Ep. 464 - Trump's Indiana Redistricting Vote FAILS, Obamacare Fist-Fight in Senate, Veteran Hoax

Summary

The Tony Kennett Cast (The Daily Signal)

Episode 464: Trump’s Indiana Redistricting Vote FAILS, Obamacare Fist-Fight in Senate, Veteran Hoax
Date: December 12, 2025

Episode Overview

In this episode, Tony Kennett tackles three major political stories: the failed Trump-backed Indiana redistricting initiative, the Senate’s explosive fight over expiring Obamacare subsidies, and the exposure of a "veteran deportation" hoax during a contentious congressional hearing. With his signature candor, Tony, producer Nick, and guest Kurt Schlichter blend sharp critique, humor, and policy analysis to break down the latest developments affecting Indiana and the nation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Indiana Redistricting Vote: Trump’s Plan Fails

What Happened:

• A major redistricting bill in Indiana, aimed at turning the congressional map from likely 7-2 to a possible 9-0 Republican advantage, failed in the state Senate (19-31), despite a heavy GOP supermajority.
• President Trump and his administration had pushed for this more aggressive map ahead of the 2026 midterms.

Why It Matters:

• The map would have moderated hard GOP districts and “de-gerrymandered” Indianapolis from a racial voting perspective.
• Its failure exposes tension inside the Indiana GOP and between state and national party agendas.

Tony’s Take:

• “This vote this evening is, in fact, in the long term, in the long haul, a very good thing...Voters around the country are paying attention to who is moving forward and accomplishing things for the American people and who is essentially sitting around grumbling and mumbling.” (01:07)
• Tony argues transparency in the failings ultimately strengthens the local party, even if painful in the short term.

Notable Excuses From Senators:

• A senator cited Trump’s language about Tim Walz (“seriously retarded”) as a reason to vote no, due to a personal family situation.
• Senator Jean Lysing refused to vote in favor because her grandson received a mass text.
• Tony: “If you're someone who first of all is bringing that level of personal nonsense into a bill that affects the state, you're a clown to begin with.” (45:41)

Trump’s Response:

• Trump promises primaries against the “no” votes: “There's no reason for doing that. And the Democrats do it to us, so I can't imagine that they do it. But I wasn't very much involved. But there's a man named Bray as a... head of the Senate. Was that Bray?” (48:40)

Broader Analysis:

• Tony and Producer Nick make it clear: redistricting is a political, not a moral or fairness exercise, especially in the wake of aggressive moves by blue states:
  • “Gerrymandering is in and of itself political. That's why the Texas map is legal again. I have yet to hear a single coherent reason as to why the 21 Republicans who voted no...” (60:40)
• Political consequences are coming for legislative holdouts.

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2. Obamacare Subsidies: Senate Fist-Fight & GOP Alternatives

Issue at Hand:

• Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) subsidies are set to expire, with direct pressure on premiums for millions.
• Democrats (e.g., Rep. Elisa Slotkin) claim Republicans are killing poor people by letting subsidies lapse, while the left also refuses to negotiate.

Tony/Kennett’s Critique:

• Slotkin is called out as “one of the people who yanked the credits away, first of all.” (03:47)
• DNC passed a resolution to “refuse to negotiate with Republicans on health care.”
  • Clip at [05:29]: “This is one area that should not be negotiated. This is like negotiating with someone how much air they breathe in.”

Political Stagnation:

• Both parties accused of “kicking the can down the road.”
• Tony: “We are at $38 trillion in debt. It is climbing. It is hurting the United States how much we are spending on these entitlement programs.” (06:30)

Exposing Obamacare’s Failures:

• Premiums have doubled or tripled since ACA’s enactment.
  • Tony: “Obamacare was sold... as a program that would drive down premiums. ... Has that promise come to fruition? No, it has not.” (07:46)
• “If anything, quite the contrary… Senator Welch, I believe last month admitted... the law failed to reduce costs but more than that... accelerated the cost growth...” (08:23)

The Senate Fistfight:

• Three GOP alternatives proposed: by Sen. Crapo & Cassidy, Sen. Ted Cruz, and Sen. Rick Scott.
  • Health Savings Accounts (HSAs), instead of insurer subsidies, featured heavily.
• “For one of the first times, Republicans are saying, what if we actually took the plan and we put it on paper … it forces the Democrats to say no.” (13:08)

Interview with Sen. Rick Scott (Florida) ([16:09]):

• Scott pitches the “More Affordable Healthcare Act,” modeled on food stamps but for health care: give individuals direct control, not insurance companies.
  • “We have a food stamp program… we don’t give the money to the grocery store chain… We give it into a card… Why don’t we do the logical thing… stop giving the money to insurance companies and give it to the individual.” (17:18)
• Fraud safeguards are critical, echoing welfare lessons from when he was Florida governor.
  • “You've got to have skin in the game… You’ve got to verify who people are, and you got to verify their dependence.” (20:44)
  • “I don't believe we should extend the Biden Covid subsidies at all, period.” (21:39)

Key Takeaway:

• Despite readiness and actual plans, none passed the Senate—partisan gridlock continues.
• “Are we actually going to see Republicans measure like Rick Scott’s proposal here … drive forward with a pretty succinct power packed victory and a major success? No, I don’t think so.” (23:31)

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3. Congressional Hearing “Veteran Deportation” Hoax

What Sparked Outrage:

• House/Senate hearing featured a supposed US veteran, George Reits, who tearfully described being detained and deported.
  • “I identified myself as a US Citizen and a veteran, but that didn’t matter. Agent smashed my window, sprayed tear gas…” ([38:25])

The Facts:

• Tony exposes Reits as “hired security for the child labor marijuana farm in California”—not a wrongly deported vet.
  • “He was... an overseer for the pot farm. ... He challenged agents and blocked their route by refusing to move his vehicle.” (40:20)
• DHS had to formally rebut his media story.
• Producer Nick: “He, quote, became violent and refused to comply with law enforcement … arrested Reedy’s for assault.” (40:20)

Other ‘Gotchas’ Unraveled:

• Democrats invite a Korean-born Purple Heart vet who was “deported under Trump.”
  • Tony: “Sejun Park, the guy in the video, was not deported by the Department of Homeland Security. He self deported back to Korea ...after spending three years in jail for felony drug possession and bail jumping.” (42:47)

Tony’s Commentary:

• “These are the kinds of things they're rolling out now.” (43:38)
• "If you ever wondered if you could elect someone off the street to Congress to humiliate your state, with these House guests, apparently the answer is yes." (27:27)

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4. The Nationalization of Redistricting & Gerrymandering

Tony’s Argument:

• Redistricting is inherently political. Blue states gerrymander aggressively for their advantage; so should red states, until parity.
  • “Every single Republican state in this country should redistrict until California and Michigan and Massachusetts agree to back off.” (80:24)
• Civics lesson on Madison, federal balance, original congressional appointment, and shifting the battle to state legislatures.

Chris Garten’s Speech (54:13):

• “Some will say these maps are political. Let me be clear. You're damn right they are... If drawing a map that secures two more seats for the Republican Party means that we continue to see overdose deaths drop by 20%, then I'll draw that map every single day of the week and twice on Sunday... We're not here to be neutral arbiters of decline. We're here to be active agents of American greatness.”

Throughout:

• “The idea that you need to be the bigger person and play really nice and fair because the other side … is cheating—you are a fool.” (58:22, Producer Nick)

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5. Guest Segment: Kurt Schlichter on Indiana & GOP Inaction

Raucous Segment ([65:55]):

• Schlichter on Indiana Republicans: “What is it with femboys in Indiana? Are they all penis-free Mike Pences?” (66:10)
• The response to red state lethargy and inaction is “one seat at a time,” primarying weak lawmakers, and building grassroots pressure.
  • “It needs to be an organized... group that goes to every disputed district, finds a good candidate and says ‘We’re going to back you’... and then you go to the weak-willed Republican... [they’ll] suffer.” (72:33)

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Tony Kennett:

  • “This vote this evening is, in fact, in the long term, in the long haul, a very good thing.” (01:07)
  • “Obamacare was sold... as a program that would drive down premiums. ...Has that promise come to fruition? No, it has not.” (07:46)
  • “Are we actually going to see Republicans measure like Rick Scott’s proposal here … drive forward with a pretty succinct power packed victory and a major success? No, I don’t think so.” (23:31)

• Sen. Rick Scott:

  • “[Obamacare] has been a absolute disaster… I organized a group called Conservatives or Patients Rights to, you know, to try to stop it.” (16:09)
  • “We have a food stamp program… we don’t give the money to the grocery store chain and they’re going to decide what groceries you get... Why don’t we do the logical thing…stop giving the money to insurance companies and give it to the individual.” (17:18)
  • “You’ve got to have skin in the game… You’ve got to verify who people are, and you got to verify their dependence.” (20:44)

• Chris Garten (Indiana State Senator):

  • “Some will say these maps are political. Let me be clear. You're damn right they are... We're not here to be neutral arbiters of decline. We're here to be active agents of American greatness.” (54:13)

• Producer Nick:

  • “If you feel like being the better person and doing the fair thing is conceding the game to a player that is cheating, you are a fool.” (58:22)

• Kurt Schlichter:

  • “Are the people of Indiana going to do anything about this? ...you get a lot of people who are, you know, sexually inadequate, impotent femboys.” (67:13)
  • “It just takes time. In Texas, you know, it's one seat at a time. They got rid of a bunch of them and a bunch of the bad ones and they've redistricted, they've got school choice. You've gotta, you've gotta take back your party.” (68:43)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [00:17] — Show Start/Intro to Indiana Redistricting Vote
• [05:29] — DNC Resolution: ‘No Negotiation on Health Care’
• [07:46] — Obamacare Premiums & Broken Promises
• [11:38] — GOP Healthcare Alternatives Discussed
• [16:09] — Sen. Rick Scott Interview on GOP Health Proposal
• [25:10] — “Unfortunate Accident”: Mischaracterization of WV National Guard Shooting
• [38:25] — Veteran Deportation Hoax Testimony Exposed
• [42:47] — Debunking the Sejun Park “Deportation”
• [48:40] — Trump’s Reaction to Indiana Senate Redistricting Failure
• [54:13] — Chris Garten’s Redistricting Floor Speech
• [65:55] — Kurt Schlichter Interview: GOP Inaction & Solutions

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Tone and Style

The tone is fiercely confrontational, sardonic, and unapologetically pro-conservative. Tony Kennett blends humor (“Get out there and just start making accusations as though you’re some grand Braveheart hero”), civics education, and direct calls for Republican accountability. Producer Nick supplies sarcastic asides and audience-reinforcing points. Guest Kurt Schlichter adds extra bite and dark humor to his critique of GOP inertia.

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Summary Takeaways

• The failed Indiana redistricting vote unveils intra-GOP conflict, shallow defenses for inaction, and national implications for congressional maps.
• The pending expiration of Obamacare subsidies sparked open Senate brawling, with Republicans actually pitching substantive alternatives for the first time in years—though ultimately blocked, revealing the calcified dysfunction of health care politics.
• Congressional “veteran deportation” sob stories were decisively debunked live, exposing media and Democratic misdirection.
• Tony and guests insist that the redistricting fight is not about “fairness” but about matching blue-state ruthlessness, and that only primary pressure and organized outrage within the party will spur real change.
• The episode ends with a call for renewed Republican engagement at the local and state level, emphasizing that the only true momentum comes not from outrage alone, but from action.

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Transcript

[Tony Kennett]

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[Guest/Interviewer 1]

Tony Kennett.

[Tony Kennett]

Tony Kennett. Tony Kennett.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

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[Tony Kennett]

Tony Kennett, host of the Tony Kennett cast. Let's get down to business. You're listening to the Tony Kennett cast.

[Senator Rick Scott]

On 93 WIBC on CYTV here on the Daily Signal.

[Tony Kennett]

Welcome to the Tony Kennett cast here on the Daily Signal, nationally syndicated, first on 93 WIBC. I'll admit it's a little awkward when the entire country is focusing on your state in a huge political mismatch, fist fight, boxing, fricassee. It is exhausting. It's strange. And while we here at the Daily Signal are out of Washington, D.C. our studio is here in beautiful Indiana. And with that, we must report, of course, that the Indiana redistricting measure, which would have made the current 7, 2 map more likely to be a 9, 0 map. Yes, more likely because no election is set in stone. And when you redistrict a state, those votes don't just disappear into the abyss, they do go somewhere. Would have made a nine zero map more likely moderating a lot of the harder Republican districts. The Trump administration was pushing for that particular map ahead of the 2026 midterm elections and it ended up failing. 19 votes in favor, 31 votes against, no one abstaining the vote. Indiana has a 40 seat Republican super majority in the state Senate. So, alas, what we see right now is going to make a huge impact in the next couple of years. And I'm going to make a case you may not like. The case that I'm about to make. This vote this evening is, in fact, in the long term, in the long haul, a very good thing. Now, am I pleased with how the vote ended up turning out? Absolutely not. I argued in favor of redistricting and we will talk about this later. But right now, Republicans are paying attention. Voters around the country are paying attention to who is moving forward and accomplishing things for the American people and who is essentially sitting around grumbling and mumbling. We're going to talk about that a little bit later. But before we do, we have to talk about the upcoming freight train that is, in fact going to take out people's kneecaps. This would be the Obamacare subsidies, the Affordable Care act subsidies expiring, which means that insurance premiums are about to go up because the government's been throwing money at insurance companies for decades. They've been throwing money at the insurance companies since the Obama administration said, oh, directly funding insurance companies. What could go wrong? And this has created a huge problem. So before we get to Indiana redistricting, which we will cover later in the show, we, we have to head on to telling you, you are standing on the train tracks. There is a major train heading for you right now and it is the end of these Obamacare subsidies. Now here's why this matters, Tony. I'm not on Obamacare. Why does this matter to me? Well, Elisa Slotkin, Democrat of Michigan, the lady they propped up trotted out after Trump's State of the Union style speech. She has come forward like a lot of Democrats saying Obamacare, that Republican bill, which is interesting. How could they, how could they just throw this away? It's terrible. These evil Republicans are going to kill poor people. Never heard this one before. Here's Elisa Slotkin trying this line today. This whole thing kicked off because of the big beautiful Bill signed on July 4th. That's why we're having this conversation. So the very people who yanked those credits away were not interested in giving them back. And she is one of the people who yanked the credits away, first of all. So even among a lot of senators out there who are trying to do a lot of pearl clutching and crying over the Obamacare subsidies expiring, she is one of the people who is in fact to blame here. As several pointed out all over various media enterprises today, it is Elisa Slotkin, one of the Democrats who have allowed these subsidies. They skyrocketed and gave insurance companies the Runway to ratchet up the prices to then turn around and yank the rug out from under them. So fine, you don't want to do that. Let's talk about 12 different other ways we can reimagine this system. And I'm, you know, this week, next week, the first week we're back after the holidays, like I will sit with anyone because this I think is one of the existential issues of our time. This whole here is what the biggest, craziest, just straight, flat out lie is going to be. We want to negotiate. There are 12 different ways out of this. I'm open to hearing any of them. She's lying, first of all, what you know she's lying about. You and I both know Democrats want single payer healthcare funded by the government. They want state funded healthcare for everyone. They want a uniform, singular choice that mimics the United Kingdom and the Canadian model. That is what they want. However, not only is she lying about that again, we know the DNC's policies on what it is they want healthcare to look at. They're not actually willing to sit down and talk about other various things. And. Well, I'll show you the proof in the pudding. Why here? In a second. The dirty little secret. The dirty little secret that we found today from a Democrat National Committee resolution committee meeting, a lot of committees going on. The Democrats have unanimously passed a resolution today saying that Democrats should refuse to negotiate with Republicans at all on health care. Don't take my word for it. Here's the clip from the DNC Committee today.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

And this resolution just reminds those that this is something that should not be negotiated. Yes, politics. And there are some areas where we can talk around it, talk through it, negotiate. But this is one area that should not be negotiated. This is like negotiating with someone of how much air they breathe in.

[Tony Kennett]

So they make this entire big committee resolution. They are not. So Elise is saying, well, come on, just sit down and talk to me. They're not going to do any talking at all. You and I both know this producer Nick.

[Producer Nick]

In reality, this really is just them getting the gall, the boldness to put into actual words the history, the pattern that they followed before. You know, they're making it systemic rather than just around Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer, where they'd go and say, if Donald Trump's serious about this government shutdown ending, he needs to meet with us and speak.

[Tony Kennett]

Which just means Hakeem Jeffries do everything that I want.

[Producer Nick]

Yeah, Hakeem Jeffries having people come to him, trying to find ways to talk it out and find solutions, and then him going, did your boss allow you to come here and speak to me? How dare you.

[Tony Kennett]

So this is one of the things that I want to hit because it really is a crazy thing right now. A lot of people have pointed out why. Again, why does this matter? I'm not on Obamacare. This is a major government spending program. What's the deal? The deal is that for a long time, Republicans have just said, well, we'll just keep funding it, you know, just kind of keep kicking the can down the road. Another extension. That's what son Senator John Fetterman of Pennsylvania suggested today on the Democrat side just funded another year. Kick the can down the road. We are at $38 trillion in debt. It is climbing. It is hurting the United States how much we are spending on these entitlement programs. During the Biden Covid years, they threw money hand over fist to the Obamacare scheme, which collapsed the entire Medicare, Medicaid medical system in its entirety here in the United States. Premiums went up from like 500 to $1,000 to 4,000, 5,000, $6,000 in insurance premiums. Brandon Gill, who we just had on the show from Texas, was outlining this in Congress with one of the original authors of Obamacare.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

Obamacare was sold to the American people.

[Tony Kennett]

As a program that would drive down premiums. I think the number that was thrown out by President Obama at the time was $2,500.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

His has that promise come to fruition? No, it has not, Congressman. And premiums on individual health insurance policies, on the marketplaces and the exchanges more than doubled in the law's first four years. And that's primarily because of the regulatory mandates that the law imposed. And prices have continued, premiums have continued to increase substantially and they continue to increase substantially, more so on the exchanges than for employer sponsored coverage. So you would say that Obamacare didn't.

[Tony Kennett]

Slow the growth of premiums in any meaningful way?

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

I think, if anything, quite the contrary. I mean, Senator Welch, I believe last month admitted on the Senate floor that the law failed to reduce costs. But more than that, I think it's accelerated the cost growth because of the consolidation that has come about in terms of hospital mergers, insurers buying PBMs.

[Tony Kennett]

Now this is a huge problem for not just Republicans, but for the American people because once you have people on the program, on the policy, then it's really insanely difficult to get them off of it. And for a long time Republicans, and you can thank Late Senator John McCain for this. When Trump came in the first time in 2016 and tried finally Republicans were going to remove Obamacares is what they ran on. He was the poison pill vote that killed reforming the Obamacare system. And ever since then, it's just been kicking the can down the road because Republicans didn't have the votes or the momentum to get it over that 60 vote threshold. Now Republicans are pushing for possibly nuking the filibuster and shoving this thing through anyway, which is a bold move. But in the middle of those interesting moves came three proposals. There are now three actual genuine on the ground, honest to God plans that are real, that are tangible, that are in people's hands. We're gonna talk about that on the live stream and then we're gonna bring back one of those particular planners, Senator Rick Scott of Florida and his proposal. We're gonna talk about it here on the show. It's also one of the only proposals that didn't get killed today. Radio crew will see you in a second. It's the Tony Kinnit cast here on the Daily Signal now over on the Livestream side of things. There's a few proposals that Republicans have put forward. There was this Senator Crapo, which is just a heck of a name, Republican senator from Idaho, along with Senator Cassidy, who put forward a proposal that would extend some of the Obamacare subsidies, sort of, and then at the same time put some investment into the HSAs Health Savings Accounts. In essence, you have a card. This card is a small bank account savings account for money for health care expenditures. Essentially, it's Dave Ramsey's daydream. And then you take that HSA and your employer puts money into it. You put money into it. If you're on a Medicare or Medicaid system, the government would then put a small amount of money into it. If you're below the income threshold, you would then take that card and you would shop around and pay for the medical services you wanted. And it kneecaps a lot of insurance companies. Instead of doing big risk management. You pay as the services are needed and it drives down costs. So the first measure that was brought forward, Senator John Thune suggested that he was really interested in hearing any of these proposals, whether it was the Senator Rand Paul, Cassidy and Crapo approach. Paul got mad and ended up voting against it today, which is funny and ironic. You have a Senator Rick Scott proposal and then you have one from Senator Ted Cruz's office in Texas. Here's Senate Majority Leader John Thune explaining today that, look, we're pitching ideas, we're here to go. Are Democrats actually gonna sit down at the table and do this negotiating they've been talking about?

[Senator Rick Scott]

We need to make sure that the Republicans are putting out there what it.

[Tony Kennett]

Is that we are for.

[Senator Rick Scott]

And we are for putting more money in the pockets of the American people so they can make their decisions about their health care coverage instead of giving it to the insurance companies paid for by the taxpayers with no income limits. So people five to make $500,000 $600,000 a year having their health insurance subsidized by people who are making 40 or $50,000 a year. That's what the Democrat proposal does. And there are zero dollar premiums. A lot of people have no idea they're even covered. So the insurance companies ought to enroll them because they're incentivized to do that.

[Tony Kennett]

So Thune gets out there and he says, here's the issue. People are scamming the system. There's tons of fraud. We of course talked about this with a Mike Johnson clip on a study on Top news in 10 this morning. Yesterday, we of course showed the study that was shown to Representative Tim, who calls himself Sarah Miller from Delaware. There's quite a bit in this.

[Producer Nick]

Producer NICK I find it funny that both sides are concerned with improper usage of the Obamacare subsidies. But on the left, their concern is the rich taking out money from the poor when the money's distributed. But Republicans are looking at it and going, how many thousands of people need to be fraudulently pulling money out of this program before we start adding restrictions so that the fraudulent cases can be.

[Tony Kennett]

Removed, like work limits on. On things like on welfare and snap benefits and things like that. Or just simple, your nationality, your state needs to report this particular information so that we can keep it out of fraud. Now, this is the point that matters to voters for the first time. And I'm really not messing around. I'm not trying to just yank a guy's chain. We really do have Rick Scott here in a second with one of these three proposals to see Republicans actually saying, here's the idea, voters, here's what we need to do. Here's the plan. That's not normal. That's not normal. Republicans don't do that. We gripe about the other party, then they gripe about us. We say lower taxes and then we end up voting for higher spending. Anyway, Democrats say higher spending and also take away all your rights. And then that's like, you know, you're either choosing between having a cold or botulism. But for, again, one of the first times Republicans are saying, what if we actually took the plan and we put it on paper and then we passed that piece of paper, then it forces the Democrats to say no, uh, again, it is. J. Rod puts it in the, in the comments that it's Lucy with the football, although he's using it for a different example here. Force the Democrats to explain why they're yanking the football out for American people and not getting to 60. Now, unfortunately, today, one of those three options did fail because Republicans passed it. Democrats did not.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

On this, on this vote. On this vote, The A's are 51, the nays are 48. Three fifths of the Senate's daily. I can't read that.

[Tony Kennett]

I didn't. I'm sorry, everyone did not.

[Producer Nick]

I did not preface that video, Tony. So he didn't realize that that was going to happen.

[Tony Kennett]

Producer Nick does a lot of some of the clip collection. Just because we're growing, there's so much to cover. I wasn't aware that again, senators and Representatives are again, just people like you and me. And it is really funny to watch people stumble through, but the vote didn't pass. Rand Paul was just mad. He just said debt over and over but again didn't provide something special. We got to bring the Raider crew back. Let's give you a proposal that actually can work. Let's talk to Rick Scott here in a second. We're going to bring the radio crew back from commercial. It's the Tony Kinnit cast here on the Daily Signal.

[Producer Nick]

Foreign.

[Tony Kennett]

You'Re listening to the Tony Kenneth cast on 93 WIBC. Well, we've played the clips. The Obamacare subsidization model is an abysmal disaster. More holes in it than a block of Swiss cheese. And so believe it or not, Republican senators are now putting forward some alternatives to just putting that program on life support for eternity. One of those, of course, that we're talking to is Senator Rick Scott of Florida. Appreciate it. We know that you are working on a pretty interesting alternative here, the more Affordable Care act with Representative Pfluger. Tell us a little bit about kind of the how things are on the ground right there now. Cause it sounds really aggressive from the rest of the country.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Well, here's what's so basic about this. We all want people get health care. Right? We should at least. Right. And we know we need to have safety nets for the people can't afford it. Now why it's important to me is I grew up in a family that struggled. My mom struggled to put food on the table when my brother had a significant disease. She couldn't find a doctor or hospital take care of him in her hometown. We had to go four hours away to a charity hospital. So this hits home to me, right? And it's frustrating because Obamacare has been a absolute disaster. I actually, back in 2009, I organized a group called Conservatives or Patients Rights to, you know, to try to stop it. So think about the lies, complete lies.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

It will actually reduce the deficit by $4 trillion over the long term. Reducing the waste and inefficiency in Medicare and Medicaid will pay for most of this plan. It will slow the growth of health care costs for our families, our businesses and our government. There will be a provision in this plan that requires us to come forward with more spending cuts if the savings we promised don't materialize.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Since since then, costs have skyrocketed. You know, when you, if you go back to when this passed, Tony, when you go back, a high deductible plan was $3,000. Now it's 6,500 10,000, $15,000. So I've got a bill that's going to address the root problem here and it's called a More Afford Act. It's been endorsed by the Republican Study Committee in the House with Congressman Pfluger. It's real simple. Number one, why take. Let's think of how we do food stamps. Well, we want to make sure people have access to food. So we have a food stamp program. My family could have used it growing up, didn't have it back then. But we don't say, oh, here we're going to give the money to the grocery store chain and they're going to decide what groceries you get. We don't do that, do we? We give it into a card and we say you can go shop for services in health care. We do the opposite. We give you an insurance card, but we say we're going to let government decide what health care you get or let the insurance company. So as a result, the person that's the buyer, the person that has the needs, the person that's supposedly getting the benefit, they don't have a choice. They're stuck with this doctor group or this physician group or this insurance company. So why don't we, why don't we do the logical thing? And this is President Trump, what he wants to do, stop giving the money to insurance companies and give it to the individual. So let's go back to the original Obamacare, right, and say we're going to cover those people, we're going to give it to you in cash and you can only take that cash in a card and use it for health care.

[Tony Kennett]

One of the questions that American voters are likely to have based on this kind of a system because again, this makes far more sense than just throwing money at the seller and then telling the buyers that, you know, they have to return or that they're eternally dependent on the system. One of the issues that a lot of voters have on the other side with SNAP benefits though is what we have seen is the rampant amount of fraud. Fraud plots that have stolen $1 billion.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

To north of 100 million million in just a few years, could be higher than $8 billion.

[Tony Kennett]

That has come out of places like these states that are refusing to give their data on the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. Are there any measures innately that your bill introduces that is going to work against the fraud that, you know, someone waltzing out and buying something that's not healthcare related at all, but they're going to pass it off as a health care purchase?

[Senator Rick Scott]

Well, the first thing. And if you if you look at Obamacare, you could argue about what percentage somebody has to pay, but they do have to have skin in the game. They do have to pay. Now, under the body coven Covid subsidies, nobody had any money up. And so what was good, what's been going on is that if you knew somebody's name, birth date and zip, an address, you go sign them up for this Covid Biden subsidy. So guess what? There's 4 to 6 million people that were signed up, and guess what? They didn't even know they were signed up. Money went directly to the insurance company. So this rogue agent that might work for the insurance company or might be on their own, they get paid, the insurance company gets paid, the federal government loses money, and nobody gets health care.

[Tony Kennett]

That's wild.

[Senator Rick Scott]

You've got to have. People have to have. Now, number one is they have to pay a portion of it. All right?

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

Something.

[Senator Rick Scott]

You got to have skin in the game. And if you go back to the original Obamacare subsidies, they did, so we need to do that. That's number one. Number two is, is you've got to. You've got to verify who people are, and you got to verify their dependence. I did this when I was governor of Florida. But the federal government, they're okay with the fraud so far, so absolutely, you have to crack down on the fraud.

[Tony Kennett]

Where did you land when writing this bill, when you and Fleur were putting this together to actually get that crafted? What kind of percentages are we seeing here? Not to get too into the nitty gritty. I'm just curious about that because that's not something that the Obamacare and the Biden Covid subsidies really had outlined. And so it was very easy, like you said, to check in people for this insurance fraud as well.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Well, I think, I think the way we just start is I don't believe we should extend the Biden Covid subsidies at all, period.

[Tony Kennett]

Crazy concept.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Because think about what they're saying is. So let's say I have in Florida, I have somebody making 20 bucks an hour working their butt off, right? Some of their tax dollars are going to go subsidize somebody making $250,000 a year that could be worth a million dollars. So that doesn't make a lot of sense. Right, Right. So. So I think those ought to go away. And then what we ought to look at is we ought to. We go back to the old. The original Obamacare which had requirement of you had to pay a portion of your premiums. And so what we should be Doing there is say, okay, so let's investigate say, okay, what is the logical percentages that people can afford but they also don't. There's no fraud involved. And so but one thing that's frustrating about the federal government is they don't want to go back and study things.

[Tony Kennett]

Well, no, it's a lot of work that, that takes time away from my wonderful little trips to do whatever it is I want. Don't you know. Right.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Yeah, yeah, you love this. When I became governor of Florida, I went to the, you know, my whole campaign in 2010 was about jobs.

[Tony Kennett]

Right.

[Senator Rick Scott]

And I went to the agency does unemployment and they told me they're they had to be open on Saturdays because unemployed Floridians didn't have have enough time to apply for unemployment during the week.

[Tony Kennett]

Unemployed Floridians didn't have enough time during the week to apply for unemployment.

[Senator Rick Scott]

We had to open our value.

[Tony Kennett]

It really is the same across the board. Well, hey, Senator Rick Scott, thank you so much. I appreciate your giving us a little bit of the time. The more Affordable Healthcare act, we'll be keeping an eye on that as well. We'll take a link to your office statement on that down in the description below. And thanks again.

[Senator Rick Scott]

All right, take care.

[Tony Kennett]

All right, this is where the rubber unfortunately doesn't meet the road. It just drives off into the ditch and starts burning. Because in realism, are we actually going to see Republicans measure like Rick Scott's proposal here or Ted Cruz proposal here actually drive forward with a pretty succinct power packed victory and a major success? No, I don't think so. And the reason is not because finally we can say, well, Republicans haven't pitched an idea. You know, Trump said during the campaign concepts of a plan. If Democrats won't bring it to cloture, it will hang around their necks. And that might drive the Supreme Court of the United States to recognize a couple of these fraud cases. Roberts has been itching to overturn that vote that he screwed up back in the early 2010s. But we'll get to that radio crew. We got to send you over to the commercial because there's a big scandal coming out of the House and the Senate. It's the Tony Kenned cast live stream crew. Don't you go anywhere. And I say don't you go anywhere to the livestream crew. Because we do stay and instead of doing commercials, we do a little bit more show. The Democrats on the meantime side of things held a hearing with the House on a well on the horrible Double shooting of the two National Guardsmen from West Virginia. And some of the things that were brought up were truly despicable and disgusting. First of all, a comment from Democrat Representative Benny G. Thompson of Mississippi. His comment about the, again, the overt act of terrorism and murder of two National Guardsmen is just some truly sick, sick stuff. Here was that comment today.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

Madam Secretary, you and the gentleman from CT NCTC reference the unfortunate accident that occurred with the National Guardsman.

[Tony Kennett]

Unfortunate accident? Shot at point blank range, wrestled a firearm away from a National Guardswoman and then shot her in the head. Just an accident. Could happen to anybody. You might trip and fall and do the same thing and kill. You think that was an unfortunate accident?

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

I mean it was a terrorist. Wait, wait, look, I'll get it straight. Then you can.

[Senator Rick Scott]

He shot our National Guard.

[Tony Kennett]

He's reading a pre prepared statement. What do you mean he's like reading the notes. He's like, I'll get it straight. Why don't you walk into the room with it straight, Chief, Look, I'll get it straight.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

Then you can.

[Tony Kennett]

He shot our National Guardsman in the head.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

Look, Ms. Chairman, will you direct the witness to allow me to ask my question.

[Producer Nick]

Why did somebody stop this woman from being mean to me?

[Tony Kennett]

Will you, Mr. Chairman, will you ax this woman? I, I'm. I'm sorry, excuse me, representative from Mississippi. How about you don't be a big bag of dirt. Just, just pro tips for everybody.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

It was an unfortunate situation.

[Tony Kennett]

By the way, the, the proper response from the chairman is no. And you are a dork and a clown. Just in case you were wondering, in case you're ever in the same situation.

[Producer Nick]

The lack of humility defined, the deference to like recuse yourself and correct your statement.

[Tony Kennett]

Great example, great example. Yesterday I started off the show. I had made it sound as though a car accident in which a car swiped an officer who was standing on the side of the road had happened yesterday. It had happened on December 1. I made it sound. And how I was framing it as though it happened yesterday. It happened on December 1st. And so I'm making it very clear that it happened on December 1st. See, easy to do now if everyone leaves and is like that. Tony, I can't believe he just admitted.

[Producer Nick]

Well, you're not a senator so you know you have to do it.

[Tony Kennett]

Not a senator yet, but we'll get to that. On to Representative Julie Johnson again. They dragged Kristi Noem there and I know that you know Cherie Tanadar and his big fake wig. He's all Mad. Anyway. But I want you to hear what Representative Julie Johnson brought to the table.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

Again.

[Tony Kennett]

I've never really heard of any of these people. You haven't either. But it's just a reminder that you too can elect some random person to the House to humiliate your state in front of the nation. You can't just snatch somebody walking into a coffee shop. Yes, you can. You absolutely can. You can snatch somebody walking in anywhere at any time. It's not medieval Europe and you yell sanctuary. Sanctuary. That's not how that functions. Just snatch somebody walking into a coffee shop because of the color of their skin. Who's doing that?

[Producer Nick]

Me, when I'm 12 years old playing freeze tag and I touch the flagpole that's supposed to be the safe space.

[Tony Kennett]

You can't get me. I'm on base. I invoked the constitutional clause of olliolly oxen free. There's no probable cause for that. And also that you will get due process and that is not happening again. Due process just means it's not a Latin term under like legal stature here. It just means what you're given under the law. If you're an illegal immigrant, you're here illegally and you have a removal order especially which we're going to get to. Yeah, they can pick you up anywhere. They can pick you up on the can. I don't know what the. Go ahead.

[Producer Nick]

Something even more surprising. Being detained is a part of the.

[Tony Kennett]

Process that you are not being summarily executed there on the street. And so what you're seeing is an overwhelming frustration. We got to swing back and pick up the radio crew. We'll come back to this in a second because this is just dorky beyond all belief. It's the Tony Kenned cast. This is the Tony Kennett cast on 93 WYBC. We give some basic advice here on the Tony Kennett cast. Some basic advice. Basic advice. Number one, if you are going to stand against a bill, have a good reason for standing against a bill. Right now you're seeing the Democrats no reason at all to stand. Stand against the alternative options for the Obamacare subsidization completely failing that Republicans are pitching. You saw a bunch of Indiana Republicans who had no good reason at all for not redistricting. They texted my grandson, as my former state senator whom I paged for once upon a time, Gene Lysing said, but we'll get to that. Another great piece of advice that I give to you guys, you know, alongside don't commit obvious fraud on paper is if you're Going to hold a hearing in front of the country. You have the opportunity to prepare for said hearing. Don't get in front of the cameras on C span 1, C span 2, C span 3, ESPN8, the Ocho Corn Cobb TV. When you're getting on the exciting networks covering hearings, don't just get out there and say stupid. Whatever comes to your mind. Don't get out there and just start making accusations as though you're some grand Braveheart hero. You're out there. Freedom and. Stop it. Stop it. Again, case in point. We were playing this for the live stream crew, but her comments are so awful, they deserve to be played again. Representative Julie Johnson. What state is she from? I have no idea where this. This classic Karen that looks like she rolled out of an ice cream van came from, but here she is again. You can't just snatch somebody walking into a coffee shop because of the color of their skin. There's no probable cause for that. And also that you will get due process. And that is not happening. It is. And so what is you're seeing is an overwhelming frustration. Oh, that's why the officers were shot. That's what she's referencing, by the way. That's why the two National Guardsmen were shot by the Afghani migrant, because people are frustrated. Oh, that gives you an excuse to get out there and stab and kill and murder and commit acts of terror. If you're frustrated, you can burn down half of Minneapolis because some guy OD'd on fentanyl and you're like, oh, his knee was on his neck. Oh, just the same, they're frustrated. Wow. I noticed they don't exactly have that excuse for January 6th, by the way, but I'll let her continue. She. She's got some. Well, they're not good points. She's got some points rolling here. The American people in this country, that the lack of respect and regard for the rule of law by this administration and in particular by the. By this secretary she's talking about, Christine Ohm is at a level that we have never seen and violates all of the constitutional norms and all of the. Okay, so she starts getting hysterical. Uh, so she's. So the three main things. It's unprecedented. Ooh, everything's unprecedented. Number two, it violates all of the constitutional norms. I won't list any of them, but it violates it somehow. And then number three, she just starts hiccuping like Dopey the Dwarf sucking down soap and bubbles. So I'm afraid not there, Chief. But I do have to Ask a question to the state of Texas. Now, again, I'm here in Indiana. We have very little room to talk about people that we send to Congress. Andre Carson is a big clown that will continue to get to go to Congress, unfortunately. But why is it that red states send the most unintelligent blue representatives from their cities? Have you ever noticed that? We've got representative, soon to be failed senatorial candidate Jasmine Crockett. Of course you have this amazing Representative, Julie Johnson, also from Texas. And then of course, who. How could we list a state of really dumb Democrats that a red state sends to Congress without talking about Al Green? That's right, boys, girls and squirrels. Al Green is in fact once again going to the dais, going to the podium and going, I want Trump impeached for dastardly deeds done and dastardly deeds undone. Al Green went again again to the speaker podium or the little tiny discount podium in the House today and once again called for Trump to be impeached just for, for whatever. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker. And still I rise to announce that last night he says, still I rise because this man drops more, more, more, more, more, more impeachments, yelling speeches, cane shaking, good times than any representative I've ever seen. I called for the impeachment of Donald John Trump, President of the United States of America, for threatening judges and for calling for the execution of members of Congress if ever there was a person who ought to be impeached as Donald John Trump. Now there are many people who don't want to see this happen. Yeah. And we're going to find out with a vote here in a second. You don't want to vote for impeachment? Well, there were people who didn't want to cross the Edmund Pettus Bridge, but they marched on. I shall march on. I've been told that this vote will take place sometime after 1:30 today. I assure you I'll be here for that vote. Well, everyone's like, we just like shut up and sit down, dude. I'll be here, I'll be there. I'll be at the local subway ordering a foot long. I'm here. I will also speak on Friday for about one hour after about 11 o'. Clock. If anyone wants to have lunch with me at the local Chinese buffet, I sit at table 22. I will explain more about it at that time. This president is a reckless, ruling, ruthless, lawless person who doesn't deserve the title of President of the United States of America. I yield back. He snatched my mad libs and he wrote in them, I'm mad.

[Producer Nick]

I only can speak for an hour cuz after that I'll need a nap and some fiber lax with my pudding.

[Tony Kennett]

Now maybe you're wondering, well, how did this particular vote go? Well, I'll show you. Dear listener and viewer, the vote failed.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

The yeas are 237, the nays are 140, and there are 47 voting present. The motion is adopted. Without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table.

[Tony Kennett]

Yep. Congratulations. Vote fails. Yippee. Congratulations to Al Green and yet another impressive attempt. Now, believe it or not, putting the Texas representatives aside, there are a few really awful things happening today that are going undercovered because of the big news about Obamacare which we talked about, and the Indiana stuff, which is yet to come. Kristi Noem was dragged before the House today and we saw a couple of things. First of all, we saw Sri Tanadar, who has now filed every impeachment proceeding that Al Green has not filed. And then that one lady from Michigan that no one's heard of. No, not Elisa Slok in the other one Sri Tanadar with his discount auto salesman wig has called for. So he today is like, I'm going to impeach you. Resign. I don't like you. And it doesn't go the way that he wants. This is from the hearing today. It is a fact that you ignored federal court orders in March and in May of this year. 30 days hath September, April, June and November. Do you plan on ignoring more federal orders? We always seek a few lies and the I love it. Asking a question in a hearing means that the the person who has been called to the hearing, the witness is entitled to answer. That is the both the committee rules state in this and every other committee in the House and in the Senate. So that's a little number one. Number two, leading questions. You guys know I despise leading questions. How long ago did you stop beating your wife? No, no, that's not how that works. American people demand the truth. Because you keep saying it doesn't make it true. I am sick of your lies. The American people are sick of these lies. American people demand truth. America is very happy that finally they have a president in the White House that gets up every day to keep them safe. Madam Secretary, your incompetence and your inability to truthfully carry out your duties of Secretary of Homeland Security. If you're not fired, will you resign? Sir, I will consider your asking me to resign as an endorsement of my work. Thank you very much. He was so confused. He's like, what? That's not what I said. I said, you leave. Why don't you leave? She's like, you're an embarrassment. And we make fun of your videos at the office and know how to take that. Now, that's not the big thing from that particular hearing. That's just something that was. Was interesting. The Democrats brought two big gotcha moments to the hearing. This is now the strategy. So George Reets was brought forward in, like, the initial testimony time, because the Republicans get to invite people, the Democrats get to invite people. You go, you sit before Congress, you kiss your schmooze, you go home, everyone's happy. You get a little open testimony time. And one guy gets up and says, I am a veteran. And they arrested me and I was detained. I had no idea what was going on. Because the thing the Democrats are trying to say is that Trump is out there arresting and deporting veterans. Decorated, beautiful American people. I can't believe they're doing this for nothing. For being brown and no. Anyway, here's this testimony today. Here's this, the first of their two big gotchas.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

I identified myself as a US Citizen and a veteran, but that didn't matter. Agent smashed my window, sprayed tear gas and pepper spray into my car, dragged me out. I was choking on gas, unable to breathe.

[Tony Kennett]

While, by the way, the choking on gas, unable to breathe thing is funny as a veteran, again, because you should have already gone through the whole tear gas thing. That's not important. We'll get to why this is interesting here in a second. We'll let him finish his dear sweet sob story. I was just driving along, minding my own business when. When, you know, smash, bam, alakazam. No.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

Officers shouted conflicting commands even after I complied. I was taken to a detention center and held for three days without charges. No phone call, no lawyer, no medical care. Even though my skin burned from the chemicals, my family had no idea where I was. I was released without explanation and without a single charge.

[Tony Kennett]

Wow, that sounds really terrible. I can't believe they just. Oh, wait a minute. Hang on a mixed second here. Uh, in fact, this George Reits. Yeah, he was one of the guys that was a soldier or a armed hired security. I should say hired security for the child labor marijuana farm in California. This man was driving to the pot farm where children illegally were being used in slave labor as an overseer for the pot farm. We got to bring the radio crew off to commercial. Sorry, you guys have to head away before you come back. One More time, we'll talk about the Indiana stuff. We'll continue on the live stream. It's the Tony Kinnit cast.

[Producer Nick]

The media ran with this guy's lies that became so prevalent that the DHS actually put out a news coverage review on their website, the government website where they directly responded to his claims. Would you like to hear the excerpt of what he was actually arrested for?

[Tony Kennett]

Yeah, yeah, please. By all means.

[Producer Nick]

He, quote, became violent and refused to comply with law enforcement. He challenged agents and blocked their route by refusing to move his vehicle out of the road. CBP arrested Reedy's for assault.

[Tony Kennett]

Wow. So it sounds like they gave him very specific crimes. And then they arrested him for also being in an area for working at the marijuana pot farm. In addition, excellent stuff. I'm thrilled every time I see one of these things. There's just more excellent stuff. The big gotcha of the day, though, the biggest one comes from Representative Seth Magaziner of Rhode Island. I didn't know the state was big enough to have its own representative. That's exciting stuff. And this is the biggest, most shocking gotcha ever of all. Forever. It's like millions of views on YouTube. Check it out. This may be the walls closing, and it's not, but here you go. Barry, how many United States military veterans have you deported? Sir, we have not deported U.S. citizens or military veterans. I don't believe you've served in the military. I haven't either. But I think you and I can agree that as Americans, we owe everything to those who have served our country in uniform, particularly those who have served in combat. Do you agree with that? Sir, I believe that people that are in this United States, that are citizens, have legal status here.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

Those.

[Tony Kennett]

Madam Secretary, we are joined on Zoo Zoom by a gentleman named Sejun Park. He is a United States army combat veteran who was shot twice while serving our country in Panama in 1989. Like many veterans, he struggled with PTSD and substance abuse after his service. He was arrested in the 1990s for some minor drug offenses. Nothing. They're not minor, but there should be a little red flag there for you. Serious. He never hurt anyone besides himself, and he's been clean and sober for 14 years. He is a combat veteran, a Purple Heart recipient. He has sacrificed more for this country than most people ever have. Earlier this year, you deported him to Korea, a country he hasn't lived in since he was seven years old. Will you join me in thanking Mr. Park for his service to our country? Sir, I'm grateful for every single person that has served our country and follows our laws. Can you please tell Mr. Park why you deported him? Every one them of there it is. Can you please tell us why you deported this brave veteran of the United States of America? And everyone went and the pearls got clutched. My stars. Oh, wow. Incredible. Big. Shocking. Breaking.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

Huge.

[Tony Kennett]

Gotcha. Yeah. There's a problem. First of all, Sejun park, the guy in the video, was not deported by the Department of Homeland Security. He self deported back to Korea. He had his green card revoked and was given a removal order in 2009. President of the United States in 2009. That'd be Barack Obama and his Department of Homeland Security after spending three years in jail for felony drug possession and bail jumping. He also spent five decades in America on a green card, never chose to pursue citizenship. So she didn't deport him. Number two, the gotcha's nothing. These are the kinds of things they're rolling out now. Alas. Last but not least, I do enjoy that one of the comments is very offended that I said that Rhode island isn't big enough to have a representative. It's like Rhode Island's got two representatives, you big dumb idiot. And the idea that I have annoyed someone from the county that thinks they're a state gives me the giggles. So thanks for tuning in.

[Producer Nick]

I'm gonna go get a bucket and shovel and then head over there and dig up a bucket full so that they lose one.

[Tony Kennett]

Yeah, you bring back a bucket full of dirt, they'll lose an electoral college vote there. All right, we have to bring the radio crew back one more time. We're going to talk about this Indiana redistricting stuff. Some new developments don't go anywhere. It's the Tony Kinnit cast here on the Daily Signal. This is the Tony Kennett cast on 93 WYPC. All right, welcome back to the Tony Kennett cast here on on the Daily Signal. Let's talk for just a couple of minutes about some of the bigger news of the day. The biggest story being that the Indiana redistricting campaign in which the Indiana House and the Indiana Senate at the prompting and suggestion from the White House was to create a new districting map that instead of the currently gerrymandered map of Indiana that gives Andre Carson and then of course, Indiana's first up near Gary, their own districts again, Indianapolis being a currently a racially gerrymandered district. Instead of doing that, the Indiana state legislature under its state and federal constitutional authority, would redistrict the map so that it would moderate or add some blue to the red districts around Indianapolis and cease allowing Indianapolis itself to be a racially gerrymandered district. It would be closer to a 9, 0 map. And immediately things caught on fire here in the state. Now, again, this is a national show. We normally don't focus on a lot of issues inside Indiana, but this is a national issue because there was a whole lot of pearl clutching that came out and suggested that we couldn't possibly do anything, just gerrymandering. That's very, very bad, very, very terrible stuff. And I heard a lot of arguments. I heard arguments for redistricting the state and I heard a lot of arguments against redistricting the state. Some good arguments for redistricting the state, some bad arguments for redistricting the state. I did not at any time hear a single argument of any kind as to why Indiana should not be redistricted. Not a single one. Every single person who voted against redistricting had a completely different argument for redistricting. But I'm getting a little bit ahead of myself here. The measure failed 19 to 31. Now Indiana has a 40 seat Republican super majority in a 50 seat Senate. So why did this vote fail? The reason the vote failed is because there were a group of individuals who are more moderate Republicans who decided that after passing no legislation really of any kind, after essentially most of these individuals are career state senators. They have been in the state Senate for a very, very, very long time. They just decided no because they didn't want to get called about it. Now we'll talk about that with Kurt Schlichter from Townhall.com in a couple of minutes. These people want the job to be fun for them. And what we saw through the entire process was outside of the country and also in Indiana, a lot of people pushing for the state to be redistricted. And then we saw a group of people that suggested really bizarre out there theories and reasons as to why they would not be voting in favor of redistricting in the Senate. So first and foremost, you had senator, state Senator Mike Bohakek, who claimed that because Donald Trump, the President of the United States, called Tim Walls, the governor of Minnesota, seriously retarded that he, who has a daughter with down syndrome, whose sister, by the way, is currently trying to get custody of her. It's a huge mess. That's why he wasn't going to vote for this completely unrelated redistricting plan. If you're someone who first of all is bringing that level of personal nonsense into a bill that affects people in the state, that you are representing. You're a clown to begin with. Number two, I hate to tell you this, but on the actual scale of classic understanding and education, as a former teacher, those who were classically considered mentally retarded and those who have down syndrome are not the same. So you're going to posture at least. Don't be stupid. Senator Jean Lysing, who I used to be a page for when I was in high school. She used to be my state senator out in eastern central Indiana. Her entire argument for why she was going to vote no on redistricting is that her grandson received a mass text. Excellent. So now that the vote has failed, which, by the way, the vote was going to fail from the very beginning, I knew, as many have known, that there are a lot of state senate Republicans. Our House, our General assembly is pretty okay, but the state senate is full of a lot of people who don't do anything whatsoever at any time. And they didn't want to vote it through. They didn't want to pass it through. And so the President of the United States issued a statement this evening promising, pinky, promising to go out and primary those who voted against the redistricting measure. This is the President of the United States this evening.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

State is funny because I won the. I won Indiana all three times by a landslide. And I wasn't working on it very hard. Would have been nice. I think we would have picked up two seats if we did that. You had one gentleman, the head of the Senate, I guess, Bray, whatever his name is. I heard he was against it. Probably lose his next primary, whenever that is. I hope he does because he's done a tremendous disservice. I mean, think of it. It's a great place. I love the people there. They love me. We won in a landslide all three times. Got tremendous votes. Record. I got record votes. And then you. There's no reason for doing that. And the Democrats do it to us, so I can't imagine that they do it. But I wasn't very much involved. But there's a man named Bray as a, I guess, head of the Senate. Was that Bray said the name Bray?

[Tony Kennett]

Yeah, we'll talk about that a little bit. So here's the fun stuff now, Radio crew, we're running out of time with you guys. You can find us over on the live stream, YouTube.com daily signal or on rumble as well, because we're going to talk about this for a little bit here. The first and foremost important thing to understand about redistricting is how the constitution of the United States originally passed appointed congressmen, representatives and senators. Why are they appointed the way they are? Why does that matter? It all comes down to the Federalist Papers and actually knowing a thing or two about the history of the United States. Kind of a crazy idea to learn or to read the constitution in your state and the federal constitution do in fact matter. In the state of Indiana right now, just like every other state, the state legislature appoints the map redistricting process. Now, some states vote on that directly, some states appoint a commission. But the constitution is set up so that the state legislature designs the congressional map, cuts up the electors, and then the counterbalance over on the senate side was that the state legislature pre 17th amendment was supposed to directly appoint state senators, elect state senators or excuse me, elect senators from the state legislature to the senate. This way there was an equal balance in the state interacting with the federal government's congress. This is how it was originally supposed to be set up. Radio crew, we do have to see you guys out. That's the end of the radio covers. We're going to continue on the live stream. This is important news to get to. It's the Tony Kinnit cast here on the Daily Signal. Now let's talk a little bit about gerrymandering, because I have heard a lot of people saying, oh, gerrymander. And they clutch the pearls because the word gerrymandering, it's really, really bad. It's rigging the maps, isn't it? No, it's not. Here's why it's not. You, as a citizen of the United States, have the authority to appoint a state legislature. You right there listening to this show, wherever you're watching it from, doesn't matter unless you're outside of the United States, in which case, please stay the crap out of our elections. If you're here in this country, though, you are responsible for electing your state legislature. And that state legislature then draws the maps. And the idea for a very long time in this country's history was that you would craft a map that was fair enough so that the people in your state would not get pissed with the state legislature. And at the same time, you would try to weight that map to your advantage. That is how it was supposed to set up. It was a counterbalance to make people care about the state legislature. Believe it or not, the entire point of the whole state legislature appointing senators or electing senators and then drawing the map was to make people be engaged with their state legislature, which is supposed to matter more than Congress. That's not the way it is anymore. Now it's a national game. And states like California and Illinois and Massachusetts have gone out of their way to gerrymander the living crap out of their state and organize it and rig it enough so that it gives Democrats what some would consider a very outsized advantage. In California, Illinois, Massachusetts, several other states, it is a national game. What California and Illinois and Massachusetts do with their electoral maps matters to you because what they are doing is altering the balance of power in the House of Representatives. That is what is taking place. And so when Texas redistricts and Indiana redistricts, it is pursuing an arms race with an end goal of detente, which means to back off if no one else in the country does anything. And the blue states just continue to gerrymander, nothing changes. And it just gets worse. If you reach a point where it says, all right, you're going to put your hand on the red button. Fine, we'll put our hands on the red button. That has worked before to get people to back away from it. Gerrymandering. I'm glad Indiana didn't remit gerrymander. Yeah. Because God forbid that the Republicans here in the state of Indiana again, there are Republicans in the blue districts too, get what they want accomplished from their state legislature brought forward through Congress. And the Democrat voters don't disappear. Those districts are moderated by blue voters when the districts are redrawn. I'm not making the best case for it though. The best case for this was made this evening by one particular state senator, Chris Garten, who gave one of the best speeches I think I've ever heard on the soil of Indiana. So I'll play this clip. It's excellent. Really good stuff. Check it out.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

Some will say these maps are political. Let me be clear. You're damn right they are. Political policy is political. Safe streets are political. Look at Indianapolis. Affordable electricity is political. A drug free Indiana is political. Peace in the Middle east is political. I dealt with it firsthand. If drawing a map that secures two more seats for the Republican Party means that we continue to see overdose Deaths drop by 20%, then I'll draw that map every single day of the week and twice on Sunday. If Toronto map means that we'll continue to see a 93% drop in illegal immigration and I'll sign it with a smile on my face. We're not here to be neutral arbiters of decline. We're here to be active agents of American greatness.

[Tony Kennett]

I want to make this clear to every one of you who are listening. The idea that you, if you are a conservative or you're an independent, if you lean libertarian but have conservative roots, whatever. The idea that you need to be the bigger person and play really nice and fair because the other side that is campaigning openly for excusing political violence, for ripping away your property and distributing it to whomever comes into the country, legally or not, who is interested in ripping everything away from you and making your children apologize for it. That crew were just supposed to sit and go, well, I mean, when we want to be really nice and fair, as though there was something inherently more fair about the map being pretty shapes when already the blue states, which again, if you don't know, in the state of Indiana, Illinois already blames every freaking thing on earth on you. Everything. Every Illinois Democrat politician blames every woe of that state on you and you alone. California, Massachusetts, other states have gerrymandered already. It is a national game. What those states do affects you. Congress is a national game. There's an argument that was made by a colleague of mine whom I have a lot of respect for, but he's wrong here. Rob Kendall on WIBC earlier in the day. He makes it sound as though your congressman is supposed to sit down with you and then is supposed to deliver magical things like a basket of Goodies from Washington, D.C. back to you here in Indiana. That's not what that's for. That's not how that works. And by the way, that's not me talking. That is the Federalist Papers talking. There are entire scripted recorded constitutional conventions where the point of a congressperson is outlined when a congressperson delivers for their state, that means accomplishing political goals for those that elected them. And because Congress is a national game, that means that the state of Indiana sending people to Washington to accomplish the goals of Indiana matter. And the goals of Indiana are not Andre Carson and the goober they have up in northern Indiana on the Democrat ticket. They are not consistently what you believe is political. You don't like it, tough your politics. The word politics, it stems from culture. It is what you believe made manifest into policy and law. It matters. And we didn't get that here. And in large part because of a lot of selfishness. Governor Braun put out a good statement. He said, quote, I'm very disappointed that a small group of misguided state senators have partnered with Democrats to reject this opportunity to protect Hoosiers with fair maps and reject the leadership of President Trump. I disagree with them there. I don't like the idea that we have to sugarcoat this as some super special, super duper fair map. It is supposed to be a process of achieving detente at a point, not like some magical sugar coating of it. But anyway, he said, ultimately decisions like this carry political consequences. I'll be working with the President to challenge these people who do not represent the best interests of Hoosiers because primaries are coming.

[Producer Nick]

Producer NICK if you feel like being the better person and doing the fair thing is conceding the game to a player that is cheating, you are a fool. When you look at California and Illinois and how they redistrict and just say, oh, well, it's run by Democrats, of course they're going to gerrymander to favor themselves. And then you have Indiana attempt to do in a similar fashion in response and say, we shouldn't do that. We should be the better people. It isn't just gerrymandering that Illinois and California are doing. Minnesota. How many times do we have to have stories where fraud is so systemic and advantaging leftist politicians to stay in office, hold power, consolidate it and abuse it. And then you look at your local races and say that they don't matter, that they won't have impacts, that they should choose to be the better people and quote, unquote, play the game fair.

[Tony Kennett]

But it's not, you're being made a fool. The catch is, is, and you're right, they are being made a fool. The catch is when you hear people say, well, we need to, like, play all nice and fair. It's very easy for you in a Republican state to sit here where things are not burning down all around you and say, well, I must play very nicely here when there are people who are living in places like California where Gavin Newsom and Democrats far before him have gerrymandered that state to hell and gone and sit back and say, well, you know, I don't want to sink to their level. Those Republicans are depending on you to force California to back down. If you don't force them to back down, they're not going to back down. You don't tell a bully, hey, don't hit me anymore. No means no. That's not how bullies stop. Bullies stop when you hit back. That's how it works. The idea that we can just like all lay down my weapons so you're, you're using your weapon violently and inappropriately. So I'm going to lay my weapon down in hopes that you'll treat me wonderfully. How about no? And by the way, this is again, not Only something that I'm echoing from the Federalist Papers in the Constitution. It is still to this day upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States, who just ruled, by the way, in a 6, 3 decision, not a 54 decision, a 63 decision, that Texas redistricting is approved because it's political. Redistricting is in and of itself political. That's why the Texas map is legal again. I have yet to hear a single coherent reason as to why the 21 Republicans who voted no, Eric Basler, Vanita Becker, Mike Bohakek, Rod Bray. I hope he's enjoyed his time because he is absolutely done. I hated Rod Bray before. It was cool, though. But here in Indiana, just as a record, Brian Buchanan, James Buck, Ed Charbonneau, Mike Kreider, who is my state senator, who is a coward, I want to make that clear, A coward who responded to some people making threats. A lot of people received threats on both sides of this through this entire process, but who responded to people reaching out and saying, hey, praying for you through these threats. I hope you're safe, by lashing out and then threatening them himself. So he's done anyway in the state Senate, and good. I might take a seat anyhow. Spencer Deary, Dan Geraldinelk, Blake Doriot, Susan Glick, Greg Good, Travis Holdman, Gene Lysing again. It's like my grandson's getting text messages. Who the last time she was asked, by the way, what the principal city was of her Senate district, couldn't name it anyway. Ryan Mishler, Rick Nehemiah, Linda Rogers, Mark Spencer, Kyle Walker and Greg Walker. Now, at least five of these have already announced they're not running for reelection because. Yeah, their time's done.

[Producer Nick]

Yeah. And if you're one of those people that are not running for reelection, just realize that this is going to taint your legacy. And those who are continuing to plan on staying in office realize that by you choosing this and thinking that this is some sort of not joining in the political fight, standing back and saying, rid my hands of this, just know that you're choosing to be a part of this and that that is going to be one of the final decisions that you make in office.

[Tony Kennett]

I really do.

[Producer Nick]

People are going to stay with this. People aren't going to put up with this.

[Tony Kennett]

So there's a major front that's, you know, being brought forward for, you know, a series of primary challenges. JD Vance pointed out that Rod Bray had essentially said, we're going to let each senator decide whether they're for or against it. That's what he said to the President's team. And then Vance pointed out that Bray was running around behind him trying to get everyone to vote no. And that is politics. If you're going to do politics again, really hot take. Don't lie, especially when someone is there with a camera. Guys, guys.

[Producer Nick]

Pretty good policy.

[Tony Kennett]

Any message that you send, it will be screenshotted. Anything you say on camera is being recorded. If you're a political official, you're out in public, I guarantee you somebody's watching. Don't be dumb, don't lie. But if you think that I'm frustrated about this, and again, I am frustrated about this because I have yet to hear a single person, some whom I'm friends with, some who are just complete idiots out there. I mean, they're really complete idiots. There's a lady named Destiny Wells who ran for Attorney General and got spanked, Ran for Secretary of State and got spanked, who's now mocking Republicans for being losers, which is really sad. Aside from those people, there are some really frustrated people right now in the state. And honest to goodness, the best person to articulate where we actually go from here. Because believe it or not, I really do believe that losing tonight was actually a good thing.

[Producer Nick]

Wake up call.

[Tony Kennett]

Making people point out very clearly where they stand is a good thing. It's good. It was good for Republicans, conservatives, not just in Indiana, but around the country, to hear state senators get up and go, I don't like it. And he was like, okay, well, why? Well, the timing is bad. What do you mean the timing is bad?

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

Look at. Go.

[Tony Kennett]

Do me a favor, you out there right now, go look up on Wikipedia or whatever the previous congressional maps of the state of Indiana in the last 30 years. You will see the state legislature has been trying to unracially gerrymander Indianapolis, which used to be rated one of the most gerrymandered congressional districts along racial lines in the country. They've been trying to ungerrymander that for two decades. The only argument, the timing is all wrong. I only vote on the Fridays of April. Stupid. I'm glad the rest of the country's seeing that that's a good thing. Because people who choose really stupid, crappy arguments and then act smug because, well, they're a senator and you're not a senator, you curmudgeonly fool. Best of luck to you. So we're going to cut over to a great interview with Kurt Schlichter from Townhall.com. we'll come back after that for just A very few brief closing thoughts. So don't go anywhere. It's the Tony Kennett cast here on the Daily Signal. You're listening to the Tony Kenneth cast on 93 WIBC. The Indiana Senate has failed to redistrict a big freaking Whomp.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

Whomp.

[Tony Kennett]

40 Republicans to the 10 Democrats. They can't get redistricting off the board. So we bring on the most off angry trial lawyer to deliver the sledgehammer. Kurt Schlichter from Townhall.com. what do you make of today?

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

What is it with femboys in Indiana? I, I don't get it. I mean, I mean, are they all penis free Mike Pences?

[Tony Kennett]

I don't, I really don't know what to say. So my state senator, his name is Michael Kreider, he does nothing in the senate. He's done nothing his entire time as the majority whip in the senate. And the only thing he's really succeeded in is being whipped. And kid you not, his argument is I'm mad people were mad at me about redistricting. We have an old lady named Jean Lysing who's mad that her son, her, excuse me, her grandson, received a mass text message. And then you have another guy who's very angry that Trump called Tim Walls a retard because he has a kid with down syndrome, which is not the same thing as being mentally retarded. All of this isn't that drunk. Yeah, yeah, this is, this is captain dui. Yeah, that would be. We have a few DUI winners in our state legislature.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

Are the people of Indiana going to do anything about this? Well, we need to see a mass exodus. This is the problem with red states. Everybody can be, everybody has to be a Republican if they want to ever do anything. So you get a lot of people who are, you know, sexually inadequate, impotent femboys.

[Tony Kennett]

I mean, you know, you could have like the California crew, I mean, Gavin Newsomboy side. Yeah.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

California Republicans are just incompetent.

[Tony Kennett]

So incompetence versus incontinence sounds like the weirdest Republican road choice I think I've seen yet. But I mean, here we are, the incontinent.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

Well, I mean we're bringing up the secret perversions among a lot of these so called mainstream conservatives. I mean, I'm not saying that they're doing golden showers. I'm just saying that would be the least surprising thing I'd ever heard.

[Tony Kennett]

I, I gotta ask your perspective on this because you've done trial law for a long time. You of course are Not a, as you put it, a femboy cuck. And so when you're looking at the way the Republican Party gets out of this, when you actually look at the legal methods that need to be taken. And I mean legal as in like bills passed, people thrown in jail, courts doing their thing. How do you actually get out of this status quo, bull, nonsense era that so many red states still seem to be steeped in?

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

It just takes time. In Texas, you know, it's one seat at a time. They got rid of a bunch of them and a bunch of the bad ones and they've redistricted, they've got school choice. You've gotta, you've gotta take back your party and the problem. This sums it up. This is a California example. Rarely. I went to, voluntarily went to a California Republican Party thing. Now I want to emphasize I live in Los Angeles, right? I got 600,000 followers. I write the biggest at the biggest conservative website. I'm on the TV all the time, never been asked to do anything. That's how competent they are.

[Tony Kennett]

I'm not invited to the Indiana Republican things.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

So I'm sitting next to one guy and he goes, I've been the 67th district chair for 25 years. And I'm like, have you ever won? And he looks at me like I'm stupid.

[Tony Kennett]

Okay, I gotta. So the question that our audience has asked consistently, and I've saved this question for you because you are the guy who keeps track of when you do a lot of your writing, of course, you've written the Kelly Turnbull series, you've written the American Apocalypse, you know, post American Second Civil War book. You keep an eye on what people are actually willing to do before it is too late and things fall apart. We got midterms coming up, right? You've alluded to the 2026 midterms in a couple of different books now. So I gotta ask you, you say that what people need to do is take things back one seat at a time. Do you see people caring enough in the midterms or so far, is it lazy? Status quo Central?

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

I think right now we're lazy because it's a year out. We have a different voter demographic. It's not the suburbanites that it used to be who always went and voted. All the Democrats are gonna vote. I do think that the economy's gonna turn better, and I really do think that's the key. If everybody's feeling good about the economy, that's gonna take a lot of wind out of the sails of the people Going, can you believe it? They're arresting illegal aliens and not allowing weird perverts into our daughter's locker rooms. I do think it is. I mean, Carville hasn't been right about anything in 35 years.

[Tony Kennett]

He's the Jim Cramer of politics.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

Oh, my God, just such a clown. But he was right about. It's the economy, stupid. I think we're doing the right things in it and that'll get people out. But, you know, people in Indiana and other red states need to get mad. You know, I know Jimmy, you know, I know old Joe, our representative. He's our senator. I saw him at the truck, you know, the truck rally and the county fair. He seemed nice. Screw Joe. Joe wasn't there when you need him. Joe thinks you're a B word.

[Tony Kennett]

This is something that bothers me without end when I look at local politics. So I know you. I know that you do hits with Tony Katz every once in a while. And Tony covers a lot more local stuff than I do. I focus on the outward, the national stuff because I think Indianapolis, for lack of a better term, sucks. And so I just don't, I just don't care as much as my, the, my colleagues do. And they do a great job of covering local news so I don't have to. But in, in that process of, of the state doing this nonsense, no one cares around primary time. And it infuriates me not because I think, you know, everyone should drop everything and become political, but I think that all of the broadcast media spend so much time angry right now, spend so much time angry during the general election. No one is getting up in arms when we're actually picking the fools. Look, they're going to be in office.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

It needs to be an organized. Look, they're not organized, okay? The Republican Party is not organized. It's just a bunch of time servers. If you get an organized group that goes to every disputed district, finds a good candidate and says, you know, we're, we're going to back you, and there is money available to take these, there will be, oh, I'll tell you, there'll be vindictive money to take them out after this. And you put somebody good in every place and then you go to the weak willed Republican, we may not win you, but we're going to make you suffer. We might not beat you. You might, you might slip through. But it's not going to be fun anymore. You're not going to have fun being a senator because you've screwed with us. We're going to complain. We're going to whine. Wherever you go, there's going to be a bunch of people there going, why did you help the Democrats take the House, you piece of crap? And it isn't going to be fun. And people in your neighborhood instead of coming down going, hi, Senator, they're going to go, oh, it's you. You were the jerk.

[Tony Kennett]

You see a lot of this kind of attitude right now still, which is a really good thing to see on the foreign policy side. People coming out and going, Trump's being mean to Venezuela, Trump's being mean to Panama. Trump's being mean to. And there are a lot of people who are saying that the age of nice guy silly string is over. Now again, I know you're getting ready or you have released this week the ninth book in the People's Republic series, Panama Red. Tell me how the foreign policy attitude. I know that it's probably a little spicier than in today's day and age.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

Well, America has broken in two. And that's the conceit for the nine Kelly Turnbull books, which has sold hundreds of thousands of copies.

[Tony Kennett]

Yes, yes.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

People want to go out there and read something that's fun and exciting and action packed and not exactly the same. You know, there are some throw writers who write one book a year that's always the same. You know, you got good ones like Jack Carr and you've got other ones like, well, fill in the blank. Yep. And that's literally what they do. This time Kelly Turnbull has to go to Panama. There's a dictator down there and he's got to deal with him and blue Americans both trying to woo him. And it's not. And Kelly Turnbull's not a character who uses his words, if you know what I'm saying.

[Tony Kennett]

That's very, very true. So we'll of course link that down in the description. I've read every one of them. I'm looking forward to this one. And I, you know, I enjoy, I don't know, I like this kind of side.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

It's fun. Yeah, we can have fun. It doesn't have to be miserable and it doesn't have to be. And we don't have to put up with these mediocrities, man, believe it or not.

[Tony Kennett]

And I'm actually watching a few kind of resignation announcements from some Indiana state senators because they know it's about to be very. So I hope that middle finger when they're walking out the door is worth it. Kurt Schlichter, Townhall.com Panama Red Great new Book. Go read it. Thanks as always, for stopping by.

[Guest/Interviewer 1]

Thanks for having me.

[Tony Kennett]

All right, a little bit of bonus tone. It's just a smidgen here at the end of the show because, you know, we love you and I think that it's fun, you know, just to dig into the last little bit of stuff. I. I wanted to once again kind of throw out a little bit of encouragement here because there's a lot of political things that are frustrating. For example, right now, there's a Virginia has yet again failed to indict Letitia James for yet again, the most obvious crime written down in multiple places of all kind. The kinds of fraud where you say, oh, I'm totally living here, and instead it's your. Some other person who's renting and you didn't write it down correctly. You know, those kinds of things are frustrating. So why then am I not flipping the tables? You know, like I grumbled, I mumbled a little bit. Why not flipping the tables? I'll tell you why. Right now, there are a lot of people who are getting out ahead of their skis and are doing the very, very classic. I believe this is the beginning of the end. It's really the beginning of the end.

[Senator Rick Scott]

The beginning of the end.

[Tony Kennett]

He may be feeling the walls closing in on him. That whole thing they're doing all of the beginning of the end. It's all over. Republicans have lost the plot. I will remind you that as silly and as sad as it sounds, the one thing, and the one thing only that will drive Americans out or away in a midterm year is the economy. Yep, it's the economy. And once you throw that into the mix next year, again, as I've said before, with the economy actually starting to gain some traction and momentum, once you see some of the. Again, still some things to be decided once you see some things starting to move forward. In Q1 of 2026, once the big beautiful bill of bountiful whatever drops in on the tax system, that will change some of the outlook. Now it becomes who are the Republicans gonna run? Primary season is coming. Now we find out because a couple of years ago, Republicans went way too far into the crazy Jane Lane. You got out Carrie Lake. And she was almost as. Well, not as nutty as Candace Owens. Cause no one's as nutty as Candace Owens. But I mean, she was out there. Maybe not the candidate to run with. Then you had kind of a lackluster candidate selection that came out for a. Republicans are kind of starting to feel their oats on some candidates. That aren't terrible. Matt Van Epps from Tennessee, very solid candidate, very good. Did not run the winsome Sears campaign. That was in Virginia. We're looking at a possible pretty good slate here heading into 2026. Is it going to be a fight? Absolutely. Tooth and nail. It should be. It should be. You have to be engaged and there's nothing that gets Republicans more engaged than being pissed. That is the hallmark of conservatism. We are the most effective when we're pissed. It's the truth. It is a meme the left often hits us with. It's one of the only memes the left can meme. God bless those little miserable fools. But when we are aggravated and have purpose, there is a genuine motivation that does in fact bring forward good candidates and actions. Because you say what are you going to do? I know you sound nice. You have the American flag behind you. I love that you were a combat veteran. Excellent. You go and you hunt deer. Super cool. Maybe you were a football coach. Neato. But what are you going to do? Right now we're seeing Republicans in the Senate pitch health care plans. Not just wouldn't it be nice just actual plans. We're seeing the House put forward some things. Brandon Gill making it very clear impeachments are coming on the table. When you get into primary season in 2026, you're going to have congressmen and women that go home and have to answer, hey, how come you're not impeaching James Boasberg in D.C. hey, how, how come you aren't appointing those prosecutors that Trump has set forward into the Senate? Hey, how come you guys aren't putting forward this motion to codify these executive orders in the law. How come you're not and then you actually have to do some things to win the primary. That's in Republicans advantage. Just a fat matter of the fact based on the demographics Producer Nick yeah.

[Producer Nick]

Not to retread ground we covered yesterday too much but we are seeing quite a lot of wins for the country coming from the Trump administration. Like we talked about with Hans the the disparate the reduction in the by Attorney General Pam Bondi releasing the memo narrowing the materials permitting to the race and sex based preferences within the doj. I disparate impact.

[Tony Kennett]

Yeah. I mean when you bring through some of the other things that are also very major huge power packed issues. We've talked about some real estate stuff. I don't want to get into it tonight just because it's 8:26. There's some interesting stuff that's going to come out of this no longer allowed.

[Producer Nick]

To racially Future wins.

[Tony Kennett]

Right. Some future wins that are coming based on removing a lot of the racial discrimination practice. My, my eyes were drawn to one particular question from Levitz 5378 channel member asked should Tennessee redistrict? I don't know right off the top of my, right off the top of my head what the Tennessee map looks like. But yes, they should. Every single Republican state in this country should redistrict until California and Michigan and Massachusetts agree to back off. Every one of them. Absolutely, you say, Tony, why? Because people are already doing it with their feet. I'll say that again. People are already leaving blue states and going to red states. Constitutional electoral votes from Congress to the presidency are already allotted based on population and population density. People are leaving California, those 55 electoral votes, not clinging to them. In the meantime, what you have are those states trying desperately to cling on to the very last little bits of majority power they have while they have it, because people are leaving absolutely. Redistrict. Force them down. You don't owe anything to JB Pritzker. You don't owe anything to Gavin Newsom. You don't owe anything to that weird goofball lady that runs Massachusetts on every third day because the mob runs it, you know, the rest of the week. You don't owe anything to them. What do you think's gonna happen if Indiana were to redistrict today? What do you think would happen? Riots in the streets? No, they only do that if a guy on fentanyl dies. So what would have been the big oof. What have been the problem? And that in and of itself, I think is again, you know, pretty prish and stuff. So on the close. Oh, it should. Tennessee redistrict. There's like one small Republican district in the, in the Southwest. Yeah, you can redistrict that, too. Get rid of that Southwestern district. Screw it, you don't owe them anything. Make the state look prettier. And sorry, one other thing here from the, from the producer team here. Oh, yeah, Memphis. Good to know. Memphis is not exactly doing super duper at the moment with the crime rate anyway, so there's your answer to that question on that. We're going to sign off for the evening and wish you all a very, very fine Thursday. We'll be back tomorrow for a roundup of the week's news and nonsense. I'm Tony Kennett and this is the Tony Kennett cast here on the Daily Signal, nationally syndicated first on 93 WIBC. Take care. The holidays mean more travel, more shopping, more time online, and more personal info in more places that could expose you more to identity theft. But LifeLock monitors millions of data points per second. If your identity is stolen, our US based restoration specialists will fix it, guaranteed your money back. Don't face drained accounts, fraudulent loans or financial losses alone. Get more holiday fun and less holiday worry with LifeLock.

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