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Ep. 429 - Fall of the King(pin), Democrats Sacrifice Their Own, Trump "Gazas" Putin
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Venezuela's dictator Maduro is in serious trouble. Democrats sacrifice their own while backing the most radical elements they can find.
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Tony Kennett
It's the Smucker's Uncrustables podcast with your host, Uncrustables. Okay, today's guest is rough around the edges. Please welcome crust. Thanks for having me. Today's topic, he's round with soft, pillowy bread. Hey. Filled with delicious PB and J. Are you talking about yourself? And you can take them anywhere. Why'd you invite. And we are out of time. Are you really cutting me off?
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Stephen Kent
Uncrustables are the best part of the sandwich.
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Tony Kennett
Sorry, crust. Tony Kennett. Tony Kennett.
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Donald Trump
Tony Kennett.
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Zoran Mamdani
Tony Kennett.
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Tony Kennett
Tony Kennett.
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Darren Smallcomb
Tony Kennett.
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Tony Kennett
Tony Kennett, host of the Tony Kennett cast. Let's get down to business. You're listening to the Tony Kenneth cast on 93WibcyTV here on the Daily Signal. Good evening and welcome to the Tony Kenneth Cast here on the Daily Signal, nationally syndicated, first on 93 WIBC. We've got a lot to dig into if you are joining us, I guess, over on the video side of things. And you'll notice that I'm in a hotel room. It's because I'm in Orlando. And while I would certainly love to have all of the fancy crew that follow me around and somehow make the hotel room I'm in look like a beautiful studio, you're gonna have to settle for the illustrious blue light shining off of my ibuydirect glasses and my rumpled blue suit from American Airlines Travel. Now on to actual news here, because there's a lot more than air travel on the civilian side of things going on in our hemisphere, mainly down in the southern Caribbean. You know, where the beach Boys are singing Kokomo. The Venezuelans are getting quite the air show. They are getting to see a series of maneuvers. Essentially the United States saying, hey, you want to see what the B52 Strata Fortress can do? No, you don't. So the Strata Fortress belonging to the US Air Force 2nd Bomb Wing, escorted by Marine Corps F35 Bravo Lightning Twos, which were temporarily stationed at the Roosevelt Roads Naval Station in Puerto Rico, carried out a demonstration mission near the northern Venezuelan coastline. The center, the northernmost point of the Venezuelan coastline. That's where the B52 Hotel Strata Fortress bombers were getting frisky. I don't know what was carried out in this demonstration mission. I like to think that if Secretary of War and President Trump. If, excuse me, Secretary of War hegseth President Trump order some kind of demonstration of US Air supremacy. It's one of the Strata Fortresses is blasting Freebird by Lynyrd Skynyrd and the other Strata Fortress is just doing sick barrel rolls over the northern Caribbean. Other than that, I really hope, you know, that they do the most American thing possible, which is, of course, bombing the ports of pirates all the way back to Thomas Jefferson, God rest his soul. So this kicks off a couple of really interesting situations that do, in fact, bring about the of the Nicholas Maduro regime. So, as you will recall, in 2011, the Obama administration was busy sucking eggs and the rest of the world was kind of left to fend for itself. So Putin was getting frisky with Georgia and Crimea and was starting to signal some Ukrainian ambitions. And at the South American theater of things, Argentina was going through yet another economic collapse, you know, because hyperinflation is an Argentinian tradition or an Argentine tradition. And then in Venezuela, they said, you know what we've never tried in the history of humanity? Socialism. Or as they say in Espanol, socialismo. And they said, we'll do it. We'll make it really excellent. See a little Spanish there and it'll be amazing. It'll be fantastic. And instead, it was a big freaking disaster. And Nicolas Maduro did what dictators do, and he stood in power. And now we are getting information from an ex Venezuelan spy chief, Hugo Carvajal. He has now confessed that the state government of Venezuela, like the actual government itself, is funding not just leftist leaders abroad. You know how you talk to a liberal, or perhaps your friendly neighborhood historian about the CIA, and the very first thing that they mention is that the CIA overthrew a lot of governments for banana companies in Central America. Well, Venezuela picked up that particular mission. Only Venezuela has essentially been trying to do what all communist and socialist governments do, which is push socialist and communist resistances in other countries. Now, not only were they funding particular Colombian President Gustavo Petro, Brazilian President Luis Inacio, Lula da Silva. Wait a minute. Lula da Silva. The guy that I was told was pure as the driven snow and so much better than that stinky old Trump like Bolsonaro. He was receiving Venezuelan drug money. Hmm. Argentina's Nestor and Christina Kirschner. And then of course, Bolivian ex president Evo Morales. Not to mention a little bit of Spanish corruption in Spain proper. So nice to see everything fitting in Hispaniola. Now, what does this mean? Why does this matter? Because at the same time they were funding these socialist movements, According to this ex intelligence official from Venezuela, they were also directly funding narco terrorism. Now, let's be real. You're not shocked? I'm not shocked. No one's shocked. You don't exactly need a toaster and some bath water to be shocked about this. This is a really common sense kind of a situation here. The Venezuelan government is on film giving cartel leaders authority to go out into the world and be missionaries for human trafficking and drug smuggling. Because if it's not pumping out oil, Venezuela really doesn't have that many popular exports. I don't know when the last time you dug into a nice hearty bowl of Venezuelan quinoa, that's just not one of theirs. So not only do we have video, of course, of Venezuelan officials over the years green lighting these kinds of things, not only do we have aerial footage of the Venezuelan ports that are loading the drugs onto said boats, but most importantly, see a little more Spanish there. Most importantly, the Venezuelan ex intelligence official has now revealed a series of records to transfer in 2010 3.5 million euros to various NGOs and oil money to fund narco terror groups specifically to target the United States. Now I just want to make this clear. Remember when you were told by leftist judges that there was no evidence whatsoever that Venezuela might be committing some kind of state action against the United States and so therefore you couldn't just deport trend members under old War Powers act because it wasn't a state government backed group. Well, yeah, it was a state government backed group the entire time. I know. Once again we're all very shocked that the dictator would use illegal means or, or scurrilous means to wage not quite war on other countries. I say not quite war because we're really past the age of where the legislature gets together and they declare war and then you go to the ambassador from that country to yours and you give them the old monopoly boot out of your territory. That, that those days of declaring war are over. So now we're just in this kind of weird, pseudo eternal cold war, war on terror subgroup nonsense kind of field. And the Trump administration's really not putting up with it anymore. And so as you might recall, the United States has been sending lovely, let's say Raytheon and Lockheed inspired greeting cards to various narco terror boats heading off the coast of Brazil and Venezuela and Colombia and basically anywhere in the South Caribbean that narco terror is getting jiggy with it. Will Smith is there to deliver a Little Lockheed Martin U.S. military Industrial Complex surprise. And again, this rather popular thing. Now of course there are the libs who are out there whining. We don't actually know they're drug cartel individuals, just grown men in A long smuggler's speedboat, I guess, sunbathing in bikini waxing in the southern Caribbean. Which is, by the way, not the nicest place to vacation on the Caribbean. You don't have to be Captain Jack Sparrow to figure that one out. Now, what does the Trump administration do other than sending a couple of well timed hellos to various cartel boats? Well, the Trump administration, according to leaks from the New York Times, has also authorized CIA operations inside Venezuela. And I'm going to be honest, I. When Pete Hegseth and Kristi Noem and Attorney General Pam Bondi and other members of the Trump cabinet got together, DNI, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, they got together at the beginning of the second Trump administration and said, we're returning to our roots. We're returning to our roots in education. We're returning to our roots in kind of World War II. You know, to, to quote Douglas MacArthur, a good swift kick in the ass of the world style military stuff. Then we might as well return to the CIA's favorite pastime of, of having a good operational hoot in south and Central America. I don't know, you get reminiscent patriotic now, you know, right before our nation's 250th CIA is back to having a good time in South America. And this has now really, really worried Nicholas Maduro because he's also losing not only international support on the conservative side, but also from the liberal side. The Nobel Prize Committee in Norway decided to sling the Nobel Peace Prize this year to the most prominent Venezuelan democracy activist who would love to see Nicolas Maduro's greasy fat head. And by the way, I'm, I'm. That's, that's, that's not some kind of a racial type. There's actually a nickname in Venezuela calling him the grease Ball. Yikes. That man needs a desperate shower and skincare routine. She wants to see that head on a platter, right on a platter. And so do a lot of people on the left and the right. So there's really not a lot of international support for him. Well, if there's not international support for him, what other kinds of support might sustain a leader? While there's really not anyone buying the oil at this point, so it's not economic. The Trump administration has effectively cut off the entire narco trade network. Kash Patel, for all of the grief that he's been given over not satisfying people on the Epstein files, has arrested more foreign human traffickers, pedophiles and owners and distributors of child pornography than any administration in the last like 30 or 40 years. And I think a lot of that probably has to do with Dan Bongino, because Dan Bongino has a personal grudge against human traffickers that just so happened to come from the state sponsored activities of Venezuela. And by the way to comment on Rob Art over in the comments, as he aptly put, I bet those cartels are sending their worst out there on those boats. Yeah, yeah. And do you know how we now know this? How we're actually going to be able to find out how the cartels and who they're sending out on the boats? Well, everything went dark yesterday evening. In fact, it was the middle of the night. I was getting ready for a flight that was ungodly early. And producer Nick, he like sends me a message one in the morning. He says, tony, everything's quiet on Venezuela. And I'm like, yeah, dude, it's nighttime, we're sleeping. He's like, no, everything's quiet on Venezuela. I think we might have to go live because I think the CIA might try to go for Maduro. And so he started tracking it as producer Nick is want to do. And what we have found out now as the reason for the sudden quiet in the international community is that the U.S. military last night staged a helicopter rescue to pick up survivors from Thursday's missile strike against the cartel boat and is now holding them on a US Navy ship. That is according to Reuters. So between submarine and helicopter operations that are now happening off the coast of Venezuela again, I'm thrilled the US Navy is getting a good amount of training out of this. I am, I like seeing the Monroe Doctrine enforced now, this 14 hours ago. The White House has also rejected because Venezuela at this point is starting to, well, like Maduro is starting to sweat. The sheen on his face is at an all time high. So the Venezuelan government kind of sends out a little please, oh please, por favor, Senor Trump. And they suggest that Maduro can step down in three years. Will you stop, you know, halting our narco terror operations and not letting us essentially rule the southern Caribbean anymore? If we hand power off to his vice president, Delsey Rodriguez, to finish his term ending in January 2031. What if he steps down three years earlier? You know, come on, is that enough to make you stop? And the White House said no. And then not only did the White House say no, they have announced that essentially Venezuela has now just completely and fully capitulated. And Trump, in his very classic way, dropped the F bomb on national television to explain it operations in Venezuela as part of.
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Donald Trump
Well, I wouldn't say that, but some interesting things are happening around the world, I'll say that.
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Tony Kennett
Mr. President, it has been reported that Maduro offered everything in its in his country, all the natural resources. He even recorded a message to you in English recently offering mediation. What could we do?
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Donald Trump
He has. He has offered everything. He's offered everything. You're right. You know why? Because he doesn't want to around with the United States. Thank you everybody.
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Stephen Kent
Thank you.
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Tony Kennett
I love that. First of all, thank you to Newsmax for providing the clip that actually had the word censored. I'm on the road and opening Adobe Premiere and censoring people while I'm maneuvering through Orlando is not my favorite thing. And everyone on X is just posting the raw, you know, just the full F word. And so we try not to do that to y' all here. Cause it's a family friendly show. Uh, so thanks to Newsmax for providing that clip. Trump just saying the f. A.F.O. i, I don't blame again, after watching Iran, after watching the thing that gave Iran leverage, the thing that Ahmed Ahmadinejad back in the aughts that they were making jib jab videos of him bouncing up and down like a South park impression of a Canadian, that that guy's leverage, his legacy was eliminated after Hegseth thought, hey, let's fake out the media with some bombers heading this way, swing around the other side of the world and have some guys and gals from Missouri and eliminate Iran's nuclear program. And also a couple of ships from the Navy will launch a couple of missiles over. Now those missiles from ships are flying in the southern Caribbean and Maduro is making Madudu. He's a little nervous. Sorry, that was really bad. It's a very awkward situation that will end up with Humpty L Dumpty having a really, really great fall and a really rough autumn. So the kingpin is in fact on his last gasp. And by the way, Trump's not only trying out this strategy that worked very well in Gaza, very well in Iran, very well with India and Pakistan, now very well with Venezuela. He's also stretching out this strategy with Vladimir Putin. And the idea is the President says, well, if you're not gonna work with me, Vlad, then maybe Zelensky wakes up and like in the Godfather, instead of opening the covers and finding a horse head, he finds 200 U.S. tomahawk missiles. And you know, Russia's not really a fan of US munitions beating the ever loving crap out of Whatever was pumped out of the latest cheap Chinese alloy mines. Anyway, here's, here's the President of the United States on Tomahawks and Putin. If you okay, Tomahawks to Ukraine, what's going to happen if the United States is in a conflict and we need the Tomahawks?
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Donald Trump
Well, that's, that's the problem. We need Tomahawks and we need a lot of other things that we've been sending over the last four years to Ukraine. We've been, you know, we gave, we gave them a lot. Now we have a different situation. We send it to the European Union, they pay for it and all that. And they have plenty of money. But we, it's beyond the money. You know, we need Tomahawks, so we need a lot of other weapons that we're sending to Ukraine. And one of the reasons we want to get this war over is exactly that. It's not easy for us to give you talking about massive numbers of very powerful weapons. So that's one of the things we'll be talking about. Hopefully they will.
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Tony Kennett
By the way, I want to make this rather clear. I really, really, really want more than anything the Russian government under Putin to get enough of what Trump is advertising here so that finally, finally, at the end of the day, you have a kind of an awkward coup situation. Uh, cause, you know, again, I, I'm, I'm very reminiscent and I think the last Soviet coup wasn't entertaining enough. You know, going back and watching the 91 coup, I think it'd be kind of funny this way. Modern memes would be amazing. I, it's, honestly, if I had to make a prediction. The Russian government under Putin, which we're getting reports, is getting a little bit nervous. Again, none of this even has to do with Ukraine itself. But if Trump continues his strategy, doing what works as Trump off does, well, Trump usually ends up getting significant results. And that's a good thing. That is a very, very good thing. Now, sorry, just to address a, a, a, a comment from Peyton Walter, who was so intent on sending this to the rest of the show. He, he made this a $200 super chat. He said, hey dude, here's some money. Hire someone to teach you how to do the Matt Damon from Team America better. I was a little disappointed since you normally do great with that stuff since I just did the Trump accent. So in, in, in Team America, which is a, you know, comic kind of a doll style movie from, from times gone by, they portray Matt Damon is just repeating his own voice over and over, because they think Matt Damon is an idiot. And you know, they're correct. When Matt Damon tried to be political, it was embarrassing. So the joke is that every time Matt Damon was on screen, he would go, matt Damon, Matt Damon. So I will work on that one for you. Now back to the news. Because while the Trump administration is trying strategies that work, Democrats are trying strategies that.
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Zoran Mamdani
So.
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Tony Kennett
I don't know how I can express how insanely rare this is in politics that you get this close to major elections and there's no cohesive function in the opposition party. None. I've seen a lot of people making fun of a video of Mitch McConnell falling down this week at the Capitol. And given that in the Obama administration, the reason that Republicans did as well as they did and keeping the Obama administration for getting a whole lot worse is because of the effective leadership of Mitch McConnell at the time. Now, Chuck Schumer should be able to lead some kind of opposition. There are Democrat proposals, but they're from Fetterman, and they're like, way more moderate and they kind of sound like Bill Clinton. And if it's an economic policy that sounds like Bill Clinton, that gets kind of close to Trump in some ways. So what are Democrats doing instead? Well, they've decided to take the most popular member of the Democrat Party with the country, John Fetterman. Among both parties, he's the most popular member of the Democrat Party. And they are now, according to Axios, planning to primary him. Top Democrats in Pennsylvania, according to a scoop from Holly Otterbean over at Axios, are maneuvering to run against Senator John fetterman in a 2028 primary contest threatening to tear the party apart in the biggest battleground state in the nation. I do enjoy reading an Axios article. We're going to get to why they're freaking out. It's a lot more simple than they make it out to be. But the Axios articles always do a why it matters at the top, which is editorializing for the record. It's not nonpartisan news. There's no news that's nonpartisan. They say why it matters. Democrats haven't flipped a GOP seat since Fetterman did it in 22. He's still popular with Pennsylvania voters even as Democrats turn on him over his softened approach to President Trump. What is Fetterman's softened approach to President Trump? It's in two different ways. Well, three. Number one, he doesn't hate Jews. And, you know, given Zoran Mamdani, who we're going to get to that's kind of a problem. Uh, but the, the main two ways that Democrats are furious over Fetterman. Number one, Fetterman's voted in favor of keeping the government open. He's one of the two and a half Democrats, of course, Cortez Masto of Nevada, and then Angus King, the Independent from Maine who caucuses with the Democrats and votes with them 99% of the time. Fetterman also has voted with Republicans to keep the government open. Now, here he was on a News Nation town hall saying that the shutdown is a very stupid thing and Democrats have really hurt themselves in electoral chances.
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John Fetterman
That's why shutting the government is. Is really what the Democratic Party wants to do. And I follow country, then party, and it's the wrong thing for the country. In a period of chaos, I refuse to vote to shut our government down. I absolutely would love to have. I would love to have a conversation about extending the tax credits for health care. Absolutely. But I would remind everybody, too, this was designed by the Democratic Party to expire at the end of the year. This is not something taken from. By. By the, by the Republicans. That's. They were designed to expire.
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Tony Kennett
Yeah, he's correct. And first of all, props to News Nation, who is making every effort. There's a lot of conversation right now about CBS trying to be more neutral and them buying out Barry Vice of the Free Press and putting her on as the editor in chief and that being a good moderating force. News Nation with nexstar independently has put a series of hosts on their. Their station that are. They've got Bill O'Reilly on there. They have the Cuomo that's not running in New York. They have a lot of really great crew. And they do try to, when they, when they panel people, they do try to find the Republican strategists and the Democrat strategists to debate each other, who are, like, pretty similar. It's a rather fair news network. So props to nexstar and to News Nation for hosting town halls like that. It's a lot better than the. Well, the Bernie and AOC arm flapping fest. Now, the other reason Democrats are extremely mad at John Fetterman is first called, first of all, because he got a lot of applause for saying the Democrats shouldn't have shut the government down. And then, number two, Fetterman. This is the big sucking up to Trump. Fetterman says Trump's not a Nazi. He says conservatives aren't. Aren't fascist Nazis. That's it. That's why they hate that's why Democrats right now are planning to oust Fetterman. Check it out.
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John Fetterman
I'm the only Democrat in my family. I grew up in a conservative part of Pennsylvania. And now I grew up and I, I knew. I know. And I love people that voted for President Trump, but they are not fascists. They're not Nazis. They're not trying to destroy her, the Constitution, those things. And that's part of another thing. I refuse to call people Nazis or fascists or. I would never compare anybody, anybody to Hitler and those things. And now that kinds of extreme rhetoric is going to continue, we're going to be more likely in. Resulting in extreme kind of outcomes.
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Tony Kennett
And just to pause and interject here, not only is he absolutely correct, there is a reason that I call him. There is a reason that I call Fetterman, Senator Betterman. That. That's. That's moderate. That's moderate. Okay, good stuff. And by the way, there are Republican moderates who constantly extend all of branches over to the Democrat side of the aisle. Constantly, constantly do so. Representative Mike Lawler just walked up to Hakeem Jeffries, handed him an extension on Obamacare subsidies and said, here you go. Here's this bill. You can vote for it right now as its own independent thing. It extends the Obamacare subsidies even beyond what the continuing resolution would have with the Democrat demands. All you gotta do is you cannot use any of it on illegal immigrants. That's the only thing. But you can have the rest of all care. That's a very moderate Republican thing to do. Fetterman does this. And it's rare. Republicans do it. And it's common. It's very common. Again, I mentioned Mitch McConnell. Mitch McConnell gets a lot of criticism right now for being a, an overly moderate Republican, along with Lisa Murkowski and the other one. One. The one from Maine, Susan Collins of, Of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska. Sorry, there's, you know, oatmeal. So it's really weird to watch the Democrats make that their target. What are the kind of people Democrats want? Democrats want people who are just going to get out there and say, okay, I, I know that what we tried during the Obama administration, where we targeted Trump and threw Steve Bannon in jail for contempt of Congress and all of these other political prosecutions. I know that was, like, not popular at all. So instead, now we're gonna get JB Pritzker out of the golden corral, we're gonna prop him up with some, I don't know, reinforced steel girders and have him threaten to arrest. Are you ready for this? White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller.
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Unidentified Caller
The people who serve for the President, including all the way down to ICE agents, can be held accountable when there's a change of administration. Who's willing to hold them accountable when they break the law? Now, Stephen Miller is clearly ordering people to break the law. So, you know, he should know that. Yeah, it may be three years from now that he is held accountable, but make sure. I think it's important for them to know that whatever they do now, it's not like we're going to forget, and it's not like we don't have a record of what they're doing. So that is why I mentioned Stephen Miller. That's why I mentioned other people. Tom Homan and Gregory Bevino, who's the CBP leader on the ground, the one who executed their orders in Los Angeles, which was. I mean, they did an awful job in Los Angeles and create.
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Tony Kennett
Wow. The Border Patrol guy patrolled the border. Oh, no. Oh, can you imagine Border Patrol actually, you know, enforcing border law in the United States? Quick, somebody arrest him. Oh, no. What are they. What are they going to bring Stephen Miller on charge? Hey, Stephen Miller is bald. Got him. Because, I mean, I'm going to be honest, the rest of the. That everything else about Stephen Miller is pretty excellent. I'll be honest. I think Stephen Miller looks a little better balled. I don't even think that charge lands. They're really up a creek here. And, well, this brings us to some of the lawfare decisions coming out of the Illinois super market of issues. And I didn't just want to let you guys hear my take on why I think a lot of these new injunctions and you can't deploy the National Guard and you can't do this. I didn't want you to just hear that from me. So we got one of the best immigration lawyers in the country, Darren Smallcomb. I do not know how producer Lou actually got him to give us a little bit of explanation here. Um, but we recorded this yesterday, and given some of the legal updates today, it's probably one of the best timed interviews we've ever run. Here you go. While the federal judge rulings are coming out quicker than Waffle House orders, the latest, that the ICE agents making arrests in Chicago need to wear body cameras. I feel like I've heard this one before. To talk about these and other nonsensities, we gotta go to the mastermind of immigration and other legal matters, Darren Smallcomb. Good to have you, sir.
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Darren Smallcomb
Nice to see you, Tony. Thanks for having me.
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Tony Kennett
So I know that we could talk about some of the goofy. You can't deploy the National Guard here, you can't deploy federal agents here. Kind of things right at the top of your mind. Prior orders on law enforcement to wear body cameras, they usually come from the left and they don't usually end up telling the stories that are expected once that footage is released.
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Darren Smallcomb
Yeah, that's kind of been a big backfire over time. For a lot of people that wanted to show police brutality, it's shown quite the opposite, actually. And ordering ICE to wear body cameras, too. I'm not really sure where the jurisdiction is there to force that, quite frankly.
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Tony Kennett
Well, when has jurisdiction stopped federal judges like these? You have individuals in the, maybe not the federal judge level, but at the Cook county level in Chicago saying that now ICE agents are not allowed to make arrests inside. Well, they're not allowed to make civil arrests inside certain city properties. I wasn't aware that city judges or county level judges had the authority to restrict federal law enforcement from upholding federal law.
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Darren Smallcomb
No, they don't. I mean, that'll play out in the courts, and it's a little bit more nuanced than that. But ultimately this is a federal operation with ice, and so a local magistrate saying you can or cannot not do this on some sort of state property is probably. It's not going to hold more than likely, and in fact, they may just disregard it.
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Tony Kennett
So I don't mean to throw you in the side of strategizing for those who are in opposition to legal measures, in opposition to law enforcement upholding the law. If you were setting up a campaign in which you wanted to regain public trust on the left side of the aisle in this case regarding immigration law, how would you do so without doing whatever this elementary school jury show is doing?
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Darren Smallcomb
So I do the exact opposite of what they're doing. And it would be the fair thing to do, which is number one in the idea of what they call a sanctuary city, which is anything but. It may be a sanctuary for criminals, but not for those that live there. And so if they said, okay, look, if somebody gets arrested that doesn't have status, we're going to turn them over to ice, that's going to be our policy going forward. That would be the best thing for all the other immigrants that are involved. Because right now, the fallout from these raids, look, ISIS and trying to get Abuela and kids and anybody else that hasn't broken the law, that's not on their priority list. But when you release a criminal and he goes back home and is an apartment with three or four other people that are undocumented, the ICE has to go in there and the other people.
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Stephen Kent
Are going to get caught up in.
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Darren Smallcomb
It too, even though that wasn't their intent in the first place. They just want the criminal. And so that would be a really big start is to get the criminals off the streets and make their job a little bit easier. And then we can come up with a little bit more comprehensive policy of how to work on the prioritization of other people that are here illegally.
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Tony Kennett
And that's one of the things that I've been most interested in seeing, is some kind of a moderate approach coming out to not get essentially slaughtered in the midterms, which appears to be ever so more the case as we approach next year. Which brings me to how I know you've seen some more moderate suggestions from John Fetterman in Pennsylvan. Cortez Masto in Nevada tries to be avoiding the question whenever she has the opportunity. You have some representatives in the House that are trying to be a little careful here. When are we going to see a governor, I might ask a Josh Shapiro, maybe a Jared Polis finally admit that some kind of immigration measures on that you've described maybe handing over the criminals directly from perhaps state law enforcement institutions to the federal government. When are we going to see those calls or are we going to see that from a gubernatorial. Pritzker and Newsom obviously are the opposite end of that.
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Darren Smallcomb
Yeah, you're not going to see it from a Newsom or somebody where, look, I mean, we have a census coming up. It may happen sooner rather than later. And the numbers, the raw numbers determine the amount of congressional seats and the amount of electoral votes. So you have a big disincentive on the major population, states like California, Illinois, New York from doing anything in that would affect that because they don't want to lose power. It's really a simple human trait, you know, our political trait. You may see some more moderate governors that are coming up for reelection in states that are split start shifting in that direction and call for some common sense, you know, middle ground, maybe a.
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Tony Kennett
Kentucky situation, a Bashir kind of a movement.
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Darren Smallcomb
You might see something like that. I mean, there are moderates out there. And I do think that right now, because of the political shifts that are happening, particularly over the last month or so since we lost Charlie Kirk, you have a lot of of the middle and even middle left that are saying, hey, I might identify with the other party a little bit more. And I do see that shift happening. It's kind of the, the zeitgeist, if you will. You know, as far as the main population goes. And you're going to see politicians go with where the wind is blowing. That's what they do.
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Tony Kennett
You know what we would hope so far with the shutdown nonsense continuing, there's a kind of awkward stubbornness that is we talked about with Rob Louie. It's infected the party on the inside that there's, you know, discontent and all of that. But I want to get one more legal take here before we have to let you go. This is on the judicial ruling from California that the Trump administration can't fire or lay off reduction in force federal employees right now because it's political. That was the argument that Trump or Russ Vogt had said the word Democrats or said left leaning agencies or sections of departments. And so therefore they can't lay them off. Is there any legal basis for that that's, you know, outside of imagination?
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Darren Smallcomb
Well, I think for a district federal judge, they're really going against the Supreme Court precedents which says they can't make nationwide rulings.
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Tony Kennett
They can only rule like a couple of weeks ago. No, I didn't mean to cut you off. Please continue.
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Darren Smallcomb
No, no, it's okay. I mean, the federal district judges should not be overstepping their bound. They should be if there' a question of law and affecting a certain party, they should rule on the affected party. So if a person says, I got laid off for political reasons, I shouldn't be, the judge can say, okay, you shouldn't be. But he can't rule or she can't rule on the other class members is really what the Supreme Court ruling says.
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Tony Kennett
That's right. That's right. Excellent point, Darren Smallcomb. Really appreciate you. We'll have you back real soon because the legal analysis. Hot and ready. Fresh like Little Caesars. We know you deliver.
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Darren Smallcomb
Nice to see you, Tony.
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Tony Kennett
All right, so I do have a little something special here for you guys on Mandani because they're not. The Democrats are not just losing their mind in legal processes. And Gavin Newsom and Hochul Pritzker, Hakeem Schumer all just yelling at the sky. No, you got the new crew that's coming up behind him. And of course AOC was out there talking about drinkable air. And then she corrected herself right afterward, but still, you know, funny from aoc. And then, you know, we had her talking about Deloitte, the tax and accounting company. Dumping chemicals into the Cleveland river and setting it on fire. But there are other young, excellent, bright young voices that are rising to the top of this garbage island floating in the Pacific that is the Democrat Party. Of course, I'm talking about Zoran Mandani, who in his amazing, incredible debate performance with Cuomo, the one not on News Nation, and then of course with Curtis Silva, he got out there and he performed with je ne sais quoi. Only in this case, it's more like je ne sais communism. And I do appreciate whenever you have someone who is so young, naive and foolish when it comes to believing that they understand how government works, that they just say they're going to wave the magic wand and, you know, out from underneath the unicorn's tail is just going to fly free stuff.
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Zoran Mamdani
Well, I'm proud to say that I, yes, will freeze the rent for more than 2 million rent stabilized tenants. And I will also build 200,000 truly affordable homes across the five boroughs over the next 10 years to ensure that tenants, whether rent stabilized or market rate, can actually have more housing such that they are not being priced out of this city. And finally, I'm also going to make it easier for the private sector to build housing in this city, because what we see today is that it's not labor, it's not materials, it's the weight that is often costing so many so much to actually build the housing we need in this city.
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Tony Kennett
Okay, so I find the last little bit, it's the weight that causes the issue. No, it's the regulation. New York City and Los Angeles have oodles, canoodles and toaster strudels of regulation. And don't get me wrong, I'm really not happy with a lot of building regulations in general. I really can't stand it. When we built the studio in Indiana, I had to wrestle with our own county planning office over things that I thought were aggressively trivial and didn't matter whatsoever. But I got a hand to the left, Zoran Mamdani getting up in front of the country and saying he's just going to freeze the rent and then he's gonna build 10,000 affordable homes in each of the boroughs. And you realize that we got those same promises from Pete Buttigieg about something a lot less difficult to build than a house or an apartment building, an electric charging station. We're talking a little bit of concrete, we're talking the lines from the grid power and then the electrical little system, the little box computer that converts it and monitors how much is spent that Little box and concrete pad. Maybe some asphalt. Maybe if you're unlucky enough to live under Indiana's road construction crews. Maybe it's that chip and seal abomination. Whatever it is, it's a surface and a little charging station. Pete Buttigieg promised he was gonna spread this like Monkeypox did an LGBTQ festival. He was gonna get it out there to everyone, everywhere. And he built, like, seven in all four years of Biden's administration. Now, if you take out his muh. Paternity leave, where Chastain was chest feeding their child in a rather abusive fashion, well, then, yeah, okay, maybe he only had three and a half years. Uh, but as the Secretary of Transportation, he couldn't even build with billions and billions and billions of your dollars. He couldn't get it done. Mandani is gonna, what, walk in like Bob the Builder, and he's just gonna show up with Scoop, Duck, and Dizzy, and they're all just gonna. Ready? And, like, the. It's just gonna get it all together, and it's magically. The buildings are gonna rise from the ground. Incredible. This is their guy. This is their man. This is their. This is their dude that the Young Democrats are enamored with. He says, I'll give you the moon, Mary. I'm gonna give you the moon, and we're gonna make it equitable. And then everyone says, oh, yeah, sure, he can do that. Of course, we already talked about yesterday how he said that Cuomo wasn't qualified to be mayor as a Catholic because he had never been to a New York City mosque. Okay, yes. Ah, the five things to do in New York City. You go to Madison Square Garden. You go to the Statue of Liberty. You visit Al bahid Mosque on 71st.
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Stephen Kent
Yes.
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Tony Kennett
Classic, incredible stuff. This does bring us over to the culture because you do have to laugh at this stuff. Right. If you don't laugh at this stuff, you won't cry, but you will get rather nauseous. And I'm most proud of the nausea that's consistently regurgitating over on snl. Who won't. They won't poke fun at Mandani. They won't really poke fun at JB Pritzker. They don't poke fun at. I mean, again, they're. You won't poke fun at the administration. Cool. Fine. Great. I. Again, I am one of the individuals who deeply enjoys it, especially when memes. Yes. Are even made about yours truly. But in the case of snl, it's just a really weird stretch. But Stephen Kent joined us for some watcha watching. Producer Nick edited the living behoozits out of this and I think you guys are really going to enjoy it. If you're listening to this right now and you're not watching it, do yourself favor, hit pause on your little podcast app and then go to YouTube.com daily signal or rumble.com thedailysignal and check this one out. It's really stellar. Here's this latest episode of Whatcha Watching. Stephen Kent joins us for another excellent episode of Whatcha Watching. Because unfortunately for the rest of us, Hollywood still thinks it's funny. And, you know, sometimes they get a few people who are worth a good chuckle or two. Stephen, how's it going?
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Stephen Kent
That's going all right. Tony, nice to be with you again.
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Tony Kennett
Talk about this weird ice committee hearing Pam Bondi, Kristi Noem knockoff thing that SNL tried to do.
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Stephen Kent
All right, so you know, SNL is, is sometimes win some, you lose some. They, they hit some home runs. They have a bunch of strikes, more strikes lately than usual. But Amy Poehler and Tina Fey returned to SNL this week. Now, I am a big fan. I like Tina Fey and Amy Poehler. I mean, this is Parks and Rec fame and also 30 rock. Tina Fey, I think, is one of the funniest writers in the comedy scene still beeping around New York. And Amy Poehler took on the role of Pam Bondi during her hearing in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee. And then Tina Fey shows up to play Kristi Gnome in in just truly well done fashion.
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Tony Kennett
I don't know, you'll have to ask.
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Darren Smallcomb
Homeland Security director Kristi Noem.
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Tony Kennett
Well, she isn't here. What if she is, though? So I think there can be three things to frame this up as. And I'm assuming producer Nick has already cut in the clips from the episode, but we'll put his editing skills to the test. I'll describe what's going on, and then with some incredible movie magic, he'll throw the clip on screen. So first of all, you do have Tina Fey giving kind of the description of ice and it's pretty funny. Tina's very well done in this sketch. That's, that's definitely the good. You have the just plain bad, which is Amy Poehler. I can't stand her. I think she suffers from, I can't remember the name of the actor, but in all in the Family, the long haired hippie guy, Michael, the son of Archie, their son in law, excuse me, of Archie Bunker. He was supposed to be the guy Everyone loved and he would always, he would dunk on that mean old racist Archie Bunker and everyone would love him. And instead the opposite happened. And Amy pulled went through kind of the same thing in Parks and Rec. Everyone thought, oh, they're going to like her. They're going to be like a lovable Michael Scott kind of a thing. And everyone liked Ron Swanson dunking on her character.
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Stephen Kent
The issue with Amy Poehler has always been in her performances, particularly in Parks and Rec is when she is the most naive, she's the most funny, she's the most hopeful and she doesn't understand how the real world works. And it's okay that she's kind of some squish library Democrat who loves Hillary Clinton, but it's when she realizes that not everybody thinks like her, that she's actually hilarious. But she becomes more and more self righteous and sure of herself as Parks and Rec goes on. And Amy Poehler is something of the same. And her performance as Pam Bondi is I think seizing on the best part of Pam Bondi as an attorney general, which is grumpy and not gonna take your, your crap bad questions. And so she, she bas in to scowl, grumble and sneer at all of the different senators, which, I mean, honestly, me too, right? Like these people are, these people are contemptible losers and not willing of our being taken, being taken seriously.
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Tony Kennett
Now here's the magical third thing because I promised three in my riddles. And the, the first of those, the second of those being, you know, Tina Fey and then Amy Poehler. The last of them is kind of the meta commentary. This is going to sound like the most nerdy. Of course I'm wearing a teal blazer to talk about this. The meta commentary of this is that Hollywood, they've got nothing their best gripe about ice that they could try to portray people joining ICE as these dumb country hicks who couldn't make it in law enforcement is, it's funny to me because I'm kind of sitting back watching the skit and going, they really don't have anything here against the Trump team. This is what they got. And it's kind of sad, but also it's, I don't know, it's like the guy sitting there watching the roast. People are there to roast him. And the people that keep coming up, they just have like lukewarm oatmeal.
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Stephen Kent
Yeah, well, the, the SNL skit when it comes to ice. And Tina Fey is, is giving a very, very good impression of the sort of like deadpan delivery of Kristi Noem, which is honestly amazing. And by the way, Kristi Noem and DHS have used this now this video clip from NBC as a recruiting tactic on social media. You know, the Trump administration leans into.
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Tony Kennett
This stuff, which is so smart. So smart.
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Stephen Kent
Well, they love the fight. It's just like Charlie Kirk, you know, he leaned into south park and was like, this is what I've always wanted. Cultural relevancy. People are taking us seriously. And by the way, that same episode in which Charlie Kirk is featured on south park was also about ICE recruitment. And they had the same message that this is sort of if you're not good enough to be a cop or good enough to be a soldier, you can come join ice and there's a signing bonus for it. So you know what, it's all, it's all good, it's all funny. But snl, SNL does have some hits and misses, that's for sure.
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Tony Kennett
So kind of moving along, along from, you know what I think is kind of well tread ground, well trod ground for us. There's a weird shift in comedy that maybe won't touch with a 10 foot pole. It's just kind of uninteresting at the moment. Or. Yeah, some hits and misses kind of stuff. What do you think about the major stuff that everyone's watching right now? Is there something that everyone's watching that you're just like, nah. Or maybe the other way around.
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Stephen Kent
Man, it has to be Monster. The Ed Gaines Story on Netflix right now by Ryan Murphy. So Ryan Murphy, he is most well known for his show American Horror Story and he also did the Jeffrey Dahmer series as well as something on the Eric Menendez brothers. So he's a, he's a horror director. He also does a lot of LGBT kind of stuff and, and focus on like gay different plots and storytelling and Ed Gain. I mean this is the guy who was the inspiration in many ways for the Silence of the Lambs and the Texas Chainsaw Massacre in the, I guess it was the, the 1940s. He killed at least two women that we know of and turned their skin into lampshades.
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Tony Kennett
Ah, this guy.
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Stephen Kent
Yeah. So this is the guy face masks out of his victims and furniture and decorations. And this is the second time Ryan Murphy has dug in on a major serial killer. He recently did Dahmer. I watched that show, Tony. I didn't finish it. I got about halfway through and then I realized there's no story here. This is just an evil guy who kills people, eats them and has no Nothing going on in his life that is interesting. Like, this isn't a sad story. This isn't a misunderstood puppy dog who turned vicious. This is just an evil person. And sitting down and watching this is kind of evil.
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Tony Kennett
So I've got the hottest of hot takes here on that particular thing. I think that we're going through what America went through in kind of the 60s and the 70s where every hero had to suddenly become an anti hero. And it was dark, gritty. It is like, he's not just a cop, he's a bad cop. Ooh, good writing. And it would kind of enamored people for a little bit. And then it was, it was all done. It was like, whoa, he's not just hairy, he's Dirty Harry. It's like, yeah, but we had that movie like eight movies ago, and this isn't even Clint Eastwood. I mean, people get sick of that kind of thing after a while. I think that we're starting to see this. Thank God. Finally, with the weird obsession with a Halloween. Don't get me wrong, I love me some Halloween, but I don't love the weird, like Anti Hallmark month, where everyone's like, look, they're witches and they're zombies. Oh, it's like you're. Well, you're like 36, you. Disney adult. And then on the other half, you have the people who are obsessed with the true crime things. There comes a point where it's like, okay, you, you, you need to put it down and go outside and touch some grass. And I hope that we're going to come out of that. I mean, Star wars was the movie that broke America out of the dark, gritty realism. Maybe we're about ready for some kind of a new, I don't know what frontier in American media, hopefully. Well, that was.
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Stephen Kent
That's the most naive thing you've ever said, Tony Kennett. We're not gonna, gonna snap out of this. It's gonna get worse and worse.
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Tony Kennett
I defy you. I defy the worst and worse. I want something that actually captivates. I'll give you a great piece of example of how I might hope that we're coming out of here. I've grown really tired with a lot of the kids programming. Even that which is supposed to be good is kind of garbage. Like Daniel Tiger's neighborhood spin off of Mr. Rogers animated show. It just sucks. The characters are awful and just bad content for the kids. We'll get into that another time.
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Stephen Kent
No character development and satisfying arcs. Tony Kennick.
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Tony Kennett
Well, more so. It's just bad programming. I can't stand it. So we've gone and looked at a lot of the old peanut stuff. Apple TV has been creating a new line of kind of true to original form Peanuts content and they've released little miniseries and seasons across different themes with the characters. I gotta tell you, it's really good. Like they did a camp Snoopy kind of a thing and then like a little series on Franklin just in the Peanuts kind of friend group. And it's the same kind of humor that came out of the original Peanuts movies in the 70s and the 80s. It's really enjoyable.
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Stephen Kent
Well, I'm glad, I'm glad you're watching it. You know, I, I miss actually watching since I don't have young children anymore, watching a lot of those series for young kids and seeing what kids are their minds are being shaped on these days. I have no idea. But I learned these things from you.
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Tony Kennett
Last question here. Did you've got slightly older kids these days? Did they go through a Twilight era ever? The weird teen romance vampire stuff?
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Stephen Kent
It was more of an ironic exposure where my millennial wife finally shared the Twilight movies with my teenage daughter as a joke, as a funny, funny haha. The worst three movies that have ever been made. And so there's an ironic fandom in my house. Thankfully not a genuine one.
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Tony Kennett
Okay, I'm glad that you said this. Did you know this is kind of a trend at the moment where people in like our weird sect of the millennials are showing people the Twilight movies for the first time and they are the worst things ever. The reactions are hilarious. If you haven't seen the Twilight movies and you want like a almost the oh high mark kind of of cinematic enjoyment where you laugh at how bad it is. Yes, you need, you need to sit down and watch Twilight.
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Stephen Kent
It's, it's a cultural experience sharing Renesmee the Vampire Baby with Gen Z. When they finally watch the Twilight movies, this baby shows up on screen from Twilight and we go, for some reason they afford to have a real baby on screen in this major motion picture. So they have some sort of monstrous baby doll named.
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Tony Kennett
I'm still, I'm still amazed that you've got on one side of cinema you had Napoleon Dynamite and on the other side you had had vampire baseball. And that's just what life was like in like the mid aughts through the financial crisis. Just incredible at snl. Take notes.
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Stephen Kent
We had, we had a good childhood.
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Tony Kennett
Stephen Kent, you got anything good? Coming up on Geeky Stoics. You guys have been pulling some excellent videos over there. Some great cultural analysis.
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Stephen Kent
Oh yeah, for sure. Well, I will just kind of tease again for your audience. My second book is in development right now to come out in 2026. It's called Focus Determines Reality. It is Bas the Geeky Stoics book. Looking for wisdom and philosophy in a lot of your favorite stories ranging from the Lion King to Tolkien and Narnia and Star Wars. It's a, it's a great book. Spent a lot of time this week moving it towards the finish line and so highly recommend that you get in touch with me over@geekystoics.com and you can sign up to pre order the book here soon.
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Tony Kennett
And of course heading over to your YouTube channel, Geeky Stoics. Great video on JRR Tolkien, the The line about why stories matter. Excellent stuff. Highly recommend it. Stephen KE so much for joining us.
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Stephen Kent
Thanks, Tony.
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Tony Kennett
All right, so just a few mail time questions to answer at the end of this evening. One, because there was a super chat from 15% off at Applebee's, who is a very longtime friend of the show, a true Tylenol American. He's a great dude and he sent a rather teasing message along with a very kind $5 super chat. Again, you can just send in mail time questions, guys, we'll read. You don't have to spend money and tip the show. It's very, very kind if you do, but you don't have to do that. We don't ask you to do so he said, hey Tony, how's that new river book going? Okay, let's have a conversation. So I used to be a middle school science teacher and that means that you often have to condense a lot of junk down really quickly and you have to over simplify stuff. And so yesterday when I was complaining about Alexandria Ocasio Cortez and her weird suggestion that Deloitte, even if she meant instead of Deloitte, dumping like waste into the Cuyahoga River. Cuyahoga river, whatever. In, in Cleveland. That, that river fire in 1969 in Cleveland was caused by maybe not Deloitte, but Dupont, the chemical company. And while I was describing that, I said rivers don't flow north, which is not true. It's not true. The rivers don't flow north. That's something I used to tell my students. That's kind of like an oft myth kind of on rivers. There are kinds of rivers that do flow north. They're essentially like lake dumping rivers. And I got more emails on this than I have on any other thing ever. And they weren't just like, hey, by the way, you're not a middle school science teacher anymore. You just can't like break down and oversimplify stuff because there is like a long, arduous political statement style explanation to this where the answer is essentially like, kinda technically, river systems in this, in this hemisphere don't run north continentally over periods of average, with the exception of the Red River. But many streams and lake dump rivers do run north. Erie has several of those. For instance, water, you know, pattern water tonnage and water table stuff. Either way, it's much easier just to say, hey, look, the answer is I got that wrong. And that's one of the reasons that I tried to be rather enjoyably transparent with y'.
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Unidentified Caller
All.
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Tony Kennett
So very, very, very funny to Matt. Yes, I'm enjoying my book on rivers from each and every one who's, who's very concerned about that, by the way. Yeah, she did say Fire River. She was, it appears she was referring to the Cleveland river, which wasn't an industrial zone. The Cuyahoga or Cuyahoga river, whatever. Cuyahoga, Cuyahogoia. Don't have the text in front of me. That particular river was in the middle of an industrial zone. And it was Richard Nixon, the Republican, who came in and said, yeah, you're not allowed to dump crap into the water. Teddy Roosevelt would shove his cavalry boot up your, you know. So those clarifications aside, another great mail time question this week that I, at least I think is a pretty great mealtime question. You may, you may not like it at all. It's from Jake. Lot of Js, a lot of Ss, but Jake's. It came later this evening after some of the explanations in the Stephen Kent, dude, how old actually are you? You know, all in the family in Hollywood Squares. But then you reference Twilight. Had the Bluey song last night. Daniel Tiger's neighborhood question mark, mark 1, exclamation point. I'm 30 and my dad, he watched a lot of older show like, like TV Land style stuff. And so I grew up on a lot of the excellent classics from the, you know, 50s and 60s with the Andy Griffith Show a particular favorite of mine, then from the 60s and early 70s MASH. Love MASH. And then of course Sanford and Son, all in the family. Love those. But also I have a quite a soft spot for the sitcom Friends. I don't care for Frasier, which I guess if you're a conservative intellectual, we're supposed to love Frasier. And hate Friends. I love Friends. Think it's great. How I met your mother is also really funny. Neil Patrick Harris is a funny actor. Other shows, I don't know, you just. And then, then I have kids, so I, I watch. You're constantly trying to find. Oh, no, I've told people that I'm, I'm 30, and now they're like, you're a baby. Yes, I'm young. The beard adds a little bit. But alas, as the, as the very last of the millennials being torn kind of between two generations, we didn't have Internet growing. I know for the majority of this audience who is, is older than I am, obviously didn't grow up with Internet, duh. But we also, about halfway through the middle school to high school era, we did get Internet. And so I got like the new age electronic media, Internet information age into the memery and that kind of stuff. And then also I enjoyed essentially kind of older TV up to the, up to the modern stuff. Although my remembering of Hollywood Squares is not the older version that Nick put in that one Whatcha watching Interview. My version of Hollywood Squares was the one where it was the America's Funniest Home Videos guy. And it was, it was on it like late 90s, early aughts. So. I have shoes older than you, Tony. I have shoes older than me, too. My, I still wear my, my great grandfather's shoes. We're gonna lose half the audience now because I've admitted that I'm, I'm, I'm 30. I'm so sorry. It doesn't bother me if you call me youngin. I'm, I'm, I'm very, I'm very okay with that. Ever read a 1611 KJV as an independent Fundamental Baptist armored dodo? Yeah, I do in fact, read from the kjv. Not because I believe that's like the only version of the, you know, the only translation of the Hebrew, Aramaic and Koine that's any good. I just grew up reading the kjv and I like it. I think that again, I'm actually getting ready to start reading the Hobbit to my kids because my son right now is obsessed with dragons. And so my son's going to learn about Bilbo and Smaug, and I'm excited about that. Big words are cool, even if, you know, you don't use, you know, even if you don't use big words and everything last. Just a final thought on this Moms for Liberty trip, because I came down to speak of this Moms for Liberty thing, their. Their joyful warrior summit. And as the very first journalist ever to cover Moms for Liberty, I have, I have something of an affection for this organization, for the women, the strong mothers who advocate for parental rights and by the way, advocate for teachers a lot better than any teachers union ever has. So just a couple of thoughts, because in the last week, I've seen a lot of really hot takes over what we covered before a lot of other people could shove their garbage out that political article about the Young Republican group chat where some fat dudes in their 20s and 30s said some gross and stupid and dark humor stuff and some awful stuff as well, and, you know, got leaked because they're idiots who posted things on the Internet they thought would never get out there, there. And it's kind of split the overly online. Right. So those who spend way too much time on X on Twitter, there's a big portion of the right that is arguing with themselves. And now I am down here and watching some of these adults in real time who are larger, major influencer individuals who are arguing with each other about it. And, and there's this attitude right now where you basically need to take one of two sides. Either you need to spend all of your time denouncing anyone, all the time, cut off friendships, throw them into the dumpster because someone thought that making a racist joke is okay. And so if you don't spend every single day telling everyone just how bad that was, then you're awful. And that's the other side. The other side is. Well, I mean, what they said was actually really good. And you shouldn't criticize it because the right needs to unify. And that means leaning into everything that happens. And you need to, like, really cling to it. Don't, whatever you do, don't criticize the guy's group chat, because they're just joking. And actually, it's good that they joked about that. No, they have now grown, by the way. I'm going to tell you what Twitter's going to be like tomorrow. They've now grown into the biggest extremes where one side, the side that says you need to basically, you need to do penance, you need to walk down the street swinging incense and shouting about how bad things are, like slamming the Overton window kind of a thing again. And then on the other side, you've got the crew that apparently is just all going way over to the far right. They're just a bunch of neo Nazis. And if we don't stop them, the whole party is over and we're all gonna die. And so you're essentially, you're either a cuck and you've been suckered by the moderates and the rhinos, or on the other side, you're a Nazi and you also have an American flag with a weird swastika stripe thing in the middle of it. I don't believe any of that. I don't believe in any of that. I don't believe in either of those two groups on this. Guys. It's an incredibly optimistic time. It really is. We are in a position where there have been things that, as you guys pointed out, some of you have been fighting battles that I joined. You have been fighting these battles longer than I have been alive. Things like education freedom, things like second Amendment rights, things like overturning Roe versus Wade, things like the profit of merit rather than picking someone based on skin color or whatever organs they have. We have now, some of these fights, they have been won or major victories that, that are more so than in decades past entire administrations could not do what not just the Trump administration's executive order, but Congress, the organization that never does nothing except waste my time and Americans themselves in, in primaries and local government and just raw activists advocacy that we have shut down the entire cancel culture movement that ruined American media and had transgender dudes manning, pun intended. The NFL advertiser advertisements in Bud Light, which was supposed to be the American beer. Now that's changed. These are victories to celebrate. I am incredibly optimistic. I have, I have a really big honor getting to do this show for you. Rob Bluey, the president of the Daily Signal, right around the time of the rnc, he approached me and said, hey, I like your. Your Tony Kenny cast your little. The show we're doing on wibc, it was doing okay. And he said, what if you did that for the Daily Signal? And we took it on and you kind of became like your thing. And I said, okay, we got to change the name because I hate the name. And he said, no, and that's a true story. And we made it our whole thing. And now I have gotten to spend so much of this time getting to know people like you in the community. I've had an amazing time getting to speak to heroes, I mean genuine heroes of mine. I've gotten to communicate on a. On a face to face first name basis. It's. It's unreal. And we're getting to see all of these incredible victories and to see people right now with their heads in the mud thinking that it's all over and oh, it's, it's just, you know, oh, we're, we're in this position where we're never going to recover. And the right is splitting right down the middle. The left desperately needs the right to have a split down the middle civil war because the left is currently in the middle of one. It's dying. The left is dying. And the left has only one hope, one singular hope to win in the midterms and save their party. And it was expressed by, for example, the Rose. I don't know if it's Rose City or Rose County, Andy. No, have to correct me on it. In Oregon in the After Action, the Rose City antifa group, the far left domestic terror organization, they expressed this in Oregon right after Charlie's assassination in Utah. They had an after action report. And what they said, one of the key lines was we need to encourage this like, Israel issue on the right to blame things on the Jews into Israel. And because it's, it's currently trying to split the right. Right. And so two things have happened. You have a lot of people that have leaned into it foolishly and then you also have a lot of people who have overestimated how many people actually believe that. When you look at the polling data, it's like next to nobody. And so you're, you're in this like weird doomer self depressive state where you go on Twitter and you see people, you know, saying rude things. You're like, oh, that must be everyone around me. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. And I'm not saying you don't have to care about those things. Absolutely. Are there times to call things out? Yep. Are there times to get upset? For sure. Are there times to make fun of the Cracker Barrel reband? Yeah, that'll be 8. 99. There are times to get a little upset, for sure. Usually every time I read something about the Loudoun County School District in Virginia, it's depressing. But every once in a while, and I'm not trying to be holier than thou here, I'm not trying to impress you with some amazing theological intuition here. Please don't take this condescendingly at all. I think that it's inherent on Christians to remember that we are called to be thankful not only for things that happen directly to us, but for things that happen around us. And I've had to remind myself, because I get into the weeds on that, that, that yeah, it is okay to recognize. Yeah. That it's a pretty cool time and we can be thankful to God and thankful to those around us for some of those victories. Because if you're going to run a marathon, you have to train and celebrate the little victories on the way until you can run that full distance. I'm not meant to be deep or philosophical. I despise running. Why I was a long distance track coach, I have no freaking idea. But that's another tale for another day. So we'll see you guys on Monday at 7pm Eastern, back in the good old home studio, where producer Nick can tell me that I played the wrong clip or said rivers flow a different direction. You guys take care. Go touch grass. Spend a little time with your family. Go to church. On Sunday, it's the Tony Kinnit cast here on the Daily Signal, nationally syndicated, first on 93 WIBC. You guys take care.