“Boom or Bust?”

Summary

The Tony Kornheiser Show

Episode: "Boom or Bust?"
Date: December 5, 2025

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Overview

In this episode of "The Tony Kornheiser Show," Tony, joined by regular contributors Michael Wilbon, Jeff Ma, Jason La Canfora, and James Carville, steers the conversation from local matters—like the first big D.C. blizzard of the year and the woeful Wizards—to a spirited discussion of NFL and college football, betting trends, and audience emails. With signature banter, poignant listener letters, and insightful sports breakdowns, the crew balances sharp sports analysis with the wit, nostalgia, and heartfelt exchanges the show is known for.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. D.C.'s First Blizzard and Weather Prognostications

• Snow in D.C. (02:20–03:11): The city is blanketed (“maybe up to 2 inches”), sparking a classic back-and-forth on forecasts. Michael Wilbon is skeptical about the accumulation, while Tony bets on the "over."

  “Maybe we get another half inch.” – Wilbon (02:59)
  “OK, I’m going higher. I’m going to take the over, like Carville always does.” – Tony (03:00)

2. The Washington Wizards' Embarrassing Loss

• Wizards Lose by 45 Points (03:11–04:27): The Wizards’ massive home loss to a depleted Celtics team leads to sharp criticism.

  “They are a fraud...80 to 42 in the second half. At home.” – Tony (03:55, 04:13)

3. Listener Correspondence & Community Connections

• Heartfelt Listener Letters (04:41–08:50):
  • Dr. Steve Landay’s campaign for a Kornheiser–Wilbon friendship book and love for the show.

    “After 25 years, I wish you and your extended family...a very happy, healthy, peaceful, and safe holiday season.” – Dr. Steve Landay (06:55)

  • Note from Martin Zadrovic, reflecting deep community bonds and history with the show and the D.C. area.
• A Community Touchstone (10:46–12:47): Calvert Woodley liquor store’s community role and gift of Beaujolais to Tony; discussion of local businesses, food, and the interconnectedness of D.C. life.

4. Mailbag and Show Legacy

• Show Impact: Listeners share traditions like gratitude notes, their Spotify Wrapped podcast rankings, and unique connections with show lore (e.g., “Christmas concerts,” favorite deli bagels, snow day rituals).
• Banter about local eats and traditions (13:11–14:43): Pretzels, “My Dad’s Chips,” and the anticipation of snow give a cozy holiday vibe.

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Featured Segments & Notable Moments

NFL & College Football Breakdown with Jason La Canfora (20:40–32:10)

Detroit Lions vs. Dallas Cowboys Analysis

• Lions Resilience; Cowboys Falter

  “We learned I’m a moron for trusting the Cowboys, which I rarely if ever do...” – Jason La Canfora (20:40)
  “The Lions have become an elite franchise under Dan Campbell...” – Jason (21:58)

Playoff Hopes & Team Outlooks

• Kansas City's Playoff Life

  “Yeah, if they lose to Houston at home, they’re in trouble. That’s the end.” – Jason (23:29)

• Ravens vs. Steelers; Lamar Jackson’s Health

  “I think he’s pretty beat up mentally and physically...” – Jason on Lamar (25:53)
  “I don’t see a team that’s going to flick a switch and be a playoff force.” – Jason (26:24)

• Mike Tomlin’s Future in Pittsburgh

  “Ben Roethlisberger…came out the other day and said, in essence, it’s time for Mike Tomlin to go…That was a complete wow to me.” – Tony (27:52) “This really feels like a circle closing...they could get a ransom trading Mike Tomlin.” – Jason (29:32)

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Football Picks: James Carville & Jeff Ma (34:58–43:24)

• Carville’s picks: Over in Kennesaw State vs. Jacksonville State, Georgia -2.5 vs. Alabama, Jets +3 vs. Miami, Vikings -1.5 vs. Washington (35:50–36:41)
• Jeff Ma, alone over 500 for the season; discusses sports prediction markets/successful bettor “Domer” (36:49–38:46)

  “Last year, he bet $400 million into Poly Markets, made $3 million.” – Jeff (38:46)

• Jeff’s picks: Indiana +4 vs. Ohio State, BYU +12.5 vs. Texas Tech, Georgia -2.5 vs. Alabama, Jets +3 vs. Miami, Ravens -5 vs. Pittsburgh (39:31–42:11)

  “I think Georgia is a team...that’s getting better and better...every week.” – Jeff (40:33)

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Lighter Moments, Music, and Traditions

• Dan Bern’s Song: “Tom Brady Cloned His Dog” (18:51–19:56, reprise at 57:47):
  Humorous musical ode to Tom Brady and pet cloning.

  “Tom Brady cloned his dog, and then he cloned his cat, and then he cloned his rat, and then he cloned himself…” – Dan Bern (19:14) “He’s just brilliant. Dan Bern. Just brilliant.” – Tony (19:56)

• Classic Jingles and Letter Closings (44:11–57:30):
  Tony and crew go through the mailbag: tales of snow, the December supermoon, Spotify Wrapped milestones, regional quirks, raccoon criminality, and the show’s multigenerational impact.

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Memorable Quotes & Banter

• “I have not even entertained the possibility that [Wilbon] would author this tome. He rejected the idea when I presented it...So this has been going back for a while. I turn 83 in December.” – Tony reading Dr. Steve Landay’s letter (05:31)
• “We are very happy to know him, very happy to know the people who pay attention to this show…” – Tony on the listener community (09:37)
• “When you say home field advantage, does it come from being in the stadium, the lack of travel, the fans being loud…or the officials being biased? No one’s really been able to figure it out.” – Jeff Ma (42:30)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• D.C. Snow Discussion / Wizards Loss – 02:20–04:27
• Listener Letters & Community Connections – 04:41–12:47
• NFL Talk with Jason La Canfora – 20:40–32:10
  • Lions–Cowboys, Chiefs' playoff hopes, Ravens-Steelers, Mike Tomlin speculation
• Football Picks segment (Carville & Ma) – 34:58–43:24
• Dan Bern’s “Tom Brady Cloned His Dog” – 18:51–19:56, 57:47
• Mailbag, Jingles, and Sign-off – 44:11–end

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Tone & Style

The episode is characteristically conversational, irreverent, and rich in camaraderie. Tony and Michael deploy dry wit and nostalgia; Jason is blunt and analytical, breaking down football minutiae; Jeff Ma is matter-of-fact and data-driven. Listener engagement brings warmth, humor, and genuine affection for the show’s long-running traditions.

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Summary for New Listeners

This installment perfectly encapsulates "The Tony Kornheiser Show’s" enduring appeal: seamless shifts from sports to everyday life, sharp analysis, and an infectious sense of community. Whether discussing snow in D.C., D.C. sports woes, the complicated psyche of the Steelers, or the tragicomedy of pro football bets, Tony and his crew demonstrate why the show remains required listening for sports fans and lovers of smart, funny conversation.

Transcript

[Tony Kornheiser]

Hey, it's Tony. On today's show, we will talk about the huge blizzard hitting D.C. right now. As I say this, we'll also talk to Jason Locanfora about what we learned from Detroit's win over the Cowboys. And we'll get football picks from James Carville and Jeff Maugham. But first, let's keep the sales weasels happy. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. You've heard me talk about collars and company, makers of the amazing dress collar polo. Well, now they've taken things to the next level with their brand new maverick performance blazer. And you have to check this out. These blazers are sharp, perfect for travel. Why? Because they're wrinkle resistant. Just throw it in your bag. When you get to your destination, slip it back on. No wrinkles, no stress. Finally, no more figuring out how to travel with a blazer. And it's not just about convenience. The Mavic performance blazer is made with stretch fabric so you can move comfortably all day long. Plus, it's packed with smart features, inside security zip pockets, a built in optional pocket square, and even a sunglasses loop. While you're at it, pair the blazer with The Collars & Co. Famous Dress Collar polos. They've already sold over a million of these comfortable polos with the signature dress collar on top. So Visit Collars and co.com use the promo code Tony for 20% off today. Use the code people. That should send me one of these. Yeah, I'd like to see this. A non wrinkle blazer. Yeah, because then I don't have to carry a steamer around with me all the time avoiding your unfinished home projects because you're not sure where to.

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[Tony Kornheiser]

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Previously on the Toni Kornheiser Show. If you have nothing to do, I would recommend that you read these stories. You know, she has a book called American.

[Michael Wilbon]

Kanto. And some of this is a response to another memoir that came out weeks ago to Cheryl.

[Jason La Canfora]

Hines. Cheryl.

[Jeff Maugham]

Hines. Oh, that's.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right. Yeah, it's just. You go, wow. Just wow. What's going on? That's. That's really it. You sit back and you go Wow. I didn't. I.

[James Carville]

Didn'T.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Wow.

There's no other word. It's just. It's just wow.

The Tony Kornheiser show is on now. It's snowing here.

[Michael Wilbon]

Not. You're going to cut to Marvin Gaywood's going.

[Tony Kornheiser]

On. It's snowing here right now. I got a note conversational early this morning from dg. And he goes, snow. And I go, yeah, right now. As I type, as I aspirational.

[Michael Wilbon]

For the elementary school.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Kids. I don't know if this is conversational.

[Michael Wilbon]

Snow. I mean, we're having a conversation about it. It's pretty to look at. It's not affecting the.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Roads. Maybe it'll be up to 2 inches, is what the Capitol weather gang was saying inside the.

[Michael Wilbon]

Beltway. So this is where every winter we have a disagreement. Love the Capital Weather game. I'm Capital weather gang. I'm looking at what's happening right now. It looks like it'll be done in the next two hours. And maybe we get another half.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Inch. Okay, I'm going higher. I'm going to take the over and take the over in the first half. You know, this team in the over like Carville always does.

[Michael Wilbon]

Okay. Always takes the.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Over. Yes, he does. Just in local sports, the wizards lost by 45 points last night at home. 45 points to a Celtic team that did not have Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum's out all.

[Jeff Maugham]

Year.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes. They're two best players. They lost by 45 in the second half. They were outscored 80 to 42. That's 38 point. They were. They lost 38 points in the second half. Why does anyone go to their games? What is the point? What is the point? That's not. It's not a competitive team. It's. It's.

[Michael Wilbon]

Awful. Do you remember when the PGA Tour came out with a new slogan, Live under.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Paris? Oh.

[Michael Wilbon]

No. This was years.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Ago. Before.

[Michael Wilbon]

Live. Before live under.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Par. Yeah. This is what they do, the Wizards, and they promote themselves on their television network and they use the Washington Monument, the place they tried to leave last year. All of this. They are a fraud. They're a fraud. And this guy, Michael winger, who wants eight years to make this better. Come on. 80 to 42 in the second half. At home. At home. It's just not, you know, they're.

[Jeff Maugham]

Not trying to a good, but by no means great Celtics.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Team. Absolutely. What else? I said some things I want to read. Do you remember some weeks back I wrote. I read a story or a letter by Steve Landay who was a doctor, that he wanted me to write a.

[Michael Wilbon]

Book. Or Michael, he sent you a letter. Or he sent me a letter back in 2020, right when you were opening my.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Mail. He heard this and I opened the mail. Yes, addressed to me in 2025. It was addressed to both of us and the letter was for you. During the Tony Kornheiser Show November 7, you told your audience that you'd recently found a letter on your desk written in 2020. I'm the little that sent that letter. Since the letter was unopened till recently, I assume Michael, to whom it was addressed, had not read it before I had written the letter in the sincere hope that I could convince Michael to write a book about your friendship with Mike Wilbon. Now that your son is a very involved, loving dad to a growing family, I know he would not have the time to write the definitive authorized book about your special friendship. Since Mike Wilbon has so many professional family and golfing commitments, I have not even entertained the possibility that he would author this tome. He rejected the idea when I presented it in my 2018 letter. So this has been going back for a while. I turned 83 in December. I had given up all hope of learning the full Kornheiser Wilbon story. Reality. Bit hard, but as of November 7th, I will resume my quest for the right investigative journalist to get this story in print. Matthew Wilbon quickly came to mind. However, I suspect he is inundated with homework assignments and or he's attempting to master golf in his spare time. Therefore, I won't consider asking him to write the book. Perhaps, however, his dad could point out that being the teenaged author of a best seller might make him a very attractive candidate to the admissions committee at Northwestern University. Finally, as a retired pediatrician, I believe I've come up with a near perfect solution. Bootsy the Hammer, their siblings, and Liz could create and illustrate a children's version once Matthew Wilbon sees how popular this is among the Littles, and he and his dad can come up with the adult version next summer when basketball season is over and they finish their 18 holes for the day. I still watch PTI every day, awed by you and Mike's wit, wisdom, and wayward words for the last several years. I've recommended the show to a former patient of mine. In less than a month, he will graduate from Florida A and M University as a scholar athlete with a bachelor's degree in journalism, he went to FAMU as a preferred walk on the football team. This season he won a scholarship and became a stalwart on defense. I thank you and Mike for the joy you've brought to my world. Double thank yous for neither of you charging me for being my therapist the last 25 years. I wish you and your extended family and Mike Wilbond and his extended family a very happy, healthy, peaceful and safe holiday season. Steve Landing Isn't that.

[Michael Wilbon]

Nice? It's a beautifully written letter, but this is hard to share across a microphone. There's something about the formatting and the actual just feel of that as a typed out letter that is just lovely. It's very simple but.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Nostalgic. I have another one here. It's a thank you note and it's from Martin Zadrovic, who is an assistant director of instruction, Northwest MCG Academy Lead golf instructor for Northwest Golf course, Orange Soda 2024 first tee coach of the Year Tony Michael Nigel, thank you for the joy. This platform spreads to so many people in so many places. The extent to which the show touches lives touches lives is barely believable. The reach is remarkable. Personally, I'm comforted by the connective tissue. Perhaps your show should copyright the Phra. For me, the connections are. Your conversation involving the Washington Post. You keep its great era alive. The Delaware beaches. They have a place in every summer of my life. The chatter days. My wife and I met there before it was chatter. Columbia Country Club. Countless stories there, from sledding there as a kid to playing, you know, to cattying. I even recall a high school midnight romp near the second tee. Not to talk about that, of course. Golf stories. Please don't stop playing. I even feel a blurry connection to Mr. Wilbon. He and I are the same age, with young sons apart who attended Washington Catholic League schools. I share an actual birthday with his pal Richard Dent. December 13, 1958. And while he attended the prestigious Northwestern School of Journalism, I was slumming down the road a few clicks at the Marquette J School where former White House secretary was a professor and dean. And that is some Wilbonesque name dropping. It goes on. It's very lovely. And there's more to this and I will get to it.

I just wish that Mr. Wilbon would stop telling us all to just shut up when we were watching. Every November, I try to write 30 notes of gratitude to people who make my life rich and fulfilling. This year the three of you completed the Thanksgiving list. This is.

[Michael Wilbon]

All. What a great.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Tradition. Very, very.

[Jeff Maugham]

Nice. Very lovely.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes. Martin Zadrovic is the son, I believe, or the grandson of Marty Zad. Marty Zad was Martin Zadrovic as well, but changed his name, Anglicized his name, made it easier on people to have, you know, to talk to him. And he was the sports editor of the Washington Post, Marty Zad. So I mean there is an, you know, a significant connection here. And from Steve the Sycophant, when you finished reading my last email, you said, steve the Sycophant has led the most interesting life. I must admire. Dear Toby, you have played golf with the President of the United States of America. You are the bassist with that elite band, Norwegian Soft Kitten. And most importantly, you're a close acquaintance of the magisterial Mr. Mike that Todlin Town Wilbonne. I in no way can match that. However, your praise is humbly accepted. Does he have some stuff for.

[Jeff Maugham]

Us? Oh yes, I think that pout on the.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Top. There are some Christmas concerts. Yes. So here they go. Free holiday concerts. Saturday, December 6th. That's this Saturday. The Herndon Regional Wind Ensemble performs at Herndon High school starting at 4:30 on Sunday, December 14th. It's a doubleheader. The Fairfax Wind Symphony performs at 1 at Bishop Ireton High School in Alexandria. Then the Main Street Community Band sounds off at Fairfax high school at 4pm Please come and hear your favorite Christmas and Hanukkah music. Ho ho, ho. Thank you. Steve the sickle fan. Isn't that nice? That's lovely, you know. Yeah, it's lovely. So we are very happy to know him, very happy to know the people who pay attention to this show, one of whom is our friend Michael Sands. Steve Sands, BROTHER Yes. For many years, Michael Sands ran Calvert Woodley and by doing so ran Le Cheeserie, which I say all the time. It's a cheese counter in a liquor store. It's not like its own place, but it's very, very good. The Sands family sold Calvert Woodley last year. Michael is still there helping to operate.

[Michael Wilbon]

It. It's a reminder. This isn't just checking people out at the end of their purchase. This was arranging trips to meet different vintners and maintaining those.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Relationships. A fabulous liquor store, a community liquor store, A liquor store with great.

[Jeff Maugham]

Loyalties and a family owned.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Business. Family owned business. Michael wrote me a note the other day and he said, I just wanted to give you a gift for all the times you've mentioned the store and all the good will you've created for us. So I got you a case of Chateau.

[Michael Wilbon]

Cambone. What.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Year? I don't. I haven't looked at it yet. But that's the that's the.

[Michael Wilbon]

Beaujolais. Did you question his gift like you did mine? Just make sure it's the right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Label. No, I haven't opened it yet, but I think it's. It's. It's unbelievably nice. That's very nice and kind. He introduced me to the new owner. I pledged my fealty to the store.

[Jeff Maugham]

Yep. And guaranteed.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Parking. Well, like, if you get there, as I do, five minutes before it.

[Michael Wilbon]

Opens, it's still a tough.

[Jason La Canfora]

Lot.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's. Yeah. Yes. You know, they have about.

[Michael Wilbon]

Eight. You want to make sure you back into those.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Spots. I didn't. And that made it tough backing out, you know, almost hitting a variety of cars. And one of the people who works there, John, is a little, you know, and he listens all the time. He said he'd been to Chatter. It was just a very joyful experience for me to go in there, for example, just. Just as an example. And it never even occurred to me Michael was working in the offices. I assume the offices are in the back. No, they're on the floor above. I didn't know there was a floor above. Wow. I didn't even know there was a.

[Michael Wilbon]

Floor. Do you ever notice how every wine store has that same.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Smell? No, I.

[Michael Wilbon]

Haven'T. Just sort like the. The packaging, the. You know, the. The.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Boxing. It's a nice smell. Yeah. It's not like. Yeah, it's not like they're spraying it around. It's very nice. It's a lovely liquor store with all sorts of wines and spirits and all of.

[Michael Wilbon]

That. Well, in the spirit of the season, I got. I got a. A box that arrived at the house. I was hoping to surprise you with.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It.

[Michael Wilbon]

What? The latest shipment of my dad's.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Chips. Really? Yes. Oh, that's.

[Michael Wilbon]

Tremendous. And I was emailing with. With Gary, the dad of my dad's chips, and.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Gary.

[Michael Wilbon]

Adele. Yeah. We have a new distributor, we have a new manufacturer, so we have a better chip for.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You.

[Michael Wilbon]

Really?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes.

[Michael Wilbon]

Wow. Upgrades coming. So look out for them in all your local.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Stores. I still haven't gotten my pretzels.

[Michael Wilbon]

Though. Yeah, we talked about trash can.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Pretzels. Yeah. I thought that I was going to get them two days ago, and.

[Michael Wilbon]

They forget the low salt. No.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Salt. I don't. Yes. I don't have.

[Jeff Maugham]

Any. Didn't you spe to Jerry.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Himself? Spoke to Jerry himself, which was thrilling for me when he said, I'm Jerry. Wow. You're Uncle Jerry. But I thought they were going to be here like the next day or having Weather, you know, I don't. I. I haven't gotten them. And I know they have the right address because I looked it.

[Jeff Maugham]

Up. Yeah, they'll be on the.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Chart. I guess they'll be here.

[Jeff Maugham]

Eventually.

[Michael Wilbon]

Yes. So do you get email updates as to upcoming deliveries, whether it's through, you know, the mail or UPS or any of the.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Shippings? No, no. You can. I can check, though. If I go to the original email, I can press on the tracking number, but it just said.

[Michael Wilbon]

Nothing. Out for.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Delivery. No, it's not out for delivery. That was. If it was out for delivery, it would be here. It would have been here yesterday. And now in the snow that, as we sit, it's really coming down. It could be six to eight inches. I know. Michael says it's conversation. It could be 6 to 8 inches by the time we're done with this.

[Jeff Maugham]

Show. That's the.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Boom. I mean, it's. Look at it. I.

[Jeff Maugham]

Know. It's coming.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Down. Yes. Okay. It is, Michael. Look at.

[Michael Wilbon]

It. I'm.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Watching.

[Jeff Maugham]

Okay. I will say this because I was out and about to get the bagels this morning in my tiny little automobile, praying that the. The city officials in both D.C. and Bethesda had treated the roads. And in fact, they.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Had. That's.

[Jeff Maugham]

Good. So it made going around very, very.

[Michael Wilbon]

Easy. I'm glad your roads were treated all.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right. So we will. We will get out of here now. And Jason Lockenfour will join us when we return. I'm Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser Show. You know, fast NFL game days move. One big play and everything changes. That's why live betting on FanDuel is a game changer. With FanDuel, you can bet in real time while the game unfolds. Score just flipped. Jump on a new spreader. Live money line. That wide receiver's heating up. Bet the next touchdown scorer or total yards. Think that drive stalls on the red zone. Take a live field goal prop or fade the total live player props team totals, drive results, updated spreads. Next play markets. It's all there. It's fast. It's fun. With FanDuel, your live bets move as quickly as the game does. So whether you're riding momentum or Fading the hype, FanDuel puts you right in the middle of every moment. Visit FanDuel.com TonyK to download the app and bet the NFL live all season.

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Tom Brady cloned his dog. His dog. Tom Brady cloned his dog. Tom Brady's lonely dog was no longer alone? You might think it's strange, you might think it random? But Tom Brady's dogs, they sniffed and lifted their legs in tandem?

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And now he plays QB for the Argonauts and Tiger Cats, Rough riders, Stampeders, Blue Bombers, and the Alouettes. Tom Brady cloned himself and Tom Brady cloned his pup. And Tom Brady is a lock to win the.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Grave. He's just brilliant. Dan Burn. Just brilliant. Tom Brady actually cloned his dog. Something like that. It worked. It's just so weird. This is from Dan Byrne, just to let you know that Volume 5 of Songs from Mr. Tony will be available on bandcamp starting this Friday. That's today, December 5th. 26 songs, including I believe I had this big dumper, dear Poop diet. That's the list. Slow down, Sparky and other how have I survived without these classics? Once again, for a very meaningful $13.72. Thanks again for all you do. We love Dan Burn. Yes, love Dan Byrne. And he plays in Jason Locke and Fora. And we asked Jason Locan for, as we do every single week, what if Anything did we learn from last night's.

[Jason La Canfora]

Game? We learned I'm a moron for trusting the Cowboys, which I rarely if ever do, but got snookered on this one. Look, the lines aren't dead and the Cowboys are. I mean, it really is as simple as that. The Lions were giving me vibes that I hadn't seen in a while and they were, you know, putting up numbers, having numbers put up against them, failing to do some things they always do, which is covered at least two straight games and they, they, the injury report, everything looked like it was trending in a way in which that was going to line up to be a shootout game and maybe Dallas scores one more point than them. I certainly thought that would be the case.

And it obviously wasn't. I'm on Ross St. Brown played in that game, which didn't look like it was going to be possible. Yes, the Lions pass rush look better than it has in forever. You know, Dak throws two picks in the big spot like Jared Goff, who had been really shaky lately. Looked like he missed his old coordinator slash play caller. Certainly looked like he missed his old center. Played a really clean game.

Look, the Lions have become an elite franchise under Dan Campbell and they remain that. I still don't know about them going further in the playoffs this year and they have in years past. The injuries to the offensive line had been looming really large and they may loom large again, especially when they have to go on the road.

But this is a guy whose teams don't lose back to back games. No, they don't look like a spot where again, they might not have quite as many points in them as Dallas had on that day, but Dallas, you know, they settle for the long field goals. You know, that's great that he can make all those, but when you also have that sort of a tuned up offense and you've got a wounded opponent, you know, shoddy who, my God, did he get, did he get shot out after Shout out on that broadcast? Made every other, every other word out of herbs. His mouth was shoddy. I don't think shoddy played that game enough to win and I think that had something to do with why he was trailing so.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Much. Do you, you feel Dallas is out of the playoffs now, don't.

[Jason La Canfora]

You?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Okay. Do you, do you also feel that if Kansas City loses, are they out or are they out.

[Jason La Canfora]

Already? They're not out already for me.

Yeah. If they lose this game. Look, the one thing they have been doing is dominating at home. I mean, five and one at home, one and five on the road. They score way more points. You know, score a touchdown more per game at home. Red zone offense is much more functional at home.

Mahomes is still pretty damn good at home. He has not been good on the road. So yeah, if they lose to Houston at home, they're, they're in trouble. That's, that's the end. I think it's a real low scoring game. I think it's probably a fairly ugly game. The Chiefs had been adept at winning those for a while, but we know what's going on with them. It was in one score games lately. So that's a fascinating game for me. I can't kill the Chiefs off just yet. There's plus money you can get tone.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Chiefs. Yeah.

[Jason La Canfora]

Yeah. To still make the.

[James Carville]

Playoffs.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Let me, let me go back to the Detroit because Detroit has. Every time they lose, they come back and they win. Will, Will Bond had this right yesterday. All I had said to him was, look, I think Detroit's the better team, but I think that if I'm writing a column, the better column is Dallas wins. That would have been the better column because that would have been four in a row and against three good teams in a row. And they have, they score a lot of points. Even when they lose, they score a lot of points. But their defense had been much better the last three games against the run and it was not yesterday. Do you have, do you have an explanation for.

[Jason La Canfora]

That? I mean, I don't know. You know, look, Quentin Williams was not as impactful in this game as he had. And you could trace and I have traced, you know, the, the, the defense going from abject failure to slightly above league average in a lot of things to his arrival.

Yeah, I mean, look, I, I didn't hear the rookie pass rusher from BC as a rocku. I don't think his name was called. I don't think Cloudy's name was called. I don't think Fowler's name was called. And Quinn Williams was not impactful. They attacked him in the run game. Look, Gibbs is not your average.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Bear. He's.

[Jason La Canfora]

Great. He's a great runner, but that's a wounded offensive line and I think, I think the Cowboys lost that game because the coach was too willing to settle for threes on the road against a team that does average 30 points. Even though this hasn't been a great offensive line and even though we're not sure if I'm on Ross St. Brown is going to play and even though we know laporte is not going to play. That offense has at home has been rolling up 30 on everybody. It's hard to get to 30 with field goals. That combined with them not winning at the point of attack defensively was the difference in the.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Game. Let me get to a couple of other things. Let me start with Pittsburgh, Baltimore and ask you, because I know you pay attention to this. How damaged exactly is Lamar.

[Jason La Canfora]

Jackson? I think he's. He's pretty beat up mentally and physically. I think all the maladies that he's dealing with, the ones we know, and I'm sure there's some we don't know, have affected his belief, have affected his confidence, that's affected his footwork and his fundamentals. And he's never been a poster boy for, you know, Tom level fundamentals. I know he's a baseball.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Guy. Yeah, we know the analogy.

[Jason La Canfora]

Yeah.

But this looks really off to me and I think some of it is overcompensating. I think some of it, again, is he. You can't really trust his offensive line and there's not many people making plays for him this year and there's been some drops and when he's not quite right and the ball's not exactly where it needs to be, but it still hits you in the hands, you got to catch it. So, yeah, I think he's off on many levels now. That doesn't mean he doesn't have enough in him to be a really flawed Steelers team. Yeah, I think when you, when you watch now, which is three months of football, the Baltimore Ravens, the good, the bad and the ugly, there's been all the above. Rarely has it been good on offense, defensive, special teams. At the same time. I guess you could say that about most of the week. I don't see a team that's going to flick a switch and be a playoff force. I see a team that's going to continue to do what it has done, which is beat teams around as good as them and worse than them and not be able to beat the best quarterbacks in the league, especially when they have to go to their place in January. And I just don't think the defense has enough blue chip talent up front to do.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That.

[Jason La Canfora]

Okay. And so you've got Lamar not being able to put the cap on and be.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Superman.

[Jason La Canfora]

Yeah. And you've got a suspect defense and you've got the specter of them having to play a lot of road.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Playoff games, but you like them over Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh does not pass the eye.

[Jason La Canfora]

Test. But that's just a weird series. I mean, crazy things happen. The lesser team on paper wins those games. The dog wins quite a bit in those.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Games. Let me get, let me get to a Pittsburgh thing. I'm amazed by this. Maybe you are not. I am. Ben Roethlisberger, who played his entire career in Pittsburgh and who matters in Pittsburgh, came out the other day and said, in essence, it's time for Mike Tomlin to go. Now, he sugarcoated it by saying, wouldn't Mike Tomlin be great at Penn State? Even though if you go back in Mike Tomlin's clips, you see he has no desire at all to coach college football. None whatsoever. But Roethlisberger tried to give him a soft landing, but that was a complete wow to me. This is Ben Roethlisberger saying this. How about, what did you.

[Jason La Canfora]

Think? Well, Tony, I will tell you. The football and podcast, Ben's podcast we discovered about three years ago, maybe longer. It's a gold mine, Ben. Ben is a cottage industry and lack of self awareness and self aggrandizing and mythologizing. It is. We've had a lot of fun. So I don't want to disparage him too much because I don't want that to go away. Because, because we like playing clips from the football podcast on our radio show. No, I'm not surprised. He's not the only one. Look, James Harrison came out like, vehemently and was like those, all those coaches have to go. Ryan Clark is pretty much going up to that line, tiptoed up to that line, maybe crossed over. Yeah, this is unusual. They booed Renegade. Like this is, you know, there's, there's swaths of empty seats, Steelers games, home games in December while the team is very much in a playoff hunt. But none of this feels normal and it's not.

And it might be nearing it. And whether it's Penn State or you use Penn State as leverage or, or what have you, I think they could get a ransom trading Mike Tomlin. And if Mike Tomlin feels like it's time for me to get, you know, look, everybody got to this point. Andy Reid got to, to this point. Like nothing's forever in this league. If it is time, you know, that, that he would like to explore other options, I think there's ways to facilitate that. So, yeah, this is, this really feels like a circle closing in that game. Look, yeah, to me, one or two things are going to happen in that game. It's going to be the Steelers super bowl and they're going to, they're going to be like we're sick of getting, you know, everyone's questioning our effort. They think we don't care. Like they're calling out sort of our manhood. You can't stop the run. Same run play 30 straight times. You couldn't stop it. All that stuff. They are either going to play with an intensity and a ferocity the likes of which we haven't seen in a while, or they're going to get punked by the Ravens and it really is going to be the end. And they might go out real meekly and this collapse might be the one where they don't just finish a game under.500, they finish a couple of games under 500. And the fan base basically lets that mod pod shop know because that's kind of what that ownership group is. We're not supporting your product. And then I think you could see monumental changes there, the likes of which happen, I don't know, once every 25.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Years. Yeah, no, it's hard for me to argue with that. All right, plug one. A bet for.

[James Carville]

Us.

[Jason La Canfora]

Yeah. We did not have a great Thursday night out there because we're fully transparent. We thought of what we thought would happen happened. But, you know, Flournoy getting all the action that Pickens couldn't handle. Didn't see that coming, but thought it'd be a high scoring game. Did think Pickens would be a bigger part of it and thought the Cowboys could win. So not our best night. But look, we are fully transparent. We try to explain to you guys why we're betting and how we're betting like we are and create discussions that will lead you to make more profitable bets. We're in all. Basically any market you're making that's in, we are handicapping it and bringing some of that work to the show that we feel strongest about Me, it's Beltway Ben. It's noon pretty much every day, sometimes a little earlier, sometimes a little later. Just go to www.wannabetwithos.com. you get links to the Spotify, the Apple podcast, the Twitter, the YouTube, all that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Stuff. Okey dokey. Thank you, Jason. Talk to you next week. Thank you, Jason. Loconfura just knows. He just watches it. I would never have thought that, that the Cowboys made mistakes by going for field goals. I guess they didn't go on fourth. You know, Dan Campbell goes on.

[Jeff Maugham]

Fourth. Yes, he.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Does. He goes on fourth all the time. We'll take a break. We hope to have James Carville and Jeff Ma. I'm Tony Kornheiser.

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[James Carville]

Show.

Well, you wake up in the.

[Guest Musician / Performer]

Morning.

[Jason La Canfora]

Boy.

You hear the ding dong ring.

Then you look upon the table.

[James Carville]

Bar.

You see the same darn.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Thing.

You find no food upon the table bar.

There'S no fork up in.

[James Carville]

The.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Pan.

But you better not complain Boy.

You get in trouble with the man.

And the midnight special. This is James Carville's original playing music. We're going back to it because he was crushed the last few weeks, particularly last week. 06. Yeah, turn it around. 34, 40 and 2. Everybody's under 500 except Jeff Moss. Both humans and monkeys under 500 except Jeff Long. Carville has sent us because he's in London. We couldn't. The connection was terrible. So we're gonna tell you what his picks are. He's taking the over. I've told him never to do this. He's taking the over. You and him both over 59. I'm taking it in the snow. I'm already over over 59 and a half in the Conference USA game between Kennesaw State and Jacksonville State. I know nothing about either of these teams. Carville's taking the over. He's also taking the Georgia Bulldogs minus two and a half against Alabama in the SEC championship.

[Jeff Maugham]

Game. That's.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right. For reasons unknown to me, he's taking the New York jets plus three at Miami. I mean, I just. I know. I wouldn't do.

[Jeff Maugham]

That. Sorry, I gave that to you. They're hosting.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Miami. Oh, okay. It's. It's in New York. Yes. Okay. So he's hoping that it's so cold that Miami quits. Okay. Taking the jets plus three at home as a home dog and taking the Minnesota vikings. I think J.J. mcCarthy is getting back, but. Yes, but he hasn't been any good. But he's taking the Vikings over Washington. Vikings hosting Washington and giving one and a half. Yeah, he's taking.

[Jeff Maugham]

Them. I think Jaden Daniels is actually supposed to.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Play. I don't think he's going to.

[Jeff Maugham]

Play. You don't think he.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Will? I don't think he's going to play. In this week's picks with James Carville and Jeff Ma are brought to you by FanDuel Sportsbook. Make every moment more. And we have Jeff. Jeff is the only one over 500. Jeff was three and two last week. He is 40 and 26 and one. He's stretching it.

[Guest Musician / Performer]

Out.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. All right. We're making money if we're betting with Jeff Ma. He's stretching it out. What did you have on bet the process this week? What do you.

[James Carville]

Got?

We actually had the most successful prediction market better. So I don't know if you know about prediction. I don't try to tell you a little bit about this. There's one called Poly Markets. There's one called Policy. There's one called no Big. And essentially what these are, these are markets where you can bet on different events. You can bet on things like the election, you can bet on news events, whatnot. And, you know, they. They've been around for many years, but they're actually starting to get a lot of prominence now. And one of the reasons they are, it's because they've been getting into the sports prediction world, which might sound similar to betting to you. And what is happening is they're able to roll out in states that aren't legal from a sports betting perspective, but they can do these sports prediction markets. And some of these are actually regulated by the ftc. They're real futures exchanges. And so, you know, you should keep an eye on them because they're having a big impact. But the guy we have on this week is a guy by the name of Domer. Last year, he bet 400 million into poly markets, made $3 million. And it's incredible, incredibly interesting how he figures out how to get edges on betting world events like politics. They had him on 60 Minutes and he talked about how he won, you know, he bet $4,000 and won a quarter million dollars on J.D. vance to be Trump's pick for, you know, the vice president early on. And the reason he did this is he recognized that in 2016 that Trump had talked about how he really cares about marketing and kind of wanted a punchy, one syllable, you know, co ticket person. So he did tense and he recognized that Vance and Pence sounded very similar, and that's why he ended up picking Vance and that ended up making him, you know, quite a bit of money. So it's an interesting story. You know, Anderson Cooper interviewed him on 60 Minutes, and then we had him on about the.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Process. Did you say he bet $400 million last year? Did you say.

[James Carville]

That? I did. I did.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Well, how many of the rest of us can play in that league? $400.

[James Carville]

Million. That's not, that's not 400 million at once. Right, okay. But, you know, many, many, many bets over time. And you could bet you could play in that for.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Sure. No, I can't, actually. $400 million total. When you say it's many, many, many bets. It's in one year, though, it's just.

[James Carville]

Right. But you're turning that money over and over again. Like his overall bankroll is nowhere near 400 million to do.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That. Good Good. I can relate to him now. What do you got for us? You're hot. You're the only person who's hot. What do you.

[James Carville]

Got? Yeah, we're going to take a few college games. We're going to take Indiana plus the four over Ohio State. This is a game that, you know, if you look at the numbers, it's much closer to even. Specifically, if you look at the numbers from this year, we said Indiana might be the best team this year. So we're going to take the plus four. That. That line was up at five and a half at one point and it's down to.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Four.

[James Carville]

Okay. But we still like him at.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Four.

[James Carville]

Okay. What do you guys have on the BYU game is at 12 and a half.

[Jeff Maugham]

Now. Yeah. I've got BYU getting 12 and a half at Texas.

[Jason La Canfora]

Tech.

[James Carville]

Yes. So I'm going to take BYU plus the 12 and a half over Texas Tech. We've been on Texas Tech all year, but this is just a number that's gotten inflated over time. And obviously, you know, there's a lot of incentive for BYU to win this.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Game. Yeah, they're in.

[James Carville]

There. Less incentive for Texas.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Tech. So, yeah, they're not falling out. Texas Tech still going to be in the way. Is this a neutral site game or is it at Texas.

[James Carville]

Tech? I believe it's.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Neutral. Yeah. Because it's conference championship. 12 and a half is an enormous amount of points. That's enormous. Okay, what.

[James Carville]

Else? And then this is scary moments. I agree with Carville on a few things. I'm going to take Georgia minus the two and a half over Bama. The number here is correct. But I do, if you base it on, you know, this year's numbers. But I think Georgia is a team, as I mentioned, that's getting better and better every year. Sorry. Better and better every week. So I think they're going to outplay this number and I like them to win this.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Game. Alabama has already beaten them. Just for the record, just so we know. Okay. Okay. What.

[James Carville]

Else? I'm going to take the.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Jets. Oh.

[James Carville]

No. Three over.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Miami. Oh.

[James Carville]

No. Just think that the jets, since Taylor's been in there, are, you know, a relatively reasonable team. I think that defensively they, you know, are above average. And again, like, I like them at home, plus the three and I think weather. Yeah, we'll have a factor.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Here.

[James Carville]

Okay. Etc. So we're going to take them plus the.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Three. What else you.

[James Carville]

Got? I'm going to take the Ravens minus the five over Pittsburgh. Just really not. Not a believer in this Pittsburgh team, obviously the Ravens have not been, you know, there's these teams in the, in the AFC that just have not played up to expectations all year. Pittsburgh is one of them. The Ravens are one of them. You know, Buffalo is one of them to some degree. And so at this point within this game, you know, this is the put up or shut up game for the Ravens and just not a believer.

[Tony Kornheiser]

In Pittsburgh, it's the same. It's put up or shut up for Pittsburgh too. I mean, they're sort of tied, I think, at the top of a very bad division. A division at Cincinnati could actually still win. They could, you know. Right. They could win, which is incredible. Yes, it is. Anything else? Are you going to stay with.

[Jason La Canfora]

Five? That's.

[James Carville]

Five. Just.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Five. That's great.

[Jeff Maugham]

Okay. And just to clarify, the. The Texas Tech BYU game is at the Cowboy Stadium. So that's sort of a home game for Texas Tech.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right? I don't know. You know, maybe, maybe. But I mean, I don't know, maybe Steve Young will buy all the tickets and give them to his friends and it'll be a.

[James Carville]

Big. It brings up a really good point which we talk about all the time was where does home field advantage come from? And does home field advantage come from the familiarity of being in the stadium that you're always in? Does it come from the lack of travel? Does it come from the fans being loud? Does it come from the officials being biased by the fans being loud and in favor of you? So this is something that's been studied a lot and no one's really been able to figure it out. So when you say something like this, when you look at a game like this in Dallas, you probably assign a small home field advantage. Texas Tech, maybe like half a point or something like that, but definitely not full home field.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Advantage. Yeah, I agree with that. 12 and a half is just enormous. BYU is a one loss team. I understand they lost the Texas Tech, but 12 and a half's a lot. Thank you, Jeff. We'll talk to you next.

[Jason La Canfora]

Week. Thanks.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Tony. Jeff Mobb, boys and girls, we will take a break. We will come back. Yes, we will come back with email and jingle after I read this that this week's picks with James Carville and Jeff Mobb been brought to you by FanDuel Sportsbook. Make every moment more Brooks Running reminds us that we're all powered by something. Whether it's the me time energy of a run after a day at the office, electrifying energy of your first marathon, or the infectious energy of a group. Run with your.

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This is just. Immerse yourself in the waterfall of this music.

Get wet, people. And then go outside with the 8 to 10 inches of snow that.

[Michael Wilbon]

I think has fallen.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Drifting.

I think we might get a foot. It's not light snow. This. This is not light.

[Jeff Maugham]

Snow. This is heavy coming down right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Now. Yes. This is 3 to 4 inches an hour snow. Maybe I'm.

[Michael Wilbon]

Exaggerating. You sound like wilbon going05 right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Now. I might be exaggerating a little, but this is significant, Significant snow right.

[Michael Wilbon]

Now. Your.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Fear.

Don'T like.

[Jeff Maugham]

Ice. Well, it's not the dusting that they said. Well, it might just be some sweepable snow. There's a little bit more than.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That. Yes.

But I'm. I feel good. Because of Jeremy Vint playing this music. Exactly. It's wonderful. It's just.

[Michael Wilbon]

Beautiful. Jesus. The last supermoon last night I.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Did, it was cold moon, there was a lot of cloud cover and you had to wait for.

[Michael Wilbon]

It. But it made it more beautiful when it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Emerged.

[Jeff Maugham]

Yes. Yeah, it was.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Gorgeous. Beautiful full moon. Beautiful full.

[Jeff Maugham]

Moon. Did the kids see.

[Michael Wilbon]

It? Oh.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. I'm glad for.

[Michael Wilbon]

That. Hold.

[Tony Kornheiser]

On. So glued to their Bethesda bagel, they had hot bagels.

[Jeff Maugham]

Today. They were hot when you put them in Bethesda.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Bagels. We love.

[Jeff Maugham]

Them. You'll as well just go to Bethesda Bagels.com for the location in the DC area nearest you. Then pop on in and you'll be.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Thrilled. And before we get to the mailbag, let me just say a whop baba loo up a lot. Bop boom. I got a gal named sue she knows just what to do I got a gal named sue she knows just what to do she rocked to the east she rocked to the west she the girl that I love best Tutti frutti. Oh, Rudy. That is Little Richard Penniman, whose birthday would be today if he was still with.

[Jeff Maugham]

Us. Yes. I was born on this date in.

[Tony Kornheiser]

1932. So he would be in his 90s. Yes. At this point, not with us, but great. Oh, Little Richard. It's a Little Richard. Yes. Thanks to our guests today. Jason Locan fora, James Carville, Jeff Ma. Thanks as well to today's sponsors. And remember, you can listen to us on Apple podcasts Spotify and Odyssey. If you get your through Apple, please leave us A Review from Chris Fitzpatrick Spring Book 1984 I was saddened by the news that the great musician and guitar player Steve Cropper passed. I first met Steve on the first tee at the LPGA Sara Lee Classic in Nashville. He was in our Pro Am group and it was so cool to hear some of his stories about his career for 18 holes. Going back to Nashville every year was always great to see him and his wife Angel. They even let a few players stay at their house the week of the tournament. A few years later we were playing a practice round at Glen Abbey in Ontario and as we were walking up to the green, I asked my player if we were in Canada. She said yes and I asked, what the heck is Steve Cropper doing here? It turned out he was in town filming Blues Brothers 2 and came over to the chorus to say hello, invite us to the set. Unfortunately, we couldn't make it. Steve was a very good golfer, but if you never saw him play, you would not know that he was a side saddle putter and very good at it. Not sure if you or Michael have ever tried that stroke. Rest in peace, Colonel. It's a great guitar player. Steve Croft. Oh yeah, one of the greatest guitar players of all time. Time, yes. Of all time. Do you know what that putting stroke.

[Michael Wilbon]

Is? Yeah, it's a great way to try and work on your.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Lines. Okay. See the ball differently from Ryan Grove in Falling Waters, West Virginia. Got my Spotify wrapped. Ask Michael, he'll explain.

[Michael Wilbon]

It. You know my Spotify age. It it looks at all the music you listen to. It's spot on for me. Was 39, early 2000s. Okay, back for the win to all a lot of Goo.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Dolls. To all those out there who said I would never amount to anything, I'm in the top 16% of people listening to Captain Tony eat it Society.

Okay, Ben in Cincinnati, please give this email to Michael as I'm sure you'll think I'm talking about AI when I mention Spotify Wrapped. I was informed today by Spotify Wrapped that I am a top 14% listener of a podcast about nothing. I am not sure what that says about my iq, but I'll take it as a compliment. Thanks for giving my brother, dad and I something to bore mom with. P.S. tell Luke and Steve to pound sand. What is Spotify.

[Michael Wilbon]

Rap? So Spotify Rapid will look at all the music podcasts, whatever you're listening to through your Spotify through the entire year and it'll break it into trends. So you might be the top x percent listener of a certain band or type of music. It'll break down your trends. So the big thing right now is all these parents are posting. They're sort of bragging about like look at my Spotify rap. My number one played song is you know what does the fox say? Because my kid took the phone. So for me, my number one song was how was it's done? From K Pop Demon Hunters. Cuz the captain likes to listen to that when he goes to bed. Except now he's listening to the Bongo cat version which is just synthesized cats going meow meow meow meow.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Meow. And you're in the top 1% of.

[Jason La Canfora]

That? I hope.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Not. Oh, okay. From Justin In Cleveland, my 2025 Spotify rap list was unveiled this week. Ask Michael ranking the Tony Cornheiser show as my number one podcast. With three weeks left to play, of course, that top spot of Sims. Then you and Nigel run the table.

From Rick Hussley. I've been listening to the show for about 20 years now. Started with PTI when I was in college, then the ESPN National show and then I found out how to get around the old podcast delay on the radio show here on the West Coast. I got up early and listened live on my Internet machine by getting to work at 6am in California. I just had my David Aldrich moment. After years of hoping it finally happened. Sort of. Apparently some domain Serene was. A pinot at Thanksgiving was poured at your Thanksgiving meal. I know that winery or the people who make that wine. Anyway, my buddy Michael Fay was the winemaker there. Now he's vice president of winemaking and viticulture, as we lovingly call. Michael was the officiant at my wedding and his longtime partner Sarah was my best man. I'll be up in Portland in January to celebrate Sarah's birthday and drink some free wine. I don't. I don't think he listens to the show, but if this makes the pod, I'll be shooting 100% with emails. Thanks for doing the pod, Tony. As the only Soliza fan out there, I hope he's on the show more. Isn't that.

[Michael Wilbon]

Nice? Yeah, it's the best safe pile.

[Tony Kornheiser]

For future asks from Jeff in Louisville. Dear Captain, please kick back and enjoy a story of Biggs helping Littles. I teach in an elementary school a few blocks from Churchill Downs.

85% of our students are deemed economically advantaged. I'm lucky to be a member along with the esteemed Pat 40 of Lakeside Swim Club at Swimming Hole I guess was built in the 1920s. This when you printed these, you printed them and I don't get the.

[Jeff Maugham]

Ends of sentences so it wasn't formatted.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Time and time and time again today. Fast forward a month later. Pat and I are randomly both about to hop in. I. I don't know what it says. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm really sorry on this. I'll print it up for another show. Yes. Yeah, but it's a lot the second or third one, Justin Winkleman calls himself Wink. I saw the full moon rise last night just a few minutes after sunset. Wow. Was it spectacular. The December full moon is called the Cold Moon, the Long Night Moon, and the Oak Moon. The first two are obvious. The last one has Celtic roots. This was the last full moon of 2025. It also happened to be a super moon. What does it mean to be a super moon? What does that.

[Jeff Maugham]

Mean? Extra.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Big? Yeah, I don't know. Jamie Collie San Rafael, California On Monday's show, Steve the sycophant opened his email by mentioning post Thanksgiving heartburn. I immediately thought that sounds much worse than post sex nachos.

Neil Ervay it appears that authorities may have apprehended a previously unknown third member of the crew that stole the expensive bottles of wine as that felon was committing another alcohol heist when authorities in Ashland, Virginia were this is the raccoon story where it altered do you know the raccoon story? Raccoon got drunk, Drunk and passed.

[Michael Wilbon]

Out.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Tough. Heading for the raccoon just passed.

[Jeff Maugham]

Out. It ends.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well. It's great. Yeah, it does. They discovered that the mass thief was a raccoon who'd broken into the store through the ceiling and commenced wreaking havoc among the store's inventory. The furry miscreant broke numerous bottles of alcohol. Not satisfied. Also consumed a variety of spirits, including rum, moonshine, peanut butter, whiskey, and clearly in the spirit of the holidays, eggnog. When the police arrived on the scene, they discovered the four legged felon passed out on the bathroom floor, much like many of his two legged compatriots have experienced. Photo attached for News Channel 8 viewers. Equally impressive as the Ringtail Bacchanalia. After an hour and a half, the raccoon apparently awoke without a hangover and not the worse for wear. He was released, no doubt to regale his frat mates with.

[Michael Wilbon]

Tales. That's the holiday.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Party. Isn't that great? His Exploits J. Wolf, Delaware, Ohio I took the liberty to fax an Ohio City and town pronunciation guide in case you get emails from other Ohio Littles. Lima is Lima.

Beast. Buceroos. Aglays. Ashtabula. I know. Ashton. Yes. Cuyahoga. I know. Gallipolis. Gallipolis. Okay. Ostrander and Wapakoneta. That should get you by Wow. I don't. I don't know many of those things. From Ricky Herb. Barnegat, N.J. barnegat Bridge and Bay. I almost jumped out of my seat when you read the note from Brandon Borzelli. The monkey got sent to Forked River. I know that place. I grew up in that town. It's the only place that gets mad when you don't say the name the way we pronounce it, even though it's spelled exactly how you say it. But it's Forkid river, not Forked. Forkid. And the like Orchid, I guess. And that refuge is great. It's called the Popcorn Zoo. We get a box of popcorn and feed the former wild animals. Great for kids. Fingers. Yeah. And the highlight used to be a three legged deer. So you can see exactly what my hometown is like. Like a haiku from Chad for the raccoon. Drunk as a skunk. Rhymes. But not as old courant. As drunk as a raccoon.

This is about. This is about driverless cars from Michael Garabedian at the NYU Grossman School of Medic Medicine, a professor of microbiology and urology. I used to be firmly in the no thanks, I'll drive myself camp when it came to autonomous cars. Then I took a couple of car rides in San Francisco a few months ago. Now I'm basically ready to outsource my entire transportation life to the robots. Even better. Jonathan Slotkin, a neurosurgeon, someone you want to pay attention to with safety data, wrote an op ed in the New York Times about Waymo's nearly 100 million driverless miles across four cities. The results? Waymo's car had 91% fewer serious injury or worse crashes, 80% fewer crashes causing any injury, and a 96% lower rate of injury causing crashes at intersections compared to humans. In other words, the machines are much better at not hitting things that we are. So given that Dr. Kornheiser is a doctor, he might want to take another look at his stance because even the neurosurgeons are siding with the robots now. As an aside, I was born and raised in Fresno, California, and back in the day, I got to watch Bobby Bonds yesterday at rehab with the Fresno Giants Triple A team. I am that old. I even was even coached in Little League by Darrell lamonica and Tom Seaver, both proud Central California natives. Wow. These days the Central Valley is still cranking out legends like Aaron Judge and Josh Allen and Lopez twins, too. But that's the NBA. It doesn't count. Must be something in the water. Andrew in LA we never celebrated Thanksgiving when I was a kid in Manhattan. When I was 10, we bought a weekend place in the country fairly near Kingston, New York, which I know. As Thanksgiving was approaching, my parents said that we would be going to town for a traditional turkey dinner at Judy's, a restaurant that can only be described as small town Americana. You know, wallpaper all waitresses, all with prematurely gray hair, a chef who was a cook, and no imagination. Will they have pumpkin pieces? I asked, never having eaten any. Upon finding that, of course they would, I began to obsess over that long, forbidden fruit pie. The day drew near. I could hardly contain myself. I raced through the turkey, stuffing, gravy, yams, the works, and awaited that pie. It was presented to me. I dug in and came up with what my grandmother would describe as a fair face. I told you that you might not like it, but I think you should finish it, said my mother. I did. Thankful that I never have to eat that again. Eleven presidents have come and gone, and my reaction to pumpkin pie remains the one concept and in an ever changing world. From Sean Nichols. Shan Nichols, maybe Shannimal he is referred to from Ponta Vitro. I finally got around to putting up the ceramic Christmas village in the Santas that my grandmother made over the years. Lo and behold, it includes a gazebo, a wishing well, a stone bridge, clock tower, and roasted chestnuts cart. Needless to say, I'm now in negotiations with the Wall Hallmark Channel to shoot a film starring Lacy Shabbert in our family room next week. No Luke Russard allowed, though, as we're a Miami Dolphins house. If he shows up, he's getting tossed in a tiny jail in the village with all the beef on weck he can handle. And he sends pictures of all of these things, which is very, very nice. John in Korea since that. Since Peter Jennings. Not that Peter Jennings is no longer here. I take it upon myself to report that it snowed in Korea today. Peter Jennings back in America, I guess he is. Ken Scudder, Takoma Park, Maryland Dear aging Boomer Tony, the greatest thing you've ever seen on TV was Barbra Streisand and Neil diamond singing you Don't Bring Me Flowers on the Grammys. How will you break the news to Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin.

Okay. Jim Cudahy, Locust Grove, Virginia. On December 8th, the sunset at Lubeck Main near Bar harbor will be 3:44pm on the other hand, the sunrise in Lubeck will be 4:43am on June 15. So the Lubeckians have that to look forward to, which is nice. John Mertz by the Cathedral. I've been betting against the money. The monkey. That's a lot of lobster. Yes, it is. John Erickson in San Diego. I think Nigel pointed out why Reginald has been struggling this season. He visited the basement, found only Reggie bars and Yoohoo. We know Reginald can't be at his best without the Johnnie Walker Blues. Should we start a GoFundMe to replenish his supply? If you're out of your bike, then everyone as always, do wear what.

[Jason La Canfora]

If I wish one of your guys had children? If I could kick them in the head or stomp on their pesticides so you can feel my pain because that's the pain I have waking up every.

[Guest Musician / Performer]

Day.

Tom Brady cloned his dog his dog Tom Brady cloned. Tom Brady's lonely dog was no longer alone? You might think it strange, you might think it random. But Tom Brady's dogs, they sniffed and lifted their legs in tandem?

Tom Brady cloned his dog and then he cloned his cat and then he cloned his rat and then he cloned himself. He cloned himself and suddenly you saw a bunch of Tom Brady's going up to Canada.

And now he plays QB for the Argonauts and Tiger Cats? Rough Riders, Stampeders blew Bombers and the Alouettes. Tom Brady cloned himself and Tom Brady Brady cloned his pup. And Tom Brady is a lot to win the Great Cup.