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He's sitting there, he's engaging in conversations with people, and he was brutally murdered in front of his wife and children. I'm not a sanctimonious guy. I dressed up as a dead health care CEO on Netflix. I'm not someone who is out there being a purveyor of good taste. But I just don't understand how after witnessing that murder, you could be gleefully celebrating this attack. I think you're at a very bad place spiritually, you know, in your life if you're celebrating the murder of a person like that. I mean, again, this wasn't, you know, a lot of what I do on the. On the program, we make fun of the news, we make fun of what's happening. A lot of it's dark comedy. So I don't go out there and police people's reactions or tell them what to say, but if that's the first reaction you have to that video is to celebrate this, or, I mean, you. You can't be doing great. You can't be doing great if you, you know, if you're celebrating the murder of this man, I don't think you're at a good place in. In your life. And, you know, I. Like I said, I saw the video. I watched it one time. I would not rewatch it. I found it to be. I didn't know what I was watching. I was on a plane to Austin with Louis, actually, and he was. He was doing shows down there, and I saw this video, and I was like. It was maybe the worst thing I have ever seen. You know, when I. When I picked up my phone, it was unbelievable. And a lot of people I know, you know, people that I'm, you know, in their orbit comedically or for whatever reason were. You know, I understand people trying to be funny about terrible things. I understand failed attempts at making things funny. I've had them myself. I get it. But the. Some people, the. The. The joy, the glee, the delight in the. In. In. In this man's assassination. Again, I. I don't. I don't understand how you can look at his wife who's collapsing in front of his casket, who's crying, where the children are asking where their father is. I. I cannot get to that place where I can understand enjoying that. And it scares me that there's a lot of people that are there and people that I'm. That I kind of, you know, kind of somewhat know, not close friends, but, like, people that I am aware of and, you know, kind of, you know, have worked with and know from the life that I've lived. Like, I had disagreements with Charlie Kirk, some substantive ones. I have disagreements with most people. I don't. You do not have to agree with someone to not enjoy their murder. This is something that should be obvious. You don't have to agree with someone to. To not delight in their murder. This guy's life was ended. His family was shattered. This is a. This is. It's inhumane. And I understand that this is what's going to happen inevitably to people as the country drifts into this kind of schizophrenic fever dream where nothing is real and people are, you know, living online and they're radicalized and everyone's an enemy and everybody's dehumanizing them, you know, and everybody feels, for whatever reason, that this type of thing is. Is justified, and it's only. It's a. It's a terrible omen for the future of America. If people think that a guy who's willing to sit at a campus and engage in debate with students should be assassinated, I can't understand that. That's not something that I'm open to understanding. I think it's a. It's. It's a pathology. I don't think it's a political point of view. When someone's head is Blown off in front of their children. And for someone to say, oh good, it's not a political point of view, that's kind of a deeply destructive pathology. And I don't think that, you know, I understand again, people trying to make a horrible situation funny and failing and saying, doing things that are in bad taste. I've done them myself. I get it. That's not really what I'm talking about here. That's not what I saw that was the most disturbing. What I saw that was the most disturbing was the complete delight and joy in seeing someone cut down like that. In for. I don't agree with a lot of the people that run the state that I'm sitting in right now is California. I feel they've been incredibly destructive to my living in, in, in the sense that like, I think they've ruined large swaths of the most beautiful state in the union. I think their policies have driven business out of the state. They've, they've increased crime. And I agree with their policies on some things, right? Like I'm, I'm pro choice, I'm pro gay marriage. I'm pro, you know, on, on, on a lot of the social issues. I, I have kind of a libertarian view. So like states like New York and California, I'll agree with them on certain things and then on other things, you know, I don't agree with them. Right. I don't, I don't agree with like, you know, like, like pick a gender day in, in, in, in preschool or whatever's happening. Like, obviously there's, there's things that I don't agree with at all. And I would never want any of the people that I disagree with to die. I would never want any of the people who I politically disagree with on any issue to be shot in front of their children. You know, I, I don't understand. I think you're at a place in your life. If you're enjoying that, you're at a very bad place in your life. You're not at a good place in your life. I mean, that's all I can say. I cannot, I don't know many well adjusted, happy people with their own children, their own partner, wife, whatever girlfriend, boyfriend, a dog you like. I mean anything, anything that you love or care about. I can't imagine someone with that type of life seeing that guy's body tense up and then, and slump down, watching the last moments of his life and gleefully celebrating it. It, it just to me is, I, I, I don't understand. I can't I was looking at some of these things, kind of shocked. And. And I'm. I'm again, I'm not a sanctimonious guy. I'm not a guy that, like. I'm not a guy that, like, is offended by much. I'm almost offended by almost nothing. Not nothing, but when you're a person who's done comedy for years and you've been in this fucking world for years on the Internet, you can't really be, you know, sensitive. It doesn't work. It's not, you know, it's a. It's a. It's a. It would be the death knell for whatever you wanted to do in any type of public life if you were sensitive or if you internalize everything or took everything to heart. I mean, that being said, when you see somebody, you know, treating this like it's Christmas or, you know, you know, some of the reactions I've seen are. Are from people that are deeply, deeply, deeply, I guess, depressed or they've become. They feel hopeless or helpless, and they're reacting in a kind of. In a. In a. In a. In a state of rage, and they're not. And in that, they're denying their humanity and they're not thinking about things like a human being. I understand not liking someone. I understand thinking their policies make your life harder. I understand having fundamental disagreements with people, fundamental disagreements, by the way, not like little things. I understand that there's. There's. There's people in my life I have fundamental disagreements with, on major issues, big issues, and I still remain friends with them because I believe that humanity is incredibly important, you know, and that people respect the. The fact that people are human beings that come from different places, have different belief systems, have different fates, have different ways of doing things. And, you know, when. When. And Charlie Crook was not a crazy extremist. He made inflammatory statements. A lot of people make inflammatory statements. But if you listen to the context and a lot of what he said, the guy was not like a psychopath. He had a definite belief system that, you know, he sat down and talked with people about. I don't. If you're for the assassination of that person, I can't quite get into your head. I said this in 2020 when people were talking about the need for violence, not only protests, violence. And I said, this goes to a terrible place. If you stop having conversations, if you stop debating people, if you stop listening to people, or if you stop. You know, America doesn't have to be any one thing. That's why there's 50 states. And people that live in San Francisco don't necessarily have to agree with people who live in Maryland or people who live in Texas or people who live in wyoming. There are 50 state legislatures, 50 governors. You know, there's a reason. And different states need different things, value different things, whatever. You know, I just can't see the value in celebrating someone's death. I mean, whenever there's a weapon, number one, everybody uses it. So anybody celebrating this, it will come for you. It will come for someone on your side eventually. I don't understand, but I don't think people are thinking about that. I think it's the raw, visceral feeling that someone that they viewed negatively's life was cut short and they're enjoying that. And it really is. It's fucked up. The interview we're doing is actually really disturbing. It's one of the more disturbing ones that I've done. And it's a viral article that is going viral after this. And it's trying to. Again, it doesn't suggest that Charlie Kirk was murdered by Israel, but this article, which is going viral is a. Is a disturbing portrait of a lot of the pressures that not only Charlie, but other people were under. And another thing I just want to say, and before I go, because I know it's not like, I mean, if. If I had a dispute with doordash and Cash Patel was investigating it, would I get. Would I get the credit? Would I get the doordash credit? If Cash Patel was tasked with an investigation, would I get the doordash credit or would I not? I imagine I would not. I imagine if there was a discrepancy on a doordash order, the head of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Cash Patel, would not be able to secure my credit of $11.90. What is this guy doing? I mean, this. The guy that did this to Charlie's. His parents turned him in. I mean, what is. What could Cash Patel run? This is kind of an interesting question. What. What organization could Cash Patel run? Credibly, I don't know. 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You wrote it with your wife, Anya Parampil about, you know, obviously this horrific event that happened in Utah and you were describing, you know, firsthand accounts of things that Charlie had told his close friends in the weeks leading up to his death. And a lot of it concerned the pressure that was being put on him by Israeli billionaires for questioning. Some of the things happening in Gaza and then as well some of the new anti Semitism laws. And how did you put together this story? I mean, I know you don't ask a journalist to review to reveal their sources, but how exactly do you compile this piece?