Ep. 538 - Trump Threatens Iran’s Hormuz Tolls, “Amnesty” Bill Uproar, Dems Attack Trans Survivors

Summary

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The Tony Kinnett Cast — Ep. 538 Summary

Date: April 10, 2026
Host: Tony Kinnett (The Daily Signal)
Episode Theme:
A breakneck, acerbic roundup of national and international news, Tony Kinnett unpacks major developments: Trump’s confrontation over Iran’s Hormuz tolls, uproar over the Dignity Act “amnesty” bill, NATO allies’ alleged shortcomings, and harsh criticism of Democratic stances on issues from transgender medical policy to urban LGBTQ legislation. The episode blends analysis, interviews, congressional sound bites, and direct mockery of political rhetoric, in Kinnett’s typical sardonic, Midwestern style.

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Episode Outline & Major Segments

1. Strait of Hormuz Crisis & Trump’s Stance on Iran ([00:04]–[13:42])

• Backdrop: A fraught “ceasefire” in the Middle East, with ongoing hostilities—“there’s a lot of fire going on for a ceasefire” ([00:04]).
• Trump’s Threat: President Trump warns Iran against imposing a $1/barrel oil toll on tankers in the Strait of Hormuz, suggesting violations of international law ([00:04]).
• Iranian Response: An ambiguous audio message from Mukhtaba Khomeini, as Iran signals plans to “take the management of the Strait of Hormuz to a new phase” ([00:04]).
• NATO’s Fractured Response:
  • Tension over U.S. burden-sharing and allies’ reluctance to provide logistical or airspace assistance, notably by France, UK, Spain, and Italy ([05:30]).
  • NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte tries to placate both sides, downplays U.S. threats to exit NATO, but Kinnett mocks the “lip service” ([07:08]).
  • Kinnett openly doubts allied claims of support:

    “The problem with that is the sources for the great things that have occurred is essentially just dude, trust me.” ([07:08])

  • Stresses ongoing frustration in U.S.-NATO relations.
• UK PM Keir Starmer:
  • Accused by Kinnett of trying to claim credit for the ceasefire:

    "'We've just reached this ceasefire.' Who is this 'we?' ... You couldn't even get the HMS Dragon spit out of port." ([13:43])

2. International Ceasefire Chaos & Middle East Analysis ([13:42]–[25:30])

• Complex Hostilities:
  • Despite “ceasefire,” Israel and Hezbollah continue fighting; Iran’s support for proxies exposed ([25:30]).
  • Other Middle Eastern states (Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE) remain on high alert, intercepting drone and missile strikes.
• UAE's Role:
  • The UAE suspected of conducting airstrikes on Iranian islands—Kinnett points out characteristic denial from UAE ([25:30]).
• Iran’s Strategy:
  • Analysis: Iran tries to destabilize regional oil infrastructure, driving world prices up as a “final throw” gambit during the ceasefire.

3. Domestic Political Firestorms: Podcasting Wars & Immigration ([25:30]–[41:00])

• Podcastistan:
  • Trump vents frustration at right-wing critics (Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, Alex Jones), accusing them of “low IQs” and being “nutjobs” ([29:35]).
  • Kinnett contextualizes Trump’s belligerent online style:

    “He just rakes them over the coals... brings in like Rosie O’Donnell. So, we’ve got other news to cover.” ([29:35])

• Border Security & British Nationals:
  • News of four British nationals with Middle Eastern names caught in Maine after illegally crossing from Canada—Kinnett highlights Canadian border weaknesses ([30:45]).
• Dignity Act (“Amnesty” Bill) Controversy:
  • The Dignity Act: Kinnett brands it a “large scale amnesty program,” sparking fierce debate ([30:45]).
  • Interview with Rep. Marlon Stutzman, who is dissatisfied with the bill’s implementation and co-sponsor Maria Salazar ([31:00]–[62:46]).

4. Partisan Outrage: Homeland Security, Military, and DEI ([31:12]–[34:50])

• Sanctuary City Clash:
  • Secretary of Homeland Security, Mark Wayne Mullen, questions the legality of sanctuary cities and suggests revoking customs clearance at major airports ([31:26]).
  • Outrage from Democrats (Scott Wiener, Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries).
• Military Merit vs. Diversity:
  • Hakeem Jeffries and Rev. Al Sharpton advocate for racial and gender diversity as top priorities, deriding those opposed as attacking the “high ground” ([33:40]).

5. Social & Cultural Flashpoints ([34:50]–[44:50])

• Class Warfare & Identity Politics:
  • Rep. Summer Lee’s campaign rhetoric:

    “Unless they are the upper class, then they are your enemy.” ([34:52])

  • Kinnett critiques the demonization of the wealthy while blue states complain about ‘millionaires fleeing.’
• LGBTQ+ Legislation:
  • Minneapolis debates legalizing adult bathhouses and sex venues; Kinnett and Councilwoman Aisha Chu Thai spar rhetorically ([37:26]).
    • Chu Thai:

      “I’m heartbroken because of the rhetoric that I hear about our LGBTQ community...” ([37:57])

    • Kinnett:

      “Gay people need to have orgies in bathhouses or... it’s illegal. It’s terrible. Can you imagine?” ([40:20])

  • Kinnett also references similar controversies in California.

6. Attacks on Trans Survivors & Detransitioners ([44:31]–[59:33])

• Testimony Clips:
  1. Layla Jane (Detransitioner):
     • Details surgical and medical trauma; accuses “privacy bill” of shielding “monsters who wrecked our bodies.”

     “The doctors who remove my breasts will never be held accountable...” ([44:36])

  2. Johnny Skinner (Detransitioner):
     • Shares severe lifelong effects from puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones; ridiculed by activists.

     “I’m a 23 year old gay man who’s never had an orgasm and may never experience one.” ([47:59])

• California Sanctuary Policy:
  • Critique of bill shielding clinics/doctors from legal action—Kinnett finds hypocrisy in “pro-science” legislators ignoring long-term data gaps.
• Interview with Soren Aldaco (IWF):
  • Discusses the growing pattern of dismissing detransitioners, efforts to build legal accountability, and the lack of rigorous long-term data ([52:09]).
  • Notable exchange:
    • Aldaco:

      “These things are... peer reviewed. They, they, it might just be the peers that we have on the jury and unfortunately not the ones we have in the labs.” ([58:32])

    • Kinnett:

      “That’s fire… the peers of our juries and not those in the labs.” ([59:33])

7. Republican “Amnesty” Feud: Dignity Act Breakdown ([59:33]–[85:22])

• Bill Mechanics & Political Tensions:
  • Dignity Act grants permanent residence (but not citizenship) to pre-Biden illegals; Kinnett says “definitionally amnesty.”
  • Rep. Maria Salazar’s defense:

    “We give them dignity. At some point in the future, another legislator will write another law to give them path to citizenship.” ([62:46])

  • Stutzman presses on logistics (“how do we process background checks on 7 million people?”)—no concrete answer ([76:32]).
  • Kinnett lampoons Salazar’s defense that American kids must simply “work two or three jobs” to compete for housing ([84:50]).
  • Political fallout: Even in Salazar’s Cuban-majority district, resistance is strong; heated Twitter spat with Rep. Brandon Gill, who calls it “mass amnesty” ([65:19]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On NATO’s excuses:

  “So now it is. Oh, well, you know, actually the reason that we weren’t able to rush… is because, well, it takes a lot of time. There’s coalitions and committees. There’s a Sunday potluck. …Mamma Mia was in theaters again. I mean, there’s a lot of things happening.”
  — Tony Kinnett ([09:32])

• On UK’s claims about the ceasefire:

  “‘We’ve just reached this ceasefire.’ Who is this ‘we?’ …You couldn’t even get the HMS Dragon spit out of port. …Turn around more time than an aggravated parent with a minivan full of toddlers.”
  — Tony Kinnett ([13:43])

• On attacking detransitioners:

  “‘This bill shields providers so they can keep chopping up bodies… There is no blanket for me. I live with the damage done to me at the hands of these providers every day.’”
  — Layla Jane ([44:36])
  “I’m a 23-year-old gay man who’s never had an orgasm and may never experience one.”
  — Johnny Skinner ([47:59])

• On Sanctuary Cities and Customs:

  “Some of these cities have international airports. If they’re a sanctuary city, should they really be processing customs into their city?... Maybe we need to have a really hard look at that.”
  — Sec. Mark Wayne Mullen ([31:26])

• On Maria Salazar’s Dignity Act:

  “We give them dignity. At some point in the future, another legislator will write another law to give them path to citizenship.”
  — Rep. Maria Salazar ([62:46])
  “That is insane. That is patently, unequivocally bonkers.”
  — Tony Kinnett ([85:05])

• On Left’s focus vs. Americans’ needs:

  “A growing concern for Americans is the brutal reality of those who are detransitioning… the response by Democrats… is to attack those… as liars.”
  — Tony Kinnett ([41:45])

• On congressional dysfunction:

  “Republicans… aren’t exactly doing a whole lot. The Senate still is not moving towards actually passing anything effectively… That is starting to run really dry for the Senate side of things.”
  — Tony Kinnett ([59:33])

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Final Thoughts & Analysis

Tony Kinnett’s episode delivers an unflinching, often scorched-earth review of policy and politics as the U.S. and its allies confront intensified crises—an unstable Middle East, NATO disarray, and unsatisfying solutions for border and immigration woes. Kinnett’s critique is bipartisan, targeting both the Democrats’ emphasis on identity politics and social experimentation, and Republicans’ willingness to pass what he sees as poorly thought out, politically toxic amnesty. Particular emotional resonance is placed on the stories of detransitioners, with Kinnett and guests decrying both the policies that led to medical damage and the dismissive or hostile response from progressive activists and legislators.

Essential Takeaway:
As global and national crises mount, Tony Kinnett frames the political classes—including both parties—as strikingly out of touch with the needs and sentiment of everyday citizens, while identity feuds and bureaucratic inertia dominate headlines and gridlock persists.

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Useful Timestamps

• [00:04] Trump’s Iran threat/Hormuz tolls
• [05:09] NATO/U.S. frustrations, Mark Rutte, Keir Starmer
• [13:43] UK claims on ceasefire; Starmer critique
• [25:30] Middle East hostilities, Iran’s proxy war, UAE strikes
• [30:45] Border security, Dignity Act intro
• [31:26] Mark Wayne Mullen on sanctuary cities & customs
• [33:40] Diversity vs. merit debates (Jeffries/Sharpton)
• [34:50] Summer Lee’s class rhetoric
• [37:26] Minneapolis bathhouse law, Councilwoman Chu Thai
• [44:36] Detransitioner Layla Jane testimony
• [47:59] Detransitioner Johnny Skinner testimony
• [52:09] Interview: Soren Aldaco, detransitioner justice
• [59:33] Dignity Act deep dive, Maria Salazar vs. Marlon Stutzman
• [62:46] Salazar defends “dignity” policy
• [76:32] Stutzman questions background checks
• [84:50] Kinnett ridicules Salazar’s ‘work two jobs’ housing answer

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For listeners and non-listeners alike, this recap covers all critical points, tone, and banter, distilling The Tony Kinnett Cast’s trademark blend of humor, skepticism, and Midwestern candor.

Transcript

[Tony Kennett]

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[Representative Marlon Stutzman]

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[Tony Kennett (Host)]

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[Representative Marlon Stutzman]

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[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Tony Kennett, host of the Tony Kennett cast. Let's get down to business. You're listening to the Tony Kennett cast on 93 WIBC on CYTV, here on the Daily Signal. Good evening and welcome to the Tony Kennett cast here on the Daily Signal, nationally syndicated, first on 93. We are entering day three of sort of, kind of, sort of ish, kind of a ceasefire. We're going from day two into day three. I should say. I'm, I'm a little confused, you might be a little confused as to what's going on with the Iranian cease fire, because there's a lot of fire going on for a ceasefire. So first and foremost, everybody's mad. That's just what you need to know right off the top of the bat. Everyone is upset about it. Trump is upset. Iran is upset. Israel's mad. Lebanon is mad. Hezbollah is mad. Republicans are mad. Democrats are mad. No one cares if libertarians are mad. The British are upset. As though Keir Starmer, NATO's upset. We're going to get into it. So, first of all, this afternoon, the president of the United States sent out a post saying there are reports that Iran is charging fees to tankers going through the Hormuz Strait. They better not be. And if they are, they better stop. Now, that's from President Trump. We reported yesterday that Iranians were making a plan to charge $1 per barrel of oil on the boat that was sailing through the Strait of Hormuz. And you could also pay in crypto. So, you know. Well, it turns out the president of the United States, the broader international community is not too thrilled about that, given that that, you know, violates international law. But that also brings an interesting question. Wait a minute, international law? I was told that that was something that was super important to the entire world. Well, not necessarily. Now, regarding the Strait of Hormuz and the president's posturing, the Pentagon has confirmed there are still additional US Troops that are moving to the region. It appears that not only is the ceasefire being used, as we'd reported on yesterday and the day prior, as an opportunity for the United States government to accomplish maybe a little bit more gun running from the Kurds through the rest of Iran, but also giving them a little bit of time to regroup, position new craft in slightly different places for additional maneuvers. Well, now we have finally heard on the other side of things. Yes, that's right. I know you've been waiting for it we have finally sort of kind of almost maybe heard from Mukhtaba Khomeini. So that's Al Khamenei Jr. This is the homosexual, maybe in a coma, has one leg, maybe no legs, whose father wrote passionately, do not let this man become supreme leader of Iran. And then Al Khamenei was given an appointment with the final judge. So Muhtaba Khamenei, reportedly, again, there's the voice that has now been aired on Iranian state TV has now been changed from the original voice. That was definitely Mukhtaba Khomeini. He's still believed to be in a coma in the city of Qom, but he apparently showed up sort of on audio to say, quote, we will definitely take the management of the Strait of Hormuz to a new phase. So sounding a little bit like a corporate marketer strutting forward and making some huge announcements. Now, again, when I say everyone is really upset right now, this also means NATO. And the NATO frustration right now kind of goes both ways. So in the middle of the Russians announcing a little truce over Easter, the NATO countries are all in a bit of a, bit of a toss up because there are a lot of French and Polish activists and some parliamentary officials who are arguing that the United States need to be kicked out of NATO. And then of course, there are those here in the United States who have pointed out quite accurately that there really isn't a whole lot of reason for the United States to be in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization if all we're doing is fronting the money and the bodies and they're doing a whole lot of nothing. So that brings us to some of the frustration. Secretary General Mark Rutte came all the way over from that great tulip covered land in Europe to chat with the Trump administration. And you can see since he got to the United States, his tune is changing. And the reason that his tune is changing is that while President Trump can't withdraw the United States from NATO by his own hand, you need two thirds of the Senate to get a vote like that through. He can simply leave it bereft and empty like a mattress firm during business hours. And so you can hear in the first part of the conversation, at least with Jake Tapper over on cnn, Mark Ruta has got a little bit of a different tune saying, well, we've done everything that we could. And you can almost hear a little bit of annoyance in his voice.

[Secretary of Homeland Security Mark Wayne Mullen]

President Trump, he's not been hiding his frustrations with NATO countries.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

How was the meeting? Did he Say he's withdrawing.

[NATO or European Official]

Well, let me be absolutely clear. He is clearly disappointed with many NATO allies and I can see his point. But at the same time I was also able to point to the fact that the, a large majority of European nations has been helpful.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Excuse me, the large majority of European nations have been helpful. You do realize that not only has France, not only has the United Kingdom, not only has Spain, but Italy also rejected initially landing strips for the United States to use as a rebasing or an alternate trajectory out of a combat zone for aircraft. And you say, tony, why does that matter? Well, it matters because if you are in a position where there is, where you're, you're flying a sortie over a country and I'm relaying this from pilots who have said this, that if you have a report of a certain amount of anti air activity in a region and you then want to change the vector where you are going, it matters based on fuel, based on distance to certain things, that you might take an alternate path out of the country or out of that operational airspace. And if it means that there's a better place to go or an alternative place to go that might not put you in the same amount of fire. And the great vaunted allies of the United States, whom so many claimed that are the most important thing in the world, couldn't even cough up airspace. It wasn't even until about a week ago that Keir Starmer begrudgingly allowed the United States to use Diego Garcia, a tiny island in the middle of bleeping nowhere in the Indian Ocean.

[NATO or European Official]

But anywho, with basing with logistics, with overflights, with making sure that they lived up to the commitments. And there is also widespread support for the fact that degrading the nuclear and the ballistic missile capacity from Iran was really crucial.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Okay, so it's a lot of lip service at first. It's like, well, we've actually done a whole lot of stuff. And the problem with that is the sources for the great things that have occurred is essentially just dude, trust me. And people get really tired of that after a while. It doesn't matter who they're getting it from, whether it's Republican voters, whether it's Democrat voters, whether it's Americans in general being given promises from Europe and then being given a heaping spoonful of nothing. People get tired of that after a while and they do start to either take things in their own hands or they start to go in their other direction. And now Rudy did take kind of a different direction following this interview. With Tapper. I do want to make sure that we get this aired.

[NATO or European Official]

The President myself, we like each other. We are good friends for many years now, and I'd rather have the conversation on the table instead of tiptoeing around it.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

So do you see where we started with the. Well, actually, we've done a whole lot of things and I know he's mad, but really to. Well, I mean, the president and I have been friends for a really long time and, and actually things are fine and no, it's good. We do need to have this conversation because it's not really about just telling him you're wrong. And actually things are wonderful. It's really about, you know, airing our grievances, maybe a little bit of laundry on the, you know, in front of everyone.

[NATO or European Official]

And I sensed his disappointment about the fact that he felt that too many allies were not with him.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

And I, I'm sorry, I have to mention very briefly here, I sensed his disappointment. Oh, did you? Oh, did you do. You said you sensed his disappointment. Which of the 415 Truth Social posts from the President of the United States or Marco Rubio going out and going, well, maybe I think we just pull out of NATO, maybe reevaluate our relationship altogether. When did you start to realize there might be a bit of a snag, a bit of an issue here with the President of the United States? Was it when he said this was kind of a test for NATO and they flunked it? They flunked it like an algebra test at 2 in the afternoon. Was that, was that the moment you figured out something might have happened? Was that the European green low wattage light bulb clicking on, you think explained to him yesterday?

[NATO or European Official]

I said, hey, Mr. President, clearly the overwhelming majority of Europeans have done what the US Asked of him and what was previously agreed in these circumstances. And yes, sometimes it takes a bit of time, but hey, guess what? We have coalitions.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

So now it is. Oh, well, you know, actually the reason that we weren't able to rush to actually do the things that we called you to do in Ukraine is because, well, it takes a lot of time. There's coalitions and committees. There's a Sunday potluck. I mean, we had like a matinee. We had to go to, like, a lot, a lot of stuff was going on. Mamma Mia was in theaters again. I mean, there's a lot of things happening. Now he's taken yet another different approach. Now he's decided to make the case that the allies, the vaunted allies are Doing everything that they can. Now we're completely rewriting history. I love this one personally. Radio crew, we're going to send you guys over to commercial. Continue on the live stream. It's the Tony Knittcast here on the daily signal. Now, again, when you tune in live, we don't make you guys sit through all of the commercial stuff. We continue with a little extra show for your show. So now here's the last one. This one is from today and it's,

[NATO or European Official]

it's something, let's consider the most recent events when it came time to provide the logistical and other support.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Okay, so we've provided logistical support. Okay, interesting. I'm not quite sure the United States has ever relied on NATO to provide logistical support. Certainly not, you know, the logistical support of helping boats travel through the Strait of Hormuz. And even in the case where the French were able to get a Malton boat or two through the Strait, they did that by screwing over the uae. They didn't do this via the French sending a boat or two. The Charles de Gaulle wasn't sitting there at the Strait of Hormuz with French fighters on standby. No. Where is all this logistical support? What were you standing by and forwarding

[NATO or European Official]

mail the United States needed. In Iran, some allies were a bit slow, to say the least. In fairness, they were also a bit surprised. To maintain the element of surprise for the initial strikes, President Trump opted not to inform allies ahead of time.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

I'm sorry, this is bs this is complete crap. Oh, Trump surprised us. We, we had no idea that he was going to strike. Wrong. We, we had no, it was a big surprise to everybody, if you believe this. And there was this trend going on with kind of some of the isolationist front over on X who suggested that Trump just randomly up one day decided that, oh, we have to go fight right now because Israel called and said we're striking. So, oh, we got it. We got to do this. The United States was telegraphing that it was getting ready to do this for months. Months. Aircraft started moving to, to the Middle east in preparation of this in early December of 25. The strike was not until February 28th. Boys, girls and squirrels. They were surprised. Who was surprised? What are you talking about? And according to the, the five Eyes alliance here, no, they were not completely surprised. The United Kingdom, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are a part of the in total, complete intelligence sharing with the United States. It wasn't a surprise. That's a lie. I'm sorry, I'm just calling the balls and strikes here. He's not telling the truth,

[NATO or European Official]

and I understand that. But what I see when I look across Europe today is allies providing a massive amount of support, basing logistics and other measures to ensure the powerful US Military succeeds in denying Iran a nuclear weapon.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Okay, so he makes this claim at the end that, like, the allies are doing all this wonderful stuff. It's amazing. It's incredible. We did all of this support. Everybody's really behind Trump doing. And you get this a little bit also from Keir Starmer, who's. I mean, if you really are trying to create a really rough situation again between the United Kingdom and the United States, this is the way to go about it. So, first of all, Keir Starmer is now claiming that he had something to do with the ceasefire. So parachuting in and claiming that it is the United Kingdom who's always been here. We're all, you know, hey, we're, we're a part of this now, too. What is the purpose of your visit here in the Gulf? What kind of influence do you think you can have? Well, we've just reached this ceasefire.

[Secretary of Homeland Security Mark Wayne Mullen]

We.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

We've just reached this ceasefire. Who is this we? Who. Who is this we? What do you mean we've reached the ceasefire? Dude, where have you been? You couldn't even get the HMS Dragon spit out of port. It had to turn around more time than an aggravated parent with a minivan full of toddlers. What are you talking about? Is both welcome and I think there'll be a sense of real relief. There certainly is across the region and for the United Kingdom, but there's work to do and I'm here in Saudi Arabia. Ah, yes, yes, yes. Oh, excellent. Okay, so he's there in Saudi Arabia. Now this again provides some problems because where has Keir Starmer not visited yet? One of the points of defense for the United Kingdom. Now, yes, the United Kingdom and the Saudis do have a close defensive relationship, and we're going to get to some of that. But Keir Starmer goes from here to a very wild interview where he says some things that are definitely going to come back to bite him. We're going to cover that in a second. We have to bring the radio crew back from commercial. Do not go anywhere. Tons to get to tonight. It's the Tony Kennett cast here on the Daily Signal. You're listening to the Tony Kennett cast on 93 WIBC. Welcome back to the Tony Kennett Castle here. Starmer again started this entire situation in Iran, Operation Epic Fury. He started this whole situation by Complaining by arguing that the United States hadn't done anything and promising Iran. I promise we're not doing anything. Leave us alone, please, please don't hurt us. And they still, from the Iranian regime, threw missiles at British bases. They threw missiles at Cyprus. They threw missiles at the Saudi cooperation regions, as well as as the coupled British industries in Saudi Arabia. And still Keir Starmer did absolutely nothing. He then waltzes in and he claims that the ceasefire is all because of him. And now he is railing and raging about the President of the United States because after denying any kind of support to the US Regarding opening the Strait of Hormuz and escorting certain craft through the strait, because you guys may remember there is a thing called the British Commonwealth in which the United Kingdom promises to aid in the transport of certain materials and protecting international trade and waterways. It is one of the points of common agreement that Teddy Roosevelt struck with the Brits that has been a part of general international maritime law since the early 1900s. And that is that the United States is and the United Kingdom work together to keep international trade routes open. That is the whole freaking point of the US UK Maritime alliance. And they could not be bothered. They couldn't be bothered to actually come in and do anything regarding the Strait of Hormuz at all. And now Starmer has the gall to get out and say this about Trump and Putin. I'm fed up with the fact that families across the country see their bills go up and down on energy businesses, bills go up and down on energy because of the actions of Putin or Trump across the world, the economics. I think this is one of the wildest statements to make. Again, we are in a place and a time where you are really not allowed to say things in private in kind of a smaller interview, and then say something different in public. Because the magic of the Internet means I have both of the receipts right here and right now. And so for Starmer to go out there and first of all say that it's Russia's fault that oil is really expensive and that also it's Donald Trump's fault that energy prices are really expensive, I will remind you that it is the United Kingdom and its allies, the Commonwealth, that made the decision to cut back on energy production. Because in Canada, you had a bunch of angry lesbians screaming about, first people's rights and, oh, you can't put a pipeline to America. Oh, it's so terrible. And then the other places around the world, like in Australia, kowtowing to China or whether we're talking about India and The giant disaster it is regarding trade with the United Kingdom or whether we're talking about New Zealand and it's even more strained relationship with the United Kingdom. You did this to yourself, but more so, my dude, if you wanted lower energy prices, you do occasionally have to put up the idea that everyone else gets agency and gets to do whatever they want and the United States has to compensate for them. But whenever the United States does something thing, everyone all of the sudden becomes mom and dad or the children in the classroom suddenly deciding they get to vote on whether or not there's homework tonight. No, that's not a thing. And it is not going to help the United States and the United Kingdom's relationship at a time when I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be honest with you. NATO isn't really doing too hot. NATO is also trying to completely stop Israel and Hezbollah from fighting over in Lebanon. So Iran is also very, very mad about the ceasefire because Hezbollah hasn't stopped fighting Israel and Israel has not stopped fighting Hezbollah. Now this has been going on for a long time and you may remember that Iran has promised, pinky promised, double pinky promised. In fact, you know, said, hey, also my goat wife, she pinky promises whatever. They are not Hezbollah and Iran. They have nothing to do with them. We support them because, you know, they're Muslim revolutionaries. But Iran, we promise we are not Hezbollah. That was the promise of the regime. Now they are arguing that the ceasefire includes Hezbollah, essentially the Iranian Islamic regime, admitting that they are absolutely the proxy terror groups that did things like killing United States Marines and killing countless Americans over the last couple of decades. But now there are a whole series of mixed claims regarding Lebanon. Uh, some outlets are reporting that various parts of the cease fire agreement included Lebanon. Some didn't include it in the initials, some didn't include it until later. Uh, President Trump has again one set of documents. Mediators have said something different. The Defense Minister and the Prime Minister, those two offices in Pakistan have two completely different takes on it. And, and all of this chaos and nonsense ended with the Pakistani Defense Minister announcing that, well, the true solution here is that Israel needs to stop genociding Lebanon. Which is a wild thing to say given that the actual government of Lebanon would really, really, really like to have Hezbollah gone because they're currently terrified of being overrun the rest of the way by them. Then the Pakistani Prime Minister office cut in and said, actually my Defense Minister needs to shut his mouth. Which, you know, always good to have inter office fighting. That happens in quite a few administrations. Around the world, not just ours. And this brings us to the not ceasefire at all, because the other countries in the Middle east are very, very upset as well. Bahrain is continually trying to shoot down and intercept drone strikes on its Citra island area, including residential zones and energy facilities. Kuwait is also trying, through the Kuwait Petroleum Corporation, the Mina Al Hamadi refinery and oil sites in the southern region of Kuwait. They're trying to protect their power stations and their petroleum facilities. Qatar, the same thing. The United Arab Emirates, of course, we've already covered the Habshan gas complex, the Fajaira oil hub, oil processing facilities in Abu Dhabi, all of these various areas that Iran is trying to strike the uae. I'm going to say yet again, the UAE is suspected of just having carried out a major strike on Iran islands inside or in the Strait of Hormuz. On the Strait of Hormuz would be the better way to say that. Now, some have said, well, the UAE hasn't claimed responsibility for this. Correct. But I also can say that of the last six times that the United Arab Emirates was asked, hey, did you do this strike? They have said no. And in the last week, they have been asked about 15 times from major outlets, hey, did you do this strike on these two Iranian islands? And they have said nothing at all. So again, once again, I will point out the UAE is the only country in the Middle east that uses the Mirage 2009 jets. Those were clearly photographed in the operation striking an Iranian point. And this all goes to one key bit of analysis from this. From the Iranian side, they are trying desperately to hit all of the other oil points in the Middle East. A major Saudi Arabian east to west pipeline, one of those facilities, those pumping facilities to keep pushing stuff down. The pipeline was struck. The pipeline itself was not. Iran is trying to maximize the price of oil so that everyone else backs off. This is genuinely a final throw gambit. This is supposed to be a time during a ceasefire you would expect that Iran was, would be regrouping openly, hey, there's a ceasefire going on. Let's get everyone in the same place, let's do some refitting, let's clear away some cave entrances. And what satellite imagery has shown over the last couple of days is that Iran has way less capacity than some of the media was reporting to actually recover and kind of regroup during the ceasefire. And so it originally was thought to be IRGC commanders acting independently, as they had originally been ordered to during that initial kind of you're on your own order. Well, now it appears that there might still be the IRGC desperately trying to get the oil prices around the world so high that nothing else can be stomached and they'll be left alone. It may not function exactly like that over the next couple of weeks we'll have to see again still troops, others things flowing into the region. And that brings us over to the other side of this news story. So radio crew, we're going to send you guys over to the commercial continue here on the live stream. It's the Tony Knitcast here on the Daily Signal now at home. And this is a according to a good friend over on X McGillis, he said pretty accurately, I'd argue that the President of the United States, Donald Trump, has taken a break. He's taken a pause on bombing Iran and now Trump is instead dropping bombs on podcastistan. So it's not been any secret that Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, Alex Jones, et cetera, have been trying to suggest that the Trump administration is, oh, just a puppet for Israel and you know, the, the Jews exciting stuff and all of that nonsense over the last couple of months now, again, they've been wrong about everything endlessly, ad nauseam in a row. You may remember they just predicted super duper nuclear War seven. Too nuclear, too furious, didn't happen. But in the meantime, the president has really had enough with this. He's tired of it. Because not only are there certain intelligence agencies in the United States that are now investigating sources of foreign funding which are moving into kind of the major podcast network, don't you worry, boys and girls, I'm free. The only thing I'm funded by is caffeine and the good love of the great state of Indiana and also the St. Louis Cardinals sometimes. So the President of the United States gets out on Truth Social this afternoon and writes one of those posts that is going to spawn the outrage of a lot of influencers. And I'm going to share this with you because it's also a great opportunity to laugh at the President of the United States. Really getting kind of tired of the nonsense while he's busy. This is something that is a common thing with the President. He's focused. You remember during the initial Epstein files stuff, one of the things that got him annoyed with then Attorney General Pam Bondi, he didn't want to focus on that stuff. He had other things to do and accomplish. So we said, you take care of it, get it, release the things, do it. And then after it kept being brought up again and again and again, he got exhausted from it and he was annoyed with it. Now here we have a similar situation. Quote, I know why Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, Candace Owens and Alex Jones have been fighting me for years, especially by the fact they think it is wonderful for Iran, the number one state sponsor of terror, to have a nuclear weapon. Now, to be fair to the president here right up front, it is true several of these have advocated for, for the justification of Iran having a nuclear weapon. Tucker Carlson specifically because they have one thing in common, low IQs, which is just, it's very Trump. They're very stupid. Uh, he says they're stupid people. They know it, their families know it and everyone else knows it too. Now, you know, you may make the case, well, hey, the president shouldn't talk about their families. That's really mean and terrible. When you go after the president's wife and call her a prostitute and subsequently you also go after Charlie Kirk's widow, Erica, the mother of two small children. Yeah, I don't, I don't really think you get to make that claim anymore. But anyway, they're from the president and he says, look at their past, look at their record. They don't have what it takes and they never did. That's true. They've all been thrown off television, lost their shows and aren't even invited on tv. Well, except for Piers Morgan because nobody cares about them. They're nutjobs, troublemakers and will say anything necessary for some free and cheap publicity. Now, the free in quotes there is fun because as I've talked about before, I've talked to the people who built Candace Owens botting network and people have pointed out today that there are quite a few foreigner accounts that are suspected of being kind of mass scale botting accounts that are always the very first accounts to retweet. Major accounts like Nick Fuentes or Tucker Carlson, that kind of a thing. That's another topic for another time given the current investigations. He just rakes them over the coals. He even brings in like Rosie o'. Donnell. So we've got other news to cover. Won't spend a ton of time on this tonight. Got to bring the radio crew back from commercial. It's the Tony Kinnit cast here on the Daily Signal. This is the Tony Kinnit cast on 93 WYPC. We do have some additional updates on some more breaking news around the country. Border Patrol caught and arrested. This is according to Bill Mulligan, the congressional correspondent over at Fox News. Border Patrol caught and arrested four British nationals entering the US illegally in a remote part of Sonora, Chihuahua. No, no, no. In a remote part of Maine after crossing the border illegally from Canada. Now, I bet you can't guess their names again. They said British nationals. Who are these British nationals? Ali Mohammed Ali Abdullah Hamid. Mohammed Nahee Ibrahim Ayub Khan. And last but certainly not least, Mohammed Sultan Saleh. So for all of that conversation about how the Canadian border and the Canadian migration and immigration policies do not affect the United States, that is absolute crap. And given the large scale of those who have immigrated to the United States and have done so illegally, purposely evading Border Patrol enforcement, this brings us to a large amount of controversy that has erupted in the United States over a Republican written and a bipartisan co sponsored bill called the Dignidad act or the Dignity act, which is essentially a large scale amnesty program with some extra asterisks attached to. Now I got a chance to actually talk to one of the co sponsors of this bill, Representative Marlon Stutzman, at a Turning Point event he and I spoke at together. And it was an interesting conversation because essentially he's really, really, really annoyed with Maria Salazar. But we're gonna have to cover a little bit of that in a minute because given yet another case of foreign, I mean, I wouldn't exactly say proper English chaps that were arrested in Maine by Border Patrol, you might be wondering what the focus of Congress is. Are they doing things to make sure that the Department of Homeland Security is open and back open for business and that we see a lot of bills being passed right here, right now is at least the focus on calling certain aspects of our federal government to be working? No, no, no, no. In fact, what we're seeing right now in the country and kind of more in the general scope of things is an entire party who is losing it. That Mark Wayne Mullen, the new Secretary of Homeland Security, has this crazy, just like, you know, crazy bonkers idea of thinking that sanctuary cities are unconstitutional and, and should be illegal. Kind of a, kind of a bizarre, bizarre thing to, to suggest. So Secretary of Homeland Security Mark Wayne Mullen sat down for an interview and I think we have this lined up and ready to go where he had a chance to talk about again, this, this particular idea to keep your state

[Secretary of Homeland Security Mark Wayne Mullen]

as safe as my state.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

But Mr. Secretary, you know, the issue here is that you have states and cities that are sanctuary states and cities. And that's part of the issue. It's part of the problem. We saw it in Minnesota. How do you get around that?

[Secretary of Homeland Security Mark Wayne Mullen]

Well, I believe sanctuary cities is not lawful. I don't think they're able to do that. And so we're going to take a hard look at this. Just one area we may take a hard look at is some of these. Some of these cities have international airports. If they're a sanctuary city, should they really be processing customs into their city? Seriously, if they're a sanctuary city and they're receiving international flights and we're asking them to partner with us at the airport, but once they walk out of the airport, they're not going to enforce immigration policy. Maybe we need to have a really hard look at that because we need to focus on cities that want to work with us.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

So you're saying that big cities that are sanctuary cities that have a big, big airport, they might lose their customs?

[Secretary of Homeland Security Mark Wayne Mullen]

Well, I'm saying we're going to have to start prioritizing things at some point. Right now. Remember, the Democrats are wanting to defund custom Border Patrol.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Now, this really upset everyone from California. State Senator Scott Wiener. We're going to get to him in a little bit. And all the way through to a series of Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries. Outrage in the congressional leadership side. Now, as a side note, Democrats over in the House are trying to float the idea that if they retake the House, that instead of Hakeem Jeffries is leader of the House of Representatives, the speaker of the House, that they instead bring in Ro Khanna, which. That's really hilarious. That would. That would be incredible. Again, the guy who believes there should be a super duper huge wealth tax and also inviting one of the groomers who found girls for Epstein as his guest for the State of the Union, that Ro Khanna as the next speaker of the House. Exciting stuff. Hakeem Jeffries is also beyond outraged at Pete Hegseth. Why is he upset at Pete Hegseth? Because Pete Hegseth doesn't believe that our military should be based on things like your skin color, giving you an inherent amount of value, which should be based on merit and skill and lethality, instead of things like your, your gender, your genitals or the color of your skin, but a series of standards instead. Hakeem Jeffries is very, very upset about this. Bizarre. And when you attack diversity, equity and

[NATO or European Official]

inclusion, you attack the United States of America. We have the high ground on this issue, which is why I'm so thankful

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

that Reverend Sharpton and the National Action Network continues to lean in. Now, this particular network that he's talking about, Al Sharpton, kind of going on on the racial side of things. I'm sorry, this is just so strange. Al Sharpton has started advocating for black Americans not to celebrate the United States 250th birthday and instead join a separate black like Colin Kaepernick rally on July 4th. This is what the focus is on. Americans are arguing that there are real issues. They're aggravated about some energy prices. They're aggravated about some things like regulations. They're aggravated about some things being stagnant. They're aggravated about certain aspects of crime. They're aggravated about the Department of Homeland Security still not functioning the way that it should. And so what you would expect is an opposition party that's putting forward things that matter to Americans. No, absolutely not. Instead, what you have are people like Summer Lee going on insane, unhinged rants, suggesting that really what we need to do is like, kill the rich people.

[Tony Kennett]

And I see other people who are

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

fighting like hell to make you feel like your enemy is sitting next to you, that your enemy is somebody who worships differently than you are or looks differently than you are, comes from a different socioeconomic status than you. Unless they are. Unless they are a purple class, then that is your enemy. Okay, so in case you didn't quite catch the end of that incoherent babbling, she tried to kind of get into the vibe, into the mood, and kind of get worked up. Only the problem is when you fake getting warmed up, when you fake kind of getting hyped up, things start to slip through. Things start to slip through because normally when an individual gets kind of hyped up, it's kind of like opening, kind of throwing away kind of some of the inhibitions and letting whatever is exactly on your mind coming out. And so Summer Lee, again, in her big, huge midterm campaign, as she's going out, as she's campaigning, in this case Abdul for the Senate, is making the argument that, well, you know, they're trying to tell you that all these other people are your. Are your enemy because they worship differently. She says, then you are. Actually should be, then you do. And then she says, you know, maybe they're a different color than you are, they're a different sex than you are, they're a different socioeconomic status than you are. And then she says, unless they are the upper class, then they are your enemy. Bizarre. Bizarre indeed, given that Kathy Hochul and Gavin Newsom are currently running around crying into their beer that millionaires and billionaires are leaving the country in droves. So we've got the racial element, we've got the Marxist, eat the rich element, and finally we have the bizarre LGBTQ2I a whatever stuff now. You know, rest assured, it was already going to be insane. Goofy, crazy, cuckoo nonsense. Minneapolis is desperately trying to legalize adult bath houses and sex venues. Why? Why are they trying to do this? Well, the LGBTQ community says that they really need, like, open sex work services and then adult bath houses, like, massage parlor stuff, because that gives them dignity. Bizarre. Strange. Indeed. And when one of the councilwomen was confronted on this in Minneapolis about, again, the very. Just going right down the line, things that matter, things that don't matter, she loses, and I mean loses her mind over the idea that we may not want to just go all in on the crazy LGBTQ+2IA insane massage parlor, bathhouse, sex shop stuff.

[Minneapolis Councilwoman Aisha Chu Thai]

You know, media reporting on this ordinance as like a. Ooh, scary thing about to happen. Adult bath house is legalized in Minneapolis.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Yeah, because that's what it's legalizing. Yes. In fact, by the way, this is Minneapolis Councilwoman Aisha Chu Thai. She's a Democrat. I know. Not necessarily surprising, but we'll let her do her. Her little rant here. Actually, radio. We're gonna send you guys over to the commercial side and bring you back on the other side of things. It's the Tony Kinnit cast here on the Daily Signal.

[Minneapolis Councilwoman Aisha Chu Thai]

People are gonna go crazy. What I am. I'm heartbroken because of the rhetoric that I hear about our LGBTQ community are,

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

I'm sorry, guys, this is just you saying the quiet part out loud that, like, wow, you know, we're going to legalize adult bath houses and massage parlors. And then there are people that say, you know what? We really don't want this right now. We actually don't want to increase the amount of depravity that's in the city. Things are already kind of bad enough here in Mogadishu. Excuse me, Minneapolis. And so she immediately goes, you know what? If you attack. This is the same thing. We'll get to this with Scott Wiener in California. It's like if you attack those who are, as Scott Weiner would say, you know, if you want to have, like, sexual assaults and things listed on the registry that's really harmful to the LGBTQ community or here, you know. You know what? You don't want to legalize prostitution and bath houses. That's because you hate gay and trans people. Bizarre. Okay.

[Minneapolis Councilwoman Aisha Chu Thai]

Was incorporated in 1867. This is almost 160 year old city. There are plenty of of laws on our books that are racist, that are xenophobic. That are homophobic. And it's important that we meaningfully and thoughtfully undo those.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

How is having a law that bans massage parlors and adult bath houses, like, how is that homophobic? Explain this one to me, Batman.

[Minneapolis Councilwoman Aisha Chu Thai]

So that our stated policies and laws at the local level do not harm the very people that are under attack by our federal government right now. LGBTQ people are under attack by our federal government right now. We. We, you know, presented an honor resolution this morning recognizing Transgender Day of Visibility because the federal government and state government around the country are trying to legislate trans people out of existence. LGBTQ people are under attack by our federal government right now and sources.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Dude, trust me.

[Minneapolis Councilwoman Aisha Chu Thai]

At the local level, here in Minneapolis, where we are so proud to have been the first city in the country to recognize the rights of LGBTQ people. This.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Gay people need to have orgies in bathhouses or. It's illegal. It's terrible. Can you imagine? Can you imagine? How could we deprive them of their rights? Everyone knows that the first thing you do as soon as you come out of the closet is you're like, quick, where are 50 naked men in a bathhouse? Ah, yes. I. I forgot. Mm. Yeah. The natural rights of man. Jean Claude.

[Minneapolis Councilwoman Aisha Chu Thai]

Civil liberties of LGBTQ people. That history in this city. And we're turning around and.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Well, no, they would be turning around. I'm sorry.

[Minneapolis Councilwoman Aisha Chu Thai]

Wedding homophobic rhetoric.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Mm.

[Minneapolis Councilwoman Aisha Chu Thai]

From this dais.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Please don't ascribe motive.

[Minneapolis Councilwoman Aisha Chu Thai]

I'm not just ascribing motive, Mr. President. I am stating a fact.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Okay. Okay, sweetheart. That's real special. Are you. That's. That's wonderful. Okay. Um, no, then she advanced that committee, and it ended up passing in a 12 oh vote. Because, you know, of course it did. Canada, and I don't know if we have time to get to this here. They've update. They've updated and upgraded, like, the whole LGBTQ2IA super special term for things. And then I do want to get over to kind of the California stuff, because, again, what people focus on right now, it's bizarre, and it's really out of touch. We're going to cover it here. Don't go anywhere. Lots more news. It's the Tony Kinnit cast here on the Daily Signal. It's the Tony Kenneth cast on 93 wipcast.

[NATO or European Official]

Okay.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Right now, there are a lot of people who have genuine concerns about a number of issues that are directly impacting them. They are concerned about gas prices. They are concerned about energy prices in general. Because with things like The United States energy grid, which has not been allowed to grow because some weirdo goofball hippie told you that, you know, nuclear plants could like explode, man. Remember Three Mile island, man. And so instead of actually providing enough power for the country to grow and run, strangling that and then coupling that with the mass expansion of AI without dumping energy back into the grid, energy price is very expensive. So then we've got that. We also have a series of crime issues that Americans are concerned about in a lot of regions of the country. There are countless cases of fraud that we will get into regarding the illegal immigrants, regarding legal immigrants here in this country. We'll get to some of those things. And in the middle of this, what both parties are focusing on is why as we get closer to the midterms, we are likely to see a record low turnout for both parties. So we've talked about the kind of things that the left is, is losing all of their mind on right now. A growing concern for Americans is the brutal reality of those who are detransitioning after being told they were transgender and that they needed all of these hormones and that if the kid was short on estrogen, you pump them full of, of testosterone instead of, you know, giving them estrogen or counseling or therapy. All of these children who are now coming out with extremely graphic, brutal, terrible, horrible health problems that will last them their entire lives are going before state legislatures and are begging states not to allow other children to be experimented on. And the response by Democrats around the country, both at the social justice and advocacy level and the general official level, is to attack those who have undergone these transitions and then have detransitioned, attack them as liars, saying they're making up their symptoms and the things that they have gone through in this endocrine system experimentation. So first of all, in California, again, considering yet another bill trying to protect children's access to very, very dangerous hormonal and bizarre plastic surgery and mutilation practices. First of all, Layla Jane describing some of the things that she went through to California state legislators. Again, pretty crucial stuff. This is rising as an issue with Americans and kind of the long term effects of this policy that was promoted openly. Sorry, that'd be segment, segment four here, Club one.

[Tony Kennett]

We give them dignity.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Sorry about that. One more try, Layla.

[Layla Jane (Detransitioner)]

And I'm a detransitioner. The doctors who remove my breasts will never be held accountable. The doctors who made my friends clitoros grow so big to where they can't wear pants, walk scot free. This so Called privacy bill protects the monsters who wrecked our bodies, the healers who became butchers. It doesn't protect the thousands of detransitioners who can't even get their own medical records, the parents fighting custody battles across state lines trying to protect their kids from what happened to me. It blocks federal investigators from prosecuting clinics that committed Medicaid fraud by manipulating insurance billing codes. This bill, this bill shields providers so they can keep chopping up bodies. It wraps the doctors, the clinics, the gender industry in a legal blanket and says you are protected from accountability no matter who you harmed. There is no blanket for me. I live with the damage done to me at the hands of these providers every day.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

So if there is a doctor who knows, who knows that I have no problem at all with my leg, that my leg is perfectly functioning, it's fine, and then in the middle of surgery amputates my leg, then that doctor can be held liable. I can sue that doctor. But if there was a doctor who prescribes gender affirming care, in other words, hormonal medications, and I say this again as a former, as an anatomy and physiology teacher who walked through all of the academic documentation that was brought forward that was passed through peer review without any substantive or objective review of the causes long term of these medications, which we're going to get to here in a minute over. On the interview side of things that California is trying to become, in the same way that it has become a sanctuary for commercial driver's licenses for illegal immigrants and those who don't speak English, it is also trying to become a sanctuary state for doctors and those who have practiced this kind of atrocious barbarism on children and adults for that matter, to protect them from lawsuits. So when the children who have suffered from these particular policies, actions and procedures speak before the, in this case the California assembly, they are attacked.

[Layla Jane (Detransitioner)]

In response, the people responsible just cash their checks. I was 13, I was just a child when a surgeon removed my breasts. I'm still trying to understand who knew what, when and why no one stopped it, why the people who coerced my mom into consenting still have their medical licenses. If these treatments are as safe and as necessary as their defenders claim, they should be able to withstand scrutiny, shouldn't they?

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

That is correct. Now the, the big target of the day is Johnny Skinner, who not only deals with a number of horrible medical issues that we're going to talk to, but also again, straight at California State Senator Scott Weiner, who's also running for higher office. This is the individual who has advocated for keeping those who have committed sex crimes off of the sex offender registry because he says it is harmful to the LGBTQ2IA whatever community. He was really not a fan and some of his constituents were really not a fan of his being given testimony about the lifelong issues that come out of these types of hormonal. These types of hormonal experiments. So this is Joni Skinner's testimony in front of California State Senator Scott Wiener.

[Johnny Skinner (Detransitioner)]

When I was young, I was a feminine child and I discovered trans influencers online. They said, change your body and your life gets better. Don't and it gets worse. Or as my doctors told my mom, I would commit suicide. The medical and mental health providers didn't bother to ask why I felt the way I did. They poisoned my body with blockers and hormones, arresting my puberty and messing with my development. The result, I'm a 23 year old gay man who's never had an orgasm and may never experience one.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Now there are individuals on the left who have just started mocking the individual because he stated that he cannot experience the basic function of biology and that he probably never will. And, and he's, he's been ridiculed, mocked, scorned online for, for saying that one of the very basic things that is owed an individual through puberty cannot happen because he was stared. Because individual sterilized, completely wiped clean.

[Johnny Skinner (Detransitioner)]

That sink in. I was rendered an orgasmic. Because once you say you could be trans, that's it, full stop. No exploration as to why is allowed. Even if you are a struggling kid. The former president of WPATH, Dr. Marcy Bowers, a California surgeon who had performed the surgery for Jazz Jennings.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Sorry, WPATH World Professional association for Transgender Health, who has flip flopped really hard in the last couple of months because they are losing all of their original medical guarantors who are now coming out and saying, yeah, actually this is really, really bad.

[Johnny Skinner (Detransitioner)]

17 admitted on video that puberty blockers followed by cross sex hormones results in no orgasms and stunted genitals. SB934 guarantees that more people will end up like me, the walking but wounded.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

And that's the key. That's the point when a state passes legislature knowing that again, the things are changing, that the majority of the country is upset about it and they are growing more upset about it by the day. Yes, you can issue all of the scorn that you would like for Republicans having misplaced priorities in Congress. And yes, they are facing certain levels of comeuppance for those things we reported on them. But on the Democrat side of the aisle, when you decide to look at the public, give them the middle finger and say, we are going to create sanctuary areas where this policy will continue to prey on innocent people in the United States. Again, in California, whether it's commercials, driver's licenses, whether it's transgender health experimentation on children, you create a level of animosity that you deserve and will bring any kind of growth or development to that state, to its needs. But that is not enough as a recompense for these kind of actions. Radio crew, sorry we have to send you guys away for the evening. We're going to continue on the live stream, including a very, very important interview on this particular subject. It's the Tony Kinnid cast here on the Daily Signal. Now, this is probably one of kind of the best side of the interviews. I don't normally get a chance very much anymore to dive into kind of the academic side of things since I left the education sphere. But this is based on an op ed that we had a chance to read over at the Independent Women's Forum. You know that we've followed a lot of their work for a long time, and it is something that makes the blood boil and it is something to ignore at your peril and definitely to keep in mind. Now we go over to Soren Aldaco, consultant, researcher, ambassador for iw, and of course, we could go into a ton of details on the recent news on some of the transgender bills around the country. Several governors trying to slip weird things through or Supreme Court cases. But a new op ed that comes to, it'll make your blood boil. When we play some of these clips from the California assembly, the situation to watch individuals attacking D transitioners. Soren, I'm going to ask you to set us up for us because if I try to line it up, my. My face is going to get so red I'm going to match with the background.

[Soren Aldaco (Consultant, Researcher, IW Ambassador)]

No, I totally understand and thank you for having me. Yeah. A couple of weeks ago, Johnny Skinner, he's a D transitioner out of California, was put on cross sex hormones and puberty blockers at age he went and he testified about that experience on a bill that set to enshrine transgender medical interventions into into insurance coverage. And immediately thereafter, once his testimony went viral, trans activists were really dogging, dogpiling him. They were attacking him, saying that he was lying, that what he experienced never happened, that he looked too masculine to have ever been puberty blocked. But you know, just yesterday, actually, Johnny testified again on a lot of the complications he's experiencing, including something that's as graphic as sexual dysfunction. It's really unfortunate, but I had the opportunity to speak to Johnny firsthand. I've known him for about a year and a half now, and I can say for sure that that young man is not lying. And it's obvious for anyone with eyes to see.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Well, one of the quotes here that I will read, because it's infuriating, but it's necessary to understand what children who are put on these puberty blockers go through. Quote, nipple leakage, brain fog, chest pain, depression. I was urinating blood and had ulcers in my bladder and was too weak to attend school. Skinner recalled, Quote, when I told my doctor how sick I was, he looked at me and said, quote, welcome to womanhood, end quote. My God.

[Soren Aldaco (Consultant, Researcher, IW Ambassador)]

Yeah, I.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

When you. I know you do a lot of work where you. You investigate and you try to categorize, frame and record the experiences of those who have gone through these types of procedures and who detransition and try to put their lives and their health back together on the other side of these things. Can you maybe give us a little bit of an explanation, just briefly, on how common, how prevalent these things are? And even if it's not a surface, wow, you look more masculine or you look more feminine kind of a thing, what are some of the underlying, you know, not outside the close issues that these individuals deal with for the rest of their lives?

[Soren Aldaco (Consultant, Researcher, IW Ambassador)]

Yeah, that's a great question. And the unfortunate part is we don't actually have a lot of good data because the big research centers that are tracking transgender identification are not tracking detransition whatsoever, or at least in any meaningful way. And I know from my own experience as someone who transitioned and detransitioned and knows a lot of people who have had those. Those same experiences as me, it is way more common, even if it's something that people don't want to talk about. I know individuals who nipple grafts fell off after their, you know, gender affirming top surgeries, AKA double mastectomies and what Johnny experienced. When you're. You're put on puberty blockers as you are entering puberty and then kept on those throughout the duration of what would be puberty for a normal person, it makes perfect sense that you would have all these dysfunctional elements of your health, right? And not only would you have them, but they would be almost predictable. It's understandable that if you're interfering with something as essential as sexual development, that you're Going to have horrible consequences.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

And this is one of the things that again, you and I both having, you know, written our thesis and thrown that out for peer review in those kind of studies, you know, before the board or before the group of professors looking over the thesis, they were scoured. And one of the things I remember being asked is how provable my data was in the long term. Because at least supposedly in the academic community, long term data to make predictions, to make hypotheses are incredibly important. That's supposed to be a huge facet of the science. And yet when I am looking at the California assembly, which is supposed to be a group of legislators in a state that is very pro science and the data, after all, we, the American medical institutions, you know, all of the sudden, as you pointed out, this long term data doesn't exist. And the initial data that we have so far, that isn't completely subjective, just adjective lined emotional chart garbage is horrifying. I mean, for, for the youth and adults alike, I can't imagine playing with such dangerous tools and toys as our endocrine system and expecting that we're going to roll this complex set of dice and get the exact combination of numbers that we're looking for.

[Soren Aldaco (Consultant, Researcher, IW Ambassador)]

Yeah, yeah, that's a great point. And I think in a way people have that arrogance in order to try and play God, as we're seeing in cases like Johnny's. It's definitely something I think we're going to be seeing a lot more of in the coming weeks and months and years and to the point that it's no longer deniable.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

So when, let's say in the. In the meantime. All right. Because there is still quite a battle to fight between now, when we are seeing the outset of this horrifying data, and then when it becomes so indisputable that the rest of the country has to come to grips, no matter how maybe in the camp they are on these particular procedures. In the meantime, how do you think it is best? Affected, effectuated, maybe that we communicate the stories of those like Johnny, that we of course talk about the experience of those under these procedures. What are the legal steps that in your opinion we should be taking right now to either make things as best as they can while we are not yet at that point of universal rejection?

[Soren Aldaco (Consultant, Researcher, IW Ambassador)]

Yeah, no, that's a, that's a really great question. It's one I think about a lot. When it came to writing this piece on Johnny, I remember I felt so much rage that I was almost just moved to stop everything I was doing and get that opinion out. And, you know, when you feel that that spark of, of outrage or justice right at injustice, I think it's important to ride that. That's those little pieces that add up to that bigger change as far as the legal world is concerned. My own lawsuit against my gender practitioners went to the Texas Supreme Court in February of this year. And I think the more we see actual legal decisions made in this area, whether that's, you know, in some sort of situation Supreme Court setting where it has implications for other cases or even at the trial level, like with Fox Varian's $2 million outcome in New York State at the end of January, that's when I think it's really going to click for people that, you know, these things are, you know, peer reviewed. They, they, it might just be the peers that we have on the jury and unfortunately not the ones we have in the labs.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Oh, that last line. That's, that's fire the peers of our juries and not those in the labs. Dang. Oh, that's well put. If that's not in the article, that should be. That's some, that's some pros right there, homie. That's whenever you drive an academic to write an op ed. I've thought about this a lot. There was an old, an old kind of an idea that the quiet man driven to wrath, or in this case, those who spend their time pouring over the data, who are finally driven based on outrage of again, a dispute against the natural order and the harm that it's causing. Again, very important. Of course, we'll link this, this op ed down in the description. And I think that you're right on point regarding this lawsuit becoming, or these lawsuits becoming so numerous that they're very, very hard to ignore when a doctor goes to perform. Doctor goes to perform these kinds of procedures. I think that's, that's very well put.

[Soren Aldaco (Consultant, Researcher, IW Ambassador)]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Well, we will absolutely be following up with you. Thank you so much for giving us a couple of minutes of your time. Soren Aldaco over at iw, of course. We'll link this in the description. Thank you for giving us a couple minutes, for sure. All right, let's cover the other side of the news story this evening. And that is if Democrats are doing kind of the goofy stuff and focusing on nonsense, what about the Republicans? Are Republicans focusing on the things that would actually drive some support? Well, no. And that's something that a lot of the House of Representatives members are often given a lot of grief for. And don't get me wrong, that's true. They're not exactly doing a whole lot. The Senate still is not moving towards actually passing anything effectively. Essentially you just have Republicans going, well the filibuster. And that means that nothing at all is going to get through because Democrats really from the Senate and the House understand that if they can just stall Republicans and do nothing from now until the midterms, there's a pretty decent chance that the Democrats are able to walk away with a very easy House victory. So therefore, what should Republicans be doing? Well, over in the Senate they should consider being useful instead of doing Fox News and other media hitches going on and you know, 30 second soundbite and then that's it. Now that is starting to run really dry for the Senate side of things. We'll have to see it. The president can't effectuate all policy through just the executive branch. Now what are Republicans doing over in the House? Well, this would bring us to the really outrageous bill put forward by Representative Maria Salazar. So Representative Maria Salazar has put forward this dignity act. This is not the first time that she strutted this act forward. It is an amnesty bill. It would essentially say that everyone who has arrived in the United States before, kind of like the presidency of Joe Biden, everyone who showed up in the country, whether illegally or legally, you get to stay. And it's a really poorly written bill. Now I actually have had a chance to talk to one of the Republican co sponsors of this bill. There are a few, there are Democrat and Republican co sponsors, about 30 of them in total. One of the Republican co sponsors that I've talked to about this is Representative Marlon Stutzman. That's Indiana's third up in near Fort Wayne, Indiana. And we had a long conversation about this and it was interesting to get an inside take on this. I think we're gonna have him on the show pretty soon to talk this out. He's not happy with the bill that he's co sponsored. He basically wants everyone in the country, whether or not that we can kick them out right now or not to be registered. Essentially we wanna know exactly who is here and then make the distinction. I understand where he's coming from, even though I disagree. And I think that's something that needs to be said because with Maria Salazar it's completely the opposite. Maria Salazar has just decided to get out there and shove her foot into her mouth and say that, well, everyone who's illegal, I mean probably they're all really nice and wonderful people. We should give them permanent Residency and it's really not popular in the country. It's not, there is no polling that suggests this. But alas, Representative Marina Salazar coming out here's her big news explanation. She's very upset that people aren't enjoying this particular policy and she's complaining about it.

[Tony Kennett]

We give them dignity. At some point in the future, another legislator will write another law to give them path to citizenship.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Why would you. Wait, what, hang on. We give them dignity. What does give them dignity mean? Give them dignity means that, yes, even though you entered the country illegally, even though you evaded border patrol when you got here, or you got here and you claimed asylum in the manner that you are not supposed to get here and claim asylum, you didn't show up to a port of, you know, a port of entry, that kind of a thing. What's, what are you talking about pathway to citizenship stuff? What are you talking about? Again, that's, that's kind of the catch here. And again, don't, don't take my words when I'm talking about, you know, my conversation with Representative Stutzman and say, well, you know, previously he said different things. We'll get to that interview right now regarding the leader of this bill claiming that as far as dignity is concerned, we need to give everyone here a residency and tell them they can stay through the. If they got here before Joe Biden was president, what is that arbitrary standard? And then someone else is going to give them a path to citizenship. Interesting.

[Tony Kennett]

Right now what we need to do is to buy peace for these people, allow them to stay, to continue working because they are needed.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Now again, she was raked over the coals for this and for good reason, for very, very, very good reason. She was raked over the Kohl's for this because first of all, this is a very read the room situation. This is a very, very, very read the room situation. Now don't take that from me. I'm actually from one of the constituents whose congressperson co signed this. It's a read the room thing. So again, whether you're Stutzman or whether you're Salazar, no matter who you are, even in Salazar's own district, which is a majority Cuban district, there are more legal Cuban immigrants who aren't a fan of this. So it's a really just bizarre thing to get out there and suggest. But she was very, very upset because she says, no, it's not amnesty at all. It's not actually Western Lensman, who's a good friend of the channel, he provides us a lot of various Clips. He has showcased the difference between her stance in July of 2025 and well, now what. She's just come forward and said dignity

[Tony Kennett]

offers you the possibility of coming out of the shadows, but does not give you a path to citizenship. It's not amnesty. We give them dignity. At some point in the future, another legislator will write another law to give them path to citizenship.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

So, so what's the actual scheme here? What's the actual approach? So here's what the actual Dignidad act does. It essentially takes now, again, it's written and amended and kind of cross written. I have talked to a couple of legislators who have participated in the bill. They're very unhappy with each other. It's like the most unhappy marriage I think I've ever seen in a bill. The idea is that those who are here right now, who are here illegally, if they got here before Joe Biden became president, then they get to stay and become residents. Now, I'm gonna be careful about trying not to put words in Stutzman's mouth, for example, talking with him about this over on Tuesday. But he made the case that the people who are here would then get to stay here as permanent residents after they, they were able to prove why they were here and it should be a good thing. So they're able to stay here as permanent residents and they can't become citizens ever. He said maybe their kids can be, but they can't become. They would essentially become permanent residents who can't become citizens. Now, I'm not against the idea of a permanent distinction of citizens and residents because I think that the broad idea of who gets to be a citizen is way too broad and it causes problems. The fact that the person who hates this country and hates you gets as many votes as you do is a problem, and it will be an eternal thorn in the side of this republic. But I don't think this bill is anywhere near close to the way to do this. Those who violated the law to enter the country shouldn't get a pass. And essentially he made the. The. He suggested to me that the example is kind of like Moses in the Promised Land, like Moses got to lead the Israelites to the Promised Land, but Moses didn't get to enter the Promised Land. I would disagree here because again, in the Promised Land scenario, Moses didn't get to go in and the people who illegally immigrated into the country would get to be here. So that doesn't quite work for me. I get the general concept. I don't think that it's fine. The Idea of it's going to be a lot of work to fix this. So let's cop out is not what Americans want. And this is the part that I can't put a happy face on. I can't shine it up real nice for you. The gross domestic product at the end of the year. Sorry, my chair is sinking into the floor because this office chair is very much dead. The gross domestic product in Q4 of last year was revised down to like 0.5% growth total. And one of the reasons that the gross domestic product was lower is because of the government shutdown stuff. The other reason is because some of the economic policies you were promised that were going to be slam Dunkaroo grand slam a Rooneys sucked and they provided a lot of chaos that weren't useful. That's the truth. Sorry. And also not cutting certain kinds of spending and not cutting certain kinds of regulation and Congress not doing a tham dang that that's problem. That means there wasn't as much growth that there could be. Now you can make the case there are some future investments that could come in. Sure, I agree. But here's the problem when you tell people, well, we're just going to kind of cop out and do as best we can, which is kind of what I'm getting right now. Well, maybe we, you know, just like little, little no tax on tips thing here at the end so that hopefully the tax return stuff will, will, you know, kind of put a little oomph in the economy. I hope it does. But if it doesn't carry it all the way through, it's gonna come as is trying to sell you the consolation prize as the grand prize. That's not gonna work for the midterms. Again. This is totally and entirely just talking about how voters take things. Voters aren't going to like this either for Maria Salazar. Cop outs suck. Americans don't like cop outs. They don't. They don't enjoy it. They don't enjoy it on the left side of the aisle. They don't enjoy it on the right side of the aisle. Americans do not want to be given the the game show consolation. You showed up. Way to go participation trophy. And then gaslit into being told that actually it's amazing and wonderful. No, they don't care for that. And this amnesty thing, no, Americans did not vote for a cop out on, on amnesty. And Representative Brandon Gill, again, good friend of the show, pointed this out quite clearly. So he and Maria Salazar are going to do a big huge Twitter fight, you know, slip My wrists. Because that's where all of the fights take place these days, unless, you know, they're on podcasts. And he pointed out, he said, and I quote, this is on April 7, the Dignity act is mass amnesty. And that would constitute a terrible betrayal of our voters. Now also, it's important to note that the Dignity act would also staple green cards to diplomas and toss American college graduates into the dustbin. Because now you would be creating a system in which anyone in this country is now fighting on the global stage for every single position, from college positions all the way to workforce deployment, things like that. That's obviously a huge issue, but that's not even talked about in this rebuttal. I just wanted to point out another stinker because again, like a lot of bills, it's a hodgepodge of crap that's sold as the Dignity act, the Save All Puppies act, and it's filled with things like kill all kittens, because that's a bill in Congress. So Maria Salazar gets very, very mad at Brandon Gill for saying it's mass amnesty. And so she posts in all caps. Read the bill before you open your mouth. And this caught my attention because that's my line. My line is, hey, read before you open your mouth. Almost in those exact terms. So this caught my attention. I thought, all right, well, let's see what she has to say here. She says calling the Dignity act amnesty isn't just wrong, it's a deliberate distortion and it exposes just how little you know about the bill. She said, this is enforcement first. Zero tolerance for criminals, permanent border security and hard earned requirements to step forward and face the law so American workers are protected, not undercut. Now I have read the bill and she's a bold faced liar. She is full of crap. She's full of crap. I don't care what other committees she's on. And while she's Republican, so we should really work really hard to make it. No, she's a liar. She is a full of crap liar. I don't care for this. I don't like someone pissing down my back and telling me it is raining. I don't care for that. I don't care if the administration is Republican or is Democrat. That doesn't. No, that's not a thing. When you tell someone I know you have violated the law and instead of giving you the punishment, which is, do you buy the law? If you enter this country illegally and then you invade border enforcement, you overstay your visa and then you evade the American immigration System. Oh, I didn't know the language. I guess they get a pass. I'm sorry, that's not how it works. I did not know what the law was. I don't even speak English. No, not a thing. Not a thing. You are in the jurisdiction of the United States, meaning the laws you have to follow are here, whether you are a foreign national or a citizen of the United States. So what is the due punishment, the due process for that illegal immigration? You are kicked out of the country and you are banned from applying for immigration for 10 years. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not against the idea of reforming the immigration system to where we say if you voluntarily deport, you say, hey, I entered illegally, I claimed asylum or something in a manner that wasn't correct, that it wasn't true. And so therefore I am going to voluntarily leave the country. I am very much up for your 10 year wait being waived. And then you are sent to the back of the line because there are tens of thousands of people who are waiting in line right now to get into the country through our immigration process and are doing it the right way. You should not get too cut in line. By granting you, you get to stay here. That's amnesty. Amnesty is when you forgive part of the crimes in a blanket fashion. That's amnesty. I'm sorry, but citizenship is not like this magical guarantee. It is a privilege, it's not a right. And because citizenship is a privilege, her saying, well, they're not being granted citizenship right away, so therefore it's not amnesty. No, if my child messes up, if they break a classic example, the kid breaks the vase and now they are owed a spanking or grounding. And instead I say, okay, you're not going to get grounded. But also, no brownies for dinner tonight, young man. I'm not actually giving them a punishment. Foregoing a privilege does not equate a punishment being given. So yes, it is definitionally amnesty. Well, she says, well, amnesty is the chaos. You've defended millions in the shadows, no control, no accountability, and a system that stopped working a long time ago. And then she just gaslights everyone. No shortcuts, no giveaways, no blanket forgiveness. That's law and order. That's dignity. No, no, just because you say it doesn't automatically make it true again. Doesn't matter whether it's Trump, doesn't matter whether it's Maria Salazar, doesn't matter whether it's Ted Cruz or Lindsey Graham or Rand Paul or Tucker Carlson or Candace Owens or Ben Shapiro. Or Tony Kennett. If I tell you something and it is a bold faced lie, but I package it nicely, it's still a bold faced lie. I guess in that case it wouldn't be bold face because I'd be putting a face on it. But you get what I'm trying to tell you here, right? No matter who it is, and I would be lying to you. Now again, I've a great example here of why this frustrates me so much. My congressman, Jefferson Shreve of the Indiana Six Congressional, I had a lot of issues with when he was running for office because he ran for the mayor of Indianapolis and he had absolute bull crap crap policy. One of the reasons he had it is because he trusted a Chicago analytics firm who knows about as much about politics as Helen Keller did about multimedia. He trusted that firm, Hathaway Strategies in Chicago. Oops, sorry. Shouldn't have named him to give him a lot of his campaign talking about, well, people in Indianapolis really care about gun confiscation. And so Shreve took that advice and he said a bunch of dumb stuff and then he lost that election and then he ended up running for my congressional district. And I had some issues with him and I've talked to his team, I've talked to him since. And I believe it or not, I'll be the first to admit he surprised me by being not that bad of a congressman. Yeah, I'm gonna see him here in a couple of weeks. He didn't co sponsor this crap. Two Indiana Republicans co signed this absolute garbage disposal festival. Now again, I'm gonna let Marlin Stutzman have a say because he and I talked about it. Um, to be honest with you, Representative Haggard in Indiana is so old and I'm not even sure he knew what it was he was co sponsoring and signing on to. He knows about as much about immigration as Joe Biden knew about any kind of policy whatsoever. So aside from that, there's one last thing that I wanted to point out because we have had Dennis Michael lynch on the show before. He did get a chance to actually talk about some of this stuff with Maria Salazar in an interview. It's a bit of a longer one. I'm gonna play a couple parts of it here because I think it's worthwhile. And again, when these same questions are asked of Maria, the answers change in real time. I don't like that. I don't like that crap. The best I can say for is that she tries to at least answer the questions directly. Like there's One point where she doesn't know what's in her own bill, but at least she says that she doesn't know. Again, low bar to clear, but trying to be fair. Here you go.

[Representative Marlon Stutzman]

But I want to know how it is and who it is that is going to process these background checks on 7 million people.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Now, to be fair, this isn't necessarily something just right off the bat. Just to clarify, this is the one thing I wanted to clarify in here. This is not her fault, and this is actually a fault of the immigration system. The old immigration system. You say, well, how did we handle immigration before? The reason there were no immigration courts for a really bleeping long time to handle illegal immigration cases is because the federal government said, hey, you're not here legally, and then immediately sent you away. That was your due process. And now we've changed all the rules and the precedent and the immigration courts and the staffing of the import system haven't grown. Instead, the exceptions have grown. But this is a fair question. You're passing a bill that says, oh, everyone's going to magically get vetted. Who's doing the vetting? So anyway, I'm just setting that up real quick.

[Tony Kennett]

Homeland Security.

[Representative Marlon Stutzman]

Have you talked about how long this is going to take? How long does it take to process 17 million people when I've got, let's even just say 50,000 ICE agents specializing in nothing other than the Dignity Act?

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Sorry, I lied. There's one other thing to clarify because I saw the comment said, hey, wait, 17 million? More like 40 million people. I agree, but her bill says of the 40 million estimated illegal immigrants, again, a large number of those, like 23ish million got here since the Biden administration. So that's that. 17. That's that. That's the math that he's using there.

[Tony Kennett]

Look, I cannot tell you specifically how DHS is going to manage this, but we have. We give them 18 months to do

[Representative Marlon Stutzman]

it in 18 months. We cannot process 18 million people. That would be 33,000 people a day if we were working weekends and if every single person was getting a adequate check.

[Tony Kennett]

But you're concert.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

I hate corporate BS vocabulary. We're giving them 18 months. They must do this. We're just going to declare it so. No, Phil, that ain't how that works.

[Tony Kennett]

Trading on the administrative part and then.

[Representative Marlon Stutzman]

No, I'm concentrating on the backroom background check.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

I am. He is concentrating on the administrative part. He is. And. But that's important when you write a law that says, I declare we're going to police this. It kind of matters who's doing the policing. Duh. I. I don't care. You're concentrating on that. Well, yeah, I'm concentrating on the administration part of it. Because there's administration to it. He's not wrong for asking about the administration of it. If I tell my wife that we're bringing our family and several other families to Disney World, and then my wife looks at me and says, tony, my dear, sweet, handsome hunk of a husband, how are we going to transport the people there? And I go, you're focusing on the administration of it. That's

[Representative Marlon Stutzman]

not going to be cool with giving somebody dignity when I don't know who that person is and why they're in my country.

[Tony Kennett]

Oh, no, no, no. I agree with you, but that's why I say no more. More than five years. You need to prove that you've been here for more than five.

[Representative Marlon Stutzman]

I still need to know who you are, though, Congresswoman.

[Minneapolis Councilwoman Aisha Chu Thai]

Of course.

[Tony Kennett]

Of course that I need you to know that you're a Pepe Paris or Rosa.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Of course, I understand. Yes.

[Representative Marlon Stutzman]

And I just don't know how. I. I just don't.

[Tony Kennett]

You just don't know how.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

I mean.

[Representative Marlon Stutzman]

I mean, fairness.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

How? So the question he's asking, I need to know who these people are, says, well, I agree. We need to know who these people are. And so the point he's asking is, again, you guys realize that a lot of other countries do not keep detailed records on people like the United States does. Like, there's not a national crime database for every person out of Kenya. And that's not a thing. You know? You know that, right? That even Mexico doesn't have individual electronic, clarified detail dossiers on every one of their citizens and their crime records that are consolidated, collated, and organized in individualized locations like federal databases do.

[Representative Marlon Stutzman]

Oh, am I going to think about what 30,000 people is? 30,000 people is almost a full football stadium. So now if I'm going to give these illegal aliens 15 million, 17 million, you know, the ability to go get jobs that now they can compete legally against my kids. They're already competing illegally against them. But now they can complete that. They can compete on a legal end. Now they're going to be able to go get a house and get a mortgage. My kid's going to have an even harder time when he's competing against an extra 17 million people.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Now, this is a part that we're gonna kind of skip to here. And this is an excellent interview. Highly recommend it. Dennis. Michael, Lynch. And then of course, Representative Maria Salazar. The crazy part, this is what producer Josiah sent me was the last part is he comes back to this idea that like my kids are going to like illegal immigrants in this country, rent an outsized number of apartments. And one of the facets, not, not in totality, but one of the facets that makes housing more expensive in the country is that there are a lot of people here who are receiving special assistance and grants to get housing, whether it be in apartments, whether it be in rental homes or condos, or whether it be in very illegal mortgage practices that this bill would legalize, that there's less access to it and that American children and young adults don't have access to. Don't get me wrong, I understand there's a lot of kind of dyspepsia among the older generations who don't like it when I and a lot of other millennials and kind of the younger generation X and then of course generation Z behind us says housing in this country right now is an issue. This is one of the reasons why it is. And her answer to why he like about his kids not being able to afford apartments is one of the most tone deaf things I have ever heard in my entire life politically.

[Representative Marlon Stutzman]

Doesn't have any money saved. Jose doesn't have a job. He's lingering around for 30 days. He Doing all of the Joses who are now in my country draining my schools, my hospitals, my food, my housing.

[Tony Kennett]

What do we have to. Okay, they have to pay for their own health insurance. You know that the federal law, how

[Representative Marlon Stutzman]

they had a job, Maria.

[Tony Kennett]

Oh, well then, you know, it's, it's then if they don't have a job, then they would have to go back home or they would have to then do something. They will have to find a job, but not go.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Because that's what homeless and jobless people in the United States do, right? They leave and find work. Oh, yeah. I can't believe I didn't think of that. Oh, I combat it.

[Tony Kennett]

There will not be any chances.

[Representative Marlon Stutzman]

Are you telling me if he doesn't have a job, the only service that he's going to get is if he has an emergency at the emergency room. No other services. He ain't getting food, he ain't getting vouchers, he's getting nothing from where?

[Tony Kennett]

Food from where, who is going to give him to.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Obviously we know he's talking about ebt, talking about illegal immigrant benefits. This brings us to the apartment conversation. Hang on, guard.

[Representative Marlon Stutzman]

He's not getting anything. He's I'm asking you, does he.

[Tony Kennett]

Food stamps services, no federal programs available, no Medicare, no Medicaid, no Social Security or foot stamps.

[Representative Marlon Stutzman]

So I got, so I now I got. Jose, who was poor to begin with, doesn't have any money saved. Jose doesn't have a job. He's lingering around for 30 days and

[Tony Kennett]

now what you're saying is he doesn't have a job. Then we smoked him out.

[Representative Marlon Stutzman]

We smoked him out, he's out.

[Tony Kennett]

If he just, he has the dignity in him, he just needs to go find a job. He doesn't find a job, I'll find my.

[Representative Marlon Stutzman]

Then I don't know, then he has to go home. He gets no other. Perkins, your math doesn't work for the sense that if you're going to now tell them they have to pay their taxes, they are automatically going to be lifted to a new salary. And now what's going to wind up happening is they're going to find the same problem that my kids got. I got to pay taxes, Dad, I got to pay this, I got to pay that. I can't find an apartment. Apartments are $3,000 a month for two bedroom shithole. I can't do it.

[Tony Kennett]

Why do they have to put that. That's their responsibility, not mine.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

Did you catch that apartments are really expensive right now? One of the reasons, one of again, one of many reasons that apartments are expensive and that a lot of young people cannot afford them is because in a lot of these sanctuary city areas, illegal immigrants are given special subsidies to afford rent. Some of them are local subsidies, some of them are state subsidies. And so he's making the case my kids might have to work multiple jobs in order to afford just an apartment, a studio apartment to live in. Her response is that's their problem.

[Tony Kennett]

But wait a second, you can have two jobs or three jobs. I mean, it's like that's the average American person problem.

[Representative Marlon Stutzman]

I'm Maria. And what winds up happening now is you are legalizing these people.

[Tony Kennett (Host)]

That is insane. That's insane. That is patently, unequivocally bonkers. Because here's my take. First of all, I despise kind of the whole federal and the state benefit system. I don't think it's helpful. I think that Christians and Jews and other communities around the country need to lead the charity effort and help those around them who are struggling. I don't think that should be a state job where individuals are receiving a nameless check. I think there needs to be community involvement in that. I know I'm not breaking new ground telling you that. But it is bonkers to suggest that while there are shortages of some kinds of resources right now based on in part something that individuals are not entitled to that are still getting those resources anyway and saying that Americans forward and after are just going to have to cope and deal with it because she believes that it's not fair to someone who broke the law entering the country to tell them they need to leave and go to the back of the line. And you say but how would Mexico hang on to all of those people? Not my problem. Mexico let them strut on through the country instead of saying no at the border. That's not my fault. If another country is complicit in sending them here, they can take them back while they wait in line. Well, that might destabilize the country. Well, you know what? Maybe they destabilize the country if they were here. I don't care. Because if you're asking me to choose which this is that last part there. If you're asking me to choose again, I'm for reforming some aspects of the immigration system. I'm for changing some of the rules for those who self deport. Some of them. I am. Again, you self deport and there's nothing wrong with you and you get vetted, we waive the 10 year requirement, you go to the back of the line. I think that's fair. I do. That would be, that would be my, my offer. That would be my compromise. But if you suggest that everyone gets to stay here and Americans limited resources are going to be just as up for grabs as people who should have never been here in the first place and that American kids are going to have to suffer for it. That's your move. Americans aren't going to go for that. Now why do I bring this up again? Why all the way in a bonus Tonus, Why am I here at the end of here with this? There's one comment that I, that I heard that I think is, is, is pretty important. It's from a guy, forgive me, I'm not entirely sure of the name. I think JK something, I think there was a call in the name who said this doesn't matter, Trump isn't going to sign it. Right now the Republican Party is struggling with momentum and it is, it's fractured. When you have a big tent movement, you build a big tent movement. Don't be surprised when once you win, now all of a sudden you have a bunch of different groups inside the tent who want to pull different ways. I mean, you have people who are on the right arguing that socialism is inherently good and Christian. You also have people who are pushing this kind of amnesty garbage crap. What I'm saying is if we get through to the end of the year and the polls aren't looking good and there is a policy that Americans want through and that the Senate, in order to get some of those moderate Republicans on board, is going to want to tie, let's say the Save America act, shall we, to the Dignity act, what's the likelihood that passes through and that President Trump makes the compromise a lot higher than you think, because the man is pragmatic when it comes to making those kinds of deals. Now, is it a guarantee that he'd sign it? No. But is it a zero chance that he'd sign it? No. I will remind you that the big beautiful bill had a lot of good things in it. It also had some crap because that's Congress and voters who are not going to be satisfied with those kinds of compromises that have often come in many ways, shapes and forms are not going to be satisfied with this either. Now, the solution to this we already know, we already talked about, the solution to this is far more simple than you'd think, is that Americans actually have to care about Congress enough to get involved in primaries and vote in better congressmen. But already, as I'm saying that you're the comments going, it doesn't matter that the primaries are all rigged and the money's already in there and we can never replace our congressman. Okay. Well, then the Republic is lost. If nothing can convince average individuals to actually get involved and get other individuals elected, then it's done. There's, there's very little other way to say that. And so that, that's kind of why I do bring this up in kind of a weird day of news. And there are a couple of super chats that I want to address with we're saving a lot of these mail time questions for tomorrow. But very briefly, I try to get to the super chats, even though again, we don't ask you guys to give money to the show at all. So for today, a very, very kind, a very, very kind super chat from Kevin saying if not Great Britain gave away Diego Garcia for free, then they should also give the United States a bunch of other, you know, islands, Bermuda, the UK Virgin Islands and the Cayman Islands. You know, we need Denmark's, Greenland, too. I mean, again, I agree, but there's a kind of hardball that the State Department needs to play that requires Congress to back it up. And the administration just can't do anything that it wants by fiat. And the problem realistically is that the rest of the world is kind of starting to figure out the President does need the general movement of Congress to do things that are outside of 60 days. Kind of an issue. We'll have to see. Alicia Booker. Nice old joke. A good one. I like it. $10 super chat said, you know, I thought you wanted the. The Toyota, that being the Toyota Hilux, the greatest pickup truck of all time. But she said this is for the pony. I often say on the show that I wish for things, like I wish for a Congress that was useful. But the wish is so wildly out there. I say while I'm wishing for things, I love a pony. And that's actually a Calvin and Hobbes quote. Susie Durkins says that once when she's complaining about Calvin and not having friends. So she says that. Fun stuff. Another question or a very kind super chat from Dave. $10 said question. Do you think the Chinese are resupplying Iran during the ceasefire? Absolutely. Absolutely. And I say that in part because it is China who diplomatically, according to several of the wires, pressured Iran, or at least President Pizekian into the ceasefire. So there are some elements of that. Both sides are kind of trying to do a little bit of restock and refit at the moment. A little bit of the old industrial R and R. We'll have to see kind of how it plays out. China again is still struggling. They also suffered a major cyber attack, allegedly. But that's. We're putting the prediction market up again. You're about to see some schematics for Chinese missiles that they lied about. But anyway, that aside, very kind, mil spec meet $2 super chat says Somaliapolis Minidishu. That's what I call it. I think it should be Minnesmalia and then just Mogadishu. So you know, kind of like flip it around a little bit there. But I like it. And then from Deanne McIntosh, a $10 super chat saying you need a pearl clutching emoji. We do. We have one over in the Discord. We added it recently and we will add it to the live stream for the YouTube members. That's kind of something that YouTube members get access to is a custom emojis. We just haven't added it yet because this news cycle has genuinely kept us hopping on one foot, almost like we're Mukhtabah Khomeini. Only I have a wife. So that's setting aside really appreciate all of you guys stopping by this evening, there's way more to cover. I know that there were questions about the Melania statement today kind of out there. We're going to cover that tomorrow. I wanted more time than I had to read through all of the stuff before I talk to you about it again. I'm just now talking to you about the Dignity act stuff because I didn't get a chance to actually read through the Dignity act cover to cover in its current iteration until this morning. So I'm trying to do my due diligence as well before I report on some stuff. And you got to get all of the influencer crowd making their wild clickbait statements stuff out of the way. And so that's kind of the reason that we kind of framed that a little bit later. Hey, if you like the show, throw a like and subscribe. That really helps us a ton. And again, if you want to chill with us at other times, throw something in for the mail time where we'll get to the mailbag by the end of the week. A nice property mailbag. Tomorrow, head over to the Discord. There's a link to that in the description. This is the Tony Knittcast here on the Daily Signal, nationally syndicated, first on 93 WIBC. See you tomorrow, 7:00pm Eastern. Take care.