Ep. 408 - ANTIFA Network Hunt Underway, Media & Democrats Sprint to Backpedal

Summary

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The Tony Kennett Cast – Ep. 408: ANTIFA Network Hunt Underway, Media & Democrats Sprint to Backpedal

Podcast: The Tony Kennett Cast
Date: September 17, 2025
Host: Tony Kennett (The Daily Signal)
Notable Guests:

• Rob Bluey (President, The Daily Signal)
• Rep. John James (R-MI 10th District)

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Main Theme

In this episode, Tony Kennett dissects the rapidly evolving fallout from the assassination of Charlie Kirk, a high-profile conservative commentator, focusing on the shifting narratives in legacy media, Democrats’ rhetorical backpedaling, and the growing investigation into potential Antifa networks. The episode is marked by sharp commentary, marked skepticism toward mainstream media responses, and insider reporting on both law enforcement and Congressional action following the tragedy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Media & Political Backpedaling

Tony opens by calling out the immediate judgment from legacy media and Democratic officials, who initially tied the murder to right-wing extremism based solely on the suspect’s appearance and presumed background.

• Highlight:
  “Members of the House, they are backpedaling. Members of the Senate are either backpedaling or whatever Maisie Hirono does. God knows it's not pull ups.” (00:34)

• The shooter was eventually revealed to be linked to Antifa and left-wing activism, contradicting initial speculation.

• Kennett mocks the criminologist on MSNBC for her inability to assign a clear motive, criticizing the media’s pivot to ambiguity when the left-wing connection surfaced.

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2. Details of the Charlie Kirk Assassination & Suspect Motive

Kennett recounts official statements and text evidence confirming the assassin’s left-wing ideology and personal grievances with Kirk.

• Quote & Context:
  “In one text message, Tyler Robinson, the assassin, sent to his roommate... ‘I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out.’” (04:07)
• The shooter’s correspondence with his transitioning roommate revealed forethought and a desire to conceal his involvement, though ultimately mistakes—like DNA left on the rifle—unraveled his plan (07:42).
• Kennett draws attention to the Antifa phrasing inscribed on the bullet casings, such as “Hey, fascist—catch,” as direct clues to the shooter’s political leanings.

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3. Media’s Handling of the Shooter’s Identity & Relationships

ABC News and others are criticized for their sensational focus on the personal, even romantic, aspects of the suspect rather than the act’s political and criminal implications.

• Notable Moment:
  ABC’s reporter calls the murder texts “very touching ... a very intimate portrait.” (11:01)
• Kennett’s retort:
  “Oh man, he had a romantic life. I mean, hey, there are all these photos with Hitler hanging out with Eva Braun. So therefore, he must have been a really nice guy.” (11:35)

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4. Democratic Rhetoric and Congressional Response

Kennett highlights Democrats’ difficulties distancing themselves from inflammatory rhetoric and their hesitancy to take questions about ties between their language and real-world violence.

• Aguilar’s Exchange:
  Rep. Aguilar tries to deny that Democrats call Republicans fascists and Nazis, only to be confronted with direct clips to the contrary (17:23).
  • “What they are trying to DO is Institute Nazism 2 in the United States.” – Rep. Jasmine Crockett (17:23)
• Democrats later deflect, blaming “gun culture” or shifting the focus:
  “If you are too stupid to talk about firearms, you shouldn't talk about firearms.” (19:34)

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5. Senate Hearings & FBI Standards

Discussion of physical standards for FBI recruits leads to satire of Sen. Hirono’s performance and her inadvertent admission of biological differences between men and women.

• Memorable Exchange:
  “That you are now requiring applicants to be able to do a certain kind of pull ups which a lot of women cannot because of physiological differences.” – Sen. Maisie Hirono (22:04)

Kennett derides attempts to lower standards for political reasons and ties this to broader complaints about institutional competence.

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6. Congressional Speculation and Legislative Proposals (w/ Rob Bluey)

Rob Bluey (30:01) joins to give a detailed rundown of proposed Congressional action in light of the assassination:

• Formation of a select committee (Rep. Chip Roy spearheading) to examine root causes of political violence, including open-borders groups and Soros-funded prosecutors.
• Legislative priorities include restricting foreign propaganda (Charlie Kirk Act, Sen. Mike Lee).
• The challenge of passing legislation with such a narrow GOP majority.
• Tension between demands for accountability (especially targeting Rep. Ilhan Omar’s comments) and the political risk-averse nature of the current Congress (36:00).

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7. Cancel Culture vs. Celebrating Violence

Kennett and Bluey address media attempts to equate calls for cancellation based on violence-celebrating comments with past "cancel culture" controversies over ideological or speech issues.

• Kennett:
  “I was dragged into our human resources office in Indianapolis because I tweeted and I quote, rest in peace, Rush Limbaugh, end quote.” (34:45)
• But today, people cheer an assassination and demand more violence—a seriousness that gets downplayed by certain media personalities.

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8. Foreign Infiltration, Propaganda, and Campus Radicalization (w/ Rep. John James)

Rep. John James (44:41) discusses legislative focus in the House:

• Protecting youth from ideological poisoning and radicalization via social media, particularly from foreign state actors (China, Russia).
• Targeting foreign funding of campus protest movements and requiring transparency (Disclosed Gift Act).
  • “...looking at everything that's poisoning the minds of our youth, because before someone commits a heinous act, their minds have been poisoned.” – Rep. John James (48:00)
• Commitment to strengthening parental protections and safeguarding domestic institutions.

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9. Ongoing Investigations & The Role of Social Platforms

Kennett goes in-depth on the FBI’s investigation into broader Antifa-related networks, especially through platforms like Discord (64:12):

• FBI Director Cash Patel confirms they are “reaching out to the family and community” and investigating Discord server participants—potentially up to 20 additional users.

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10. Listener Questions & Broader Legal Ramifications

In an extended Q&A (late in episode), Kennett discusses:

• The impact of reading suspect texts on-air re: jury bias, generally siding with transparency.
• Legal distinctions between protected speech and illegal acts such as criminal swatting:
  “Swatting is the illegal act in which you call a law enforcement agency and...The First Amendment, the protection of free speech, does not mean you can just get out there and say whatever you want...” (65:04)

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11. Bonus: Media & Archaeology Conspiracies

Kennett briefly digresses to debunk a viral claim that an archaeological dig in Jerusalem is evidence of a pro-Israel plot, explaining instead its real historical and scientific significance.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Media and Political Motive:
  “It only took them five days to come to that conclusion, ladies and gentlemen.” (12:29)
• On Backpedaling:
  “There are very few press conferences that you are seeing that Democrat officials in the House and the Senate are accepting right now because it looks really, really, really bad for them.” (15:40)
• On Firearms Rhetoric:
  “If you are too stupid to talk about firearms, you shouldn't talk about firearms” (19:34)
• On Standards:
  “Thank God for Maisie Hirono and the people in Hawaii who had their heads so far up their rear ends they must have clicked the wrong person on the ballot and they continue to send her to the Senate for our entertainment.” (23:18)
• On Discord as a New Counter-Terrorism Front:
  “An entire government was just overthrown by teenagers and kids in their early twenties through Discord. ... This is the new age of countering terrorism.” (65:04)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Media & Political Backpedaling: 00:34–04:07
• Shooter’s Motive and Evidence: 04:07–07:42
• Media Reaction to Suspect’s Identity: 11:01–14:39
• Democrats Caught Backpedaling: 15:40–19:34
• Senate Hearings, FBI Standards: 21:13–23:18
• Rob Bluey on Congressional Response: 30:01–37:03
• Rep. John James on House Actions: 44:41–54:46
• FBI Investigation, Discord Networks: 64:12–65:04
• Listener Q&A, Speech vs. Crime: 65:04–end

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Podcast Tone & Style

The episode is marked by Tony Kennett’s trademark irreverent, regional populist style—laced with sarcasm, pop culture riffs, and pointed barbs against political opponents. The language is direct, colloquial, and unfiltered, particularly during rants and live banter.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode offers a thorough, unvarnished look at the intersection of political violence, media bias, and law enforcement in today’s America. Tony Kennett pulls no punches as he roasts media missteps, exposes political opportunism, and gives audience members both the breaking details and ideological context behind the latest national crisis. With insights from lawmakers and journalists, as well as listener engagement and legal analysis, this is a comprehensive account for anyone seeking the unfiltered story—minus the establishment spin.

Transcript

[Tony Kennett]

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[ABC News Reporter]

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[Rob Bluey]

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[Rob Bluey]

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[Vaughn Hillier]

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[Tony Kennett]

Let's get down to business. You're listening to the Tony Kennett cast on 93WYPCYTV here on the Daily Signal. Good evening and welcome to the Tony Kennett cast here on the Daily Signal. Nationally syndicated, first on 93 WIBC. The word of the day is backpedaling. There is backpedaling aplenty everywhere from the legacy media, the journalists and the network outlets, the big fantastic newspapers and magazines that have preached their wisdom to you for such a long time. They're backpedaling. Members of the House, they are backpedaling. Members of the Senate are either backpedaling or whatever Maisie Hirono does. God knows it's not pull ups. We're going to talk about those a little bit here in just a bit. So as a quick reminder regarding the Charlie Kirk assassination in Utah, originally the legacy media and Democrat officials ran out, sprinted out, booked it as soon as there was a photo of the suspect. They suggested that this guy was likely right wing because he was a white guy. Then after photoshopping a bunch of MAGA stuff on his shirts in photos, many on the left suggested that well he had to be a right wing guy because he grew up in a Mormon family. Ah, very, very wise analys there. And then after his Christian conservative ish dad turned him in and then it found out some other information about the shooter including like the cartridge casings reading nice bulge UWU and hey, fascist catch. Well then it was, well we really, you know, don't we just, we don't even know the motor of the shooter. It's, it's a mystery transpired Here these last 72 hours.

[Vaughn Hillier]

Vaughn Hillier, thank you everyone. Please stay close. And joining us now is criminologist Casey Jordan. Casey, so much happening so quickly here this morning. We're learning as well from our own reporting that there's no indication of a prior criminal record. This is according to searches of state, national public records associated with the person Tyler Robinson. And his date of birth, by the.

[Tony Kennett]

Way, I do want to point out. Pay attention to how she says they did all of this searching on any individual named Tyler Robinson and all of these state and federal databases, because in a minute, that's going to become very useful. But the dork who is a clown just missing the nose in the wig to the right, this criminologist, who I can only assume went to Helen Keller's school for site investigation. Her analysis of these cartridges is something to behold.

[Vaughn Hillier]

One of the most striking details that we learned from this press conference were again, about those bullet casings and the inscriptions. Hey, fascist. The words, Bella Chow. The words, if you read this, you are gay. What do you see as the significance or the. What he. What the message is that he's trying to communicate here?

[Tony Kennett]

Really?

[Vaughn Hillier]

I would need to actually see these words in the way that they are on the bullet casings and the gun to make a proper interpretation.

[Tony Kennett]

Yes. Because if they're written in cursive or Comic Sans, that's really going to determine whether or not this was leaning to the left or the right. Yes. Thank you very much, Columbo. I'm so excited that you're here to.

[Vaughn Hillier]

Tell us these things, but just knowing what those words are, I'm kind of overwhelmed with how immature it all sounds and that there is no really chronic theme. I think Brandi really nailed it. You have to make of it what you want.

[Tony Kennett]

Oh, wow. There's no steam. No one had any idea. We don't know the motive of the shooter. We heard from the New York Times and from multiple outlets all over the country. Well, then it was okay. So, yeah, the. The shooter was the gay boyfriend of a dude transitioning into a fake woman. But, well, hey, the. The trans person is. Is a really great guy. They're. They're, well, really great woman guy. Okay. They don't really know what to call him. He's cooperating with police. That was the narrative for about five and a half hours yesterday. Well, now we know a lot more, both from the press conference of the county attorney in Utah, as well as a couple of released messages. So in one text message, Tyler Robinson, the assassin, sent to his roommate, admitting his guilt. Robinson said of Kirk, and I quote, I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out. End quote. Did the transgender person then reach out to police and say, hey, this is what happened. You guys need. This is a dangerous thing? No, of course not. Now, I do want to play. This is what the county attorney said after he read A series of charges. So just to remind you, right after the Kirk assassination on the 12th, we have that criminologist from MSNBC and all the other people saying, we don't know the motive. There's no way to know the motive. Now this from the county attorney in Utah.

[County Attorney]

This afternoon, police interviewed Robinson's roommate, a biological male who has was involved in a romantic relationship with Robinson. The roommate told police that the roommate received messages from Robinson about the shooting. And he did provide those messages to police. On September 10, 2025, the roommate received a text message from Robinson which said, drop what you're doing. Look under my keyboard. The roommate looked under the keyboard and found a note that stated, I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kurt, and I'm going to take it. Police found a photograph of this note. The following exchange, text exchange then took place. After reading the note, the roommate responded. What? You're joking, right? Robinson, I am still okay, my love, but I'm stuck in Orem for a little while longer yet. Shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I gotta grab my rifle. Still, to be honest, I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. I am sorry to involve. You weren't the one who did it, right? Robinson I am. I'm sorry. I thought they caught the person. Robinson. No. They grabbed some crazy old dude, then interrogated someone in similar clothing. I had planned to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after, but most of that side of town got locked down. It's quiet, almost enough to get out, but there's one vehicle. Lingering roommate. Why? Robinson? Why did I do it? Roommate? Yeah. Robinson. I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out. If I am able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence.

[Tony Kennett]

Okay, so first of all, no, there was DNA that was found on the rooftop. So by the way, for all of the conspiracy theorists already who are coming out and saying, well, it couldn't possibly be this guy, it's just a kid. The DNA has been found on the roof. The DNA has been found with the rifle. Everything lines up precisely, including the ownership of the rifle was from the shooter's grandfather, by the way, the grandfather who then noticed on the news that the rifle was being talked about and was calling the shooter, who wasn't answering. We found out from texts later provided by Andy. No, Robinson said, quote, I'm wishing I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as I got to my vehicle. I'm worried what my old man would do if I didn't bring back Grandpa's rifle. I don't even know if it had a serial number, but it wouldn't trace to me. That's not how that works. I worry about prints. I had to leave it in a bush where I changed outfits. Didn't have the ability or time to bring it with. I might have to abandon it and hope they don't find prints. How the bleep will I explain losing it to my old man? Only thing I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel which by the way was covered in his DNA. So I will point out there was a. There was a former FBI official who I co paneled with before the end of last week who said one of the most true things I've ever heard. Do you think this is a professional assassin? He said no. And they said, well then why did he try to put as much planning into it as he had after the FBI official had said, well, he didn't have a point of egress. He didn't have a car ready, he didn't have a place to put the gun, he didn't have the tools necessary to keep his DNA out of the equation. All of these things he missed. A proper entry point and exit point off of the roof. Things that a professional might have had to get away quickly. I15 was 15 minutes away from campus. If this was planned out, he could have been in a car halfway to Canada before they even noticed that a vehicle had gotten onto the interstate by pulling like traffic cam footage. He didn't have any of this though. However, what we do have now is the confirmed motive of the shooter. Now I say confirmed motive. Every one of you who has a functioning brain already knew clearly what the motive of the shooter was. And all of these left wing journalists and influencers and news streamers and media legacy journalists who told you there was no way of knowing. After all they were video game references and online meme culture. Guess what? It turns out that hey Fascist Catch comes from a guy who is antifa. The left wing belief that they're fighting fascism by committing acts of terrorism. Which again, we have documented cases of antifa cells training individuals to assault law enforcement and individuals they don't like. This is on the record. These individuals are consistently arrested and charged with terrorism. Radio crew, we have to let you guys go to commercial break. We'll be back soon. We're going to continue on the live stream. It's the Tony Kennett cast. All right, so now that this information has come out, we have some really weird backpedaling going on. So first of all, from ABC News, their reporter decided to, like, talk about how sweet the text messages about murdering an innocent man. How sweet the messages were between this dude and his gay lover. This is from, from ABC News, we.

[ABC News Reporter]

Have seen an alleged murder with such specific text messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden, how it was placed, what was on it. But also, it was very touching in a way that I think many of us didn't expect. A very intimate portrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate who was transitioning, calling him my love and I want to protect you, my love. So it was this duality of someone who the attorney said not only jeopardized the life of Charlie Kirk.

[Tony Kennett]

And, oh, there's this duality, oh, between the killer and, oh, man, he had a romantic life. I mean, hey, there's all these photos with Hitler hanging out with Eva Braun. So therefore, he must have been a really nice guy. And after all, you know, Stalin saying that when his wife died, the rest of his soul died with him. That means that he used to just be kindly old Uncle Joe. You don't have to be stupid, but ABC makes it a point to hire you if your IQ was below triple digits. Just making that clear. So additionally, and I do want to point out the producer or reporter or analyst or whatever he is on ABC later doubled down. I don't know why you would need to double down on your weird fan fiction love drama of the assassin and his gay, transgender, furry lover, but here you go. It is.

[ABC News Reporter]

It's heartbreaking on so many levels, Kyra. Obviously, Charlie Kirk was murdered brutally in front of a crowd of thousands of.

[Tony Kennett]

People who only took them five days to come to that conclusion, ladies and gentlemen. It only took them five days to come to that point, watched him being.

[ABC News Reporter]

Shot through the neck and then essentially bleed out in front of him. And I think one of the things that the attorney here made a very fine point about is that a lot of these charges, seven charges, were aggravated because children were present. Children witnessed this, children were put in harm's way.

[Tony Kennett]

By the way, I will note it that this is also one of the first times ABC has ever really cared if crimes were happening in front of children. I don't seem to remember ABC throwing a fit about naked men being in front of children at certain parades and events. You know, again, sexual and violent crimes in the state of Utah are supposed to be kept away, especially from the innocence of children. That is why there Are additional statutes in state law. By the way, for those of you out there who are like mad this isn't charged in federal court, you should be. I am one of these who are thankful that Utah is. Is the precedent taking precedence in this case because the federal law doesn't have special considerations in some aspects where, oh, you committed the crime in front of a child.

[ABC News Reporter]

And that was something that obviously is aggravating here. And that's one of the reasons that the suspect, in addition to the alleged murder being political in nature, is facing the death penalty. They're going for the death penalty. And on the other hand, there is this duality of a very portrait of a very human person, a very human experience from this entire human experience.

[Tony Kennett]

Guy. I mean, come on. Who hasn't had gay sex and fetishized about assassinating people? Haven't we all? Family.

[ABC News Reporter]

As you mentioned it, the mother essentially discovered that it was her son who had done this. The kid who had got a 34 out of 36 on the acts, who had a 4.

[Tony Kennett]

He was so educated. He was so educated. He was going to be a doctor, a lawyer. He was going to cure cancer. He just wanted to kill some people.

[ABC News Reporter]

First 4.0 who got a full ride to college here, that that kid was the one who allegedly perpetrated. She saw those pictures and said identified him essentially. And then those text messages and I don't think I've ever experienced a press conference in which we've read text mess that are a so fulsome, so robust.

[Tony Kennett]

So apparently so fulsome, so robust, so full of exigent love it. It really quenches the soul of Shakespearean fervor. Can dude, can you take a cold shower before you come back on camera and grow up. We are talking about the murder of a father and husband for political means and you're here talking about how excited you are about his gay relationship. We got to pick the radio crew back from commercial. Don't go anywhere. It's the Tony Kenneth cast looking for.

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[Tony Kennett]

The Tony Kennett cast on 93 WIBC. The backpedaling, it's getting worse. And that comes in the form of Representative Aguilar over on the Democrat side of the aisle. There are very few press conferences that you are seeing that Democrat officials in the House and the Senate are accepting right now because it looks really, really, really bad for them. After a lot of them came out and said, well, I mean, well, Charlie Kirk wasn't as probably a right winger. And then also, well, you know, probably deserved it, like Ilhan Omar indicated. Representative Aguilar gets up, though, and suggests that, well, you know, I'm. You're talking about rhetoric and calling Republicans Nazis fear. Who are you accusing of. Of people that are. That are calling Republicans Nazis. And, well, here's his response and question and answer, the whole. The whole shebang. Thank you, Congressman. Democrats have come under criticism for labeling Republicans as fascists and Nazis following the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Some arguing that such inflammatory rhetoric is spreading political violence. Where do you stand on this issue? For example, should Democrats such as Jasmine Crockett stop referring to the president as a wannabe Hitler? What other Democrats. You said fascists. And. And what. What was your common. But you're not attributing it to any Democrat or any member of the Democratic caucus. I'm just trying to understand the question. Jasmine Crockett didn't say fascist and Nazis. Oh, oh, she didn't say. See, they never said. Democrats have never called Republicans fascists or Nazis. Oh, no, no, no. They're as pure as the driven. No, we don't have anything like a clip of Jasmine Crockett saying that overtly right now.

[Representative Aguilar]

What they are trying to DO is Institute Nazism 2 in the United States.

[Tony Kennett]

Nazism 2.0 in the United States, telling people that the Holocaust is getting ready to happen here in the country. I can't fathom why a mentally unstable, insane person might then act in a manner that justifies insane political violence.

[Representative Aguilar]

And guess what? It's gonna be us that's gonna be on the receiving end of all of it. So I could go on and on and on about the terrible things that are in there, but the basis of it, they're saying it has to be Christianity. And the fact is, everything has to be really Christo fascism.

[Tony Kennett]

Christo fascism. And not. There you go, man. Well, here was Jasmine Crockett backpedaling as fast as her fat little feet would go today, suggesting that, well, it doesn't matter. And it kind of actually, probably kind of secretly on the inside coded right wing. Do you think the political Violence problem on the right is worse than what it is on the left.

[Representative Aguilar]

I think it's a false comparison in the first place. And I think we should have a leader that is responsible enough to denounce political violence.

[Tony Kennett]

Oh, it's Trump's fault. Oh, yes, of course. Ah. Oh, thank you.

[Representative Aguilar]

Period. It's not about where it comes from. It's about the fact that it is happening. It is never okay. It is never okay. If it happens on the left, it is never okay. If it happens on the right, it is. And if we had someone that knew how to, how to be an adult in the room, he would say that. But when we.

[Tony Kennett]

He has said that consistently. After he was shot in Butler. That was what he said after every act of political violence in this country. He has said that on the record consistently. Of course, again, that requires, you know, a short term and a long term memory literacy, things that often escape the representative from Dallas.

[Representative Aguilar]

Look at it, please tell me who is fostering this gun culture? Right. I mean, the reality is that the average person on the left probably couldn't make a shot from 200 yards because they haven't been playing with assault rifles since they were a little kid.

[Tony Kennett]

Like, okay, first of all, it was not an assault rifle that was shot to kill Charlie Kirk. And I'm sorry, actually, I'm not sorry at all. If you are too stupid to talk about firearms, you shouldn't talk about firearms being proficient with an assault rifle, which again, there's no real definition for an assault rifle. But assuming that you're talking about a 556, you're talking about an AR platform style semiautomatic rifle, the way that those are built are not as easily translated to a hunting rifle firing. 30 06. It's not the same. It's not the same. Half of the engineering problems in the 20th century post World War II were built around finding certain cartridge replacements and how US soldiers would carry them and whether or not they were fitting certain means, it doesn't Translate over number two. A 200 yard shot is just not with a hunting rifle with the, the type of optics that were on it. It's not that hard. A 3006 round, 200 yards. That's not unthinkable. It's just not people out there that are trying to claim that this was like, like this incredible archery shot through the moon. It wasn't the idea they're going to try to say, well, actually it's the rights problem because they have gun culture. Best of luck to you on that. 1. Now, we do have to keep moving here because this brings us to the roundhouse over in the Senate. FBI Director Cash Patel came to answer a few questions. And thank God in heaven Maisie Hirono was a part of the committee. Why? Because I think that Maisie Hirono is a brilliant order. No, she's a complete idiot. But she did accidentally admit that men and women are biologically different today. Here you go.

[Senator Hirono]

Move on to my. You know, you've been asking some questions about changes to your hiring standard and including college degrees and possibly the age. But you know, one question I had.

[Tony Kennett]

Is she's asking the director of the FBI. She has some questions after she fumbled her words around. So about college degrees. I'm okay with the FBI requiring college degrees for some analyst positions. Not bad. Additionally, age. Yeah, I think that bureau chiefs ought to have a certain level of age. I don't think that there should be an NCO in the army, for example, who's a 22 year old, doesn't have the experience net yet to be called Sarge. I don't think so. But alas.

[Senator Hirono]

That you are now requiring applicants to be able to do a certain kind of pull ups which a lot of women cannot because of physiological differences.

[Tony Kennett]

Requiring people applying to the FBI to be able to do a pull up that she says women cannot do.

[Senator Hirono]

You requiring these kinds of pull ups?

[FBI Director Cash Patel]

We are requiring a physical program at BFTC at Quantico because FBI agents carrying guns in the field have to chase down bad guys and do really hard work the physical fitness standards of those agents.

[Senator Hirono]

So are you requiring these signs of pull ups?

[FBI Director Cash Patel]

We are requiring everybody to pass the 1811 standards at BFTC. If you want to chase down a bad guy, excuse me, and put him in handcuffs, you better be able to do a pull up.

[Senator Hirono]

The reason I ask is that there are concerns about whether or not being able to do these kinds of harsh pull ups is really required of FBI agents.

[FBI Director Cash Patel]

Doing one pull up is not harsh. And there are always medical exemptions to that.

[Tony Kennett]

Okay. I love this. I love it so much. Thank God for Maisie Hirono and the people in Hawaii who had their heads so far up their rear ends they must have clicked the wrong person on the ballot and they continue to send her to the Senate for our entertainment. Thank you to the grand people of Hawaii for putting Bobo the Clown's lesser intelligent child in front of the nation for yux. So I do enjoy the idea that if the military or a federal law enforcement agency requires pull ups and people can't do them then the problem is the pull ups instead of perhaps the expectations of the individuals. This is the entire problem with the left. They are aggravated, they are furious that there are standards in society that are there for a reason. And so instead of saying maybe only individuals that meet certain standards should be able to perform tasks that require certain standards, they go, well, clearly the problem is the standard is really awful. And that's why you have video upon video of law enforcement officers who just so happen to be very small and skinny women or men who shouldn't be in the police academy either who are getting over handled, who are getting overwrought by these criminals that they are chasing down because they're big people and they hired Wimpy the dork in order to serve on the law enforcement for equity sake. Radio crew will send you over to commercial. We're going to get into some yelling over here on the live stream. It's the Tony Kinnit cast. Now I hate to tell you that it wasn't all just boom, smackdown, pin down excellence over there in the Senate today. Cash Patel did tee up with Adam Schiff, who it's amazing given his alleged mortgage fraud that he has the gall to say certain things, especially given the on the record lies that he has said right in front of everyone and under oath on the Russiagate collusion, for example. But here was Kash Patel and Adam Schiff yelling at each other and we.

[FBI Director Cash Patel]

Have countlessly proven you to be a liar in Russiagate in January 6th. You are the biggest fraud to ever sit in the United States Senate.

[Rob Bluey]

You are a disgrace to this institution.

[FBI Director Cash Patel]

And an utter coward.

[County Attorney]

I'm not surprised.

[Tony Kennett]

I love it so much. I do. Senate hearings are fun. There was a small couple of weeks there where I kind of hated them because I thought, man, it's just pageantry. But if you're going to have a show, then make it a season finale. I mean, I want to see chaos, a little kickboxing, the good stuff here. Cory Booker also got into a tussle. Angry eyes. The man who never poops went toe to toe with Cash Patel as well.

I don't think you're fit to him the bureau. But here's the thing, Mr. Patel, I think you're not going to be around long. I think this might be your last oversight hearing because as much as you supplicate yourself to the will of Donald Trump and not the constitution of the United States of America, that's not.

Supplicate is not the word that you want there. But I'LL put my Scrabble board away.

America. Donald Trump has shown us in his first term and in this term he is not loyal to people like you, by the way.

So he. Subordinate would be the word that he's looking for, that you are subordinate to Trump and not the Constitution. To supplicate means to beg or ask for something. So he's like, you're begging from Trump, but you're not begging from the Constitution.

Okay, he will cut you loose. This may be the last time I have a hearing with you because I don't think you're long for your job. But I'm going to tell you this. I pray for you. I pray for you that you can step up and defend your oath, defend the Constitution, and do a much better job of defending this country.

So before Patel responds, I do want to point out a producer. Nick, did you notice that this speech sounds like one that an ex is giving to the person that their former dating person is now engaged? They're going to cut you loose and they're going to spit in your eye. They don't love you. I pray for you that you see they're a really bad, awful person and that you, that you come back to me. Do you get the vibes? Not only the vibes, but the demeanor as well. The face facial motions that he's making, it just it. The pain ingratiates across his whole face weren't enough, but he's praying for cash. I, I admire, I admire the spirit. I. Here's cash.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Do you want to say yes, sir.

[FBI Director Cash Patel]

That rant of false information does not bring this country together. If you want to work on bringing this country, it's my time, not yours.

[Tony Kennett]

My God. My God. You want to talk about fighting this country, it is. I follow you on your social media posts.

I scroll your social media. I see you holding hands with Kelly. Oh my gosh.

You better try.

[FBI Director Cash Patel]

All you in this country.

[Tony Kennett]

I love that. I love it. The Senate fights are great. This happened with Blumenthal as well, the stolen valor legend himself. But just to say we'll have to cover some of that a little bit later on in the show because I think we're going to go over to Rob Bluey in a second. Now that we have gotten to the backpedaling, there is now ground to take. There is an opportunity for the House of Representatives in the Senate to get things done. And so now we actually have to do the part of the job that involves speculation what is involved, what isn't involved, and how do things actually get done instead of, well, you know, yelling on the Senate? We got to bring the radio crew back. Don't go anywhere. Tony Kenned cast is the Tony Kenneth cast on 93 WYBC. I don't like just giving you guys the speculation from here in the cornfields of Indiana. So instead we're going to speculate from the very streets of Washington, right next to the Capitol, we're going to Rob Bluey, head of the Daily Signal. That's right, my boss's boss, who makes sure that if I'm fired, it's done gently. Rob, thanks for joining us.

[Rob Bluey]

Thanks, Tony. It's good to be with you today.

[Tony Kennett]

All right. I want to hop right into this to honor everybody's time. There's a lot of speculation as to what's going to come out of the House of Representatives regarding some of the legislation from these terror events domestically, whether we're talking about the assassination of our friend Charlie Kirk, whether we're talking about the brutal murder and beyond lackluster response from Democrat officials in Charlotte of Irena Zarutska. What are we looking at at least as far as what's getting the most attention right now in the House?

[Rob Bluey]

Well, absolutely. And as you know, Tony, and as your audience knows, Speaker Mike Johnson has the narrowest of margins to work with. And so even losing one or two republic from basically his own team, his own party, makes it incredibly difficult to get anything through the US House of Representatives. One of the most immediate pieces of legislation that was introduced or ideas that was suggested in the aftermath of the assassination of Charlie Kirk was a select committee that was being led and spearheaded by Congressman Chip Roy. And what Chip Roy wants to do is examine some of the root causes that he believes led not only to this incident, but so many of the incidents across our country. This is a pretty wide, wide ranging idea and it includes everything from illegal immigration and some of the groups that have facilitated the means in which illegal immigrants have been able to operate and move throughout the country, to those George Soros funded prosecutors and, and, and the including in Charlotte, North Carolina, that have allowed criminals back on the streets. And so what, what a Congressman Roy is essentially saying is that Congress needs the subpoena power to be able to do this. Now, there are other individual legislative efforts on Capitol Hill. For instance, Mike Lee in the Senate has the Charlie Kirk act, which would involve something related to making sure that there's no foreign propaganda that's being then repurposed in the United States. And so there are a whole number of Things that I think lawmakers want to do because they understand that now is the time to channel that anger into action. And that's ultimately what they're gonna be discussing this week. And on top of that, Tony.

[Tony Kennett]

Yeah.

[Rob Bluey]

As if you didn't have enough, the clock is ticking. I mean, we're just a couple weeks away from September 30 when the government runs out of money. So they've also got to figure that out, too.

[Tony Kennett]

Ah, yes. Nothing better than the monthly the government is running out of money clock. I sure do enjoy resetting that every 30 days now. So I do want to ask, because we've heard this from Vice President J.D. vance. He's also mentioned Soros and other NGOs that have been funneling essentially taxpayer grant money from the federal government into things that may be severely putting it lightly would be unlawful. Now, there have been some emotional responses around the country. There have been legislators, there have been Cabinet officials. I know that some of the responses, at least from those like Attorney General Pam Bondi, maybe inarticulated things about hate speech and whether or not the Department of Justice was going to look at things, from what I can tell so far, there's not any new approach to interpreting the First Amendment in the Department of Justice. There's a lot of just everything is right out in front of the American people right now. It's very transparent. It's very raw. If that's a good way to describe it. What are you hearing on the hill and near 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?

[Rob Bluey]

Tony, that is a great way that you just put it. I think that you even heard the FBI Director Cash Patel tell Sean Hannity that, yeah, perhaps when he was in the heat of the moment writing things on X, that he could have worded them better and maybe would have done so differently. But he doesn't regret that he was being transparent and with the American people. And I think that, you know, this is one of the things I've heard people like Bill O'Reilly say we should judge the president and his team based on their actions rather than their words. But he's.

[Tony Kennett]

Mean tweets, Rob. Mean tweets. Come on.

[Rob Bluey]

Sometimes. Sometimes people say things and then. And then they follow up in a different manner. And I think in the case of Pam Bondi, where she's sparked a debate among conservatives who have traditionally opposed things like hate speech, she's used that terminology. And so we'll see, ultimately, if the Department of Justice decides to go down this path, or maybe there's a refined approach that she decides to take. But it's the same same thing I did my weekly hit on CNN this morning. And one of the first topics they asked me about was conservatives for years have railed against cancel culture. And now conservatives are trying to cancel all these people. And I mean, Tony, you talked about this on your show last night. There's a big difference between what conservatives were being canceled for in years past versus what we're talking about today. I mean, people are celebrating the assassination of an individual and then calling for more violence against people like you and me. In the past, at least the conservatives that I knew who were canceled, you know, held political views because maybe they didn't wanna get the COVID shot or they supported Donald Trump for president or they simply said something that misgendered an individual. Right. And so I think that there are two completely different situations. And so as we have this debate in the media and elsewhere, it's important for I think people to recognize and take a step back and that this is a completely different situation.

[Tony Kennett]

And I will say, I will say this because it's rather interesting that right now you're trying to see this reframing of what cancel culture is and isn't. Again, in 2019, 2020, I was dragged into our human resources office in Indianapolis because I tweeted and I quote, rest in peace, Rush Limbaugh, end quote. So then I had a DEI committee put over my textbook adoption process which, which, you know, I. Fantastic. Now you have individuals who are actively celebrating. Charlie Kirk, of course, we saw with the Washington Post columnist, may she enjoy the unemployment line, who just misquoted and lied about the statements. I'm sure we're going to find our way onto the House floor, the Senate floor with these kinds of comments because you know how few House representatives and senators fact check their little FedEx Kinko easel boards before they drag them onto the Senate, shout out to dastardly deeds undone, whatever his name is. Al Green, last question for you here. Ilhan Omar, I'm being told Nancy Mace is working on perhaps some committee assignment, revoking some revocations there, some censuring maybe because of comments that she's made. Do you see anything coming out of this or do you think it's going to maybe fizzle out?

[Rob Bluey]

I hope something will come out of it, but I'm not particularly optimistic. And that's because you have some weak kneed Republicans in the House who would prefer probably not to take this action. And again, it's one of those things where incumbents enjoy so many great privileges, not only when they go to stand for reelection, but also when they're serving in Washington, D.C. there isn't that level of accountability that I think should exist for some of these members of Congress. And I'm talking about if a member of Congress acts out on both sides. I mean, look at George Santos, most recently for Republicans, and the action that the House of Representatives took in his case. And so, yes, I do hope that Speaker Johnson does pursue something against her. I don't know what form that will take, if it's the Nancy Mace resolution on committees or whether it's censure. But, yes, absolutely. These are individuals who we have traditionally held up as role models in our society and leaders. They need to act that way again.

[Tony Kennett]

There you go. Rob Bouie, president of the Daily Signal. All of the shenanigans on the House floor straight from the tap. Rob, thanks for joining us.

[Rob Bluey]

Thanks, Tony.

[Tony Kennett]

Now, regarding the hate speech legislation enormity here, the attorney General's office is already walking back as quickly as possible from what Bondi said on that, that Miller podcast earlier. So to be clear here, as far as policy, hate speech is not a kind of that, that's not a thing. The idea right now that you can have federal prosecution for words that you say that are not directly and overtly calling for violence. Yeah. I mean, that you have a First Amendment right to say the words. I am glad that, that this assassination happened. And to be as gross as you want with it, you should not be prosecuted for that. However, if your employer decides they don't want someone working at their place of business who openly celebrates the murder of people, especially for political reasons, then that is the right of your employer. That is, I am in no way, shape or form going to demand that someone bake the cake. But at the same time, I also don't want the federal government to kick in the door if people don't understand the difference between this. Again, I point you to the US Constitution. Now, I am going to offer a little bit of grace here in a way that I have before for both sides of the aisle. When you come out right after an emotional moment and you say things in front of people, we have all been in a position on the camera facing side of the industry where emotions run high and you run your mouth and maybe you don't say the right thing at the right time. That's what Rob was alluding to regarding, you know, Cash Patel talking to Sean Hannity. Again, I am one of these people. However, it is very important when you are In a position that is as critical as the Attorney General of the United States, when you are the Director of the FBI, you don't have the same grace and Runway here that Trump has. Trump has been Trump for the entire time that he's been Trump. And when Trump gets out there and he says, I'm suing the New York Times because everyone knows they're going after your favorite president, me, and I'm owing for billions of dollars because they've defamed everything, everyone understands that that's Trump. And there is an actual difference. Well, you shouldn't have double standards if you don't know the difference between former entertainer and bombastic, charismatic Trump. Trump and Attorney General Pam Bondi. I don't know what to tell you. I do have different standards. Yes, I absolutely do, 100%. Because your entire life's work does, in fact determine how my opinion is going to be of the statements that you make in public. Now, objectively, does that mean that when Trump says something that I don't like, that automatically makes it a good statement? No. Does that mean when Attorney General Pam Bondi says something good or bad that that changes just because I may take it a certain way, that changes the objective reality of whether the statement was good or bad? No. We do in fact exist in an environment where the optics matter and the actual denotation, the definitional text of what is said matters. Radio crew, we got to send you over to the commercial. We're going to continue on the live stream. It's the Tony Kennett cast here on the Daily Signal. Now, right now there are a lot of people who are making the case that, that everyone or no one is honoring legacies here, there, and, and everywhere. And that I'm, I'm, I'm going to suggest before we get to kind of the next micro story here, that patience, a little bit of patience here. There is an aspect of American society right now where we want to run and go and do as soon as the energy is there. But things done poorly with lots of energy are still done poorly. Small case in point of this. Arizona had a superintendent who was very well meaning on school choice. And she ran into office and she completely screwed up everything. She ended up accidentally releasing the information of a bunch of kids and a bunch of parents and a bunch of financial information and Social Security numbers and a bunch of stuff because she rushed in. She didn't think about it. She just did it. You gotta take your time. Otherwise what you end up getting are Sean Diddy Combs situations where you Go in, you say, I'm gonna charge him with RICO and I'm gonna get him on everything. And then because Diddy's case isn't precisely fit for rico, he gets away with a lot and far too little jail time. And so when the federal government is going to act, yes, it is important that they act. Because you and I both know how many times in the last 20, 30 years we've gotten the strongly worded letter syndrome. And I have noticed that so far there is not a prosecution that has been levied at, for example, Attorney General Leticia James of New York. But at the same time, I also recognize that if you rush in with a sledgehammer to do a scalpel's work, you are likely to muck up the surgery. So that said, there is something I wanted to present you guys here before we swing back to the I think we have John James, Representative John James of Michigan up next, because we're going to get into some of the nitty and gritty of what's actually on the docket. I Don Lemon of formerly of cnn and then CNN really was like, ah, this guy kind of sucked. He's out here saying that people on the right don't actually feel bad about the situation regarding Charlie Kirk. They're just making it up for political gain. Here you go.

[Rob Bluey]

The thing that is so obvious about it and I think is so disgusting is that you don't really care. You don't really care about Charlie Kirk. What you care is that this is a moment that you can use to to for clicks to boost your podcast or your streaming show or your radio show or your television show or your news show or your MAGA bonafides with the MAGA group.

[Tony Kennett]

By the way, this is the same guy right now who is running around various cities shoving microphones in people's faces, asking about the National Guard and fascism and then sprinting away like a scared child when it turns out the people who he's asking questions of happen to be normal Americans who give normal American answers. And by the way, just as someone who has put up a lot of Charlie Kirk based content, number one, I have the texts to prove that we were friends, you fool. And number two, I've gotten more threats since I have done so, so politely. Don Lemon, up yours. We're gonna scoot away to pick up the radio folks from commercial. We'll be back in a second with Representative John James. It's the Tony Kenneth cast. This is the Tony Kenneth cast on 93 WIBC. So we've had on Rob Bluey and we've speculated on what's going on in the halls of Congress. What is coming out of the events of the of last week, some of the rapid updates. Well we're going to one up that because we do enjoy anning up over here on the show. We've got from Michigan's 10th representative John James, one of the only officers that allows me not to call him sir, which you know is kind of a bonus for anyone. Representative JAMES how's it going sir?

[Representative John James]

I'm doing great man. Doing great. Thanks for back on Tony.

[Tony Kennett]

So let's dive right in. I want to make sure that we keep abreast of all that is going on in the House because there's a lot of big decisions to be made without the events of last week factoring in. And now you guys have an enormous amount to rush to. Of course there's the possible continuing resolution. There's the situation regarding maybe removing Ilhan Omar from committee assignments or possibly being censured. What is top of mind for you or at least what seems to be the main topic of conversation among the of your fellow representatives in the House right now?

[Representative John James]

The main topic of conversation that I'm hearing on the floor is really an acknowledgment that we live in a country that is in many regards as dark as we imagined it to be. There are forces, the principalities that are out there that we're taught and we, we know that the battle is not ours but the Lord's. We are here to be his hands and feet. We are here to be our blessing to others and we're just here to make sure that we do our jobs, keep Americans safe and folks on the mission delivering for the American people, making sure they understand that we are here fighting for them, standing for them and to make sure that we are, we are continuing to make America great again. So we are undeterred by an assassin's bullet, though our hearts are broken and our prayers continue to go out to Erica and the kids while we continue to mourn Charlie's death. We are doing everything to make sure that the evil ones do not win, that we continue to make America safe, strong and great again. And we're going to continue to do that because as long as there's breath in our lungs, the Lord's not done with us. And we have a lot of do work to to do.

[Tony Kennett]

Absolutely. I mean what Christ orders, he pays for. And I think that's an incredible, it's a really. Well, I don't know how to say it more eloquently, it rests very heavy on the soul. It keeps a lot of things that you're doing in perspective. I'm really discouraged that a lot of people in the House don't seem to hold that same opinion. Of course, you were one of the individuals who were able to note the calling out, the shouting out during. I believe it was Lauren Boebert, Representative Boebert's request for a prayer on behalf of Charlie Kirk and his family. Since that point, though, I, I just to. To kind of keep things in the same vein. There's a lot of discussion on the floor of the House as to what's going to be done to keep Americans safe. There's a lot of proposals that are just flying in as quickly as they can be tweeted out. Does it appear that we're going to see any specific measures brought forward? Are these maybe in some committee discussions? I know Republicans usually kind of argue things a lot more out in the open than your counterparts on the other side of the aisle do. What is the level of activity like beyond the acknowledgment, which, of course you and I know that a lot of your fellow representatives in the House share?

[Representative John James]

Well, the, the House is here specifically to reflect the passions of the people. And as you can imagine, the passions of the people are, are quite bright right now, quite hot right now, seething. In many cases, there is no such thing as a bad idea. And people just got back from their homes and they're bringing ideas from their communities. That's exactly how this is supposed to work. But as we're working together in conference to figure out which these ideas bubble up to the top, which ones are actually going to make the most impact. We're beginning to take a look at everything that's poisoning the minds of our youth, because before someone commits a heinous act, their minds have been poisoned. And this is part of the reason why even last year we were talking about TikTok, that the, the CCP is, is funding the, the twisting in of the minds of our youth and they're funding the flow of fentanyl into our country. They are paying for the dividing of this nation and we can't buy into it. And so looking at, at how the, the young people's minds are being infiltrated by this poison on social media, there are Republicans who are leading the way. My App Store bill goes a long way in adding parental protections, protecting parental rights, making sure that we all agree that children cannot consent, making sure that we're not Leaving our children out there on Discord servers or on Meta. I've said once before, many, many times since after that, Facebook is the Philip Morris of our time. We cannot be surprised when these, when our children are radicalized, when they're left unattended with this hateful stuff. So again, we're really looking at everything from hardening our spaces that our children are in, both school to cyberspace. So we're really looking at activity to help the most vulnerable, the most impressionable, be able to give parents the ability and the tools to protect our loved ones.

[Tony Kennett]

There's a lot of question about the access that children have to various platforms. I know there was a story not too long ago about the kind of child gaming platform called Roblox, basically playing a host to pedophiles. And then whether or not certain individuals were being removed because they were asking too many questions or because they were a part of obstructing justice, or not a part of obstructing justice. But more so from that, that foreign influence that I wanted to ask you about. During the Obama administration, some of the restrictions on other countries pushing propaganda into this country were lifted. You and I have talked about this before, before some of these cases. What do we begin to do? It's one thing to kind of hop up on network television and say we need to take action here, but if you're actually going to restrict the CCP, which you talked about via TikTok or Russia or any other foreign power out there, any other country on the face of the earth, ally, enemy, whatever, how do we begin to do that? From the pen of the, like you said, the direct reflection of the people in the House.

[Representative John James]

Two ways when we're looking at the. The Smith Mundt act is something that the Obama admin Administration tweaked and we're taking a look at that. Many of your listeners, viewers may have heard a young woman making some very good points about Americans being propagandized by outside dollars and there being very little accountability across legacy and social media. Taking a look at that, making sure that everybody has the right to freedom of speech. Everybody has a right to say what they feel in this country without threat of reprisal their from their government. However, it does not absolve them from consequences. And if they are stating opinion, they need to express that clearly and not try to pass it off as fact. There's also something that in our, in our institutions, our colleges. I led a bill last Congress called the Disclosed Gift act that required, required any college, university, professor, whatever, if you are you. First of all, you cannot take any money from any entity of concern. You cannot take money from North Korea, cannot take money from Iran, cannot take money from those who would hurt us.

[Tony Kennett]

And how is Columbia going to get its money?

[Representative John James]

I'll tell you, it's funny you mentioned Colombia because remember those protests, the anti Israel protests. Did you notice how a lot of those tents looked a lot really similar across the country and how Representative certainly.

[Tony Kennett]

Didn'T mention it on the show. How would you suggest such a thing? Thing?

[Representative John James]

Of course not. I certainly not paying attention to the truth that you're putting out there, of course.

[Tony Kennett]

Oh, no.

[Representative John James]

But I'll tell you what, Tony hit the nail right on the head is they actually are finding people who are funneling money into these universities and they are continuing to fund the spewing of hate, continuing to fund anti Semitic and anti American rhetoric. And, and there's a, there's traces of money there. And all we're saying is that, that these, these professors and these universities can no longer hide behind their tenure to, to, to propagate these, these indoctrinating ideas from, from those who would mean to, to hurt us. Our enemies are trying to break us from within and being naive about, about their tactics is going to weaken us as a nation. So specifically, two ways, again, looking at, looking at how we can protect ourselves while also respecting our constitutional rights and really focusing on the most vulnerable and most impressionable and really seeing that propagated through the media and through universities.

[Tony Kennett]

Representative John James of course, we love having you on because as a representative from the Rust Belt, there's just a perspective when you actually look at the most abandoned class of people in the United States, that kind of labor worker who now sees their country not only being sold out to, you know, over the last 20 years, four nations economically, but also socially via the propaganda of China and other hostile governments. Representative James thank you so much for joining us. Really appreciate it.

[Representative John James]

Thanks for having me on, Tony. God bless.

[Tony Kennett]

We'll be back in a second. Don't go anywhere. It's the. Tony. Kenneth Castle. All right, real quick here, a little bit of bonus tonus just for you guys because I first of all want to thank maga. Hat stays on for the very kind tips, the super chats, and we don't ask for those, but we really do appreciate the support. This I have been waiting to share with you. It is something that is truly special. I don't really know how else to introduce it. First of all, every once in a while there are people who Believe that everything is the result of some kind of a conspiracy. And don't get me wrong, I hear you. Sometimes, you know, there's conspiracies. I believe that mattress firm is a money laundering operation. Come on, how many cars you ever seen buying mattresses at a mattress firm in the parking lot? Really? Come on. Now, how are those stores staying open? All right, those are fun conspiracies. Good hoot. Then there are people like the pro Hamas, pro Palestinian crew that truly do believe that everything is a secret Israeli Jewish plot. So this guy named Walid Mahmoud. And then a Palestine flag. In his social media, he posts a picture of Bibi and this delegation that includes Secretary of State Marco Rubio. And they're in some tunnels and they're hitting things with like a little hammer. And then there's some pretty interesting kind of steel work, kind of cylindrical tunnel structure. And he says these tunnels are a symbol of, of a project to erase Palestinian identity and to claim Jerusalem as only Israel's. So when an American leader stands there smiling, it's not innocent, it's a message. The US is not a neutral player. It is taking sides and fueling the genocide. Actions like these don't bring peace. There's just one problem. I was exactly where these people were standing three weeks ago. Couple of things here. Number one, this, this is a tunnel, just like right outside the Old City. So like it's in the part of Jerusalem that is controlled by Israel proper. Number two. Oh, sorry, let me verify my claim here. There we go. These tunnels are simply an. A recent excavation. They are not yet open to the public. I was, I was very honored as a Christian to be able to walk, walk through this excavation site. I'm going to explain why. Because this particular tunnel is literally just the temple road from the bottom of the valley up to the temple. Herod's temple of Jerusalem, about 14 BC to 48 AD. And over time, literally just dirt and other rocks have been layered on top of it. Because I don't know if you guys know this, but in 8070 when like Jerusalem was burnt in Sheldon's stuff packed, stuff got packed up on top layers like a cake. So the entire point of this entire project is to excavate the Roman road up from the valley that the early kind of Roman Empire incursion into Judea was crafted up to the temple. That's it. It is simply the road from the bottom of the valley to the temple. And by the way, that, that Jesus walked. And that was what we were told. Now we were Also told a couple of other things, because this archaeological site, first of all, is one of the most brilliant feats of archaeological engineering in history. It is going under an active town. We were told that we very, very well could come across jutting out of the wall or recently excavated that hasn't been picked up or sifted a Roman coin. And they begged us, they said, we have other archaeological artifacts that we are willing to trade you. You, if you give us any coinage that you find. And here's why. Some of these Roman coins are suspected to have Caesar on one side and early Chinese script on the other, which means that could fundamentally change everything archaeologically we know about trade and history. Everything. Everything could change based on a coin found in this time tunnel. Now, you'll notice I said nothing about Palestine at all. Yeah, because Palestine has nothing. You also notice I didn't say anything about Israel at all, really. Other than that, why was this tunnel buried? Archeological history, I hate to break it to you folks, has nothing to do with the modern nation of. Of Israel in this instance. Other than that, I believe from the historical text, Israel owns this rightfully. But aside from all of that, to get out there and complain, oh, those Jews and their archaeology. What. What. What is your problem? These are the steps Jesus walked on. It's freaking cool. And by the way, I don't have this here, but they also have just excavated the real Pool of Siloam, the one where, you know, Christ made the spittle with the mud, rubbed it on the man's eyes, and then he washed off in the Pool of Siloam that's at the bottom of that road. At the very bottom of that road, the end of the tunnel, is the Pool of Siloam. So people would come, they would gather the Pool of Siloam, then they would go up the trail, open air at the time, to the temple. Amazing. Now, I. I'm really gonna. Sorry, I'm really gonna geographicize myself here. I don't know what a word. Isolate myself geographically. Essentially, the Temple road was. If you are in Muncie, Indiana, for those of you who aren't from Indiana, imagine Pawnee from Parks and Recreation just turned upside down. That's what they modeled it after. Scatterfield in Anderson or McGalliard in Muncie, just the main drag with all of the shops on the left and the right to a point of interest. So, again, I'm sorry for all of you who aren't from Indiana. Your main street through town, but not like the main street with the courthouse on it. The main street with all the shops on either side, the thoroughfare that people traveled by nature of, it's the easiest. Not the legal, fancy Main street street in Greenfield. In Indiana, it's State Road 9 instead of U.S. 40. I don't know why I felt the need to explain that. I'm a big nerd. I used to be a science teacher. That kind of stuff is interesting. And whenever people get freaked out over basic science or history, whether you're Maisie Hirono or Mahmoud, whatever, I don't know. Dunking on you is really fun. I'm from Indiana basketball and dunking is kind of the thing that we do. That said, said one final little bit here. I'm going to check. Producer Nick, did you have anything to add or a message I thought maybe you sent my way? Yes. No. Awesome. Well, in that case, a very, very quick couple of questions that I would save normally for a different part of mail time, but I think that these two questions are pretty important. So number one from during the show, a lovely lady named Linda, she says regarding reading texts on air from Robinson to his roommate, won't reading these texts interfere with the trial? Won't it pollute the venue? The answer, believe it or not, is both yes and no. We've reached a point in society where high profile cases are analyzed so heavily by people before you even get to the trial itself that it is a little bit more difficult for things to remain pure. However, I will say that the answer in this case is no, because there has not really been a time in history that the evidences brought forward for the charges in the first place were kept from the public. A prosecutor or a county or a state or a federal attorney has never really been in the position where they want to hide evidence kind of in their back pocket overtly as to not taint the courtroom itself. You want the person to be guilty going into the courtroom, and then if it's fake, then the defense lawyer get in there and question it and tear it all down. It doesn't taint the trial. You know, it's not, it's not as though, you know, if there was less evidence in front of the public, then O.J. simpson would have been rightfully convicted of the murder of Nicole. You know, I think that there is a concern with Americans right now of really hyper politicized juries, and they're really, you know, there really is something to say about that. But alas, another question, three questions tonight. This next one from Danes, he asks, what about the broader network under investigation here? What do you think that the. The end punishment will be? So right now, as Cash Patel stated at the FBI, and I'm glad that you brought this up because I meant to play this clip. Clip a little bit earlier, and we didn't have the time to. I want to make sure I get this clip right. Yes. Senator Josh Hawley asked Cash Patel today, going forward, what's the plan? What's the information? What are you guys looking for? Here was Cash Patel's response. Reports have suggested that the FBI is investigating a broader network of groups that may have had some knowledge of the shooter's plans. Can you give us any details on that? Following up what you've already said in public, how's the FBI working to find other potential accomplices, folks who may have known about the shooter's plans, folks who may have encouraged him? Any update on any of that?

[FBI Director Cash Patel]

So, in terms of what we do for an interrogation perspective, we go and reach out to the family and community immediately, and we've conducted those investigations and interrogations with local law enforcement, and we're continuing to do that because those closest to the suspect are going to hopefully know the most about the suspect and his beliefs and his ideology. On top of that, unfortunately, it has been leaked that there was a Discord chat, and for those unfamiliar with it, it's a gaming chat room online that the suspect participated in. So what we're doing, we've already done is sort of legal process, not just on Discord, so that the information we gather is sustained and held in a evidentiary posture that we could use in prosecution should it be decided to do so. And we're also going to be investigating anyone and everyone involved in that Discord chat.

[Tony Kennett]

Okay, very good. I see the public reports that the Discord thread had as many as 20 additional users. It sounds like you're. You're trying to run down all of that to see if that's accurate. By the way, I do want to point out there has never been a more important time in our nation's history for the person who is currently in charge of the FBI to be the guy that is currently standing there. And by the way, Assistant FBI Director Dan Bongino has been phenomenal on this so far. He hasn't been out in front of the public very much because he has been heading this thing up. I do believe, based on the evidence right now in front of us, we are currently working on getting additional experts on this topic to get on the show and kind of go into detail about what a broader investigation is going to look like, like. On that note, the broad expanse of investigation on who is connected to this is going to end up in two places. Number one, there is going to be an investigation into the Antifa connections to those who thought it would be easy and comfortable to simply be connected in that little Discord group. So for those of you who are never in the the Discord or not not in familiar with with Discord as a platform. I'll explain it with a quick asterisk. I'm. I'm sorry that I am now going over this kind of a key part of this show now in 8:11 in Bonus Tonus. I meant to go over it earlier but again, when it's an hour network broadcast show, you really only have the time that you have. So I'm going to try to make up for that now if you'll excuse me. I'm sorry. So Discord is a social media platform and application where you can create a server essentially like a group message. Our show has one. You go to the description on wherever you're getting this and there's a link to the Discord. It simply has a list of channels that are like message categories and you can communicate. We have like some memes that we share and we share the shows there every evening and we talk and you know, share pictures, for example. I shared both of those Israel pictures with the crew before. And the problem for the broader space at least is in terms of recognizing threats before they become actual Facebook groups are more public than Discord groups. Discord groups can be created pretty quickly with very little time needed, public eyes on it. And again, there's no re. There's no reason that you have to actually communicate who you are on the platform. And it can be a way to communicate some pretty dangerous stuff quickly. We're going to be talking with Quinn Weimer tomorrow on the situation in Nepal. An entire government was just overthrown by teenagers and kids in their early twenties through Discord. Through Discord. They elected a prime minister through Discord. We're going to talk about that with her tomorrow. This is the new age of countering terrorism. And by the way, the only bright side of this, I guarantee you most of these fools weren't using good VPNs and even then those can eventually be cracked. That's kind of spoofing your Internet address and where you're at. I don't believe that they were careful on kind of the anonymity on things. You are going to see an antifa cell investigated, which will likely lead to A broader network. Number two, you're going to see the funders of various organizations like George Soros and the Ford foundation, which Vice President Vance outlined yesterday on the Charlie Kirk Show. Since then, there have been left wing journalists that have tried to come out and say, oh, no, there aren't really any outlets that are funded by George Soros. That's all a lie. That's already been disproven. There are again, when you're a nonprofit, you have to post who you donate money to. Kind of required. We have the data that shows this. Even the left hasn't been able to erase that completely. There is one other question that I wanted to hit tonight, just because it came in and I thought it was a good question. This is from a guy named Kissing Camp Tibetan Mastiffs. What a name. What about criminal swatting? Should that be prosecuted? First Amendment speech. No, not First Amendment speech. Swatting is the illegal act in which you call a law enforcement agency and you say, hey, there is this person on the air right now? I believe that they're a threat to their family. They're like holding people hostage. They're doing something. The kind of thing you would report to law enforcement and then they would show up right then, right there with a SWAT team and the police knock on the door and say, open up, it's the police. Because the person is on the air, they don't come and answer the door. And the goal of the person doing the swatting is that the cops will enter and shoot the individual who by then may just be getting up from their desk. So regarding swatting, have. Has anyone ever attempted to swat the Tony Kenneth cask? Yes. However, the. The city and the county police departments are both very well aware of this, as is the FBI branch in Indianapolis. Nice try. No, I, I'm friends with our cops. We don't run from them and, you know, turn traffic stops into disasters because, you know, we were raised right. But in the meantime, swatting is not a First amendment protected thing. You cannot call law enforcement and say, hey, someone is committing a crime when they're not committing a crime crime. You cannot provide false information to law enforcement. That is illegal. You can't do it. The First Amendment, the protection of free speech does not mean you can just get out there and say whatever you want, even if it's excessively violent. And even just. You can just get out there and say everything anywhere. No, you cannot incite violence. You cannot provide false information to law enforcement. There are a series of things that are not only upheld in local and state precedent, but also the Supreme Court precedent. So Congress isn't allowed to make certain laws saying that you can and cannot say certain things. But there are moments where your speech stops being just speech and it starts becoming action. When you encourage someone to kill someone else or you encourage violence upon an individual, that is incitement. When you give law enforcement false information, that's a string of local, state and federal charges. So those questions answered? I'm sorry for the kind of the weird late break on the back half of the news this evening. I do think some of these questions are worth answering because we really do try to be very transparent on the show. We try to make it as easy as possible for you guys to see how we're doing things. And that way we can continue bringing you the kind of content that we are. For example, tomorrow on the show, we're going to announce how you you can join the giveaway for 20 free Megyn Kelly tickets on her Megyn Kelly Live tour that they gave to us to our show to give away. And guess what, it's Tuesday, September 16th, and we still haven't given them away yet. So we're going to do that. So join us tomorrow, especially over on the Live stream, whether you're on the live stream, podcast, radio or TV syndication partners. Thanks for joining us. This has been the Tony Kenneth cast on the Daily Signal, nationally syndicated and first on 93 WIBC. Take care.