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Ep. 415 - BREAKING: James Comey INDICTED, ICE-Tracking Apps, Mass Fed. Layoffs, Democrats Threaten Sinclair
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Former FBI director James Comey has been INDICTED. More to follow. New details from the latest terror attack against law enforcement in Texas emerge, including left-behind notes, family interviews, and habits showcased and promoted by major network media outlets. Our Virginia Allen joins us on the latest.
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Let's get down to business.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
You're listening to the Tony Kennett cast.
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Josh Hammer
On 93 WIBC on CYTV, here on the Daily Signal.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Good evening and welcome to the Tony Kennett cast here on the Daily Signal, nationally syndicated, first on 93 WIBC. There's quite a bit to tackle. And the very top of that list, former FBI Director James Comey has been indicted on two counts of false statements and a count of the obstruction of justice. According to Attorney General Pam Bondi's statement this Evening right before 7pm, quote, no one is above the law. Today's indictment reflects this Department of Justice commitment to holding those who abuse positions of power accountable for misleading the American people. We will follow the facts in this case. Also, according to Assistant Director Dan Bongino, quote, when Director Patel and I took on our leadership positions in the FBI, we promised the American people accountability. Promises matter, end quote. So we're going to dive into a few things. But first of all, I, I must say this was expected after the last couple of weeks given statements from the Trump administration. There was a post that was sent on Trump's Truth Social page that he very quickly deleted in which he seemed very displeased with the Attorney General's office because there had not been a series of indictments that he believed and those on his team believed there was enough evidence in order to indict on two very specific things. Number one, on cases of mortgage fraud and number number two, on cases of lying before Congress and the obstruction of justice. So in regard to mortgage fraud, as we said yesterday on the show, when a few out there were rather annoyed I was reporting that an indictment was coming. And now here we are, another coin in the jar. Producer NICK I said that mortgage fraud was one of the most easily identifiable crimes and it is not necessarily one that you can do a lot of speculating on. There's a lot of checkboxes, one must tick a lot of lines, one must initial when filling out mortgage documents that make it very clear you're responsible if you goof this up and there happen to be some high level individuals who appear to have committed high level mortgage fraud. These being, for example, Attorney General Letitia James of New York, Senator Adam Schiff of California, and so on and so forth. Regarding FBI Director James Comey, I said yesterday on the show that one of the most easily identifiable crimes was a direct and blatant perjurous lie before Congress? Because there are some questions. By the way, in case you were wondering, the reason that in the era of televised committee hearings, senators and representatives often ask yes or no questions is not just so they can get sound bites for political campaigns, although, of course, we all know that's a huge part of it today. The other reason is for this exact reason, and James Comey, with clips that we played on the show yesterday, was very, very clearly and overtly asked by, for example, Senator Ted Cruz about documents and whether certain things were leaked. And Comey did not give answers that were accurate whatsoever to another topic.
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Senator Ted Cruz
On May 3, 2017, in this committee, Chairman Grassley asked you point blank, quote, have you ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation, of the Clinton investigation? You responded under oath, quote, never. He then asked you, quote, have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton administration? You responded again under oath, no. Now, as you know, Mr. McCabe, who works for you, has publicly and repeatedly stated that he leaked information to the Wall Street Journal and that you were directly aware of it and that you directly authorized it. Now, what Mr. McCabe is saying and what you testified to this committee cannot both be true.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Here's what's going on. Here are the events that took place. There were a series of classified documents that it appears based on records, not allegedly someone whose account was James Comey sent certain documents which were classified to an intermediary, a buddy of former FBI Director James Comey. That buddy then leaked those documents, which are classified, that Comey does not have the authority to declassify to the New York Times. And when he was asked about this, and by the way, not just the several other instances where basically they said, did you use your access to classified documents? Did you use your access to the, let's say, the Director of National Intelligence daily briefing of the president, like in the Obama administration, for example, on whether or not Russia interfered with the election on behalf of Trump. When that situation was brought before James Comey, time and time again, he answered, no, I was above board. I didn't do anything wrong. And it appears based on a series of investigations, a series of reports, not just from Senator Chuck Grassley's office, although there is no one who keeps receipts like Chuck Grassley. Someday I hope to keep receipts. That man could put CVS out of business with the receipts that he keeps. There's a little, little Midwestern inside joke there for you. In the whole of this situation. Comey's ego and answering questions resolutely when Republicans are going after him appears to be a serious screw to him in this situation. Here's his response.
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Senator Ted Cruz
One or the other is false. Who's telling the truth?
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Tony Kennett (Host)
I can only speak to my testimony. I stand by what the testimony you summarized that I gave in May of 2017.
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Senator Ted Cruz
So your testimony is you've never authorized anyone to leak and Mr. McCabe, when if he says contrary, is not telling the truth. Is that correct?
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Again, I'm not going to characterize Andy's testimony, but mine is the same today.
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Senator Ted Cruz
All right, I'm going to make a final point because my time has expired.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Essentially, the point that Cruz makes is if you are lying here, it's not going to be pretty. And guess what? It's not pretty. Now, I also said there was likely to be an obstruction of justice charge attached to this because through the processes of, for example, discovery and looking through documents that will now be unearthed and whether or not Comey definitively lied to Congress or not, because Comey's not the director of the FBI anymore and it's very likely that Bongino and Patel already have all of the documents in place. As much as Hillary Clinton would like you to believe otherwise, it's very, very difficult to delete federal ownership of documents inside an executive agency altog other really not that simple. But in any case, the obstruction of justice charge is the issue here for Comey. We really don't know if this is kind of the end of it because Comey has arguably committed some form of the obstruction of justice in a multiplicity of ways, violating his oath as the director of the FBI in order to castigate, in order to persecute Americans based on a political narrative and directly in opposition to the facts of the case. Again, I cite CIA Director John Brennan and FBI Director James Comey in the series of emails to Obama's office in which they said, yeah, we know that Russia didn't do anything we know or didn't do anything beyond social media posts. We know that Russia didn't weigh in on Donald Trump winning. In fact, it's far more likely that they sat on information about Hillary Clinton's rampant tranquilizer use, you know, dig it into the qua lewds in order to help Hillary Clinton win the election. And they failed. And they threw all of that away and instead spied on the Trump campaign directly and then lied to Congress about it. You can't do that. And in the same way, to put this in a Very layman's term kind of situation here. You are not allowed, you are not allowed to go to a law enforcement agency, whether you are within the law enforcement agency or without the law enforcement agency and say, hey, there is a fire happening on the east end of town, people are in danger. And then all of the cops go to look at this fire on the east side of town, while you privately know on the west side of town there is a bank being robbed that is illegal. You cannot obstruct justice in that way. It's not just telling a cop, oh, no, I don't know anything, and not reporting things to the police. That's not what obstruction of justice means. Or at least that's not what obstruction of justice is relegated to. Obstruction of justice is a specific series of actions that impede the application of justice and the law in the United States. See, while the President has some level of prosecutorial discretion, individuals like the director and the assistant director of the FBI and the CIA, they don't have prosecutorial discretion. That's not something that they enjoy at that level. And so it is going to be a very, very interesting trial here. It appears that, that the individuals who just waltzed before Congress and pled the fifth also might be drawn into future indictments because if they can get Comey on the obstruction of justice here, that opens up a different kind of obstruction series of cases for Obama administration officials. And I will remind everyone again, because I said this last night, for those who say, well, I want him charged with treason and I want him charged with all of this other stuff. Okay, I hear you. I will remind you that the most intense, the most high level charge in any court case is the weakest one with Sean Diddy Combs. They threw RICO at him, they threw the racketeering charges at him because they were going to get him and they were going to get him good. And you know what? It wasn't strong enough. And Diddy ended up walking away with a lot less than he deserved because the charges were way too strong, you can throw the book, you can say, ah, yes, treason for Comey. And if you can't prove that in the district court that this is going to be tried in, well, in the Eastern district of Virginia, you think that some grand jury in the again, Eastern district of Virginia, federally, that's not going to be a bit of an issue. Chargers better be airtight. Radio crew. Sorry, we're a minute over. I'll take the FCC fine on the chin. We'll send you to commercial land and be Back in a minute. It's the Tony Kinnit cast live stream. We'll be right here. Hopefully that one won't be too rough. So over to the livestream side of things. There really is an entire group in the media and in Congress right now who are begging, demanding and pleading, why, oh, why, oh, why, oh, why won't Donald Trump just sit down and talk with us? And it's very weird because you've seen individuals like former FBI Director James Comey and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama and half of Democratic Congress, which we'll get to here in just a bit, calling Trump and everything he is associated with, fascist Nazi Gestapo, et cetera, ad nauseam. But now, now that it's time for a budget fight and now that it might be possible that Alexandria Ocasio Cortez could primer Senator Chuck Schumer in New York in the Senate election, well, now you've got House and Senate Democrat leadership essentially begging Trump, please, oh, please just, just meet with this and, and include funding for illegal immigrant health care and, and PBS and npr.
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Hakeem Jeffries
Republicans have clearly demonstrated they want to shut the government down. Throughout this process. An intentional decision was made by Republican leadership in the House and the Senate not to have a single conversation with Democrats. They're not even pretending as if they want to find common ground. Donald Trump agrees to our demand on Saturday to hold a meeting in the Oval Office to try to avert a government shutdown. The meeting is set on Monday for later on in the week. And then Donald Trump wakes up Tuesday morning and goes on an unhinged rant and cancels the meeting. Why? Because he doesn't want to discuss the Republican health care crisis and they've decided to shut the government down.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Incredible. Incredible stuff. This is Hakeem whining right now because there are Democrats that are defecting, that don't want to go into some kind of rough situation in swing states and be responsible for a government shutdown. The minor party that is holding up procedure always gets blamed the shutdown. That's how it works. And also, I'm going to tell you a secret. Americans have kind of heard the whole shutdown thing before, have they not? Producer Nick, in your memory, what, like two, three times in the last year calendar we've had whining argument, Patty cake slap fights about government shutdowns.
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Producer Nick
It always seems to be the same three people as well that are going out and complaining directly against Republicans, Gavin Newsom, Chuck Schumer and Jeffries.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
It's such a good point. I'm, I'm really impressed. That's a great point. Seriously, the idea that Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer are going to come out and be Shirley Temple and Little Debbie in order to get you to buy their crap, it ain't working this time, chief. And Americans just don't care. There are other things on the table. And again, I will remind you that Democrats in this exact industry right now have spent the entire last couple of months here going after Trump for what they call being the ultimate authoritarian, the Nazi, the fascist. He's evil incarnate. We need to stop him. We need to do whatever we can to impede him. Again, Chuck Schumer saying, we're going to encourage federal judges to throw up injunctions everywhere. And he was laughing darkly like, we're going to get the federal judges to get in there and stop him. Now all of a sudden, they need Trump because again, Trump's getting defecting Democrats anyway. They need Trump to come to the table. And it's, oh, please, Mr. Trump, won't you please? Here's Chuck Schumer with his begging game here. If we can get this in before the radio crew comes back, let's talk.
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Donald Trump
About what's happening on the Hill. It looks like we may be moving toward a government shutdown. Can that be averted?
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Chuck Schumer
I hope it can. We Democrats definitely want to avert a shutdown. We know how bad it is. And we're asking something very simple, Joe, for the president to sit down and talk with us.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Please. Please sit down and talk with us. Oh, por favor, senor. Incredible. You know what? That ain't gonna work. It just isn't. We're gonna cover this a little bit more here because you need to see this. This is what's gonna be the topic of discussion other than comey here in a couple of days. Don't go anywhere. Tony Kennett cast. We'll be right back.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
This is the Tony Kennett cast on.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
So Chuck Schumer on his knees before Trump on Morning Joe, which you could, by the way, you could even see Joe and Mika. They're like, oh, don't do this, please. Just don't. Don't do that. Have a little dignity. Chuckles and no, no dignity at all. So I want to go back to where we left off here. Chuckles is begging, please, Donald Trump, please meet with me. Because what is. Is Chuck really concerned about? What is still the number one priority for the Democrats? Now, look, I know budget stuff is boring and stupid, and again, they lie about what is and isn't happening anyway. But at least, at least hear the man out. He's about to get curb stomped by an AOC campaign for the President to.
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Chuck Schumer
Sit down and talk with us. You know, he's not the king. He can't just dictate what happened. He said he doesn't need Democrats. Well, then he doesn't know how to count.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
That's not what he said. He didn't say that he doesn't need Democrats at all in this case. But I will remind you here, just as a fun point, notice that Chuck says here, as the Senate Minority leader, Trump doesn't know how to count. That he doesn't have again, The Republicans having 53 votes, give or take one. If Vance has to break a tie. Republicans having 53 votes in the Senate is not enough. That is not just, that's not the super majority it's played out to be. And here Chuck's accidentally going to tell you why.
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Chuck Schumer
Because there are 60 votes in the Senate that you need to pass this and he's got 53. And frankly, when I was majority leader for four years, the last four, we didn't have a shutdown. Why? Because I sat down and talked with Republicans and we compromised.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Survey says no. In fact, I'm so sorry, no, he didn't just sit down and talk with Republicans. Consistently. Consistently. That's not true. He then goes on to talk about how important it is for him that, well, we really need all of this. You know, illegal immigrant, the health care. There's this crisis. No one has any health care, which again, I kind of find strange. We'll talk about this with Elizabeth Warren here in a second. But Trump gets asked by a reporter later of a particular major network whether or not he's going to play to this. And you'll notice, by the way, that the reporter says that Republicans can just pass whatever they want. So a little bit of leading question dishonesty or just a really stupid reporter. Here you go.
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Donald Trump
Can I ask you.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
We're a few days away, by the way.
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Donald Trump
Here we go with this guy. Go ahead, let's go. Let's hear the questions.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Away from the end of the fiscal.
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Donald Trump
Year to potential shutdown, right there going to be a government shutdown? Could be. You know, because the Democrats are crazed, they don't know what they're doing. They want to have the border opened up so that criminals can pour in. You know, we're doing unbelievable. Borders closed and people are coming into our country legally. They want to have, they continue to want to have men and women's sports. They Continue to want to have transgender for everyone. They want to raise everybody's taxes at a number that's not sustainable. It's the only time in the world I've ever seen a party that wants to raise taxes. You know, I grew up in a family where I'd watch politics and I always liked it from the time I was very young. But I'd always see politicians say, we will lower your taxes. These guys, they campaign on raising your taxes, but they want to raise taxes very substantially.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
I think the one thing they're. Now, here's where the reporter is going to push back. And again, either this is malicious reporting or he is an idiot. Now, it's usually good practice to assume ignorance before malice, but here you go, here's the follow up that's going to say, well, why don't you just do it? Concerned about, I mean, look, public has.
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Donald Trump
A total control of Washington because of the House. The Senate is.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Your Republicans have total, total control. He said you have control of the House and the Senate.
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Donald Trump
Well, when you say control. So we need 60 votes for this and we have 53 Republicans. So we need seven Democrats. And those seven Democrats and others are.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Asking for an extension of a tax credit on people who get the Affordable Care act and some other government health care. So are you willing to.
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Donald Trump
Well, what they're really asking for is they want to pay for illegal aliens that have come into our country by the millions.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
That is correct, by the way, that that is objectively true, that the cuts that were made in the Affordable Health act of shenanigans was to allow individuals who are in this country illegally access to taxpayer subsidized health care measures. That is what it did. That's what those cuts removed. And so the reporter saying, well, you have control of the Congress. Why do you even need. Trump says, no, I, we have 53. You need 60 for a large scale budget measure like this to pass. Now, here's the dirty secret. The public is pretty much aware that health care hasn't just collapsed entirely in the last couple of years, despite, you know, people like Elizabeth Warren doing what Democrats do when the begging and pleading strategy isn't working. Democrats do three things. Number one, they do really weird, shaky car influencer videos. I've always hated recording in the car and I even have colleagues that do that. I don't like it. Like, don't, don't film yourself in the car. Just step out of the car and film Homie. You don't need to get out there and do the weird shaky video and Give me epilepsy. That's not very nice. Uh, so Elizabeth Warren's. They're gonna do the car video and then all we're really missing after Elizabeth Warren's car video is Representative Hank Johnson getting out the guitar and singing out of tune. Uh, and then you're gonna have some Democrat senator, probably Cory Booker awkwardly cursing like a junior hire who's using the F word for the first time. So those two things are coming. Just want you to know. But Elizabeth Warren, shaky car video. Go.
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Tony Kennett
Donald Trump and the Republicans are threatening to shut down government because they rather take health care away from millions of people than keep the government open. Look, at the end of the month, the federal government runs out of money and that means Congress needs to pass a new budget. But here's the thing. This budget fight is about saving health care for millions of people.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Didn't we do this last time? Didn't we do this same tham ding last time? I think we did. And do you know why? Because all of the articles are still up. They're still online. Even the search engine SEO isn't scraping them all away into the dustbin of history yet. We've gotta get out here. All Republicans are trying to take the healthcare away from millions. They don't say who those millions are. They'll say families. They won't say like American citizens health care, because it's not American citizens health care. Again, I'm not a fan of huge entitlement social programs. I'm not. I'm not at all. But like Section 8 housing, which I'm also not a fan of. If my tax dollars are going to go to it, then it had better at least go to Americans on those entitlement programs. Again, I don't want things like section 8 housing. I don't want things like Medicare and Medicaid to be the bloated monstrosities that they are. But if we have to have them, at the very least my fellow citizens of the United States should be the beneficiaries of those programs. Doesn't seem like a crazy thing to ask. And, and Trump, by the way, reiterates later that this whole line of, of whatever just isn't going to work. And it's again, it's really funny to watch the Democrats try to fall on their own spear here. I just don't see it working.
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Donald Trump
Well, this is all caused by the Democrats. They asked us to do something that's totally unreasonable. They never change. They want to give money away to illegals illegally. People that entered our country. Illegally. They want to give them massive federal money. And we don't want to do that because it means everyone's going to just keep pouring back. Right now we have absolutely perfect borders like you haven't seen in many years. Even better than the. I had great borders during my four years. But these borders are stone cold flows. You can only come into our country legally now. But the Democrats want to give it all away. They want to also. They want to open up the borders. Take a look at that big thing. They want to open borders again. After what we're going through now, getting rid of prisoners, getting rid of all of these people dropped out from mental institutions.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
I don't want to get another FCC.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
Ding on this one.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
So radio crew, we do have to send you over to commercial. When we come back for y', all, we're going to talk about the updates from ICE that. Well, you know, a lot of networks aren't running. Don't go anywhere. It's the Tony Kenned cast. We'll continue on the live stream. I'll let the president finish here. You know, just such a nice guy.
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Donald Trump
Drug dealers, drug addicts, everything that they're putting everybody into our country. It's all ended now. But this is what Schumer wants. This is what the Democrats want. They want to have and they want to take our money. We're doing well because of tariffs. We're doing unbelievable. We're making more money than we ever now.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
By the way, the lady that you heard muttering in the background like a Soviet era number station. Yeah, that, that, that's the lady translating what the President's comments are to Turkey's duly elected leader who should not be a part of NATO. I am going to say yet again, I am a fan of one thing, particularly in this administration that is very apolitical. It is the full commitment to talking to the press about any issue, any time. Very few times at all are you going to get a no comment. Very few times is any administration official under assistant secretary or senior cabinet official, you are going to see a clear answer. Even if you're in a meeting with Turkey's leader Erdogan. Still getting the answers to the press. Again, very, very much appreciated. Rather than calling a lid or having some not particularly skinny congressional staffer come try to body slam the reporter trying to ask the congressman if he condemns political violence. And this does bring us to the situation regarding the latest ICE anti ICE terror attack. The latest anti ICE terror attack. So in Texas they have had three anti ice, anti border patrol terror Attacks over the last couple of months. September has been a horribly bloody month in political violence. And now we are witnessing crimes that are essentially popping right up one after the other. Not months long premeditated attacks. Because as we're going to talk about with Virginia Allen, our senior reporter here in just a second, the note left behind by the shooter in the ICE facility attack in Texas. Oh, well, what, you didn't, you didn't see the coverage of the handwritten note? Oh, I'm surprised MSNBC and ABC News weren't publishing that. Huh? That's interesting. Hmm. Well, I happen to remember a lot of articles about Jussie Smollett's imaginary subway sandwich attack in MAGA country, otherwise known as Chicago. But on this particular note, he cites the Charlie Kirk assassination directly. Guys, that's like two weeks ago. Producer Nick.
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Producer Nick
So you're telling me the writings on the bullet casings weren't trying to copy MAGA, but were trying to copy a very well known leftist assassination?
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Again, right after the event, MSNBC said, well, this could be some kind of a red herring or actually this could be some type. At least they didn't do the video game reference thing this time. Actually anti ice, that's a reference to Super Mario when he grabs the fire flower. Everyone knows that. Yes, excellent. The brilliant media analysis that we know and love from the major networks. So we're gonna get to some of those particular pieces of information. Afterward we're going to get into a couple of stories that have been completely abandoned. And Secretary of War Pete Hegseth is pulling all of the brass. So brass is the guys with stars on their shoulders. The generals and admirals from the army, the Navy, the Marine Corps, which still in the Navy, the Air Force and the Space Force are all being sent to Quantico in Virginia to discuss something that is completely unknown to the press. So first we're going to get some updates on the I situation. Don't go anywhere. It's the Tony Kenned cast here on the Daily Signal. Foreign.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
You're listening to the Tony Kenneth cast on 93 WIBC. We now go over to Virginia Allen with updates on the situation in Dallas, Virginia.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Good afternoon.
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Tony Kennett
Great to be with you, Tony.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
Let's hop right into it. There are some new details that are arising again. We were told just 24 hours ago that we still couldn't really pin down the mode of, you know, there's really not a whole lot to see here. Well, you have some additional details to us that really put that to the test.
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Tony Kennett
Yeah, that's Right. Tony. This has been just a whirlwind 24 hours, just over 24 hours of the FBI very rapidly doing what they can to investigate this tragic shooting at an ICE facility in Dallas that left one detainee dead, two others shot, wounded, in critical condition. And this morning we saw FBI Director Kash Patel say, okay, so far, this is what we uncovered. This is, of course, an ongoing investigation. But what we know, according to Patel so far, is that the alleged shooter, the man who was found at that crime scene, who had killed himself after carrying out this shooting, some really, really disturbing facts. He had downloaded a document titled Dallas County Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Management. So he was doing research on homeland security locations, facilities within Dallas area. And then he had also searched for ballistics and Charlie Kirk shot video. Really disturbing. So he was someone who was watching that video of Charlie Kirk. We saw a similar pattern in that the Charlie Kirk suspected shooter had written messages on those casing shells. Well, the same thing. Casing shells for those bullets found near the suspected shooter in the Dallas ICE shooting had written anti ICE on that casing. Furthermore, the suspected shooter had searched for apps that would track where ICE agents were.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
Oh, hang on, hang on a second here. That is something that I have to pump the brakes on a little bit. So remember when certain national news outlets were advertising just a couple of weeks ago, this app that would allow individuals to track ice, they were covering it. There were all of these doxing websites that were popping up. You, of course, have the Governor of California, Gavin Newsom, who is calling for all individuals in Immigration and Border Patrol to be demasked, to have their faces and their identities broadcast everywhere. And here we have the guy that people, counter to that point, have suggested would arise, those who are trying to use any information available to commit horrible acts of violence, direct assassination, acts of terrorism against these agents using these kinds of apps and resources.
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Tony Kennett
Yep, exactly. And this is something that DHS Secretary Christy Noem has been very clear on is you can't for one, use this kind of aggressive language, calling ICE agents Nazis and essentially referring to them as. As thugs, and then just expect that nothing bad is. Is going to happen. This has been an incident that has long been feared and tragically now has taken at least one life. And then furthermore, Kash Patel said on. On X this morning that there was a handwritten note that so far has been uncovered in this investigation. And that note reads, hopefully this will give ICE agents real tear to think, is there a sniper with AP rounds on the roof? So really disturbing that we have essentially a situation that appears to be unfolding that this suspected shooter was indeed targeting ICE agents specifically. Now there a local, a local outlet in the Dallas area. They actually had the opportunity to speak with the brother of the suspected shooter. That brother said he was not aware that his, his brother, who's now dead, was necessarily politically engaged. He said they didn't really talk about it. They didn't talk about ice. So it came to as a real shock to him. Both of these brothers were in Boy Scouts. And another individual who was in that Boy Scout troop and knew the suspected shooter has come forward and said that he does remember one conversation where the suspected shooter several years ago was frustrated that it seemed like people didn't understand that illegal aliens were just trying to come to the United States states to have a better life. But apart from that one conversation we've heard about, it doesn't necessarily seem like he had a long history, like the suspected shooter had a long history of being politically engaged or necessarily anti ice. Which again goes back to, okay, was it recent rhetoric that we've seen in a lot of the media from some politicians that may be spurred on this action? That's certainly something that the FBI is looking into.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
So one of the questions that I have that I've seen a lot of people essentially frame every incident of political terrorism, of course, through this, this very bloody September through the lens of, well, we've talked to, you know, we've talked to family, we've talked to former friends and they say, well, you know, maybe the individual wasn't very politically active. We didn't know that's not the political pipeline today Anyway, though, I can't think, and I don't think that really any of us could say that are in the millennial generation or lower. Those, again, probably from 45 on down who regularly talk with friends and family about politics, especially if we disagree with them. Most of the political discourse these days are online in communities and subreddits, in discord chats, in DM groups, perhaps certain circles of Facebook and X and Instagram and so on and so forth in which you just communicate with those inside your sphere. It doesn't necessarily mean you're going to go tell your parents. Yeah, you know, I'm actually considering some heavy scale violence. I don't think that. Again, it's just interesting now that I've seen a couple of people reach out to, for example, in the, in the case of the, the Minnesota legislator and her husband who were shot, Hortman, they went to the guy's neighbor like, well, what do you notice about your neighbor? And they expected a full political discourse of, well, this is who he was and what he was and all this. I don't, I haven't seen people act that way in public since the aughts, you know.
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Tony Kennett
Yeah, well, and I think that is an interesting point because police authorities have spoken to multiple individuals who, who live near the suspected shooter and most of them really didn't know him. You know, they had seen him, but they, they didn't know him personally. Just kind of a quiet guy, which is usually how it is. And Tony, to your point, usually the trend here is when someone is planning some really violent, heinous attack, if they share it with anyone, it's maybe one or two people.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
No way more so than the information. I'm sorry, forgive me for the scorn. I mean, look, I'm usually the guy that makes the semi sarcastic, well, breaking fact here. Usually people don't share it.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
But I mean to say that again.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
You see, the NBC affiliate in the area ran to his brother and they talked to his brother before his brother even had known that was the shooter in the incident. And again, from all of these conversations, I'm just shocked. They say the same with, with Tyler Robbins. And he didn't tell his dad. Well, yeah, no kidding. He didn't tell his dad right away, like does.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Duh.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
I'm, I'm astounded by kind of the lack of common sense that appears to now have somehow become like the AP standard in journalism.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Right.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
We have like the, the AP style guide standard.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Right.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
Things that we're supposed to say or not say in an article based on like these standards. When did a lack of common sense and naivety become standards we're supposed to include in our reporting? You know what I mean?
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Tony Kennett
Sure. Yeah. Well, and I think so much of it is everyone's just grasping at straws and trying to make sense of how on earth something like this happened. And I think given how close it follows the Charlie Kirk assassination, it's like, okay, we, we've hit a point in the country where this kind of very politically motivated violence is, is an increasing trend. And everyone is, is asking that question of why. And of course, Tony, as you talk about very openly, I think we largely know the reason.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Yeah, I was going to say, I.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
People, people may ask why in a, in a way that you might ask a rhetorical question why? When in reality we all do know. And again, we were only planning to kind of go into some of the updates for five minutes here. But alas, Virginia, we always seem to get into these situations. Tony, the reporting just is so much with it. And again, when you don't have someone on the air that's trying to hide information because they're spooked about saying what everyone is already well aware of, turns out there's far more to discuss. Virginia Allen, senior reporter, as well as the host of problematic women at the Daily Signal. We got to cut to commercial. Thanks again for hopping on.
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Tony Kennett
Thanks so much, Tony.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
Radio crew, we'll see you guys on the other side of the commercial break. Livestream crew, we're going to continue. Don't go anywhere. It's the Tony Kenneth cast.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
All right, I do want to make two things very clear here before we get into more information regarding the ICE shooter in Dallas. And then kind of the response from I've been very irresponsible response from those in Legacy Media, Congress, etc. First, the earlier I stated that Comey had been charged with two counts, a count of the obstruction of justice and a count of lying to Congress, perjury. I don't want this to be confused. Two counts in total, not three counts in total. Two counts perjury, one count obstruction, one count each, one false statement, lying to Congress in 2020, the other obstruction. And that's according to Katherine Herridge, brilliant reporter. Now, on that note, by the way, the specifics, she wrote this on 21 August. As FBI director, Comey would very much know whether his actions at any time violated 18 U.S. code 1924, which criminalizes mishandling classified documents. So the FBI leak investigation, in which it's again, who did the leaking of specific government documents, classified intelligence documents, to an individual who then leaked them to the New York Times FBI leak investigation, quote, tropic vortex was a criminal referral. The allegation is that disclosure of classified information to reporters was authorized by Comey. Comey gave it to a person in order to give it then to the New York Times, a handoff, a fence, if you will. That's the allegation here. And now as a reminder, intelligence, any intelligence document is born classified. That is a natural state of any intelligence document as soon as it is crafted, whether it be an internal office memo about a pizza party on Friday or a dossier on a domestic or foreign individual. It is by its inherent nature in the possession of a Department of justice intelligence agency classified or an executive intelligence agency classified. So as far as the argument that they're all, well, these are records that are not marked classified at the time markings, as Katherine Herich points out very correctly, do not determine classification. However, the content of the records determine classification. So if you look at and go, oh, it's just, you know, it's a birthday party flyer. Yeah, right. On second glance, that doesn't need to be classified. Documents have to be marked essentially later and analyzed for declassification, not for classification. So it'd be very interesting seeing how that comes out. Now, as to some of the rest of the information on the Dallas shooter and the anti ICE terror attacks, President Trump was asked about this at the Oval Office today. His answer to the situation apt and correct. Who do you hold responsible for the uptick in left wing violence?
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Donald Trump
Radical left rhetoric. The radical left is causing the problem. They're out of control. They're saying things and they're really dumb people. I mean, I look at Crockett, I look at.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
We'll get to this in just a minute. We got to bring the radio crew back from commercial. It's an interesting show tonight that's very out of order. It's the Tony Kennett cast.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
The Tony Kenneth cast on 93 WIBC.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
All right. We will cut over to Josh Hammer from Newsweek in just a moment to talk about some of the situations regarding generals meeting at Quantico in Virginia. We'll talk a little bit more about just the, the general nature of this Overton window that we need to again discuss because according to again, as you heard from Virginia Allen, the FBI has revealed writings and Internet searches from the shooter who fired into the ICE facility aiming for officers and instead hitting detainees and killing at least one of them that that individual had previously searched. Not only the video of the shot of Charlie Kirk had not only written that he wanted ICE to think there's always snipers on the roof at any time. By the way, this now explains why initial reports had FBI looking for a sniper even though the shooter had committed suicide up near the window. That essentially verifies the note. In case you were wondering. There's a lot of conspiracy theories right now that the FBI is like making up notes after the shooting in order to blame it on Israel or some other stupid aluminum foil nonsense. But in the meantime, there are other serious issues. As Virginia stated, the shooter in the anti ICE attack in Dallas, which is not specific enough. This last week's terror attack in Dallas, the latest anti ICE attack in Texas, the shooter utilized ICE locating and ICE doxing applications that he downloaded from either Apple or from Google. We don't know whether he had an iPhone or an Android. You know, whatever. Either way, he downloaded them from an app store. Now, since then the federal government has requested, as have a lot of activists, by the way, as have just normal people on, may I say, both the left and the right. Mostly on the right, but a few on the left. For example, a Democrat strategist that I often fence with have called on Apple and Google to take down applications that track ICE agents and docs. ICE agents, for example, the very apps that the shooter used. Maybe not even the entire category, maybe just the ones the shooter used to aid in his targeting of the ICE facility that likely gave him that very location, although that is speculation. Could have gotten it from a number of places. Could have just Googled ICE facilities just to make it clear he could have gotten it from that, that application. Apple and Google have refused to suspend the apps. They've refused. Apple and Google are refusing to take those apps down. I remind you, or I should really say that Adam Johnston, who's written quite a lot of excellent articles over at the Federalist, reminds us that Apple and Google suspended the app parlor, the social media app parlor, the kind of social, kind of Twitter alternative before Elon Musk purchased Twitter and it became X. Apple and Google suspended parlor right after the January 6 riot because they said that it was used to coordinate the protest. So when it's coordinating a protest, not even the riot, just to coordinate a protest that eventually became a riot, that's totally, that's totally out of bounds. Get rid of that. Off the app Store now. But when there are applications being used to fuel not a protest that, you know, turns into an altercation that then turns into crime. No, when there are applications that are used to coordinate violent acts such as doxing and open blatant murder, acts of terrorism used to intimidate for a political aim, which is what this is, Apple and Google have no problem, you know, throwing that up on the App store. I know that Google is backing off of a lot of censorship stuff right now with Alphabet. I certainly hope that they change this policy. And by the way, as long as those are up, there should be no federal contracts whatsoever with Apple or with Google. You know, Apple's special little American based iPhone manufacturing facility be damned. No. So that said, there are a couple of other clips circulating on social media that we just don't have time to get to this evening because I did want to touch on one other story that shows very clearly how the left has completely lost, completely lost the American people. So as you will recall, there was a social kind of American trend over the last decade in which media outlets, production companies, movie studios, it's kind of hard to say because Netflix isn't really a movie studio, Apple TV isn't really a movie studio, but a production company, whatever have you a media company that produces short form and long form entertainment they have been shoving down the farthest to the left political trash and trying to pass it off as, as really, really good show, you know, stuff that you really should focus on, that you should pay attention to, that you should take very seriously. And most recently, one of these shows that was getting ready to come out from Apple TV was called the Savant. The Savant was about Jessica Chastain, who by day was a wonderful, hip, happenin mother. And by night she infiltrated right wing social media groups to prevent mass right wing terrorism. Now I want you to watch this trailer because it is truly, truly insane. The, the, the gaslighting here is, is intense. Here you go. Hey kids, come on.
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Tony Kennett
What's she looking at? She's working.
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Producer Nick
She's working.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
I thought this was a no work weekend, mom. Good night.
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Donald Trump
It's going to be uncoordinated mass attack.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
So she, she tucks the kids into bed for those who are listening and she goes up, types into her computer and, and essentially she finds all of this. There's like a rune, it's supposed to be like some kind of like an old Nazi rune. And I don't, I don't know all of the different runes, but. Oh, there's like this, this, this Nordic rune that is the symbol and there's, there's tattoos and text messages and you can see the screen flashing across her glasses. Major attack coming up. Locked and loaded.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
The planet for months. The hunt has begun.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Locked and load. Okay, so again the premise of the show, there are these far right wing groups that are planning these big terrorist attacks. You in or what? So it's not clear if she's baiting the attacks to happen or if she's being asked if she's in on the attack. Because if she's being baited, that's the FBI trying to convince a group of right wing people to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer, Governor of Michigan. Which is why the charges ended up being dropped because the government honey potted guys to try to kidnap a Democrat governor in Michigan. But anywho, the rest of the trailer. Okay, so she's getting ready to type yes. And there is, there's one still shot from this. And try to pause it. Right, There we go. So this shot from this exact part of the trailer became A massive Internet meme all over. For those who are listening, it is Jessica Chastain with like the right wing message boards in the frame of her glasses and she's observing the screen. And it essentially became a meme in which someone would say, wow, right wing people really don't like it when you kill them. Or wow, right wing people really don't, you know, like to be, you know, taxed or thrown into, you know, camps or locked in their houses by the National Guard during COVID or whatever, what have you. And people mocked it relentlessly, you know, as they should. Radio crew, sorry we have to send you off to the end of the evening. We're going to continue over on the live stream. I don't know for how long, but we're going to continue. So join us over there. YouTube.com Daily Signal or Rumble. I'm Tony Kennett and this has been the Tony Kennett cast on the Daily Signal, nationally syndicated and first on 93 WIBC. All right, so Jessica Chastain continuing between 1994 and 2008. Oh, all of these extremist political attacks occur in America today. Unseen heroes protect us from countless more.
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Tony Kennett
What are you doing there? All day, all night? Sometimes.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
I track people who are planning the text.
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Tony Kennett
My job is pretending to think like them to stop those people from doing so.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
There's like, oh, there's, there's these white kids that are grabbing guns and apparently arming bombs and things. Again, it always is like that white guy, no beard, glasses, you know, that's, that's always the villain in this trailer.
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Tony Kennett
Really bad things.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
See, just like a normal white guy in a polo because yeah, that's, that's what all right wing terrorists or just terrorists in general look like. I mean, look at the last several terror attacks. Haven't they all just looked like clean cut young white men? Haven't they all, they haven't looked like weird, transgender creepy obese people, have they? Or weird skinny people that look like the Wicked Witch of the West. Boy, that would be strange.
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Donald Trump
That's why we call her the Savant.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
She's the savant.
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Tony Kennett
Snipers, bombings, ambushes.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
We're on the verge of serious violence. So this was mocked relentlessly because essentially making a show about right wing serious political violence. Well, then it turned out that when the evidence was examined in the stupid article study from the Economist, which lies about the ratio of right wing to left wing political attacks, especially recently when that was finally ruthlessly and hilariously mocked, at long last it was canceled. According to Variety, Apple TV has postponed the premiere of Jessica Chastain's drama series the Savant. And the article itself is just incredible, offering another chilling example of how business giants are running scared of the Trump administration and bowing to pressure before it even exists. Yeah, that's right. So much like, sorry, much like Snow White, Disney's Snow White movie. Much like a bunch of other garbage that people said, you know, this really doesn't look good. And also it's just wrong and they get made fun of for it. Now what the, the Variety, what the left wing media is trying to say is they're making up imaginary stories of Trump using the weight of his administration and no one in the administration had even cared about the show whatsoever. They're pulling it because it sucks. And this again, the Chastain photo of her looking at media and basically being a stupid imbecile who doesn't understand the right and is like, wow, you know, people on the right really don't like it when you shoot a father in cold blood in front of a bunch of college students. Also, you know, all of the left wing terror attacks, you know, deserves to be made fun of. But variety turns it into a conspiracy.
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Producer Nick
Producer Nick I think what really disturbs me most about this is it speaks to how much the left fantasizes about how they want this to be reality.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
They want, they so desperately want it to be right wing people doing the terrorism.
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Producer Nick
Yeah, they want a deep seated, deep state maga white Christian nationalist conspiracy to fight against.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
It was Maxine Waters, representative of California before the election, who said them Republicans are training up there in them hills.
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Producer Nick
I mean, just recently Hillary Clinton, what white Republican Christian men want to dominate?
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Tony Kennett (Host)
So the actual Variety article is truly the hilarious thing. Having watched the eight episode series for review, which was set to be under embargo until September 25, it's clear that the Savant is precisely the type of show America needs right now. It looks at a sector of mostly white male individuals who believe that America belongs to them. Fueled by hate, bigotry, xenophobia and misogyny. They talk cruelly and candidly online about enacting harm and violence towards individuals or others who they feel are unworthy of being in their country. And then, by the way, this is the best part. She, she tries to, very, very briefly here. She, she tries to make it kind of a fair article. Very briefly, listen to this. Nowhere in the show does it mention Donald Trump's name. Other than depicting white nationalists in a negative light. The show only calls Trump a white nationalist. Come on. Incredible. Incredible stuff. And then she blames it on abc. Just wild, wild. The left ignoring any kind of political violence that their side openly perpetuates, openly perpetuates is going to cost them. Case in point. Now in New Jersey, things are not, in fact looking as easy for the Democratic candidate for governor. So first and foremost, according to a new poll by Emerson. Not exactly a Republican pollster here, Mike. Share. Mickey. Excuse me, Mickey. Sheryl, the Democrat candidate is tied 43% with Jack Clarilli at 43%. Up until this point, Mickey had been doing really, really great, really amazing, really incredible former Navy lady, you know, doing some really cool stuff again, kind of that, you know, Jessica Chastain vibe. I'm standing up to the violent. Whatever. Well, you know, it just so happens that. Well, a scandal has now erupted. Democrat Mickey Sherrill was banned at the end of her time as a midshipman from walking with her Naval Academy class due to her participation in a massive cheating scandal that implicated over 130 midshipmen. Now this is, this is what's really great. Cheryl declined to allow the New Jersey Globe to inspect any disciplinary records from her time at the US Naval Academy. Holy crap. Holy crap. The party of transparent and incredible. And we can ask James Comey to, you know, leak them if, you know, we're. Oh, he doesn't have classified clearance anymore. Oh, oh, awkward. Awkward indeed. The last thing that we're going to talk about this evening, I'd love to talk about Trump's comments on Ilhan Omar. I'd love to talk about the guy in Chicago who's whining that ICE has put up a fence. We're going to have to move away from that just again, unfortunately here I do want to pivot to a phenomenal conversation with Newsweek's Josh Hammer over this Washington Post article. Freaking out, freaking out about Secretary of War Pete Hegseth calling in the brass to a meeting in Quantico that they're not telling the public what they're meeting for.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
So incredible stuff, news breaking all the time. And none of this would matter at all unless you had a couple of excellent hosts to hear about the insane news with.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
That's why we brought on Josh Hammer.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
The craziest news demands the best. Best that the senior editor at large Newsweek can offer. I mean, it's just the essence of good content.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Josh, how's it going?
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Josh Hammer
It's going well, my friend. How are you doing? It is always crazy out there, but there's no one better to break it down with than You.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Oh, your check's in the mail.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth has ordered a rare urgent gathering of nearly all generals and admirals in the US Army, Air Force, Marine Corps, Navy and Space Force next week at Quantico in Virginia for currently an unknown reason, according to the Washington Post. So I have no idea what this is for. I'm going to take a wild guess that you probably don't know what this might be for, I really hope, is to just go ahead and take Canada.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Why?
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Co-host or Producer Nick
We're on a roll here. Let me, let me get your thoughts.
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Josh Hammer
Yeah, I mean, we're. We're probably all just totally in the blind on this one, right? I mean, there's. There's zero. Unless you have, like, an incredible source, whether it's Hexath or someone high at the Pentagon south, there's that there's really no way of knowing what's going on. I mean, look, my very first guess, I mean, when I saw this headline is, is this possibly like an actual, like, Chinese Taiwan invasion threat? I mean, that was the very first thing that I thought of there. It kind of beggars belief, though, right? I mean, I was very much of the opinion that Xi Jinping actually probably would make a move on Taiwan in the latter years, the Biden presidency, that. That seemed to me to be the perfect window to do so. While the United States is distracted in the Russian Ukraine theater, while you have an incredibly weak president like Joe Biden, there's so it kind of Baker's belief that she would not make his move during the Biden presidency. And now here in the first year, the Trump presidency go in. So that doesn't really add up either, Tony. Look, I mean, the Canada thing is funny. I mean, how about Greenland? I. I can. You know, that. That whole conversation kind of trailed off.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
Remember, like, early on, we just had somebody to talk about the Greenland thing.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
In all seriousness.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
No, just going. Going ahead and just saying.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
All right. Not because no one's going to do anything.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
Denmark can't even keep its sky search clear of drones. We're just going to take Greenland. Clearly, it's a national security issue. Until you get your drone problem settled, we're just going to take it for now.
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Josh Hammer
Yeah, I mean, I'm like, I'm unironically into the Greenland thing. It was actually. I mean, it was. Yeah. No, I mean, Tom Cotton is a very serious guy. Tom Connen is not like a joking guy. You know, infantry, Iraq and so forth there. I mean, he wrote this op ed back in the First Trump term was like a 2019, 2020 piece for the New York Times saying, yes, we should actually try to acquire Greenland. There's a very, very legitimate case there that. But the Canada thing's a funny troll. And I mean, basically, I mean, let's be real, Tony. I mean, screw Canada, right? I mean, screw Canada under this current.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
I'll give you all of it.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
But Alberta, I mean, again, Alberta being the, the, the spiritual northern Indiana I have a special place in my heart for. But the rest of it, yeah, to hell with it. I don't really care for it at all.
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Josh Hammer
No, Alberta's beautiful. It's got, it's got, it's got amazing oil. I mean, I love where your heart is on that. No, I mean, like, you know, Tony, the comparison that I've heard is actually that, that Alberta is kind of like the Texas of Canada. I mean, they have the stampede in.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
Calgary, so the Texans would have you believe.
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Josh Hammer
But no, Greenland is actually a very, very compelling case there. But honestly, I mean, this was, this was a crazy headline. I have no idea. I mean, like you, I'm obviously itching to hear about. I genuinely, I pray it's not Taiwan emergency because that, that could get, that, that could get bad in a hurry, to be honest with you.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
Now, I do want to talk kind of long term consequences out of this though.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
And it fits.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
Just so happens that initial headline fits into this. Do you think that Jeffrey Goldberg is kind of kicking himself a little bit at the atl, leaking the big signal chat too soon? I mean, he had what arguably could be conceived a pretty open window into maybe some internal situations and he blew it. To talk about, you know, texting in the Middle East, I mean, yikes.
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Josh Hammer
No, I mean, look, Jeffrey Goldberg should probably be kicking himself on a daily basis for sheer fact that he is Jeffrey Goldberg for something. I mean, for the fact that, I mean, there was literally no one who laundered Barack Obama's heinous, reprehensible foreign policy to the masses more than Jeffrey Goldberg did. So, I mean, he, he, he has a long and inglorious track record. In fact, Tony, you'll actually get a chuckle out of this. Jeffrey Goldberg was actually one of my first high profile blocks on Twitter back when I probably only had a few, a few hundred followers. This is, this, this is actually literally like, I think like over a decade ago. And the humorous reason for. Is because I just repeatedly kept on calling him Barack Obama's court Jew, which, you know, I mean, as someone who's Jewish myself, I, you Know, I could get away with. Jeffrey Goldberg was not having it, though, so. So he's actually blocking for literally over a decade. So, I mean, totally screwed that guy. But yeah, I mean, he probably did kind of, kind of shoot his, his article a little too soon because based on what we're seeing here with this hexa thing, I mean, Aquatico, I mean, Goldberg, Colbert could have been in a pretty, pretty, pretty big scoop if he hadn't just gone, you know, you know, totally gonzo over the Houthi stuff in Yemen back in March.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
And there's really are again, we're now in the part of. We're almost a year since the election of 24. We're getting to that point now. I'm starting to, over the last year, where there were opportunities for those who wanted to remain a part of the national conversation that's taken seriously. I think of Jake Tapper, I think of Alex Thompson, who for a sheer shining small moment, even if the motives were very sketchy, they had the opportunity to come out and say, look, guys, we participated in something that the American people openly despise. You know, there's a call for change here. We need to do something different. And now who do we see on the front lines of freaking out about Jimmy Kimmel? Here's Jake Tapper trotting him out all.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Over media, going, well, I think this.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
Is the biggest crackdown on free speech I can ever remember ever, in all of history. It's like, dude, don't honk the clown nose at the same time you're speaking. It's difficult to discern the two from each other.
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Josh Hammer
You know, there's a lot of confusion when it comes to the First Amendment, like, what does it mean, what does not mean? So I think we probably should just do like a very basic kind of explainer. It's like what the First Amendment actually says, what it does not say when it comes to government censorship of speech. So look, if you are speaking on a public sidewalk, if you are speaking in a, in a public park, if you are going into the Boston Commons in Boston, Massachusetts, both in colonial times and today, the government cannot censor you. They cannot criminally prosecute you based on what comes out of your mouth. But you have no right, you have no affirmative right to use your speech in any particular medium other than those which are literal public property, they there. So when it comes to abc, which is a private corporation, and specifically the three broadcast companies, abc, cbs, NBC, have a somewhat unique regulatory structure. It literally goes back, Tony, to the New Deal, all this is kind of new. It's New Deal legal regulations, regulatory framework. So you know, the Democrats, the liberals who are freaking out over what happened to Jimmy Kimmel, they probably might want to take it up with the FDR presidency. Right. Which is kind of, you're going to.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
Say, yeah, regulated very similarly to the Tennessee Valley Authority in the way that we regulated waterways under fdr. The regulatory language is the same. Someone in the Daily Signal was asking me the other day about how well, you know, what about the FCC equal time rule, which again coming from the 80s, but regarding propositions from California, would this apply? It's like, no, believe it or not, regulatory language is not that magical and deep. It's written by a lot of people who didn't really know what they were doing and is now upheld by people who, who from time to time don't really know what they're doing. And so the idea that people are almost treating regulatory structure right now as though they're Latin phrases used in court, does that make any sense?
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Because I have some like lurker might say, oh yes, habeas corpus.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
The same way that they'll cite like the Fairness Doctrine in the FCC regulations. It's really weird.
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Josh Hammer
Yeah, but look, I mean the statute that brought the FCC into existence, that still to this day regulates cbsnbc. I mean, to be clear, the FCC has broad regulatory ambit, but the specific part of it that has to deal with the broadcast companies, cbs, NBC, ABC refers as you have alluded already to the public interest there. So look, I mean either the statute references the public interest or it does not. The goal of a regulatory body, including a quote unquote independent one. And we can have that whole separate conversation. I happen to think that the entire notion of a so called independent agency is here, there and everywhere unconstitutional. But holding that aside, the goal of the agencies in this case the chairman, Brendan Carr and the fellow commissioners is to implement the statute. They have a law that they are going to work off of there.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
The law is already written. Their job is to uphold it. It is an executive agency.
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Josh Hammer
Yes. So if your issue is with this public interest notion there, then take it up with Congress. I mean take it up literally with the 1930s era New Deal Congress there. So Jimmy Kimmel does not have a First Amendment right to say whatever he wants to say on ABC's Late Night program. He has that.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
Especially when it comes to the reporting of information, information on crimes and natural disasters. Those two things specifically via I believe not just the statute, but also legal precedent.
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Josh Hammer
Yeah, no, look, I Mean, one of the huge purposes of AM radio traditionally, certainly when it comes to broadcast TV networks, is to get the message out there really, above all for natural disasters. But yeah, when it comes to crime potentially in your community, in your town as well, you can't just make stuff up about that. And when Jimmy Kimmel was talking about when he was trying to gaslight his viewers by saying that Charlie Kirk's assassin. Assassin was, was maga. I. It was not disputed point. I mean, we literally knew that he was not the sheriff out in Utah. Governor Cox, we knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that this was a, a classic left wing university campus indoctrination campaign. So he was blatantly spewing misinformation. I have to be honest with you, Tony. I'm a little surprised at just how quickly Jimmy Kimmel has gotten back on the air. I, I was off for, for the, I was off for the Russia Shunah Jewish holiday got back on. I was like, oh my God, Jimmy Kimmel's back on. That didn't last very long. So I'm a little surprised by that, to be honest.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
Hey, all it takes is a, you know, an angry left wing guy firing into a lobby of an, of an ABC affiliate in Sacramento. I will, I will give at least at this moment. Again, this, this could change, of course, by the time that this airs when you have Sinclair and Nexar. I was very surprised to see Nexar still kind of upholding this. No Kimmel, thank you. I saw his little tear filled monologue where he didn't actually apologize, he just.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Said, oh, you don't know my heart.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
It reminds me of there. We used to joke about this in youth group when I was growing up that there were these, these teen girls who would live however they wanted. And then when you would say, look, I don't think, you know, like God wants you to be a, you know, like you're out here sleeping around. That's not something you're supposed to do in our faith. And they're like, well, God knows my heart. And like, that would solve it. Like, well, you're not my judge. That's what Kimmel did. He walked up and goes, I actually have lots of friends on the right. They're in Canada right now. You don't know them.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Like it's, it's ridiculous.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
The, the nonsense is so fake and phony.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
No one's buying it.
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Josh Hammer
Yeah, I mean, this is kind of like the old, like, I'm not Reese's because I have black French dick. Right. I Mean that that's like, that's basically exactly what Jimmy Kimmel is pulling here. Like, oh my God, like I'm not just trying to blame everything on Mag. Oh my God, look at me. I have MAGA friends. I, I mean, first of all, like, literally, no you don't. You're probably just doubling down your lies that he probably doesn't have a single person in his social circle who actually fits that, who actually fits that description there. But look, I, you know, a lot of folks are making this out to be a debate over so called cancel culture. Tony, I'd actually be curious for your thoughts on this. I have actually long been of the opinion that the right has made a tactical mistake in taking up the mantle of cancel culture. I actually don't really believe in such things as cancel culture for the very simple reason that there, that there are here, there and everywhere going to be views that actually cannot and should not be aired. The question is always a prudential one as to where to draw the line. So for instance, if you have a third grade teacher who's praising Hitler and the Nazis, it's not canceled, it's not cancel culture to fire that teacher. Like you obviously just can't have that in the classroom there, right? So it's always a question as to, as to where you draw the line. And bring you back to the current example here. When it comes to the chairman of the sec, Brendan Carr, he's being asked to implement this statute that calls for abc, cbs, NBC, operate in the public interest there. It's not a question of principle, it's a question of prudence as to whether or not this actually meets the threshold of violating the public trust. Given the extraordinarily high profile nature of my late friend Charlie Kirk's assassination, given the fact that the President, the Vice President, so many people flew out there from Memorial there, I would say spewing blatant misinformation from abc, not like an obscure cable job on abc. I would argue that actually he probably does meet the threshold of public interest, which kind of, again, why I was surprised that he ended up getting back on the air.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
So, so to answer the question, kind of my thoughts on the entire cancel culture argument, I think that it's really silly. The reason I think it's silly is that there's been this weird fetishization on the right that came in through kind of this libertarian movement that as long as we just say everyone has to totally play by the same rules, everything's free, everything is permitted, everyone, every view.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
Is just as good as the other.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
There's no culture that's objectively better than the other. You know, there's no story that's objectively better than the other. There's no language that's objectively better or worse than other language, than everyone would play by the rules and no one would use that against the rest of society. And that was a very stupid decision then, It's a stupid decision now. And the reason I say the fetishization of the Overton window is because the creator of the term the Overton window up from Mackinac Institute in Michigan, he warned about this exact thing happening where essentially the far left would utilize the cancel culture, the edges of the window, to keep things in, and then they would just shift where the window was so that everything that is good and wholesome and true is now canceled and removed from their new weird, hedonistic Overton window. The fact of the matter of this, if you're wearing lingerie to read to children, you're a bad person. Objectively, I don't want you in public wearing that. You want to do that in your own home, not around children. Stare at yourself in a mirror. That is another conversation entirely. As long as I don't have to see it, whatever. But if you were bringing that into the public square again, to what you're talking about, the commons in the park.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
No, you don't have a right to do that.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
I don't have to sit here and pretend that these ideas that are directly against the common sense Judeo Christian ethic that has been commonly understood, we all know it based on common sense, what things are good and what things are not good. This weird pretend that we're trying to. I say, this is some of the moderates in the right, the rhinos, who have recently been saying after every shooting, well, let's wait.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
We need to be very careful before.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
We suggest a motive or any kind of. Again, the idea that we need to forgive. Anytime the left says we're going to kill half the country, they're disappearing people, we need to fight back and kill them and treat that as the same as someone on the right going, you know, I really have an issue with like the radical Islamic terror that's pretty prevalent. Like, the equivocacy of that.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
It's a false.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
It's a false equivalence.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
So, yeah, I don't believe in the.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
Idea of cancel culture.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
You get out there and you say.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
I think it's great that he died and I won't want awful things for his widow. And his children enjoy the unemployment line. I simply don't care.
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Josh Hammer
No, I think that's emphatically correct. I've been saying this for years. I mean, you have the right.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
Yes, you have, consistently.
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Josh Hammer
I appreciate that. I mean, you have the right to speak your mind when it comes to public property. If your private employer is cool with you saying whatever, then you have the right to do that, I suppose within the confines of your contractual agreement with your employer. But if at any time that employer decides to take, take action against you for saying something that is so contrary to the company's values or common sense or just basic human decency, there, that is justice. You know, that is not cancel culture. That is, that is, that is literally the proper result of someone saying something horrific or doing something horrific that simply, that simply should not be done there. So again, you know, taking it back to Jimmy Kimmel again. If he wants to get on the public sidewalk, he wants to go to the public park and he wants to say whatever crazy stuff he can, unless he's imminently inciting violence or various other dispensations to First Amendment jurisprudence, that's fine. He can basically go ahead and say that. But when it comes to the privilege of having a late night show on ABC move America's major broadcast channels, that is explicitly regulated to be in the public interest there, you don't have a First Amendment right to spew blatant misinformation about a horrific high profile political assassination that threatens to tear this country further aside again.
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Co-host or Producer Nick
And I'm going to bring this back to the what's good for the goose is good for the gander here. My show is on FCC regulated spectrum radio and TV airwaves, what we used to call the analog, now I guess TV being pseudo digital, that is on FCC regulated airwaves. When I'm on air, I have to follow those rules. If I don't like it, then I can go broadcast somewhere other than regulated spectrum. And again, I agree with you. If you don't like that, take it up with Congress, who at this time of the year is usually busy trying to tell us how good a job they've done for all of the nothing that they've accomplished. So. So, you know, one of those magical things. Josh Hammer, thanks a ton for stopping on as always. Again, check out his work over at Newsweek. Also Israel and Civilization, phenomenal book, Very highly recommended.
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Josh Hammer
Tony, you're mensch. Thank you, my friend.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
All right, we've got just very briefly in the extra bonus side of the show here, something that I wanted to kind of update the crew on first and foremost regarding some new information we have about former FBI Director James Comey's indictments. We do have the official text on the indictments now in the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, Count one, false statements within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch of the United States government, 18 U.S. codes code section 1001, sub parentheses A2. And then count number two, obstruction of a congressional proceeding. And then that's 18 U.S. code section 1505. And I'm going to read that one. On or about September 30, 2020, in the Eastern District of Virginia, the defendant, James Comey Jr. Did corruptly endeavor to influence, obstruct and impede the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which an investigation was being had before the Senate Judiciary Committee by making false and misleading statements before that committee. That is going to open up a lot of stuff in discovery and it is going to be one hoot to watch. One other thing and there this is being shared around. I have seen enough people share it that I am I'm going to share it with a proviso here. So this is from alx over on the social media platform X. He posts a an apparent screenshot of a letter saying that James Comey's son in law, being Troy A. Edwards, Jr. Has now resigned his position as Assistant U.S. attorney after the former FBI Director's indictment. And in this case, again, TROY A. EDWARDS, Jr. That being James Comey, former FBI Director, son in law, assistant, former, I should say now, former Assistant U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia. This screenshot of the of the letter, it says, you know, dear Ms. Halligan, to uphold my oath to the Constitution and country, I hereby resign as an Assistant United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia in the Department of Justice, effective immediately. I cannot at this point independently confirm the veracity of this letter. It has been shared by a lot of individuals who I believe in my own research usually do their very well due diligence on these things. If this is not in fact correct or true, well, we'll note that on tomorrow night's show. So that is a little advisement on that particular thing. All right. That takes care of the Comey stuff. Regarding Jimmy Kimmel, I got a couple of interesting questions during the interview itself airing with Aaron. Why are we still talking about Kimmel? Why is he relevant? I'm glad you asked, because during the preparation for the show, one of the things we were planning to lead off with is a series of political Messages and statements from past and present Democrat officials who are arguing that Nextar and Sinclair, who are major spectrum affiliates, they own a lot of stations across the country. Specifically they own a lot of ABC affiliate stations across the country. They have continually refused even though ABC has brought Jimmy Kimmel back. About a third of Jimmy Kimmel's previous stations that he appeared on are still keeping him off air again at this present time. I believe I, Sinclair or nexstar may bring him back. So far I don't think that they have. But there are Democrat officials who are now saying that Sinclair and Nexar car need to be broken up, which is a little weird because it was these same Democrat officials who when in the very short window that Kimmel was off all air were saying that the Trump administration had overstepped their bounds by Brendan Carr at the FCC getting involved. So which is it? According to Bernie Sanders? He made the tweet. Oh, I have the wrong tweet ready. I'm gonna have to make sure that I get it up. So good old Bernie Bernal Sanders over here tweeted, and I quote, decisions about what Americans watch shouldn't be dictated by political pressure. Nexstar must immediately restore Jimmy Kimmel to viewers in Vermont and across the US Broadcasters should not cave in to an authoritarian type president who can't accept criticism. Someone bring me my pudding and aoc. I want to see AOC again. I was on Twitter across the edge, Bernie Sanders coming out in front of the public and lecturing them. Decisions about what Americans watch shouldn't be dictated by political pressure. And then proceeding to apply political pressure as the senator from Vermont, the very senior senator from Vermont saying nexstar must immediately restore Jimmy Kimmel to viewers in Vermont and across the US that is in fact political pressure.
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Producer Nick
Pressure.
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Tony Kennett (Host)
What is good for the goose should in fact be good for the gander. And this can go really one of two ways. In the next couple of days, in the next couple of weeks and months. May I say there are some fellow colleagues and pundits, broadcasters on the right who have cautioned against the using the rules that are available right now because the left is going to act exactly as they have promised and have, have once again are promising to act when they return to power. They are cautioning that as kind of a never ending war that will not end with kind of the US and Soviet agreement not to nuke each other. I don't think that's decided yet. I don't think that there are a totality of individuals on the left in The United States who have decided they are ready to quote, unquote, end it all, throw all of the punches, launch the nukes. I think that it does require the right utilizing the rules of the game. The rules we are playing by. Again, you, you and I may not like certain rules of Monopoly, but when we are playing Monopoly you can be sure shoot and fire there bar brother, that I'm going to play with every single rule in the book to win the game. Otherwise, what are you doing? So that stuff set and aside, hopefully that answer is why we're still talking about Kimmel a couple of days later. I do want to issue a special bit of thanks that something that took me very out of surprise this evening. Several individuals watching the show when I made the comment earlier that we had gone a minute over time and could in fact be the recipient of an FCC fine. Which by the way is true. And I made sure to look that up just just to make sure. FCC regulations like FCC fines regarding not staying inside time on FCC regulated air. That's not a case. That's a case by case basis kind of a fine. So there are some stations and there are some programs that are only supposed to operate in daytime, some in nighttime. There are some that are supposed to stay within certain commercial bounds. A lot of this is is dictated in regions that are very close to the time zones. Anywho, those fines could be between 200 to $400 to there was a Florida AM radio station not too long ago that was fined four grand for failing to cut its air off at a specific time. That is we've never been charged $4,000 or anything like that. So the reason I bring that up is that a flood of super chats, which are donations with a little chat message attached, started popping up in the YouTube chat and they started very quickly talking about an FCC fine. And so to be very clear, so there is no confusion, we have not yet been hit with any kind of an FCC fine. We might be with an FCC fine if I play fast and loose with the rules when we are during our broadcast time slot from 7pm Eastern to 8pm Eastern or really should I say between 7:06 and 5 seconds Eastern time and 7 oh what is it? Oh now I'm going to be. Oh 7:55 no 7:57:20 is our closeout time. So if I don't follow those rules I can't get a fine. Haven't been hit with one yet. But I wanted to thank the following individuals for their their super chats, their donations this evening if for nothing else because we don't try to solicit donations or channel memberships or things but we really do appreciate those who do. Very, very kind of you. And it was very overwhelming to see those kind of flood in this evening to 15 off Applebee's gift card. That's the guy in the pre show who I called a Tylenol American and a fine member of the Discord as well. Very much thank you for the ten dollars donation. Marine Mom, Texas. Also the two dollar donation. Annie Wright, the five dollar donation. Glenn Gardner, the ten dollar donation, Starch Manning, five dollars. Kurt B, five dollars. Longtime listener, first time donor. Very, very kind of you. The name Chungus. Bo bingus. Great. $5. Very kind. And then Doug Ermer, $5 as well. Very, very kind of you guys to do that. You don't have to do that. It's just something that we, it's very kind. We appreciate it. It's a joy to get to come on and do the show even when it is hectic and they indict someone right before we go on air. Really appreciate you guys. We'll be back tomorrow same time, hopefully with less breaking news. Don't count on it. I'm Tony Kennett and this has been the Tony Kinit cast on the Daily Signal, nationally syndicated, first on 93 WIBC. Take care.