“Budweiser and Fresca”

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Budweiser and Fresca" | The Tony Kornheiser Show

Episode Information:

• Title: Budweiser and Fresca
• Host: Tony Kornheiser
• Production: This Show Stinks Productions, LLC
• Release Date: May 7, 2025

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Introduction

In the "Budweiser and Fresca" episode of The Tony Kornheiser Show, host Tony Kornheiser delves deep into the intricacies of the 2025 NBA and NHL playoffs. Joined by esteemed guests Bob Ryan, the quintessential American sportswriter, and PK Subban, renowned hockey commentator, Tony navigates through heated discussions about playoff performances, coaching decisions, player health, and memorable personal anecdotes from listeners. This episode masterfully blends expert analysis with engaging personal stories, providing listeners with a comprehensive overview of the current sports landscape.

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NBA Playoffs Analysis with Bob Ryan

Timestamp: 00:00 - 25:26

• High-Seeded Teams Struggling: Tony and Bob discuss the unprecedented trend of higher-seeded teams losing their opening playoff games at home. Tony remarks, "four road teams win game one" ([02:14]), highlighting concerns about consistency and performance under pressure.

• Celtics' Three-Point Strategy: A significant portion of the conversation revolves around the Boston Celtics' reliance on three-point shots. Bob criticizes, "the three-point shot... is the worst thing to happen to basketball in my lifetime" ([25:26]), emphasizing how it has distorted traditional gameplay.

• Jayson Tatum's Performance and MVP Talks: The duo debates Tatum's current form and his standing in MVP conversations. Tony mentions, "Jayson Tatum is hurt, that he's hurt" ([27:48]), while Bob counters with observations on Tatum's resilience despite injuries ([28:05]).

• Cleveland's Health Issues: The health of key Cleveland players like Darius Garland and DeAndre Hunter is scrutinized. Tony points out, "Cleveland is the perfect example... they have injuries" ([28:56]), stressing the impact of player health on team performance.

• Coaching Awards Controversy: Tony questions the awarding of Coach of the Year to Kenny Atkinson over J.B. Bickerstaff, leading to a discussion on the criteria and biases in such accolades. Bob states, "It's a silly award because generally speaking, they ignore a guy who has got the best team" ([23:01]).

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NHL Playoffs Insights with PK Subban

Timestamp: 29:00 - 47:34

• St. Louis Blues' Playoff Struggles: PK Subban and Tony analyze the Blues' performance, especially their defense against teams pulling their goaltenders. Tony notes, "They led the NHL this year in goals allowed when the opposing team had pulled its goalie" ([39:06]).

• Sam Bennett's Aggression: The episode touches upon Sam Bennett's on-ice aggression and its implications. Tony questions, "Is Sam Bennett a sneaky, dirty player?" ([41:43]), while Bob defends Bennett's playing style, emphasizing the high stakes of playoff hockey.

• Coaching Strategies: Discussion on Craig Berube's coaching decisions, with Bob acknowledging, "Craig Berube is the nicest guy in the world... but when he's in that mode, he's got his team" ([41:43]), highlighting the balance between personality and tactical decision-making.

• Player Health and Performance: The health of players like Anthony Edwards is debated. Tony mentions, "Anthony Edwards was terrible last night" ([31:57]), and Bob emphasizes the importance of player health over immediate game outcomes ([28:07]).

• Jeff Gilgeous-Alexander's Motivation: The conversation speculates on what drives stars like Jokic and Gilgeous-Alexander, with Bob praising Gilgeous-Alexander's unique combination of skills, stating, "We basketball fans are being blessed with his presence" ([29:50]).

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Horse Racing Discussions

Timestamp: 05:25 - 08:37

• Preakness Stakes Controversy: Tony expresses disappointment over Sovereignty not running in the Preakness, discussing traditions and the implications for the Triple Crown. He states, "Sovereignty is not going to run in the Preakness... I'm saddened by this" ([05:25]).

• Impact on the Sport: PK Subban agrees, emphasizing that decisions like these are detrimental to horse racing's legacy ([07:55]). Tony suggests, "Make it three and four if you want to" regarding the spacing between Triple Crown races ([08:02]).

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Listener Emails and Personal Anecdotes

Timestamp: 09:08 - 56:48

• Dad's Chips in Stores: Multiple listeners share amusing stories about spotting Tony's dad's chips in various stores. Tony narrates, "I spotted a wall of my dad's chips... naturally I gasped" ([51:06]), accompanied by humorous exchanges with guests.

• Road Work in Local Areas: Listeners inform about ongoing road and bridge work, with Tony providing detailed updates to assist fellow community members.

• Graduation Stories: A listener shares their unique graduation experience, receiving Tony's books as a gift. Tony humorously remarks, "they stink. They're just collections" ([56:00]).

• Birthday Wishes and Trivia: Emails include birthday greetings and playful trivia questions, such as the "Skippy or Jiff" peanut butter debate. Tony adds personal touches, discussing his preferences ([54:33]).

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Concluding Remarks

Timestamp: 56:53 - End

As the episode wraps up, Tony reflects on memorable moments, including a nostalgic golf lesson with Byron Nelson and humorous interactions with guests and listeners. He emphasizes the blend of sports analysis with personal stories, creating a relatable and insightful listening experience.

Notable Quotes:

• Bob Ryan on Celtics' strategy: "I believe that the three point shot... has distorted the game of basketball" ([25:26]).
• Tony Kornheiser on Sovereignty: "I'm saddened by this. I'm upset by this" ([05:25]).
• PK Subban on coaching decisions: "They got to do something to amend that" ([08:02]).

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Conclusion

The "Budweiser and Fresca" episode of The Tony Kornheiser Show offers a compelling mix of expert sports commentary and engaging personal stories. From dissecting the challenges faced by high-seeded teams in the NBA and the strategic maneuvers in the NHL playoffs to sharing heartfelt listener tales, Tony Kornheiser ensures that his audience remains both informed and entertained. This episode stands out as a testament to Kornheiser's ability to blend serious analysis with lighthearted moments, making it a must-listen for sports enthusiasts and casual fans alike.

Transcript

[Tony Kornheiser]

Hey, it's Tony. On today's show, we'll talk about the NBA playoffs with the quintessential American sportswriter, Mr. Bob Ryan. And we'll look at the hockey playoffs with a man who calls me Corny PK Subban. But first, commerce.

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[Tony Kornheiser]

Previously on the Tony Kornhauser Show. So, yeah, she took a job as research project manager, School of Public Health at Harvard. And so, yes, it'll be a different spin class that has to deal with her now. All right, so this puts us into. Into the swimming realm. And one of her teammates in college. Yes. Was Katie Ledecky, or were they separate? Yeah, they were teammates at Stanford. By the way, it's not a bad resume. Stanford, Harvard. It's not bad.

[General George Washington]

It's not bad.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's not Binghamton, but it's not bad. This is General George Washington and you're listening to the Tony Kornheiser Show. All right, so I'm not gonna talk about the basketball games or the hockey games at the top of the show. Even though the Washington Capitals lost and we're outshot. Hello, 33 to 14. Which is ridiculous.

[Michael Wilbon]

It's about the shots you don't take.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I'm not going to talk about that because PK Suban is going to come on the show and talk about hockey and Bob Ryan is going to come on the show and talk about basketball. So I'm going to leave that alone.

[PK Subban]

Yet another road team winning four out of four. Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Four out of four road teams win game one and we'll talk about that, but not right now. What I'm going to talk about, of course, is the Nats. I did not bother to watch the end of the Nats second game. The Nats were losing by a comfortable margin for Cleveland. So, you know, they split the doubleheader. It's okay. I thought that the pitcher is the name Brad Lord. I thought he deserved a little better. I think he's pretty good.

[Michael Wilbon]

The first five innings are what you needed to watch.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, I think he's pretty good. Brad Lord, so. But in any case, it's the first game I want to talk about. I stumbled into the game not realizing it was double heading for you. Totally stumbled into the game at the seventh inning, 6 o'clock or something like that. Yeah, I had no idea. I know the game was rained out on. Today is Wednesday, so on Monday the game was rained out. Right. And I knew it was rescheduled as a double header, but I knew if it was day night, I didn't know. I didn't know when it was. So I wander into the game. The nets are up 10 to 8. Up 10 to 8 in the seventh inning. I have no idea how it got to 10 to 8. And somebody will, I know, recap this for me later in my life. So I'm going to find out. I do think that Dylan Cruz actually got a hit or two.

[Michael Wilbon]

He did. He broke out of that slump big. Yeah, big, big double. It scored one.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Did Josh Bell. Was he the DH or have they.

[Michael Wilbon]

I didn't see the box grabs coming back.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Realized that they should take one of the four outfielders that doesn't play in making the dh.

[Michael Wilbon]

I was coming back from tennis with the boys and I'm listening on the radio and I hear that the Nats are down and they got down in the top of the inning.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Do you know why your favorite pitcher, Jose A. Ferrer, the worst pitcher in the major leagues, gave up five runs in a third of an inning?

[Michael Wilbon]

I think he let, yeah. Five of six batters get on.

[Tony Kornheiser]

His ERA is 7,000. I mean, he's terrible. He's a bridge guy, by the way. He's a bridge guy. He's the Tappan Z Bridge. He shouldn't be on. He should not be playing this. So. So. And there was terrible relief throughout the game. Even the winning pitcher, I think was Jorge Lopez who gave up a run. Finnegan, of course. And I'll get to him in a second. Gave up on the second game. Sims, who's apparently still in the league. Gave up runs. Salazar, who's terrible. He's terrible. Gave up run.

[Michael Wilbon]

Good author.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes. But he's a terrible relief pitcher. Anyway, it's so. It's 10, 8. 10 8. Top nine, right? 10 8, top nine. And they bring in the greatest closer in the history of the one of.

[Michael Wilbon]

The top three closers in majors this year.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right. Even though his era is nowhere near as good as the other two saves. Right. He's got 10 saves, 11 saves, whatever he's got. And he got another save last night. But you have to. You are tortured watching him. He got the first out on the first pitch, right, Michael? Yep. Pop fly. And then how many guys in a row got on base? 3. And he gave up a run. You know, now, and the two outs he needed in the end of the game were both hard hit fly balls. Deep, deep. They got him. They stayed in the park and they didn't require a circus catch, but they were hard hit deep fly balls. And now he's got 100 saves his career and everybody is celebrating this. He tortures you when you watch to your point.

[Michael Wilbon]

Suarez has 14 saves with San Diego, ERA 56. Finnegan is in with 12, tied with Muniz, who has an ERA of.000. Okay, just below that you have a 225. Finnegan right there with a 307.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Three hundred and seven from Marcus in Phoenix, Arizona. Through the beauty of MLB X Jennings TV package. I just finished watching Kyle Finn again in his landmark 100th career save. And he did it with such an easy knife inning. Never doubt, just torture. Absolute torture. And I wanted to talk about that. I also wanted to say how disappointed I am. I understand the reasoning, although maybe we should talk to Ron Flatter about this. But I understand the reasoning. Sovereignty is not going to run in the Preakness. So Sovereignty, the only horse in the world that can win the Triple Crown this year is Baggin It. He'll run in the Belmont, but he's not going to run in the Preakness, you know, because for, I don't know, 150 years, the Triple Crown was the Derby, separated by two weeks from the Preakness, separated by three weeks from the Belmont. And it was good enough for horses for, I don't know, 150 years, but not good enough. Now, you know, they don't want to do it. The owners don't want to do it. The trainer, Bill Mott, apparently doesn't want to do it. So he'll run in the Belmont, the Belmont's an easier race this year and was an easier race last year because the Belmont track is being redone. So the. The Belmont is in Saratoga, and it's a mile and a quarter instead of a mile and a half. The true test of champions. A mile and a half. So I guess that has something to do with it, but it. I'm saddened by this. I'm upset by this. You know that the purpose of horse racing for a three year old is to win the Triple Crown, take a shot at it, and they're not taking a shot at it. It can be explained, but that doesn't mean it's right and it doesn't mean I have to be happy about it, and I'm not happy about it. So I think that the favorite, by the way, going into the Preakness is going to be the horse that was scratched from the Derby, Rodriguez. Bob Baffert's horse.

[PK Subban]

Right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Scratch from the Derby. It's going to walk into the Preakness fresh. The Preakness is a mile, an eighth. It's shorter than the other two races. And I think that that will be because apparently journalism's not running either. Really? I was told by my friend David that journalism was shipped back to California. So the two. The one two aren't running. And it's possible. Was by a third. It's possible the one, two, three aren't running. Millions of dollars in this race. Why wouldn't you run if you have a credential as the winner of the Preakness for stud purposes, that is a major credential. Right.

[PK Subban]

Yeah. And like you said, they can explain it away, but it's just not good for the sport. They got to. They've got to do something to amend that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, the one thing you can do that's easy to do is just lengthen the time between the Triple Crown races.

[PK Subban]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Make it three and four if you want to. Or four and four. I mean, you know, people will complain for a while because they will say that devalues anyone who wins the Triple Crown now, as opposed to Secretariat and Man of War, you know, and horses like that.

[Michael Wilbon]

It's a question of relativity. Because you think the. The value of the Triple Crown writ large would be greater than.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I would think so. Yeah, I would think so. And now they just. It is common that they don't go.

[PK Subban]

Yeah, it is.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's common load management. I don't get it. Maybe we should call Kenny McPeak. Yeah, ask him, did Kenny McPeak go last year with Mystic Dan? I don't know if he did.

[PK Subban]

I can't remember if Mystic.

[Tony Kornheiser]

See, if Mystic Dan ran in the Preakness, he may have. He may have not done it. In which case we can say, kenny, why didn't you do it? But I thought maybe he did it. I'm not sure. I have three emails I'm going to read now. Not in the email section, because they're of a personal nature. By the way, let me tell you what happened to me yesterday. I go into the studio. I go into the studio and Bonnie. Mr.

[Michael Wilbon]

Downtown.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, yeah, Mr. Downtown. Right, that thing you do. So I go into the studio and Bonnie has a guest there, and the guest is introduced to me. He's a nice man. He's an actor, actually does voiceovers as well. And he said his son is a pastry chef and he wanted to give me a bunch of cupcakes that his son just made.

[PK Subban]

That's lovely.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Fabulous. I know what. How pastry chefs work.

[Michael Wilbon]

Are you a cupcake guy?

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, but I certainly would have brought two to you and Liz and brought two to the house and eaten one of them. Or, you know, I'm sure I would have. I was very excited about it and I did that thing which you do when you're stupid. I left it at work.

[PK Subban]

Oh, no.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So I called Bonnie. I said, bonnie, I'm so sorry. I left the cupcakes. Is anybody in the office? You know, because I would say, just give them. And said, sarah's there. Wilbourne's assistant. Oh, sure. I said, give it to her. Give her the cupcakes.

[Michael Wilbon]

This is where you lose me a little bit. At any point, did you think asking someone to drive them to you, because that's where you normally would go.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I thought about it and thought it was alarmingly selfish. However, had Matt Williamson been there. Right.

[Michael Wilbon]

That's why you're asking who's in the office?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes. Had Matt Williams in there, I would have said, tell on your way home, tell William, on your way home to Virginia, stop by the distance, swing by. Yeah. And you can keep a couple for yourself. No, that's the. I would have said, yeah, sure, absolutely.

[Michael Wilbon]

Yeah. By a couple, you mean one.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's what I mean.

[PK Subban]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Two would go to you, two and one would go to me.

[Michael Wilbon]

Did you ever try the. The kid's birthday trick where you cut the cake part in half, horizontal, and then you flip it over so that the icing is now in the middle, like a sandwich?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Never thought of that. Yeah, like that.

[Michael Wilbon]

A neater way for someone who's not A cupcake person.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I'm not a cupcake person.

[PK Subban]

By the way, Mystic Dan finished second at the Preakness.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, so he did. Let's call Kenny McBean.

[Bob Ryan]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

From Mark Poll of Lindt Chocolate who we talked about yesterday. I appreciate the by name shout out. I am thrilled you like the Reese's Filled pretzels. Even more so because I was the commercial lead developing that project. One of the coolest things I've done at the company was try to bring was bring this thing to life. Reese's filled are the available nationwide in stores including Walmart and Target. No need to read my note. Just wanted to let you know you've made a little. Extremely happy. Happy to read the note. Yeah.

[PK Subban]

Job well done. This is a great idea.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Don't tell me where they're available. Send them to me. Let's be fair. Send me a small box.

[Michael Wilbon]

But that's cool to get a look behind the scenes as to how some of these products come because most of it's just a new flavor of Doritos.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Really good. From Phil Hochberg, who you know pretty well.

[PK Subban]

Yes, a little bit.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Don't know if Tony will remember this. Sometime in the early 80s, WMAL tried to pair us on a talk segment following Redskins broadcast the name of the team then I was on it because I'd done radio work and was the stadium announcer with the team for 38 years before I was told I had retired. But the show lasted one week. I was so bad and Tony was so good and so quick that the two of us were never invited back. What's happened to Tony since then? Now at the age of 84, I become a trusted listener, but only on my Monday, Wednesday, Friday walk. Still a Washington baseball fan, I was a senator's PA announcer from 1962 to 1969 especially. Enjoy the national segment. Sorry for having gone on so long. Phil Hochberg. I do remember Phil Hochberg. I don't remember what he's talking about.

[PK Subban]

I don't remember that show.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I don't remember it at all. But if it was on wmal, the possibility exists that Andy Akershausen had something to do with it. Oh, she was the most important media person in Washington in the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s, but I don't remember that show.

[PK Subban]

Believe he was the the Washington football team announcer for some years. I think he's in the ring of ring of honor.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Phil Hochber. Yes, that's what he said.

[PK Subban]

Oh, he said it in the.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Did you not. I just said this Less than a minute ago. Where are you? Are you sitting here?

[PK Subban]

I guess my mind was drifting. Drifting to Mystic Dan.

[Michael Wilbon]

Yeah, I was looking at the Preakness for last year.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. And then I get this other thing. It says, good evening. It comes to the mailbag at the Tony Kornheiser show. I have finally decided to take this into my own hands and reach out. My father in law is David Carpenter, who was Tony's college roommate. He listens to the show religiously and follows along very closely. I would love to help. Put them in touch. Please let me know how. Annie Carpenter. Okay. So every once in a while, Nigel gets an email from someone and says, do you know this person? Says he went to school with you at Harper College. You know, this person, says he met yet the super bowl on a corner. Do you know this one? Do you know that one? And most of the time I don't know them. Although every once in a while I do. Mike Landau, who went by the name of Otto at camp, sent an email some months back. And of course I know Otto. And Barbara the other day, Barbara Vinier, the other day. Barbara Vinier, who has written a book and had been the president of a number of community colleges and was very highly respected in the academic world. And Barbara lived. Barbara lived across the hall from me at 20 Conklin Avenue. Well, someone lived in the apartment with me at 20 Conklin Avenue, and that was David Carpenter. David Carpenter from Glens Falls, New York. David Carpenter, whose diet consisted of Budweiser and Fresco and also would occasionally eat Cheerios. Dry out of a. Out of a container. David would do that. I have enormous fond memories of David Carpenter, who later, I think, went on to room with Jimmy McSparrin, who was another upstate guy. But I really, you know, I thought David was very, very smart. He's from upstate New York. For some reason, it sticks in my mind that he had something to do with the prison systems in upstate New York. But I'm not sure about that on the outside. Not. Not on the inside. Right. Although he may have been a guard. He may have been a guard. I don't remember. He was dating a girl who did not go to Harper College. I thought. And my memory may be completely wrong because I'm unburdened by memory. I thought her name was Jeannie Donato. And it's possible that they got married. And it's possible that that results in the son who was married to Annie Carpenter. And when she says, I would love to help put them in touch, how hard is it? David, how hard is it? That's not. I'm hiding under a rock. If you listen to the show, you know where I live, you know where I do, you know everything about me. So if you want to get in touch with me, it's really not that hard. I hadn't thought to get in touch with you. It didn't come top of mind to me. But yes, I would love to. I would love to talk to David Carpenter and catch up after all these years. So, Annie, thank you very much and we will take a break and Bob Ryan. Well, join us. I'm Tony Kornheiser. This is the Tony Kornheiser Show. Mother's Day is almost here, and it's the perfect time to reflect on everything moms do to make life better. Whether it's the home cooked meals, the endless support, or those little moments of wisdom, moms always find a way to show up. Maybe it's bringing over your favorite food without being asked. Maybe it's how just being in her house makes everything feel right. Or how she still believes you can do absolutely anything. And yes, some moms even treat the family dog like their grandchild. So this year, send her happy flowers for Happy Mother's Day from the Boucs company. That's short for Bouquets. And I've got 25% off for you too, so you can spread that happy around. Bouchs aren't your typical flowers. They're cut fresh from top quality farms, which means they're bigger, more vibrant, and last way longer. Some are even grown on the side of a volcano. No kidding. Pick a cheerful bouquet or send a flower subscription so mom gets fresh blooms again and again. It's easy. Just choose your flowers, select a delivery date and you're done. And why stop with mom? Share the love with aunts, grandmas, wives, anyone who deserves it. Mother's Day is May 11th, so don't wait. Go to Boogs.com. use the promo code Tony for 25% off. That's B O U Q S.com promo code Tony. Use the code, people.

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[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Unknown Sports Commentator]

That is exactly correct. And not enough has been made of the fact that they are playing shorthanded with three regulars right now. They mentioned about Mosley last night. Well, Darius Garland didn't play and DeAndre Hunter didn't play. That's three of their first six. So that's rather important. I think they're in very serious trouble if they can't get healthier than that. Meanwhile, Indiana is better than people thought and they are timely, that's for sure. And how about Halliburton?

[General George Washington]

Wow.

[Unknown Sports Commentator]

And the idea, what a play he made.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Banging it off the back rim.

[Unknown Sports Commentator]

Fantastic. You see this? Tried so often. It seldom works. It worked at the most propitious moment. But what I'm getting at here is that this guy's got to be playing with a chip on his shoulder with this nonsense about being the, quote, unquote, most overrated player in the league in that survey. And they did him a favor. What a gift to them, to him and the Pacers. You think he's not going to carry that around? Oh, my God.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He's got three straight great games. The last game against Milwaukee and he has won the first two games against Cleveland. He looks. He looks like a great player. I mean, do you. Did you understand it when you read that players, not all the players, but enough players, had him number one as the most overrated? Did you agree with that?

[Unknown Sports Commentator]

I don't know what that was all about. I really don't. I mean, how high he's rated. But I mean, I. It just. I don't know. Anyway, it. We all get. They got mileage out of it. There's been mileage made out of it. But he's got to be embracing it and having fun with it. I'm serious, so. But I didn't understand it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I would suggest one other thing that gives him a chip on his shoulder, and that was his old man getting booted out of the ballpark. Justifiably. But I think he's playing for him, too. What do you think?

[Unknown Sports Commentator]

Well, he could be. Obviously they're very close and his father loves his son, as we know, is pretty demonstrated and I'm sure vice versa. And although. But he does know that it. Dad went over, you know, way out of line. After that Milwaukee game, way out of line and maybe they've had a little talk about it and. But, but you could. It could be. It could be that he's. But regardless, he's playing great ball and. Yeah, so. And good for him.

[Tony Kornheiser]

The Cleveland coach, Kenny Atkinson, who used to coach the Nets, was voted Coach of the Year. Wilbond strenuously objected and said that J.B. bickerstaff should be Coach of the Year, who ironically was fired from the Cleveland team so that Kenny Atkinson could move in there. What are your thoughts on that? Or do you have another Coach of the Year in your mind?

[Unknown Sports Commentator]

I think that J.B. bickerstaff would have been. He fit the profile, as you well know. It's a silly award because generally speaking, they ignore a guy who has got the best team and doing a good job as a rule. And this is all Sports Manager of the Year Coach of the Year. What they're looking for is a team that nobody expected to do a whole hell of a lot that overachieves to a certain degree, and that's who gets those. I'm sure if you examine the profile, certainly baseball and basketball and I guess hockey too, that you would find that that's the profile most fit by more winners than any. You know, I think famously, Red Auerbach never won Coach of the Year in his day, you know, kind of, from what I gather, and not that they had much going on in those days, but the point I'm making is people shouldn't get hot and bothered about it. It's a no. And I'm sure Michael, you know, I know he's back very proprietary toward. Toward Bickerstaff, and that's fine, but I'm not outraged one way or the other.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, what do you make of four higher seeded teams winning at home? Losing rather at home? What do you make of that?

[Unknown Sports Commentator]

I love it. And, you know, but I, you know, been around long enough that I got plenty of history to back up that it's no shock, okay? The fact that when it happens out of context, it's no shock when. For. When it's happening to the degree that it's happening now. It certainly is an historical curiosity, but I'll just go back just to remind people. In 1984, game one, Los Angeles won 15, Boston 109, who won that series. Even better. 1985, first game, Boston 148, LA 114, who won that series. And then Wizards fans of a certain age should remember that in 1979, the bullets won game one against the sonics and never won another game. Yes, they lost in five. This is nothing new. It's just odd that it's taking place all over the place. But in any given context, no one should be surprised at this level that a team loses a game one at home. The question is, what do you do? And I think we all expected Cleveland to bounce back as we expect. As I expect the Celtics to bounce back and. But that's generally what happens and when teams are this good.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So let's go to the Celtics and I'm sure you have confidence that they will beat the Knicks. They were four. No. In the regular season against the Knicks and the Celtics are a great road team so they're going to have any terrible time in New York. But is there no plan B on offense when you've taken 60 threes and only made 15, is there no plan B?

[Unknown Sports Commentator]

This is obviously topic A in Boston, Massachusetts. This is topic A and it is exactly. We've seen this before. And the problem, if you want to call it a problem, the reality is this is how they play and Joe Missoula is not going to deviate. We've gone through this at times and during the regular season. This is not a shock to see them lose a 20 point lead by consistently picking up threes after they get the lead. This is how they play. This is who they are. No, it's foolish. It's terrible. You know, you know me, I'm a purist. You know that I believe that the three point shot and what I'm about to say is not hyperbole is the worst thing to happen to basketball in my lifetime. And it has distorted the game at every level and changed the nature of the game of basketball. And I don't think we're in a positive manner now. Have that said. It's here, it isn't going anywhere. And so they. I have to live with it and people like me have to live with it. But we would. We saw countless occasions the other night when Tatums particularly had opportunities to go to the basket and chose to throw up another three. And throw up is the proper concept, I think. So there you go. They were 15 for 60, as you point out, by the way, last night Minnesota was 5 for 29 in defeat. So yeah, this is the curse of the three or the blessing of the three, depending on it. But this is the way the game is now and we're used to seeing that here. We get very frustrated when we know that they go to plan B, you know, but it's hard convincing Joe Mazulla, to get upset about this. I don't think he's upset at all. In fact, I saw a clip this morning, Tony already, in which his answer to a question about how you do better said, make the shot, he'll make the shot. He said, just make. We just have to make them. They're going to take them. And he said, we're going to make. We got to make them.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Do you have any sense? I have a friend of mine who believes that Jayson Tatum is hurt, that he's hurt. And that's why we know he has a.

[Unknown Sports Commentator]

He's, he's. See, this is another thing about they're dealing. He's dealing with a wrist, Brown's dealing with a knee. And then we got, of course, Porzingis.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Who supposed to play game two.

[Unknown Sports Commentator]

And right now he's recovering from a viral, quote unquote, viral illness that cost him eight games down the stretch. And he said, and he went out of the game sick the other day and he's this morning I read that he says he was as sick as he's ever been in his life at that point when he was missing those games. So he's not anywhere close to 100%. And Jrue Holliday has been battling stuff. So I'm much more concerned about their health than I am about the fact that they're 0 and 1. And as you pointed out, they were 33 and 8 on the road records of all time. But their health, health, they're so much more important than anything else. Tony, I would rather play seven road games in the playoffs if I'm healthy than go into it unhealthy.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Cleveland is the perfect example of that. Cleveland's up right now. Let me, let me get.

[Unknown Sports Commentator]

I mean, they're down three people. People aren't giving them enough slack on that, you know, and that, I mean, Mosley's very important. Hunter was a big addition. That was in fact, he was the, I thought he was the best trading deadline move that any team made was them picking up DeAndre Hunter. And of course, Garland is a top, is an excellent player. So they have plenty of excuses. But. And legitimate ones.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Let me go to the Denver series. And something that is in the back of my mind that Jokic with an opportunity to play on the same court for as many as seven games as Gilgeous Alexander would, would see this in a personal way. I mean, he had 18 in the fourth. He had 42 and 22 on the road and his team won. And maybe he thinks to himself okay, you guys want to do a revote on MVP right now? Do you have any sense of that?

[Unknown Sports Commentator]

I don't know what really motivates him, how much extra motivation he needs. I think that might be something. Yes, for sure. But I just want people to appreciate what we've got here. What we basketball fans are being blessed with, with his presence in our life. We haven't ever seen anything quite like this. The totality of his package. You know, there's a part Sabonis, there's part Kareem, there's part Larry Bird, there's part. He's something that we have not seen to this degree before and I love watching him play. But yeah, if he certainly needed any extra motivation that that would give him some because apparently it's all. The straw polls indicate that it will be SGA winning, but you know, then he's won. It's not like he's been, you know.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, he's won it twice. Right.

[Unknown Sports Commentator]

He'd have to make a little more room on his mantle for the trophy, but yeah, yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All right. I'll close with the Minnesota Golden State series, which I sort of ignored because I didn't think those teams were on the level of the other series to this point. Curry got hurt. Yeah, they can't win without Curry. But it, although he got hurt, it didn't look like he was in, you know, agony. It didn't look like it might keep him out. He could miss Game 2. They don't. They're not going to care about that, right? They're not going to care.

[Unknown Sports Commentator]

It's a hamstring apparently. And he. We saw him with go with his clutches, left hand. You know, they could win a. You know, they would look a little. Look how they got here in game seven with Buddy Hield taking. Carrying them in the first half and Curry then rose up and gave him a complete only for all round game at the end of the game anyway. Yeah, it's not the most compelling series at all. There's no question. Golden State's playing to show people they still have something left, you know. Yeah, there's no question that's a. It's a house money series for that for both of them, really. Minnesota's on the rise. They're showing their people they got something that people can, you know, get excited about down the road. Anthony Edwards is one of the really bright young stars in the league. And so actually it's a. To me, it's a double house money series.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Anthony Edwards was terrible last night and Chris Finch called him out, which you don't see a lot.

[Unknown Sports Commentator]

I know.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That was great.

[Unknown Sports Commentator]

I love that. Well, he needs to be reined in, if you a little bit. You know what I mean? He's a wonderful talent, but he's a little full of himself. And, you know, that can work to your advantage or disadvantage, depending on the circumstance.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Bobby, thank you so much. I appreciate it. We'll talk soon about this stuff. Thank you.

[Unknown Sports Commentator]

Thanks for having me, Tone. Bye. Bye.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Bob Ryan, the quintessential American sports writer, knows everything. He really does. We'll take a break. PK Suban will join us when we return. I'm Tony Kornheiser.

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[Tony Kornheiser]

Once again, this is Virginia Coalition masking themselves as your old radio. This is a song called Anesthesiology. You don't hear that in the title of many songs. It's about drinking too much. In New Orleans, a common theme emerges. We're playing and this is your old Radio is playing at the Pearl street warehouse on May 31st. I promise many littles attend we will perform Reginald's theme a very special episode upon the first of Cheesaroo we hear seats are sold out but there's lots of standing again this is Virginia Coalition our friends as your old radio Michael if people like Virginia Coalition want to send in their original music, how do they do it?

[Michael Wilbon]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

My new friend PK Suban, who's one of the great guests we have on pti. We love having him on because of his enthusiasm about hockey. Wilbon grew up with hockey in Chicago I grew up with hockey on Long island when I lived in Long Beach. On Long island, that's where the Patrick family lived and so the Rangers practiced at the rink in Long Beach, Long Island. But I never really got into hockey as much as I should have and I wanted to I'm going to ask you something that we talked about yesterday. You're a hockey player. I think when you're a player in any sport, one of the first things you have to learn is to get rid of the bad losses. I don't think you can dwell on them because if you dwell on them, you're going to become a psychotic at some point. But I'm a fan and I'm a writer and I how do the St. Louis Blues players get rid of this thing, which was unprecedented, PK to lose a two goal lead in three minutes, whatever it was when the other team pulled a goalie and you gave up two goals that way and it's a game seven, how do you get rid of that?

[Bob Ryan]

Well, I mean, you first have to come to reality that anything can happen in a hockey game. And you know that over time as you gain experience, especially at the professional level. So, you know, I don't know. I've always felt as a player when I step on the ice that I haven't seen it all and to expect the unexpected. And as a defenseman, you know, it's that times a million. And like for me, if there's anybody that's going to lose sleep, it's always the D man at the end of the day because even you know, with your goaltender, you're the last line of defense. So you always think, you know, could I have done something different? But in this situation, to be up to nothing, be in complete control of the game and lose that way to me, I don't know how you come back from that. Like, I don't know how you sit through the whole summer and not think about it, right? Because, you know, when you really think about their team, they had a legitimate team with legitimate goaltender, legitimate defense, which is very, very difficult to put together in the salary cap era. And they were able to do it. Like, you know, if you look at their defense again, you probably put that same decor together. So when you think about it, I always, you know, over time, you remember certain players and teams that couldn't get it done or, you know, had great teams and couldn't get over the hump for that group. That's a moment when you see, like, Mark Scheifele out and Hellebuyck not playing his best. Like, you know, that's your opportunity to take advantage of that. Like, it could not have been set up any better for them to win that hockey game. That's what stings, right, Is when you look at it and, like, all the odds are in your favor and it doesn't happen. Sometimes that can make it easier, though, Tony. And that's my point, is that that's hockey, and that's what we always say, is that the game is so quick now. It's so fast. In my time, maybe I wouldn't have accepted that. But now with the game, I mean, the puck is constantly moving, it's bouncing. Players are so skilled. Like, how quickly that puck went outside the dots, to the half wall, back into the middle and into the back of the net, all within, like, it seemed like a second and a half. It happens so quickly. So that's how you have to see the game. Like, fans oftentimes criticize the referees for missing calls. But, like, it's not like basketball. Like, hockey's like 10 times faster. Like, the guys are moving so quickly. The puck is moving so quickly, the guys are thinking so quickly. Sometimes in real time, it's difficult to catch things. And imagine being a player now with all that adrenaline and the noise and everything going on, and the game's moving so fast. That's how good you have to be. You have to be two steps ahead. And, you know, for St. Louis, they fell behind. They lost their composure for a few seconds, and that's all it takes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's all it took. Do you know that they. They led the NHL this year in goals allowed when the opposing team had pulled its goalie with 13. So, you know, maybe. Maybe this was a problem all year long in that circumstance for them.

[Bob Ryan]

So I was going to get to that point. I kind of wanted to bring you in, and I talked, I spoke about this to Best and A couple of the guys in studio, because I said, you know, did Jim Montgomery have enough time to really kind of get this team completely? Like when you come in as a coach like that late, your focus is like, okay, I got a great team that's playing well. I got to get this back on the tracks. And, you know, he's got new players coming into that locker room. Like those things six on five you work on in training camp. Like I remember, we come into training camp and we could only be at the rink for three hours a day. So once we got through all the fitness testing and all that stuff and our coach knew we were in shape, we went right into those systems, pulling the goalie, six on five, all that stuff. So, you know, that's what I remember. So you started those things early in the year for Jim Montgomery. He didn't have that luxury. Right, right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He was not. He came in after the season started. Right, right.

[Bob Ryan]

So even though some people are going to be critical of the coaching, it's difficult to have your team completely set and organized the way you want to when you come in during the season. It's not easy. And the way he came in, you have to give him credit for where that team got to from when he got there to where they ended. And most teams and most coaches and organizations would take that in a heartbeat. So, you know, it's a double edged sword. But for those players individually, to answer your question, nightmares. Yeah, that's for some of those guys.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That'S what I think.

[Bob Ryan]

So hard to get there.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, I agree. We'll move on to the Florida thing where the goalie Stolars got hit the other day by Sam Bennett. And I heard we asked you this question and you said right away, look, that's a hockey play. Okay? It's not a penalty play, it's a hockey play. And I think that again, as a hockey player, you say that as a writer or somebody who steps back from it. I look at it and I wonder, is Sam Bennett a sneaky, dirty player? You know, because there's all these clips of him hitting somebody when nobody's looking. Is as he a sneaky, dirty player? And do we celebrate Florida's toughness too much or is that toughness the reason they won the Stanley cup and got to the finals the year before?

[Bob Ryan]

Yeah, well, first, first and foremost, it says Craig Berube's got to do what's best for his team. And you know, people need to understand in the playoffs, this is like no one's giving an inch. Not the coaches, not the trainers, not the players. No one's giving any inch or any inch of sympathy rather, to any team. So you have to understand that Craig Beruba is the nicest guy in the world. And. But. But when he's in that mode, he's. He's got his team. And the same thing for Paul Murray. So I wouldn't get too caught up in the coaches and everybody going back and forth. That's a part of the game. But on the ice, I mean, of course, players play on the edge. I played on the edge. I mean, damn it, I wanted people thinking they had to be careful around me. Like, I didn't want anybody skating around me thinking that they were okay. No, you had to have your head on a swivel. So that's not a bad thing to have. And Sam Bennett plays on the edge, but he's always played on the edge. He's always been that type of player, and that's his game. And, you know, I think he does a lot of other things out there that are really well outside from how he uses his body. So I think that when you become a Stanley cup champion and you go to the finals, two now, possibly three, if they make it back to the finals this year again, you know, people are going to be critical of your team and their style works for them. It doesn't work for the other 30 or 31 teams in the league. So, you know, I think there's some envy there with the toughness in the way that Florida plays, but they're not going to worry about it. And I didn't think that that played like people to think. And I don't know about Anthony Stolar's symptoms. We don't know. Like, I don't know why he was sick on the bench. I don't know where that came from. I don't know if he entered the game sick. I don't know if that was done in that moment. But I have to think that based on what I saw, like, with my eyes, like that whatever was caused wasn't caused in that moment. Now, I'm not going to come out and say it because I don't know that. But based on my eye test, I would say that that came from something else. Like, I wouldn't say it even came from that. So, you know, in that situation, I think people are making a bigger deal out of a play that's a nothing play. Like, that play happens a lot. And even you looked at yesterday with Aiden Hill when they. I can't remember who it was, I think it was Connor Brown. That's exactly who it was. Made a nice move from the outside to the inside toe dragged inside on Theodore and went in for a backhand. He gets bumped and he collides with Aiden Hill in the crease. And right away the ref's arm goes up and they call him. And he hit Aiden Hill like five times as hard as Sam Bennett hit him when he went through the crease. So, you know, it's so it's all, it's just being objective and it's in Toronto, so everything's heightened. Nothing plays for Lutoni.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Let me, let me ask this. We closed yesterday on PTI asking for a slight preview of Edmonton against Vegas and the Capitals against Carolina. And you thought that Edmonton would have a difficult time against Las Vegas over the course of the series. They won yesterday. The Capitals lost. I care about the Capitals because I live in Washington, DC. They were outshot 33 to 14. What do you make of that?

[Bob Ryan]

Well, and aside from that, I think Carolina had like 90 or 89 or 90 something shot attempts, which is insane. I can't remember the last time I saw that many attempts thrown at a net in the playoff game. I said this on the air last night, Tony, after the game or during the game rather, that it was embarrassing, you know, because I, I haven't seen Washington play a game like that probably since before Spencer Carberry had gotten there. You know, that was like, that's the sluggish team that didn't really have an identity, didn't really, really know how they needed to play, was just trying to hang on, like that's not who the Washington Capitals are. Like they're a team that gets up and you saw that last game that when they did get out the skate, they were fine. I don't know if they just couldn't find their game. You know, I wouldn't be panicking around this game at all, Tony. But I definitely be assertive if I'm Spencer Carberry with how I addressed my team last night after that game or today rather, because it's inexcusable. You can't come out like that in front of your fans at home for game one of the second round against a team like Carolina that, you know, on any given Sunday doesn't matter what day of the week it is those first 10, 15 minutes of the game, it's like it's globally known that they come out and fire as many attempts at the net as they can. So this should not have been a surprise right this is the way Carolina plays. So I just think it wasn't their day and in our sport that doesn't fly. It's not good enough to say that it's not your day. You have to exhaust more of an effort than that. And I think for them they're better than that. That was the frustrating thing last night is that I wish Carolina would have pumped them seven nothing and the game wasn't that close because Carolina deserved to be up by seven goals. They just don't have enough scoring in their lineup. And listen, they ended up scoring enough to win. So I'll give them that. They were the better team yesterday. But you know, Washington playing at their best game should have put more goals on the board and should have been more present in that game. So, you know, Tony, I know you're a fan. You live in Washington.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Bob Ryan]

You know, you know, be disappointed about this, you know, tongue lash them all you want, but they're going to come back a whole lot better in games.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's good.

[Bob Ryan]

You know that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

We will talk to you on the air next week. I'm sure. We love having you on. Thank you, PK.

[Bob Ryan]

Thank you 100% Tony. Anytime for you, man.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All right, PK Suban, boys and girls. He's fabulous. He's fabulous on the air. We'll take a break. We will come back with email and jingle. I'm Tony Kornheiser.

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[Tony Kornheiser]

Champion Whistler World champ Chris Ullman, Binghamton's own world champion Whistler, trying to teach the.

[Michael Wilbon]

Hammer how to whistle.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I don't know how to whistle.

[Michael Wilbon]

I don't know how to teach it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I. I don't know how to do it.

[PK Subban]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Amazing. All right. You want to do the Bethesda Bagel lift?

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[Tony Kornheiser]

Before we get to the mailbag, let me just say your everlasting summer you can see it fading fast so you grab a piece of something that you think is going to last well, you wouldn't even know a diamond if you held it in your hand the things you think are precious I can't understand Are you reeling in the years? Slowing away the time? Are you gathering up the tears? Have you had enough of mine? That's really in the ears. That's Steely Dan. They're real smart.

[PK Subban]

Pretty good.

[Tony Kornheiser]

They're real smart. Thanks to our guests today, Bob Ryan and PK Sub. And thanks as well to today's sponsors. And remember, you can listen to us on Apple podcasts Spotify and Odyssey. Get show through Apple. Please leave us a review. Okay, here we go. Tom Kenton, first time, long time. Thank you for all the smile since 1994, thereabouts. I wanted to share my first sighting of my dad's chips in the Giant grocery store in Potomac this morning. The store is about a mile south of Falls Road golf course and on the opposite Side of Falls Road from Renato's restaurant that you mentioned in the past. That's it. That's email and encloses a picture of my dad's chips.

[PK Subban]

How about that?

[Tony Kornheiser]

That. That's not as extraordinary as being in South Jersey or someplace.

[PK Subban]

That was a big.

[Michael Wilbon]

This is expected. We can always stop into Moby's for a good lunch.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, here's another Another big discovery display in this email. Another big display of my dad's chips from Jennifer Vasilek or Vasilek, Alexandria, Virginia On a recent pod, you, Michael and Nigel were speaking about the thrill you experience when seeing my dad's chips out in the wild. A few weeks ago I experienced that thrill. One of the perks of my profession, at least to me, is that my job requires me to travel quite a bit during those travels. Your show is usually playing in my headphones as I make my way through security lines, waiting in gates, or scouring the ever evolving culinary offerings of our nation's airports. Since I'm based in Alexandria, Virginia, this makes Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport DCA my home airport. On one of my recent trips, I visited the Monumental News in Terminal C looking for a snack to fuel me through my week long work trip. When I turn a corner and I spot a wall of my dad's chips, picture attached for proof, naturally I gasped, took a picture to send to my fellow little mother, Gretchen, and stocked up on a few bags to take with me to San Antonio. They were just the crispy, salty snack I needed to last me through the week. So for any littles traveling through dca, make sure to make a pit stop at the Monumental News in Terminal C for one of the best airport snacks in the game. Isn't that great?

[PK Subban]

That is.

[Michael Wilbon]

I was on the phone with Nancy yesterday. She. She's looking for some new chips.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Is that right?

[Michael Wilbon]

She loves the chips.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh, that's wonderful to know.

[Michael Wilbon]

Alan will tell her.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Ben Carton, not Ben Cardin. Ben Carton, the official unofficial senator of the show, heard you mention rainbows on Monday's pot and how rare they are. I tend to think they are pretty common, but that may be because I see one every day on my box of Lucky Charms cereal. Maybe I'll send you a box of that so you can see rainbows all the time. It's not the same. Not the same?

[PK Subban]

Not really.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Greg in New York Monday morning, Tony. Did you see the rainbow yesterday? It was breathtaking. Tuesday morning, Tony. What rainbow? What? No. Because I have no memory.

[Michael Wilbon]

You're not burdened by memory.

[PK Subban]

Not Burdened by memory.

[Tony Kornheiser]

David Epstein in New York. I imagine you're probably inundated with rainbows, but perhaps not many. From downtown Manhattan. This one appeared right by NYU and as Nigel alluded, created a rare moment when people seemed happy to be stuck in traffic. And yes, in a picture in Manhattan of a rainbow.

[PK Subban]

That's a good one.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's bright colors. Yeah, bright colors. Mark DeFlorio, Snoqualmie, Washington. You think? S, N, O, Q, U, A, L, M, I, E. Snoqualmie, Washington. Pooches. Dfa. The Nats win. Did anyone check to see if there's a gnats bullpen at the end of that rainbow? Well, there wasn't yesterday with Jose A. Ferrer or Salazar. Also, did you know rainbows are complete circles? They get their bow shape from hitting the horizon. I didn't know that.

[Michael Wilbon]

Where's the rest of the circle?

[Tony Kornheiser]

I didn't know that. Yeah. Where do you find it? Should the gnats not go on a run? A nature show could be a good fail safe. Travis Benton in Boise, Ohio. Only one question. Skippy or Jiff? Just so you know, the fate of my whole peanut butter universe revolves. Revolves around that answer. That's it. And he says, by the way, the correct answer is Skippy. I will tell you that. I. They're both fine. I. I'm not just like. No, not crunchy. I only want the smooth.

[Michael Wilbon]

Crunchy is only for apples.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I don't want that. I just put a spoon in there and eat it. That way. I don't.

[PK Subban]

And one spoon for you and Chessy.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Note.

[PK Subban]

One each.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No. 1 for both of us. The.

[Michael Wilbon]

No. No.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Stir from. No. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, no.

[PK Subban]

You don't want that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Jason Bullet, Chuck and Roxy episode 31 in Saratoga County, New York. A heads up to my fellow capital region Littles. The off ramp from exit 7 of Interstate 87 and Interstate I know well has been reduced to one lane going to Route 7 eastbound for road work. This will be in place until September 30th. Also, there's bridge work on Route 7 in both directions until June 5th. Those wishing to get onto Route 7 can get off at exit 6 of I87. Those wishing to access Route 2 eastbound can get off at exit 5 and take Route 155, though it's ridiculous because anyone who lives in this area knows you can also get off at Exit 6. The rum dums at the New York State dot can eat it. Okay then. Faith Courville. Remember, she's that young girl who's going to Baylor. Going to Baylor, yes, in the Woodlands, in Texas. Not to be the annoying person who emails frequently after getting one read one time on the show, but there's an update to the overlap of the show in my senior year, the saga continues. I walk for my associate's degree. I earned it as a dual credit student since as a homeschooler I won't have a high school graduation ceremony. I felt that was the next best option on Friday, and my dad kicked off graduation week with a pretty unique gift. All three of Mr. Kornheiser's books. I'm very much looking forward to reading them. They stink. They're just collections. They're not real books. And I thought I'd drop another small note. Isn't that and thanks for mentioning my graduation card. So the ones that I wrote from the columns pumping irony, bold as I want to be and I'm back for more cash. But they're not. You know, you're not gonna but thanks.

[Michael Wilbon]

Carm Real time to re release. Still back for more cash.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Carm Real Lakewood, Colorado via Syracuse, New York. Among the numerous April 23rd birthdays brought up last, Nigel mentioned Warren Spahn and you said spontane had gotten lost over the years. Here is amazing statistics and they are quite 363 career pitching wins and 363 base hits. But that's not all. With the Braves, 356 wins and 356 base hits. With the Mets, four wins and four base hits. And finally with the Giants, three wins and three bass hits. I have no doubt that Mr. Avocado Tim Kirchen will verify this amazing feat for you. Please tell my former co worker Rob Stronick to eat it. Rob is our dear friend.

[PK Subban]

We love Rob.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Rob was the one who sent the picture of Pat, 40.

[PK Subban]

Oh oh, with the Missouri journalism hat on.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, I'm sitting here watching the Byron Nelson on a rainy Sunday afternoon in New Jersey, and that name brings up one of my most memorable moments in golf that I've been around for 60 years. Years. As Tony knows, I've had a storied career in my youth around selling golf balls found across the street from where I lived at Clearview Golf course at age 10, selling soda and tea times later on at 12. I've also been playing since then with modest success. Three Senior Member Club Championships 2014, 2015, 2018. No, I'm lucky to finish in the money. The memorable moment occurred at the Westchester Classic in 1967. I was with my best friend Richie Katzen in those days Byron Nelson was the commentator and always did a half hour clinic on TV before the broadcast. He was chipping with a seven iron, doing some low shots and he asked me to shag the balls. After the telecast, he came over and handed me the seven iron and said to hit a few. I hit one or two. Okay. And then he came over and stood in front of me and took my hands and moved them over a bit. He had huge hands and was so nice to a kid from Clearview. That's the only golf lesson I've ever had. Regards, dg. What a life, what a life from Steve Gilmore, San Angelo, Texas. I call vacuuming the bees as a band name. That's pretty good. Brandon Borzelli in Lebanon, New Jersey. The 50,000 bee count, does that number include season ticket holders or is it actual bees in the hive? Is there a five year waiting list to get into the hive like the old Washington football team used to have? Any of the bees need the purple line to get out to Virginia? Brilliant. If you're out on your bike time as always. Everyone do wear white.

[State Farm Ad]

What's that?

[Bob Ryan]

Chicken Every night is the chicken.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Holy God Almighty.

[Bob Ryan]

Is it possible just once you get something to eat for dinner around here that's not the chicken?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Hey, dad.

[Bob Ryan]

I'm just saying.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Dad.

[General George Washington]

Do you remember when the girls were little? All the things we thought we lost along the way? Guided by the stars above Aided only by our love Looking back they were the good old days. Just like the time we were stuck in the middle and we learned it's hard to make somebody care. Yeah, we knew that it was wrong but it didn't last for long. We were just lucky to get out of there. You won't ever have to be alone. You won't ever have to be alone. You won't ever have to be alone Are you won't ever be alone so let's get you home. Gonna need you just like two rounds ago when you said that It'll be the greatest thing this world has ever known yeah, you're making quite a mess but we don't love you any less Thinking it's time we try and get you home but you don't ever have to go back there alone Hell, you don't even have to go at all. All you won't ever have to be alone all you won't ever be alone so let's get you home Gonna get you home gonna get you home gonna get home deep. Do you remember when the girls were little? I'm just following you Something to do it's out of the ordinary? You don't have to put it away? Think that it's your win? I keep saying that you don't need to follow me? You keep talking about anesthesiology? You don't know where you've been but you know where you're going? Thank you for patiently waiting on the thing for which I faintlessly know? Oh, it's just out of reach? So I just got to leave it alone? And I'm just about ready to go? You keep turning up down in the underground? Throwing all your around? Making everybody sound better than they should? That's how you flow in? I keep saying that you don't need to follow me? You're still talking about anesthesiology? I don't even know where I am but I know where I'm going? Queen of Carolina still waiting on the thing for which you famously know? She's just out of reach? So you just got to leave it alone? Leave it alone? And I'm saying what you already know? Oh, Queen of Carolinas. To wait on the thing for which I'm famously no. Oh, she's just out of reach? So I just got to leave it alone? Leave it alone? I gotta leave it alone? But you see what I already know.