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Ep. 422 - FBI Caught Spying on Senators, GOP Governors Ready National Guard for Chicago & Portland
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While federal judges play ping-pong on decisions regarding the California & Oregon National Guards, Republican governors like Greg Abbott announce companies of National Guardsmen to deploy at the Trump administration's request to Chicago and Portland.
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Tony Kennett, host of the Tony Kennett cast. Let's get down to business. You're listening to the Tony Kennett cast on 93WibcyTV here on the Daily Signal. Good evening and welcome to the Tony Kenned cast here on the Daily Signal, nationally syndicated, first on 93 WIBC. Let's dig right in. We have a major scandal out from Senator Chuck Grassley's office. Chuck Grassley has essentially become the keeper of the whistleblowers. Every couple of weeks he goes out in front of the cameras and reveals a series of documents straight from the filing cabinet of your favorite feds to announce that they were doing the very things that Republicans were accusing them of doing. This latest is that the FBI, at the request of Jack Smith and Biden's Department of Justice, were tapping and analyzing the phone calls and records of Senators Mike Kelly, Lindsey Graham, Bill Hagarty, Josh Hawley, Dan Sullivan, Tommy Tuberville, Ron Johnson, Cynthia Loomis and Marsha Blackburn. Excuse me, that's Mike Kelly, not Mark Kelly. The difference matters there. We actually have the statement from Senator Chuck Grassley. And then I believe he kicks it right over to Senator Johnson. This makes Watergate look like child's play.
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Solicitation of these telephone records, which I think emphasizes the political weaponization that was behind all this effort. And we, we're still getting more information, but we've released some records today. And I'll let Senator Johnson take over from here and then each one of you colleagues can join in when you want to, whatever you want to say. First of all, I want to thank Senator Grassley. It is because of his relentless advocacy for whistleblowers that a lot of this information is surfacing right now. We wouldn't know about the list of 100 Republican entities that were targeted by Jack Smith's Arctic Frost investigation. I don't think we know about this as well. So we need whistleblowers. I think Dan Bongino and folks in the FBI, they don't know where all the records are hidden. They still don't. They're not necessarily getting hundred percent cooperation. But this is outrageous what has happened. I just want to give you a timeline. This I think you've already got the, the FBI sheet that shows the number of members of Congress that were targeted. Representative Kelly Sanders, Graham Haggerty, Holly Sullivan, Tuberville, myself, Senator Lummis and Blackburn. This memo was dated September of 2023. To put it all into context. The Mar A Lago raid occurred in August of 2022. Jack Smith announced the indictments against President Trump in August of 2023. So this is almost two months later. They're casting this net, this fishing, fishing exit expedition.
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Tony Kennett
That's insane. That is truly, unfetteredly insane that the, the Jack Smith team, essentially, after being given the green light from Merrick Garland's team as Attorney General at the Department of Justice under the Biden administration, decided that they were not only going to use this investigation to go after Trump, but eight different senators. That is illegal. You can't do that. I can't encourage law enforcement to target an individual and then use that as some type of a coordinated effort to go after you, me and Dupree, anyone that I decide to fall into said net. It is also very much not allowed. You are not allowed to do so. The FBI answers to Congress, not the other way around. And yet here we are. It is a very disturbing thing that, by the way, after the investigation was concluded, no memo was, was released. No indication why, because that would have looked horrible in the 2024 election. All of the accusations from the Trump campaign, all of the accusations from Republican campaigns around the country, the Biden administration weaponized the Department of Justice and its ancillary Alphabet organizations like the F to go after political opponents, is true. And what was the rationale behind this? What? That Senator Ron Johnson might have taken calls regarding January 6, that Donald Trump was confiding in him about classified documents. That's ridiculous. And you and I know it's ridiculous. And by the way, as far as the, the congressional evidence is concerned here, this is grounds for Jack Smith, in fact, to be arrested. This is grounds for jet. You can't just tap senators phones. You can't order that. There's no kind of a warrant system for that in place. Who's going to accept, who's going to agree with that warrant or the Supreme Court of the United States? This is why these independent prosecutorial investigations always get real hairy real quickly, because who do they answer to? They have to answer to someone. So we're going to be giving more information out of that. I do believe that when Senator Johnson later said that every American should be concerned about this, he is right on.
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The money solicitation of these telephone records, which I think emphasizes the political weaponization that was behind all this effort.
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Tony Kennett
Absolutely correct from Grassley. Again, it appears right now in this country that there is a series of senators and representatives in Congress along with again, the general scope FBI that is concerned with institutional trust. Well, if you're going to be concerned with institutional trust, then there have to be consequences for when people use those institutions politically. If there are not consequences, no one is going to feel the need to just walk back to the other side of the line and go, okay, promise I'm never going to do it again. And then stay there. Now that brings us to the situations that are developing in Chicago and in Portland. So over the weekend on October 4th, there was a very disturbing attempted attack by a group of individuals in a premeditated coordinated assault. Maramar Martinez and Santos Ruiz. Anthony Ian Santos Ruiz, excuse me, struck a border Patrol vehicle, rammed it with their, with their vehicles and attempted to box the vehicle in. Miramar Martinez in the vehicle with her had a loaded semiautomatic rifle. This was a coordinated attack on federal agents in Chicago completely as a result of the increased rhetoric and the hampering from both the Chicago police forces in the mayor's office as well as the governor of Illinois and the legacy media that has been amplifying claims of disappearing people and other kinds of nonsense. Now, after she struck the vehicle, this is according to Trisha McLaughlin. This morning, during routine patrolling in Broadview just outside of Chicago, in the same area of Chicago that law enforcement were assaulted yesterday, our law enforcement officers were rammed by vehicles and boxed in by 10cars. 10cars is not some little accidental whoopsie. That is a coordinated effort of terrorism. There is no other definition for it. Agents were unable to move their vehicles and they exited the car. One of the drivers who ran the law enforcement vehicles was armed with a semi automatic weapon. Law enforcement was forced to deploy their weapons and fire defensive shots at an armed US Citizen who drove herself later to the hospital to get care for her wounds. This would be Miramar Martinez. They have now been arrested. Now they faced 22 years in prison and $350,000 in fines each. And that's just with the the particular series of charges that are being levied so far. This gets a lot worse really quickly. First of all, because the immediate reaction from the crowd was to start rioting immediately after. They're starting to follow the ICE officials, the Border Patrol officials, and chant shooter, murderer and call for violence against those agents. Now, for anyone who has worked in law enforcement before, this is the time when all law enforcement should be dispatched to the area to set up a perimeter and to re establish order. Again, there has been a serious car accident. At the very least. At the very least, there have been vehicles rammed into other vehicles yet in the Midst of this growing riot, according to several reports now, a dispatch order was sent out saying on Oct 4, 2025 at 12:34pm quote, Please, Chief of patrol, no units will respond to this as related. Because again, the ICE agents, at this point, the border patrol agents were requesting assistance because they are surrounded and the crowd is getting angrier. And you can see those who are watching the live stream. One, approximately 30 armed Border Patrol agents, ICE who are being surrounded by a large crowd of people are requesting Chicago police department. The response. No units will respond to this as related. That is. That is horrifying. Radio crew, sorry, we have to send you to commercial. We're going to continue on the live stream. It's the Tony Kenned cast. Now, Chicago's police superintendent then came out and denied that this ever happened at all as, oh, this was just some type of. Some phantom figment of the imagination. So here was the superintendent trying to walk this back and deny it. T7 Good afternoon, Superintendent. @ any time, maybe you can clear this up too.
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At any time on Saturday, were CPD.
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Tony Kennett
Officers told by dispatchers to stand down?
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Well, I don't know about them being told by dispatchers. There was some communication between boots on the ground, a supervisor and the chief of patrol. So there.
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Tony Kennett
That makes no sense at all. She said, okay, there was a communication that went out on the dispatch, by the way, for. For the. For the boys, girls and squirrels that are paying attention to such things. This message is the dispatch that I'm displaying on the screen. This would be the dispatch. He's saying, oh, well, there was some communication going on. Boots on the ground and supervisors and stuff. Why is it written on the dispatch log? That is. Again, that is like me, they're. They're the police showing up to my house and going, so you said a threatening letter to senator so and so's office. And I said, well, I was talking with my friends, you know, and we were just hanging out and I may have said some things privately. No, it's on the logs.
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Was some communication by phone. There was something that was put out there that there was an internal message that came from the chief of patrol. That is absolutely not true.
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Tony Kennett
Huh. Internal message put out something from the chief of patrol. Let's see, October 25th or 24th of October 25th. Please, Chief of patrol. No units will respond to this as related. Wait a minute. That looks like the chief of patrol to me.
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Superintendent, there is no internal message. There was a phone conversation. I'm not sure until we get to our after action. All of the exact language that was there. But I have had a conversation with the chief of patrol who was concerned about officers showing up on the scene. The chief of patrol at that time had no information that anyone was in danger. And let me just be clear about one other thing when it comes to. To these federal agents.
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Here we go.
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Federal agents can handle themselves.
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Tony Kennett
Oh, they can handle themselves. Ah, yes, of course. Ah. Because that's, that's really what what chiefs of police and superintendents want if there are individuals that are operating upholding some kind of a law in their jurisdiction. Yes, of course. We all know how lax police officers are with jurisdiction, aren't they? Producer Nick why I've never seen a copy or a federal agent or a statewide agent suggests that they were totally fine with other individuals operating freely. No problems. That doesn't sound like 800 lawsuits waiting to happen. He was pressed on this by the reporters, by the way. When you are in Chicago and reporters are pressing on you like this, I believe the proper phrase is you done goofed. So here's the superintendent being pressed.
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Trimming.
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Nice, Carolina. Yes.
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Good to meet you, Caroline.
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So the feds called for help at 12:28pm There's a computer message time stamped.
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At 12:28pm that says no units will respond.
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Tony Kennett
The dispatchers later captured on audio saying that she's waving off units from 39th and Kenzie. Oh, now there's audio.
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Mm.
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Boy, this is looking worse and worse for Chicago's police by the second. I am wondering if.
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What would you call that if not a stand down? And if there were already enough units.
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On scene, how many were there?
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Circa 1228.
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Well, that's 30pm that's something else that we have to look at and we have to see what. Because sometimes what you hear on the radio does not necessarily reflect what's happening on the ground once someone's there. But we did have officers over there. We have a timeline and a breakdown of who responded. And if you listen to the radio transmission, there were multiple officers who said they were going to that location. And they showed up because that's what CPD does when they hear that someone's in danger.
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Tony Kennett
But they didn't do that. He's trying to have it every single way that he can possibly get his hands on, but there's no room for him to move here. And by the way, he gets completely undercut after Brandon Johnson later on, his civil war tirade ends up just confirming that, yeah, they were told not to get around or mess with anything like this. So the superintendent's just a, you know, big fat liar.
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Confirming the reports that Chicago police were.
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Ordered to stand down when ICE agents were surrounded and rammed by cars. And do you want Chicago police not to help ICE agents?
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Our police officers respond to every single emergency in this city. The brave women and men who sign up to serve and protect this city are.
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We're going to get to there. There's a. A. But in this particular case, we're going to get to here. We got to bring the radio crew back from commercial. Don't go anywhere. It's the Tony Kenneth cast.
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It's the Tony Kenneth cast on 93 WIPC.
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All right. Welcome back to the Tony Kinnid cast. The mayor of Chicago decided to completely undercut his superintendent of police. There's a reason that Brandon Johnson in Chicago has a whopping 6% approval rating, and it's because the man's feet live inside his mouth. That's gotta be dastardly for dental. And his podiatrist. So here we go. Brandon Johnson undercutting his cops by saying, well, yes, but no. But yes, but no.
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Confirming the reports that Chicago police were.
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Ordered to stand down when ICE agents were surrounded and rammed by cars.
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And do you want Chicago police not.
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To help ICE agents?
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Our police officers respond to every single emergency in this city. The brave women and men who sign up to serve and protect this city are committed to keeping us safe. And what we have made very clear is to our welcoming city ordinance when it comes to civil immigration enforcement.
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Tony Kennett
Here we go.
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Absent a warrant, our police department will not dub as federal ICE agents. In fact, we believe it's antithetical to driving violence down in the city of Chicago.
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Tony Kennett
So did you see the pivot? The pivot is, well, we respond to all calls here in the city, but also we will not assist in immigration enforcement operations. Guys, there was, first of all, a car accident that you should have been on the scene of because it's a car accident on the streets. Very, very, very basic. It's not 1902 or actually 1905 in Ohio when there were only two automobiles in the state and they got in a car accident with each other, and there's like, oh, we have no. We have nothing. We don't know what to do here. No, this is in Chicago, 2025. There's a car accident on the street. Officers, in fact, do roll up to the scene, as does Triple A. Fun fact here. But in regard to Brandon Johnson saying, well, we're not going to assist in an enforcement operation. Federal agents were Boxed in. In an active domestic terror situation.
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When people call 911 we do not ask what their immigration status is.
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Tony Kennett
That doesn't have anything to do with anything. There were officers requesting assistance from CPD because there was a car accident and there was a woman who again, they are engaged in defensive fire. They're blocked in. One of the ladies at least has an automatic, a semi automatic rifle. All right, that's a problem.
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Right. And so our police department will respond to every incident in services are needed to keep people safe, protecting the fundamental right to be able to protest. Ensuring the maximum safety of our, of our, of our residents. That is the top.
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Tony Kennett
He couldn't say citizens. He wanted to say of our citizens. He can't say citizens because a lot of these people aren't citizens of the city of Chicago or the state of Illinois or these United States of America.
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Already of our administration. Can you confirm though were Chicago police told to stand down? What I can confirm is that our police department responds to every single 911 call. When 911 is there's an emergency, our police department shows up, as they've always done.
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Tony Kennett
But they didn't. In fact, they didn't show up and they were told not to. So he, he says no, and then he says yes, and then he says, oh, well, actually this is my official statement, which is what you're seeing with Democrats on the shutdown right now. It's okay, well what about this one clause that says illegal immigrants get money in the health proposals and also states that are spending fungible funds sent to their state on illegal immigrant programs. And then what do Democrats do? They get out the index cards and they're like, well, according to this right here, it says no one gets it. That's the laws. It's not what I asked you under this particular bill, does it allow for this? They won't answer the question anytime. Someone will not just directly answer the question. There should be some red flags popping up. Well, if you're in the mood for red flags, good. Sweet Moses in a basket floating down the Nile. Do we have the ultimate red flag for you straight out of the Chaz, the Seattle autonomous zone that Antifa set up that did so swimmingly with their garden of tomato plants and pot in the mud. Well, now Chicago is going to have ice free zones. Brandon Johnson took a swig of bourbon, I assume, before stumbling up and essentially just going right into full civil war messaging. Here it is, ice free zones. Brandon Johnson.
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And today we are signing an executive order aimed at reining in this out of control administration. The order establishes ice free zones. That means that city property and unwilling private businesses will no longer serve as staging grounds for these raids.
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Tony Kennett
Okay, now, on its face, does Brandon Johnson have the authority in the Illinois Constitution or the US Constitution to do so? No, he has no authority to do that. This carries the same weight as Michael Scott declaring bankruptcy in the office. He has no ability to say, well, the city's not gonna allow federal agents on city, Federal, city, city ground. Yeah, that's not a thing. We fought a very large war over that JB Pritzker, who given his weight and his new Civil War esque tendencies, he also tried to back Johnson up on this, saying that he was gonna try to enforce these ice free zones and not allow federal troops in Illinois on certain lines. You know, suing the government over Trump, wanting to send in some National Guard just to protect federal buildings and troops, who again, are currently engaging in the defense against domestic terror activity. Pritzker is just going all Jefferson Davis, or in the case of his weight, Hefferson Davis. We have solved this particular thing already in the country. The National Guard has been deployed and not to mention federal agents have been deployed to city property a heck of a whole lot in different investigations in the upholding of federal law. I will remind you one of the most famous examples of federal law enforcement overruling local jurisdiction. Although I know this is, you know, a Hollywood example, the Fugitive with Harrison Ford, Tommy Lee Jones, that takes place in the state of Illinois. Guys, federal law enforcement overrides local law enforcement all the time. You're not gonna win this. So what does Brandon Johnson do? He decides to, I guess just do three shots of vodka. He's gonna step it up a little bit and just call very openly that, good lord, we're in civil war.
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I said very candidly that the right wing in this country wants a rematch of the Civil War. I just, I want that to sit in right now because the President of the United States of America has declared war on the people of Chicago and people across America.
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Tony Kennett
That is an insane thing to say is an elected official. That is an insane. The President has declared war. You have people right now who have bricks, Molotov cocktails, guns. Chicago is a gun haven for illegal guns, not for legal firearms. There is a serious amount of violence. There are people who are currently being given, as several pundits have said, the permission structure. They're being given the legal standing. We're going to get to that. Regarding Portland here in a minute. You have federal judges and city Mayors that are giving permission for people to act violently, they are denying any possibility of condemning, of charging those who act in an openly violent manner. That is, if it's political in nature and it's a means of intimidating through that. Crime is also terrorism. Forget the politics for a second. Forget everything for just a second and hear me out. That is an insane thing to say. Forget the historical awkwardness of this, that it's the Republicans who won the Civil War and that the guy who is currently under investigation for racially segregating his own city offices, leave that aside for a moment. Openly saying that the people declared war, that Trump's declared war on the people of Chicago is insane. That is bonkers.
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He's more interested in giving billions of dollars to other nations while farmers in.
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Tony Kennett
Urban cities giving billions to foreign nations. Trump has reduced the size and scope of foreign aid more than any president since William McKinley. Foreign aid? Get outta here, dude. I mean, I. Of all of the arguments to make. This is your go to radio crew. We got to send you to commercial. We'll be back in a second. It's the Tony Kennett cast on the live stream. We'll continue.
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Around this country are literally being destabilized. And so whether it's the legal system, whether it's through executive order or whether it's through the brave women and men who are serving as rapid responders.
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Tony Kennett
Well, unless you're, you know, someone calling for help in the south side or unless you're someone calling for help in Broadview, or unless you're someone calling for help from gang violence, or unless you're someone calling for help from terrorist violence, then, you know, well, depends on what dispatch is saying today.
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Literally have people who are volunteering in this city, on the southwest side, the northwest side, all over this city to make sure that we're protecting children from being separated from their families.
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Tony Kennett
There you go. Now he's saying we have people that are volunteering to fight federal agents. He's lionizing those who are committing acts of genuine. Again, put away, putting away the politics for a second. That is a bonkers, insane thing to say that is going to get more people killed. And this is a situation in which you can say it is all on his hands. It is right there for him. Now, the Broadview mayor, Katrina Thompson has now issued an order designating Protest hours of 9am to 6pm this is according to NBC News in response to escalating disruptions and public safety concerns. I love this, by the way. Producer Nick, There's a group of People that come out to protest and it gets violent. People are like, wow, there should be a curfew. This isn't protesting. This is really dangerous. And you have idiots from the Hill and the Independent and, and Washington Post will come out and say, well, it's really just peaceful, mostly peaceful expressions of passion and liberty. And then after there has been violence, after there have been weeks of genuine pain and bloodshed, all then the curfews come out. Ah, there we go. It is unfortunately worse in Portland. Um, what you're seeing if you're watching the live stream, this is an officer and the Portland Police Department who is appearing to give advice to the members of Antifa according to their own wear and badges that they wear. It's amazing. Antifa is the only organization that wears badges, has uniforms, has their logos painted on their trash can, riot shields, on the identical gas masks they're always wearing. They're not allowed to be considered an organization. It's just an idea. I always wear the badges of ideas. It's like live, laugh, love. I just wear like Liberty on my wrist whenever I go out, you know, ideas. So here's the A police officer in Portland giving advice on how to get away with as much as you can without being technically arrested.
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Hey, I'm the one who got stabbed.
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Tony Kennett
You know, I really appreciate it when law enforcement doesn't escalate a situation. I've had officers that have showed up. For example, when I was in Chicago with the dnc, there were several officers in the Chicago Police Department who did in fact give advice. Do you know what the advice was? Go home. Go home. It's not worth it. It's not worth it. You don't need to be caught up in this. You're not actually going to do anything here. The brave right to protest and blocking traffic and committing acts of violence. It's not going to endear you to the rest of the country. And this brings us to the National Guard because at some point, the American people are no longer going to tolerate this again. There are countless videos, there are testimonies, there are police reports. There are active violent acts in Portland. And so Trump decided to send in the Oregon National Guard. And this brings up Judge Immerse and we're going to have to talk about her up in just a second here because I have to bring the radio crew back from commercial. We'll talk about Immerse. We're going to get to some of the insane things regarding the Virginia Attorney General candidate. There's a lot tonight. Tony Knitcaster on the Daily Signal. Don't go anywhere.
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Is the Tony Kennett cast.
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Tony Kennett
Welcome back to the Tony Kinnit cast here on the Daily Signal. The situation in Portland is not really any better than Chicago. There are lawsuits flying faster than insults at a Waffle House. The latest from Judge Karen Immergut, who wrote a decision, kind of a last minute decision on Saturday saying, okay, Trump is not allowed to call in the Oregon National Guard to send them to Portland. The reason that she gave originally was that Trump was not going to be allowed to send National Guardsmen to protect federal facilities, which is what he was sending the National Guard in to do. It's not like Washington, D.C. this is not like Memphis, where he's sending them in as law enforcement support. He's sending in the National Guard to Chicago and to Portland to aid in the defense of federal buildings so that federal agents can carry out the upholding of federal law. That's it. So Judge Karen Immergut comes forward and says, well, the, the problem here is that Trump's facts were really not grounded. Yeah, that's not a, a decision a judge gets to make. You don't really get to do that. As a federal judge, you say, is this lawful or is this unlawful? So there were a lot of people that came out and said, Judge Immerse, well, she's a Trump appointee, which, yes, she was appointed by President Trump by a unanimous voice vote in 2019 on the floor of the Senate. She was originally a Democrat until she wanted to be a U.S. attorney under the George Bush administration and then swapped her party real quick in a hustle hurry. So for those out there as well as you, big Trump supporter. But there were a lot of people in the first Trump administration, as is very much on record, that were simply slid on through because Trump was told, well, these are the people to slide on through. And they ended up being objectively bad people. When you trust people to run things for you, you end up getting their rationale in their decisions. That's not always the best thing. And so Karen threw out a really awful, awful court decision. And then Trump said, okay, well, a federal judge has ruled that I can send in the California National Guard to do the upholding of the law at federal buildings. And so he then took, according to Gavin Newsom's office, it's really funny watching Gavin Newsom's office be the one to report this. Then Trump pulls out 200 National Guardsmen, two companies, and said, all right, you guys are gonna head into Portland instead. So then Karen hikes up her robes and runs awkwardly like Mrs. Doubtfire. Help is on the way, dear. Down to the federal office in Portland and writes in a super duper extra emergency alley uper report that says Trump is not allowed to send any National Guard into Oregon and Portland. Yeah, that's not even remotely allowed in the Constitution. Article 2 authority. No. I would like to place a bet. If we ever have the text records of Supreme Court justices revealed to the American people, I will bet balls to bones that Clarence Thomas texted Chief Justice John Roberts and essentially just wrote the word dude. Not even Catangi Brown Jackson could misread the Constitution that badly. And that woman has the reading ability of a second grader on Ritalin. So I'm just not. I'm, I'm just not seeing it here. But alas, there is one particular take that I feel is really important. Before we move on to some of the other news from Jason Willock, he said the Oregon judges ruling against Trump on the National Guard says Oregon will suffer irreparable harm in part because the Guard will cause more protests. Horrible, horrible, conditional laws are bad. Law enforcement showing up to a black community means more black people will commit crimes is one of the most racist and egregious arguments against law enforcement that treats black people as just responsive savages. It's disgusting. You're seeing the exact same argument being used here for people in Portland. Well, if you send the National Guard in the Oregon National Guard, which would likely include people who grew up in Portland, well, that's just going to cause unrest and cause crimes to be committed. Yeah. No, the fact that there are people with guns inside the bank does not give me more legal standing to rob the bank. No, but he says, therefore immediate ruling against Trump is needed. He's citing the judge. He said maybe, but this reasoning gives protesters a legal incentive to escalate. Yeah, they are giving every single individual the ability to commit these acts en masse. Reagan Reese, friend of the show, White House correspondent for the Daily Caller. She asked Trump about this today. Here was his response. Mr. President, Governor Abbott offered up the.
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Texas National Guard to you.
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Tony Kennett
Have you had any other conversations with other red state governors?
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They're willing to offer. Every one of them is willing to offer whatever we need. We thank Governor Abbott of Texas. Every one of the red state, as you call them, red state governors is willing to give whatever we need because they want our agents protected. You know, these ICE agents have a tough job. They have to go in and get, in many cases, stone cold criminals, hardened criminals, longtime criminals, and every Essentially, Republican governor has offered up whatever we need and some Democratic governors also.
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Tony Kennett
Yeah. By the way, this is going to hurt people in the swing state districts the most. This is going to hurt Democrats in Pennsylvania. It's going to hurt Democrats in Nevada. And I'm going to be honest with you. Yeah. I mean, as a political news guy, that kind of a thing. Yeah, I'm very much interested in that. I'm interested in the polling at this moment, though. The attitude from the leaders in Oregon and in Illinois are going to get innocent people and by which I mean bystanders killed. It's going to get the protesters and the rioters killed as well. I don't want them to die. I don't. I don't want guardsmen or ICE agents. I don't want anyone in that city other than criminals to suffer for the particular actions currently on the table. And right now, again, we're talking about the rhetoric, the both sides ism. I'm just not seeing a counter over from the right. By the way, I will, I will make this one case before I move on to the insane situation out of the Virginia Attorney General's race, which at this point is going to overturn just that entire election. This is a Terry McAuliffe situation over there. I do want to make this last point. The reason I am so careful about using the word treason on the show about just there's kind of a thing in the populist side of the party who's very aggravated at the disgusting kind of corrupt actions that have occurred over the last 10 years. The reason I don't use the word treason to describe things is that when you do have moments where you have city officials and federal judges granting the permission structure for subversion, for insurrection, for treason, that's when those words matter a whole lot. So that's just a little transparent thing there. Onto the Virginia race. There are two very big warning signs for Democrats right now. There are some pollsters out there who are trying to suggest that things are really looking bad for Republicans right now. I'm looking at the larger trend line data, not seeing it. The best cases for these are the Virginia race down the ballot now and the New Jersey gubernatorial race. So the New Jersey gubernatorial race, remember there was that scandal, the Democrat candidate caught in a major cheating scandal around the Naval Academy in her time there. Now that's tied 43 to 43 races in New Jersey at this time should not be tied like that. In Virginia. Things are really starting to get interesting. So right now, the current Virginia Attorney General Jason Miares, friend of the show, we might actually have him on later this week, is running against a guy named Jay Jones. He's the Democrat AG nominee. Now, we reported on this on Friday that he had sent a series of texts to the wrong person that spiraled very much out of control that were shared with the National Reviews reporting team that showed that he said, look, if I was in a room with Gilbert, the former speaker of the Virginia House, Republican, Hitler and Cambodia's pole pot, and I only had two bullets, I would fire two bullets at Gilbert. Gilbert would get both bullets. That's a very crass and disgusting joke that is reserved for the sharpest of things. And then he said that he wouldn't really care if Gilbert's wife and children were dead, too. After all, they're just raising little fascists, which, my God. And I don't say that as I swear, I say that in prayer. My God, what in the world is going on in this country? Well, it's worse. It is, in fact, worse. Abigail Spanberger, the congressman, the former CIA officer who's running an uphill race now at this point against Winsome Sears, the current lieutenant governor of Virginia, she has not called for him to step down from the race. In fact, no prominent Democrat that I am aware of in the country has called for Jay Jones to step down from the race defending the guy calling for murder. Ooh, I don't know if that's going to stick. Well, now, Kerry Coiner, who released the text showing that Jones fantasized about shooting the Republican leader and his children being killed, also pointed out that in 2020 and 2021, Jones also suggested that, well, you know, if a few police died, you know, in the whole. George Floyd, but, you know, if a couple of police were shot, well, then, quote, if a few of them died, then they would move on. Not shooting people. Not killing people. What. Sorry, the. The context of that. What he's saying is it would be a good thing for the country if a couple of police officers got killed. The future perhaps Attorney General, the chief law enforcement officer in the Commonwealth of Virginia, that's who the Democrats are putting up at the moment. That will destroy the ticket if he's not removed or called to step down. Wow, that's some. That is some bonker stuff. Radio crew, we got to send you to commercial. We've got more news breaking. It's going to be a live stream night. Not going to lie to you. YouTube.com Daily Signal we'll see the radio crew back in just a minute. So The Israel Hamas deal might be falling through. No better way to put it in the Israel Hamas war situation. Greta Thunberg and her brave Swedish flotilla, which, by the way, has now been revealed to have carried no aid in the boats. They were apparently in this aid flotilla of delivering humanitarian aid to Gaza Strip. They were intercepted again, and independent sources have confirmed that there was no aid in their little flotilla. And she was detained again. And as she was detained again, all these rumors started to come out that were definitely not timed for that exact thing, saying they were capturing her and Israel was torturing her and beating her, beating her face bloody, and they were torturing Greta Thunberg and her allies, all just for the crime of being pro Palestinian people. Well, Greta was back on camera today, and guess what? All of that was bullcrap.
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And I could talk for a very.
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Tony Kennett
Very long time about our mistreatment and.
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Abuses in our imprisonment, trust me.
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Tony Kennett
But. But she doesn't list anything or provide any evidence. She looks fine. Hair is fine. Nothing is emaciated. There's no bruises. The way that she's standing doesn't indicate any kind of physical attack or abuse whatsoever.
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Guest or Interviewee
That is not the story. What happened here was that Israel, while continuing to worsen and escalate their genocide and mass destruction, with genocidal intent, attempting to erase an entire population, an entire nation.
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Tony Kennett
Do you really believe that if Greta or any of the people that she was with were actually hit to the point of causing a bruise by any of the Israeli officials, that the photo of that bruise would not be shared on the Internet quicker than a Super bowl nip slip? Do you really believe that that's not the story? Oh, yeah, I'm betting it would be the story. And by the way, I also looked at some other photos, and having just also flown out of Tel Aviv myself, I noticed that in the photos of them leaving Israel, the part of the airport. So in the. The Tel Aviv terminal in Ben Gurion Airport, there's like a long room. And on the left side of the room, if you're facing the windows out on the left side of the room is where the security lines start over. On the far right side of the room, the very opposite end where you're coming from, like the ticketing area, there are like some special equipment in lines that are reserved for diplomats, for VIPs, and you can pay for a little special program that gives you access to the. That cuts everyone else in line, like pre tsa, but, like, fancier. And I couldn't help but notice that they were given By Israel like the fancy diplomat Security like cut everyone in line fancy. Nice service through the Ben Gurion airport on their way out, even to their enemies, probably ill advisedly so. Israel is still ridiculously kind. That shocks me a little. Shocks me morally. It doesn't shock me practically. That's been quite a thing for a while according to Ryan Givens, though now a source in Hamas has told Reuters, quote, the organization being Hamas will not lay down its arms until the end of the Israeli occupation and the establishment of a Palestinian state, end quote. So the Trump administration had released this, this plan for peace in the region saying you release the hostages and Hamas, you're in exile. I don't think so. Another government is going to be set up. Here's this long plan. Even Qatar and a bunch of other Middle Eastern nations that are supposed to be favorable, Hamas signed on to it. Now, again, according to this statement to Reuters from Hamas, the answer is no. Hamas had come out originally and said, all right, we'll give up the hostages and then agreed to nothing else. A lot of people said, hmm, that's a little strange. It sounds like they're not really agreeing to anything. Well, we'll actually see this all the way through. But that may be falling apart. Senator Chris Van Hollen has come out amid this fun shutdown crisis to complain. Cory Booker is out there. Chuck Schumer is in pseudo hiding. And this brings us to the shutdown updates. It's insane that we are now in this part of the show and just now getting to the shutdown stuff. More breaking news. Don't go anywhere. I got to pick the radio crew up from commerc. It's the Tony Kenneth cast.
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Co-host or Guest Commentator
This is the Tony Kennett cast on 93 WIBC.
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Tony Kennett
A very fine evening to you and a Mark Morrison, return of the Mac, not returning to an open government. The Senate vote failed yet again, alas. Now, again, Republicans only need a few more senators because as I've said before, Cortez, Masto and Fetterman, Democrats, they've already shuffled on over to vote alongside Republicans. Producer Nick, can you be a pal? Can you check for me if any other Democrats joined or if it's still just Angus King, the independent, Cortez, Masto and Fetterman on this latest vote. Thanks, pal. The senators can't really vote in favor of actually passing any kind of legislation to get the government back open because, guys, there's interviews ready to go and all of your favorite senators are there now. Senator Chris Van Hollen, he's not actually talking about the shutdown right now. Nor is he talking about Kilmar Abrego Garcia. Remember how concerned he was for him? Yeah, he doesn't care about him anymore. Cause I mean, you know, he never actually really cared for him. He was just, it was just for the cameras. Well, now Chris Van Hollen, he's extra super mad about the Gaza flotilla. Here you go.
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Guest or Interviewee
I just spoke to some individuals whose loved ones were part of the floor flotilla trying to get food and humanitarian.
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Tony Kennett
Supplies to starving people in Gaza, except there were no supplies on those boats.
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And they called me because their loved.
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Tony Kennett
Ones have been beaten like Kilmar Bergo beat his wife. Chris Van Hollen, he loves a good wife beater.
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Detained. And they want to know what their situation is. And they've gotten no real response from the US Embassy or the US Government.
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Tony Kennett
I love this. Chris Van Hollen spends more time worrying about people on the Mediterranean or people coming up from the border illegally than he ever has cared about anyone in Maryland. Cory Booker, he took to network television and popped his eyes right out of his head. Here's Cory Booker looking, well, as constipated as when he speaks on the floor of the Senate.
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I'm joined in studio by Democratic Senator Cory Booker on day five of the shutdown.
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Tony Kennett
Let's talk about what John Thune said and whether there have been any negotiations.
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Or conversations this weekend. Bipartisan.
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Well, that's the frustrating thing. John Thune is absolutely right. Thirteen different occasions when we were in charge, we passed budgets because we did it in a bipartisan way. It wasn't our way or the highway. We came together in what they call a four corner agreement and negotiated the way forward.
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Tony Kennett
He doesn't mention that the vast, vast, vast majority of these times, the Democrats had the majority and Republicans ended up voting in favor with them just to not shut the government down. This time that didn't happen. He doesn't mention that he's one of the people voting down, getting the government open.
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Co-host or Guest Commentator
They're not negotiating. Remember, the speaker of the House has kept the House out for the last two weeks. They're not sitting down. And when he asks what's different, what is different is we are, for the first time in America ever, we're on a moment where because of Donald Trump's attacks on Medicaid and the Affordable Care act, on the verge of tens of millions of Americans losing their health care and most of Americans experiencing a significant.
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Tony Kennett
Rise in their health care costs. This is. Now that's weird for two reasons here. First of all, it's very Strange to hear him say that this is Mike Johnson's fault. The bill's in the Senate. Mike Johnson has adjourned the House. Yeah, because the House passed the bill. The House passed the bill. It's in the Senate now. Your plans suck, bud. Number two, and my personal favorite here is his really goofy, goober style claim that, well, this is unprecedented the history of America. Think of all the people that are gonna lose insurance. Well, okay, Obama was, was president like 15 years ago, sunshine. So the, the argument that you're gonna make that, well, I mean, Obama, Affordable Care is an American institution. I was all, first of all, told that, well, that was amazing. It was gonna lower healthcare costs forever. If you like, your doctor can keep your doctor. It was gonna lower prices, and it ended up skyrocketing prices. So that Biden during COVID had to add on a ton of extra government subsidies to keep it afloat. And unlike the Gaza pier that Biden built, it did stay afloat for a little while. And now Obamacare is once again back in the very terrible places. And this is going to continue, but maybe not as long as you think, because Democrats are really starting to feel the pressure on it. Hakeem Jeffries is now coming out and saying, well, I don't think it's going to last. After all, I got to get paid.
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First of all, that question is not even a ripe one because we're anticipating that this shutdown issue will be resolved well in advance of our next paycheck.
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Tony Kennett
Oh, well, good. Oh, that's. If there's one thing I'm deeply concerned about, it's whether or not Hakeem Jeffries takes his salary. Last but not least, Senator Alex Padilla. He also got a very important interview. Can remember, people in the country right now are focused on some very important things. Senator Alex Padilla of California is really upset after getting on camera for the very first time, after trying to rush Kristi Noem and getting tackled. He's also very angry. And he's angry because once a while ago, he was called Jose. So here's Alex Padilla. Not to, you know, get upset about something silly being asked about. Well, we also saw Vice President J.D.
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Vance, when referring to you and that.
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Tony Kennett
Incident, used the wrong name. He called you Jose Padilla. How did he call you? Jose Padilla, first of all. No, he called you Jose Padilla again. If you're going to get out there and go, Jose Padilla esta lauego. Stop it. You're a white girl from New York. Stop that right now. I leave Senator Jose Tortilla alone Supreme Go. You understand that misnaming of you?
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Yeah, sadly not surprised because this is how petty this administration is. Not just Trump, not just Vance, it's the, the culture that they have created for themselves.
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Tony Kennett
I want you to mentally prepare yourself for what he is about to claim because again, she said he called you Jose Padilla and now he is going to reference one of the most insane connections to the name Jose I have ever heard. And no, it is not Jalapeno on a Stick by Jeff Dunham was trying to do right.
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To call a Latino man Jose flippantly. That's their way of trying to ridicule us, you know, for Vice President Vance in particular. Right. Let's remember who Jesus parents were. They were Jose and Maria.
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Tony Kennett
Jesus parents. Remember Jesus parents were Jose and Maria on their way to El Bethlehem for a Cinco de Mayo. I, I too, I too remember the story in, In Matteo, chapter two, because chapter one, that's, that's, you know, very important. It's just the genealogy, of course, it was not Caesar Augustus. It was actually Little Caesar who was giving the decree to come to Bethlehem for Cinco de Mayo. Very, very important. And of course, Mary actually rode to Bethlehem on the Taco Bell Chihuahua, as we all know, the story we love. I'm amazed, Amazed. Can Democrats stop trying to christify themselves for three and a half seconds? We're going to continue on the live stream because believe it or not, that's not the most insane thing at the moment. It's the Tony Kenned cast here on the Daily Signal, nationally syndicated, first on 93 WIBC. Now as the radio crew sun sets off to the blissful lands of commercial. I'm kind of excited to share these next couple of clips with you before we move over to our interview with Dinesh. So, first of all, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez has now stepped forward to talk about how she doesn't find Stephen Miller, the Deputy White House Chief of Staff, attractive. I don't know what it is with ladies over on the left. As soon as they don't like something a guy is saying, their immediate response is, well, I wouldn't like sleep with them or anything. I, I don't, I don't know if anyone was asking Alexandra Ocasio Cortez. She's out here. She's hungry for something taller than Stephen Miller, I guess. There you go.
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Point is, is that they are scrapping and grasping at straws because they have nothing else. Laugh at them. Stephen Miller is a clown. I've never seen that guy in real life. But he looks like he's like 4:10. And he looks like he is angry about the fact that he's 4 10.
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Tony Kennett
I just want to remind you that she is one of the first congresswomen that will step forward and get mad if you point out that Maxine Waters looks like she's old enough to have once made out with Noah in the back of the ark. That that AOC is one of the first people who gets super duper angry if you point out there's a bulge in representative Sarah McBride's skirt. She's one of the very first representatives who comes out against fat shaming, against slut shaming, against all of the phobias. But I tell you what she's out there saying, you know what his real problem is? He's short. Yeah, you got him AOC because you were really rocking the 7 foot 5 height.
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And he looks like he is so mad that he is 410 that he's taking that anger out at any other population possible. Like laugh at them.
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Tony Kennett
She tried to think of people who would be in opposition to short people. Like there's like the dwarf pack out there. Well, I mean the short people, they're taking it out on the talls and the wides and the, the mediums and the ventis. Those are Italian tall people. I mean, who knows what his is short. I bet he would have mugged Snow White given the chance.
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Laugh at them. Yes.
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Tony Kennett
They are dangerous.
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Yes. We're here to be strong for one another.
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Tony Kennett
We need to expose the lies.
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We need to never let off, like never let off the gas when it comes to protecting one another, exposing the lies.
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Tony Kennett
I'm just gonna make this clear. When you get to the end of a live stream. I've been there. We've all been there who have live streamed or done some kind of broadcasting. You didn't write enough for the show. Time's up. There are nights like tonight where there's way too much. You have nights and you just kind of get into the, the ending clauses that run off. You start thinking of all the wonderful phrases. You start sounding like Sam trying to pep Mr. Frodo up to get up Mount Doom. Mr. Frodo, there's something worth fighting for, but you get kind of sauced halfway through. Your brain shuts down. The Adderall wears off and you don't know where you're going. AOC went on for like another 10 minutes like that. That's the new champion of the left. The new Kamala Harris, replacement. This is going to be fun. Stephen Miller also brought some of the good today and what I might say, the proper attitude for what does need to happen in this country.
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I also don't know of any evidence.
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Tony Kennett
That there's some kind of vast underlying organization funding them. Is that what you're indicating is happening here?
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Yes, in fact, we know that it's true.
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Tony Kennett
But obviously you think Tyler Robinson was.
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Being funded by some terrorist organization.
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Co-host or Guest Commentator
No, what I said was you asked whether there was some larger criminal conspiracy related to domestic terrorism in this country, and I said, yes, there absolutely is. Now, of course, Antifa has been designated as a domestic terrorist organization. There's only one example of many in which we have. It's a typical, typically a continuum of violence. It involves both organized doxing. It involves violent threats and intimidation. It involves explicit calls to commit violence against a targeted person. Then that tends to escalate into physically violent and obstructive acts.
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Tony Kennett
And so it's this continuum that we.
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See over and over again where they're trying to use illegal violence and intimidation to disturb the operations of the federal government and federal personnel. And we see this playing out over and over and over again.
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Tony Kennett
He's correct. This is, by the way, in case no one's ever walked through. This is actually how the whole government funding argument works, because we are kind of in a time of conspiracy land. You have individuals running out there and suggesting that, well, George Soros, he calls up the sniper and is like, get him and tell him it was George. Like, no, it doesn't quite work that way. What you have are groups who are nonprofits. They're. They're activism groups, and they are given money by donors who have a mission and a purpose. It just so happens that a lot of these activist groups turn into coordinated, violent groups because what starts out as just, you know, chanting, we are against whatever, eventually set. Well, speech isn't enough. That's what you see today, by the way. You see a lot of Democrats on social media saying, well, speech and protesting isn't enough. We got to do more. This is that side of the more. And so when you, as a major donor are alerted, hey, you're funding this thing, that's like, really, really gross. And the donor says, yeah, but I mean, they're just spirit. And you give them more money. Yes. That then turns into that pipeline of giving money to groups that end up committing extremely terrible kinds of crimes like doxing federal agents or giving someone the resources to, let's say, set fire to a judge's. Home or plan to assassinate a Supreme Court justice or leak the opinion that led to the attempted assassination of that Supreme Court justice. That is how those networks come into play. You can go ahead and go after Stephen Miller for being short, but there's a far lot more Americans who understand how this game is played, that you're racist or you're short. I guess argument really isn't going to work on now. We did talk a little bit more with Dinesh d' Souza over some of the really cool kind of parallels in history between what's going on in Israel right now and some of the archeology, as well as kind of some updates in the Gaza situation. It's a really great interview. You're not going to want to miss it. And, you know, I think Dinesh has a pretty unique ability that not a lot have in this particular space. There are a couple of things in general broadcasting you try to steer clear of, like landmines regarding cultural issues, things that a lot of people argue about. Then there's Dinesh d'. Souza. That man takes a minesweeper and he hits every one of those landmines with all of his human being. That's right. The Dragon's prophecy, if you haven't seen it yet, it's coming out. It's got some great stuff in it. He is not taking anything. I believe October 9th is when it releases right away. Isn't that the update?
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Well, it's in theaters October 6 and 8, so you can actually watch it in the theater. We bought out 400 theaters around the country, but October 9th it's available in streaming and DVDs. So if you want to watch from home, that's no problem. Sign up for the streaming on October 9th.
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Tony Kennett
Now, again, there are a lot of things that people are trying to be really careful about right now and just try to tiptoe through the tulips. Or instead they're taking wide swaths through conspiracy land. I believe the Dragon's prophecy doesn't exactly do that. You kind of charge this stuff head on. Give us a bit of a breakdown here.
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Yeah. We begin. The first 10 minutes is like riveting October 7th footage. And I think what makes it so powerful is you're not seeing it from the Israeli side, you're not watching it from the kibbutzes. As the Hamas guys come in, it's like you're on a motorcycle with a GoPro. You're riding in with Hamas. Why? Because they took the footage. It's their footage. They live stream some of it. We have all of it now. Some of the most gruesome we don't show, but we show enough that you're like on the scene. And then we pull back and we go, this is not just an ordinary event. It's not even just a ordinary historical event. It's a kind of biblical event. It raises the biggest questions about this war. What's going on? Is there a larger significance that goes beyond politics? What does the Bible have to say about this? What does biblical archaeology say about this biblical prophecy? And so the film ascends from the political to the spiritual to the biblical, and it integrates all of those elements, I think, in a very beautiful and in the end, a very inspiring tapestry.
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Tony Kennett
This is something that bothers me greatly as an evangelical in the middle of the country. I feel as though often I am, as soon as Israel gets made, make its way into the conversation, that I am an idiot for apparently for linking things that have to do with that region of the world, with God's people to biblical people prophecy. And I think that a lot of American culture in the political has used the Israel, Gaza War as an opportunity to say, oh, well, you know, evangelicals only support Israel because they think it's going to get destroyed or some such nonsense. And I understand that taking a proper look at archaeology at biblical prophecy, that's a lot of work that you guys have invested into creating this.
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Yeah. Let's leave aside the prophecy for a minute and focus just on the present and the past. Right. Because one of the points made by Jonathan Khan, he wrote the international bestseller called the Dragon's Prophecy. Our film is loosely based on his work. So think of this. He makes a very arresting analogy. He says the battle between Israel and Hamas is an eerie recreation of ancient battles described in the Bible between the Israelites and their longtime enemy, the Philistines. Now, interestingly, the term Philistine, the term Palestine, that's the same word, that's the same term. But quite apart from that kind of automatic analogy, what Khan is really getting at is that the tactics of October 7th are the same as the ones you can find in the Bible. And if I can give a brief example, let's look at a figure like Samson in the Bible. He represents the tenacity, the strength of Israel. He is captured by, you guessed it, the Philistines. The first thing that they do is they blind him. So interestingly, Israel was like blinded on October 7th. This came out of nowhere. The Bible says they dragged him where Samson to Gaza. Gaza is mentioned in the Bible the Philistines control an area now called the Gaza Strip, then called Philistia, and its chief city, Gaza. And then the Bible says the people of Gaza said, bring out Samson, strip him so that we can be entertained by him. Right after October 7, captives are stripped to the waist, are paraded out. People are cheering and jeering and yelling Allahu Akbar. And so Khan Jonathan Cahn makes, I think, the very striking observation. He goes, samson can be seen as the very first hostage of Gaza. So this, to me is a very interesting way. Again, we're not projecting in a sort of ethereal way into the future. We're looking right back to things that have been described as having happened 3,000 years ago. And we're finding very interesting parallels occurring right before our eyes.
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Tony Kennett
And again, these kind of parallels are not just kind of a Nostradam esque, you know, saying that, you know, the sky is blue here and it's also blue, blue here. But looking at some very disturbing parallels between the type of war raged under, the brutality of this radical Islamic terror against the Israeli people, and then mirrored the same way earlier with the same barbaric cultures in scripture. That, that's, that's very interesting.
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I mean, here are two tidbits that reinforces there's a lot more of this kind of stuff in the movie. If you look, for example, at the name Hama, which apparently in Arabic means something like strength or vigor. But it happens to be a Hebrew word. It's a word that actually is in the Old Testament. And what does it mean? Violence and destruction in the Hebrew? The Bible says, lord, save me from the men of Hamas. Hamas dwells in the dark places of the earth. This is actually in the Hebrew translation of the Bible. And then if you look at the four colors of the apocalypse, which you remember, they have to do with death and destruction and famine. You know, you have the white horse and the black horse and the red horse and the green horse. The green, of course, representing death. Yeah, Yep. And then you just pull out the Palestinian flag and take a look. You'll see red for the red horse, white for the white horse, black for the black horse, green for the green horse. No other colors appear on the Palestinian flag and some of the other Islamic nations, the same thing. So again, you can dismiss one of these things and go, well, it's just a co. Interesting coincidence. But once you develop a kind of broad and excruciatingly in depth examination, you begin to see there's something here. And then of course, there are going to be people Who? I have a secular audience. Jonathan Cahn's audience is mainly people who accept the Bible. But I'm going to have guys who say, well, listen to this. It's all very interesting, but how do you know that these people and events of the Bible are real? Can you prove to me that Pontius Pilate existed outside the Bible? What about Jeremiah? What about Isaiah? What about King David? And my answer is, yes, I can. Yes, I can, yes, I can. And yes again. And I do it through biblical archaeology. So there's a very interesting kind of skeptical section in the film where I'm in the archaeological pit and we're looking at stones and seals, clay seals coming out of the ground. And you look at it in one of the stone inscriptions, Pontius Pilate, Prefect of Israel. Boom, there he is. He's jumping out of the Bible and into the pages of history. Undeniable, irrefutable. So the film is, I think, searching in that it covers secular territory, it covers biblical territory, it covers the past in the way of archeology, by the way, the archeology doesn't just authenticate the Bible. It demonstrates beyond a doubt the presence of the Jews in their ancient homeland.
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Tony Kennett
I, I'm, I'm, I'm a producer. Nick will show these photos here from my recent trip to Israel. A section when we see these columns and the tops and the bottoms of these columns are very clearly of a tire origin. And then we see, and again earlier on in Samuel, where the people, the men of Tyre, built for David elements of his house. And there's no other way. There's no reason that some archaeological piece from Tyre should be all the way that far to the east in Jerusalem. And yet we see so many different beautiful archaeological digs. The way that that's done, by the way. And it's just a former science teacher seeing things that they have done in Israel with their archeology digs. It is a level of craftsmanship and care to the surrounding land. I've never witnessed anywhere else. I mean, that long tunnel that was being shellacked on social media by these, these goofballs. I walked down the same tunnel about a week and a half prior that they were telling us, this isn't open to the public yet, but if you find a coin, please let us know because it could very well change everything that we understand about currency from that time and place. It's another level in archaeological expertise.
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Guest or Interviewee
Yes. Some of this that you are describing is in the film, by the way. And not only that, it shows the Absurdity of claiming that the Jews are colonizers. I mean, how do you colonize your own land? Right. Can the Irish colonize Ireland? Can the Asian Indians colonized India? No, they've been there from the. They were the original inhabitants. Now, if they had packed up and left voluntarily, you could say, well, they abandoned it and then the Arabs moved in.
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Tony Kennett
Finders keepers kind of a thing. Yeah.
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Guest or Interviewee
The truth of it is they were thrown out. They came back and Islam arrived really as a force of colonization. Right. A few centuries after Jesus, that whole region, Jerusalem, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, was all Christian. Islamic armies coming out of the Arabian Desert and later out of Syria, they stormed the place. They went to the holiest site of Judaism and Christianity. They put a victory arch called the Dome of the Rock right on the side of the Solomonic Temple. It's adjoining and adjacent to the Al Aqsa Mosque. So you want to talk about a symbol of Islamic colonization. It's staring you in the face when you're standing pretty much anywhere in Jerusalem.
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Tony Kennett
Interesting choice of words. And I do want to kind of touch on that. There's such a weird messaging war. That is something that's kind of fascinated me here. The desperation not to accept what is staring you in the face. So it's interesting you talk about that with the colonizer examples. People don't realize. I didn't realize until I went in person how small the old city of Jerusalem is. People don't understand. It could fit in a modern, like, Midwestern high school campus. The entire Old City. That's how small that is. But you see the. Again, it's the example staring you in the face. The Hamas fighters going, and the civilians of Palestine, Palestine going, or the Gaza City Strip area going into Israel on the seventh recording with their phones and GoPros, the acts they are doing with notes in their pockets saying, this is what I'm going to do. I want to rape and behead and et cetera, et cetera. And yet people won't accept it. They say it has to. It can't be that simple. Even though they're chanting and celebrating it.
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Guest or Interviewee
I mean, I'm especially disturbed that some of this is now coming from the conservatives and from the Christians as well. In other words, I expect it from the left. The left is wedded to this doctrine of anti colonialism. They apply it in a very selective way. Israel is the colonizer.
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Tony Kennett
When Greta Thunberg does this, no one bats an eye.
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Guest or Interviewee
Right? Exactly. We expected Ilhan Omar. We totally know what that's all about. But when it's coming from people. Tucker being a good example. To me, Candace Owens is kind of a freak show of her own, but Tucker Carlson's a reasonable guy and a smart guy. I think he does know better. So when he says things like, really, are you saying that the Jews of today are the true descendants of the ancient Israelites? I say to myself, I've been all over the world, right? Nowhere else do the people in a country really look like the ancient peoples. Right. You go to France. France really looks a lot like Belgium.
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Tony Kennett
These days, or, you know, Saudi Arabia, but go on, right?
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Guest or Interviewee
The world has become homogenized, but not Israel. When you're in Israel, you can. You could. You feel like you're in the land of the Bible. People dress that way. They eat that food. They've revived the Hebrew language. They worship the same God. So, you know, when, when you hear Tucker say something like, genetic studies show that there's only a 70% connection between the, the Jews today. I'm like, Tucker, you never, if anybody talked about doing this kind of nonsense with any other group, they would be, I mean, they would be skinned. You tried to do this to the blacks and say, blacks in America are only 41 related to the Africans. So how dare they call themselves African Americans. Let's, you know, let's make, let's make sure they change their name and admit that they're really not African Americans. Tucker wouldn't dream of doing that. And so this is sort of my operating definition of anti Semitism. You apply one rule to everybody else and you come up with another one for the Jews. And then I'm like, you know, I don't know your motives, but they are suspect.
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Tony Kennett
I mean, I'm just of the opinion that a lot of this kind of nonsense gets into the silly territory. And at least with our audience, we only have a small amount of time with them. And so if I'm going to sit here and postulate theories, then after a while, I should be able to say scoreboard. And right now, what I'm seeing is a lot of people who promised a lot of things around the Israel Iran war, around the Israeli wars in general, around the Trump administration. They made all these, these promises. And lo and behold, here I am pointing at the scoreboard, and I'm not seeing those. I was promised to be right with a stellar record going into the playoffs. And so again, when I, when I, again, when I was over in Israel, I was interested in seeing, as a Christian, how I would be treated. And I was treated far better. Than I, you know, could have reasonably expected from any place that I would be a tourist. It's. It's quite something to have someone who is very clearly an Orthodox Jew. I mean, we're talking like the full curls and the beard and the hat, asking me earnestly if I had gotten to visit the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. You know what I'm saying? Like saying, hey, make sure you make time for that. Go see it. Go, you know, go touch this. You know, see this. That was again, and the. The focus on the family there in and of itself. But I mean, of course, we didn't come here to talk about things that so much of our audience obviously knows is true through common sense. Do you really see the dragon's prophecy making a sizable impact on the messaging surrounding this war? Because that's really what a lot of this is going to come down to.
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Guest or Interviewee
Yeah, it's an effort to really elevate the debate. And, you know, movies have a peculiar power. They integrate reason and emotion. They appeal to the head and the heart. And we now, this is probably my ninth documentary, we've become very skilled in being able to entertain because people go to the movies for entertainment.
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Tony Kennett
That is true.
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Guest or Interviewee
You don't make an entertaining movie. You're kind of out of the game. But when you make an entertaining movie and an emotional movie, then at the same time, you can pack a lot of information in it and people receive it and learn from it. And so this movie has that combination of things. In fact, it's one of these films where when you see it, it's a little. You're a little hard pressed to describe, which is true of any good movie. Right. If you were to watch the Shawshank Redemption and then a friend goes, what's that about? You're like. You're hard pressed to say. You're like, well, it's about friendship and, yeah, it's about prison life. But then you. You feel like it's not doing justice to the movie you just saw. And this is like that. The dragon's prophecies. I'm urging people, including people who, like, despise Israel, despise the Jews. I'm like, listen, you know What? Give me 90 minutes of your time. Open your mind. Just walk into the theater or just stream it, watch it, try to learn from it, and see if it leaves you in a little different place than you started. I bet the answer to that question is going to be yes.
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Tony Kennett
And it's that kind of fundamental idea that. That kind of. Here you go. Watch this. Change my mind. That again, is something so very, very important to where the country is right now, to where the culture of Western civilization is right now. Dinesh d', Souza, thank you so much for coming on. Excellent stuff here. It's the dragons with AN S prophecy film.com of course, it's on the chyront in the description as well. Dinesh, thank you so much for the excellent work and a little bit of your time.
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Guest or Interviewee
Always a pleasure.
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Tony Kennett
All right, very, very quickly here at the tail end of the show, a couple of important things. It does appear now that President Trump is ordering 400 Texas National Guardsmen to Chicago. I'm unsure of a lot of the details. I'm getting some word, yes, PBS is confirming this Illinois is suing. So we're going to get to some more information on that when we can. Do me a favor here at the very tail end like and subscribe to the Daily Signal, whether that's on Rumble or I guess if you're watching this via X a like on this tweet and a follow the Daily Signal account and then on YouTube liking and subscribing, hitting that little bell icon. Especially this week, especially this week, we have got some insanely cool stuff planned. Again, I've accidentally, because I'm a fool. You never, never bait people with interviews that you think are going to happen later because they always have a magical way of, of unscheduling themselves. But I'm going to risk it. Senator Ron Johnson, we might have an opportunity to talk a little bit more about this insane FBI scandal and some, believe it or not, consequences. Not just a strongly worded letter, some other huge guests this week. It's really cool surprise stuff. So tomorrow night, 7pm Eastern, be there or I guess go live in Chas Cargo. I don't know. It's going to be interesting. We've got a lot of news to cover. I'm sure it's the Tony Kinnit cast here on the Daily Signal, nationally syndicated and first out of 93 WIBC. A special thank you to all of our radio syndication and TV syndication partners. Take care of.