Ep. 450 - Democrats Call for Military Rebellion, House AND Senate Pass Epstein File Release

Summary

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The Tony Kinnett Cast – Ep. 450

Date: November 19, 2025
Main Theme: Upheaval in Congress around the Jeffrey Epstein files and an explosive call by Democrats that some interpret as encouraging military insubordination; plus, corruption, crime, and power in American politics.

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Episode Overview

Tony Kinnett hosts a whirlwind episode exploring two urgent news stories:

1. The dramatic, rare bipartisan momentum in Congress to fully release the Jeffrey Epstein files, sparking controversies across both political parties.
2. A contentious new video, made by congressional Democrats, seemingly encouraging military and intelligence officers to disobey orders they individually perceive as illegal—a move Tony slams as bordering on sedition.

Kinnett dissects these events with trademark sarcasm, hands-on reporting, and direct interviews with figures like Daily Signal president Rob Bluey and Congressman Tim Burchett. Also woven into the episode: discussion of congressional ethics, city crime, and familiar guests' memorable one-liners.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

I. Congressional Push to Release the Epstein Files

[00:34–09:55]

• House and Senate Move Rapidly:

  • The House passes the Epstein Files Transparency Act (HR4405) 427–1, overriding grand jury protections.
    • Clay Higgins (R-LA) was the only ‘nay’—cited privacy concerns if individuals’ names were simply CC’ed in emails ([01:47]).
  • The Senate, as Tony jokes, moves with “unprecedented speed,” passing it by unanimous consent within hours ([03:55]).

• Tony’s Commentary on Congressional Efficiency:

  “The House and the Senate freaking know how to pass bills. They know how to pass bills. That it doesn't take three and eight months... No, they can come through and say, you know what, screw reading it eight times, screw all of the amendments. We're passing the bill. There you go to the president's desk.” ([04:56])

• Bombshell Leaks:

  • Oversight Democrats “leak” a few emails, which the House GOP responds to by releasing tens of thousands.
  • Key Revelations:
    • Epstein appears to have coached Rep. Stacey Plaskett (D–VI, non-voting) during a 2019 oversight hearing by text—suggesting specific lines of questioning and operational details on going after Trump ([07:44–09:55]).
    • Emails also indicate fundraising links between Epstein and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries’s 2013 campaign post-Epstein’s 2008 conviction.

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II. Partisan Fights: Censure and Counter-Spin

[09:55–16:28]

• Censure Resolution Against Plaskett:

  • House Republicans, via Rep. Ralph Norman, move to condemn and remove Plaskett from the Intelligence Committee for coaching by a convicted felon, Jeffrey Epstein ([09:55]).

• Democratic Response:

  • Katherine Clark and Jamie Raskin argue that Epstein was Plaskett’s constituent, the texts were not illegal, and the GOP is being “partisan” ([12:02], [14:08]).

• Tony’s Satirical Take:

  “Now, it would be very sexist and inappropriate for me to say. It's just like a woman to get up and immediately evade the matter at hand and start talking about something unrelated. Jim Jordan was mean to me and also the late representative Cummings, you know, may he rest in peace.” ([12:20])

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III. The Democrats’ “Military Rebellion” Video

[22:26–26:46]

• Seven Congressional Democrats (several veterans) release a video calling for military and intelligence members to ‘refuse illegal orders.’

  • Clips feature demands to “stand up for our laws” and “refuse illegal orders,” stirring up debate about chain of command and the correct way to address questionable directives ([22:26–25:22]).

• Tony’s Fierce Critique:

  “That's an incredibly dangerous thing to put out at any given time. Saying you need to take your understanding of what constitutes a legal order or adheres to the U.S. Constitution into your own hands. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Absolutely do not do that.” ([26:48])

  • Tony suggests this possibly violates 18 U.S. Code § 2387 (activities against military discipline), not technically “treason” but potentially “sedition” ([27:03]).

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IV. Crime, Immigration, and Blue City Politics

[32:54–41:54] (with Rob Bluey of The Daily Signal)

• DC Crime Down, National Guard Credited:

  • National Guard presence returns relative calm to DC, though other cities like Chicago face severe crime spikes—highlighted by a horrifying attack on public transit ([33:05], [35:04], [44:42]).
  • Contrast in approaches: DC Mayor Bowser’s silence versus mayors of other large cities critical of Trump’s federal law enforcement measures.

• Dems’ Crime and Immigration Language Shifts:

  • Notable that figures like Cory Booker are now criticizing ‘defund the police’ rhetoric; recognizing political suicide in heavily blue urban areas ([36:13]).

• Congress and Affordability:

  • With Trump’s administration focusing on affordability/anti-inflation, both Tony and Rob see a mid-term battlefield around housing, healthcare, and economic relief ([38:24–41:54]).

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V. Insider View: Rep. Tim Burchett Interview

[53:59–67:17]

• Cynicism About Congressional Ethics:

  • Burchett details bureaucracy/graft: he can’t sell homemade skateboards without hiring a lawyer, but “if I want to do insider stock trading, I can just become a member of Congress.” ([55:24], [57:02])

  • On staff/lobbyist influence:

    “The lobbyists have the same contacts, they have the same control... what they do is get an attorney. Oh, that's not me. That's my daughter's LLC.” ([57:47])

  • On Congress’s real function:

    “The only thing Congress is actually doing usefully is providing a platform for insider trading.” ([62:08])

• Outsider Identity & Disgust with DC:

  • Burchett works late in his barn, not out “on the cocktail circuit.” He criticizes the cycle of power addiction among congressional leadership ([62:08–64:09]).

| Notable Quotes (Burchett) | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------------------------------|------------| | “I sleep in my office… I don’t run around on my wife. I don’t drink… But it’s very frustrating. If you got a congressman that likes Washington D.C., you better get you another dad gum Congressman.” | [62:08] | | “Leadership is about staying in power, brother. It doesn’t matter who’s in charge. ...Once they get a taste of that, it’s about the entourage, it’s about the Suburban...” | [65:24] |

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VI. Trump and the Media—Daily Humor & Outrage

[69:36–76:10]

• Trump Calls Reporter “Quiet, Piggy”:

  • After repeated pressing on Epstein questions, Trump snaps, “quiet, quiet, piggy.” Tony shrugs off controversy, noting the media’s daily barrage of more severe labels at Trump ([70:03–71:16]).

• Lighthearted Trump Moments:

  • At the McDonald’s investor conference:

    “I'm honored to stand before you as the very first former McDonald's fry cook ever to become President of the United States.” ([72:02])

  • Jokes with the Saudi Crown Prince about being the best president for Saudi Arabia; his signature bombast and bravado on display ([74:27]).

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VII. City Violence & Blue Mayors' Rhetoric

[44:42–48:18]

• Crime in Chicago:

  • Tony highlights headline-grabbing violent incidents left untended by Mayor Brandon Johnson, who instead accuses Republicans of “relitigating the Civil War” ([46:34]).

• Tony’s Critique of Woke Governance:

  “Did he really just admit that he thinks that black people cannot get access to these goods unless the government hands it to them in a handout? Because. Yikes, yikes. And then some.” ([48:18])

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VIII. Key Legal & Policy Updates

• Texas Redistricting Blocked (SCOTUS Review Pending):

  • Federal court blocks 2025 maps over alleged racial gerrymandering; Tony forecasts Supreme Court nullification ([29:30–32:52]).

• TX & FL Move to Designate CAIR & Muslim Brotherhood as Foreign Terrorist Orgs:

  • Covering the shift in statehouse priorities, Texas Governor Abbott’s actions against groups accused of supporting terrorism ([49:00]).

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IX. Mailbag & Q&A: Sedition vs. Treason, IN Redistricting, and More

[77:01–84:41]

• Clarifying Treason vs. Sedition:

  • Treason = betrayal for a foreign power.
  • Sedition = inciting rebellion against your own government ([78:31]).

• Indiana Republicans’ Inertia:

  • Tony laments state-level inaction as “laziness and a weird desire to be stepped on.” ([84:04])

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

| Time | Speaker | Quote | |---------|-------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 04:56 | Tony Kennett | "They know how to pass bills. That it doesn't take three and eight months... They know how to pass bills." | | 13:21 | Producer Nick | "Why does [Epstein] have your phone number?" | | 26:46 | Tony Kennett | "Absolutely do not do that. ...If you are in the military and the order seems wrong, consult a JAG...Don't just refuse." | | 55:24 | Rep. Tim Burchett | "If I want to do insider stock trading, I can just become a member of Congress, but if I want to sell a few skateboards..."| | 70:03 | Donald Trump | (to reporter) "Quiet, quiet, piggy." | | 72:02 | Donald Trump | "I'm honored to stand before you as the very first former McDonald's fry cook ever to become President..." |

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Timestamps of Major Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:34 | Epstein Files: House vote breakdown; Schumer advances Senate passage | | 07:44 | Epstein communications with Rep. Plaskett dissected | | 09:55 | Introduction of censure motion against Plaskett | | 12:02 | Dem response: Clark & Raskin defensively countercharge | | 22:26 | Airs clip of Democrats' “refuse illegal orders” video | | 32:54 | Rob Bluey interview: DC crime, politics, urban safety | | 53:59 | Tim Burchett Interview: ethics, life in Congress, corruption | | 69:36 | Trump’s “quiet, piggy” moment; McDonald's investor conference humor | | 72:02 | Trump as the “McDonald's fry cook” president | | 77:01 | Tony's Q&A: treason vs. sedition, Indiana’s redistricting inertia |

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Tone and Language

• Tony Kinnett’s Tone: Sarcastic, blunt, “middle America” common sense, skeptical of bureaucracy/elite, mixes humor with pointed criticism.
• Guests: Rob Bluey is analytic but affable; Rep. Burchett is earthy, frank, and self-deprecating.

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Conclusion

Ep. 450 distills a night of high political drama into a fast-paced, deeply skeptical commentary:

• Congress can work fast—when it’s motivated.
• Accountability cuts both ways: The Epstein file release ensnares both Trump and prominent Democrats.
• Redrawing the lines of loyalty: With Democrats accused of dancing on the edge of sedition, and city mayors pivoting on police and immigration, old political lines seem radically unstable.
• “Drain the Swamp?” – The episode’s through-line: good governance remains elusive, whether in Congress or city hall.
• Notable advice: Don’t take legal instructions from politicians’ viral videos; consult a JAG!

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For those who missed it, this episode is a crash course in the week’s political theater—with a healthy dose of skepticism about everyone in the spotlight.

Transcript

[Tony Kennett]

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[Rob Bluey]

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[Donald Trump]

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[Donald Trump]

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[Representative Tim Burchett]

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Tony Kennett. Host of the Tony Kennett cast. Let's get down to business. You're listening to the Tony Kennett cast on 93 WIPCYTV here on the Daily Signal. Good evening and welcome to the Tony Kennett cast here on the Daily Signal nationally symbol on 93WIBC. It's good to be with you and I've got a couple of big asks right out the top of the gate. Producer Nick, producer Daniel, out there in your mystical ether, can you keep an eye for the news that President Trump signs the release for the Epstein file release bill this evening. It may be tonight, could be tomorrow. He has pledged to sign the documents because we went from this afternoon that the congressional circus, the absolute cacophony that is Congress right now. Turmoil has engulfed not just the House, but the Senate so fast that after the House passed the particular resolution to release the Epstein files in their entirety, overriding federal grand jury testimony requirements, I'm sure there's going to be oodles canoodles and toaster strudels of legal challenges that are brought Forward about this. 427 to 1. That was earlier in the House today run it. That one who did not. On this vote, the yeas are 427. The nays are 1 2/3 being in the affirmative. The rules are suspended. The bill is passed. The one representative who did not vote in favor, who voted against releasing the Epstein files is Representative Clay Higgins of Louisiana. And he essentially gave a procedural and more of a question about how much information still needs to be protected. He said he couldn't go along with those who might be unfairly targeted because their name might be CC or carbon copied in an email alongside something that was his objection. And then in the middle of everyone on the media coming out with every theory under the sun for how long? Well, did Trump let it pass the House so that the Epstein file thing would, would head over to the Senate and then take forever over there? This was Chris Matthews take over On CNN earlier today.

[Donald Trump]

I think it's awful that these people are obeying him. I don't. The Senate is going to do what it can to logjam this whole effort to get the truth out.

[Tony Kennett]

Yeah, this is huge news. The Senate majority of John Thune now, while Chris Matthews was saying, oh, the Senate's going to log Jan there. There's. There's no chance that they're going to roll this right through as Chris Matthews was speaking, as he was running his mouth with predictions. By the way, don't make predictions about something taking a long time in the House or Senate. It's a rule of mine. I don't like to say, oh, yeah, the House and the Senate's going to take a really long time to do that because you usually end up getting slapped with a wet fish over it. As Chris Matthews was planning the log jam from eternity, Chuckles Schumer shuffled out onto the Senate floor and passed a. Or submitted a resolution for unanimous consent to just pass the Epstein files. As soon as the envelope showed up to the Senate, here was. Chuckles.

[Rob Bluey]

I ask unanimous consent that when The Senate receives HR4405, the Epstein files Transparency.

[Tony Kennett]

Act from the House, the Senate proceed.

[Rob Bluey]

To its immediate consideration. The bill be considered, read three times and passed with no intervening action or debate, and the motion to be. To reconsider be considered made.

[Tony Kennett]

And so there are all of these procedures and rules. We're going to talk about this with Representative Tim Burchett here in a little bit where, okay, the bill has to come in, and then we've got to read it three times and spin around six times and bring it around town and stick out your left knee. And then you got to pass go and. And then we got to bring it back one more time for the parliamentarian. And Schumer stepped forward and said, I have a motion. I'd like to make a motion. He gets out there and he dances a little bit and then says, all right, unanimous consent. Are we all good? Are we all golden? And it appeared then that, yeah, the motion was in fact ready to go. Unanimous consent, an objection without objection, so ordered.

[Rob Bluey]

The Senate has now passed.

[Tony Kennett]

All right. And then he does his William Shatner thing, like Hakeem Jeffries, where he talks for three days. So I would like to remind all of you out there very quickly, as you watch this Epstein situation, the House and the Senate freaking know how to pass bills. They know how to pass bills. That it doesn't take three and eight months. You know, three to eight months. And the lobbyists Come in again, I'm kind of cutting away from Representative Burchett from Tennessee in just a little bit here. But we don't have all these lobbying groups say, hold on, actually we need to consider the Egyptian lobby and what they think. And actually we need to look at how this will impact the flee from Costa Rica. No, they can come through and say, you know what, screw reading it eight times, screw all of the amendments. We're passing the bill. There you go to the president's desk. And the Senate, 100 to nothing went, yeah, why not? And now it heads to the president's desk. So that's why I ask our crew to keep an eye on that and flag me down with large waving armfuls if the president gets to signing it this evening. Now the Democrats in their big effort to make the Epstein the centerpiece of, of life after the shutdown, after as producer Nick has been researching through all of the Clinton foundation documents that were full of corruption that were then sent from the Department of Justice over to the Senate Judiciary Committee. Now here we are with this major Epstein drama. They leaked three emails. So the House Oversight Committee said, you know what would be funny? How about 10, 20, 30,000 of the emails slapped out in public. And there we found some interesting things. Now some of the interesting things that we found is that for example, Epstein asked his brother amid a ranting session about Donald Trump if there was any pictures of Donald Trump giving oral service to this guy named Bubba. Maybe it's Bill Clinton, maybe it's this oil magnet. Epstein said consistently he despised Trump at that point and was essentially asking, do we have any dirt on this guy? There's also very likely I will make a prediction here. You're gonna find something out about Donald Trump complaining about Stormy Daniels, the porn star that he shtupped and then paid to not run around telling everyone about like the one night that they had amid the Ramada in curtains or whatever. That's probably what's likely to be there. But there were also things that the Democrats may not have expected. For example, there's more than just Donald Trump whose names have appeared in these particular emails. For example, Representative Plasket, Stacy Plaskett of the US Virgin Islands, now that's a non voting member of Congress. Say, why does it matter if her name was in there? Well, gee, it just so happens that back In February of 2019 she was sitting in a particular committee that was questioning the Trump administration. And it so happens that Epstein was personally texting Plasket back and forth, coaching her on Questions so that she could go after Trump and his team the most efficiently. Here is if you're watching the live stream, you can actually see in real time the House Oversight Committee and the Washington Post name a weirder collaboration in history. I'll wait. Essentially narrate the texts that she's receiving on her phone. This is my favorite kind of investigative journalism. For the record, Obama was president of the United States, and while we were once driving through a struggling neighborhood in Chicago, he commented that only black people could live that way. So right now it's February 27, 2019 at 7:42am Yeehaw. And you can actually see the text from Stacy Plaskett to Epstein, keeping him updated on the proceedings. In other words, according to the video put together by the Washington Post and the Oversight Committee here, you didn't actually just have, you know, Epstein sitting back watching C Span and then emailing his representative as much as he could? No, he's coaching her through the question session. Attorney client privilege. Yes, I will turn it over. You as my friend. Text from Jeffrey Epstein at 11am a couple hours later message Cohen brought up Rona, keeper of the, of the secrets. She's reading the text right now. Mr. Meadows pointed out, misled this committee even today in a written submission that contradicted your testimony. You have suggested she asks Rona R O N A because you know, she has no idea what she's doing there. And the Virgin Islands sent someone who's barely literate to be in the position of representative that you're going to review that. Did you review? Are you going to review it or were involved in the campaign? As a. She then says, hey, quick, I'm up next. Please tell me what Rona is. Is that like an acronym? Is that a disease? I don't know what's going on. Representative, as a spokesman, even in your words today it was your. He says that's his assistant. And that brings us to her asking the questions. Her idea for the campaign dating back to 2011. Is that accurate? Yes or no?

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Yes.

[Representative Katherine Clark]

Mr. Weisenberg and other individuals. Ms. Rona, who are those individuals? Are they with the Trump Organization? They Are there other people that we should be meeting with?

[Tony Kennett]

So now Plaskett comes forward, taking Epstein's advice again, Democrat representative and member of the committee, one of the ranking members of the committee at this time, I'm told. And here we have Cohen answering some particular questions and she immediately starts going for the people that Epstein suggests. Now that's kind of scummy considering he already had child sex abuse convictions on his file. And so Republicans say, hmm, this is really awkward. This is really weird. We have to send the radio crew to the commercial. We are not done with this. We haven't even gotten to the democrat call for sedition. We're going to get to it. A lot of news tonight. We're going to continue on the live stream. In the meantime, it's the Tony Kinnit cast. Sorry, got to play by the FCC rules because we simulcast on radio. So this brings us to a motion to censure by the republican from South Carolina, representative Ralph Northam. Your honor, I'd like to play the video. Resolution 888, censoring and condemning delegate Stacy Plasket and removing her from the house permanent select committee on intelligence for conduct that reflects the discredibility on the house of Representatives for colluding with convicted felon and offender Jeffrey Epstein during a congressional hearing. Now, by the way, not only did he command Plaskett to, you know, ask certain questions, at one point she was chewing in like she's eating something that for example, my boss despises that I do when I'm on the air. And he was like, stop chewing, you look like a mule. And she stopped. I mean, talk about having somebody buy the belt loop by the car keys. My goodness. So then we get to the emotionalism. I love the emotionalism. If it were the democrats, the proper move here is to shut up. You are getting what you think you want. Don't talk. She's a non voting member from the virgin Islands. Say I'd like don't know her and then let it go. But they didn't do that. So first of all, you have to get Plasket up there. She's got to preach and go, I'm. He was my constituent. So here we go.

[Representative Katherine Clark]

The beginning of that hearing, the ranking member Jim Jordan had the disrespect to Elijah Cummings, may he rest in peace and his name be a memory after not allowing Mr. Jordan to shut the committee hearing down.

[Tony Kennett]

Now, it would be very sexist and inappropriate for me to say. It's just like a woman to get up and immediately evade the matter at hand and start talking about something unrelated. Jim Jordan was mean to me and also the late representative Cummings, you know, may he rest in peace. And you can tell she doesn't even care. She's just trying to evoke emotion. He like got stepped on. That's so rude. These mean Republicans. Oh my gosh. So after she Prattles on for 35, 36 seconds about this unrelated thing from.

[Representative Katherine Clark]

Constituents about what was happening in that hearing. And I got a text from Jeffrey Epstein who at the time was my constituent, who was not public knowledge at that time that he was under federal investigation and who is sharing information with me.

[Producer Nick]

Okay, producer Nick, why does he have your phone number?

[Tony Kennett]

Great question. Why does he have your phone number?

[Producer Nick]

I don't have any phone numbers personally of delegates and cannot text them.

[Tony Kennett]

You're getting ahead of me in the best of ways. You're asking the right questions. Now I have a little bit of a working theory and as to where this particular phone number came from. But we'll get to Hakeem Jeffries here in a minute because right now it's time for Representative Katherine Clark. You say who the heck is that? She's a Democrat from Massachusetts. I know, redundant. She's the minority whip. She gets out here and starts whining that Republicans are being partisan right now. It's supposed to be about stopping Epstein. And these Republicans are. They want to censure someone for working with Epstein. Oh my gosh, here's Catherine Clark.

[Representative Katherine Clark]

Victims of Jeffrey Epstein to have justice and transparency and not. Minutes later the gentleman from South Carolina.

[Tony Kennett]

Is filing yet another partisan resolution. That's right. Work those pearls like rosary beads, my.

[Representative Katherine Clark]

Colleagues to support this motion to refer this to the ethics committee and I yield back my time.

[Tony Kennett]

Okay, so she does a couple of things there. Number one, she talks as slowly as possible to stall as though that will save Plasket no. Number two, the pearl clutching I always enjoy. We're going to get to Jamie Raskin's pearl clutching here in a second. We are going to dig through this news piece by piece because it is worth hearing. You're not going to see this played clip for clip on network tv. They don't have the time. We're going to make time for it. That's right. We got a full on show tonight. We got to bring the radio crew back from commercial. Don't go anywhere. It's the Tony Kennett cast here on the Daily Signal on 93 WYBC. Feels like I'm losing it, y' all friends, countrymen, lend me your ears. Jamie Raskin, the one who just said that the Democrat party is ready to accept Marjorie Taylor Greene with open arms. The same Jamie Raskin, the honorable ranking member Jamie Raskin who preached the virtues of standing up for, you know, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the wife beating illegal immigrant with MS.13 tattooed on his knuckles. He stood in front of the House today and he said he who has not collaborated with a felon sexual abuser in order to question Donald Trump. Let him cast the first stone. Jamie Raskin. Well, they want to give them another headline, which is that they've arraigned a Democratic member for taking a phone call. Two things. Number one, not for taking a phone call, for texting back and forth in a committee hearing, not for taking a phone call. Read the memo, Jamie, before you get in front of the Congress. Number two, he says Republicans want another headline. Think about that for just a second. Put that one in your back pocket and hang on to it for a second. From her constituent Jeffrey Epstein, in the middle of a hearing.

[Rob Bluey]

And of course, I don't think there's.

[Tony Kennett]

Any rule here against taking phone calls in a hearing. Now, that's true. There is no rule against taking a phone call in a hearing. None at all. However, if I'm, you know, chilling out, let's say, God forbid I run for Congress, let's say even worse, God forbid I get elected as Indiana sixth congressional representative and I'm sitting in Congress and, and they put me in a hearing. And all of the sudden in this education hearing, I get a call from one of the numerous teachers in the public school system that has been arrested and has been convicted of doing something sexually inappropriate with a student. And I start taking advice and apparently direction from someone who has been charged and convicted of a particularly grievous, disgusting felony. Well, I think there'd be a little bit of an issue with that. Now, remember what I told you to keep in your back pocket. Republicans want another headline. Who is it that after the government shutdown finished, decided to make this the priority for all media coverage, every congressional statement, every congressional video? Who invited Marjorie Taylor Greene to the party over it? Who made the Epstein files the centerpiece of their entire communication focused post shutdown, post Clinton files, post the disaster with immigration and crime enforcement, et cetera? Oh, yeah, that would be the House and the Senate Democrats now, they've, they've made the Epstein the forefront. Of course, there's going to be stuff related to Trump in the files that's been very, very clear since the beginning. The question is how much is in there. But the question a lot of people haven't asked is what else is in the files? And whenever you play fast and loose and stupid with, oh, let's just get everything right out there right now, today, collateral damage occurs. Collateral damage comes in all shapes and forms, and it absolutely is coming to bite Raskin and every other Democrat in the butt, not least of which, by the way, include House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries. Mmm, womp, womp. James Comer, chair of the Oversight Committee, ladies and gentlemen, colleagues, coordination with Epstein. Another email shows Democrat fundraisers invited Epstein to an event or to meet privately with Hakeem Jeffries as part of their 2013 effort to, to build to win a majority. So Hakeem Jeffries campaign solicited money from Jeffrey Epstein. Now, hang on, you say 2013. That's nowhere near his 2019 arrest. Jeffrey Epstein had already been arrested and convicted of sexual crime in 2008. You know, we're going to get out here and we're going to say, oh, well, Donald Trump back in the 90s, back in the early aughts, you know, he knew when he hung around with Jeffrey Epstein. I would like to remind you that 2013 comes after 2008. It comes after 2009. It comes after his Florida convictions. Now, there have been people that have come out and pointed that this email appears to be from just a campaign staffer. A mass email sent out to everyone. Guys, usually those kinds of emails do not include. Give me a call at my personal number in Washington if you're interested in this. I receive way too many. I got added to a group chat petition thing I didn't want this afternoon. I've been added email lists all week. I get more PR emails in 15 minutes than books. Supreme Court Jackson justice is red. I'm a bad example, admittedly, in this particular instance. I think that it's really not the move you want to go with here to make your House Minority Leader have to answer for again, personal campaign offers, donation requests to at the time convicted Jeffrey Epstein. Now, this brings up Ronna. Ron has been out there with Massey saying, I care. I care about you. I care about the victims. I care about anyone and anything that has worked with Jeffrey Epstein. This is very, very, very bad. I've looked through everything Roana has said. Well, the reporter from Lindell tv again, heck of a reporter that they've got out there in Washington. She gets more upfront questions than I've ever seen a reporter get. Very impressive stuff. She fires off a question to Ro Khanna this afternoon, and the man looks as awkward as Bambi in the second half of the movie.

Any comment on Hakeem Jeffries campaign soliciting money from Jeffrey Epstein himself back in 2013?

It's the first time hearing about it. Wait a minute. The first time hearing about it? Wouldn't you have had like, internal party things that say, hey, I might in Fact be somewhere in this. We've looked through all of our records. We think this is a serious thing. Just letting you know this is the first that you've heard about it. Well, hang on a second there, Skipper. You said that you personally cared. You were interested in anybody that took money or gave money or offered money being brought forward and brought to account, which should happen. Where did Epstein get his money? Where did the money go? Important questions that Americans do deserve an answer for. But regardless of how much Attorney General Pam Bondi botched the initial rollout and finishing up of the initial investigation of the Epstein files, which, for the record, I am now in a position to say that I've seen enough. The number one reason that there's been so much botching of all of these is that too few people have actually read what they have to know what is and has not been released yet. Too much of it laziness, like usual. But if you're gonna get in front of the American people as Ronna or Thomas Massie, and say, I've read everything, and then you're surprised by stuff that comes out, my brother in Christ, it is you who read the files. No, it doesn't work like that. Now, this does bring us over to the worst news story of the day. There are seven congressional Democrats who, some of which are veterans, some pretend to be veterans because they formerly work for an intelligence agency. That's not at all the same thing that have come out to call for something that is truly, truly gross. I'll go ahead and run the clip. Here you go.

I'm Senator Alyssa Slotkin.

Senator Mark Kelly. Representative Chris d'.

Aluzio, Congresswoman Maggie Goodlander. Representative Chrissy Houlihan.

Congressman Jason Crow. I was a captain in the United States Navy. Former CIA officer, former Navy, former paratrooper.

And Army Ranger, former intelligence officer, former Air Force.

We want to speak directly to members of the military and the intelligence community who take risks each day to keep Americans safe.

We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now. Americans trust their military, but that trust is at risk.

This administration is pitting our uniformed military.

And intelligence community professionals against American citizens.

I'm gonna hold the phone right there, folks. Eliza Slotkin, former CIA, saying this administration is pitting our intelligence agencies against American citizens. How freaking dare you? First of all, the Patriot act in the early aughts made it perfectly clear that intelligence agencies interact directly from the left and the right against American citizens. Honey, sista, that. That is. That. That's passed, okay? You don't get to Stand there and say, oh, it's terrible. I will remind you, if I needed to remind you, that in the Biden administration, while groups like the Council on American Islamic Relations, the Muslim Brotherhood, Antifa, all of the other various groups that were causing direct harm to the rest of the country. Black Lives Matter, for instance. Burning down city blocks. No one was investigating them. The FBI had special task forces to do a couple of things. Number one, to illegally tap the phones of US Senators and track their locations. To go after Catholics, to go after parents that went to parental rights. Little school board meetings. That federal troops and law enforcement were fired and dismissed dishonorably for not getting the COVID vaccine. You know? No, you don't. You don't get to pull that one. Sorry, radio crew, we have to send you all over to commercial. We're going to continue on the live stream with the rest of this garbage video. It's the Tony Kinit cast. Like us, you all swore an oath to protect and defend this constitution. Right now, the threats to our constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right here at home.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Our laws are clear.

[Tony Kennett]

You can refuse illegal orders. For those who are listening and are not watching, at this point, it stops with kind of the lower Chiron or the subtitles, and in big bold text, it appears to be Proxima Nova for you font nerds out there. It says, you can refuse illegal orders. That is coming from Senator Mark Kelly. While technically true, there's a big, big issue with releasing a video calling for what they are clearly calling for here. The threats to our constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right here at home. Our laws are clear.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

You can refuse illegal orders.

[Tony Kennett]

You can refuse illegal orders.

[Rob Bluey]

You must refuse illegal orders.

[Tony Kennett]

So now we're encouraging. Now, now, wait a minute.

[Donald Trump]

Who.

[James Carville]

Who.

[Tony Kennett]

Who determines whether the order is illegal or not? Do you as a private, you as an E1 or an E2 out there, you have a clear understanding of what orders are legal and illegal in this country. Are you serious? I've worked with a lot of National Guardsmen in my life. I can tell you. How about no?

No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our constitution.

We know this is hard and that it's a difficult time to be a public servant.

But whether you're serving in the CIA.

The army or Navy, the Air Force, your vigilance is critical. Again, equating intelligence agencies with the military is wrong. I don't like it. The Central Intelligence Agency is important. There is a lot of value to what The CIA does. Equating it with our servicemen and women is wrong. That is wrong. It is wrong. I don't agree with that whatsoever. Neither do Americans.

And know that we have your back.

You have never had service members backs, ever. Not once have you had service members backs. Slotkin supported those in the military getting canned for not taking the COVID 19 vaccine. She does not have the backs of our military. She is a liar. I mean, she's a CIA spook. So there you go.

Because now more than ever, the American people need you. We need you to stand up for.

Our laws, our Constitution, and who we are as Americans. Don't give up. Don't give up. Don't give up.

Don't give up the ship.

Okay, so first of all, that's an incredibly dangerous thing to put out at any given time. Saying you need to take your understanding of what constitutes a legal order or adheres to the US Constitution into your own hands. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Absolutely do not do that. First of all, if you are actually in the military, you are putting yourself in a very rough situation. So if you are in the military and the order seems wrong, consult a JAG outside of your command, make a paper trail and be prepared to ride out the storm. Advice that's just. Don't obey orders you think are unconstitutional. That is stupid, Terrible, awful advice. Politicians do not pay the price. By the way, if a service member guesses wrong on whether an order is illegal or not, Elisa Slotkin, if you say, well, I decided that it was illegal, she's not going to come running to you. No, absolutely not. Stupid. Also, by the way, a lot of people are pointing out that it's treasonous. U.S. code or 18 U.S. code. 2384 does suggest this might involve seditious conspiracy. Prohibiting those conspiring to overthrow, put down, destroy the US Government by force, to levy war against it or to prevent the execution of any federal law by force, that's what a lot of this would incur. Section 2387 though, that's the real kicker here. That's the real kicker here. This would involve activities affecting armed forces. We're going to have to swing to the radio crew and pick them up and we'll just have to play everything on the rest of timing this evening as well as we can. Don't go anywhere. Lots more news to cover. It's the Tony Kinnit cast here on the Daily Signal. It's the Tony Kennett cast on 93 WYBC. Welcome back to the Tony Kennett cast To summarize why it is a very, very, very not good thing to release the video that Democrats again claiming to be veterans, some of them veterans of intelligence agencies, not the same thing as those who are veterans of the United States military saying, well, you need to disobey orders that you think are wrong. No, no, no. And in fact very likely violates U.S. section 2387. Allow me to explain why. I'll throw that up on the screen here as well. This code states a whoever with intent to interfere with that absolutely fits this video impair or influence the loyalty, morale or discipline of the military or naval forces of the United States and advises councils, urges or in any manner causes or attempts to cause causes or attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty or, excuse me, mutiny or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States. Or this would be also where the video comes in, distributes or attempts to distribute any written or printed matter. Videos technically do fall under that according to precedent which advises councils or urges insubordination and the above disloyalty, mutiny or refusal of duty by any member shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, including elected office, for the next five years following his or her conviction. You cannot do that. By the way, the oath is between the service member, their commanding officer and the Constitution. It is the commanding officer which calls the service member to fulfill their oath. It is not some member of Congress. No. That is disgusting. So moving on from that, that brings us to a quick piece of news and then over to some of the updates from the Hill. A federal court has now blocked in a two to one ruling Texas from using its 2025 congressional maps for the 2026 elections. So a three judge panel of the United States District Court for the Western District of Texas issued a 2 to 1 ruling blocking Texas newly enacted 2025 congressional maps, according to the panel finding that they likely constitute an illegal racial gerrymander that dilutes whatever that means, black and Hispanic voting power in violation of the Voting Rights Act. The court ordered Texas to revert to the 2021 congressional maps. So there are a lot of Democrats and Gavin Newsom included saying, oh, democracies won, California has been allowed to stay and Texas has been thrown down. That's not what happened. This federal panel of judges, first of all, they are ruling based on the current precedent of the Voting Rights act, which the Supreme Court is about to throw down with extreme prejudice. So this is not going to matter here in a couple of days when the Supreme Court issues their ruling. Number two, the reason California is not mentioned is that it is a Texas specific lawsuit. So the judicial panel, while according to the Voting Rights act, maybe Texas has kind of violated this, again, it's really up to interpretation. It was a split decision, not going to matter. When the Supreme Court says, yeah, you can't use race as a measure of gerrymandering districts, you can't say, well, this is the black part of the state, this is the Hispanic part of the state. Yeah. No. So moving on from that, I know that we don't necessarily have the, you know, thematic music maybe ready to play here because we've gone a little bit out of order this evening. Well, we'll go ahead and pull it up anyway here from our gorgeous nation's capital, I do want to take you away from the shenanigans to give you some of the updates about what's coming next because once the Epstein stuff is over, you got to go somewhere. So without further ado.

[Representative Katherine Clark]

Bingo.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

It's the Tony Kennett cast with special guest Rob.

[Tony Kennett]

You've heard the Bluey theme. It's time to talk to Rob Bluey, president of the Daily Signal. Good to have you as always.

[Rob Bluey]

Thanks, Tony. It's good to see you today.

[Tony Kennett]

So I'm seeing a lot of coverage out of not Washington, D.C. but some of the crimes in Chicago, some of the crime in Charlotte, some of the crime in a lot of sanctuary cities that I'm told were perfectly nice. And I looked at kind of the rap sheet for what's going on in D.C. right now, and things are still looking a lot safer than they were a year ago. What's, what's life like on there other than rainy and cold?

[Rob Bluey]

Yeah. Well, I was out and about in the city today over in Dupont Circle area and I saw the National Guard still there, still having a strong presence. And so I think that probably the residents of D.C. are grateful for this even if they will not publicly admit it because, yes, the city is safer. It feels safer. And I think that that's a good thing. It's one of the reasons why Mayor Muriel, the mayor, Mayor Bowser is not necessarily taking the same approach that you see other mayors like Brandon Johnson in Chicago and obviously Zora Mamdani in New York City taking this adversarial tone with Donald Trump. I think she recognize that if she keeps her mouth shut and Trump is able to restore Some law and order in the city. It's actually a good thing for her prospects because she's considering a fourth term, running for a fourth term. So obviously she wants to be in a position where she can appeal to voters on the crime issue.

[Tony Kennett]

We talked with Tim Burchett about that a little bit today. The once you get in power, winning the stay in power. But I want to pose the transportation safety issue, because in Chicago yesterday, a man poured flammable liquid on a woman and set her on fire during an argument aboard a Blue Line train inside the Loop, like in the Loop of Chicago. So the National Guard, which is in Washington, DC's Metro at the transfer stops, things like that, they are making sure these kind of incidents don't happen. But Chicago, where I was told and where you were told, where these wonderful, sunny, rosy, amazing places, we're still seeing the arson, assault, attempted murder situations on public transit day after day.

[Rob Bluey]

Yeah, well, Tony, not only was I in Dupont Circle, but I took the Metro to get there. I haven't taken the Metro in years. Right. And you feel safe again in Washington, D.C. to be able to do those things. I mean, public transportation is convenient. It's oftentimes, you know, the fastest way. Sometimes, you know, it was built for a reason, you know, as opposed to an Uber. And it's unfortunate that residents of these cities, like Chicago are sometimes, or Charlotte, as we saw so publicly over the summer, you know, putting their lives in jeopardy simply by boarding a train. And that would. That. That has been a concern in Washington, D.C. in the past. I think it's less of an issue today as a result of the National Guard's presence. And it's unfortunate these other cities aren't taking these concerns as seriously. You know, one of the things I saw pop up over the weekend was Cory Booker was in New Hampshire. And obviously he's somebody who's speculating about a 2028 presidential run, which is why he's visiting an early state like New Hampshire. But he was chiding his fellow Democrats for some of the language and rhetoric they've used against the police, including the defund the police language. And I thought, my goodness, if even Cory Booker is coming around on this, it just goes to show how badly the Democrats botched this one.

[Tony Kennett]

We're seeing this not only on the crime circuit, but also Democrats trying to subtly shift their language on the immigration circuit as well. And when I look at the situation regarding the National Guard, we made the point during the LA riots, criticizing the California National Guard is a really awkward stance to Take whether you're Newsom or whether you're the LA City Council or mayor, because those are Californians in the California National Guard. It's a, it's a weird kind of political suicide to go go after people in your own district, in your own state. And I mean, yeah, I'm sure Cory Booker may have said that up in New Hampshire, but there does seem to be maybe an awareness of how much of the political suicide is taking place. Maybe not in Hakeem Jeffries territory, but I mean, better Booker than none, I guess.

[Rob Bluey]

Yeah. I mean, it's going to be, obviously, if you live in an urban area where you're elected by a 70, 30 margin, you probably are not going to moderate your language. You will continue.

[Tony Kennett]

Hakeem Jeffries. Exactly.

[Rob Bluey]

Well, and that's probably why the only way to take somebody like that out in a political race is through a primary campaign, which now Hakeem Jeffries is facing. And so you have a situation where some Democrats, I think, feel this urgency. I mean, look at Sherrod Brown in Ohio, John Ossoff in Georgia. I mean, these are Democrats who obviously can't have the left wing rhetoric and probably are quite scared that Zoramdani is now going to be the face of the party and the policies that he's advocated advocating will become the norm for so many Democrats. But on the, since you brought up the issue of immigration, I mean, this is one where you're seeing, you know, ICE enforcement happening today in North Carolina. I think that the voters have been, you know, obviously very grateful to President Trump. The polls seem to indicate that they still want to see the president carry out these enforcement measures. They understand, I think, the implications that the 12 to however many more million immigrants, illegal immigrants that came into our country during Biden's four years are having pretty big consequences when it comes to the housing market, the employment of so many people. And yes, it's a good move on the part of President Trump to follow through on that promise he made to the American people.

[Tony Kennett]

So when I look at this kind of follow through on promises to the American people, we look at crime, we look at immigration. Now we pivot over to the economy, where the president has made it very clear that he is putting a lot of attention on affordability. He's working on kind of changing how he approaches the tariff game. The question that I have for you is that by the time we get to the January next continuing resolution fight, because we're all going to be back here again. This time we won't have the USDA to talk about regarding snap, because that's been funded for the entire year. But there will be some questions likely in the continuing resolution fight as to affordability and maybe housing subsidies, maybe talking about, again, we've talked about the mortgages a little bit. What do you see Congress doing, if anything at all, regarding using the affordability language going into the next government shutdown fight?

[Rob Bluey]

Well, sure, I think the best thing that Republicans can do is pass the remaining nine appropriations bills, as you've previously reported on your show. You know, they did get the three done, which includes usda, but there are still nine appropriations bills that they need to finish. And so then that way you won't even have to deal with a continuum resolution. You would just pass them through the normal appropriations process. I have my doubts as to whether or not they're going to do that. And so in the absence of that, you're right. They do need to figure out some of the questions related to affordability or the economic situation in our country. The good news is that because Republicans passed the one big beautiful bill so early in Trump's second term, unlike at the end of the first year of his first term, those effects will start to kick in in 2026. Our colleague Victor Davis Hanson has talked about this on some of his shows about how he expects there to be an economic boom in 2026. Not only the investments that others are making in, but also the effect of the tax bill that has already made it to the President's desk with his signature. So what can they do in the continuing resolution? Well, I think that they need to make sure that they're doing everything possible to not contribute to the inflationary problems in our country. And as I said on CNN this morning, sending people $2,000 rebate checks is not a strategy that I would endorse because that is exactly what Joe Biden did. It's exactly what contrib to the cost of living situation that got out of control during his term. So I think President Trump needs to take a page from the free market economists and, and probably adopt some of those measures that would be more inclined to, to go in the direction of Ronald Reagan than, than a Keynesian.

[Tony Kennett]

And I think this is one of the things that gives me a weirdly subtle optimism at this time. And I know that you and I have talked about this kind of off camera when the President pitches out an idea and then the entire, entire crowd reacts in the varied fashion that he's very used to as an entertainer. Right. That he then does adjust strategy. There are conversations that we know of happening in the administration right now where they're not sure. Maybe we go with the rebate. Maybe we start looking at using some of this in for relief in healthcare, relief in housing. Maybe we use this in funding a government program kind of on the outside. There's a lot of options here. It's weird to see the president in a reverse catch 22 where either way that he goes is going to make a large group happy heading into the midterms. And we know that over at the Daily Signal, whether you're sending Rebecca Downs to Ohio to cover the Sherrod Brown situation or the rest of us bouncing around the country, that we'll try to do our best to display it to the people that are tuning in.

[Rob Bluey]

Well, thank you, Tony. We appreciate you bringing it to the audience every night. It's incredible what you do. And we're just thankful that we have such a loyal audience relying on the Daily Signal for news. So thank you.

[Tony Kennett]

Read it just off the cue card that I gave you. Thanks a ton. Rob Bluey, thanks again for joining us.

[Rob Bluey]

Thanks, Tony.

[Tony Kennett]

All right, let's dig into some of the other externalities for the news cycle here. First of all, just a little bit of an update. Want to bring everyone up to speed on. There appears to be a clause in House Resolution 4405 for releasing the Epstein files. Permitted withholdings would allow Attorney General Pam Bondi or whichever attorney general to withhold or redact the segregal portions of records that quote, would jeopardize an active federal investigation or ongoing prosecution, provided that such withholding is narrowly tailored and temporary. Also concerning things which might clearly be a, an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy, of course, of course, things that depict sexual abuse materials of minors. So those appear to be some of the withholding portions here. We'll update you if anything like that takes place. Uh, but now that that is carried away, I want to touch on Chicago very briefly. A lot of really gross news you heard me allude to in our interview with Rob Bluey. A couple of things here. So first of all, on the update of the 26 year old woman who was set on fire on that public transportation ride in the Loop. She is currently in a hospital in critical condition. The suspect is reportedly in custody. He is a 45 year old man and has 22 prior arrests, including arson. Of course, that's according to WSAZ. So that brings us forward to a couple of other things again happening in Chicago that are very, very gross at the moment the city that I was told and you were told was perfectly safe and amazing and wonderful. Never seen anything like it. Here is a crowd of children, elementary age children mobbing, A pregnant mother with sickle cell anemia. A pregnant mom, sickle cell anemia and her child really dist. Oh, my God. I'm not going to play the rest of the video because it is rather violent. They end up swarming, mobbing her and throwing a lot of punches and kicks. It's rather disgusting.

[Producer Nick]

On her abdomen.

[Tony Kennett]

Say again?

[Producer Nick]

When she falls to the ground, they jump on her, her stomach.

[Tony Kennett]

Very, very gross, horrific behavior. So now the police have finally, after a mob started appearing outside of an elementary school, the police essentially formed kind of a barrier around the school to keep parents who were upset and concerned away and now have taken some of the minors away for questioning. Chicago is an absolute mess. And we're going to talk about a little bit later because we have to bring the radio crew back one more time from commercial. Why this is particularly weird, Brandon Johnson nowhere on his lips. It's the Tony Kenned cast. Don't go anywhere. The Tony Kennett cast on 93 WIBC. So with the Democrats in Congress calling for troops to be insubordinate based on their own perceptions of what they do or do not find unconstitutional, with the idea that now all of a sudden Democrats are. Now we don't like it when the federal government upholds federal law. Now we don't like it when the federal government's three letter Alphabet agencies target U.S. civilians. Again, the word citizens often left out at particular times that are perhaps more apt. Now we have Mayor Brandon Johnson of Chicago amid again, arson attacks, the mobbing and beating of pregnant moms with sickle cell anemia and her children, a lot of violence that is native to Chiraq. He appeared on Jennifer Welch. Again, the era of the botoxed, angry, bitter old ladies liberals is in full swing. He goes on to say that really what Republicans want is a civil war because they're like the south who doesn't know that they lost or something. Here's Brandon Johnson.

[Mayor Brandon Johnson]

So we know that the intentional attacks that are coming from the Trump administration and the extreme right in this country has very much been what I call it's an attempt to relitigate the civil war.

[Tony Kennett]

Notice he says nothing about the attacks that are happening in his own city against people living in Chicago by those in Chicago that he can directly affect. By the way, he has control of the Chicago Police Department. He can order investigations, he can order detectives. He can order precincts to focus on specific things, but he's not doing that. He's got his little, little beta hands in front of him and he's complaining about Trump arresting those who should not be here in the country in the first place.

[Producer Nick]

Place.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Right.

[Mayor Brandon Johnson]

They have not accepted the results that the north actually won.

[Rob Bluey]

Right.

[Tony Kennett]

As a reminder, the first Republican president, that would be Abraham Lincoln. That would in fact be the Republican core of the country winning in the Civil War. I cry about it. I guess I'm loser because if you.

[Mayor Brandon Johnson]

Look at all of the attacks, it's not just black cities. He's going after education, housing, transportation, good paying jobs and healthcare. Those are literally the five demands of descendants of slaves post Civil War.

[Tony Kennett]

Hold on a second here. Is he out here suggesting that like oh well, you know, white people or Hispanic people or Asian people, they don't need anything but boy, what the. Not even just black people in general. What the descendants of slaves need. Which also quite, quite a way to frame black people in the country. Not by the data, but anywho, suggesting that, well, what black people really need are education, health care, good paying jobs, transportation from the government.

[Producer Nick]

5. Five areas that Democrats have pushed legislation in for the past 80 years.

[Tony Kennett]

Also, just for kicks and giggles, you.

[Producer Nick]

Can only convince people for so long that you being in control will help them. The lack of results will prove themselves.

[Tony Kennett]

I do want to know just for the record, you know, just out here for the boys, girls and squirrels, did he really just admit that he thinks that black people cannot get access to these goods unless the government hands it to them in a handout? Because. Yikes, yikes. And then some.

[Mayor Brandon Johnson]

So it's evident that they are not, you know, committed to actually realizing the full dream of what this country can offer.

[Tony Kennett]

Yeah. Brandon Johnson, ladies and gentlemen. Nothing for those being slaughtered in Chicago. But of course, God forbid federal law enforcement upholds federal law. In good news, on the good state government side of things, Governor Greg Abbott of Texas today designated the Muslim Brotherhood and the Council on American Islamic Relations, you know, the pact that funded Mandani questionably legally as foreign terrorist and transnational criminal organizations. This bans them from buying or acquiring land in Texas and authorizes the attorney general to sue to shut them down. Excellent. Absolutely excellent. This is a good thing. Those who import and make excuses for Islamic jihadist terrorism in the United States don't need to be here. Don't care. I don't care. I. Those who are openly making excuses for terrorism that happens inside this country right here. No, I don't care. Ron DeSantis, governor of Florida, is also preparing. This was on October 27th, not today. He said the Muslim Brotherhood should be designated a foreign terrorist organization. It's not clear yet whether or not he can direct the secretary of state in Florida or the Florida attorney general or whether this is a piece of legislation that needs to come through the Florida state legislature, but that is the direction the Republican Party is moving in. Wonderful. Excellent stuff. Just another quick thing here before we get over to the conversation with Tim Burchett, which is an excellent one. James Carville, the Democrat strategist, has come out now and just admit the only hope the Democrats have is just packing the courts as hard as they can to fight Trump or in the future, no matter who has power. Carville?

James, President Biden didn't do that. He said, look, I'm not going to.

Pack the Supreme Court.

But you're saying a future Democratic president will.

[James Carville]

Well, they should, because the public has lost faith in an entire branch of government. I mean, this is the lowest the Supreme Court has been rated. And if you believe, as I do, that we need faith and not just the executive of the congressional branch of government, the Supreme Court, and it is not written anywhere in the Constitution. You have to have nine. That's, that, that's just a number that came up with. I think it went from, from 7 to 9, but I'm not sure. And I think the way to cure that very quickly is expand it to 13 and get some balance on the court. You know, the Republicans won the popular vote, I think, two out of last eight elections, and they have two thirds of the Supreme Court justices. They have six out of nine. And that's, that's absurd. It's a distortion. The Supreme Court does not serve the law. It serves the interests of the Republican Party.

[Tony Kennett]

And now hang on a second here. So his argument that he is making is that, well, the current Supreme Court doesn't vote the way that I want them to. And the country has popularly elected Republicans only twice in the last several presidential elections out of the last eight. So the argument that he is making is that the Supreme Court needs to answer more in how the people vote. That's not ruling on the law. He's simply saying, man, these Supreme Court justices are ruling, too, originally in the Constitution. We need to get as many Supreme Court justices as we can. So they start ruling with how the baristas who put Mamdani in power in New York City want him to vote. That's what we need.

[Producer Nick]

Producer NICK the people that believe like Me believe that SCOTUS has a lack of trust. So let's completely restructure how that that branch of government works.

[Tony Kennett]

This is exactly why we ended up bringing on Representative Tim Burchett today. Everyone has been beating down his door, asking about the Epstein stuff. Everyone has been beating down his door, asking about some of the government shutdown stuff. And in reality, the fight on the ground right now is the crap that James Carville is proposing. What we really need are all of these external groups that harry Congress and keep them from passing laws. We need all of these bureaucratic lobbying groups and these NGOs like CARE. We need all of these different organizations to come in and say, hang on, you can't just pass a law. Even though, again, as we saw earlier this evening, boy, when they want to pass a law, you just slap a little resolution through there, and then, presto, hesto, it's off to the desk of Donald Trump. I mean, it's kind of swampy. It really is. It's particularly gross. So Representative Tim Burchett, we're going to bring him on, and then we've got a little bit of bonus tonus, because we're. We're. We're really just bringing you all the good stuff this evening. Now, when they were choosing the guy to pick Tennessee's second, they accidentally got a guy who has a decent sense of humor and doesn't take himself too seriously. And it may have resulted in being exactly what the House of Representative needs. Of course, I'm talking about Tim Burchett, the man who once said that AOC might steal your soul if you look too closely.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

New dress, y' all, don't look at her too close. She'll steal your soul. All right, have a good weekend, Cortez.

[Tony Kennett]

Representative Burchett, how's it going?

[Representative Tim Burchett]

It's going all right. I also said she's our. She's just your friendly neighborhood Marxist. I mean, you know, she's my friendly neighborhood Marxist. I realize she's. She's just about as far left as I am. Right. But, you know, she actually believes that garbage, and that's why I can. I can. Actually, she and I are friends. I don't agree with her on anything. You know, when she has death threats, I pray for her safety. And I've defended her against a physical altercation once before. And so, you know, look, I'm from Tennessee. We respect and we're crazy about ladies, and I love them in leadership. I just don't agree with her politically.

[Tony Kennett]

And well put at that. So you were Obviously, in the news over the last week because you were hammering the Democrats on the shutdown stuff. Immediately after the Clinton foundation files dropped, we started pivoting over to the Epstein documents. You made a motion to just release everything after three leaked emails. Now, of course, we have Representative Stacey Plaskett discovered to have been texting with Epstein during the Donald Trump Oversight Committee situation. How are you keeping your sanity over there with all of this chaos in the House?

[Representative Tim Burchett]

I would say crack cocaine, but I don't need drugs. But, no, I. You know, when I go home, I don't sleep much. Not. It's just insomnia, really. I worry about the future of our country and future of my daughter and my wife and our little farm we got. I make skateboards at night. I go out in the barn and, you know, from about 10 to 2 or 3 in the morning, I'll make a few. I work on skateboards and new inventions I've got. I always tell people it's cheaper than a psychiatrist. And the funny thing about it, I gave one of those to Tulsi Gabbard, And it made national news, and she put a nice tweet out about it. We've been buddies forever. And a really nice thing she said about me was just unbelievable. I was overwhelmed. But the. So I go to Ethics because I'm a capitalist. I love business. I go to Ethics. I say, hey, dude, I would like to sell some of these dadgum skateboards. People are calling me all over the country wanting these things, and they said basically that I have to hire a lawyer and I've got a business plan and all this crap, you know? So I said to him, I said, so if I want to do insider stock trading, I can just. I just become a member of Congress, but if I want to sell a few skateboards, I got to hire an attorney. You know, it's just ridiculous, brother.

[Tony Kennett]

I mean, I think back to. I think back to Parks and Recreation, more of an Indiana Ron Swanson approach, where he once pointed out, I have some apples, I'd like to sell them. That should be it. That should be all there is to open a business in this country. Whatever happened to, hey, I have some apples. Would you like to buy them? Yes, thank you. That's as complicated as it should be.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

To open a business in this country. I know that. I remember that. That line very well. I've seen that rewatch that many. That one Little blurb on YouTube many times. But, yeah, it's just the ridiculous nature of this thing and a bunch of unethical people are going to stand over. You know, it's like I used to say, military intelligence is a whole lot like congressional ethics.

[Tony Kennett]

It really just doesn' like jumbo shrimp. It's quite the oxymoron.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Yeah, exactly. And that's why I went to Roger Williams, a buddy of mine from Texas. I said, Roger, William, he's a businessman, very respected and clean cut guy. I said, Roger, I said, man, we need to work on this. He said, you know, I told him my big thing is just disclosure, just disclose it. Because when they put these arbitrary rules on them, all they do is get an attorney. Oh, that's not me, that's my daughter's llc. You know, she's the, the welder or something. You know, I mean it's just, it's just bogus and America knows it. We need to throw all those rules out and just start over and make something, some sense. I think America just wants to know what we're doing on the side. And I think that if that, there's nothing wrong with that. I think there's nothing wrong with building a business while you're in Congress. You're just not selling your soul. You think I'm going to trade my vote for a dadgum skateboard? I mean, you know, I mean that's how unethical this thing is. You got, you got stat and its staff is really the sewer. Well, I don't call it a swamp. I always say a swamp. Something pretty cool God created, you know, it filters water, it's an ecosystem. This is a sewer, it's man made. So you get these chairmen of these committees, I'm going to change everything. And what do they do? They hire the same dad gum staff. And so the lobbyists have the same contacts, they have the same control. You know, they're going on a little trips, they're going out for a little steak dinner, buying them drinks. And case in point, last night, once again, you got staff members. I mean you have a bill that's a study bill. You know, it's, it starts out as maybe something strong, some anti terrorist thing or whatever. Anti, whatever group.

[Tony Kennett]

Something that's going to do some good maybe.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Yeah. And it, it has the same title. But what happens is you go, you know, I have a bill to stop the, the Chinese from getting our genetic information. I've been working on thing for a year to get it. And here's what happens. The lobbyist has got some staff members here and they say, hey, come to the member and say, hey, I don't Think we can pass this bill right now? Oh, no, really? You know, and you're thinking, and I'm thinking, why is this unelected bureaucrat tell an elected congressman that I can't pass the bill? And I say, well, I tell you what, why don't we do a study on it and just keep the same name and then next year when we get the results. Now, I've been in Congress eight years, brother. I have never seen one of these studies. I think there's a lot. I think there's a warehouse like that final scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark, where all these studies go. And so I.

[Tony Kennett]

You know that basement in it, was it West Virginia or Pennsylvania where they were keeping all the retirement applications that mine, that the Doge found at Sal.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Yeah, it's all mine. Yeah, it's dry or whatever. But I just think it's. America is ready for us to start doing something and quit with all the nonsense. And I'm going to expose it. I've been exposing it. But, and I always say this, I'm not suicidal. I don't, I don't walk near the edges of steep cliffs and I do ride a motorcycle, but I do practice gun safety. So if you find me with 12 bullet holes in the back of my head, I did not commit suicide.

[Tony Kennett]

That's good to know. It's really interesting to hear someone from the inside of Congress talk about the unelected bureaucrats were trying to neuter every bill, water it down, reframe things, throw it into a study again, the study that always seems to be connected to the lobbying firm that had the issues. And then once you get the actual bill through, it doesn't change anything that particularly. We used to actually pass legislation decades and centuries ago that the law would be passed and then there would actually be a definitive change in the law. Now there are so many exceptions. And I before e rules inside a bill. I mean, I've even been looking at some of the ways that the Oversight Committee operates. In general, the Judiciary Committee operates. They have so many sub rules by, like, the recommendations that they make, they're really not useful at all. I mean, again, it really does seem like the only thing Congress is actually doing usefully is providing a platform for insider trading. As you, as you said a minute.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Or two ago, yep, 100%. But I get, I get very frustrated with it. I called my wife last night and I was, I was just, I told her, I said, honey, I just, you know, I've kind of feel down about things and I, I Get. I'm energized back today. But I, I just worry about our country and people say, well, if you don't like it, get out. Well, let me tell you something, brother. If you got a congressman that likes Washington D.C. you better get you another dad gum Congressman. Because they're not coming home. They're on the cocktail circuit or whatever circuit they're on. You know, at night I don't go anywhere and people ask me, where do you run? Where do you hang out? I hang out right here. I sleep in my office right there on that couch. My buddy gave me a cushion from Washington D from Knoxville, my best friend for Christmas one year. This two ply thing, the glue didn't hold its two parts. It kind of comes apart. But I sleep with that and, and I sleep in here and I don't, I don't run around on my wife. I don't, I don't drink. And I generally don't get in bar fights unless I'm at a restaurant and walk by the bar and go into the bathroom and. But, but it's very frustrating. But you know, I have to energize. I got to realize why I'm here and I don't quit, but I used to.

[Tony Kennett]

I get a little bit of ribbing teasing from some of my colleagues because they're all in D.C. and I'm here in Greenfield, Indiana on the I70 corridor.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Good for you, dude. I break out a cold sweat every time that's. I say, honey, it's time to go to the airport.

[Tony Kennett]

Oh, and I have to leave my, my, my firearms behind and I can't stand it. I. So no, I feel the same way. I'm in the hotel or the, whatever room I'm staying at when I go to DC like later this week, unfortunately. And I'll sit there and I don't. There's nothing to do. I'm glad that DC safe again. I'm thrilled, but there's just not. I don't understand what everyone sees in it. And I'm not trying to be sanctimonious. I'm just, I don't know. I grew up in the Midwest. I don't really see wow. I. Walking down the city streets at night, woohoo. You've done it once, you've done it a million times.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

When I hit that, when I hit my farm gate when I come home, I just feel like I'm the luckiest human on the face of the earth at that point.

[Tony Kennett]

Well, I hear the alarm that sounds like that's Nothing.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

We're not. That's nothing. Right. We're good. That's okay. Another one of those bureaucratic things that just says that they've concluded their morning business or some nonsense like oh, how exciting.

[Tony Kennett]

So I'd be remiss if I didn't ask you. So do you actually believe there's going to be any kind of an ethics commission study supreme over Representative Plasket communicating with Epstein over the last couple of years, or do you think that's just going to fade into a erased headline a couple of days from now?

[Representative Tim Burchett]

They'll do something with it. There's too much talk about it, but it'll take forever. It'll be a six month 2033. Yeah, yeah. And it's just. We need. We were talking about something today about how that we ought to be. We ought to be filing the paperwork today on representing Plaskett and everybody agreed with me. But it won't be today because you got too many butts. You got a kiss, too many staff.

[Tony Kennett]

Couldn'T even get enough votes together to censure Ilhan Omar or Rashida Tlaib. Goodness gracious, what a mess.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Yeah, well, that's the frustration I have with a lot of it I have. Leadership is about staying in power, brother. It doesn't matter who's. Who's in charge. It can be your best friend, could be your mother, but once they get a taste of that, it's about the entourage, it's about the suburban, it's about not standing in line at a. At a ball game. It's about somebody waiting on you. It just, you just come sucked up into it. And I've never. I think people ought to do a study of. Ask them 10 questions, psychological questions before they get in leadership and then 10 questions after they've been there six months and I suspect I just came up with that.

[Tony Kennett]

I like that. I don't know if you've ever. Because I know. I see again you post a lot of little reels, videos and things on social media. There's a new trend of people in kind of like fancy clothing or walking out of somewhere fancy. And it says the caption is always when you get that first little taste of luxury and all of a sudden you understand corruption and you know, it's them kind of realizing, oh yeah, yeah, might not actually be so bad. I'm amazed at how honest people are starting to be on a lot of social media about the vices that they're willing to tolerate as long as they're the ones that are benefiting from it.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

Yeah, well, it's like, oh, I've sort of studied mobsters and leadership and, you know, union leaders and, and these big operators and they all end up in jail or dead. Very few, but they all think that they're going to be the one that survives it, the corruption and all that. And, you know, everybody thinks I'm, I'm smarter, you know, this, I'm that. But they all end up getting caught or getting shot or going broke or being humiliated.

[Tony Kennett]

I mean, it's that. It's that. Be sure your sin will, will find you out from numbers 32. You know what? I'm 100%. Well, Representative Tim Burchett, I can't thank you for how much you're doing. I appreciate you again, having a sense of humor, but also having a real belief in what the work you're doing is important for the American people, despite how much you hate it is a rare thing these days. And we really appreciate you. All right, so back onto the bonus tonus side of things because there are a few updates to hit you with before we close out for the evening. Number one, the reports currently that as far as the signing this evening, White House staff have not yet intimated whether or not the president is going to be signing the legislation into law into the release this evening. He is at an event, I believe, with Ronaldo. So a little, little good fun times over there. I mean, I'm more of a Lionel Messi guy, but what are you gonna do? That said, he is also kind of announcing some increased US Military partnerships. And this brings us over to a little bit of Trump controversial stuff. Producer Nick, do you have a little, was that a wave or. Excellent. So that brings us to a little bit of good old fashioned Trump news after one more Epstein bit here. According to Representative Luna, Bill and Hillary Clinton have refused to appear for their depositions regarding Jeffrey Epstein. Now, I also happen to remember there was a time when that would get you sent to jail for a couple of years. So, oh, how the rules do in fact change. Or as Michael Scott would put it, well, well, well, how the turntables. So that brings us to some of the Trump controversy today. So first and foremost, the media and the journalist crew went wild with anger, with rage because Trump, when a reporter wouldn't stop asking about Epstein stuff after being pestered for, I kid you not, I've watched like the full stream of questions. She went on for like 45 seconds. That's a long time when you're trying to talk at someone who's not talking back to you. And finally he looked at her and was, and said, quiet, quiet, piggy here was that.

[Donald Trump]

You're going to find out what did he know.

[Tony Kennett]

By the way, I'm sorry about the audio quality, but we have yet to figure out how to invent a microphone that doesn't suck on Air Force One. With respect to Bill Clinton, with respect.

[Donald Trump]

To the head of Harvard, with respect to all of those people that are now including J.P. morgan ships. Yeah, Jennifer, go ahead.

[Tony Kennett]

So that's like our third, fourth time now. Total 45 seconds. Jumping in, asking about Epstein and he's like, quiet, quiet, piggy. And everyone says, oh, this is horrible. How dare, how could Trump say such a terrible, horrible thing?

[Producer Nick]

Oh, it's awful because it's funny.

[Tony Kennett]

Yeah, I, I'm, I'm not as bothered. So a couple of things can be true at once here. Number one, I'm not going to play the 4D chess. What he actually meant. However, if we play the left's game here, then you can say, well, actually what Trump is referring to is like calling someone a greedy little piggy. Like she's being greedy. Huh? That's how the left normally covers that. I'm not gonna play 40 chess with that one. Instead I'll just say this. The last week has been spent calling him bisexual, Hitler, Satan. I, I'm sorry, I just. You know, when you spend the entire.

[Producer Nick]

Week with Biden, we had physical threats of violence against some reporters when they.

[Tony Kennett]

Asked questions, throw you across the room here.

[Producer Nick]

Calling somebody a picky is not that bad.

[Tony Kennett]

Did he not say, and I quote, shut the hell up, end quote to Peter Doocy like once a week. I mean, I'm again, spare, spare me. I know, we'll, we'll, we'll break out, we'll break out the pearls here.

[Producer Nick]

I remember him telling somebody they were going to wrap a chain around their head.

[Tony Kennett]

Well, you know, good times, great oldies. We'll get to that in a little bit. Trump also spoke at the McDonald's conference, which, first of all, I didn't know there were like big McDonald's investor conferences. I wonder if they serve at the conference, like spruced up McDonald's dishes. It would be better than most conference catered food. By the way, all those fancy dinners that politicians like pay to be at and things. I want you guys to know that the food at those particular events is just as bad as like at your local county shindig where it's like canned green beans. It's awful, terrible. I don't care what hotel? It is horrible. Anyway, here was Trump addressing the Mickey D's conference and saying to the McDonald's crew, First fry cook ever to become President of the United States. Pretty good funny Trump here.

[Donald Trump]

I'm thrilled to be here with the men and the women who are really the heart and soul of one of the greatest, most admired and most successful companies in the history of the world. Frankly, the one and only McDonald's. I've gone there a couple of times, and I'm honored to stand before you as the very first former McDonald's fry cook ever to become President of the United States.

[Tony Kennett]

Funny. Good stuff. Good times. So that said, there was one moment that no one really talked about that was particularly hilarious, and I do mean really, really funny. He starts talking about being a big McDonald's customer, which is true, and then he brings up RFK Jr. Which is peak comedy. Here you go.

[Donald Trump]

I'm also one of your all time most loyal customers. I really am. Well, while others. I think that's good. I'm pretty sure that's good. While other politicians fly around on campaign planes stocked with expensive catering on Trump Force One, prior to ascending to Air Force One, which is quite a nice plane. Also, we served only McDonald's almost every time. On occasion, we couldn't find one. One, which is pretty hard to believe.

[Tony Kennett]

Our Elizabeth Mitchell, our White House correspondent, has in fact confirmed this. She says it's McDonald's served hot, which is impressive, by the way. It's impressive. They actually keep it that warm. I guess with air fryers now that's easier. But that used to be quite the feat.

[Donald Trump]

Go another route. But we really did. You fed us very well. And I even got Bobby Kennedy to eat a Big Mac, and he told me he loved it.

[Tony Kennett]

That's funny. Forcing RFK Jr to eat a Big Mac is really freaking funny. Uh, so that, that aside, the President also said something rather politically incorrect to the Saudi prince or whatever, the leader of the. The Saudi Arabian dictatorial kingship monarchy today. Whatever. Uh, he came over to the White house and announced $600 billion of investment into the United States and then said it will be over a billion. And that really impressed the President. But nothing impresses the President more than fluffing the man's ego because, come on, it's Trump. He loves it. Here you go. And the comment afterward is just, well, it's classic Trump.

[Donald Trump]

And we're walking and I asked the crown prince. So outside of Trump. Outside of Trump, because I blow everyone away, who was the best president for Saudi Arabia? And you could maybe it's, it's an interesting answer.

[Tony Kennett]

Rosal, who started it, was a Democrat. Democrat. And Reagan, he's one of the historical.

[Rob Bluey]

President that have close ties with Saudi Arabia.

[Tony Kennett]

We've worked with all presidents.

[Donald Trump]

Trump, blow them all away.

[Tony Kennett]

Son of the league, Mr. President.

[Donald Trump]

And Trump doesn't give a fist pump. I grabbed that hand. I don't give a hell where that hand's been. I grabbed that.

[Tony Kennett]

So this was really funny for a couple of reasons. So obviously the throwing a punch at Biden is great. He and the prince did spend a considerable amount of time walking down President Trump's little hall of presidents that he, you know, the framed photos of presidents. And they did stand there laughing for like 20 or 30 seconds at the Biden auto pen photo, which is really good. But the reason that the left hand, I don't care where that hair, that hand has been joke is funny is that there has been a long kind of stereotype with Middle Eastern nations, especially with some of the more tribal communities that they wipe their butt with their left hand instead of using toilet paper. And there's a question. It's like, was Trump making that joke here? He's made jokes like that in the past. Meaning that, like, Trump would likely know the joke with the Saudi crown prince right there. That's really freaking funny. If that's what he meant by that's really freaking funny. It could be just, you know, I'll shake his hand. I don't care whose hand it is, whatever.

[Producer Nick]

I think it's in reference to the tradition of bumping fists due to Covid that was really prevalent under Biden.

[Tony Kennett]

Good point as well. Could be either one. Either way, really, really funny stuff. Last but not least, just, you know, because I, since we're talking about, you know, the Miss Piggy in the comments and whatever and all that, that this was sent over to us. I don't know who Leslie Jones is. I have no, I have no idea who Leslie Jones is on the Kelly Clarkson show. I didn't know Kelly Clarkson had a show. But a lot of outrage. And it's this, this entitled attitude that is rather prevalent in that whole Jennifer Welch Botox crew of I'm so wonderful. Men should want to love me and date me. I don't need to change anything about me. You all should have to change because I'm so wonderful and precious and amazing. And it got a little heated today. Here you go.

[Rob Bluey]

I'm sick of men telling me, oh, wait, you know, you hardcore.

[Tony Kennett]

Yes, I am.

[Producer Nick]

I am.

[Tony Kennett]

Can you Handle it.

[Rob Bluey]

Oh, well. What you bringing to the table? I am the table.

[Tony Kennett]

Here are all the women of the crowd.

[James Carville]

Yes.

[Tony Kennett]

Yay. You are so brave. And she looks aggressive. That's some nostril flaring world record stuff right there. You could drive a truck through one of those nostrils. I don't understand why you wouldn't want.

[Rob Bluey]

A woman like me.

[Tony Kennett]

I am successful. I am rich. I can fight. I know the answer. I know the answer. The answer is that having someone who seems pleasant to be around is worth a lot more than being successful. Super money person who knows how to fight. Just, you know, throw. Throwing it out there. There have been some political scandals this week involving relations with various individuals. And I'd like to throw out there that, you know, choosing a partner, maybe going after the person with the success and the title and the money and the whatever. If you get home in the evening and they yell at you because you didn't call her her royal table ness. I'm just saying, I personally, you know, I'm just out here saying maybe acting lovely. Catch a little more flies with honey than you might with vinegar in this case, you know. Producer Nick, did you notice that she.

[Producer Nick]

Tried to snap her fingers but couldn't because of her large acrylic nails?

[Tony Kennett]

No, I didn't, but I don't really have a joke for that. I didn't notice that. Don't try to snap if you've got large acrylic. Sounds like a great whale for a great way for a puncture wound. I don't know. I'm not going to get into that. I know that large long nails are quite exciting fashion. It's not for me. I know that shocks you folks. It's been real, it's been fun. I'll answer just a couple of mail time questions because I promised before we close out this evening. So one question that I got in the comments that I think is good, it's from a guy named Regular Jeff regarding the Democrat sedition encouragement video earlier and said, when did we lose? Treason is treason then. Does everyone on the chat know the treason law was the follow up. I'm here to answer that question. The reason I did not bring up the charge of treason when talking about the Democrat congressional video of calling, you know, troops to be insubordinate. That's not technically the definition of treason. There's a colloquial definition of treason in which we say it's betraying your country. Anytime you betray the country itself, that's treason. The legal definition of treason is you are Betraying the country with the direct interest of another country at heart, as in you are sabotaging the United States, you are doing something that is loyal directly to Beijing, to Moscow, to London, et cetera. That would be treason. Sedition is when you encourage or facilitate rebellion against your own government. You say, does it matter? Well, it kind of depends. Certain colloquial phrases, you know, we suggest that a person maybe who is guilty of manslaughter, that it's murder, even though the legal definition of murder is broken down into degrees and then manslaughter and various kinds of stuff. That's kind of the reason. Even though, you know, another colloquial would be defamation, even though sometimes it's libel or slander and not the legal definition for defamation. There's your answer to that one next from Dell. What do you think about a socialist primarying speaker? Jeffries? Yes, this is Ose Che Ose. I think I made a pun out of his name this morning. I know you're not surprised about this. The Democrats have decided that because Mamdani won that now is the time to run. All of the young multi ethnic immigrant socialists like to go out there and run with this. I will remind you that the guy from the Captain Phillips movie, the Somalian that ran for mayor in Minnesota, whatever his name was, Omar Fattah. Omar Fattah, yeah, sure.

[Producer Nick]

He is not the mayor now.

[Tony Kennett]

Whatever. Yeah, he's. Look at me. I'm the loser of that race now. So this particular aspiring young lad, he didn't win. In fact, Jacob, the beta male fry mayor of Minneapolis is retaining.

[Producer Nick]

Cries a lot.

[Tony Kennett]

Yeah, cries a lot. At awkward times. Probably an actor for Sarah McLaughlin commercial, you know, anyway, you know.

[Producer Nick]

Yeah, I just imagine him kneeling in front of George Floyd's like mural there.

[Tony Kennett]

Yeah, a lot of, a lot of foot kissers going on. Oh, Bruce Rice over on the chat sent 10 daily signal channel memberships to people. That was very, very kind of people. That was very, very kind of you. Thank you. So that question, I think they might try to primary him. Whether or not he wins in that primary is a good guess. Right now you have a lot of young women on the left who know nothing at all about politics. By the way, the answer to this, someone has recently turned me towards watching the whatever podcast which has been very painful. I'm going to let you on a little secret. I really don't like podcasts. I don't like them. I've now had two, three podcasts. I don't, I don't care for them. I listen to a couple here and there when I have to. Most of the things I watch, I'm a show watching kind of guy. Producer Nick, he absorbs podcasts like through osmosis.

[Producer Nick]

Over 80,000 hours viewed.

[Tony Kennett]

You poor man. For me personally, I'm of the opinion that, I don't know, I just don't really care as much for podcasting. But on the whatever podcast they often have a lot of young ladies who are kind of the representative, the representing influencer group of the, the young generation Z, female left and not even being able to name what continent you are on or what the two American continent names are. That's a struggle and a half. So will that crew maybe push through and elect whoever runs up against this, this OSEI guy, against Akeem? Maybe. I don't know. All I can tell you right now is that Akeem is about as inspiring as Tofungus. And the man speaks like William Shatner made out with Barack Obama. So I mean, yippee. Maybe that was good enough seven, eight years ago. It isn't good enough now. Nextly. Nextly. Yeah, I'm going to use that word from Ebola. He says, Tony, what is going on in Indiana with the failure to redistrict? Ah, that's a great question and I'll answer it very briefly. There are Republicans that are in power in Republican majority states who don't do anything. They don't do anything useful. They have power. And I don't think that, you know, I don't think it's as maybe just as much the corruption is, it's laziness. They don't have to do anything. They don't care. And right now, on all sides of the aisle in Indiana, even though I broadcast out of Indiana, even though the first station I'm on is WIBC in Indianapolis before the other stations get a hold of it.

[Representative Tim Burchett]

But.

[Tony Kennett]

I don't usually talk a lot about Indiana politics on the show. Reason number one is because the other show hosts on the station do cover Indiana politics a lot. I think that Hoosiers along with a lot of other people might like a Hoosiers common sense take on national junk. Number two, I think that state and local politics, everyone in my state is kind of ridiculous. And I say that because on the populist side of the aisle, on the establishment side of the aisle, the libertarian Republicans, even a lot of the traditional conservatives, no one really knows what they're doing. We had an establishment control of the party about a decade ago and then the populace started to Take over. And I issued a warning. I said, if populists are going to run to take over the state government, they better know what they're doing to run the position. Now we have a lot of populists in power who don't know what the positions are to do. Our Secretary of State is a great example of that. Diego Morales has no idea how to run the job. He has no idea what he's doing. It's just the truth. We have just a lot of useless shenanigans. So in the Senate, they have to approve the redistricting effort, but our state senators, as I back when I was an education policy advisor found out, they do this nonpartisan crap where they like to pretend they're like, I'm a man of the people. And so they'll have like a teachers union group call in and they will take that just as seriously, that kind of lobbying just as seriously as if you, me or Dupree were to call in and say, hey, I want you to redistrict the state. Because right now it's currently districted along what some would consider some racial lines. And the district that I'm in is gerrymandered, like an awkward C backwards, in order for Indianapolis to have its own little special segregated district so that Representative Andre Carson gets to retain power. So the short answer for the reason that Republicans in Indiana are not redistricting is because they don't have cojones. They don't. They don't have the will to do it. And you have a bunch of people who are more than happy to let the left get out there and play any game they want and ram power down whoever's throat they want. And then when it's Republicans turn to wield the bat, all of a sudden they're saying, oh, no, don't. Don't play by the rules of the game. You have to be really nice and get stepped on. So there's your short answer. Laziness and a weird desire to be stepped on. That's the problem with the Republican Party here in my home state. That's also that little lecture is why I don't usually get invited to the fancy Republican balls and dinners and soirees in the state. On the national level, yeah. But that's also because at the national level, often we make fun of individuals in the Indiana Republican Party leadership who took time to have a diversity committee, as though being a black Republican somehow made you more special than any other color of Republican, which is the same kind of really stupid Hathaway strategy, Chicago style politics that loses election. So hopefully that's a good answer to your question. It's been a fun time. It's been a good hoot. We've had some laughs, we've had some news. So hope you have an excellent evening. Tomorrow evening, I'll be coming to you from our nation's Sewer Capital, Washington, D.C. this is the Tony Kennedcast here on the Daily Signal, nationally syndicated and first on 93 WIBC. Y' all take care.