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Ep. 460 - BOMBSHELL: Minnesota Somali Fraud Scandal Gets WORSE, Ilhan Omar's Staffer Caught, $8 Billion Lost
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The fraud scandal in Minnesota may be much worse than originally estimated, with over eight billion dollars in fraud now in scope of the investigation, with over 70 arrests. Rep. Ilhan Omar may have been directly connected with the fraud as possible probes & investigations are floated at the Department of Justice.
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You're listening to the Tony Kennett cast on 93WYPCYTV here on the Daily Signal. How many times on a Friday evening can you say things are getting worse by the second? Usually you have to wait until you're at a party with your colleagues or family to get to that kind of a point. Now, welcome to the Tony Kennett cast, where there is in fact, news that breaks after 4pm and unlike a lot of our friendly network shows and competitors, a lot of other evening podcasts and things, we don't record hours at 11:30 the day before. We actually continually update and write the show to the last minute. And it's a good thing too, because the situation in Somalia is getting even worse than it was earlier today, which is far wor than it was days before. As a reminder, there was a group of Minnesota State employees who created a social media account and all the way back into early 2024 had been trying to tell anyone who would listen on social media, hey, we're a collection. They updated their numbers that grew consistently there from at least my research has not been any misrepresentation of the number of like for example, they didn't say, hey, we're a collection of 20 employees today. The next day they said seven. The next day they said 500. They've been consistent in their how many employees they suggested they're representing. They produced Excel spreadsheets, documents. They acted as whistleblowers trying to say there is serious fraud going on here in Minnesota. And it was ignored. It was ignored by the Tim Walls gubernatorial administration in Minnesota. It was ignored by the Biden administration and his doj, the assistant attorney general on civil rights was too busy covering up her own domestic abuse scandals to look into any of the fraud. Immigration Customs Enforcement under the Biden administration was busy getting into fights with the Texas National Guard and Greg Abbott's administration in Texas rather than doing anything what the kids would call useful. And now we have not just what looks to be a sum of a billion dollars of fraud, which is what everyone believed up through yesterday, it could be now between 8 to 10 billion dollars of fraud against those here in the United States. Check it out. Fraud investigators are finding in Minnesota is growing by the day. Kelly Lefler, who leads the Small Business Administration, says in the two days her agency has been investigating the state, they've uncovered at least a million dollars in PPP fraud. Just two days in. Several of the whistleblowers in Minnesota have also told lawmakers they believe the total amount of fraud could total up to more than $8 billion. Governor Tim Walz, who is up for reelection is. Hang on, we'll get to Tim Walz here in just a second. $8 billion, you say? Why does it matter what the state legislators are saying? As you may recall, it is Tim Walls administration who targeted these very state employees from Minnesota and Minnesota state legislators because there is a position in the Minnesota state constitution that is ordained to be a part of the Minnesota state legislature. They are the auditor. They are in charge of looking where the dollars go in the budget. Now here in the state of Indiana, where we're broadcasting from and to our syndicated partner stations right now live, at least that would be in Arkansas, in Colorado, in Pennsylvania, your states and commonwealths, if you're listening from there, do not have legislative auditors. You have state level auditors only or county level auditors. In Minnesota, there are legislative auditors whose job is to call the crap when there are grants given. Yeah, Minnesota used to be like an okay state, believe it or not. And the role of the legislative auditor was to go after grant money or state spending or essentially rumors of using state funds and grants incorrectly. So they didn't have to wait until the state auditor, the county auditor, got involved. They were the sifting mechanism for the direct power of the purse from the people of Minnesota and federal dollars coming into Minnesota and Tim Walls completely ignored and cut out, some would argue illegally. It's one of the things he's being investigated for right now by the U.S. treasury Department. You are not allowed to screw with auditors. You are not allowed from the federal government. If you as a state officer mess around with a county auditor or a county assessor, you are looking at deep, deep, deep trouble from any federal agency, from the Department of Commerce over to the Treasury Department. Now there are more U.S. departments and governmental agencies that are investigating the state of Minnesota and state and federal employees. If you count Ilhan Omar as a congresswoman.
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Then I, I don't think I've ever seen this many state employees and agencies. Excuse me, this many state agencies investigating. Pardon me, this many federal agencies investigating in one state since the 1920s in Indiana and Illinois, Chicago primarily, back when Dillager and Capone were running around, There were like 12 different federal agencies that we're investigating at once. Right now there are anywhere between 13, maybe 14 depending on how Brooke Rollins gets the USDA involved in SNAP investigation fraud in Minnesota. That's unheard of, but it's very, very well deserved. Now let's dig into why this is so particularly scandalous. Now this $8 billion noticed by again all of these gaps that the auditor from the legislative branch of the Minnesota government has now noticed is getting particularly ugly due to an incredible report from Chadwick Moore over at the New York Post. According to Chadwick, U.S. representative Ilhan Omar's close ties which reported on Yesterday to the $1 billion welfare scam in her Minnesota congressional district are being uncovered. Here's how. Now we showed the video clips of Ilhan talking about the Somali restaurant that was involved in $250 million of the 1 billion billion initial scandal where the 70 plus individuals were arrested, the vast super majority being Somali migrants to the United States. But it goes a little bit deeper. Quote, Omar held parties at one of the key restaurants named in the fraud, knew personally one of its now convicted owners and one of her own staffers has also been convicted. Both of these convictions, the guy who campaigned for her and one of her staffers for stealing millions, millions of dollars. Guys, that's insane. That's bonkers. Because staffers are often appointed into positions after essentially previous relationships and favors and local organizations and think tanks and NGO groups. We're going to talk about NGOs in a second. That's really bad, but I'll continue with the article. Omar even introduced the bill.
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When she was a state legislator in Minnesota that led to the $250 million in fraud in Congress. Omar has advocated for measures and bills that would make it easier for individuals, for example, through the Biden Covid era.
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To be a part of these fraudulent schemes. Quote, Representative Omar knew who these people were personally. She knew people that were making tens of millions of dollars in this program.
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Now a little bit of a side note info piece here on on producer Nick here, Vance Butler, the man accused of killing former Minnesota House Speaker Melissa Hortman and her HUSB husband Mark in June 2025 was an appointee to Governor Tim Walls workforce Development Board, A position, of course, he was appointed to by then Governor Mark Dayton and then reappointed to by Tim Walls in 2019. What does that have to do with any of this? There's a really weird pattern in Minnesota of people being appointed to important positions and being given lots of money and a lot of oversight over things and then being really, really horrible people that commit lots of different kinds of violent and economic crimes. Something is very, very rotten in the state of Minnesota. More so than usual. Now this is freaking out. Ilhan Omar. She's very, very upset about this. And when I say she's upset, she's doing what all people in the millennial lane age range do. She's taking to social media and like recording videos of herself. Very disheveled. Here you go.
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As much as Trump and his cronies want to act like we have no power to respond, the truth is we are more powerful than we think we are. And I want to underscore the importance of using every single leverage.
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Bad choice of words. Every single leverage. What about the illegal ones that we.
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Have at our, at our arsenal? Because we do have a lot of leverage. We need to make sure that those who are collaborating with the authoritarian regime pay a costly price.
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Oh, yeah, that'll make everything just go away. Make some, make some threats to the administration who. I guarantee you that by the end of next week there will be a, either a possible indictment or an announcement of an investigation by at least one federal agency into Ilhan Omar's office radio crew. We have to send you over to the commercial. We're going to get into more of this because the photos are even worse on the live stream. See you guys in a second. It's the Tony Kenned cast. Yeah, we don't have full commercial length commercials over on the live stream. We've got more show just for you. So let's dig into it. Ilhan Omar with the convicted. Here's a compilation of these photos that were procured first by Fox News. Again, credit to the reporting where credit is due.
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All right, this news just breaking. Moments ago, Fox News has obtained photos of one of the Somali illegal immigrants wrapped up in the Minnesota fraud scandal with several high profile Minnesota Democrats, including Congresswoman Ilhan Omar and Governor Tim Walz. The man pictured is Abdul Tahir Ibrahim. He entered the country in 2000 and has had an order for removal since 2004. He also has a prior conviction in Canada for asylum and welfare fraud. ICE tells Fox News Ibrahim was granted temporary protected status for 10 years, but should have never been eligible.
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Now we're going to talk about this temporary protected status. And again, I've gotten a lot of heat before for saying that one of the presidents that I like the least in the modern context of Presidents is George H.W. bush. And I get a lot of weird looks for that. This crap is why George H.W. bush is the author. He is the architect, the first Bush rafter Reagan, that is the man who insisted that what we really needed to do was import buckets of migrants from all of these troubled nations around the world. Because if not. Again, George H.W. bush is the architect of this compassionate conservatism where instead of recognizing that American citizens need to be taken care of first and then legal immigrants need to be encouraged to assimilate to become full American citizens, he encouraged this kind of weird community bubbling. And it is one of the reasons we are in a significant issue today. Again, George HLB Bush did a lot of really good things, but this is something he has earned to specific criticism. For now, we don't have a lot of time. I want to, I have to keep going here. The best thing that you can do when you're in a major political crisis is I guess go on a podcast with Joy Reid and wine and make it all about race. And I guess saying the only reason that anyone might be mad about this fraud or my staffers connections to it is because Trump's deranged or something.
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To me, I know that those of us who are Somali in this country see ourselves as Americans. That's what our passport says, that's what our nationality is.
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That's the first time she's ever done that, ever. She has never. The only time that Ilhan Omar claims to be an American is when someone suggests that she should go back to Somalia. The reason that people suggest that she should go back to Somalia and is because she spends every wake and second of every single day talking about how she has allegiance to Somalia. All of the laws and the policies should be in benefit of Somalia. Everything that we do should be to advance and rebuild Somalia. It's a common theme among Somali immigrants. We're going to get to that in a second. But whenever you suggest, well, if you love Somalia so much, we say this about those who are in the protests and the riots that are waving the Mexican flag. If you love Mexico so much, go there. If you love Somalia so much, go there. And there's like, oh well, I'm an American. Well, that's the first that I've ever heard of it. You know what? No immigrant to this country who spends their time saying, I love this country and I'm gonna make this clear. The largest American flag that I've ever seen on a residential property was with a Hispanic family who, who I lived with when I was in college and by the way, is one of the reasons why I can speak Spanish. They were the most patriotic family and that group of dudes working legal immigrants were the most patriotic dudes. They loved this country. They loved their parents and also some of them and their friend group who came to this country from war torn countries like Honduras and Nicaragua. They love this country and I never have ever heard of anyone telling them and I've reached out and vast. Has anyone ever told you guys to go back to where you came from and they say no because we're extremely pro America.
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Again, Vance, there was the meme about J.D. vance being criticized when he told, you know, Zelensky to just say, when have you said thank you? There used to be an attitude in this country that once you came here, you were grateful for it. You loved America and that passion for this place made you more American. If you come here to, you know, yell about Somalia, then you know, about how great that is and how the money needs to go there. Then I've got a, you know, great idea of a place that you can go. It's this place called Somalia. We got to bring the radio crew back and then we've got far more. Don't even get me started on NGOs. It's the Tony Kennett cast here on the Daily Signal.
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This is the Tony Kennett cast on 93 WIBC. Welcome back to the Tony Kenneth cast here on the Daily Signal. Nationally syndicated, first on 93 WIBC. There are a lot of really weird things about Ilhan Omar as well as a lot of other Minnesota officials being linked with this Ibrahim guy. This Ibrahim who is, what do you think, $250 million in fraud, a conviction on this one individual alone.
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Yeah.
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What's interesting here is the number of people, prominent people that he has been photographed with. We have seen in the Fox News report, Tim Walls. He's been seen with Ilhan Omar, Secretary of State Steve Simon, as well as Senator Tina Smith.
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Senator Tina Smith, the senior senator of Minnesota, the junior senator of Minnesota, Amy Klobuchar is very, very upset right now that people are criticizing Somali migrants. She's furious. How could you say such things about Somali migrant, By the way, very rich. Whenever it is Amy Klobuchar coming to the defense of the little people, given that Amy Klobuchar has more whistleblowings from her own staff in D.C. about physical, verbal and consistent abuse, chronic abuse to her staff than any other senator in Washington. So Amy Klobuchar, who, you know, spends her days throwing things at the people working for her, I mean, at least Ilhan Omar will hook you up with a nice little bit of fraud. You know, you work for her. But I mean, hey, but you know, with Klobuchar, so you have violent, abusive appointees of power. You have the massively corrupt. And a lot of Americans are saying, you know what, again, as we pointed out yesterday on the show, I'm not seeing any genuine contributions that Somali Americans have made to the United States. It really appears that the only things that they are here for is Somalia. And, and by the way, right now in Minnesota, about an hour and a half ago, footage from a rally in Minneapolis and St. Paul, or little Mogadishu as they call it, of them waving the American flag for Ilhan Omar. No, no, no, the Somali.
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Now I will give them a little credit. The poster that was rapidly printed for Ilhan Omar had a sort of faded, opaque American flag in the background of that poster. That's the only one there. Now we do unfortunately have to move a little bit forward. We'll get back to this general attitude from the media and some left wing and right wing ish pundits on immigration here in just a bit. I want to talk about some of the NGO fraud because it is truly, truly disturbing. So first and foremost right now, we have observed a kind of deep seated fraudulent behavior already regarding Catholic and Lutheran charities pulling people across the border as quickly as they can. And they are. There are charities that have and non government organizations that took all kinds of federal grants.
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That in the process of doing so not only likely violated the law, but would try to get people dumped off at San Diego transportation centers. Of course, Virginia Allen has talked about that. But before we get to some more of the Lutheran NGO fraud in Minnesota and before we get to the NGO fraud in Ukraine, I want to cut over to Virginia Allen, our senior producer, because there are yet more NGOs that are directly funding not just the Somalian terror organization Al Shabaab, but also charities that you may know and love or at least know the names of, are directly involved in funding Hamas in Gaza. Check it out. And to talk a little more about these NGOs and the big, extra, stinky, terrible, super duper, awful problem that they are, no bias Included, Virginia Allen, our senior news producer over at the Daily Signal. All right, I'm already depressed about the NGOs, so you might as well give me a few more to be depressed about.
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Well, there's a long list, Tony, and unfortunately, in this day and age, it seems to be a little bit never ending. But this is news out of the Middle East. So there is an organization because.
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Of course it is.
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Yeah, of course. So there's an NGO called NGO Monitor. And what they do, they're based in Israel, is they are oversight for nonprofit organizations all around the world. Of course, they focus a lot on various nonprofits operating in and around the Middle east. And specifically they have a brand new report out on Gaza and the relationship between nonprofit organizations, NGOs operating in Gaza in 2022 and what relationship they had with Hamas. So they.
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Because these NGOs are supposed to be passing out aid and food and water and medical supplies and just serving people.
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Obviously not influenced by any government body.
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Because it's a nonprofit, non government organization, right?
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Yeah, Yep. Well, unfortunately we have learned otherwise. And you know, I would like to say this is surprising, but Tony, honestly, it's not. And when you have a terrorist group operating a country, this is the kind of result you get. So what these documents show, these are documents that were actually found by the, the idf, by Israel's military, retrieved in Gaza, taken back to Israel and then given to NGO Monitor to analyze and report. So in this long report from NGO monitor, they have 35 pages of documents. That's from the Ministry of the Interior within, within Gaza, which was known. These documents are dated 2022. At that time, Hamas was known to be in control of the government within Gaza. And so the Ministry of the Interior fully under the control of Hamas, and it lists out various nonprofit organizations and it lists out something called a guarantor. And what NGO Monitor refers to is essentially that Hamas created a guarantor system, a link between an individual who worked for that NGO and was cooperating, willing to cooperate or coerced, pressured in their opinion to cooperate with Hamas to, to be an informant to maybe when Hamas said, hey, we want to know what your organization is up to, to be compelled to give that information. And we're talking about some pretty big groups like Doctors Without Borders or Save the Children or Catholic Relief Services. These are large nonprofits, some are small, but they were doing humanitari work in Gaza and that were known to have at least one individual who was employed working in Gaza who was essentially subject to comply with the demands that Hamas was making on them.
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So in the last couple of weeks, just to kind of summarize some of these reports, we have a series of non government organization nonprofits, Catholic Charities. I know that our colleague Tyler o' Neill is working on a report about Lutheran Charities that were engaging in illegal immigration fraud, that were engaging in ferrying people across the border, engaging in pro Hamas. At least one individual inside of some of these charities working with Hamas through their Ministry of the Interior. We of course have NGOs in Ukraine that worked with individuals in the Ukrainian government to steal aid from Ukrainian people through their NGOs. We have information about NGOs that were involved in major fraud in Minnesota and giving money back to Somalia. At this point, I just got to wonder, can we just put a stop to foreign NGOs until further notice? Because at some point you have to wonder how much good is being done for the amount of harm that is also being covered by all of these untaxable nonprofit, smiling advertisement individual groups. It's really quite insidious.
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Well, and it's unfortunate, Tony, because we know, especially as conservatives right there, there is an awesome place for nonprofit organizations. They play a critical role in society and caring for people. We want less government and we want more civil society function. And so it's really tragic when we see this level of corruption because it does undermine citizens trust of these groups. But I think it really, I would say the key message is make sure you're doing your research on the organizations that you are choosing to back and give money to. There are so many great nonprofits out there, but unfortunately many, while maybe they're doing some good work, there's also a lot of shady activity going on behind the scenes.
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And if I may be so bold at the moment, I'd huge praise to you, to Tyler o', Neill, to of course producer Nick as well, who found that a list of the NGO grantees have been wiped from the Minnesota Department of State website in the last week, or at least is temporarily down amid a huge shift in, you know, fraud investigations. And then of course, over at the NGO monitor crew, I believe it was actually that NGO organization or monitoring organization in Israel that caught some of the initial fraud in the Ukrainian situation that we just talked about on the show. Well, the last time I was in D.C. thank you so much for the work that you guys are doing. Can't thank you enough.
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Absolutely, Tony. It's always a pleasure to join you.
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Now, the radio crew, you guys have a commercial break to get to on the live stream. We're going to talk about this Ukraine thing because you haven't heard about this in the media. It's the Tony Kenned cast here on the Daily Signal, and I'm really not joking. The New York Times published an article today called, and I quote, zelensky's government sabotaged oversight, allowing corruption to fester. Oh, wait, you. You haven't, you haven't heard anything? Remember the New York Times and other outlets when the Trump administration was the Trump campaign and they were saying things like, hey, has anyone noticed that there's this major corruption in Ukraine that's concerning. And what was the reaction to that? Oh, well, you must really want Putin to win. That's Russian propaganda and disinformation, and you're a dumb, big, dumb liar. And the Trump campaign responded, no, no, no, they are stealing the money from not just the people and the governments funding the NGOs, the United States, Western Europe, for example, but also they are defrauding and defunding their own citizens. They are taking money from their own people in Eastern Ukraine who are on the front lines fighting for Zelensky's administration. And then as we talked about with Steve Cortez, as I referenced in my interview with Virginia, the golden toilet. The golden toilet. The Zelensky administration took bunches of money with different individuals in the administration and was so loaded, they bought a golden toilet. That's why that, that story is named that particularly. And then Zelensky used the Ukrainian parliament. Parliament through an emergency motion to quash their country's version of, like the financial FBI who was investigating Zelensky's administration. None of that has anything to do with Putin's move into Ukraine at all. Other than that it is a really gross time to commit these levels of fraud. Well, the New York Times is corroborating this. Oh, oh, I'm sorry, you didn't hear about this yet on. On the New. Oh, no one. Because this would require a lot of Democrats and Republicans to eat a lot of crow. I was told that asking any questions. If you asked any questions about the Zelensky administration, if you alleged that an Eastern European country might be corrupt, because that's totally out of the realm of possibility, then you were pure evil in a Russian mouthpiece. Yeah.
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What is. Apparently Zelensky doesn't study history very much, especially Roman with Nero. What is up with corruption around money and ending up making golden bathrooms or bathrooms made of gold?
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That's a really good question. I've always been fascinated by why do.
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You want to poop in gold?
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You Know what? We might have to dig into that in mail time. You know, if anybody wants to know, like, about, like the whole gold bathroom thing. I do have some thoughts on that whole measure, but that's not important for now. We have news. According to reporters Constant Mayhout and Kim Barker, when Russian troops invaded Ukraine, Kyiv's Western allies faced a dilemma. Excuse me. Kiev's Western allies faced a dilemma. How to spend billions supporting a government fighting Russia without watching the money vanish into the pockets of corrupt managers and government officials. Hang on a second here. This is the New York Times. To protect their money, the United States and European nations insisted on oversight. They required Ukraine to allow groups of outside experts, known as supervisory boards, to monitor spending, appoint executives, and prevent corruption. Over the past four years, a New York Times investigation found. Oh, piss off. Piss off. The Ukrainian government systematically sabotaged the oversight, allowing the graph to flourish. Do you remember when Trump and Vance were in the White House with Zelensky and he was called out on this? You've obstructed a lot of the watchdogs on your spending. Americans want to know where the money has gone. And it was. How could he say, berate a brave world leader of great exuberance and majesty in the White House.
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And, oh, you didn't see this headline on cnn. Oh, you didn't see that. What was CNN talking about in the last couple days? What was MSNBC or Ms. Now talking about in the last couple of days? What has the media been discussing? Well, we're gonna talk about that and the racial switching that's occurred. It's the Tony Kennett cast. We gotta bring the radio crew back from commercial. Don't y' all go anywhere.
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It's the Tony Kenneth cast on 93 WYPC. Welcome back to the Tony Kenneth cast. Boy howdy. While the media was ignoring this again, New York Times report that came out at 2pm today that said, yeah, you know, Trump was kind of right about the questions with, you know, Ukraine. How long is it until. By the way, we have the Trump was. The Trump administration was right about the migrant problem with people from Somalia. We'll get to that in just a second because right now there is a lot of dunking going on over the brilliant reporting over from Jake Tapper's crew on Brian Cole Jr. The alleged pipe bomber, over. That had previously. Well, excuse me. Brian Cole Jr. The son of a bail bondsman in Tennessee, an organization that had, during the first Trump administration, been suing the Trump Department of Homeland Security in order to try to free illegal Immigrants from the custody of ICE in 2018 and 2019. Then 2021 rolls around and this guy, Brian Cole Jr. Takes pipe bombs to Washington D.C. plants them outside the RNC and the DNC. There's all kinds of footage that corroborates it. Now there is Representative Thomas Massie of Kentucky very stupidly alleging on X right now that because there was a Walmart egg timer used as the counting device, that that means that it couldn't have possibly been set for 16 hours, which appeared to be the detonation time, by the way. That's very stupid. That's dumb. That's a dumb thing to ask. Yes, you can tamper with a device as complex as a Walmart egg timer, which is run with a metal spring. Sorry, I just. Stupidity for no reason just bothers me. If you're gonna be stupid, at least be stupid for a good reason. So anyway, you know, like for a hot girl or something. Don't just be stupid on social media because you feel like it. Come on. Anyway, we're gonna get emails. Jake Tapper said, you know, there's a lot of reporting about this Brian Cole Jr. Guy. And so here's the reporting. Media is just doing great, y'. All. Capital attack. Brian Cole Jr. A 30 year old white man from the. Hang on a second here. Now I'm watching the live stream. Producer Nick, are you watching the live stream?
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Yeah, you're watching the live stream, all right. We're all watching this here. If you're listening on the radio, I want to tell you there is a photo of Brian Cole Jr. On the screen. Now I am not an expert on ethnicity. I'm not an expert on all of these various human soft science studies on like the bone structure or the melanin content or the hairline or the genetic traits passed down by various ethnic groups or whatever that whatever pseudoscience. Nick, does this guy look white to you?
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No.
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Maybe I heard him wrong. Maybe, maybe, you know, maybe Jake Tapper said just to be fair.
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Here, run it back.
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Maybe, maybe he meant to say a.
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Well, kind of black guy. I don't know. Let's, let's hear him. Capital attack. Brian Cole Jr. A 30 year old white man from the D.C. suburbs. I heard white man also gendered. Rude to just assume his gender, but yeah, yeah, obviously got the report completely wrong. Is charged with transporting an explosive device in interstate commerce and with malicious destruction by means of explosions. Now the reason that I point this out is that Jake Tapper gets more fussy than a middle aged Baptist woman whose Recipe was stolen at a church potluck. He gets more fussy than anyone, outraged, indignant if someone questions the reporting of anyone on cnn. Anyone. And by the way, there are a couple of really good reporters over at CNN whose work is tarnished and lowered whenever Jake or one of his co hosts like Dana Bash defends shoddy garbage reporting. But then he goes out here and he makes a racial assertion. There's no call, you can just say a 30 year old man, you don't have to get out there and get out the brush and say this kind of a thing because I guarantee you if there would have been a concern or a suggestion, maybe a T shirt in the past that had a Confederate battle flag on it or something, Jake would not have hesitated to immediately assess political motive. He's done that before. It's really shoddy garbage media, whatever. And I don't care for it. And why am I telling you this? Because again, this was chosen to be spoken about still today these issues are still top of line. Nothing about the New York Times article that explains that the Zelensky administration in Ukraine, regardless of how disgusting the Russian invasion is, the Ukrainian administration has defrauded the American people via non governmental organizations.
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And via the the sweat, the labor and the money stolen from their own people. Now I do have to bring things around back really quickly here because there's one issue on the NGO stuff that we haven't been able to talk about. I've been working with our, one of our senior editors, Tyler o' Neill from the Daily Signal on the Lutheran non governmental organization known as the Lutheran Social Services NGO. They have resettled 100,000 Somalians since 1993. Yeah, by the way, that would be in process encouraged by George H.W. bush.
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They have received what we estimate in that amount of time just for Somalians in RNP per capita, $20 million in ORR grants, that's Health and Human services long term service grants, around 15 to 25 million dollars alone just for Somalian peoples. 35 to 45 million dollars in additional funding like LIRS national grant allocation directly in congressional budget spending. So 35 to 45 million dollars. There's some, there's some questions because several organization like Lutheran and Catholic groups were linked to for example in the Lutheran demographics other synods. For example in 2018, $4 million in a rote grant for Somalians. 2009 $29.9 million just for Minnesota Somali resettlement and of course in 2025 an ORR block grant that kicked in in that particular basically like a carryover Democrat provision that was introduced during the Biden administration, $19 million for resettlement via the Lutheran Social Services Organization. Now, they also receive five to $10 million per year from, for example, the Minnesota Department of Human Services. You know, that organization that Tim Walls just announced was, was expanding its family and municipal operations so that if you wanted to spend more time with your children, then he'd give you money. Remember that, huh? And now that all of that Somali fraud has been or a lot of it, can't say all of it because God knows it's going to get worse. Even Ilhan Omar is like, oh, yeah, it's going to get way better. And she's correct. It went from 1 billion to $8 billion in 24 hours. Oh, well, now there are new Minnesota provisions. Presto, just for you.
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Now, while many of the media outlets, like, for example, KSTP, that's ABC5 in the Twin Cities area, has asserted that, well, I mean, sure, billions of fraud Somalians, but I mean, come on, Somali Minnesotans, they drive economic growth, $67 million in taxes annually. 67 million. Producer Nick.
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Now, I'm just gonna, you know.
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Just take a little bit of a hazarded guess here. 67 times 32. Let's assume that we imported 100,000 Somalis all at the same time in 1993, and we were making that amount of tax money at that point since then, they still would not have canceled out a third of the overall estimated fraudulent money that Somali migrants have taken from the people of Minnesota and the people of the United States in the fraudulent taking of federal grants and then redistributed through remittance back to Somalia. Radio crew, we got to send you over to the commercial because the media's, you know, got to pay for it, at least on the radio side. We'll see you in a second. We're going to continue on the live stream. It's the Tony Kenneth cast.
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All right, let's talk about something a little different than the media coverage of the NGOs for a second, because there are some other pundits who are downright upset and grumpy over a lot of Americans saying, you know what, maybe if Somalians haven't contributed anything, maybe they don't really need to be here. Maybe we don't need to keep importing buckets and buckets of people from Somalia. And Keith Ellison, the attorney General of Minnesota, he's really upset. He's big mad about it, and he's out with a new theory. Again, Democrat, Attorney General, Minnesota, that none of this was done to send money back to Somalia, where we've confirmed that it's gone. He says it was just to, like, buy themselves gold toilets or whatever. You know, kind of a play on words there. Here's Keith Ellison, but he's trying to.
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Say that then they use this money to then fund.
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Al Shabaab. And there literally is no evidence of this.
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There's the only evidence that we have are the direct transfers of monies showing up in The CIA and NSA's obtained records of all Shabab accounts. I. I know they have some really incredible technology in the world, but I'm pretty sure a US Mint printing press did not magically appear in Mogadishu, mainly because Obiden wasn't elected for another term. Producer Nick.
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I mean, there's no evidence of it. Like, there's no evidence of Ellison making trade for protecting the fraud schemes, for backing from the Somali communities.
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So he goes on to say that just, just a couple of people, a few isolated incidents, none of them working together, nobody knew anything, and they were just personally enriching themselves. And again, remember, Ilhan Omar said, well, sometimes there just aren't enough safeguards. And so maybe people accidentally steal $8 billion of money.
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But Dr. Oz of the Department of Health and Human Services, again, so many federal agencies are hopping in on this one in particular. You want the receipts? You got them.
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It's true. A Somali fraud ring in Minnesota stole over a billion dollars from Medicaid. How did this happen? Well, Medicaid programs are run by the states, which in Minnesota means the Tim Wallace administration, Governor Walz, and the state's other Democrats rely on Somali votes to get elected. So they decided to look the other way because they were afraid of, quote, unquote, political backlash. Don't take my word for it. That's what a Somali American fraud investigator told the New York Times. When these scammers realized that nobody was guarding the cash register, they went gangbusters. One program designed to provide housing stabilization assistance to patients ballooned to $104 million, when four years ago, it was projected to cost only 2.6 million.
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And he goes on to articulate in too much time that we don't actually have right now to share that they have individualized receipts and descriptions of this money going then not to people in Minnesota, not even to enrich themselves and buy fancy houses, but back to Somalia. And this is really, really, really, really upset some of the pundits we're gonna have to get to in a little bit because right now there is a lot of outrage over how you actually go about addressing all of this. There's a huge amount of outrage right now over how we actually go about addressing some of this illegal immigration and situation and issues in the country. We gotta bring the radio crew back from commercial one last time, so don't go anywhere. We'll be right back. It's the Tony Kenned cast here on the Daily Signal.
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You're listening to the Tony Kenneth cast on 93 WIBC.
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Now in the beginning of pretty much every federal investigatory report right now on the developing fraud ring in Minnesota. The word that is used to describe the fraud ring is the Somali fraud ring. This has upset people on the left of course, because how could you say all Somalis love Somalia more than America? And it's also annoying some people on the right who are trying to virtue signal. There are some kind of older school establishment Republicans who are sitting atop their high horse right now and making the case that well, you can't just blame all Somalia. That's very terrible. After all, you wouldn't, you wouldn't look at someone like in the mob, as one conservative politico put it, like conservative politico put it that. Well, I mean you wouldn't say that the.
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The Italian mobs were like a, a, a, a white crime ring.
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Well, yeah, because there were individualized criminal groups that were under specific common denominators. The common denominator for the Somali crime ring in Minnesota is not that they are all black, it is not that they are all Muslim. It is not that they are all straight or that they all come from families with this many kids or they come from this income bracket or that they no longer. The common denominator of those who are currently sending remittance monies back to Somalia who are migrating to this country in order to get their hands on one of these.
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One of these magical things called a US passport so they can send truckloads of money back to Somalia. The common denominator is they are Somalian. Now the stupidity that is coming out in the pearl clutching even on the right come from people, for example, like Ann Coulter. She doesn't like this statement from Dr. Oz saying the Somali fraud ring. She didn't care if she says some bad actors in Minnesota's Somali community decided to game the system. I think all Somalis should be blamed for some bad actors only as long as all white Americans are blamed for some bad actors who own slaves. So far that's 170 plus years.
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So the point that she's making is ridiculous.
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Number two, believe it or not, there are greater common denominators in this particular instance. Least common multiples probably would be the better mathematical term here that show that Somali is really the right term. Because as we look at the people from the Somali migrant community, they are almost universally very, very ideologically similar. They have a lot of the same goals. It is not just limited to a 70 people, a few bad actors in Minnesota. That is the most naive nonsense I've ever heard. Case in point, from over in Maine, Democrat, Maine Representative Deca Zala makes it very clear that the only reason she's doing anything, her sole duty is to use American taxpayer dollars to build in Somalia. Not joking. Here you go. Policies. How can the politics in Somalia, you know, resonate what we have here in the United States, the democracy that we have? How can you help us, you know, be a better country and build back.
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What we used to have back in long time ago. So hopefully we will be able to.
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Help our country, our former country, Somalia. Now here's my issue. Here would be my issue with the. Well, maybe Ann, you know, kind of has a point. Maybe we really shouldn't say, you know, that Somali migrants are kind of the problem. The reason they are suggesting that that kind of talk manifests in policy right now. The Trump administration says no more immigration for the moment from these 19 countries, no more. Because the majority of issues we are currently having involve migrants from these countries. There was a cultural issue of import. So we're going to stop and we're going to vet everyone who's come from these countries right here, right now before we do anything else. This natural assumption of innocence of anyone ever that like not only do you have to assume that people out there have a committed. So let me put it this way, this assumption of goodness, not innocence, assumption of goodness that because someone is an immigrant, they want to come to the United States. That makes them just Little House on the Prairie fantastic. They're just, they gotta be wonderful. It's this George Bushy an idea that caused the United States to countless dead in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars because we didn't conquer those countries in those wars. Let's just fill the democracy because after all, all cultures are the same and what they really just need is democracy and freedom and kindness. No, as Ilhan Omar admitted, if you bring Somali migrants into an area and you don't set up 800 guardrails and 3,000 security cameras and lock everything up, there will be large amounts of theft and fraud and rape and abuse and violence because those are cultural hallmarks of people in Somalia.
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And if your mind immediately goes, oh well, that's a black problem or that's a Muslim problem, buddy, that ain't me putting that idea in your head. The word that has been used is the least common multiple, the greatest common denominator in this situation. Somali works because it is accurate. Now if you don't like that, you say that. Well, I don't. That's a, that's a problem for me. There are cultures that are objectively better than other cultures.
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And if you don't understand that, by all means fly to one of these places and have a conversation. They'll tell you to your face. You can probably drive to some of the cities. Again, as I just pointed out, the Democrat main representative, Deca Delak, made it clear what she thought her rule was. We have videos, countless videos of people in Dearborn, Michigan of people in St. Paul, Minnesota and these different migrant communities that make it clear who their allegiance is to, who they are willing to step on or destroy or kill or plunder to get it. And, and if you don't bring them in, then they pull out the victim card. Well, I'm just coming here for a better life. Yes. At everyone else's expense.
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I, I'm just, I'm not moved. I don't care. Pause it. Just because something is going on somewhere around the world that may be terrible does not mean that that person in a terrible situation somewhere around the world is entitled to a place in the United States with government taxpayer funded assistance and exceptions and specialties and extra breaks and help that Americans aren't getting.
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They're not. And you say, well, it's like a really old kind of, you know, Jim Crow esque idea. No, no, no, no, it is not. Dwight D. Eisenhower made it perfectly clear after the second World War that the United States needed some standards so that the culture of the United States, which was targeted by different religious and political groups around the world, would be maintained and not ideologically corrupted and subverted from the inside. To suggest otherwise is patent foolishness.
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And by the way, I also really do enjoy the idea that if the United States just takes our hands off and stops paying attention, that we won't have massive piracy and swashbuckling on a global scale, which has been shown every time there's a vacuum of a hands on approach to any kind of a situation. But that said, radio crew, we're going to continue over on the live stream. We will catch you guys very soon. It's the Tony Kenned cast here on the Daily Signal.
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All right, live stream crew, got some excellent content for the rest of the show this evening. Before we get into mail time, I want to talk a little bit about the redistricting fight in Indiana. We're going to go over to John Fredericks from the Trump news team over in a couple of minutes here. But before we do, I want to just stay right off the top of the bat regarding the arguments around gerrymandering in this country. It is a case of seeking detente in the Cold War. The United States and the Soviet Union started arming themselves with lots of nukes and the Soviets started putting a lot of their nuclear sites aimed at the United States. And in kind, the United States placed nuclear sites that were then aimed toward the Soviet Union and only after the United States showed that it was willing to wipe as much of the Soviet Union off the face of the Earth as the United States or the United States was willing to wipe off as much of the Soviet Union as vice versa, that the United States and the Soviet Unions were able to enter a period of detente, of both backing away from the big red button. Right now in this country with redistricting, that is what is happening. The House of Representatives is a national game and different states have obligations to send representatives to Congress via the mapping of their state legislatures. And what you've had in the last couple of decades is an aggressive gerrymandering from blue states like California and Illinois and Washington State and Massachusetts and on and on and so forth. And Republicans in response did nothing. They said, well, those states are really bad. What can you do about it? The answer was you can go big and make Democrats very well aware on the left side of the aisle if you are going to manipulate, if you are going to be fraudulent with the systems put in place by the US Constitution that were argued very explicitly and overtly in the Federalist Papers in the Constitutional Congress in the early years of the American experiment in the Articles of Confederation into the constitutional United States.
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That a period of if you start to manipulate this system that was set up, then we will also go all in until you back away and return to a more pleasing to the eye kind of map.
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And there are a lot of people right now who simply do not want to recognize that there are those in the country that are willing to tear apart anything at all at any time and leave you with nothing.
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And so right now, Texas is redistricting and Indiana is proposing a redistricting because there is a racially segregated district in the center of our state. And in the northwestern portion of our state, there are other Republican states that are considering redistricting. Because until states that are red are able to say, you want to mess around, we will defend our representation in the House of Representatives. Nothing's going to change. Nothing's going to change because, yes, constitutionally, it is up to the state legislatures to decide how to district. There is no constitutional provision that says, well, if you have. If four out of 10 voters in your state is Republican and six out of 10 voters are Democrats, then you need four Republican districts and six Democrat districts. That's not what was set up for Congress was supposed to be directly affected by the state legislature. In the Senate, it was supposed to be the direct election of senators. And the House. The House organized the districts and then the people voted in the congressional elections. And if they didn't like the map drawn by their state legislature, they voted in a different state legislature. The United States government is built to make you interested in all of the parts at all of the time. Getting involved in one part of the government ruins the rest of it, not caring about the rest. And so, with that said, I want to give a little bit of an update on the Indiana situation. I have yet to actually make my case of why Indiana redistricting is necessary. There's a lot of dyspepsia and heartburn about it and a lot of crying in tears and, oh, this isn't fair. And, oh, it's terrible. I genuinely believe that right now, in order to reach a period of detente, you have to be willing to show. Yeah, I'll press that red button. A good friend of mine, John Fredericks, the man, the myth, the legend outside of the state House in Indianapolis. Not me. I'm over here on the eastern side of the state. But again, the redistricting fight is in full swing. John, tell us what you know.
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Well, listen, action, action, action. Tony, thank you for having me. Lace them up and lace them tight. We got a battle on our hands right here. This vote over the next week by the state Senate in Indianapolis could, in Indiana, could very much determine the outcome of who controls the House of Representatives come November in these midterms. And of course, we all know if, if the Republicans lose control of the House, they're going to impeach President Trump on the third day. They're going to drag everybody in for hearings. It's going to be basically a communist takeover. There's nothing we're going to be able to do about it. It's going to Stop Trump's presidency cold. That's why this is so critical. And we start right here in Indiana on the heels of, I know you've talked about it, the great victory yesterday in SCOTUS giving Texas those five seats. And basically what SCOTUS says is if the General assembly mandates a map, we're good. So that's going to take a lot of these off the table on the, the lawsuits. But here we are. Let me give you the update in Indy, Indiana, and we're right outside the Capitol in Indianapolis. Number one, the state delegation, the congressional delegation is seven to two. The those that want to get this done with the redistricting want to make it nine. Oh, that's plus two. Moments ago, the Republicans got a quorum in the lower house. In the House of Representatives in Indiana, they needed 67 people to show up. They got that. They have a quorum. And so it's going to pass. The redistricting, which they have maps, is going to pass out of the House a little bit later on today. It's going to pass handily. The only question there was could they have a 67 vote quorum? They do. The Democrats can basically go home now. They have no role in the lower chamber. Now. Once it passes a little bit later on this afternoon, the redistricting bill will go to the Indiana State Senate. It'll go to.
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Great. It'll, it'll go to Mike.
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Chris, well, he is the chairman. Mike is of the Elections Commission. He'll mark it up. He'll get it on the calendar for Monday. Now here's the thing. In order for this to pass, we need 26 votes out of 50, 50 state senators. Republicans have a 40 to 10 vote advantage in the state Senate. It's hard to sit here and imagine why I got to be here for, why I'm here for two weeks when we have a 30 vote majority in Indiana. In the state Senate, we need 26 votes, not 25 because Micah Beckworth, Beckwith, I'm sorry, the lieutenant governor is not going to break the tie because if they don't have 26, the Democrats walk out and it's 25 to something. There's no tie. It dies. We need 26 votes right now. They're telling me, I had Liz Brown on today, I had Lieutenant Governor Beckwith on other state senators, Gary Byrne, they're telling Me They've got 22 positive votes right now, two of them a little bit softer, but they've got 22. They're for short. They're going to need to pick those four up between now and what we anticipate the final vote will be after all the amendments and all the shenanigans the Democrats do in their stall tactics to get to 26. The obstacle, of course, is, as you know, your Indiana State Senate Majority leader, Rod Bray, who is adamantly opposed to this, we understand he's got 15, at least 15 solid nos. So this thing is very, very tight. We need to pick up four. Obviously, the Trump administration has not been shy on the political side in saying that they will not hesitate to spend a lot of their billion dollar PAC primary, some of these rhinos out that vote no. So we'll see what happens. It's about 5050 as of today. We need plus four between now and Friday.
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So that's one of the interesting things here because I've obviously heard about a lot of the primary suggestions and of course, all of the different maneuvering that's, that's currently going on. The question that I have is how does the Trump administration, how does the Indiana Republican Party at this point, what are the maneuvers at play? What are the levers at play here to get those four flipped? So given what we know on the ground, given we know currently the fights in play, what is it that we believe can be used to get those four no Republican votes to four yes.
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Republican votes to save America?
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Do you think that's going to leverage those particular Republicans enough to actually get them to flip? Because right now I'm hearing is, well, I don't like that they called my grandson and I don't like that Trump used the R word and a bunch of other really random and weird excuses. State Senator Kyle Walker has already announced he's not running for reelection. He's just sitting there pouting. I mean, the idea that we can come in and appeal to their sense of humanity here, I mean, they're already picking really whiny excuses. I mean, are there any leverages that you've heard that maybe pack a bit of a wallop outside of what should encourage every American to vote in favor of this? But clearly, is it given some of the petty excuses?
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Well, you're right, Tony. I mean, you obviously start with do the right thing to save the country. Now, if you don't want to do that because you want to whine and moan about Indiana, nice, or this is all going to go away or we don't need it or the maps are fine and we don't want to be like them. When you're done with that whining, let me Bottom line this for you. If you want to hold your seat, you're going to vote with us. Because if you don't, let me tell you what's going to happen. The Trump MAGA Inc. Pac has about $1.2 billion in it. They will not hesitate to pick out really good candidates and oust these Rhinos in a primary with millions and millions of dollars. So if you want to vote no and then you want to retire and go, you know, do something with your family, fine. But if you think you're going to stay in the Republican ranks in the state Senate in Indiana and you think you're just going to skate through with no opposition in a primary, they will spend, they will dispatch Chris La Civita here and they will spend tens of millions of dollars to get you out. That is the bottom line. And if you want to know really where the pressure is, if you don't just do the right thing because you want to save your country and that's what you're faced with, guess what? You're going to be out of a job like that. Boom. They got the money. They got the wherewithal. Now because you have an open primary, these Rhinos are going to have to bank on Democrat voters crossing over. Good luck doing that. That is where this thing is headed if we can't get these four or five votes.
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I think that's pretty on point there. And again, it's one of the things that I see that consistently makes me smile is the number of individuals who have said they're just going to sit there and do nothing. The age of sitting there and doing nothing appears to be about over. And finally, not just, of course, at the federal level, but at the state level as well. I know a lot of Hoosiers are looking forward to that. John Fredericks, again, cannot thank you enough for the work that you're doing. Appreciate your stuff. Over at the Trump Team News. Let's go. Glad to have you, man. We'll talk at you real soon.
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Okay, Tony, thank you. And go Hoosiers Saturday night. Take the five.
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All right, we're going to swing away real quick. Be back for just a little bit of mail time. Don't go anywhere. It's the Tony Kennett cast here on the Daily Signal. Mail time.
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Mail time.
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TONY kenned cast. All right, a little bit of mail time just to round out the rest of this excellent week of shows. You guys have some really stellar ones and some sarcastic ones that I really, really enjoy. So first of all, from a really nice guy, he said SG5, he says, how can we legally revoke the traitors or essentially the illegal immigrant supporters citizenship? How do you deport your average green card socialist more efficiently? Well, there's. There's kind of two things there. So as far as people who have green cards to be in the country, you're here at the behest and the granting of the State Department. So if the State Department decides that you are not upholding your end of the deal as a long term guest in the United States, your green card is not your. Your citizenship papers. So if you are not a citizen of the United States and the State Department decides you're not filling your end of the deal, they can kick you out. And Rubio is making sure the State Department is going through. A lot of the deportation and removal cases involve a lot of Rubio getting political actors out of the country that have no business being here. You're not a citizen of the country. You have no right to come here and engage political. You're not a citizen of this country. Sovereign franchise expression is reserved for citizens. Nick, did you have something to add to that?
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Yeah, I was just going to mention that we already have a strong precedent among those who hold visas for education. Education visas in regards to the militant actors during the pro Palestine protests on campus.
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Yeah, Yep, yep. Excellent example there. Regarding denaturalization processes, there's a lot of mixed settlement or. Excuse me, there's a lot of mixed precedent in the legal land for this. The Supreme Court has ruled a couple of different ways regarding different cases on it. A lot of federal courts have really ruled in different ways. There's not really a way to make that more efficient. The best thing to do regarding denaturalization processes would be to make sure that the laws are upheld in a more strict standard for individuals that commit crimes like fraud. If you commit a certain level of fraud and that comes with a revocation of your citizenship, that's something to discuss. But then you have to consider individuals who might be accused of some kinds of fraud for political reasons. And then what? Like do they get denaturalized? That is a situation where we haven't really broken into that particular Pandora's box because you got to kind of wedge that one open with a crowbar. And once it's open, that's a really tough one to shut again. We have enough situations that we're trying to crawl our way back to detent on. We don't really need more. At least right now. This one from Matt, he says, speaking of Operation Arctic Frost, would repealing the Patriot act have stopped the wiretapping of senators phones? No, no. There are lots of other national laws and acts that have been passed since the Patriot act that are independent of the Patriot Act. And also judges in this country right now can essentially act pretty much in secrecy whenever they want. They don't actually have to go on the record as certain things like wiretappings and certain kinds of warrants are issued. That's not a Patriot act thing. That's been since like the 1910s and 20s. The government has allowed that kind of interception. Federal judges have too much power in this country. And by the way, do I have an answer and a solution to that? Not off the top of my head, no. It's just a problem really. The best way probably is making an example of judges who abuse it. And then you get into how I think that crimes should be paid for. And I'm not a sit in jail on the taxpayer's dime for 60 years kind of guy.
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Producer Nick, a bit of foreshadowing. The judge involved in this case, Boasberg, had some impeachment filings put against him.
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Very, very, very, very true indeed. Which we'll look at in the Senate and also that'll make more sense in the future. Yeah, maybe next week. I don't want to tease guests that are coming on the show because anytime on the show we have ever this guest is going to be here on this day. Things change.
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Like, like, like I'm knocking on what.
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Global news that Nick usually manifests into existence. Okay, another excellent question. I've been looking forward to answering this one. This is from Delpix. Hey, producer Nick. And therefore yours truly. Do you remember last night when Tony was talking about the Ulysses S. Grant Reconstruction administration and how there were states that tried rewording bad laws after the Civil War? What were some of those states that did that? Like, what are the examples? Well, these are the actual Jim Crow laws, not the ones that Democrats like what they think they're whining about. And like everything is a Jim Crow law. To those over on the left right now, the actual Jim Crow laws are a series of constitutional amendments and laws passed in states like Mississippi, South Carolina, Louisiana, North Carolina, Alabama, Virginia, Georgia, Florida and Texas in the also Arkansas and Tennessee in the late 1800s and Virginia and Texas in the night in the early 1900s as well as Alabama, North Carolina, that directly attempted to undercut individuals rights by saying, okay, well we can't restrict you because we're, we're black. But In Mississippi in 1870, five, there was a.
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They adopted the 14th amendment to the Constitution which was the requirement that they ratify the 14th amendment in order to become a state and stop being part of military districts, which was a disaster. And so in 1890, Mississippi, excuse me, passed or ratified a new constitution which said that if you are illiterate or you don't understand certain vocabulary words, then you have to pay a more significant poll tax and you don't get to vote. And that was used because people who were sharecroppers, both white and black then weren't able to vote. And so that was an issue in South Carolina. There were literacy tests. There was also an eight box ballot situation which was. That's another tale for another time. Louisiana in 1877 had the grandfather clause which said, well, even though we ratified the 14th amendment, we didn't mean it. Which is weird because New Orleans had the most liberal policies regarding black rights throughout the South's very short existence. But you know, Louisiana's legislature's always been a disaster. Just ask Hugh with long North Carolina literacy test. Alabama just adopted an insane series of resolutions for its constitution. Virginia, illiteracy and a poll tax. Georgia got really interesting and said there's a cumulative poll tax. So we're going to tax you based on not just your property, but also if you rent, we're going to charge you the same property tax because you're renting on that land to vote, which is nuts. Like if you lived in an apartment building, you would be charged for the property tax of that entire building at the polls. So crazy, crazy stuff there that led to a couple of violent stabbings. Actually some of the most violent stabbings in our nation's history happened in like 1923 in Georgia because of that specifically. So those kinds of laws in in place. You don't want to dig into it for too long, but those kinds of things. Let's see, next question. Very nice. Can Tony run for Congress? Is it feasible or is it the concern based in I have a shoe, I don't want to give that up. I'm saying Tony clearly cares. So what are the hold holdups? Why not run for Congress? Well, I assume by I have a shoe, I don't want to give it up. You mean I have something good going, so why would I want to pass up, you know, like give up the show and run for office? I'm going to be honest with you, that's part of it. I really don't want to stop doing what I'm doing now because I love this. I Love getting to talk to you guys and go into some news and hear from you and cover this kind of stuff. It's fun. Congress sucks. I don't like it. And also, I really hate campaigning more than anything because it's so linked to money and donations and speeches and all that. I just don't care for it.
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Financial development. I used to raise money for a robotics team in Knightstown, Indiana, that I coached. And I didn't like it. I don't know. I've just always been kind of against asking people for, for money. And so, yeah, that's not something that I've really been interested in. The other, the biggest issue is I have a bigger impact here right now. You see a lot of congressmen and women who want to be broadcasters.
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You do. I mean, goodness gracious, if you don't think that Marjorie Taylor Greene has spent more time trying to be an influencer than a congresswoman, pay attention to her social media. She's on the left side of the aisle, the right side of the aisle. People want to be in media. That's why they're on camera all the time. I'll be on camera all the time. I'll do that. You do your job. You know, also, I don't think I'd be able to handle the decorum. Like, I don't think I'd ever be able to be polite to Amy Klobuchar, even if I was called before, like, a Senate committee hearing. And I. They were like, what, Mr. Kennett? What do you think? And I would be like, well, Amy Klobuchar, you saggy armed jerk and staff abuser. And they'd be like, you can't talk to the senator that way. And I said, well, I don't respect people who abuse their staff and family. And then that would end real quick. So, like, the faux, like, friendship, buddy, pal thing. Yeah, probably not one of mine. There was a question about what I thought about the Netflix and Warner Brothers HBO merger. I'm going to ask you to pause on that one because we're going to try to sit down and talk with our very own. What you watching, Stephen Kent, about that? And as producer Nick told me, stuff is kind of, what do you say, like, in flux. There's different groups here and there.
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C
And there was also already a hostile offer from another company put on the line.
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I got Richard Lincoln. In answer to the, the running for Congress, why would Tony volunteer to bathe in sewage continuously? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 100, 110%. So you know, that, that, that, that Definitely a part of it. There's another question that is, you know, I'm sure, rather sarcastic. This from Planet Frosty. I assume this is in regard to the Indiana redistricting thing. He says, quote, do Indiana GOPeers or Indiana Republican Indian Republicans want to be known as communists.
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That's not what communism is. Communism is when the state controls fully industry and redistributes it and controls and mandates in an authoritarian way every facet of social, political and economic life. Having a majority party that acts like a majority political party is not communism. If your state elects a majority or a super majority of one party that was elected duly, as in fully, the idea that whoever's in power that you don't like has to play fair.
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What is fair? What do you mean fair? Didn't the voters not vote? Tell me, who in Indiana doesn't have a right to vote? Who? Who out there? Tell me. These people that their votes don't count, you say, well, but there, there will be Democrats in Indianapolis who won't be able to vote with all the other Democrats. That's not what having a vote means. You have no constitutional right to be grouped with your political party and form some fractured European parliamentary system, which, by the way, is how they do things. That's a parliament system is where you have to cobble together coalitions based on fairness so that I have my party and my party is established in the Constitution. And therefore we govern and we organize and they get even less done. It's even more corrupt. And no, people aren't represented.
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The truth of the matter is if people in California or Illinois or Indiana or Texas or any state with redistricting, if they really were upset about it, then the people would get out and elect a new state legislature. Most of the people in the country right now who are sovereign citizens don't care.
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And the reason, the idea that you need to make the government carry more weight because citizens do not care enough to run the government the way that citizens should is a bad way of doing things. Don't create a government. That's Mommy. That's Mommy. Well, we have to make locations for different parties over here. No. Why? If people don't like it, they'll get up, they'll rise up, they'll start voting and they'll change things. And by the way, for the record, the redistricting in Indiana, that's gerrymandering everything. You do realize that all of the districts that are taking a piece of the Indiana First Congressional up near Gary, Indiana, near Chicago, and all of the districts that are taking a piece of Indianapolis are becoming more moderate Republican districts. They are in play if the Democrats unite with other Democrats. You guys realize there are Democrats that live in Republican districts in the state, right? They will now have new allies to vote with. Maybe they overturn a seat. That's the gamble you play when you redistrict. It's one of the reasons that J.B. pritzker, the governor of Illinois and champion Golden Corral, investor and blackjack dealer extraordinaire or player. Anyway, that's one of the reasons why he can't redistrict Illinois or gerrymander it any harder. Because if he gerrymanders it any harder, he will moderate some of the districts that are barely blue right now. If you add Republicans to a blue district, it gets more purple.
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It has risks and rewards, benefits and detriments. The only rule in the books is you can't racially gerrymander it and you can't separate it and. And not have anyone living in the. The gerrymandering itself. So there you go. That's a little, little constitutional fun history on this. There is one last question or comment that I'll point out that I've been asking or waiting for people. This is from Tenebra and she says, tony, you need to update the White House on your shelf down there, the little Lego White House. Remove the east wing facade and put a big beautiful ballroom on it. So not to be that guy. This is the US Capitol. This is the thing that the FBI said made you one of the people that was responsible for plotting and planning the riot on January 6, the Lego Capitol building. I do, however, have.
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The Lego model of the White House and. Well, that's the west Wing. Yes, I absolutely will be removing the east wing of the White House and replacing it with a ballroom when that ballroom is completed. So funny you mentioned that. We've talked about that before. Yeah, we'll actually be scooping that out, although at the beginning of the year, calendar wise. Producer Nick, we're planning like changing the studio set completely, aren't we? We're. We're getting ready to do some pretty heavy constructive stuff, are we not?
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Yeah. This is not a known fact that I've shared on the show, but we do a bit of woodworking. I've done a bit of woodwork in the past. That's how we helped make the studio is a bit of experience in some of the trades. So we plan on doing a bit of set redesign.
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We do in fact plan on doing a bit of a set redesign so that that stuff is set. I'm getting so many fun messages on on this particularly. So that all said, I hope that you guys have a very, very wonderful week. I hope that you guys are weekend, I should say we have a relaxing time. It's been a busy news week. And heaven knows we'll be back on Monday with much, much more. So from all of us here at the Tony Kinnick Crew, I'm Tony Kennett, and this has been the Tony Kennett cast, nationally syndicated and first on 93 WIBC. Y' all take care of.