Ep. 496 - Illegal Alien Kills 4 in Indiana, Rioters Ram Fed. Officers, Victor Davis Hanson RETURNS

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Podcast Episode Summary

Podcast: The Tony Kennett Cast (The Daily Signal)
Episode: Ep. 496 – Illegal Alien Kills 4 in Indiana, Rioters Ram Fed. Officers, Victor Davis Hanson RETURNS
Date: February 6, 2026
Host: Tony Kennett
Notable Guests: Victor Davis Hanson, contributors from Department of Homeland Security, reporters

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Episode Overview

This intense and topical episode takes on major recent news events, exploring the deadly crash in Indiana involving an illegal immigrant truck driver, performative student protests against ICE, violent protests and attacks on federal officers, and deep dives into hypocrisy and dysfunction in current U.S. politics. Highlighted is the much-anticipated return of Victor Davis Hanson after surgery, who delivers incisive commentary on law, protest, and media narratives. Sharp analysis, impassioned monologues, and signature wry humor permeate the discussion.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Indiana Tragedy: Illegal Immigrant Truck Driver Kills Four (03:00–13:00)

• Story Recap:
  Tony details a fatal accident in Jay County, Indiana, where an illegal immigrant truck driver killed four Amish men and critically injured another by recklessly changing lanes.
• Details on Driver:
  • Identified as Bekzan Be Shahiv, 30, originally paroled into the U.S. by the Biden administration via the CBP1 app (08:38).
  • Obtained a commercial driver’s license (CDL) in Pennsylvania under Governor Josh Shapiro.
  • Employed by a California trucking company noted for flouting regulations and exploiting shadow labor.
• Systemic Issues Highlighted:
  • Lax vetting and licensing of non-citizens.
  • State policies enabling illegal immigrants to receive CDLs.
  • Corrosive incentives for trucking companies using unvetted drivers.
• Tony's Stance (09:48):

  “Every single weigh station in Indiana...must be manned and individuals that come through our state with commercial driver's licenses must, without exception, prove that they are citizens of the United States.”

• Contextual Data:
  • Tony provides a rapid-fire recounting of similar fatal incidents involving illegal immigrant drivers nationwide in recent years, reinforcing a pattern he dubs an "actual pandemic."

Notable Quotes:

• Tony Kennett (05:50):

  “I’m furious over this. This was the statement provided by Todd Rakita, the Attorney General of Indiana… ‘This tragedy is absolutely horrific. This driver never should have been allowed into our country…It’s everyday Americans who end up paying the price.’”

• DHS Official (08:38):

  “It’s egregious and heartbreaking... This individual came in December 2023, paroled in via the CBP1 app, then got a CDL from Pennsylvania. This should never have happened.”

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2. Student Walkouts & Performative Protest Culture (02:00–07:00, ongoing references)

• Recent Protests:
  Widespread student walkouts protesting Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) are portrayed as shallow and uninformed—citing an Indianapolis school protest featuring “dancing, twerking on vehicles, yelling...standing up against the big bad fascist government.”
• Media Reaction:
  National and local outlets hailed student protests without critical context.
• Tony's Teaching Anecdote:
  Argues students protesting “have no idea what they are protesting” and describes his handling of a Parkland walkout as a teacher—by holding students accountable for missed classwork (03:32).
• Underlying Social Critique:
  Tony argues such activism is often motivated more by desire for attention or escape from classes than true engagement or understanding.

Memorable Moment:

• Tony Kennett (03:32):

  “It is not your First Amendment right to abdicate certain responsibilities that you have without consequence. Which means this: If you choose to protest, you take it upon yourself the consequences for that protest.”

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3. Broader Crisis: Illegal Immigrant-Related Vehicular Manslaughter (13:00–17:00)

• Pattern Identified:
  Tony lists, with growing agitation, state-by-state fatal accidents caused by illegal immigrant drivers over the last two years, asserting the issue’s national scope.
• Media & Political Priorities:
  Argues that national coverage prioritizes trivial student protests and performative affirmation over real public safety threats.

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4. Congressional Hearings as Political Theater (17:00–24:00)

• Committee Dysfunction:
  Tony dissects recent House/Senate hearings (notably Senator Chris Van Hollen vs. Scott Besant) as examples of grandstanding disconnected from substantive oversight.
• Memorable Exchange:
  • Chris Van Hollen (18:35):

    “You suggested that Alex Preddy was culpable in his own killing... Would you like to retract that statement?”

  • Scott Besant (19:32):

    “I would not. And would you like to express remorse over the death of Ashley Babbitt here in the Capitol?”

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5. Violent Protest & Progressive Activism: The Case of Elizabeth Rose (23:55–25:45)

• Incident:
  Leftist TikTok influencer Elizabeth Rose charged with 18 USC 111 (assault on federal officers) after ramming her car into ICE agents during a protest.
• Rose’s Social Media:
  • Publicly documents her arrest, appeals for community support, and directs followers to her new fundraising page.
• Tony’s Commentary:
  Highlights performative aspect and questions priorities in progressive activism.

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6. State and Local Politics: Solidarity Votes, DEI, and Church Activism (44:00–48:00)

• Prairie Village, Kansas and others pass resolutions in “solidarity” against ICE, echoing affirmation culture and “political theater.”
• Progressive Church Rhetoric:
  Tony critiques leftist clergy who blend faith and social/political issues in sermons, e.g., Christians would serve as “abortion doulas” in today’s context (46:54).

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7. Mailbag: Legal Strategies & Systemic Obstacles (49:10–51:00)

• Listener Questions:
  • On class action lawsuits against Governor Shapiro for endangering public safety: Tony explains why this is legally unworkable due to prosecutorial discretion and lack of actionable damages under class action rules.
• Policy Suggestion:
  Supports more robust highway enforcement to check on the immigration status of CDL holders.

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8. The Return of Victor Davis Hanson: On Legal Hypocrisy & Media Narratives (56:26–69:40)

Segment Structure:

• Personal Update:
  Hanson recounts his recent battle with lung cancer, surgery, complications, and expresses gratitude for the support received.
• Minnesota Protests Analysis:
  • Points out the double standard in how progressive activists and media treat law enforcement, violence, and “martyrs” depending on politics.
    • Contrasts the treatment of January 6th Capitol rioters vs. Minnesota anti-ICE protesters.
    • Notes how the left canonizes activists resisting ICE and demonizes Ashley Babbitt.
    • Critiques selective application of “states’ rights” rhetoric by progressive leaders.
• Key Quote (Victor Davis Hanson, 58:50):

  “What I’m really disturbed about is the utter hypocrisy that we’re seeing with this street insurrectionary movement. There is no coherent principle. None.”

• Additional Insights:
  • Media and officials conceal the identities of law enforcement officers in some cases while vilifying others.
  • “States’ rights” only invoked when advantageous to progressive causes; otherwise disregarded.
  • Warns such shifting arguments will undermine rule of law.

Memorable Quotes:

• Victor Davis Hanson (62:30):

  “In Minneapolis, all of our most prominent liberals are saying the state...has a right to do what? Occupy federal property, attack federal officers, prevent the enforcement of federal law? I thought the left didn’t like states’ rights.”

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9. Voter Fraud Concerns & Media Dismissal (79:35–87:39)

• Abby Phillips Show Debate Recap:
  Federalist’s Brianna Lyman cites concrete examples of non-citizens voting or registering, though panel host Abby Phillips downplays the impact due to low numbers.
• Tony’s Analysis:
  • Argues rarity is not the point; the system should be secured even against low-probability abuses since elections are often decided by slim margins.
  • Rebukes the “finder’s fallacy” that a lack of proven cases means an absence of fraud.

Notable Exchange:

• Brianna Lyman (81:44):

  “You know, it’s funny when you guys mock small amounts, but let’s remember some elections are decided quite literally on the margin.”

• Abby Phillips (84:03):

  “I wanted you to go through it because I think it illustrates in and of itself how actually incredibly rare this is.”

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10. Forward-Looking Commentary & Political Strategy (88:02–end)

• Advice for the Right’s Strategy:
  Tony argues Republicans need to keep casting a broad, positive vision and focus on practical, effective solutions over performative outrage or populist policies.
• Effective Messaging:
  He praises presenters like Tom Holman and Scott Besant who calmly and thoroughly present facts rather than engaging in theater.
• Critique of Performative ‘Youth’ Outreach:
  Mocks "cringey" attempts by Democratic politicians (Kamala Harris, Hillary Clinton) to connect with Gen Z via apps, memes, and awkward pop culture references.

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Indiana Crash & Broader Crisis: 03:00–13:00, 13:00–17:00
• Student Walkouts & Protest Culture: 02:00–07:00, references ongoing
• Congressional Hearings as Theater: 17:00–24:00
• Elizabeth Rose—Riot and Arrest: 23:55–25:45
• Local/Church Affirmations: 44:00–48:00
• Mailbag Q&A: 49:10–51:00
• Victor Davis Hanson Commentary: 56:26–69:40
• Voter Fraud Panel: 79:35–87:39
• Closing Commentary/Strategy: 88:02–end

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Tone & Style

• Direct, Sardonic, and Impassioned: Tony Kennett’s Midwest "commonsense" style blends biting sarcasm with data-driven critique.
• Humorous, Pop-culture References: Frequent humorous asides and cultural jabs ("Ponytail Gandalf," “How do you do, fellow kids?” meme).
• Fact-Heavy, Moralizing: Frequent citation of news, statistics, and legal codes, as well as strong moral judgments on policy and political behavior.
• Guest Contributions: Victor Davis Hanson brings thoughtful, scholarly critique with a more subdued but cutting tone.

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Summary Takeaways

• The episode offers a forceful call to refocus on real public safety threats and systemic failures in immigration enforcement and licensing.
• Highlights a pattern of fatal consequences from policy failings, contrasting with what are framed as media distractions and political theatrics.
• Warns against double standards in law and public rhetoric, demanding consistency and practical solutions over posturing.
• Victor Davis Hanson’s return brings historic perspective and analytical depth to current events.
• Urges the political right to adopt a results-oriented, vision-casting strategy instead of mere outrage or influencer culture.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Tony Kennett (09:48):

  “Every single weigh station in Indiana...must be manned and individuals that come through our state with commercial driver's licenses must, without exception, prove that they are citizens of the United States.”

• Victor Davis Hanson (58:50):

  “What I’m really disturbed about is the utter hypocrisy that we’re seeing with this street insurrectionary movement. There is no coherent principle. None.”

• Brianna Lyman (81:44):

  “Some elections are decided quite literally on the margin.”

• Tony Kennett (88:02):

  “The right needs to continue figuring out how to get calm, level headed individuals out there to say...‘these are the details, these are the receipts, this is the list. This is why I have it right in front of me. I’m competent, I’m prepared. Here you go.’ That’s actually doing things that are successful.”

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This summary covers the critical narratives, memorable lines, and episode flow, providing a comprehensive view for anyone who missed the discussion.

Transcript

[Tony Kennett]

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[Radio Crew Member]

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[Tony Kennett]

Tony Kennett. Tony Kennett. Tony Kennett. Tony Kennett, host of THE Tony Kennett cast. Let's get down to business. You're listening to the Tony Kennett cast on 93 WIBC on CYTV, here on the Daily Signal. Good evening and welcome to the Tony Kennett cast here on the Daily Signal, nationally syndicated first on 93 BC. We're glad that you are with us this evening. We have quite a lot to dig into. Victor Davis Hansen joining us for the first time after his surgeries later on the show on the livestream. Let's dig into the series of events from today without further ado. There are a number of walkouts being celebrated by legacy media outlets, local and national. These students, brave, stunning, ever wise in their teenage youth, are around the country walking out of schools and protesting Immigration Customs Enforcement. They have no grasp of the reality of federal law, of the consequences and why we have certain laws in place and certain law enforcement to uphold those laws. All they know is that they can get out of class. They can get out in front of the school and do things like we saw from this one northern Indianapolis school yesterday. So a lot of dancing, twerking on vehicles, yelling, oh, so very serious. Oh, yes, standing up against the big bad fascist government or whatever. Stupid. Of course. I was a former teacher and administrator. I taught at Knightstown Intermediate School during a very big walkout in protest of, I believe, the Parkland School shooting. And I had students that said we're going to go out into the hallway because we're really scared of school shootings. We're going to go out into the hallway at a preset time of day when everyone knows exactly where we are going to be in the least safe place in the school from a school shooter. And we're going to sit out there and we're going to protest. And I said, okay, any students that are out of my class are going to be marked as zeros for not being in class for particular work. And the assistant principal came down to my room and was very, very upset. How could I possibly do this to students? First Amendment rights, I said very clearly, it is not your First Amendment right to abdicate certain responsibilities that you have without consequence. Which means this. If you choose to protest, you take it upon yourself the consequences for that protest. The least safe place for students is a pre planned protest in an era that we're all supposed to be very worried about. Violence in school shootings, not to mention things that students are protesting on that they have no idea what they are protesting. One day later, while outlets here in Indiana and across the country are still celebrating the bravery of students for protesting against Immigration Customs Enforcement, there was a tragedy that is yet the latest in a string of despicable and horrifying tragedies in Jay county, which is just a little bit east from me here in Greenfield, Indiana, where I broadcast the though the rest of my colleagues be in Washington D.C. just down the road, an illegal immigrant driving a semi because of course was not satisfied that the semi truck in front of him driven by Gert Pretorius, 44, of Geneva, traveling east on State Road 67, he'd slowed down for traffic for some reason. Well, this illegal immigrant, he doesn't have time for slowing down. He guns it, swings over into the left lane and and as he does so, plows into a van of Amish men. According to the reporting, four men were killed. One has made it out of a couple of surgeries, was in critical condition. According to the J County Sheriff's Department. He is now stable. The four men were Donald Strip, 55, of Portland, Indiana, Harry Iker, 50, of Bryant, Menno Eicher, 25, of Bryant and Paul Eicher, 19, of Bryant and then Simon Jarrod, age 23, Donald Stripe. Donald Stipp appears to be the driver that was in surgery, the illegal immigrant driving the semi. We'll put a picture of the accident up on screen here so everyone can take a look at this particular incident. The semi truck you can see plowing over the van in the Amish community in eastern central Indiana. Mangled, terrible. Here is the illegal immigrant responsible for this horrific tragedy. Beckzan be Shahiv, age 30. Now the article says of Philadelphia. No, he's an illegal immigrant. He's currently being held on an ICE detainer. He got his commercial driver's license in Philadelphia. That's why he's he's listed here. Now Bill Mulligan over from Fox News did censor out the address of this particular individual he was given a commercial driver's license in the state of Pennsylvania, a blue state, by Josh Shapiro's administration, released back into the country by the Biden administration. The issue of this commercial driver's license was July 3, 2025. He is an illegal immigrant. He is not a citizen of this country. He is employed by a trucking company in the state of California under one of the shadow companies that California allows to operate in its borders. Essentially, if you're in the United States, you run some type of trucking company, whatever it is, and you make the decision to flunk a lot of your safety inspections, you have a lot of problems, a lot of perhaps legal citations, then you can go to California and just change your name around and California will rubber stamp of approval your commercial driving operation and shipping, and you can put more illegal immigrants out onto the road. Now, again, I am, I'm gonna level with you. You can tell I'm probably a little shaken about this one. I'm furious over this. This was the statement provided by Todd Rakita, the Attorney General of Indiana, to me this afternoon. He said to the Tony Kennett cast, quote, this tragedy is absolutely horrific. This driver never should have been allowed into our country in the first place because Joe Biden imported millions of illegals from over 150 different countries without proper controls. It's everyday Americans from every state who end up paying the price. And we are still dealing with the fallout today. Said, we are praying for the four men who lost their lives, their grieving families and the entire Amish community as they face this unimaginable loss. The Attorney General doesn't even have the opportunity here to have prosecuted this particular individual who shouldn't even be in the country because the driver's license, the CDL that was given to again, his, his name, Becan. This driver's license was issued by Josh Shapiro's government, the supposed moderate blue Democrat government. Trisha McLaughlin of the Department of Homeland Security gave this statement on the Scott Jennings show today. Check it out. What is the Department of Homeland Security response to this today? And are we going to see a crackdown on these aliens being able to get behind the wheel of semi tractor trailers?

[Department of Homeland Security Official]

Oh, it's egregious and it's heartbreaking and I'm so sorry to those families and those individuals who have been impacted by this tragedy. This individual came in In December of 2023, as you said before, was paroled into the country by the Biden administration via the CBP1 app. And then, yes, he procured a CDL or Commercial Driver's license from the state of Pennsylvania. This should have never happened. I don't understand how. I mean, coming down the highway, Scott, as you know, these 18 wheelers, these vehicles are like missiles. If you are not properly trained, if you can't speak the English language, if you can't follow the correct traffic procedures and signals, this is an incredibly dangerous formula and deadly formula. So I think more information will come out about this individual. And I know that Secretary Duffy and Secretary Noem have been working together on operations to get these drivers off of the streets. We've been conducting operations at weigh stations and other places that CDL drivers frequent to make sure that these people are properly vetted.

[Tony Kennett]

Now, I'm going to level with you. This may not be perhaps the most level headed suggestion at the time. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't care. I cannot say that I know any of these particular individuals. However, I have had the pleasure of working with individuals from the Jay county area Amish community before growing up in the eastern central Indiana kind of all contractor, every guy learns how to do carpentry and roofing in local ministry as I did growing up. I know a lot of people in this community. And so this may not perhaps be the most level headed and rational suggestion, but in Tennessee, the way stations that you often find abandoned, especially in the state of Indiana and other states, and I know we're at commercial time, but I'm going to finish this here for the people on air in Indiana especially every single weigh station in Indiana along the I70, the I65, the I74, the I69 corridors must be manned. And individuals that come through our state with commercial driver's licenses must without any exception, prove that they are citizens of the United States. Absolutely. Because it is one in the drop of a massive bucket of individuals who have been slaughtered by people who cannot speak or read English, who have no idea the rules of the road and have just been slapped with a commercial driver's license. So some trucking company out of California can get cheap slave labor because they're too lazy, stupid, ignorant and evil to run a trucking operation in the manner that America was built on. And the individuals in charge of that company should be charged equally in this vehicular manslaughter with Bekzan. All right, radio crew, we'll send you to the commercial continue on the live stream. In the meantime, it's the Tony Kinnit cast here on the Daily Signal. Now I made the claim drop in a Bucket. Let's go through some of these, this actual pandemic, because just in the last two years. In just the last two years. March 2023, Ohio school bus crash after a minivan collision. Herman Joseph, Haitian national, undocumented. December 2023, Broomfield, Colorado. Jose Guadalupe Menvar, alas, Salvadoran, deported four times and DUI crash, two dead. March 2024, Marysville, Washington state. Raul Benitez Santana, illegal immigrant. Struck and killed a state trooper during a high speed DUI patrol. Over 100 miles an hour, impaired. March 2024, Seymour, Indiana. D', amigo Juan. He is a Guatemalan, undocumented, therefore an illegal fatal accident outside. Later charged, taken into ICE custody again. One dead. April 2024 in Louisiana. July 2024 in Virginia. September 2024, outside of Dormont, Pennsylvania. Various illegal immigrants in the Dormont, Pennsylvania and surrounding areas. I know because they were reported directly to our show. It's one of our broadcast and syndication areas. 6 Total deaths in September 2024 due to illegal immigrant drivers in Pennsylvania. Oh, wait, you'll notice that the CDL was issued to this Kyrgyzstanian afterward. Josh Shapiro. Not too broken up about that. Uh, he, he was busy ignoring the actual individuals that set fire to his governor. October 2024 in Texas. Jorge Peralta. October 2020. Another October 2024 case in Texas. Rogello Ortiz Olivas hit and run crash. One dead. Joel Enrique Gonzalez Chassein in Texas. In October, another dead. 2024. October in Missouri. June 2025, California. August 2025 in Florida, three dead. Indiana. October 2025, a Serbian semi truck driver swerving onto oncoming traffic. Used a suspended family member's commercial driver's license. One dead. Ontario, California, four dead. Indian, undocumented. Josh Preet Singh. This was obviously a national story. Also In New Jersey, October 2025, undocumented Mexican national killed two. 2025 in Wisconsin, in Florida, Illinois, Tennessee, Texas into December in Tennessee. And now here in February of 2026 in Indiana and California. Four dead in Indiana, one dead in California. And yet the story, all of the national media coverage is on a bunch of high schoolers twerking on vehicles proudly because they're protesting ice. You have congressmen who are using completely unrelated committee hearings like Chris Van Halen. We're going to play this clip in a second. We'll bring the radio crew back to go after. To go after Scott Besant, of all people, in a treasury hearing over illegal immigrant situation stuff. Now, we are going to continue here because I do want, I would point out. This affirmation posturing everywhere has become a significant issue. When I say it's become a significant issue, entire local governments are essentially stopping in their tracks to pass affirmation votes than that we stand with Minneapolis against ice. This is in Prairie Village in Kansas. Oh, I'm finding out that we may have lost our particular connection with our cloud storage stuff. So hopefully our livestream software keeps up for just a little bit here. We'll let it run. Now. It's not just the left that has these particular issues. Again, we'll get to some of this stuff in just a little bit. Maria Salazar over on the GOP has also made it clear that the reason that we really need illegal immigrants in the United States is because of all of the wonderful free and cheap labor they provide. But don't touch the nannies or the gardeners or the ones who are picking up the jalapeno peppers or the oranges or the berries or the ones in the dairy houses. Come on. Those people are helping us eat better. Cheaper homes, cheaper vegetables and better fruits. So those are the ones that we are trying to give a dignified status or, or, or relying on slave labor sucks. We gotta bring the radio crew back. Don't go anywhere. It's the Tony Kennett cast. This is the Tony Kennett cast on 93 WYBC. Welcome back to the Tony Knittcast here on the Daily Signal. We've got a lot to cover this evening. We're gonna keep moving through it. The congressional hearings continually are just getting beyond ridiculous. And when I say the congressional hearings are getting beyond ridiculous, that is, that is not some, some small offhanded, whatever, the congressional hearings. Now, it doesn't matter whether or not they have anything to do whatsoever with the issue at hand, which committee at hand is important regarding. If it's a Treasury or Finance committee actually pulling people in and talking about finance, if it's about judicial, actually talking about federal judges and the upholding of particular laws and the implements of them. If it's oversight, talking about oversight now, everything is for the cameras, case in point. And it's, it, it's, it's just something else to see. Senator Chris Van Holland go toe to toe with Scott Besant. Why going toe to toe with, with Scott Besant because he doesn't like the way that Scott Besant spoke about Alex Preddy, the Minneapolis shooting situation, which again is a just a very, very weird situation. A weird thing to go after Scott Besant 4. And yet again, doesn't matter what the committee is, doesn't matter what's actually taking place. We're still going to get this ring around the rosy nonsense. Sorry, we're pulling up the clip. We've got a few goofy tech issues that seem to be persisting. Scott Besant going up toe to toe with the Maryland senator. Not over financial stuff, not over anything related to what he was actually voted into office to take care of here, but just to go after Scott over ice.

[Senator Chris Van Hollen]

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[Tony Kennett]

No more.

[Senator Chris Van Hollen]

Mr. Secretary, I think you would agree that the credibility of the Secretary of the treasury is important. And I want to give you a chance to retract a statement that you made on national TV. Alex Preddy was shot 10 times and killed by federal agents in Minneapolis. The administration, some administration, called him a, quote, domestic terrorist. You suggested that Alex Preddy was culpable in his own killing because he had a gun in his waistband holster, which he was licensed to carry. When asked, you said, quote, I'm sorry this gentleman is dead, but. And you went on to say he had a weapon, suggesting that he was culpable in his own killing. So, Mr. Secretary, today, would you like to retract that statement?

[Scott Besant]

I would not. And would you like to express remorse over the death of Ashley Babbitt here in the Capitol?

[Senator Chris Van Hollen]

Oh, I have expressed remorse over that.

[Tony Kennett]

So he is not, by the way. There's no record of doing so. If we're going to play again, if we're going to play particular games. Scott Besant is once again a competent member of the administration and forcing Van Hollen into making a pretty clever equivocation here. And as far as the record shows, Van Holland essentially mocked Babbitt, said, hey, you break the law, you run the risk of finding out. Now, insensitive, especially at the time. Absolutely. But that's what he's going after Scott Besson for here.

[Senator Chris Van Hollen]

Oh, I've done that. Mr. Secretary. Mr. Secretary, please don't. So you think I just. I have other questions, but I actually would have expected you to take this opportunity to rephrase your response to that question.

[Tony Kennett]

It's a Finance Committee to discuss finances. What are we doing? What are we wasting our time for? Now, Besant did end up tangling with a couple of other members of the House and the Senate over the last couple of days. He went toe to toe with Elizabeth Warren today as well. The President also made a joke about you that I won't repeat, Senator Warren. Oh, actually, I will.

[Scott Besant]

He said he had reservations.

[Department of Homeland Security Official]

If this was a joke, why not just say so?

[Tony Kennett]

It was a joke.

[Scott Besant]

And he Made a joke about you too, Senator Warren.

[Tony Kennett]

Got a lot of laughs. Got a lot of laughs. Yeah.

[Scott Besant]

So.

[Tony Kennett]

So if you're taking notes here, what's the focus in the country right now? You have one side of the aisle that has all of their attention focused on these performative protests, performative outrage, all of this theater so that a bunch of middle aged white women on the left can simper and whine and talk about affirmation and a bunch of high school students can run out and pretend to be brave and strong and stunning and what have you, while there are individuals that are suffering due to the carelessness and the recklessness of administrations like Josh Shapiro's in Pennsylvania, Gavin Newsom's in California, who, as we talked about yesterday on the show, took a weird victory lap over 20 years late and hundreds of billions of dollars down the tube into the incinerator or his pockets, more like it. The California high speed rail system finally getting underway. And while all of that is going on, that malpractice and then actual enforcement mechanisms attempting to be undertaken, whether it's Tom Holman directing operations in Minneapolis or whether we see Scott Besant tackling a number of things regarding the US treasury, whether it's economic incentives, whether it's the new Trump accounts, which are incredibly popular and groundbreaking for future retirement and a pathway out of enormous recurring debt ad nauseum, or dealing with treasury investigations on fraud happening all around the country from coast to coast, from festering sea to the pocket of your local representative and maybe a shining sea in there, who knows? And instead, all we're doing is we're dragging administration officials, again, administration officials in to these performative TV theater committees. Now, on the social media side, it's encouraging people who got out there. We played this clip a couple of weeks ago. I believe there was some lady who had never put on Carhartt overalls before, but she was gonna go protest, so she needs the outfit. So she puts on a pair of Carhartt overalls, which is not gonna protect you from tear gas or any other kind of gas for that matter. Just ask any old man in a truck stop, man, those things are not gas proof. Puts on a pair of Carhartt overalls, can't fasten them. Some kind of a leftist TikTok influencer named Elizabeth Rose has now been arrested for ramming her vehicle into federal agents in again, attempted vehicular manslaughter. Sorry, that's the brave students twerking again. Here you go. Federal officials say the government is doing its job. So putting on her decorative 3M respirator, her keffiyeh, her Carhartt's. By the way, we're not playing this clip yet, but it took her a solid five minutes to figure out how to fasten the snaps on those overalls. Protesters AND police CLASH.

[Elizabeth Rose (Leftist TikTok Influencer)]

I just received a call from a lawyer telling me that the federal government is going to charge me.

[Tony Kennett]

Oh, no, but you, you were doing so many important things bringing attention to. You were gonna go protest and wear the gas mask and you were doing fun dances. Oh, what could have gone wrong?

[Elizabeth Rose (Leftist TikTok Influencer)]

And my options were to a turn myself in tomorrow morning, which will be 3rd February, or wait for them to serve warrant and knock down my door. So tomorrow I'm being charged with 18 USC 111. I don't know much information other than that I have to turn myself in in the morning.

[Tony Kennett]

Excellent, excellent seller stuff. We're going to send the radio crew over to commercial, continue on the live stream. Maybe we can break into what 18 US code 1 dash 1 is. Here's the Tony cannot cast on the daily signal. So what, what this super intelligent individual has been charged with is ramming vehicles into ICE agents, at best attempting to obstruct and impede law enforcement, at worst attempted murder. Because it you. If you purposefully wreck your vehicle into another, you purposely ram your vehicle into another, that's attempted murder. Attempted homicide in Minnesota especially, but at the federal level, 100%.

[Elizabeth Rose (Leftist TikTok Influencer)]

Morning. Clearly I've been crying. Here's what I will say. I'm so incredibly grateful for community and who have reached out and who are trying to help get lawyers and advocacy and help me scrub the Internet. I will tell you that there's going to be a different page that is active. I'm going to have to take this page private, but you can find out more information at Notoriously Lizzie, there is a link in my bio to get.

[Tony Kennett]

You connected to that or you can write her a letter when she's in federal prison. Now, you did see the shift there because it's all about the performance, right? You get to the end and it's hey, all right, you can give me money over here and buy my merch. Thanks for tuning in. As you can see, I've been crying. I tried to record myself crying, but even I realized that looks so terrible and so pathetic. Now you can be sure of one thing though, that whether it's this particular illegal immigrant in Indiana who again is responsible for the vehicular manslaughter of four individuals and the serious injury of another, or it's this fool attempting to again perhaps murder federal agents by ramming her vehicle into them. You can be rest assured that strong level headed socialist mayor Zoran Mamdani of New York will visit her or visit him in prison and talk about how awful and terrible and evil the police are. Case in point, Mamdani came out and gave a big speech to New York over the care and the treatment of an individual who had. After a domestic call in which police were alerted by members inside the house that this husband was being a domestic abuser. Apparently he's schizophrenic. Police showed up to the house and the guy starts brandishing a knife and starts running at the cops. The cop ended up shooting the guy. We'll play that clip in a second. Momdani however, says it's horrible that the man was shot. He should have been allowed to do his domestic abuse in peace. Or get the mental psychiatrist out there to like tell him how wonderful he is. And now he also can hear the voices cuz you got to affirm them. And as you said, I spoke with the chakraborty family and I visited Chavez.

[Scott Besant]

In the hospital and there is no.

[Tony Kennett]

Family should have to endure this kind of pain. Put the knife down. Put the knife down. Put the knife down. Put the knife down. Now you may notice as I, I think I, I referenced over on the Sean Spicer show today, as soon as the cops come in, the knife that he is holding, big long paring knife, he, he allows it to flip down. So where. Now he's holding it as though he's gonna stab somebody in a, in like a horror thriller movie. Look at him, he's got the knife up like this, you know, like, like all mentally healthy people do. Shuts the door to prevent him from getting out.

[Radio Crew Member]

Put the knife down.

[Tony Kennett]

Put the knife down. Put the knife down. So then he opens the door, rushes in with the knife anyway and then he gets shot. There is an FA and an fo. Most of you don't need to be told. In fact, the majority of you don't need to be told this. We got to bring the radio crew back from commercial. Thanks for sticking with us. It's the Tony Kinnit cast here on the Daily Signal into the sky. This is the Tony Kennett cast on 93 WIBC. There was one question that I was given today regarding all of this news because again, normally during the day, national correspondent, what is the number one thing that either party can do for the midterms? The number one thing, the only thing that matters because right now you have a lot of performative going on. You have this announcement, oh, the Clintons are being dragged before Congress. And oh man, you have all of this reporting on polls and interviews between Trump and NBC or Trump and this other outlet. And everyone's picking apart like a lot of, a lot of theater. And the question that a lot of Americans have is what's actually getting done? And so my answer, the number One thing for 2026, both sides have a weird relationship with the midterms right now. The left thinks they have it in the bag and it's already screwing them over. It's already shooting them in the foot. The right, however, understands that there are some issues, but I haven't really seen a lot of people yet come forward with, here's what we do about it. The answer is whichever side casts a vision. We've had this conversation before. Whichever side casts a vision and says, hey, here are these things going on, here's what they're going to do for you. When we arrest illegal immigrants and we get them off of the road, we get them off of the street, we send them back to where they came from, they don't get special licenses or perks or federal benefits or your tax dollars, then you get more housing, more jobs open. You are safer in your communities. Here's how, here's why, here's examples. Here we go. When you do that, by the way, Tom Holman is excellent at this point. No fluff, no, oh, you have to paint the picture of the worst, most evil person you can think of and then call everyone that. Nope, you don't have to do the Christian home approach. Just send Tom Holman out there, the calm airline pilot style guy, and he goes right up to the front level headed voice. Here you go, here's what's going on. That's the, that's the strategy. Americans respect that. They respond to that. When Scott Besant gets up and he illustrates certain details about the economy and what it's doing for you. When Lee Zeldin from the EPA gets up and announces there are fewer regulations on you and your business and therefore, if you're not a business owner, the businesses that you're interacting with, prices are going down, there's less restrictions. That's a benefit. That's a good thing. When the Trump administration announces foreign policy moves and then describes here's why it is better for Americans, Democrats have no idea why Americans weren't super furious about the narco boats that were getting blown up in the Caribbean. The reason Americans didn't mind is because they knew that was one less drug boat to make it to the shores of the United States. And so right now, the clear path forward, and I do mean it is a pretty clear path forward, is to make it way less about you. Don't get out there and go, I'm really great. I'm wonderful. Everyone look at me, I'm so. I'm strong and stunning and brave, and I'm Maxine Waters. I look like an old purse. But like, here I am. Instead of that, focusing on getting people driven results that's effective now, the right is starting to kind of figure some of that stuff out. Like I said, Trump administration sending out Scott Besant, sending out Marco Rubio, sending out Sean Duffy of the Transportation Department, sending out Lee Zeldin of the epa, and they're getting results. It's awesome. It's really cool to watch. The left, however, is, is sending out Alyssa Slotkin and Kamala Harris, because of course they are. So Gavin Newsom announcing that they are finally ready to start laying rail in California went over really, really poorly. So instead you get Elisa Slotkin. Now, Lisa Slotkin is still in a little bit of hot water alongside good old Mark Kelly of Arizona, who just came out against voter id. So he's really struggling. Elisa Slotkin was supposed to go have a conversation with the Department of Justice regarding a video that she made that had some concerns about. So instead of maybe releasing a press statement, she did what the Democrat influencers do. Shy of Rosa delora's purple hair, she gets out there, she holds the phone, she goes, hi, everyone, I am Elisa Slotkin of Michigan. I'm like a senator and I'm like, really stunning and brave. Here you go. Hi, everyone. I'm Senator Alyssa Slotkin from Michigan. Earlier today, I sent a letter to Attorney General Bondi and I sent a letter and like, I wrote it in cursive. It took me a while to put hearts instead of dots on all of the I's, but like, I did it because I'm like Elisa Slotkin to the lead Department of justice lawyer in D.C. jeanine Pirro, telling them one, I will not be complying with their inquiries and sitting down for an interview based on a 90 second video I filmed. I don't believe in crimes that last less than 90 seconds. So I'm like, stunning and brave. That's actually, if you change the letters in Slotkin, it actually spells brave. And number two, urging them to retain.

[Elizabeth Rose (Leftist TikTok Influencer)]

Their records on this case in case.

[Tony Kennett]

I decide to sue for infringement of My constitutional rights just to review the bidding. In November, myself and others filmed a 90 second video restating current law that simply says uniform military have a responsibility to refuse illegal orders. Now, just because I find her really, really annoying, I am absolutely going to pick apart that you don't begin a sentence with myself and others did this. No, not how you're supposed to say that. But, you know, good for her. You know, maybe while she's not sitting down for an interview with the Department of Justice, she can sit down with a grammar tutor and figure out how subjects and, you know, verbs work. Exciting. Now, over to the other side. Kamala Harris. Maybe Kamala doesn't have a 90 second interview to go talk about, but she needs to get back out there. She needs to announce she's here for the people. It's. It's go time. And so yesterday, right at the end of the show, because, you know, of course, after all of the crazy tech shenanigans of yesterday, right at the tail end, Kamala Harris headquarters account, her whole social media sphere for her presidential campaign, made an announcement, a kind of teaser. And it was this password attempt way too online. The babysitter's weird project 2025 was real. Headquarters is the password for Kamala HQ. And so then it's like login accepted. And then it's tomorrow. And a lot of people, yours included, thought, oh, my gosh, she's running for office. She actually is.

[Scott Besant]

Right?

[Tony Kennett]

Because she's kind of polling up there near Gavin Newsom in a couple of the Democrat primary polls. Certainly, though it's gotta be an announcement for running. It's not gonna be. I mean, maybe she's announcing a foundation. You have that every once in a while. Clinton Foundation. Get out there and announce, I'm having like a charity. Um, maybe. You never know. This could be something like that. No, it was much, much worse. I overestimated Kamala Harris. That's a problem. Kamala Harris, who is still in substantial debt after her presidential run, has decided it is time to release, like a publication or like an app. Like, you know, when people make fun of celebrities for releasing a wine Trump wine or Dan Ayroid vodka or you know what I'm talking about, like Gwyneth Paltrow gin, whatever. They make some kind of alcohol. At least when you get that, you get the alcohol out of it. Kamala has decided she's releasing an app for the youths, a Gen z application called Headquarters 67 for the Gen Z crowd, that the joke died like two months ago for them. But here you go.

[Department of Homeland Security Official]

Madam Vice President, what's going on with Kamala hq?

[Tony Kennett]

Well, I'm so glad you asked. I have good news. So Kamala HQ is turning into headquarters, and it's where you can go online to get basically the latest of what's going on and also to meet and revisit with some of our great courageous leaders. Oh, thank God. What I really needed was more Jasmine Crockett music videos and Rosa Delora calling herself the Rizzler. Yeah, that's what was missing. Oh, we're going to get more of. Of representative Hank Johnson singing with an out of tune guitar when we get Al Green teaching you how to shake your cane and scream about dastardly deeds undone. I also want to question the choice to dress up as Willy Wonka. Why? What?

[Scott Besant]

Why?

[Tony Kennett]

How did you have to kill and skin grimace from McDonald's to make this suit? I'm just saying.

[Scott Besant]

I.

[Tony Kennett]

What in the. I'm just confused. I've never seen a pinstripe cravat before either. That's wild. But we'll let her continue. She's. This is the you. Maybe it's a Gen Z thing. I don't understand. I'm too old. Elected leaders, community leaders, civic leaders, faith leaders, young leaders. I'm really excited about it. Yeah, you look excited. And I'll see you at the. There. Thank you. So all of these Democrat Gen Z influencers announced. They're so excited. They're. Oh, man, they're going to have podcasts. They've been wanting a left wing Joe Rogan for so long. They're so excited. They're so pumped. They. They're, they're just. They're ready to get out there and impress all of the youths. It literally is the how do you do, fellow youths meme. And in case you don't know the one I'm talking about, I. I'm talking about this.

[Radio Crew Member]

How do you do, fellow kids?

[Brianna Lyman (Federalist Elections Correspondent)]

What?

[Tony Kennett]

So we're gonna flip the chair around. We're gonna get all youth pastor and, you know, rap with the kids for a second. So let me tell you, on fleek says Kamala Harris. Now, you may out there be wondering, before we even get into this, hey, hang on a second here. Didn't she try this already and it failed miserably? Why, yes. Yes, she did. As some of you have already commented, they've already done Brat Summer, and it was a complete and utter fail. Taylor Swift ran out there and said, everyone vote for Kamala, and it didn't work. We've done this already, remember? Right after the election. Well, if Queen Latifah endorses her and you don't vote for. I don't know what it's gonna take. This is Hillary Clinton all over again. Um, when I do my impression of Hillary Clinton, I usually say it's. It's just chillin in Cedar Rapids again. Back when vine was a thing, six second videos, before we had shorts or TikTok or reels or anything like that, Hillary Clinton did this kind of weird cringy stuff and it was so awkward.

[Scott Besant]

I'm just chilling in Cedar Rapids.

[Tony Kennett]

Yeah, it's really awkward. Pokemon go to the polls. Sorry, radio crew, we're gonna send you to commercial. I don't want to get in trouble any more than I already am with the FCC tonight, it's the Tony Kinit cast here on the Daily Signal. Anyway, Pokemon go to the polls. I don't know who created Pokemon Go.

[Department of Homeland Security Official]

But I'm trying to figure out how.

[Tony Kennett]

We get them to have Pokemon go to the polls. I love it. I love it so much. It's great. Yeah. Kamala's here, everyone. Yeah, let's go. Get it up. We're excited. The youths, guys, I'm so. Oh, man. If there is one thing to learn about millennials and Gen Z, they are so ruthless when it comes to making fun of older people trying to fit in their generation. And yet here we are again. Again, the most embarrassing members of the left are people like Kamala Harris, like Hillary Clinton, that have tried so desperately to fit in with the youth. So let's see how some of the youths are doing. Kansas State representative, for example, who's crying big crocodile tears over transports.

[Department of Homeland Security Official]

Hi, everyone, this is Representative Lindsey Vaughn here at the State House. And I don't normally post these videos, but I felt compelled today. We just wrapped up in Judiciary Committee.

[Fulton County Official]

And.

[Department of Homeland Security Official]

In what was the most egregious abuse of our democratic legislative process that.

[Tony Kennett]

We'Re going to let illegals drive with commercial driver's licenses I have ever seen. We're going to mutilate children Committee passed.

[Department of Homeland Security Official]

Out House Bill 2426, which is Kobox driver's license ban, which makes it so that trans, intersex and gender diverse people can't change the gender marker on their driver's license and birth certificate. It makes it so that it has to be their sex assigned at birth.

[Tony Kennett]

Oh, no. Oh, so much worse. I mean, I was thinking, you know, like, terrible things happen to remarks like Jim Crow and poll taxes, that kind of a thing. Or, you know, maybe we were talking about Japanese Internment perhaps the foundation of a lot of bureaucratic institutions in this country that have taken a lot of rights from individuals. There are all kinds of. Of destructions to democracy that we could point to. But I'm an aw man. Someone who's mentally unstable can't force others to participate in that. We. We're not going to have more Loudoun county high school rapes. Oh, well, that's just. Oh, man, that's. That's just horrible. She cries about this for five straight minutes at the camera. This is what the youths are gonna go see. Is that it? That's really what you want? A bunch of Tumblr era crying and mourning, weeping, gnashing of teeth. That's the move. How much money is flowing into. They're so proud of themselves online, y'. All. They really think this is the strategy for 2026. I'm so glad the ride is leaving some of this stuff behind. They are. We're starting to. We're seeing a lot of the influencer age on the right is going away. It needs to get the rest of the way away. It's good because some like young swimsuit model coming on screen that can barely read and going, I like, totally like Trump. That's not convincing voters, boys and girls. Doesn't matter if it's on the left or the right. Doesn't matter. The influencer age should be over. So let the left do that this year. Let them. We're gonna bring the Raider crew back. It's the Tony Kennett cast here on the Daily Signal. It's the Tony Kennett cast on 93 WYBC. Welcome back to the Tony Knittcast here on the Daily Signal. Nationally syndicated, first on 93 WIBC. Just to refresh everybody on the kind of issues right now, the news that's coming out here in the United States. There are a series of violent crimes, a series of neglectful crimes which are being carried out because there are individuals who believe that their feelings and their affirmation of a group out there because they're not actually going to bring the migrants or the illegal immigrants into their homes. But out there somewhere, what we need to do is stop everything and stand in super duper solidarity. I didn't get to play this clip earlier on in the show just because, you know, it's just been a lovely week of various tech issues. But Prairie Village in Kansas had a beautiful big city council announcement where they again stopping everything to vote in favor of standing in solidarity against ICE with Minneapolis.

[Scott Besant]

We are not the ones making this political we are Minneapolis. Minneapolis is us.

[Tony Kennett]

No, you're in Kansas. Prairie Village, Kansas. You are not. You're not Minneapolis at all.

[Scott Besant]

Every city across the country is in the same spot. This administration has intentionally attacked cities that it does not like for things that it does not like because those cities don't bend a knee to the desires of an abuser.

[Tony Kennett]

So Ponytail Gandalf is making the case here that just because he uses big words, you're supposed to be impressed. That's it. We stand with Minneapolis because they refuse to be stood on by that which is standing on them of an abuser. We are them, they are us. Peace be with you and with your spirit. I'm Gandalf of the Ponytail. And this has been a Kansas moment. This is the move. This is what they're coming out with. Voters are seeing this. They're not impressed. There's nothing here. This was supposed to be the affordability moment, right? Is Mamdani doing anything to make New York affordable? Nope. He's going and visiting people in prison that have stabbed police or have attempted to stab police officers and said it's the cops fault. Where's the affordability? Was Bodhi Sandos. Where is he that told me that I went to AOC's rally and I stared at her in jeans that she was going to save everyone and give me my pudding and it didn't happen. Where's the affordability? All we're getting is a bunch of lecturing and whining and yelling and Maxine Waters shaken her jowls. And this is happening not just in the political institutions of town council meetings, but in these left wing churches. Now again, I'm, I'm using church very loosely here where you have like for example, one Presbyterian minister saying again, just going right into politicizing her entire again sermon to the point where she is now using the name of Christ to suggest that he would endorse the most wildly outlandish things. Nothing at all that has to do with truth or scripture or faith, anything like that. If Jesus were here today, he would be a clinic escort distracting women from the hatred, hatred of the protesters. Or an abortion doula holding women's hands.

[Department of Homeland Security Official]

And offering support and love as they end their pregnancies.

[Tony Kennett]

So again, in the book of Jeremiah, I knew you before you were formed. I knitted you in your mother's womb together. The idea that from the moment you are conceived, you are a person to God. Clearly, because Christ cited Jeremiah multiple times. The argument that Christ would sit there endorsing abortion. Hon, you can Read the gospels. Christ never endorsed sin. Go and sin no more was said by Jesus Christ quite a few times. Otherwise, what is he here to save people from? The political theatering that we saw in the sports arena in Delaware, that now they're incorporating DEI hymns into church. And I don't mean DEI hymns is like, oh, they're about diversity. I mean, no, literally the term DEI is being used in these fake hymns in Delaware churches. Our neighbors in. I'm gonna de ice our neighborhoods. Invite our neighbors in. I'm gonna deice our neighborhood. Invite our neighbors in. We're gonna heal this world with love.

[Department of Homeland Security Official]

Tear down the fences.

[Tony Kennett]

Tear down the fence. Slip my wrists, yeah Put scissors in my ears. All right, again, huge shout out to leftist ladies as they age looking like one of two people. They either look like Jennifer Welch slash Nicole Wallace or they look like the weird short haired angry lesbian. You know I'm talking about. It's always one of the two. There's never like a middle ground. And by the way, when I say that, I mean that I've noticed that as independent and right wing ladies age, they can look like all manner of different people age naturally. Normally one turns into like an ang on the left. One turns into an angry, bitter, old short haired troll and the other turns into an angry over botox blonde troll. It's very, very weird. It's a strange phenomenon. But alas, making up hymns and suggesting that you need to uproot Christianity or uproot Judaism or uproot, for example, the Church of the Latter Day Saints, uproot Mormonism in order to constitute and encourage all of this bizarre nonsense from the far left. It's not going to endear Americans. There is one thing I wanted to mention to the crowd here before we let the radio crew go to the evening and get into some of the bonus tone a section of the show, we covered the situation regarding Nancy Guthrie. Again, if I'm pronouncing that name wrong, I don't mean that out of, out of disrespect. There was a report by TMZ that they had a ransom note. They made a big, huge media blitz about it. And I said, I don't like that. And I don't like that because TMZ has a record of doing some sketchy stuff. Well, here we go to those imposters who are trying to take advantage and profit from this situation. We will investigate and ensure you are held accountable for your actions. We have made one arrest related to an imposter ransom demand and a complaint will be presented to a magistrate judge later today. The ransom was fake, by the way. One of the reasons that that ransom was presented because if you provide something like that to tmz, they'll pay you for it. They'll pay for it. You have like a photo that you took. You were up on somebody's lawn taking pictures through their window. It's a celebrity. They'll pay for you. You record someone having a mental breakdown in the street while they're being attended to by police or medical officials, they'll pay for it. That kind of of parasitic journalism also needs to go. I'm good. I hope that that person who wrote that letter gets the max sentence thrown out. And we're going to continue on the live stream. Get to Victor Davis Hansen in a second radio crew. Take care. It's the Tony Kinnit cast here on the Daily Signal. Now, a couple of points of order real quick here. There are some reports that I am getting, at least according to one article, Dan Bongino, who also uses Rumble Studios. So again, just as a little bit of a disclaimer here, our show broadcasts to Rumble Studios, who then sends the show to YouTube and rumble and X and then a couple of TV affiliate partners. And Dan Bongino is now claiming that after a couple of his shows this week have also crashed and glitched out, he has claimed that attackers have crashed his live stream. I don't know if that's what's going on. I don't know if it's perhaps our network attached storage that is looping on the router and knocking stuff off. I don't think so. I don't have it set up that way, but we're not quite sure the ins and outs of some of the issues. Thanks for sticking with us. Really appreciate it. We are sorry that yesterday's show was cut a little bit short. Short. We didn't even get a chance to thank the incredible individuals who have been members of the YouTube channel, given financially to us or have given super chats. Again, you guys don't have to do that. But a huge thank you to individuals like Maggie, Bogdan and Winter for being members for such a such a long time. We appreciate you for sticking around. There is one question that I do want to answer and kind of a quick mail time before we get into some of the bonus tonus in the Victor Davis Hansen, this would be from cadence. 4527. She said earlier this evening, what I want to know is how many of these deadly accidents happened during the biden years, you and me both. And I'm doing something about that. I have reached out to a couple of individuals who are investigative journalists and receipt takers across a couple of different outlets and some independent journalists that I'm friendly with. And we are currently attempting to compile during the last decade the illegal immigrants who have committed vehicular manslaughter. So again, either DUIs resulting in deaths, especially commercial driver's license accidents. It's very difficult on some of these, the way that some of the states happen to write these crimes down. Whether or not individuals are legal immigrants or are work visa immigrants or are illegal immigrants. Certain states write those things down the same way. Looking at you, Nevada. So we're looking into that for you. I can't give you a timeline on it, but we are taking a look at that. Next question from YouTube channel member sick of the BS MLD can Pennsylvanians bring a class action suit against Shapiro for endangering our lives? No. And here's why you can't. First of all, prosecutorial discretion. If you as an executive decide there are some laws that you don't really want to enforce a certain way, you don't have to and it's the people's fault who elected you to office that you remain in office. There are a couple of states that have different recall and impeachment procedures for their chief executive. It varies widely. It's a state constitutions or and commonwealth constitutions are quite an incredible thing. But at least in terms of Pennsylvania, no, that can't be done. Also for a class action lawsuit, there have to be specific, identified detail damages. Potential risk, like for example, being charging a parent with neglect. Even if nothing happened to the child, they can still be charged with neglect because something could have happened while for example, they were left in a hot car while the parent went into the bar. That kind of a thing. Even if the child is fine, no damage is technically done, there's still a risk of it. For a class action lawsuit, there need to be a series of damages that can be identified. Now again, this is why I suggested at the very beginning of the show that the best thing for Indiana to do in this particular instance would be to set up a series of patrols in collaboration with federal law enforcement to start checking commercial driver's licenses. Because this is, this is getting out of hand really, really quickly and oh, I don't want to be in a show your papers kind of country. That's not what a show your paper kind of country means either if there is a crisis or an epidemic of law breaking activity. You know, it just so happens that that be kind of the kind of the situation here. So that said, there's one other particular piece of news that I wanted to dive into. We'll have to save that for afterward because it is our privilege at the Daily Signal to work with Victor Davis Hansen. He's an excellent, excellent scholar, a brilliant historian. Anytime that I get to chat with him, for example, if we have him on an interview for the show, are getting to sit down, have a chat about whatever it is in the media, on the record, off the record, the man's got insight by the pound. And of course, going through the terrible surgeries that he did, we like a lot of you had him in our prayers. So we're going to swing over to a quick reset of the commercial break for the TV affiliates. We're going to come back and Victor Davis Hansen with his first video since he has gone away for surgeries. It's the Tony Kennett cast here on the Daily Signal. This is the Tony Kennett cast on 93 WYBC.

[Scott Besant]

I've been off for a while, as you may have noticed. This is the first one I've done in over a month, so bear with me. I want to talk though very quickly today about what's going on in Minnesota. What I'm really disturbed about is the utter hypocrisy that we're seeing with this street insurrectionary movement. They have canonized Renee Goode and Alex Preddy for resisting ICE officers and they were tragically shot and they become martyrs. Why did the left tell us that it was perfectly okay for somebody to go to a demonstration with a military grade semi automatic weapon with extra clips and just stick it in his waistband, visible sight of anybody, and then get into a brawl with law enforcement officers at the same time. Tell us if anybody had a concealed weapon anywhere on January 6th, they needed to be put in jail. We were told that over 400 people were convicted or would be convicted of felonies for assaulting officers. They were sacrosanct. We're also told that five officers were killed on January 6. We know that none were. None. All of our most prominent liberals are saying the state of Minnesota has a right to do what? Occupy federal property, Attack federal officers, prevent the enforcement of federal law? I thought the left didn't like states rights. I thought they said that this was insurrectionary. Hello, this is Victor Davis Hansen for the Daily Signal. I've been off for a while, as you may have noticed. I had a very quickly a Mucous adenoma. Carcinoma, that's a kind of a long name for a very rare non smokers type of lung cancer. And I was kind of not diagnosed for most of last year. I had a problem with breathing and people thought it was valley fever, pneumonia, long Covid, etc. But I finally was diagnosed in September, October and it was removed the first last day of the year and everything went well. The cancer was removed, there was no lymph node and the whole lobe was taken out. I thought I was. I woke up very happy in the emergency room. But then I'm 72 and apparently there was an arterial aneurysm and two veins popped. So I lost very quickly a lot of blood. And thank God for the skilled surgeon at Stanford. He got me right back in. They took out all of the things they had just closed and started all over again. Opened up and they found them just in time. I had five transfusions. And so this is all a long explanation why I wasn't back. I thought I'd be back in about three or four weeks, but I'm still pretty weak. I have anemia. I got to get my blood volume back up and I have never had it before but I have this atrial fibrillation. Fibrillation. And it's kind of a new thing for me. But I'm working through that. As far as the carcinoma itself, there were good and bad signs. You know how that is. People say well it was kind of big bad, it spread through the airspace is bad. But on the other side it didn't get them the lymph nodes. And so they came to the consensus that these things come back about 40%, 60% they don't. And now if I get better, they're offering me kind of a, kind of a, you know, it's chemotherapy and it doesn't have a great success rate, maybe 5% increase. So I'm going to make that decision. I only mention that because I'm going to try to come back slowly and periodically. But I can't predict when I will be here given these therapies that people are suggesting. I haven't made a decision yet. I don't depends on if I can get a little stronger. I want to talk though very quickly today about what's going on in Minnesota. And I know we've. People have talked to death, the insurrectionary nature of Tim Waltz and of course Mayor Fry and Ellison, the Attorney General. But what I'm doing really disturbed about is the utter hypocrisy that we're seeing with this street insurrectionary movement. Now what do I mean by that? There is no coherent principle. None. Let me just give you some examples of what I. I mean, they have canonized Renee Goode and Alex Pretty Pretty for resisting ICE officers and they were tragically shot. And they become martyrs. Do you remember on January 6th, diminutive Ashley Babbitt? She was a 14 year military veteran. 14 years in the military. She didn't try to attack anybody. She committed a misdemeanor by going through a broken window. And there facing her were armed officers. They didn't react. They didn't shoot her. Officer Byrd did at a perpendicular, shot her lethally. What was her reaction to the left? They demonized her character. They said she deserved it. They went through her entire past and they said that anybody who goes resist a federal officer should have known what's happening to them. Take Officer Byrd himself. Did you know that no one knew who he was for months on end? The media, the government, popular culture, they all conspired to hide his identity. We don't do that in America with anybody who lethally shoots an unarmed suspect. Think Officer Chauvin. And he didn't shoot anybody, but he was held responsible for George Floyd and his picture was all over the papers in a nanosecond. But not Officer Byrd. And yet we seem to know the names of the officers, both Hispanic and I'm not going to name them that were involved in these shootings of these two protesters, Preddy and Good. And the left tried to dox them. Take masks for example. We were told that masks were absolutely essential. Not just for health reasons, but sometimes demonstrators wore them. And the reason we were told antifa wears them is because they didn't want to have their identities put out into the popular discourse. And people would learn who they are and attack them. They don't offer any such latitude for ICE officers. They wear masks only for one reason. Not because they want to be ghoulish or to hurt people under the mask of anonymity, but they do it so that you don't go after their families or they show up at their house. So the left has another completely opposite position on that. Finally, how about guns? We were told again and again this was an armed insurrection on January 6. But no one was found armed within the Rotunda or the Capitol itself. There were some reports that people in the larger demonstration on the grounds might have had a firearm in their car or one, I think person might have had it on. And you would have thought all hell Broke loose. This was considered just outrageous that anybody would go, even one out of thousands might be armed. And yet in the case of Mr. Alex Preddy, he had a very dangerous type of gun, a military grade gun with a sight on it and two extra clips with perhaps over 40 rounds at his disposal tucked in to his. We saw in one video, an earlier video tucked into his waistband. And he had it right as he confronted officers. My interest is not necessarily in the tragic circumstances of his death, but why did the left tell us that it was perfectly okay for somebody to go to a demonstration with a military grade semiautomatic weapon with extra clips and just stick it in his waistband, invisible sight of anybody, and then get into a brawl with law enforcement at the same time? Tell us if anybody had a concealed weapon anywhere on the January 6th and they needed to be put in jail. I could go on and on. I'll just finish with a couple of observations. We were told that over 400 people were convicted or would be convicted of felonies for assaulting officers. They were sacrosanct. We're also told that five officers were killed on January 6th. We know that none were. None. Some maybe four or five committed suicide for unexplained reasons. One had a stroke. Brian, Officer Secknik the next day. But there was no such reference for the ICE officers in Minneapolis. People cheered on the fact that they were attacked and injured and hit by cars. This was just wonderful to do this. Nobody had ever thought, well, wait a minute, we were championing the Capitol Police so they wouldn't be attacked. And the, the protesters were all arrested that did attack for the most part. And they were sentenced to long sentences. Long, long jail terms. I don't think anybody in Minneapolis will be arrested, indicted, convicted and jailed for what they have done to ICE officers attacking them. I'll finish with states rights. I thought the left didn't like states rights. I thought they said that this was insurrectionary. You remember when Barack Obama, I think it was 2010, Mayor Jan Brewer of Arizona, she was just so desperate of the open border between Arizona and Mexico and the failure of the Obama administration to do anything to enforce their own federal law, that she began crafting a state force to secure the Arizona border. What did the Obama DOJ do under Eric Holder? They sued and they said this is states rights. That the federal government essentially has a right not to enforce their own law, and no one can enforce it for them if they're not federal officials. So much for states rights. And what do we see in Minnesota all of our most prominent liberals are saying the state of Minnesota has a right to do what? Occupy federal property, attack federal officers, prevent the enforcement of federal law. And if federal officers are in danger, not to send out local or state or county support to help them. In other words, they're taking the states rights argument right out of the playbook of everybody. In the long, sad tradition from John J. Calhoun and Jefferson Davis all the way to George Wallace in 1963 sitting standing in the door of the University of Alabama. These are states rights people. Kind of when the federal government is trying to enforce free abortion everywhere, or they're trying to insist on gun registration and all of the states have to meet federal standards, or they're trying to make sure that everybody has a DEI special restroom, then everybody's for federal government. But not here in Minneapolis, not in Minnesota, not in the blue states. All of a sudden these Democrats are reverting to their original form. And we should remember original because the neo Confederate movement was a democratic project. In other words, what we're watching in Minneapolis is an incoherent, in one fashion, irrational attitude theme agenda where there is no consistent philosophy about law enforcement, about people who protest, about people who bring arms to these protests, about people who are shot, about the reputations of people who come in contact with the police. It just simply whatever the left thinks is useful for the moment, they make the necessary adjustments and it's not going to stop. It's not going to stop. And they feel that they've got Donald Trump in an untenable position, that if he brings in federal troops to enforce federal law or to protect federal property, then he's a Nazi, he's a Gestapo, he's fascist. And if he doesn't, he's weak and cannot, he cannot insist on law and order and treat Americans as Americans first and people of Minnesota or California or particular states second. Second. I'm going to be talking more about this dilemma in our next short video, but for now, this is Victor Davis Hansen. Thank you for listening. This is the first one I've done in over a month, so bear with me. Victor Davis Hansen for the Daily Signal. Thank you for tuning in to the day.

[Tony Kennett]

Really good to have him back. Really, really good to have VDH back. Now, a little bit of end of news stuff for the day and again, a little bit of bonus tonus here here. Because, you know, tech issues, be as they may, we're gonna do a little extra stuff. I don't like being taken away from the crew earlier. So a couple of Quick things. Let's talk about Fulton County, Georgia. I've been meaning to talk about this. There've been a lot of speculations made, of course, Tulsi Gabbard scene among the FBI raid where they went and they, as I believe Chris Van Hollen as well as Senator Warner were crying about. They seized voting machines. They seized them. They took him and then they what? They licked them? They just. They're just looking at him. I mean, investigations I thought were fine. You know, the whole nothing to hide business. Very, very, very upset people. So Fulton county officials moved on Wednesday to regain control of thousands of 2020 election records seized by federal agents last week. An emergency motion has been filed in federal court and has gone absolutely nowhere. As county leaders warn the investigation could have have sweeping implications for elections nationwide. That's according to a CBS report, sweeping. They've investigated the ballots. I have said this before. I will say it again. I am with a lot of Americans is why I really didn't care for Kristi Gnomes response after the death of Renee Good. Yes, there should be an investigation. Absolutely, there should be an investigation, because then you get to release the results of the investigation. I like that. I do. I want the FBI to look at the stuff and then tell us what they found. And if they find something that's really terrible and awful and evil and we knew all along that it was exactly gonna be that bad, then prosecutions, and if it turns out there was nothing, then, yay, America. We all go home a little bit happier. Or at least it puts some things to bed. And that's why, by the way, at least up until right now, I haven't been out here making a lot of statements about it. I am sitting here patiently mostly, and waiting to see what it is they release about these election records. Because there are a lot of different journalists on the left, the right, the center, that are saying everything. And they're getting very ahead of their skis. And I think that it's rather unwise. I do. I'm going to wait. They went in there to say, we're going to take a look at some stuff. There are some shenanigans that appear to be afoot. But because, again, there have been recent court decisions in Georgia, evidence that has been produced that shows, yeah, there has been some fraudulent behavior that has gone on in the state of Georgia regarding elections. That is an undeniable fact. So if the FBI says, okay, now we believe there's enough to go in here and take a look at some of this 2020 information business. All right, cool. Now, this has Fulton county officials out here shaken in their waiters going, arrests are coming. Arrests are coming. One if by land, two if by ballot. They're coming.

[Fulton County Official]

Well.

[Tony Kennett]

Oh, you're not gonna. You are gonna play this clip. You sure are. Come on, you can do it. I believe in you. I want to hear this man quiver. Look at him. He's scared and nervous because he thinks that they're gonna come drag him away. Are you kidding me, man? I was excited to see the Fulton county official, the county's chair himself, express his. His deep abiding concern that they were going to come in and start slapping cuffs on people here, there and everywhere. One more time, man. It's just one of those days, I tell you what. Well, also, the president responded to accusations that arrests are coming. And may I say again, reasonable response by the president. What is happening in fault.

[Radio Crew Member]

I'm not doing anything. But the FBI went in because it's been under under, I guess, review for years. The cheating that took place in Fulton, what are they looking for? And in that particular.

[Tony Kennett]

Nobody knows what's in the war and.

[Radio Crew Member]

What are you going to find out? Look, why would anybody be upset that they went in and they got the ballots? I guess right again. They did this. That's been under review and under investigation for four years. And now they got a court order. You know, they got a court order signed by.

[Tony Kennett]

But nobody knows what the evidence arrested.

[Radio Crew Member]

But liberal judge signed a court order allowing them to go in and pick them up. Well, you're going to know what the ballot say because they're right now inspecting the ballot. I'm not involved in it, but they are inspecting and checking.

[Tony Kennett]

Again, I am not, at least for me, me here. I'm not too upset by that. They have the judicial warrant that's supposed to be the super duper ultra gold standard supreme du jour, by which we get certain information and then warrants carried out and federal law enforcement then goes in. That's a. It's not just an administrative warrant, that judicial warrant in place. So what's the issue? Well, the issue is that we have the. The extra super duper fear that the end is nigh. I did get that clip. Here you go.

[Fulton County Official]

Well, I'm told that. I mean, I've gotten. I received a call on Monday before, last Wednesday before the raid that there were going to be arrests in Georgia. Secretary of State, his deputy, Sterling, I believe his name is me, and two or three others. That did not happen on Monday. It didn't happen on Tuesday. But lo and behold, on Wednesday, the FBI shows up. And in addition to the FBI showing up, when Tulsi Gabbard showed up and we'd heard a rumor that she may be coming, I couldn't believe it.

[Tony Kennett]

Oh, man, it's crazy. I can't believe that a member of the intelligence community showed up with a group of agents from an intelligence community. No way. Oh, my gosh. What next? This is like them being surprised that. Well, I would say surprised when you have committees that are set up for financial reasons. And then Chris Van Hollen immediately starts going after Scott Besant over Department of Homeland Security or Department of justice matters. You don't get to turn around. I was amazed. I saw her, thought she was an app. I thought she was a figment of my imagination. And there she was, Tulsi Gabbard in the flesh.

[Fulton County Official]

But I didn't meet her, didn't talk to her, but she was, in fact, there.

[Tony Kennett]

So I press. Goodness, man. He's worried you're going to doubt him. Like, you have to, like, explain that you promise you saw her in person. Like, she's not just your fictional girlfriend from Canada.

[Fulton County Official]

That leads me to believe in any rational, thinking person that there's something sinister going on here. There's something bigger than just the FBI confiscating the record.

[Tony Kennett]

All right, I'm going to let you guys in on a little secret. It's not Darth Vader. If Darth Vader shows up, the red lightsaber turns on all of us. Yeah, something sinister might be up. Yeah. If you're out there, you know, just on a park bench enjoying a delicious sandwich, and all of the sudden, you see a bunch of people run by you, and on the back of their vests, it says bomb squad. You know what? Yeah. That's a reason for concern. You might get up and start running with them. But in. In this particular instance, if you just see the Director of National Intelligence show up with the Federal Bureau of Investigation to investigate something that intelligence agencies have previously been shown to have been involved in, given the records that we have. Well, what's the issue? What's. What's the problem? What more sinister going on? Incredible news conference. Oh, man, I love it.

[Fulton County Official]

Because that they took. So that's why I say that. But nothing happened. Now, after the FBI raid on Wednesday.

[Tony Kennett]

Do you see how quickly he glossed over that? He's like, I was told. I was told by my second cousin. She was called by Carol, of course, you know, Carol down from the diner and down at the Diner, they had something on the menu that was reported by Clara. Last week they called me over a text message over on the Facebook that said there's gonna be arrests are coming. And then I saw Tulsi Gabbard and I thought, oh, no. And then nothing happened. But anyway, do you guys have family or friends that tell stories and they never get to the point and then when they finally get to the point, it's nothing, Nothing whatsoever. Like you wasted all of my time on what is hopefully an amazing payoff. Nothing. I hope you're ready for nothing. Incredible, incredible stuff from, from the left going into 2026. Now, the reason I play this is because yesterday on cnn, on Abby Phillips show with Scott Jennings, a good friend of mine, Brianna Lyman, I think she's been on the show before. Think friend of the show. She is the elections correspondent for the Federalist. And the Federalists, unlike a lot of outlets that have beats for particular categories. So you might have like an education reporter, you might have an, you know, national security reporter, foreign policy reporter. The Federalist team does something really cool, which is that they essentially, Sean smells something really stinky and then he assigns the Federalist teams to a specific event and then they go and investigate every single facet is why they won the Dow prize this last year. Really incredible work. Brianna Lineman is one of these people who keeps a lot of receipts. You know, that's near and dear to my heart by all of the clips that I try to get to play on the show. Tech issues or no? Well, she went on Abby Phillips evening show that everyone tunes in to watch Scott Jennings for and they got into a bit of a tizzy about Georgia and Abby Phillips thought that she would play a little ball with Brianna Lyman. Didn't go as expected.

[Abby Phillips]

Votes. What are we to make of all of this?

[Brianna Lyman (Federalist Elections Correspondent)]

Well, I think given that under Joe Biden we had millions of illegal aliens come in, it's definitely fair to be worried that there could be non citizens voting. We know that non citizen voting does happen, even if it is rare according to some on the left.

[Tony Kennett]

I just want to make this clear that at some point when I am on this show, my grimaces and smirks when people from the other side of the aisle are talking will be much more refined than my dude over here. And again, that's very, very petty. That means absolutely nothing. I just want to make it clear when you're on a panel, someone else from the other side of the aisle is talking. You want to give them the old smirk, the grimace, the stink eye. You Smell something rough. You can do better than this. This is mild constipation. You need full on Imodium facial expressions if you're going to do this. Right.

[Abby Phillips]

How frequently is that?

[Brianna Lyman (Federalist Elections Correspondent)]

Well, if you want to list it, I actually have some for you. Hold on one second, please.

[Abby Phillips]

Like actual numbers?

[Brianna Lyman (Federalist Elections Correspondent)]

Yeah, that's page six or seven.

[Tony Kennett]

So Abby Phillips says, well, how much is this actual, this voting fraud going on? How many instances are there? And Brianna says, well, I brought receipts. Here are the numbers. And so you can see a little bit of hesitancy because Abby Phillips is known for pitching something to some individual somewhere and saying, well, do you have any proof of this? And then if they give her proof, she pivots away quicker than a child on a spinning office chair. So Brianna is like, well, yeah, I have the number. Just let me file over. I had to bring a, you know, suitcase to keep all of these particular incidents in one file. I know.

[Brianna Lyman (Federalist Elections Correspondent)]

I actually wanted to have a lot of quotes for you guys. All right, here we go. So a Georgia audit found 20 non citizens registered to vote. Nine of them ended up voting in a previous selection. Now let me finish. In Michigan.

[Department of Homeland Security Official]

How many years?

[Tony Kennett]

So she lists the first thing. They go, wow, 20, 20. Well, that, that's not the point. Again, she's reading a list of events. And I don't know if you guys know this, but in arithmetic you add the numbers together. Earlier on in the show when I was listing illegal immigrants that had participated in auto accidents that resulted in deaths, that wasn't an exhaustive list. It so turns out that you add those numbers together and you have a really horrible situation that is a part of a pattern.

[Brianna Lyman (Federalist Elections Correspondent)]

And you know, it's funny when you guys mock small amounts, but let's remember that Marionette Miller Meeks won her 2020 election by six votes.

[Abby Phillips]

Imagine if there was fraudulent undocumented immigrants.

[Brianna Lyman (Federalist Elections Correspondent)]

No, my point is, is that some elections are decided quite literally on the margin.

[Abby Phillips]

Every vote counts, but not a single.

[Tony Kennett]

Another small note, if you host a show and you are going to host people from the left and the right to do some talking, some cross talk, some arguments, things like that, may I humbly recommend not being a condescending jerk to everyone that you have at the table. There is a leftist that is making a point, then you let them make the point. And if your point is better than theirs, then you follow up with the answer. Same with the person on the right, whether populist, conservative, libertarian, whatever you want to call it.

[Brianna Lyman (Federalist Elections Correspondent)]

That doesn't just because it doesn't impact a presidential election does not mean that it is not worth.

[Abby Phillips]

What is the percentage of. Of fraudulent non citizen voting in America?

[Brianna Lyman (Federalist Elections Correspondent)]

I don't have the percentage.

[Tony Kennett]

But what does that even mean? What is the percentage of fraudulent non citizen voting in America? What are you talking about? That's not a. It's. Throwing out nonsensical questions is a gotcha. Again, there's a phenomenally classic Spongebob clip where they believe that Mr. Krabs is a robot. And so to do an interrogation so that Squidward and SpongeBob can identify whether Mr. Krabs is a robot, SpongeBob goes up to Mr. Krabs and says, what color is my underwear? And then slaps him across the face. And Squidward chides. Spongebob's like, no, you blundering idiot. I think that's. You have to actually ask real, actual, genuine questions to discern something. I know, weird example, but what are you going to do?

[Brianna Lyman (Federalist Elections Correspondent)]

You guys wouldn't cut me off. Let me just finish.

[Department of Homeland Security Official]

Exactly.

[Tony Kennett]

I don't know.

[Brianna Lyman (Federalist Elections Correspondent)]

Hold on a second, hold on a second. 41 non citizens cast a ballot in North Carolina in 2016. Hundred foreigners registered to vote in California by the state DMZ. They were not citizens in 2018.

[Abby Phillips]

Oh, did they? And were they hot?

[Brianna Lyman (Federalist Elections Correspondent)]

Did they vote?

[Abby Phillips]

Did they vote?

[Tony Kennett]

It doesn't matter.

[Brianna Lyman (Federalist Elections Correspondent)]

Registered to vote as a non Citizen is legal. 18 U.S. code section 1015 subsection F says that anyone who knowingly makes a false statement when registering to vote.

[Abby Phillips]

Here's the thing, here's the thing, here's the thing. I wanted you to go through it because I think it illustrates in and of itself how actually incredibly rare this is.

[Tony Kennett]

If I ask you because I am skeptical of a point that you're making. Let's say, for example, in tonight's Victor Davis Hansen clip, he used the term military grade to describe a firearm. I disagree with the framing of that because this particular Smith and Wesson is not. It's just a standard civilian pistol that's very well known to misfire quite often. And if you said, well, no, actually it is, then I would ask you to come up with a list for me of the time when official sources have referred to firearms as military grade instead of as a term to scare people away from firearms. And then theoretically you, in this hypothetical, you would present to me a list of things. And if I genuinely want you to list the things, then I will sit there and I will listen to you list the things. Because I asked you, hey, you got a list. You're like, yeah, Tony, I got a list. Here you go. And then you read the list, and then we talk about the various items on the list. But if while someone is reading the list, you talk over them, you give them a bunch of grief over this, and then after, like, two or three things where she's finally got a chance to talk, you then cut her on said. So this is why I wanted you to go over that, because I wanted everyone to know how rare. You only said there were three things. And she's like, yeah, but I've got like 50 of them on this page alone.

[Abby Phillips]

And even when, you know, the Heritage foundation went looking for non citizens voting over the course of, what was it, 10 years, 10 plus years, they found 77 cases. Actually, more than 10 years, about 24 years, they found 77 instances of non voters voting, and they went looking. Okay, so.

[Tony Kennett]

So now we get to what is called the. The finders fallacy, which is that no one found it, so it must not be there. So when one of the most famous journalistic stories in all of history, Upton Sinclair, right, he goes through the Chicago meat processing facilities and he discovers that they're filthy and they're disgusting and they're riddled with mold and rats and therefore rat droppings. And it's nasty. It is disgusting in these facilities. One of the things that the defense then brought out in federal court to defend and hopefully try to prevent the FDA from becoming a thing and regulating certain things about food cleanliness. This one of the things they said is, well, we've never found anything. There were no other journalists finding anything, so therefore it didn't happen. I have a lot of respect for a lot of people at the Heritage Foundation. None of them are omniscient. Not a one of them. I have a lot of respect for a lot of investigators out there. None of them are omniscient. Just because something has not been found in an older study doesn't mean it did not occur. And again, I'm not. I am not one of the individuals. I hate to break it to you, I'm not one of the individuals that thinks that there was enough voting fraud evidence at this moment to have overturned and changed the 2020 election. I'm just from. From my read of the data, I could be dead wrong. It's one of the reasons I don't really talk about it a whole lot. I'm still kind of undecided. Because we're still finding things crazy. I know I'm personally not very sure. So I keep my mouth shot on A lot of it. But when you come out with this and a fallacy is what you are leaning on, it only endears people to any counter narrative where now they believe that not only are you stupid, you're actively covering up for the fraud itself.

[Abby Phillips]

Listen, if this were about people non citizens voting, maybe that's the case. Then please help me explain why Trump is still obsessed with Georgia where he was looking for 11,000 votes, where Georgia, they've got voter ID, they've got tough voting laws. Why is he saying that Georgia was a fraudulent state that he.

[Tony Kennett]

So there you go. That's the final gotcha. Well, I mean, there's not illegals voting. So therefore why do we need all of these voter ID laws? The point is not the rarity of the crime. For example, at the beginning of the show, because absolutely this is coming full circle. I cited an illegal immigrant from Kyrgyzstan who in the United States obtained a commercial driver's license from Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro in July of 2025 for a fraudulent trucking company in California. And I say fraudulent because they lie on their safety standards and who works for them. That individual, after the results of a pattern of behavior, killed four Amish individuals in eastern central Indiana and gravely injured another. And the question when people ask, should we be looking more at standards for commercial driver's licenses and how illegals are getting this stuff in the first place, what is the response? Well, it's so rare, it almost never happens. You're more likely to be bitten by a shark in a pet store that they come with all this kind of, oh, it's so rare, you don't even need to worry about it. That's not the point. The point is not the rarity. The point is whether or not there is a pattern of behavior that is made possible. Whether there is a leak in the pipe that is caused by a crappy pipe fitting. Because the laws are written in a certain way that allow individuals to get away with things, this creates problems and headaches and will lead to more deaths. If there is a chance and a place for voter fraud to take place, it will take place. The reason you child proof your house is not because you expect your toddler is going to impale themselves on every corner of every surface in the house. It is in case one day they trip and fall and their head flies towards the corner of the glass coffee table. God willing, there will be something that prevents them from committing toddler suicide. That's the reason this idea that rarity determines the morality of laws is stupid. And the left has decided that either it, it's a moral good for you to just affirm criminal behavior because after all they've never been affected by it. They're not going to be the ones housing these individuals. And then when you point out that criminal behavior is still criminal, they'll call you evil or, or unfriendly or fascist for enforcing it because they don't want to enforce it. They have prosecutorial discretion. And then built on top of that, when you point out that these consistent patterns appear, they then call you racist and homophobic and stupid and a conspiracy theorist and all this other nonsense. The majority of Americans have seen this strategy play out time and time and time again. And if they're going into 2026 with this, with this, Midterms are about people coming out to vote for people. And Congress is about as inspiring as pneumonia. So what you need to do is create a compelling reason to go out the, the middle aged left lady crowd. They're already gonna come out because they think that if they blow enough rape whistles and, and ram enough cars then they've, they've, you know, we saved the city kind of nonsense. But you do need more than just the angry leftist Karen vote to win an election. See 2024. So what the right needs to do is continue figuring out how to get calm, level headed individuals out there to say no, you're a child. These are the details, these are the receipts, this is the list. This is why I have it right in front of me. I'm competent, I'm prepared. Here you go. Well, that's a case to be made that's actually doing things that are successful. Now one of the things that the right does that is really, really rough is they get out there and they yell for stuff like the left yells for things. They might be yelling for things that are good, but they don't actually take into account in time often, and I'm guilty of this as well, a lot of the time of how certain things are going to take place or how practical things are going to be. Great. Case in point, at the beginning of the show I said I don't know how practical it is, but I think that we need to reactivate our way stations that are often barren and empty when you drive by them on the interstate and start using them like the Tennessee Highway Patrol does and checking on major thoroughfares in this country. The immigration status of a lot of semi truck drivers. A lot of times though, we make that the only kind of policy that we call for. And there are a Lot of people on more of the populist side of the right that just call for things because they're popular. We should just ban this. We should do. And they call for very big sweeping things, charge them with treason and throw them away. When you do that, it's just as unhelpful as when the left gets out there and says this nonsense as well. It does take a lot of marathon style, not short sprints, but marathon style effort to do this consistently over a long time to fix the country. And that's a really tough truth, really. And there's not something that has a simple answer for. We have a conversation with Wade Stotts that I'm going to be uploading here pretty soon where we talk about this. This when you actually get people ready for the marathon. Boomers understand this, by the way, because the Reagan revolution didn't just happen. There was build up to it. There was dissatisfaction and a call for competence and understanding and common sense that was brought forward. And it's something that in this era of instant gratification, Americans just don't necessarily tap into anymore or willing to put up with for that sacrifice. It's something that we need to return to, to. And I'm, I'm hopeful over the next couple of months that we will see, especially after tax season goes through and we start to see the results of the big beautiful bill and we start to actually see some of these results rolling forward and ego is put aside in place of actual definitive progress for people again, which there's been a ton of so far. Then you're not going to have to do little weird social media accounts and things like that that you can actually drive forward a vision to where we're going. That's really freaking sweet. One of the things, and I'll end it with this, you know, a little extra bonus tonus is fun, but I realized when I've, you know, started to kind of ramble, the most excited moment for me, the most exciting moment for me, when Trump announced his reelection bid in 2023, he got up in front of people and by the way, at that point I had donated $50 to the DeSantis campaign campaign because I really do and still do really like Ron. I think he's excellent. But the minute that I was convinced to support Trump in the primary was during his announcement speech. Trump had talked a lot about the economy, talked a lot about election stuff. He talked a lot about various social issues. About 2/3 of the way through the speech, he said, we're going to go to Mars. It's time. The United States needs to once again look towards the stars. He quoted jfk. We go to the moon not because it is easy, but because it is hard. The president now, Donald Trump, when he did his reelection speech, announced, I've got a vision for the future. We could go to Mars. First country going to Mars. Imagine Marco Rubio bathing on the sandy shores of Mars. And I thought, huh, an American leader casting a vision that isn't just Bernie Sanders going, we're going to tax the rich and pay for health care. We're going to no more the ottoman flavors. That's what we're going to do. Instead of that we actually had. Here's where we're going to go. Jobs are going to come back. Here's how we're going to do it. Here's how we're going to move forward on foreign policy. Here's how we're going to accomplish these things. That inspires not just the youth, but it inspires the young in age and the young in spirit. As of all people, Gary Hart used to say, another story for another time. Right now, I think the Trump administration has that together they have stopped a lot of the youthful memory. I don't know if you've noticed on social media. And it's been effective. They have a lot of the, as I call it, the air pilot personalities that have come out to start doing a lot of the talking. It's been effective. All right, so let's do more of that. And that's why I'm encouraged. Yeah, that's the long and short of it. So those things said, I'll just make sure there are no super pressing, extremely urgent mail time questions before we hop off. Tony, you're an interesting cat, says Trey. I like the cut of your jib. Thank you. I can't hear. I like the cut of your jib without thinking of the Simpsons and promote that man. So those things all said, I really appreciate each and every one of you. Absolutely. For tuning into the Tony Kinnit cast, tech issues or not. As we continue to change things and move things around and figure all of this out, we're really glad that you've chosen to give us a bit of your time. I'm going to ask a bit of a weird favor this evening. If you go over to Apple Podcasts and search the Tony Kennett cast, you'll find the audio version of our show. If you like the show, would you consider giving us a five star rating? It's helpful. Yeah, that's it. That's the one little weird request that I have this evening if one of the fine producers, whether it be producer Daniel or producer Jen, might throw in the link to the Tony Kennett cast over on Apple podcast, just to, you know, if you're feeling super generous again, we don't want your money, but if you consider leaving a rating, something like that, we'd appreciate it. Yeah. Kind of the whole thing. So that said, I hope you have a wonderful Thursday evening. I hope you get a lot of rest. I hope your Internet and the services that you use stay up. And also hope that you don't give any of your money to Netflix. But that's a topic for tomorrow's episode. It's the Tony Kennedcast here on the Daily Signal, nationally syndicated and first on 93 WIBC. Take care.