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I think Sam Altman's a criminal. I think a lot of the OpenAI is fake. I think a lot of it is just overblown. And a lot of people are basically freaking out prematurely. I'm not saying that they're, they shouldn't be freaking out. You should freak out. You should freak out a little bit. But I don't think any of that's happening tomorrow. But where am I going to do this show from to be safe from like hordes of middle management, white collar panera eating zombies? Because that's what's coming. You're going to watch like dental hygienists, like, I guess, you know, like, like, like the people at the dentist office. That woman that schedules you, she's going to be on the street now with her kids and her husband. And then the guy who works as an accountant, he's on the street and then the consultants are on the street. The 12 month deadline is AI about to wipe out white collar jobs. And this is, I believe this is a India, but this is the same, you know, where all of these articles are kind of the same and they're all like, they're giving these crazy timelines. Microsoft AI Chief gives it 18 months for all white collar work to be automated by AI. So white collar people in the street trying to kill you, addicted to drugs, losing their home, living in shanty towns, starting fires for warmth Skin diseases, scabs picking at scabs, flesh rotting. You know what I mean? That's what's coming. White collar workers are getting nervous, with good reason. Sure, 98% of college graduates who want a job still have one and wages are ticking up. Sure, some companies that cite the labor saving, efficiency, promoting effects of ChatGPT and Claude as they let employees go are just AI washing, talking about algorithms to distract from poor managerial decisions. But the labor market for office workers is beginning to shift. Americans with a bachelor's degree account for a quarter of the unemployed, a record. Here's what this is going to be, folks. This is the revenge of the blue collar trade workers. This is a reversal of the class system in America. Plumbers, electricians, union people, people that work with their hands, people that build things. They are going to be, they're going to fare better in this market than a lot of the white collar people. And we should fear the white collar people. We should fear them. I'm telling you that if the white collar workers get displaced, things are going to go nuts. Things are going to go fucking nuts. You know, I mean, it's true. These people are going to. God only knows what they do if they cannot live that life, that white collar life where they have like, you know, a salad with goat cheese and a glass of white wine. If you take that away from them, we're going to have a real revolution and a real problem. So I don't know what's going to happen. Hopefully, hopefully this isn't happening in. In 12 months. Occupations susceptible to AI automation have seen sharp spikes in joblessness. Businesses really are shrinking payroll and cutting costs as they deploy. In recent weeks. Baker McKenzie, a white shoe law firm, axed 700 employees. Salesforce sacked hundreds of workers. And the auditing firm KPMG negotiated lower fees with its own auditor. To CNBC reporters with no engineering experience, Vibe coded a clone of Monday.com's workflow management platform in less than an hour. You know what's also going out of business? Well, the headhunters. Remember that all the headhunters go on the monster.com or whatever and get a job. We're going to help you find a job. I'll tell you right now. You gotta find something for these people to do. There's some of the most annoying people in our society. There are some of the most entitled and annoying people in our society. They are. I mean, I'm just. They're not even gonna make good homeless people, you know, and I know that's controversial, but some People are good. They make good homeless people. They know how to do it. They adapt to it quickly. They have the kind of physicality for it. They have the mental, you know, the stamina for it. I don't like it, but every now and then you'll see a homeless person and go, you don't have a shot. You're fud. But then certain homeless people, they're hardened, they're in it and it's who they are. And these white collar fox are not going to be able to handle it. These are petty, annoying, and yes, many of them are useless. Much of, and I'm not defending AI here because I think it's a big problem. But most of these people don't do anything for a living and are useless. A lot of jobs are fake, but people still have to do them. They still have to pull their car into an office in Phoenix, Arizona, get out in the blistering heat, walk inside and do something with their meaningless life. If you don't give people something to do. Which is why I'm a huge fan of office work. I'm a big fan of menial tasks. I'm a big fan of like pretend work. And that's what all these people are doing. I did an episode a while ago where I defended the office life, the life that millennials bemoan because it's not exciting enough and it doesn't inspire them. That pointless life of shuffling around an office, reading reports, making recommendations. That completely useless life is under threat in a way like it's never been before. It's under attack. It's under attack. And if you don't find something for these people to do, we're going to have a major problem. People need to think they're do. No one's really doing anything for the most part. A lot of people aren't. But they need to think they're doing something because if they, if they, if they don't have some kind of purpose. And again, we're not talking about the Fellowship of the Ring here in terms of purpose. They don't need to go to Mordor to, you know, throw the thing into volcano or to Mount Doom. We're just talking about going to a strip mall in Minneapolis and sitting in a debt collection office and threatening poor people. Someone needs to go to a debt collection office in Minneapolis and threaten poor people and call them and tell them that they have to make a minimum payment. They have to do it on the phone right now. Do it on the phone right now. That has to still be a Job, that has to still be a job. Telemarketing call centers have to still be a job. People have to be able to walk into buildings, pick up a phone, call other people in this country, elderly people, drunk people, confused people, and swindle them out of retirement. It's the literally our entire economy. I don't know what you think's going to happen when you get rid of that. Somebody's got to be able to sit there with a fucking, a fucking five hour energy and a lead sheet that looks like this of names and they got to call all of those people and they got to try to take them, try to get them to take a reverse mortgage out on their house. If you destroy white collar work, you're going to have all of these people in the street. Maybe algorithm driven changes will happen slowly, giving workers plenty of time to adjust. Maybe white collar types have 12 to 18 months left. Maybe the AI related job carnage will be contained to a sliver of the economy. Maybe we should be more worried about a stock market bubble than an AI driven labor revolution. I don't think anyone knows what will happen or even what is happening now. AI technology is changing at an exponential pace and changing the workforce in a thousand hard to parse ways. And the people that are making the AI, the people that are really enthused about this stuff are very happy to see the entire world destroyed. I mean, it's true. It's one of the only products that I've ever seen a mass marketing campaign for that they will tell you, the people that are making the product will tell you they're going to destroy the world. And they say it very calmly and they're like, you know, Sam Altman's like, well, I think that we should all keep in mind that before the complete and total destruction of the world, we're going to have a real increase in productivity. I've never seen a product like this. This would have been like if McDonald's in the 90s was like, we're giving you cancer. You're all getting cancer. No one, you got to bury the lead a little bit here. Get up. Sam Altman, talking about AI and a complete destruction of the labor force. They will straight up tell you and, and you know, props to them. They're not hiding it. They're going, yeah. I mean they go, there's no way around it. There's no way around it. Where we, everyone that has a job and a purpose right now and money has to figure out some other way to live. We got to figure out Another way for them to live it. Just whatever your life is where you have a job and you have money from that job, that's not going to work anymore. That's not gonna work anymore. So, you know, if. If you need stuff like that to feel, and they'll even say stuff like this, they'll be like, if you need a job and money to feel good about yourself, we got a real problem. We got a real problem coming if you need a job and money to feel good about yourself. Because that's not part of. We're gonna all. We're all gonna be, you know. Yeah. So here's Sam Altman, who's defending AI's energy talk because, you know, all these AI data centers use tons of energy and. And because replacing humanity actually is. You need a lot of energy to replace the population. But Sam Altman, who's the CEO of OpenAI, downplayed concerns about how much water data centers require at an AI summit in India. See if you can get this video up where Sam basically goes. It takes a lot to train a human being. It's a lot of energy. You got to raise them and send them to school, and you got to buy them stupid birthday cakes and put birthday candles on the cake. You got to teach them how to ride a bike. And then they're going to want to go to promote. Then you're gonna have to talk to them about how to be a good person. And maybe you have to go to college. You visit them at college, you drop them off at college, your wife cries. It's a whole thing. The kid calls you from college and tells you about a girl that he wants to bring home over the holidays. It's a. Why do we need to do all that whole process called life? Let's eliminate it. Let's get rid of it. We don't need it. Why would we need it? Here it is. Sam Altman, a friend of the show Creepy Sith Lord Sam Altman. I hate that a lot of these people are gay, by the way. And it just. It bothers me because as a gay person, I go, well, this isn't. This doesn't make me look great. Although me and Sam Altman don't really have tons in common. Here is Sam Altman talking about training a human being, which is. Which is called life, by the way. We can kind of start to think about eliminating. If we start to think about how to eliminate the process by which we instill character and. And skills and help people realize their talent. And if we get rid of that process and we just put a bunch of AI data centers in the middle of the desert and soak up the world's energy. We can end life on Earth very quickly. Sam Altman One of the things that is always unfair in this comparison is people talk about how much energy it takes to train an AI model relative to how much it costs a human to do one Inference query. But it also takes a lot of energy to train a human.