Ep. 477 - ESCALATING: Tim Walz Threatens to Deploy National Guard Against ICE, Agents Clash with Rioters

Summary

The Tony Kinnett Cast - Episode 477

Date: January 8, 2026
Title: ESCALATING: Tim Walz Threatens to Deploy National Guard Against ICE, Agents Clash with Rioters
Host: Tony Kinnett
Guests: Ron Coleman
Podcast: The Daily Signal’s flagship program

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Overview

This episode dives deep into the rapidly escalating situation in Minnesota following the fatal shooting of Renee Nicole Goode (also referred to as Renee Macklin in later reports) by an ICE agent. The shooting, which took place amidst heightened ICE enforcement in Minneapolis, sparked immediate protests, riots, incendiary rhetoric from local and national leaders, and talk of potentially deploying state and even federal forces. Tony Kinnett, joined by legal analyst Ron Coleman, analyzes legal, political, and cultural ramifications of the incident—especially Minnesota Governor Tim Walz’s threat to deploy the National Guard against federal ICE officers, raising fears of an unprecedented state/federal confrontation.

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Main Themes

• Escalation in Minnesota: ICE agent-involved shooting during an immigration enforcement operation; immediate violent protests ensue.
• Political Fallout: Outrage among local and national Democrats; Governor Walz’s extraordinary threat to use the National Guard against federal agents.
• Legal Analysis: Discussion of federal preeminence, the Insurrection Act, and the severe constitutional stakes.
• Cultural Context: Focus on Somali immigration/fraud scandal in Minnesota; perceptions of law enforcement; left/right response.
• Media and Political Rhetoric: Immediate polarized takes from politicians, with parallel references to past American crises (e.g., George Floyd, January 6th).
• On-the-Ground Situational Updates: Real-time reporting of emerging unrest and law enforcement response in Minneapolis.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Incident Breakdown: The Shooting and Its Footage

• Full Footage and Angles (05:00–08:40):
  • Renee Nicole Goode (Missouri plates on her Honda Pilot) confronted ICE agents, allegedly obstructed them, drove at officers, and was shot.
  • Tony repeatedly emphasizes the importance of establishing facts: “It is more important before we get to the wheres, whys and hows, that the pieces are set correctly…” (05:25).
  • Video evidence is analyzed carefully for authenticity (not AI-generated) and angles showing agent-officer interactions.

2. Legal Analysis with Ron Coleman

• Was the shooting justified? (09:22–11:00):

  • Ron Coleman: “Absolutely justified shooting, slam dunk. Two, federal agent cannot be, will not be prosecuted by the state of Minnesota for his conduct in this, in the course of his work…” (09:22).
  • Broader implications: federal authority supersedes local prosecution; highlights political optics rather than legal vulnerability for ICE.

• Political “Patty Cake” and Law Enforcement Strategy (10:16–11:54):

  • Ron criticizes federal (Trump admin) “delicacy” in riot response: “They have been reluctant to really make the kinds of arrests in riot situations. It’s always been the marginal thing they can do...” (10:40).

3. Governor Tim Walz’s Response

• Formation of a State/Federal Rift (11:54–14:08, 54:10–56:13):

  • Tony: “To actually go forward and suggest…that the Minnesota National Guard might be deployed in opposition to federal troops…My God, Seriously, I can’t. Obviously he’s in a middle of a major scandal…” (11:54).
  • Walz’s press conference analyzed as “atrocious,” “stupid, stupid response,” with civil-war-era comparisons (“Fort Sumter vibes”).

• Direct Quotes – Governor Walz (52:44–53:54):

  • “To Minnesotans, I say this, I feel your anger. I’m angry.” (52:44)
  • “We do not need any further help from the federal government. To Donald Trump and Kristi Noem. You’ve done enough.” (55:15)
  • "I have a very simple message. We do not need any further help from the federal government. To Donald Trump and Kristi Noem, you’ve done enough." (55:16)

• Provocative Line:

  • “We’ve never been at war with our federal government…” (62:42) – seen as an alarming statement suggesting open conflict.

4. Real-Time Riot Developments & Law Enforcement Response

• Riot Footage and Escalation (40:31–44:42):

  • Protests immediately turn violent: American flag burned, brawls between ICE/other officials and rioters, snowballs and rocks thrown.
  • Tony: “Throwing a rock. Attempted murder…In Somalian culture, stoning is quite common here in the United States.”

• Chasing out law enforcement (43:48–44:20):

  • Protesters chase ICE/state police vehicles out, as captured by Fox 9 and other outlets.

• Vigil Turns Angry (46:31, 74:03–74:45):

  • Initial “vigil” for Renee turns into a large anti-ICE rally with increasingly militant rhetoric: “Rise up. Take a stand. Rise up. Take a stand.”
  • Tony remarks on the transformation from vigil to riot.

5. Political and Cultural Subtext

• Somali Fraud Scandal and Congressional Hearing (76:34–84:26):

  • Connection drawn between ICE’s Minneapolis operation and ongoing House Oversight investigation into Somali immigration/social services fraud.
  • Legislators highlight staggering welfare statistics among Somali households and probe Governor Walz’s knowledge of fraud.

• Statistical breakdown – Brandon Gill (79:12):

  • “54% of Somali-headed households in Minnesota are on food stamps. 7% for native Minnesota-headed households. 73% on Medicaid. 81% on welfare. Even after 10 years, 78% still on welfare…” (79:29–80:25)

• Tony’s Analysis:

  • Frames the situation as a result of imported “toxic culture” rather than race or background: “Somali culture in Minneapolis is a problem… because of the culture. The culture is toxic.”

6. National Political Reaction

• Trump’s Statement (46:31–47:38):

  • Blames “radical left” for violence, affirms officer acted in self-defense.

• Democratic Voices—AOC and Others (96:59–98:21):

  • Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: “What we saw today was a criminal murder a woman and shoot her in the head while she was trying to escape and flee for her life.” (96:59)
  • Tony retorts, “You don’t have the right to flee law enforcement… The idea that you can interfere with law enforcement, because that’s some kind of like noble protesting, right? That’s not what protesting means.” (61:11)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Reaction to Governor Walz’s Statements:

• “What a thing to say. I mean, forget Fort Sumter vibes. This is…a Molotov cocktail through a window.” – Tony Kinnett (11:54)

Ron Coleman on Justification:

• “Absolutely justified shooting, slam dunk.” (09:22)

On the Insurrection Act:

• “If [Trump] were to invoke [the Insurrection Act], would give him powers to deploy resources… It will only be a matter of minutes before some judge…” – Ron Coleman (20:25)
• “No, but… there’s a lot of things that they can’t do that they’re doing all the time these days.” – Ron on whether a federal judge could block the Insurrection Act (21:24)

Tony on Political Motives:

• “He’s going for a perp walk over this and garner sympathy—‘Oh, look, Trump’s being political.’” (15:56)

On Protest Escalation:

• “Chasing law enforcement. That’s not a vigil. That’s not a vigil. Don’t mess with this.” (46:32)

Jacob Frey (Mayor of Minneapolis), explicit:

• “But I do have a message for our community, for our city, and I have a message for ICE: to ICE, get the fuck out of Minneapolis.” (64:39)

AOC's Take:

• “What we saw today was a criminal murder a woman and shoot her in the head while she was trying to escape and flee for her life.” (96:59)

Tony’s Response:

• “You don’t have the right to flee law enforcement…I know there’s this fun idea that a lot of people have…” (97:15)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [05:00–08:40] – Detailed breakdown of shooting, video authenticity investigation
• [09:04–22:51] – Legal implications and political strategy with Ron Coleman
• [40:31–44:42] – Riot escalation, protesters chase off ICE/state police
• [52:44–56:13] – Governor Walz’s controversial press conference and threats
• [60:52–62:42] – Minneapolis Police Chief and Walz’s further escalation talk
• [64:39–67:37] – Mayor Jacob Frey tells ICE to “get the fuck out”; more anti-ICE rhetoric
• [74:03–74:45] – Vigil grows into militant protest (“Rise up. Take a stand.”)
• [76:34–84:26] – House hearing on Somali fraud, implications for Minnesota politics
• [96:59–98:43] – AOC’s statement accusing ICE agent of “criminal murder,” Tony’s rebuttal

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Tone & Language

Consistently combative, sarcastic, and outrage-driven in commentary, especially towards Democratic politicians and protests; maintains rigorous focus on factual analysis of incident footage. Frequent use of pop-culture references (Family Guy, sports analogies), and a sardonic take on both the rhetoric of political figures and the coverage by mainstream media.

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Conclusion

Episode Takeaways:

• The episode stresses the volatility and seriousness of the Minneapolis situation, warning of a potential constitutional crisis should state and federal forces directly clash.
• Both sides (left and right) are accused by the host of rushing to assign guilt and martyrdom before facts are settled.
• The local cultural and political backdrop (Somali fraud scandals, sanctuary policies, “Summer of Love” riot precedents) looms large in Tony Kinnett’s analysis.
• The rhetoric from officials like Governor Walz and Mayor Frey is heavily criticized as reckless and inflammatory.
• Tony unequivocally sides with ICE on legal grounds, but urges restraint and factual objectivity in the ensuing investigation.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode:

You will gain a pointed, highly detailed, right-of-center analysis of a complex law enforcement incident, subsequent political meltdown in Minnesota, and the national-level stakes—complete with expert legal insight, commentary on protest tactics, ongoing congressional investigations, and a critical eye on partisan media/politician responses. The summary above details all major topics with attributed remarks and timestamps for easy reference.

Transcript

[Ron Coleman]

Tony Kennett.

[Tony Kennett]

Tony Kennett.

[Governor Tim Walz]

Tony Kennett.

[Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez]

Tony Kennett.

[Tony Kennett]

Tony Kennett.

[Governor Tim Walz]

Tony Kennett.

[Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez]

Tony Kennett, host of the Tony Kennett cast.

[Tony Kennett]

Let's get down to business. You're listening to the Tony Kennett cast on 93 WIBC on CYTV here on the Daily Signal. Good evening and welcome to the Tony Kennett cast here on the Daily Signal, nationally syndicated first on 93 WIBC. We have more than enough news to cover tonight, so let's get right into it. At the top of the show, I want to make this explicitly clear. Viewer and listener discretion is advised completely whether you are listening on air, on radio. And I hope our board operators at our syndication stations do have their hands over the dump button. We do not have the ability to do that here in this short amount of time. If you're watching on YouTube or, or rumble and you have kids around, this ain't the show for them. All right, there's going to be bad language. There's going to be some very disturbing footage. But in the interest of covering this news in the fullness and the manner with which it deserves to be covered in the short amount of time we're turning it around, those things aren't going to be bleeped. That said, and aside, let us get to the main story. The situation in Minnesota is escalating. Right now there are two pockets of rioters and I say rioters because we have already seen individuals setting fire to things, specifically the American flag and I believe some kind of attempted pile of wood that didn't quite set like some particular, not scaffolding but some kind of oldie moldy wood on the side of the road didn't light fire. They didn't quite set the fire. Right. There's another pocket that did attempt to break into a courthouse in Minneapolis and this all revolves around the shooting of 37 year old Renee Nicole. Good. And to get into this, I want to show you very first right up front, the full footage of the encounter. So 2,000 ICE agents from immigration Customs Enforcement at the behest of the Department of Homeland Security went into Minneapolis and St. Paul to continue the operation of upholding federal immigration law. This is law that Congress has voted on. These are federal agents with who have the authority to uphold federal law. Whether state or local governments choose to work with federal agents or not, it is still federal law. And there is an individual here, as you will see on video, who has her car perpendicular in the middle of the road of a couple of ICE agents. And that is when things get ugly here you go, So the Honda Pilot. The black Honda Pilot with Missouri plates is the vehicle that is in question. I should. I should clarify what appear to be Missouri plates. This has been reported by a, I believe, a local affiliate outlet in Minnesota, as well as a lot of independent outlets. But I just want to make that clear. So the agent goes up to the individual in the vehicle and tells her to get out of the car. There are people in the background that are yelling, that have been chasing, following around ICE all day. Phones and faces impeding. And we'll get to that. And then things start to get rather ugly. No.

[Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez]

Oh, my God.

[Tony Kennett]

What the fuck? What the fuck? You just fucking. What the fuck did you do?

[Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez]

You are fucking criminals. You're fucking criminals. What the fuck?

[Tony Kennett]

All right, so she yells like that for a little while longer. She's slowly making her way over to the vehicle. You can see the Honda Pilot, which has. As the driver was shot. As the. Again, later, reportedly, Renee Nicole Goode was shot. She ended up careening out of control, obviously, into the other side of the street into that white sedan as the. I'm not gonna play her just screaming obscenities over and over. She follows the officer, the agent who fired the shots at the vehicle. She yells at him for a while, and then instead of making her way over to the vehicle, she then returns and then doubles back to the vehicle in question. Now, I'm going to cut the footage here because there is some. Some blood and some gore that is visible. I don't feel comfortable showing that on the live stream. So we're going to cut that. There. That is the footage of what occurred. Now, there are multiple angles of said footage. Here is what occurred from another angle. Get the fuck out of our neighborhood. So there is the individual. You'll notice the same flannel shirt that you saw hanging out of the vehicle of the individual who was shot. You can see her here following around ICE agents and saying things like, get the bleep out of the. Our neighborhood. And again, perpendicularly parked in the street. Now, it's not clear as to whether this is one of those streets that has diagonal parking in it, but it does not appear based on how the sidewalk and the pavement is set up with, again, the layer of snow and ice on it, as though this is parked on the side of the street. And the reason I'm being very careful and precise here is that it is more important before we get to the where's the whys and the hows, that the pieces are set correctly. Because if we Start making assumptions right off the crack of the bat based on assuming, well, this, this vehicle was actually here. It wasn't here. She was in her car the entire time. She was just trying to drive through and they stopped her. That already is not the case. So far it appears based on the clothing, unless there is someone wearing the identical same brown shoes, black leggings and that shade of flannel, then gets into the maroon Honda Pilot. She's told to stop by officers, you hear three shots fired from the agent's handgun. And then the same thing. You hear the other woman who was screaming in the other video.

[Governor Tim Walz]

What the.

[Tony Kennett]

Now again, I'm a, a, a an important point. We have looked at the artifacts in these videos so far. The two videos that I have showed we know are not AI now that's, that's a terrible thing to have to get to right at the crack of the bat and say based on the artifact consistency in the video, these do not appear to be AI by the time we get through the end of tonight and tomorrow, I guarantee you AI footage that's getting a lot better day by day will saturate and ruin these conversations. So do yourself a favor right now. And this is, by the way, not just to you, this is absolutely to me. I actually have a note on my show, bullet outline that says check new videos for AI artifacts before reporting on them. Because we are getting into that. People are already making every claim in the world. The last angle that I have for you is from ABC5. It's a vertically filmed video. And it doesn't appear that ABC5 filmed the video, it just appears that they obtained rights to the video. And this is from a different angle. And you can actually see the agent that was, was somewhat sort of sideswiped, front swiped it on the front corner here by the lady driving the Honda Pilot by Renee Nicole Goode before he or as he shoots her with the handgun. This is slowed down so the audio is gonna sound a little distort. Okay, so those are the angles that we've seen so far. Now we're going to get into the analysis on this here in just a couple of minutes. But first on the line we have Ron Coleman, Brilliant legal mind, excellent podcast. We'll see if we can cut over to this. Now. Let's try that. Well, there we go.

[Ron Coleman]

What's the difference? So what's the difference really? Ron Coleman went to Princeton a few years before me.

[Tony Kennett]

Good evening, sir. Tell us, kind of right off the bat, what is your take on just this, this mess that we have here just right off the top kind of illegal, 30,000 foot view if you can, on, on what's going on.

[Ron Coleman]

Two main points. One, absolutely justified shooting, slam dunk. Two, federal agent cannot be, will not be prosecuted by the state of Minnesota for his conduct in this, in the course of his work. So it's going to be, it's going to the politics of it. You don't, you don't need, you know me for, but it's all about politics, right? These people have lost any part of it is the fault of Republicans and even this administration. They have really been playing patty cake with these people.

[Tony Kennett]

Patty cake for those who may be tuning in, maybe they're not as hooked into politics and they're, they're tuning into this. Give me, what do you mean by patty cake here?

[Ron Coleman]

For a year the, the Trump administration has been very, very delicate in playing in, in responding to acts of violence. They've, and I understand why, I understand the, the strategy. But what has they have emboldened. It's sort of like, I think a very good analogy is when you don't, when you take an antibiotic, you don't finish the course of treatment. You make a stronger bacteria. So they have, they've been doing things, they've been standing up in ways that the Biden administration definitely didn't do. But they have been reluctant to really make the kinds of arrests in riot situations. It's always been the marginal thing they can do. So people have been pushing on cars, jumping on top of cars, towing away. And in terms of local political leaders, mayors and like there's been, you know, they've threatened to cut off money. That's all abstract, that's remote. They're going to have to really start pushing. This is a civil war and you know, we, we can't lose it or we can, I mean, if they want Minnesota, I mean, frankly, of all the, you know, if they want to, if Minnesota wants to secede, that, that would be interesting.

[Tony Kennett]

Well, we'll get to. I haven't had a chance yet. We've just been going through. I wanted to show the footage first and then actually show kind of the responses because Governor Tim Wall's response has just been atrocious. I mean I've, I truly have never seen such a stupid, stupid response. And I mean to actually go forward and suggest, as he did, that the Minnesota National Guard might be deployed in opposition to federal troops. And he said, well, we've never been at war with the federal government until the last couple of days. My God, Seriously, I can't. Obviously he's in a middle of a major scandal with the fraud and he's looking for some kind of an. A social out. But what a thing to say. I mean, forget Fort Sumter vibes. This is, this is a Molotov cocktail through a window. And given that it's Minneapolis kind of apropos.

[Ron Coleman]

Well, yeah, I mean, you've nailed it. It is a cover for his, for his political disaster. He's wants to put himself into a position so that if he's charged with any crimes in connection with the, the massive Minneapolis fraud, that he can say, oh, this is, it's all political. I'm, I'm being selectively prosecuted. I'm not too worried about that. But I, and, and, and, and here the interesting thing is, ne, the more we've learned about the way they vote in Minneapolis and in Minnesota, the more we realize. If you've ever wondered why these are the people being elected from Minnesota, there's your answer. Because just how many Somalis would you have to import into Minnesota to turn them all into Democrats? The answer is not as many more than they have. So he doesn't even really have the support locally. It's all about the, you know, about the, the, you know, what is it they, they call 1-6-A.

[Tony Kennett]

I mean, it just. To me, they call it the darkest day in the history. In, in a, in a kind of a sense of, of dramatic irony here. You, you've heard of January 6th, now get ready for January 7th. But, but what's the, what's.

[Ron Coleman]

I mean, what's, what's the word that they.

[Tony Kennett]

Sacred?

[Ron Coleman]

No, no, if you're leading me.

[Tony Kennett]

I'm sorry, I'm not, I'm not complete.

[Ron Coleman]

Brain passing of gas here. A rebellion against the government.

[Tony Kennett]

Oh, okay. Yes. An insurrection.

[Ron Coleman]

The insurrection, right.

[Tony Kennett]

Yes.

[Ron Coleman]

This is literally, this is the insurrection. This is the insurrection. And it's. And the nodes of insurrection here are entirely top down.

[Tony Kennett]

So again, this is, this is something that's concerning to me, obviously, because it puts Minnesota National Guardsmen, it puts federal law enforcement, it puts bystanders at risk. And for those who don't quite understand or have never actually experienced seeing the National Guard or two opposing forces put up against each other. It's not like the Revolutionary War. They don't just line up in a field and shoot at each other. There's collateral damage. There's bystanders that get hurt. And one of the major concerns that I have are the innocent people that are in the law enforcement that are in the Minnesota National Guard that are the civilians who would be hurt in some kind of a standoff situation. But I want to get your take on this because I do think that you have a good insight into the motives that people often have. Obviously, if he orders, if he tries to mobilize the National Guard of Minnesota and he does so against law enforcement, that is clearly according to US Code. That is insurrection and it is sedition, clearly. I mean, without a doubt. And he should be arrested. But do you think that's part of what he's kind of going for? Do you think he's playing chicken to either get Trump to deploy the National Guard before he does, or on the other hand, is he trying to go for a perp walk over this and garner sympathy? Oh, look, Trump's being political. What do you think?

[Ron Coleman]

All right, so, so, I mean, let's take a step back. Waltz is not a mastermind of political strategy.

[Tony Kennett]

You don't say. You're telling me Mr. Pick Six Super Command Sergeant, Super Duper Corporal Major Sergeant isn't a political mastermind. No.

[Ron Coleman]

Right. He's, he's flailing. But I, but I think he's going to, what he, what I think he's going to find is that he's not going to get thrown any lifelines by people in the Democratic Party that they might have more interest in this guy Fry, who is really, really repulsive also. But I, I don't believe, I mean, look, he can't, you cannot use. There could be nothing better for Donald Trump than for Tim Walsh to try to activate the, the Minneapolis National Guard. In fact, having already said that was the dumbest, I don't think he gave it any thought. And I don't think that that was an, that was not pocus grouped. That, that, that, that was came from the depths of his 1445 IQ brain. Really stupid. I mean, it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't get better than that in terms of gifts.

[Tony Kennett]

Well, and we'll, we'll definitely cover that as, as best we can because we are going to go through all of Tim Wall's little press conference foibles today. I'm trying to do this in the right order just transparently here. As a guy who also does a show, you know, how, how anal.

[Ron Coleman]

I have no idea. You're immensely more, you're immensely more experienced than I am. And also, you're doing something kind of live, which I hardly ever do. Listen, you walk me through the problem is in my ADHD brain, I make all kinds of Connections and things don't always come up in logical order, you and I both.

[Tony Kennett]

So let's, let's draw a connection here, here real quick, before we actually get back to some of the core analysis of the entire event here, to the riots of 2020, the summer of love. The situation right now regarding potential riots in Minneapolis. Of course, if we're going to get to Nick Sorter was already reporting Blackhawks and actually zooming in shows they're not just news choppers or lifeline medical choppers. They do appear to be military craft that are in the air in Minneapolis. There are some interesting things on flight radar, as there always are when people look at flight radar in tumultuous times. Do you think that we're going to see the fair weather factor come in? It's supposed to be 25 tonight. Right now, I believe it's 31 in Minneapolis and sinking quickly. Do you think that that's going to temper at 6:25pm east or, excuse me, 6:25pm Central, 7:25pm Eastern. Will that temper any protests or do you think that we could see some burning down of autozones that we witnessed during the George Floyd riots?

[Ron Coleman]

Yeah, I have no reason to think that will, I mean, temper protests. People who live in Minnesota are used to cold weather. They are out. Remember that most of these people are professional, professional agitators. They're all, they were provided with, with tents and sleeping bags during the long hot summer. Weather's not going to be a factor. No, they definitely want to, I, I think they definitely want to get something going here because they're desperate. The, the racket, their racket is coming apart at the seams.

[Tony Kennett]

This is the last question that I have. And then we, unfortunately, we do have to kind of get back and look at some of this footage a little more closely and pick apart some of these claims. What I know that you have, you've looked at in the past. Again, although you, you play yourself down, you really do have a great handle on the legal process of things that need to take place. If Trump is going to invoke to the Insurrection act, how long does that take? What does that entail? And what could be an eventful occurrence while the Insurrection act is being invoked?

[Ron Coleman]

This is something that as far as I know has not happened during my lifetime, my very long lifetime. If the president were to issue a decree invoking, invoking or an executive order, I don't know what form it would take exactly. I'm sure they don't really know in the White House Counsel office. I've got friends in there. They don't talk to me, but I imagine they're asking, what would this look like? Do we put sealing wax on it? But if he were to invoke, would give him powers to deploy resources that he, that he doesn't have now. And it will only be a matter of minutes before some judge.

[Tony Kennett]

Oh, you think federal judges are standing by to issue, like, an emergency stay?

[Ron Coleman]

Sure.

[Tony Kennett]

Can they issue a stay on the Insurrection Act?

[Ron Coleman]

No, no, but they, but, but there's a lot of things that they can't do that they, that they're doing all the time these days.

[Tony Kennett]

I do think that SCOTUS would, would be also kind of standing by. Do you think Clarence Thomas is like, come on, gang, let's get over to SCOTUS and see if there's any judge that flips any switches?

[Ron Coleman]

Yeah, no, no, There, there's no, there's no. I mean, look, Min. Minnesota is not Washington. I mean, I'm sure they have some loopy judges there. It's, it's not, you know, it's not.

[Tony Kennett]

Boston, but it might be Mogadishu to be fair.

[Ron Coleman]

Right. But I, The. To my knowledge, they don't have anyone on the bench yet. It would only have been a matter of time. But I don't think we're going to get there now. I think we're okay. I think I, I do think they're going to try the, the judge move. Everything that they have tried really has failed. They want to force. This is my political take. They want to force. This has been the goal since the inauguration.

[Tony Kennett]

Do you mean they as in the judges? Do you mean they as in the DNC or the Trump administration?

[Ron Coleman]

The, the adversaries of our country. Okay, who run who, who, who, who operate through the Democratic Party.

[Tony Kennett]

Gotcha.

[Ron Coleman]

Are interested in forcing a violent confrontation. That is what they want. And that's why the Trump administration has been playing patty cake, as you explained to your, to your listeners, while they're.

[Tony Kennett]

Just telling people to get back instead of arresting every person. Like when, like, for example, at the DNC in 24, when I was on the ground with Julio Rosas. I remember you and I actually got to talk about this afterward. The Chicago police had no problem getting in there and saying, all right, congratulations, all 20, you know, to 40 people in this one little zone, you're now all arrested. The Trump administration hasn't really done that with ICE or dhs. You know that it's really hard to.

[Ron Coleman]

Do when you don't have Local support and. But they're going to have to do it. And what the Democrats don't realize is because they're so. Their heads are so far up their own behinds, you can tell that I know on radio is that they, they don't realize just how out of step they are with the vast majority of Americans, including minorities. Look how badly they called the Hispanic reaction, the Latino reaction to Venezuela. They don't know anything but what the most radical people on their side tell them. They want this confrontation desper. I think eventually they're going to have to. We're going to have to give it to him.

[Tony Kennett]

Ron Coleman again, incredible work. Go follow him over on X at Ron Coleman. R O N C O L E M A N Sir, thank you very much. We have to, unfortunately, yeah. Dig back into this and we'll catch you real soon.

[Ron Coleman]

Have fun.

[Tony Kennett]

All right, let's dig into some of the specific instances on the claims that are being made. So immediately we got all of the social media posts from everyone who was an expert on human rights and international law with Venezuela. Everyone immediately pivoted to being an expert on forensic crime scene investigation. And so first we had the statement from the Department of Homeland Security that said today officers in Minneapolis were conducting a targeted operation when rioters began blocking ICE officers. And one of these violent rioters weaponized her vehicle. This is something that we have seen before. There have been individuals who have driven U haul trucks at police or in law enforcement like ice. They have driven their vehicles, they've tried to run them off the road. They have just T boned, they have sideswiped, they have tried to awkwardly just block the vehicles into a lane next to maybe a concrete median and then have left the vehicle and run off giggling like Stewie and Family Guy. And so, so far, saying they've weaponized her vehicle. That is something the Homeland Security Department does have experience in categorizing. Then, quote, attempting to run over our law enforcement officers in an attempt to kill them. M dash an act of domestic terrorism. An ICE officer, fearing for his life, the lives of his fellow law enforcement, and the safety of the public, fired defensive shots. Those are the three shots that we heard. He used his training and saved his own life and that of his fellow officers. The alleged perpetrator was hit and is deceased. The ICE officers who were hurt are expected to make full recoveries. And then they issue a kind of a casi bell. They say, this is why this situation is occurring. And we're going to leave that for just a second because I want to look at the claims, everything including the little rating proposed community notes. The, the, the community fact checking mechanism on X and on other social media is based around why the officer fired shots and was the intent of the driver to run over the agent who ended up firing the three shots from his handgun. We're going to take a look at that because again it matters and I don't have a timer on the show. Not trying to waste your guys time. So we're going to get right into it. I looked at this footage for about an hour this afternoon because I want the right answers. People like Ilhan Omar got up in front of the country immediately, immediately wasted no time at all saying Homeland Security is lying. Just says you're lying. There was no attempt to run over the officer and no ICE agents appear to be hurt. Get out of our city. So let's look at the claim here. Now I have a piece of footage here. The claim made that the lady tried to run over federal officers and that the officer she was trying to run over fired defensive shots, one of which hit her and killed her. That's the claim that is made. And then the officer being hurt. I'm going to be honest with you guys. The idea is to whether or not we're going to argue kind of like sympathy tokenage as to whether an officer was, was hit by the vehicle and then, then injured or not. We will get to a little bit. We're not going to spend as much time with that one and I'll explain why. So clip three. So here's the footage. You know, I recognize that I'm violating a rule by covering up part of my face. We'll move it to the side here. So you see the agents speaking to the driver. According to earlier footage she was outside of her vehicle and walking around with her phone talking to ICE individuals. So this is not somebody that was that was driving through the area. I do not know what kind of vehicle. The tan Chevy. It looks like a Chevy Blazer. That is in front. I don't know if that was owned by ice. I don't know if that's a civilian vehicle. Maybe fellow protester, bystander. I have no idea what it looks like. Is that the car is at a 30 degree angle, 45 degree angle, maybe in the middle of the street. Not in like a parking line maneuver. No shit. Okay. She starts to accelerate and turns her wheel as she spins out. Now there's slower slow motion footage that shows that between the 2 second timestamp and the 3 second timestamp in this video that she is spinning out. She is flooring it. I nor you have any idea which direction her head is facing when she's doing this. And that matters. We'll get to that in a second. So you can see there are three, four ICE agents in this photo. There's one ICE agent that is on the left, one ICE agent that is on the right and is approaching either the back right door or the passenger door. There is a third ICE agent that is pulling on the driver handle and trying to get her to get out of the vehicle. And there is another ICE agent behind him whom the car is pointed at. So here it is zoomed in a little bit. This was me. So excuse the perhaps poor video editing. Now, two things that matter. Number one, which direction is the vehicle pointing? The currently at this time, the vehicle is pointing towards the ICE agent in front of the vehicle. He is standing in front of the vehicle to say, you're not going anywhere. Stop. You're under arrest. You have done something. Law enforcement, whether they be federal, state or local, is asking you to stop and get out of the car. Now, ICE agents admittedly have dropped the you need to get out of the car, ma'. Am. And they have resorted to what I like to call military police friendliness, which is get the out of the car right now. And she responds questionably. There's the other ICE agent. You can see is his eyes and not, not wearing the toboggan. She floors it and then turns the wheel. She spins out. As she does so, he fires a shot through the front windshield. We'll talk about the front windshield here in a minute. And then fires two more rounds as she is is driving through. It appears that he hit her in the first shot through the windshield. That also matters. We'll talk about that in a second. The following two shots are being raked over the coals. Now, I'm going to play this one more time because I want you to get a feel for how quick this all happened. From her gunning it to him. Firing three rounds takes exactly 2 1/2 seconds on the dot. 2 1/2 seconds exactly. That is a very quick reaction time. Again, car agent gunning it, spinning the wheels, hits her, loses control. Okay, now the last claim that was made by ICE is that an officer was hit. We can't really see from that angle if the officer was hit, but this is where the ABC5 footage comes into play. So you can see that Chevy Blazer that I'm talking about. Again, it may not be a Blazer, Sorry, I don't know all the models of Chevy, you can see the officer that is standing in the distance. It's a little hard to make out, kind of difficult to see. I'll try to zoom in here with the power of obs. She drives forward and you can see right there that the car does make contact with the ice agent. He's kind of doing a forward lunge into the vehicle. By the way, if you have ever made the mistake of putting pressure on someone in football or wrestling practice, especially who is doing a kind of forward lunge pose, you can very easily tear all kinds of stuff in their legs. I don't know about y'.

[Governor Tim Walz]

All.

[Tony Kennett]

I remember my coach talking about that specifically. I'm just saying, if we are making a claim about an officer injury, right there is an opportunity for the officer to have been injured by a Honda pilot. Now there, there was a rather humorous comment because people are saying it's ridiculous to think that this officer was, you know, was, was heard in any reason whatsoever. Oh, it's ridiculous. Oilfield Rando over on X, who I follow, pointed out after Tim Miller, host of the Bulwark podcast and a big goober, Tim Miller had made the claim, said they're going to try to tell you that a masked officer shooting into the side window of a 37 year old lady's Honda pilot was doing so out of fear for his life. As Oilfield Randall points out, a Honda Pilot weighs 4,500 pounds. That's 21 4th tons. Now if for, you know, whatever reason you're Canadian or outside of the United States and you've never been to the moon, I'm not going to convert that into haven't been to the moon measurements, but that is rather heavy and an SUV is a heavy vehicle. So injury claim, I'm going to say based on this footage, looks very plausible. And she hits him. He then moves out of the way of the vehicle as he's being hit on the front corner. We've seen this multiple times. Please don't try this at home. But if you wanted to, if you were an idiot and you really wanted to make the next Ouchie of the week award with Wes and his, you know, funk FPV channel, then you could stand at the corner of a vehicle and as it moved forward, it would push you out of the way. And as a little fun fact here, the reason that a lot of law enforcement, when they're pushing through a crowd, pushes you at the hip and is because if you receive pressure on your hip. That is a great way for your, your, your PNs, not your central nervous system, but your peripheral nervous system will automatically start to move out of the way. Here's what the officer did. He fires a shot through the front window. I believe that I do have the picture of the windshield that has a clean bullet hole. That is an entry impact bullet hole, not an after the side impact bullet hole, which is what a lot of people are claiming, that he fired a shot through her windshield while he was firing the three shots through her side window. That does not appear to be the case. And then the rest is the slow motion footage. Now again, the reason that I am taking the time to go through the footage so slowly, although I do not like making you essentially watch a video and where you know an individual is dying in the video, it is very important to know what the claims are that are being made because immediately the claims that you saw from people like Ilhan Omar. Tina Smith, the senator from Minnesota, a US citizen has apparently been shot by ICE agents in Minneapolis. I'm gathering information but the situation on the ground is volatile. ICE should leave now for everyone's safety. So immediately Tina Smith blames the ICE agent. Ilhan Omar calls ICE and Department of Homeland Security liars. Tim Walls initially said that my safety, my public safety team is working to gather information on an ICE related shooting this morning. We will share information as we learn more. In the meantime, I ask folks to remain calm. He does not ask folks to remain calm for long. Now I'll show the Trump response in a minute. Walls also responded not to trust the videos that were going around because that, that's propaganda. Don't get out there. You know, people are trying to tell you that the ICE officer acted in self defense and that's wrong. Based on the footage that we have seen right here on the footage that has been provided, it is clear that the vehicle moved, it spun its tires moving towards the ICE agent. Now here's the problem. We don't see which way the lady's head is turned. The reason that matters, whether this is attempted murder or attempted manslaughter, in this case, driving recklessly. If you are in an area with a lot of people, for example, if I'm, if I'm in a red light and then I, the light turns green and not looking up from my phone, I gun it, pedal to the metal, I just go State Road 3, New Castle, 2am Just out of the Taco Bell, I'm just going to go for it. And I hit a pedestrian. I'M charged with manslaughter. Doesn't matter that I wasn't looking, that I wasn't trying to hit anybody. If there are pedestrians around and you hit one with your car or you come close to hitting one with your car, you can be charged with attempted or reckless driving that could have led to manslaughter. The charges vary in state to state. A lot of different ways that we have flavored the term and put qualifiers on the term manslaughter. That aside, if she was facing the officer, the idea that she turned her wheel also has a couple of different ways out of it. Did she turn her wheel because she was trying to avoid hitting the officer who was in front of the vehicle and therefore was just trying to escape, possibly being arrested or detained by law enforcement? Or was when she essentially panicking and turning to the right, seeing the officer pull her gun, did she pull to the right on the steering wheel in order to kind of change momentum or as she was shot, she kind of leaned into it and came back out? We don't know. We don't know. And based on the information that we have so far, the only thing I am going to make the case of is that all of the individuals who are. Are making this woman out to be an angel, the next George Floyd, Jill Floyd, as it were, is, Is wholly inappropriate because we do have the before footage. We do have the before footage as to what she was doing before we even get to the event itself. She's following ICE around and she's harassing them. She's there to be a protester again. If the, if it is true that the vehicle had Missouri plates, then also why are you there now? You can move to a city and, you know, not have the right plates for a while. Heck, my plates on my Corolla are expired because I stripped the screws in the license plate right now. You know what? Sometimes that's the way that is. But there are some extenuating circumstances here that are rather strange. Now, we do have some footage of this particular lady, this. Renee. Renee Nicole Goode. Because of what she was wearing. There has been an active operation all day on left wing activist groups and yesterday as well, following ICE around and harassing them. And Tim Walls and by the way, Mayor Jacob Frey of Minneapolis have encouraged people to do that very thing. I believe that we do it. Maybe it's. I want to make sure it is. It's clip 11. Here we go. So you can see her following around ICE agents. Get the. Out of our neighborhood. The. You just all Right. So again, I don't know all of the various ins and outs of the situation. I just making the case as of right now that it doesn't appear that this individual, now if this isn't the individual that was wearing the flannel that was shot and this was another person at the location, someone completely different, and this was a person driving through. Again, more questions have to be raised. So the thing to do right now is be patient and wait for some more investigation. I think that that's a good idea. What has been the most irresponsible move of the day has been to violently escalate the situation. And I do want to make it clear the escalation has been violent. So immediately crowds showed up and started doing what left wing protesters and then rioters do, setting fire to the American flag for one.

[News Reporter]

I want to jump in here. I want to ask you where you're at right now. And we're seeing the images on the screen. There's that flag you were talking about being burned here. What kind of things are they shouting?

[Tony Kennett]

The crowd that's out there? I know they're obviously not happy. ICE is there.

[News Reporter]

They've been talking about that.

[Tony Kennett]

What are they saying? You know, what's the energy like where.

[News Reporter]

You are right now?

[Tony Kennett]

So that's over on, on, on Newsmax there they were covering this. That particular footage sent over. The situation deteriorated rather quickly. This, this footage from Fox News shows some brawls breaking out between ICE and other federal law enforcement. Who's on the ground and of course the protesters. And then once you assault law enforcement, you become rioters in Minneapolis. Get out. Mark Press.

[Governor Tim Walz]

Get out.

[Ron Coleman]

Out the way. Get out the way of the truck.

[Tony Kennett]

Now. The, the low thumps that you are hearing, those are snowballs that are hitting the vehicles. And reportedly I do not have confirmation on this. I have received a comment from an individual on the inside of Department of Homeland Security on the ground in Minneapolis. Not from someone who was on the scene, but someone who is at the office in which a lot of the Department of Homeland Security officials are located, that there were rocks thrown as well. Rocks thrown or a snowball containing rocks. That's attempted murder. Throwing a snowball. Nah, throwing a rock. Attempted murder. Throwing a subway sandwich. No. Throwing a rock. Yes. Not something that you can do. Now, I understand that in Somalian culture, stoning is quite common here in the United States. We don't really prefer to do that again though, being that Minneapolis and Mogadishu are rather facsimiles these days, you know, so this Brings us over to the riots that are starting to form. So we saw an individual who went up and assaulted a federal official, received a very pleasant bit of pepper spray right to the face. I don't, I think we have that particular footage. Yes, here it is. And it's, it's a, it seems to be some type of popping round just right to the jaw. Oof. They're stumbling around and enjoying the wonderful spiciness that is pepper spray with a nice, lovely orange dye. I'm RFK Jr. Got to get the dye removed from the tear gas, man, you never know what that could do. Then, of course, the, one of the ugliest scenes, I think we have this full screen up as well. A large crowd of individuals that chased state, federal and local law enforcement out of the area. So according to the, the news anchor, I believe, from one of the affiliates in Minnesota.

[Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez]

Well, okay, it looks like they are throwing snowballs as.

[Tony Kennett]

Look at that crowd. Look at that crowd. This is Fox 5, or, excuse me, Fox 9 in Minneapolis. That large crowd, you can see them chasing vehicles out of the area. Not just ice vehicles, by the way. They are chasing Minnesota state troopers.

[Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez]

Okay. It looks like they are throwing snowballs as the officers are leaving. So again, I believe it was a state patrol and we did see some MPD officers who were leaving that scene.

[Tony Kennett]

That would be local officers, metropolitan Police Department officials, or Minneapolis Police Department, Hennepin.

[Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez]

County, telling us that their sheriff's deputies have not been on that scene. But it looks like as officers are leaving the scene, just having some protesters or bystanders, agitators throwing some snowballs at them as they leave. We saw this earlier. We did.

[Tony Kennett]

So some of those, again, I, I've seen some of the initial analysis. I personally do not believe that the resolution of the footage is good enough yet to say, oh, that was a rock, not a snowball. I, I, I'm, Again, I've shared the only source that I have with you inside the Department of Homeland Security right now in Minneapolis who has suggested that they believe some rocks were thrown. I don't know if that's one of the times that there were just being transparent with y', all, then I have less to apologize for later. Andy Ngo has shown with his typical incredible network the emergency vigil, which has been called so 5pm Central Time. That's just over 50 minutes ago. That East 34th street and Portland Avenue South. If you are listening to the show from Minneapolis, stay away from East 34th street and Portland Avenue South. Don't go near it. If you're an independent journalist and you're a friend of mine. I know there are some out there. Do not go out there unless you are well protected. I very much recommend wearing a plate carrier and also I hope that you have some security with you. That is going to be a dangerous place to be. So left wing networks are already getting out there and making it clear that they call it a vigil. You and I know it's not going to be what the Democrats did yesterday, where they got out on the steps of the Capitol and, you know, got out there and sang God Bless America. This would theoretically be a vigil. That would be a vigil.

[News Reporter]

I want to jump in here.

[Tony Kennett]

I want to ask you, earning flags, attacking law enforcement, okay? Chasing law enforcement. That's not a vigil. That's not a vigil. Don't mess with this. Now. The response from local officials as well as national officials has been truly atrocious. One other statement from the president because it fits with just this initial viewing of the evidence here before we get into some of the nitty gritty stuff. And I will have to scoop out the commercial really quickly just because I'll get in trouble otherwise. President Donald Trump has posted about this and said, I have just viewed the clip of the event which took place in Minneapolis, Minnesota. It is a horrible thing to watch. The woman screaming was obviously a professional agitator. And the woman driving the car, he seems to differentiate between the two. Maybe the lady in the flannel was the one that was doing the screaming. The one in the car, different individual was driving the car, very disorderly, obstructing and resisting, who then violently, willfully and viciously ran over the ICE officer who seems to have shot her in self defense. Based on the attached clip, and it's the clip that I'd shown you, it is hard to believe that he, the officer is alive but is now recovering in the hospital. The situation is being studied in its entirety. But the reason these incidents are happening is because the radical left is threatening, assaulting and targeting our law enforcement officers and ICE agents on, on a daily basis. They are just trying to do the job of making America safe. We need to stand by and protect our law enforcement officers from this radical left movement of violence and hate. Now we go back to the original analysis by the Department of Homeland Security. Quote, this is a direct consequence of constant attacks and demonization of our officers by sanctuary politicians like Jacob Frey in Minneapolis, who we'll play in a second, who fuel and encourage rampant assaults on our law enforcement, who are facing a 1300. That is a 1300% increase in assaults against them and an 8000% increase in death threats. This is an evolving situation and we will give the public more information as soon as it becomes available. I would likely expect some type of communication, perhaps from the Department of Homeland Security's Tricia McLaughlin if that comes. We will notify you as soon as it happens. Now, it is important to note two things. First of all, both sides of the situation have already 100% assigned direct accusatory motive. And so the pieces are already set on the board. Number two, what ICE was doing in Minneapolis before we even get to this shooting today was upholding federal law. You as a state do not have the constitutional authority to obstruct, to obscure, to advise against the upholding of federal law. That includes immigration law. To the congressmen and women who have issued statements from New York to Minnesota to California, all the way down to Texas, all the way up to Maine. And the guy, the guy with a Nazi tattoo that's running for the Senate up in Maine, Graham, what's his face when you get out and make these claims already here to go. You as congressmen and women or candidates for Congress, you have the authority to change the law. Now, the president has prosecutorial discretion, meaning how hard he can pursue upholding federal law. But Congress and again, states don't. States can't say boo about this. And the reason states can't say boo about this is that in the Constitution it was set up, it was argued very clearly in the Federalist Papers that people in their own state congressional districts appointed and written and drawn by state legislatures, those people would send representatives to Congress based on the state population drawn up by state legislatures and then the state senators and legislatures themselves who would then elect senators to Congress. Now that's a popular vote, but it is still a measure of the state would endorse federal law. Federal law is by its very nature endorsed by state and local law. It's a contract that was fought over fiercely during the Civil War. And that matters. We're going to get back to that in just a second. We have to hop out and pick up the crews from commercial. Don't go anywhere. We have a lot to cover. It's the Tony Kinnett cast here on the Daily Signal. It's the Tony Kennett cast on 93 WYBC. Welcome back to the Tony Kennett cast where everyone out there is making all of the assertions as though they know. So one of the common assertions that I have Heard about this particular situation is that the federal agents told the lady obstructing traffic in the the 30 degree angle. They told her to leave. And so she was just trying to leave. The video evidence does not show that she spun out, she threw her tire, she floored it. And by the way, how do I know this? Because if she was just like driving sort of away after she was shot, her vehicle then continued with that initial momentum at the pace of a release of pressure on the gas pedal until she rear ended the sedan. You've driven a car, you know, revving up your engine in an initial thrust that gives a certain amount of momentum that's going to come out of that. That doesn't play. Also, the argument that has been made that the officer shot a bunch of shots through the window as she was leaving, also not true. The very first round has been shown to go through the front windshield. The kind of hole was left. That is a front windshield shot. It looks different. It's an angled piece of glass. The ballistics look rather different when it's going in this way as opposed to going out this way. So that matters. Flip that. Going in this way as opposed to coming out this way. Now let's get to some of the reaction right now. Governor Tim Walls has called for protesting in Minnesota out on the streets, which is a choice for sure.

[Governor Tim Walz]

To Minnesotans, I say this, I feel your anger. I'm angry.

[Tony Kennett]

They want to show so Walls gets out already assigns guilt and blame. He says I'm angry. He already just like George Floyd, I know what happened immediately. This is clearly what happened There to blame. I'm angry just like you. Meaning you are justified to blame Immigration Customs Enforcement. You are justified to blame the Trump administration with this judge jury execution already done.

[Governor Tim Walz]

We can't give it to him. We cannot. If you protest and express your first amendment rights, please do so peacefully as you always do.

[Tony Kennett]

We wild statement express your peaceful protest rights. Minnesota people like you always do. No, no. Minnesota burnt down in 2020 because of George Floyd and ransacked and looted businesses. Already this evening we're getting ready to show you the footage of it. People already getting into the riot Minnesota.

[Governor Tim Walz]

Mood can't give them what they want. The hearts and minds of the people in this state are on our side. To Americans, I ask you this. Please stand with Minneapolis.

[Tony Kennett]

That's a national call to Minnesotans.

[Governor Tim Walz]

Know that our administration is going to stop at nothing to seek accountability and justice. The state Bureau of Criminal Apprehension are working on the investigation. We have activated the state emergency Operations center.

[Tony Kennett]

That's going to matter here in a.

[Governor Tim Walz]

Second State Patrol, Minnesota National Guard leadership is connected with the Minneapolis Police Department, the St. Paul Police Department, Hennepin County Sheriff's Office, the DNR, and Minnesota's Homeland Security and Emergency Management.

[Tony Kennett]

So he has made it very clear right off the bat, he is excluding federal law enforcement and any federal agency. Any federal agency, period, is making it clear right now that Minnesota is not going to work at all with any federal law enforcement official. This is one of the reasons that this entire mess happened in the first place. As we talked about with Ron Coleman, no coordination with local law enforcement. They refuse to recognize that federal law must be enforced, just like local or state law. So he's already cut him off and then he starts making some rather interesting statements about the National Guard.

[Governor Tim Walz]

We have activated dozens of members of the State Patrol's mobile response team.

[Tony Kennett]

State Patrol, I'm told, is the State Police, Minnesota thing. I guess police is too harsh a word for him.

[Governor Tim Walz]

And from here on, I have a very simple message. We do not need any further help from the federal government. To Donald Trump and Kristi Noem. You've done enough.

[Tony Kennett]

Laying the blame at Kristi Noem and Donald Trump. By the way, as a reminder, as a reminder, when the conversation of rhetoric comes into the public discourse, when we talk about assigning guilt immediately, calling people Nazis, fascists, encouraging violence, this is a clear example. He makes it clear Kristi Noem and Donald Trump are the ones who killed the woman in the car. That is what he is directly implying.

[Governor Tim Walz]

There's nothing more important than Minnesotan safety. I've issued a warning order to prepare.

[Tony Kennett]

The Minnesota National Guard that's very, very concerning.

[Governor Tim Walz]

We have soldiers in training and prepared to be deployed if necessary.

[Tony Kennett]

Now we're getting into some really dangerous territory.

[Governor Tim Walz]

I remind you, a warning order is a heads up for folks. And these National Guard troops are our National Guard troops.

[Tony Kennett]

So then he makes the case that Minnesota, his office, is in control of the National Guard. Now, again, you've heard me say on the show before, if you've tuned in to us before, as of the 1930s, no, the National Defense Acts, plural, from World War I through the end of World War II, made it explicitly clear that the federal government has preeminent power over the state National Guard. And it was used dozens of times, dozens of times, not just in places like the civil rights movement in Alabama, but in Indiana, in Appalachia, with revolts in manufacturing and coal mining. There are a number of times, many, many times that the National Guard has been called against the will of the state governor. He's making it clear he's drawing a line in the sand right now. We are the Minnesota National Guard. It's our National Guard. Now, you could look at this a different way, given the benefit of the doubt. Hard to do with Tim Walls, but you could give him the benefit of the doubt and suggest, well, he's really concerned because he saw the people throwing snowballs and possibly rocks at not just ice, but also the Minneapolis Police Department and state patrol vehicles. Again, counting on the identification of those vehicles and officers by Fox 9 in Minneapolis. That's a stretch.

[Governor Tim Walz]

There are teachers in your community. They're business owners. They're construction professionals. They are Minnesotans.

[Tony Kennett]

Now, this is a serious issue. I have a serious issue with this particular line. It is. It is factually correct.

[Ron Coleman]

Correct.

[Tony Kennett]

Circle gets the square, but he doesn't get to run that. He doesn't get to trot that out. Because when the California National Guard was deployed to Los Angeles, what was it called? It was called an invasion of thuggish troops. When the Minnesota National Guard is to be deployed to Minnesota, it. The idea. It's an invasion. Oh, he wants to invade. That doesn't make any sense. Your state's National Guard is made up of citizens and residents seeking nationalization. Naturalization from your state. They serve at the. At the request of the adjutant general of the National Guard, Army, Air Force, Navy in your state. That is how that goes. That is how that proceeds. And Tim Walls making the case here that they're normal people. Yes, Correct. He doesn't want people to attack the Minnesota National Guard if he deploys them. Again, very, very concerning.

[Governor Tim Walz]

Minnesota will not allow our community to be used as a prop in a national political fight.

[Tony Kennett]

That he says right after talking about the National Guard. So he says, I'm not. I have the National Guard. Here they are. And then he postures. So he says, here are the pieces I have on the board. I'm not going to allow the federal government to do xyz.

[Governor Tim Walz]

We will not take the bait. We will continue to update you, Minnesota, as we get more information. Now, I'd like to turn it over.

[Tony Kennett]

To commissioner now there as he turns it over, things do start to fall apart. So immediately, individuals attempt to storm the Minneapolis federal courthouse. You can hear they're chanting, ice out now. So from this point, the question then becomes, how is Tim Walls going to bring forth some of this really strong leadership? What about Jacob Frey? The answer is they don't. They don't at all. It is embarrassing. It is awful and it is pathetic. It is a truly terrible situation and it's really going to get worse. So first of all, the Minneapolis police chief also gets out in front of the people and just decides to assign right away whether something happened before any kind of investigation. He's already decided who is guilty.

[Ron Coleman]

I am obviously very concerned that I have been told that a woman who.

[Tony Kennett]

Was sitting in her car blocking the street, sitting in her car, blocking the street. That would be illegal and not the.

[Ron Coleman]

Target of any enforcement activity is now deceased.

[Tony Kennett]

Okay, to make this very clear, if you obstruct law enforcement, you try to prevent law enforcement from upholding the law, you show up to some kind of a federal officer and you start yelling, hey, you can't park there, then that officer is going to make you a part of the problem. You can't do that. The idea that you can interfere with law enforcement, because that's some kind of like noble protesting, right? That's not what protesting means. Blocking the street, not what protesting means. That's not a thing. Just because some middle aged, menopausal, left wing, angry woman who has love lives here. Hate has no home here. We believe in science and we hate racism. Has that, that sign in her yard tells you that? Oh yeah, you can totally just park anywhere you want and chase around ICE agents and yell at them. That's not a thing you can do. It's not legal. You can't obstruct federal law enforcement. That's the chief of police in Minneapolis. So again, Tim Walls then moves, he comes back as governor and then starts saying some rather, rather concerning stuff. He tells federal law enforcement to stay out.

[Governor Tim Walz]

Simple message, we do not need any further help from the federal government. To Donald Trump and Kristi Noem, you've done enough.

[Tony Kennett]

What he follows that up with, though, after talking about the National Guard may be one of the most concerning statements from a governor in recent years.

[Governor Tim Walz]

Well, I said this yesterday. We've never been at war with our federal government.

[Tony Kennett]

I'm sorry? We've never been at war with our federal government.

[Governor Tim Walz]

This yesterday. We've never been at war with our federal government. I think in this case that the National Guard is, is their main mission. They have a dual mission. There's, there's.

[Tony Kennett]

There's an argument to be made here that Tim Walls suggested, both here and in prior statements, that he is, is prepared to use the Minnesota National Guard against federal law enforcement. By definition, by the statutes, that is a. If he were to activate the Minnesota National Guard against federal law Enforcement to try to prevent them from going a certain place by obstructing or, by obstructing law enforcement or facilitating crime in any way, shape or form. That would be an act of insurrection and sedition. And he should be arrested immediately if that take place. To have a state governor say, well, I mean, you know, we've never been at war with the federal government, but very concerning stuff. Very, very concerning stuff. Now, Nick Sordor points out, based on a video that and I referenced this in our conversation with Ron Coleman, there are Black Hawk helicopters that are already flying over Minneapolis. Now, looking at helicopters from a distance, there appears to be one Black Hawk that was spotted. Another appears to be either a federal or a military marked helicopter. I'm not going to get into kind of an air show. That's just what's being reported on the ground. That brings us over to the mayor of Minneapolis, the man who is going to have the most direct contact at this present time. Jacob Frey just comes right out and.

[Jacob Frey]

Says it, but I do have a message for our community, for our city, and I have a message for ICE to ice, get the fuck out of Minneapolis.

[Tony Kennett]

He's gonna use his big boy words. He's gonna use his big boy words. You see this with the Democrats quite often in city or state, federal official leadership. They get out there when they're mad, they use their big boy words. And he does, he's saying, ice, get out again, Federal law enforcement has the authority. People running around on social media going, well, actually ICE doesn't have the authority to make traffic stops. Yes, they do. Yes, they do. Federal law enforcement has the authority to make those stops. And the reason you haven't seen a ton of it in the last 20, 30, 40, 50 years. Now, if you go back far enough and you really have seen it, but the reason you don't normally see it, but the DEA made traffic stops in the 90s all the time. All the time. Bill Clinton sent out more DEA agents in Ford Crown Royale than like any President, that man dispatched the d. I mean, goodness grace, you could probably point out that half of the, the Biggie Smalls and Tupac songs in existence actually came directly out of Bill Clinton sending the DEA out and Reagan as well. Go, my children, go. Yeah, they can make traffic stops. ICE can absolutely as well, 100%, wholly able to do so. And by the way, not only are they upholding immigration law, Congress gave them the money to hire additional agents. Your representatives voted to fund that measure. Congress has already approved it. The states cannot say boo about it. Now, from that point forward, I want to point out, because we've. We've made the. The allegation before that for weeks, Jacob Frey has been inciting this violence and making it clear they wouldn't allow ICE to operate in Minneapolis. They have made it clear agitation and protest and obstruction of justice is the order of the day in Minneapolis and Minnesota at large. Sanctuary policies, no questions.

[Jacob Frey]

I am increasingly concerned because of the chaos that is being caused by these ICE agents, that somebody is going to get seriously injured or killed. Somebody is going to get seriously injured or killed. And whether that is an ICE agent or a community member.

[Tony Kennett]

Member.

[Jacob Frey]

We all know the tinderbox that could explode because of it. We all know that the federal government is looking for reasons to deploy more and more people to Minneapolis and blue cities around the country. We all know that we cannot afford to lose a single Minneapolis resident because they showed up and decided to protect their neighborhood neighbors. Because they showed up and decided to express their constitutional right to free speech.

[Tony Kennett]

Yeah, you can't conflate those. So calling this in advance, Frey makes it very clear. You always like, oh, man, you. You can't just show up and arrest people for obstructing justice. Yeah, you can. You can't. There is no legal pathway here that makes any sense whatsoever. But yet Frey makes that particular claim, makes it loudly. Now, there are two things that have occurred in kind of an update since. So first, Governor Tim Walz, recognizing that it's very likely Trump might call in the National Guard first, is begging people now, sort of awkwardly half begging people not to riot, because he knows that if they do, Trump's going to invoke the Insurrection Act.

[Governor Tim Walz]

Minnesotans, don't take the bait. Do not take the bait. Do not allow them to deploy federal troops into here. Do not allow them to invoke the Insurrection Act. Do not allow them to declare martial law. Do not.

[Tony Kennett]

Why would you have to tell people this, by the way? Why would you. Why would you have to tell people out there in the wild blue yonder? Why would you have to tell your own people? Don't take the bait. Don't take the bait to what? Riot. You said just a little bit ago, just a little bit ago, you promised. You pinky promised that just like you always do, you're gonna get out there and you're gonna protest peacefully. And yet here we have Tim Walls saying, please don't take the bait to riot and burn down the city. My God.

[Governor Tim Walz]

Not allow them to lie about the security and the decency of this State. And let's let this investigation play itself out. Let's make sure we protect our neighbors.

[Tony Kennett]

Oh, here. Now we're gonna let the investigation play out. Now we're gonna let. Oh, hold. By the way, the crowd is growing now in Minneapolis. Here is the. The vigil. Standing silently and praying. No, absolutely not. So there's a Mexican flag that I can see. You can see sunset in Minneapolis. Lights are going down. Things always get real calm as soon as things get dark. Of course. Say her name. Renee. Good. Say her. Yeah, Lots of footage that's starting to come in. It is a very, very, very big crowd of people. Uh, we're gonna try to get some of this footage to you again. There's a lot that's going on this evening. If you are in Minnesota, you are in Minneapolis. Guys. Stay home tonight. Stay home. Uh, it's a very volatile situation. Governor Tim Walls has appeared to make the case that he is. Is standing the National Guard in opposition to the president's administration. Again, we are already coming down off of a day today already in which there was a major House oversight hearing over the major Minnesota fraud between 12 and $18 billion in fraud that has resulted in the subpoena of representative Ilhan Omar over the possible immigration fraud with her brother husband. So we're going to get to that in just a minute. We're going to let the radio crew head over to commercial and. And while they're gone, I do. I do want to talk about again, I don't usually do a ton of ads here on the show. It's not, you know, necessarily my particular cup of tea because I am stressed with this kind of nonsense quite often because I am going to be up late tonight looking into this as it gets worse. I usually would take some melatonin and Melatonin. You take enough melatonin, you take enough Benadryl and you're going to do a little hallucinating. I don't care for that. And so I saw a product in which a friend of mine had posted about exactly how I think you can find the old retweet that proves it. And it resulted in me reaching out to the owner and getting two jars, this thing called pre Sleep. There's a blue raspberry and then there's pink lemonade. And I have used it over the entire month of December, the whole month of December, and didn't advertise it, didn't mention it to you guys. And it was excellent. I still use it. This jar is almost empty. The pink lemonade that I have already all empty. It is excellent stuff in the description. There is a link to grab some now. Yes. If you do go and and enter code Tony10T O N Y10, you will get 10% off. That's because the. The owner of the product obviously he knows that we have a show here at the Daily Signal. Yes, you would get 10% off were. And by the way, the orders that I've refilled, I have not used this code. I've already refilled my order before we had the code and the affiliate link. I recommend it. That's what I have to say about that. So again, pre sleep excellent stuff. I'm as a former science teacher, I'm really skittish about products that promise things to me. This stuff is better than melatonin. I go to sleep. I don't hallucinate the hat man taking too much Melatonin or Benadryl. I highly recommend it. There you go. We're going to get back into some of the news from this congressional hearing and then of course some of the updates out of the situation in Minneapolis as some of our sources get into place on the ground. And of course we're praying for their safety. It's the Tony Kinnit cast here on the Daily Signal. Don't go anywhere. Foreign. You're listening to the Tony kenned cast on 93 WIBC. Welcome back to the Tony Kenneth cast here on the Daily Signal. We are covering live the situation that is developing in Minneapolis. More and more and more and more individuals are taking to the streets at this particular vigil site that Andy Ngo had pointed out based on the. The call to action. And there are. As the lights go down and the lights very much are now going down, what we are seeing is a larger group of individuals that is chanting, that is, that is yelling more spicy things are being yelled in the process. Here's the latest clip we have of that. Rise up. Take a step. Rise up. So you'll note that a couple of minutes ago it was say her name and then the woman who died in the shooting trying to drive at federal agents. Now it is rise up. Take a stand. Rise up. Take a stand. Also, why is it that the leader of the Chance always has the free Palestine voice? I've been on the ground at several of these major protests and that turn into riots. It's always that same voice. It's the same person. We all have voices that we recognize for any. I mean, like, you know, anytime you hear Gilbert Gottfried, you know, it's Gilbert Gottfried. Oh, There's a big surprise, right? I've heard this voice so many times. Pay attention to who uses their voice. This isn't the time to be silent. This is the time to rise up. I like it. It's the time to rise up and spread your wings. I'm sorry. I like that. I do appreciate when individuals over on the left get out and try to do Southern. A little Southern Gospel, a little revenant up there. And then people who have never sat in a church don't really know how to respond to that. So. Sorry, just a little. Little observation there. I do wanted to talk about the Minnesota hearing that took place today in the House of Representatives because it plays into this, the anger, the outrage again that likely led to the individual who was shot today driving at federal agents was ICE being sent into Minneapolis following the exposure of the Somali migrant fraud. 12 to 18 billion dollars. So at the conclusion of this hearing today in the House Oversight Committee, Representative Anna Paulina Luna had this to say. Chair recognizes Ms. Luna.

[Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez]

Thank you, Chairman Comer. Honorable Robbins, based on your record before your committee, when did Governor Walz first become aware of widespread fraud in Minnesota social service programs? I would assume that he has been aware of it since he ran for office for governor in 2018. By 2017, DHS investigators warned CCAP fraud could exceed 50%. What was that information elevated to the governor's office?

[Tony Kennett]

Yes, there was an OLA report.

[Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez]

Thank you, ma'.

[Tony Kennett]

Am.

[Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez]

By 2020, state officials knew feeding our future invoices were fraudulent. We know that payments continue to the AG's knowledge. Did they continue to. Governor? The governor's knowledge as well?

[Tony Kennett]

Yes.

[Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez]

Attorney General Ellison agreed on tape to fight Minnesota's own Department of Human and Health Services in exchange for Somali political and financial support. And in your personal opinion, do you believe it is a possibility that Governor Walls also made that personal deal or that he at least knew about the Attorney General's agreement? I don't know. Okay. I don't want to rehash what you guys have spent hours answering. We know that there's a big issue with the fraud in Minnesota. So on a number of things, I'd first like to point out. Thank you for being here today. But because of your testimony and because of some of the evidence that we've seen brought forward, as well as I'm sure the fact that this committee, I assume, at Chairman Comer's direction, will be soon subpoenaing AG Ellison, I would like to make.

[Tony Kennett]

Now, I do want to cut away from this to point out when the state legislators as well as by the way, the state legislative auditor makes the case that Tim Walls are very, very likely new about this. There are a lot of people who see that Tim Wall is getting out and making all of the hay that he can about the death of an individual who drove at federal agents. And that that will bring us to a quick mail time question that we'll answer here in a second that yeah, there's an argument to be made that what Tim Walls is doing right now is very, very political. Now some of you out there, you'll, you'll say duh. And of course it after looking at a pattern such as we've seen from Governor Tim Walls over the last several years nigh on a decade, it's easy to say yes, obviously, but still with every situation you must be required to build the evidence lest you have a weakest link that fractures the entire argument. So that brings us over to the ultimate outcome of this particular hearing. And then Representative Brandon Gill of Texas, friend of the show, it was on a couple of weeks ago. We'll get to Representative Brandon Gill from first and then we'll head over to Representative Nancy Mace announcing the subpoena of Ilhan Omar.

[News Reporter]

Mr. Ballou, again, thank you for being here. Let me ask you, does large scale Somali immigration make Minnesota stronger or weaker? Certainly stronger, Certainly stronger. Do you know what percentage of Somali headed households in Minnesota are on food stamps?

[Governor Tim Walz]

No.

[News Reporter]

54%. Do you know what that number is for native Minnesota headed households? Well, to be clear, a majority of the seven, it's 7%. There's a big difference between 54% and 7%, is there not? Excuse me sir, could I answer the question? Let me move on. We've got a lot of questions here. What percentage of Somali headed households in Minnesota are on Medicaid? I don't know. It's 73%. Do you know what that number is for Minnesota native households?

[Tony Kennett]

Again you're using the phrase Minnesota native household households.

[News Reporter]

But the majority, if the number is 18%, that's quite an astounding difference. I think we would. Can I answer the question, please? Let me ask you one more and then we can go on to that. What percentage of Somali headed households are on welfare in general? I don't know. It's 81%. What about, let me just ask you, after 10 years of being in the United States, what percentage of Somali immigrant households are on continue to be on welfare? I don't know. The number is 78%.

[Tony Kennett]

So as we just said, building the argument matters Building the argument, making the case. It's very hard to answer. Now, he's going to try immediately that the individual that Gil is questioning is going to try to futz and, you know, kind of butts around and say, well, if you look at the numbers, and again, the numbers do remain correct. Somali culture in Minneapolis is a problem. Somali culture in Minnesota is a problem. Not because of the shade of the individual's skin, not because of the sex of the individuals, not because of the height or the weight of the individuals. It is because of the culture. The culture is toxic. Do you guys know why people don't like being in Philadelphia right after an Eagles game? Because the culture of Philadelphia is to get absolutely wild after an Eagles game. That is part of the culture of the city, has nothing to. There are white people out there brawling. There are black people out there brawling. There are Hispanic people out there brawling. One of my favorite clips is a small Japanese man who loves Philadelphia and the Eagles so much that he threw a wooden chair that was almost his height at an. One of my favorite clips of all time. And I say this as a guy who really likes the Philadelphia Eagles. There's a culture to it, the culture of Somalia. The Somali culture is extremely fraudulent. It honors fraud. It honors violence. The influencers, Somali influencers who have come out from around the country to defend the fraud that took place. Those individuals have expressed anger and outrage, not at the fraud, but at being caught. At being caught. And so when you have someone like Representative Brandon Gill who is pointing out that these are a group of individuals that are taking a lot of money and are then not turning anything back over or not, are not repaying society at large, as it were. And you have, you know, young women who are up on stage saying, well, of course fraud is bad, and then has a panic attack that she said that out loud, looking at men in the crowd and then runs off of the stage. Yeah, that's kind of concerning. There are some questions that need to be answered. We'll let them continue here.

[News Reporter]

So even after 10 years, 78% of Somali immigrant households continue to be on welfare. Do you know what that number is for native Minnesota headed households? Again, you're using non Somali immigrant headed households. If I can just answer the question.

[Tony Kennett]

You're using the phrase native Minnesotans.

[News Reporter]

The majority of Somali Minnesotans are as.

[Tony Kennett]

Minnesotan as any of us.

[News Reporter]

They were born in the United States. It's only.

[Tony Kennett]

So the question, the case that's going to be made here is native Minnesotans. The numbers that Gil is citing here when he says Somali migrant. Again, he's citing the migrant individuals. He's not citing people who are from Somalia who are second, third generation individuals. That's not in those numbers, 8,000 of the 108,000 Somalians.

[News Reporter]

Nevertheless, the welfare usage is astoundingly different. Let me ask you again, does that.

[Tony Kennett]

And then you have the case made by Gill that even if we did incorporate, we did include individuals who are second, third generation Somalia. Somalians here in Minnesota? Well, I'm in Indiana, but here in the United States, whether they be in Washington State or Ohio or in Minnesota, funnily enough, not really in some parts of Michigan because not exactly popular with some other individuals of the Middle East. And Michigan, the fraud numbers, especially regarding.

[News Reporter]

Welfare, still very high, make Minnesota stronger or weaker. Again, I'd like the opportunity to answer the question here. So again, the majority of Somalian Minnesotans are born in the United States, as I understand it. Okay, well, what, what, what, what percentage of, of of working age Somalians who have been in the US for 10 years or more? 10 years or more, how many of them speak English very well? I don't know, about half.

[Tony Kennett]

What are they adding to the United States? Again, the immigration custom, Setting aside the federal law the way it is regarding immigration, looking at the cultural significance of immigration matters, why are they here? Are they here to assimilate, to learn English, to adopt the culture, to build, to pioneer, to be part of the American dream? Absolutely. The idea that the American dream is that you can come here and then live a wonderful life. That's not the American dream. Sorry. The idea that that's what Americans are supposed to let you in for. You, you come from a really rough place. You also want to be in the United States. So therefore, you should get to. Because you, you should get to. No, no. There is a risk and a reward. If you come to the United States from whatever country you come from and you want to work to build the United States, you want to assimilate, you adopt the culture. Like millions of immigrants who came to the country and then left their old culture behind, they took American culture, they made their kids learn English, they left a lot of stuff out to adopt American principles. They became Americans. The idea that, oh, I've become an American because I've been here as a, as a temporary protected status migrant for 15 years. No, what have you done to become an American? I don't care if you are a South African refugee. One of the ones that on the left side of the other, they criticize Coming into the country, if you do not assimilate into the country and you still act and talk and live as though you are in South Africa, get out. And that is a significant concern. And the idea that a bunch of individuals have a magical right to impede law enforcement because that truth is uncomfortable for you isn't going to work with the American people. Not going to happen in the same way that right now, on the foreign policy side of things, that people are suggesting that, that Americans really don't like the United States of getting. Capturing Maduro and bringing him to the United States or capturing the two vessels, one from Guyana, that tried to claim, oh, I'm actually a Russian vessel, speaking no Russian whatsoever. Yeah, that's not going to upset the American people either. These weird narratives that are trying to push these goofy, nonsensical ideas online as though they're standard and normal. And you should feel bad if you disagree with their weird takes and have common sense. That's not going to float. It's not. Now, if we actually go back over to kind of the national conversation now, Democrats have decided, just like Kilma Garcia, just like Nicholas Maduro, just like the Covenant Catholic shooting or the Ascension Church shooting in Minnesota, just time and time and time again, they're going to defend the wrong side. Representative Dan Goldman, a Democrat Rep from New York, making this case today, just bad decisions, invading our cities, using excessive force lawlessly with new agents without proper training. And sadly, this was not unexpected, but it is egregious. It was an outright murder. And the fact that the administration is trying to defend the ICE officer when everyone can see with their own eyes, oh, here it is. He, judge, jury, executioner. He's like, I, I saw, I know what I saw right now, according to multiple angles on the camera, it's not as clear cut that she was just, oh, just trying to leave. They, they, they said, hey, you need to get out of here. That's why the federal agent was trying to open her door. I mean, whenever, you know, whenever I've shown up to a full parking lot and the parking attendant is like, hey, you need to leave, and he's waving me out, the first thing he tries to do is, you know, open my driver's side door and squeeze my butt cheeks every time, every time. I mean, you know, I can't tell you how many times it's been groped by parking attempt. No, that's ridiculous. That's nonsensical. It's stupid to suggest this. Oh, well, clearly I. Representative Dan Goldman of New York Clearly. I mean, New York, it's right next to Minnesota. I've. I've viewed. Maybe it's like Zoran Mamdani. I've been briefed and boxered by my staff, and they've informed me what to believe. This is ridiculous. That car was trying to get away because it still turned away from the officer after she was shot in the head. So, okay, so at that point, it didn't. By the way, it turned away from the officer after she was shot in the head. No. In the video footage, the car doesn't continue turning to the right and like, then either circle around in the road or hit the trail. The Chevy Blazer. No. It then drifts off to the left and then hits the parked sedan. The fact that they are arguing that somehow this is domestic terrorism, much less an attack on ice, is preposterous. Domestic terrorism, okay? Terrorism, when you try to achieve violence, force or intimidation or obstruction to achieve a political goal, that is terrorism. When you obstruct ICE agents to demo. Like, essentially, when you put vehicles in front of. You're trying to block ICE agents in, that is an attempt to intimidate and demoralize so they stop upholding federal law. That's an act of terror. It is by definition. And it's domestic because she was here in the United States doing it to individuals in the United States. It's domestic. It's homegrown. It's domestic terrorism. If you don't like that, tough, maybe. I know. Really cool thing. If you don't want to be shot by federal law enforcement, you don't want to be shot by police officers. Two cool things you can do. Number one, don't obstruct agents on purpose and obstruct the enforcing of the law. Number two, don't drive at officers. You say, but we don't know if she was driving or not. Guys, Guys. When. When they're like, get out of the car, trying to open the door. And then she's like, I got to get out of here right now. And she guns it, and she doesn't look where she's going. Your carelessness does not expunge the consequences of those actions. Again, if I'm at a red light, it turns green, and I'm. While on my phone, gun it. Toyota Corolla to the max. I shoot off into this, and I hit a pedestrian. That's still my fault. Look where you're going. The idea that. Well, I mean, you know, actually the federal officer had to get out of the way. That's not how that works, guys. Pedestrians have the right of way on the road. No, it's not going to work. And the readiness, their excitement to get out there and make this case, it's sickening. This officer not only needs to be fired and suspended, but based on the video, he needs to be charged with. There you go. There's the Derek Chauvening of the situation. Do you think that will happen? I have no idea what will happen. Yeah, some staffer looked at him and said, you better like shut your mouth right now before you find yourself in a CNN Nicholas Sandman style incident. The smirking at the Native American thing, by the way. So again, just, just do. May I suggest the very bare amount now, by the way, I should say we do know a little bit more now. According to Jacqueline Sweet, an investigative journalist whose work is in the Rolling Stone, the Nation, the Intercept, Politico. Oh boy. She said the woman killed by ICE today was a poet. Apparently her name is being said now is not Renee Nicole Goode, but Renee Macklin. She was a poet. She won the 2020 Academy of American American Poets University and college poetry prize at Old Dominion University. People have, have rather quickly pointed out that oh boy, perhaps she had said learning to dissect Fetal Pigs, a poem by her about killing police officers. I've donated Bibles to thrift stores, mash them in plastic bags with an acidic Himalayan salt lamp. What on earth? What on earth. I'm still going to say, waiting just a second. But if you believe as a Democrat politician official, you're going to get out there and say it's clear this officer is Hitler mixed with Derek Chauvin. How dare they. They hurt that innocent, wonderful, Sweet poet flower of civilization. I've, I've got, I've seen this one before. I've seen it one too many times. And so I would, I would recommend from the bottom of my heart that you are a little more careful about, about getting out there and deciding that that ICE is, is pure evil. This is again, this same Gestapo thing that they're trying to say. By the way, you didn't hear the Democrat officials come out and condemn the individual who tried to shoot up the ICE facility in Texas and was trying to shoot ICE officials but ended up shooting detainees instead. This blood thirst from those on the left going after ICE agents, it really, really is sickening. I didn't mention this. Sorry. I said I was going to go back to it. I didn't have the chance to. Representative Nancy Mace did announce, she said, we have just moved to subpoena Representative Ilhan Omar and her brother husband's immigration records in the oversight committee. Federal marriage fraud and knowingly entering a marriage to evade immigration laws is a serious felony punishable by prison time, steep fines, denaturalization and deportation. Marrying a sibling is illegal in every state. We intend to get to the bottom of it, end the fraud, denaturalize and deport Ilhan Omar. So a lot, a lot of people very, very angry, shouting, super duper ultra racism. It's, it's a, it's an interesting time to watch the 2026 mantra of the Democrat party appear to be defending the kinds of behavior that we are seeing in, in Minnesota, whether it be the obstruction of justice, whether it be fraud, whether it be violence. Again, praying that at the present time that the protesters, the, the vigil, as it were, remains peaceful in Minneapolis. Amazing, amazing comments. Foley Square in Minnesota has also now been reportedly taken over. Apparently they are riding in red spray paint. At least I sure hope it's red spray paint. Ice Kill us. Ice Kyus maybe. Interesting, interesting things currently happening. So it looks like, again, I know spray painting the snow, obviously that's not vandalism, but if they've got the spray paint out there and ready to go. Vandalism does usually lead to violence in these particular kinds of protests. One man spray paint is another man's Molotov. Uh, so again, we're gonna be keeping an eye on that one. We're gonna head over to one quick commercial break. And then, of course, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez now getting out here and giving her official statement. Gotta get the smartest woman in Congress to get out here and give us her expert forensic legal take. Obviously, when you're a bartender getting a master's and economics from Boston University, the very first thing I'm looking for you for is, you know, your forensic and investigative skills. Don't go anywhere. It's the Tony Kinnett cast here on the Daily Signal. This is the Tony Kennett cast on 93 WYBC. We'll go back to the Tony Kennett cast here on the Daily Signal. Representative Alexandra Ocasio Cortez, one of the favorites to be the Democrat presidential nominee in 2028. She's also weighed in. She's seen the footage. She's seen enough. Here you go.

[Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez]

Prosecuted. What we saw today was a criminal. A criminal murder a woman and shoot her in the head while she was trying to escape and flee for her life.

[Tony Kennett]

Trying to escape and flee for her life. Tell me how many people. Go ahead. Seriously Help me out here. How many individuals who have complied with federal law enforcement have been killed? Show me these people. She was trying to flee for her life. Federal law enforcement was ordering her to stop out of the vehicle, and she made the decision to floor it at the ICE agent that was standing in front of the vehicle, again to prevent her from leaving. You don't have the right to flee, law enforcement. I know there's this. This fun idea that a lot of people have where they suggest, you know, law enforcement says, stop, don't move. And they immediately decide to be the wacky waving, inflatable arm tube man at your local car dealership, fleeing for her life. No one has lost their life that I'm aware of. Happy to be, you know, proven wrong here, and I'll gladly acknowledge that. But I am not aware of any individuals that have, you know, I said, hey, stop right there, you. And then they. They said, okay. And then they waited and then they were killed. No.

[Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez]

And I think what we saw today was a manifestation of every American's worst nightmare.

[Tony Kennett]

A manifestation of every American's worst nightmare.

[Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez]

Which is their government turning into a tyranny.

[Tony Kennett]

Their government turning into a tyranny. Ah, the Nazis are here. Here we go. Aoc. This is her. This is what the Democrats are going to run on. Should be arrested. The officer involved.

[Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez]

I think what we saw was a murder today. And I think that we need. Of course, you said that she was fleeing.

[Tony Kennett]

There you go. And again, the media making it very clear, do you think he should be arrested? Do you think that this individual should be locked up? She makes the case immediately. Well, because she realizes that she's treading on thin ice. You're not supposed to do this. You're not supposed to go out immediately and say, well, clearly this person is guilty of all. Again, I even made the case with Tim Walls very clearly, that with the doj, several federal agencies that are currently looking into probes on the Tim Walls administration. These are the crimes for which Tim Walls could be charged if they decide he has committed certain in, you know, certain violations of these statutes. The same with Governor Tim Wallace today. If he deploys the Minnesota National Guard and stands them against federal law enforcement, he violates the laws regarding sedition and insurrection, purposefully rebelling and encouraging rebellion. Correct. Then you would bring in the law enforcement. That's my responsibility. As someone who's in broadcasting, who's currently on FCC Clock, I've been informed a couple of stations have picked us up. We're currently on the air in some places. We aren't normally on the air. And so basic, fundamental responsibility after any kind of an incident, I mean, they've decided same. They're Derek chauvining it right here, right now. And why are they doing that? Because they want the crowd to demand blood. They want French Revolution right there, right now. And that's a very, very dangerous thing. And so what comes out of this in the next couple of hours is not as perhaps cut and dried as the classic American protest, as a lot of people believe. We've seen the George Floyd maneuver before. I don't think that it's going to do what they imagine here. We will find out, though. We will for sure find out. 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As the lights go out in Minneapolis, we do have reports of some individuals that are starting to get a little bit rowdy. Don't have any footage of it yet. There are reports that again, as a larger crowd grows in the, the, the particular square in Minneapolis, it really does appear that there are no Minnesota State Patrol law enforcement that are kind of corralling this particular crew. I think it's best to say pray for those who are in. Pray for those who are in Minneapolis. Pray that this involves people walking away. And pray. May I say that Tim Walls isn't dumb enough to actually activate the Minnesota National Guard against federal troops. That is something that our nation does not need. So with that, we'll answer a couple of mail time questions here rather quickly. I think there are some really great mailtime questions. Again, you don't have to give us a super chat and Tip us on YouTube or rumble in order to send a question for mailtime. You don't have to donate anything to us at all. For those that do that, do get a YouTube membership and get access to memberships earlier on or excuse me, get access to videos like interviews earlier on than maybe some of the general audience does, access to some emojis in like the live stream. Again, it's really just a way that people have chosen to tip and donate to us. We really appreciate it. So that clarification made Kevin H. Stankiewicz, he gave $5. Very kind of you. And says it's time for President Trump to invoke the Insurrection act and send in the regular U.S. army and Marine troops with armored vehicles and helicopters. James Berrioz, ask the questions $5 as well. Very kind of you, James. Appreciate that. Says, why is it tolerated? Imagine interfering with a cop like that. Even something simple like a traffic stop. So interesting, interestingly the case has been made on the left for years that if a white person was ever in this situation, then oh, I mean cops would just say, well, you're allowed to flee and do whatever you want and wave your arms around and you know, argue ad nauseam with the police officer. Not the case, not the case here at all. And it shouldn't be tolerated anywhere. That's the case that Ron Coleman was making that there have been individuals far too soft for far too long. And so what you get is a jump from situations where individuals act in self defense, which is what the Department of Homeland Security is alleging this officer did. And then you essentially go from, you know, from 0 to 30 miles an hour to 100 miles an hour real quick. Peggy 4169, nice. Joined the Tony Kennett cast membership. Appreciate that. Very nice of you to, to join over on the YouTube membership side dmog2217 said love from Utah, your show is based well thank you over those y' all out in Utah. Really gorgeous state. Was just there last year. Loved every minute of it. Wasn't expecting to one of the most beautiful. I think the Utah Rockies are better than Colorado Rockies any day of the week and appreciate you saying our show is based Please don't elect that Somali Democrat to Congress who's running. Please don't, please don't elect him. So next question. This is from 55 and says how does shooting a driver make a car stop moving forward? The point of firing the firearm is not to bring the car to an immediate halt. It is to stop the individual from acting with their car like a battering ram. And in some case if there is a belief that an individual is violent or has violent intent to stop them from moving, you are not allowed, it is not legal to evade law enforcement. And if you evade law enforcement, you get in a high speed chase down the Internet. The.45s and the 9 millimeters will come out. Absolutely they will and they should. Or the, you know, maybe I should say the, the, the AR15s. Now we didn't get to cover this today because of the news, but in Iran there are individuals in the anti regime movement that are pulling out the AK47s to go after regime leadership. And I guess since we've already given quite the viewer discretion warning on the show today, here's what that looks like by. Yep, the point of, of, of firing into a car, not just to make the car stop moving. That was in an Iranian regime, one of the Mullah's chief intelligence and police officials in a certain region. So the situation in Iran is certainly heating up. I did have one comment today on that that I thought was a little interesting saying, well, you know, you think that was the CIA? No, that's not how the, the CIA or even prime defense contracting agencies operate. You don't roll up alongside and fire off a couple of rounds from the Kalashnikov. Also, he was wearing his watch the wrong way. That's just a little fun fact for operator stuff. But alas, over to LDHBs also gave $5. Again, very, very kind. Didn't have to do that. Appreciate that. And then Pamela Thibodeau, 1899, close to the age 1899. That Maxine Waters is fun fact there. She also joined the YouTube channel membership. Really appreciate it. Thank you guys for tuning in for a longer episode of the show tonight. Almost two hours. We almost have crossed that dreaded mark again. Pray for those in Minneapolis, especially those independent journalists on the ground, law enforcement, and above all, I ask you guys to remain, stay, remain, remain safe. And we'll see you tomorrow at 7pm Eastern here on the Daily Signal. This is the Tony Kenneth cast, nationally syndicated and first on 93 WIBC. Take care.