“Call Amazon?”

Summary

The Tony Kornheiser Show — “Call Amazon?”

Date: May 1, 2026
Host: Tony Kornheiser
Guests: Andy Beyer (horse racing expert), Josh Maurer (Milwaukee Brewers play-by-play announcer, first PTI intern)
Regulars: Michael Wilbon, Chan, Unknown Female Guest

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Episode Overview

This episode sees Tony Kornheiser and friends running through the day’s major sports news before welcoming two notable guests: Kentucky Derby guru Andy Beyer for the annual Derby preview, and Josh Maurer, original PTI intern turned MLB broadcaster for the Brewers, who’s in D.C. for a Nationals series. As always, Tony’s daily frustrations with modern technology and customer service are front and center, lending the episode its title. Interwoven: irreverent asides about family, sports, growing potatoes, and the war on passwords.

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Key Discussion Points

1. NBA Playoff Blowouts & Sports Takes

[02:21] — [04:39]

• Knicks-Hawks Playoff Game: Tony rails against an egregiously lopsided match.

  “Worst game I’ve ever seen in a playoff game… Knicks destroyed Atlanta. They were up… 62 to 20 in the second quarter… Garbage. Absolute garbage.”
  (Tony Kornheiser, 02:21)

• Philly Surprises Boston:

  “Now, I think if you’re a Celtics fan… you have to seriously consider that when Jayson Tatum got back, something changed on that team.”

• Minnesota Beats Denver Despite Injuries:

  “I thought they would lose… Minnesota lost its entire starting backcourt—Dante DiVincenzo, and more importantly, Anthony Edwards... He’s the most important and best player on that team.”

• Assistant Coach Name-Drops: Ties to “fan favorite” Nathan Bubus, highlighting the proliferation of NBA assistant coaches and Timberwolves’ deep staff.

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2. MLB Roundup: Nationals, Mets, & Trade Musings

[05:11] — [06:43]

• Nationals’ Success: Nats win series against the struggling Mets.

  “The Mets are terrible. C.J. Abrams hit a home run late after Meatball Nicholas gave up a 3-run jolt.”

• Player Development Talk:

  “I’m glad you got to see… James Wood robbing a Juan Soto would-be home run.” (Wilbon, 05:45)
  “Nice symbolism just in terms of what that trade was—Juan Soto is a great hitter, and a player who’s trying to literally turn around a season for that team by himself.” (Wilbon, 06:05)

• Juan Soto/Mets Fan Anguish:

  “…I know there’s a lot of money involved. I wonder if he thinks, ‘Boy, I made the wrong choice leaving the Yankees’… He could be the biggest star with the Mets.”

• Money and the Price of Stardom: Why being the “face” of a team entices elite players.

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3. Rant: Tony vs. Modern Billing (AT&T and Beyond)

[06:43] — [16:41]

• Title Rant: Tony’s ongoing war with AT&T customer service and digital-only billing systems.

  “I hate AT&T. I hate AT&T with the passion of a thousand suns.” (Tony, 06:43)

• Paperless Frustrations: Despite switching to paperless at AT&T’s behest, Tony’s bill goes up by $8 without explanation, and he is unable to get a human representative.

  “All I really want to do… it feels suspiciously like a late fee. $8. If my bill is the same all the time, why did my bill go up?”

• Login Grievances:

  "Nobody remembers their password to everything. I could not get through..." (Tony, 09:47)
  “Even when they say sign in with a new password, it wouldn’t accept it.”

• Universal Customer Service Complaint:

  “Every company now… even your local lawn service—it's an automated… you get someone in Manila. Everybody utilizes that.” (Tony, 13:46)

• Panel Chimes In:

  • Auto-pay and tracking bills.
  • The generational gap on checking accounts, online banking, and facial recognition (“I don’t know how to do anything,” Tony confesses).
  • Mutual confusion over multi-factor passwords, special characters, etc.
  • Wilbon jokingly offers to serve as Tony’s tech support:

    “We talk five times a day anyway. I’ll walk you through it.” (Wilbon, 15:40)

• Memorable Quote:

  “Because you need a college education to have a password.”
  (Tony Kornheiser, 16:01)

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4. Kentucky Derby Preview with Andy Beyer

[20:36] — [28:13]

• Quality of Derby Field:

  "I have a very different view this year. I think this is potentially a really outstanding group… overall contention goes at least eight or ten horses deep.” (Andy Beyer, 20:36)

• His Derby Pick:
  • Further Ado — Andy’s choice.

    “He ran certainly the best single race by any horse in the field… a jaw dropping performance… he started to pull away from the field like he was going to be in another county… He’s got the capability to run a monster race.” (Beyer, 22:49)

  • Trainer Brad Cox:

    “All he does is win... When I'm betting on races, particularly in Kentucky, if Cox is in, I'm always scared of Cox horses.” (Beyer, 24:20)

• Post Position/Strategic Concerns: Not overly worried about Further Ado’s draw.
• Renegade as Favorite: Doesn’t see him as “the horse to beat,” just one among many contenders.
• Pleas for Tradition:

  “I just hate the idea of trainers ducking big races with good horses because they want to give them a little more rest… this is the Triple Crown. This is what people live for.” (Beyer, 27:32)

• Classic Lines:

  “The Beyer Speed Figures — they're not named for your cousin, they're named for Andy Beyer.” (Tony, 20:11)

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5. With Josh Maurer: From PTI Intern to Big League Booth

[29:42] — [44:03]

• PTI Origin Story:
  • Josh recalls his internship at PTI’s launch and small errands (“I had to get Hershey’s chocolates… your snack of choice”, Maurer, 30:26).
  • Tony’s early skepticism:

    “I hope you all are renting and not buying. There’s no chance the show’s going to make it.” (Tony, 30:57)

• The Road to Major League Baseball:
  • 20 years in minor leagues after Maryland, covering every level.
  • “I worked at every level that a player could be in in the minor leagues...” (Maurer, 33:05)
  • Waited tables during the 2020 pandemic shutdown, reaffirming his love for broadcasting.
  • Landed with Milwaukee Brewers in 2021.
• Play-by-Play Life:
  • Classic booth rotation modeled after Bob Uecker (“Nobody can be Bob.”)
  • Balance of play-by-play and conversation, with humor and warmth.
• Recent Brewers Storylines:
  • Brandon Woodruff, team ace, faces injury issues—unexplained velocity drops (fastball at 85 mph).
• Banter about Nats’ New Young Manager:
  • Tony: “The Nats are managed by somebody much younger than you at this point. Butera’s 33 and looks 23…”
• Josh’s Side Gigs:
  • Also broadcasts Boston College basketball. Fun tie-in: Bill Murray is owner of his former minor league team (Charleston RiverDogs), and now Bill’s son, Luke Murray, is BC’s head coach.
  • College sports conference realignment lament (“It makes no sense. You’re an alum, you get it.” Tony, 43:11)
• PTI Pride: Tony’s delight in former interns’ success, Josh’s gratitude for early opportunities.
• Favorite Callback:

  “The most I’ll ask for is parking. If I go to a game, I’ll just ask for parking.” (Tony, 43:55)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Broadcasting Frustrations:

  "What I think is my password is apparently not my password." (Tony, 15:43)

• On Modern Technology Gaps:

  “How did you get so far ahead of me on all of these things?” (Tony, 16:28)

• Sports as Refuge and Community:

  “As a 20, 21 year old, to have that experience with a show that was blossoming very quickly… it kind of just made me feel like I belonged in the world of sports.” (Maurer, 31:49)

• On Horse Racing:

  “This is the Triple Crown. This is what people live for.” (Beyer, 27:37)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Topic | Timestamp | |------------------------|--------------------------------------------------|--------------| | NBA Playoff Recap | Knicks blowout, Celtics/Philly, Minnesota upset | 02:21–04:47 | | MLB/Nats/Mets Talk | Mets struggles, Soto, Nats highlights | 05:11–06:43 | | AT&T Rant | Billing, customer service woes | 06:43–16:41 | | Kentucky Derby Preview | Andy Beyer: Field analysis, picks | 20:36–28:13 | | Josh Maurer Interview | From PTI to MLB booth, Milwaukee, career arc | 29:42–44:03 |

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Running Gags, Listener Letters & Closing

• Listener Mailbag:
  • Humorous reader feedback on jackets, Survivor references, Chuck Todd shout-outs, and potato farming.
  • Running self-deprecating bit about Tony’s memory — “Unburdened by other memories.”
• Interlude & Outro Music:
  • Music from “Big Big Furnace” played between segments, with listener contribution announcements.
• Classic Comedy:
  • Bethesda Bagels plug and Tony’s musical nostalgia (Johnny Horton lines, jokes about old sports stories).
• Signoff:
  • Tony’s signature:

    "If you're out on your bike tonight, everyone, as always, do wear white."

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Takeaways

• Tony remains the curmudgeonly heart of the show, simultaneously baffled and bemused by the modern world but always earnest about sports, friendships, and the daily absurdities of life.
• Expert voices (Andy Beyer, Josh Maurer) give sports fans real insight and memorable stories, seamlessly woven with nostalgia and self-aware humor.
• Recurring themes: Disdain for impersonal customer service, love for the community of sports, reverence for old school ways, and the kinship formed through shared frustrations—with technology, fandoms, and bureaucracy alike.

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The full episode, as always, is rich in laughs, warmth, and (sometimes accidental) wisdom—a true slice of the sports-radio-podcast community.

Transcript

[Tony Kornheiser]

Hey, it's Tony. On today's show, we will preview the Kentucky Derby with legendary horse racing expert Andy Beyer. And we'll talk to Josh Maurer, who started out as one of the first interns of pti. The first intern of pti. And now he's calling games for the Milwaukee brewers, who are playing the Nats this weekend. But first, let's keep the sales weasels happy. Previously on the Tony Kornheiser Show. What a delight to have you on. Thank you, Brian. Thank you.

[Josh Maurer]

Thank you. Thank you, Tony. I hope you enjoy some wonderful basketball and I think it would be great on the 1:00am SportsCenter tonight, you and, and Wilbond giving your, your take on,

[Tony Kornheiser]

you know, on the games of the day. I would happily go on the 4am Sports center because I'm up. The Tony Kornizer show is on now as Jason Blazer writes from Orion or Orion, Michigan. Ah, the heralded 4am Sports center where champions come to watch clips. Yeah, 4am Sports center. I am up. Wilbond is up, too.

[Chan]

Well, he's still up.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He's doing still up. Right. And he's getting ready for nine other things. So we, we have a guest in studio. Chan is with us today. Very happy to have Chan. I put his headset on. He's, he's ready to go.

[Josh Maurer]

Oh, yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Very excited. And we'll include him quickly after I do my rants. But you want to talk about Greg Garcia?

[Chan]

Oh, yeah. Greg's got some shows he's going to be at this weekend. He's going to be perform at the St. Charles Funny Bone in St. Louis or St. Louis, as you might say, featuring for a guy named Julian McCullough

[Tony Kornheiser]

who I'm sure is very funny.

[Chan]

Yes. Two shows tonight, two shows Friday or two shows tomorrow night.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So head on by if you're in St. Louis.

[Chan]

If you're in St. Louis.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Lovely city.

[Chan]

Yes. St. Charles Funny Bone, you know, it's

[Tony Kornheiser]

the birthplace and home of Charles F. Barry. Yes. St. Louis, Missouri. Yes. Big, bright, beautiful moon last night. First time in four or five months that I was able to see it cooperates at its top. We had a clear night last night. It was beautiful. Did the boys see it at all?

[Michael Wilbon]

As I told you last night, we had one boy dealing with a temperature. So that was a priority. Number one was bringing the 102 fever down, which we were successful in that endeavor. So he did not see the moon.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. The other two, yeah, they saw the moon. Okay. Well, you know, two out of three ain't bad. I've heard that somewhere. A guy I went to high school.

[Michael Wilbon]

Good lie, something.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Workshopping two out of three ain't bad. I'm going to deal with the basketball. The worst game I've ever seen in a playoff game was last night. The Knicks at Atlanta. Knicks destroyed Atlanta. They were up. I had moved away from the television set. I was paying no real attention to it. When I got back from walking the dog, they showed the score. It was the second quarter. It was like 62 to 20. It was the second quarter. They went up by 50 in the second quarter. They were up by 60 in the third quarter. An incredible embarrassment for the NBA. Garbage is absolute garbage. And it was a. You know, it was a train wreck. So you had to watch for a while. And then I was texting back and forth with Wilbon about it, and I said, it's cruel to watch anymore. And I'm stopping. I just don't want to watch anymore. The. The score of that game surprised me. The result of that game, the Hawks

[Michael Wilbon]

won the fourth quarter.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay? The Knicks were, by the way, if you. If you paid careful attention, we're taking as much time in the 24 second clock as they could to hold it down, you know, to just get out of the possession without creating something in six seconds to get the ball back. They were actually trying to be kind. Atlanta was terrible. It's a terrible embarrassment for the league. It is. The other two games stunned me. The winning team stunned me. I did not think Philadelphia would beat Boston in Game 6, even though it was in Philadelphia. I did not. I thought Philadelphia had its great game in Game 5 in Boston. Now, I think if you're a Celtics fan now, I think you have to seriously consider that when Jayson Tatum got back, something changed on that team, and they may not be able to hold off Philadelphia. And Philadelphia is not very good. It's not very good. And I thought Boston was very good, so that surprised me. But not as much as Minnesota beating Denver, even though it was in Minnesota. Minnesota lost its entire starting backcourt. Dante DiVincenzo, and more importantly, Anthony Edwards, who's the. He's the. By far the ant man. Right. He's by far the most important and best player on that team.

[Chan]

Sure.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And even though that game was at home, I thought they would lose. I thought Jokic.

[Michael Wilbon]

That's social, I guarantee.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. And so. And the socialite was there. Yeah, he was there. Supporting our favorite coach in the NBA, Assistant coach Nathan Bubus. Yes. But that was a total.

[Michael Wilbon]

What row of coaches, Nathan, Fourth I think. Okay.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You know, I think. I think the Minnesota Timberwolves, like most teams now have between 30 and 65 assistant.

[Michael Wilbon]

So still lower bowl.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, he's still in the lower bowl. I just don't. I don't think he can touch the court from where he is. I don't think he can breathe on the court from where he is. So I wanted to say all that and also credit the Nats won again. The Mets are terrible.

[Michael Wilbon]

Series win.

[Chan]

Yeah. Two out of three.

[Tony Kornheiser]

The Mets are terrible. C.J. abrams hit a home run late after Meatball Nicholas gave up a 3:1 jolt. 3 run jolt.

[Michael Wilbon]

Honestly, the home run is not the issue is the walk to Boba shot that I think was in 11 or 12 pitches and he had a full count and tried to nibble with the off speed pitch in the upper part of the zone and then led to a Soto rocket of a single.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Nicholas and Little, they're not major league pitchers right now. They should not be in the major leagues. Oh, they'd be practice. Their eras are like seven or eight.

[Chan]

Yeah, I think Nicholas is 8:2:7 or something.

[Michael Wilbon]

I'm glad you got to see what I would consider the play of the game which was James Wood robbing a Juan Soto would be home run.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes.

[Michael Wilbon]

He jumped perfectly.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay.

[Michael Wilbon]

Right where the defense 7.

[Tony Kornheiser]

If he's 6ft tall, he can't get to that ball.

[Michael Wilbon]

Just nice symbolism just in terms of what that trade was.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes. For Juan Soto. Yeah. Juan Soto is a great hitter.

[Michael Wilbon]

Yeah. And a player who's trying to literally turn around a season for that team by himself.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And other people wonder. I know there's a lot of money involved. I wonder if he thinks, boy, I may have made the wrong choice leaving the Yankees. I'm in the same city. If I like the city, I could have been with the Yankees. The Yankees are better. But. But, but they have Aaron Judge and. And Juan Soto's never going to surpass Aaron Judge as long as Aaron Judge is playing. So maybe he wanted to go to a team where he could be the biggest star. Yeah.

[Michael Wilbon]

And aspect of being the face of the Mets and turning that around is very appealing if you are the personality

[Tony Kornheiser]

of Juan Soto turning it around. It's not like they don't spend a lot of money to get good players.

[Michael Wilbon]

But if you could be the face that finally did it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, so let me. Can I get to my rant now? I hate AT&T. I hate AT and T with the passion of a thousand subs.

[Michael Wilbon]

All right, turn up the volume.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, just about six or seven months ago, I agreed under duress from AT&T, which all it really wants to do is fire all of its employees. They don't want to have any employees. They want to conduct all their business electronically through email. They don't want employees. So a couple of checks. They claimed a couple of my checks had gotten there late and they were giving me late fees. And I found a human being and talked to and worked the whole thing out. And then I said, okay, you can put me on that program where you email me my bill and I will continue to write checks. They said that was fine. I will write a check to the address.

[Michael Wilbon]

Paperless billing.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Paperless billing. Right. This is. They are in Carol Stream, Illinois. I remember that because it's an odd name. Carol Stream, Illinois. And I have the. I have the address written down, four or five different spots so I don't lose it. And within four or five days of me getting a bill, I send them a check and send them a little note. And the note says, this is for this account on this month, and I hope you get it, and so on and so forth. Well, I keep track of my checks, and my bill is always $182. That's what it is now. I don't know what you pay for your wireless phone service. That's what I pay. That's a lot less than my heating bills. It's a lot less than my gas bills.

[Michael Wilbon]

Don't even ask about cable.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's. Oh, it's. It's half cable.

[Michael Wilbon]

If the unused cable boxes in this house.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Just unbelievable how expensive my cable is for no reason at all. Although Derek west is trying to help me out on this. Yes. If I could even understand what he wrote me. I need Michael to interpret what he wrote.

[Josh Maurer]

Success.

[Tony Kornheiser]

But it's a little bit. It's around the same as my water bill. I'm not. It's. It's. I don't even know if it's expensive. $182. I don't know what other people pay. So I don't know. Chan. What. You know what you pay? Yeah, we're talking to them. And that's why we have microphones in America.

[Unknown Female Guest]

That's why. Yeah, I know what we pay.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Do you pay anywhere near $182 for what? For wireless cell phone. For cell phone stuff. Yeah, about. About that. Okay, so it's sort of average. And I'm not. I am not at all. I can afford. We're not going there. You all know that. It's not the money, I can afford it. I'm willing to pay it this month.

[Michael Wilbon]

And more than anything, it's the expected bill. There's, you know, you see it every month and $82.80.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's what it is. I looked up previous checks. 182 80. This one's $190. Oh, okay. So you're going to say it's not. It's $8. Doesn't matter. No, it doesn't matter. But I. Yeah, I'd like to know what.

[Michael Wilbon]

Where is that $8 coming from?

[Tony Kornheiser]

What's it from? Is it a late fee? Is it some additional charge? So they have a thing where you.

[Michael Wilbon]

Petco delivery fee.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes, they have AT&T. I guess everybody has this thing. They have a thing where you can press on it. It says see Bill. So I pressed on it. They wouldn't send me my bill. I had to log in to do a capture. I don't remember. Nobody remembers their password to every. Nobody ever remembers it. I could not get through. And then I finally hit the thing that said contact us. So I hit contact us and I began to type crazily. Can I talk to a person? Can I just talk to a person? I've been with you for, I don't know, 100 years, going back. Can I talk to a human? Is Mr. Bell there? And I don't. And no, there's nothing. There's no response. And then it also says, do not reply to this email because all replies are gutted like fish. Just what do we. I hate them. I want to change carriers now. I just. All I really want to do because it feels suspiciously like a late fee. $8. It feels like, what else could it be? If my bill is the same all the time, why did my bill go up? That's all I want to know. And I have to go through a million hoops to get it done. And even when they say sign in with a new password, which I tried it, wouldn't accept it.

[Michael Wilbon]

I can't believe I'm doing a total 180 on this. I. I now want you to get the paper bill. Go back to the paper bill I want. Make them pay for it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, that's all I want to do. Then.

[Michael Wilbon]

At least then you can circle and itemize what's going on.

[Tony Kornheiser]

This happened to me. This happened to me with a security system, a sort of similar thing. The security system in Delaware. They sent me a bill and in which they informed me from now on because I paid through paper checks. They were going to charge me, $5 more a month for the privilege of paying on a paper check. And I called them and got a person. I said, I cancel you right now, today. And I said, oh, okay. No, don't. No problem then. Yeah, no problem. You had to back them against the wall. It's the leverage. But AT&T, there's all these other things, right? Kevin Bay. Who do they like? T mobile.

[Michael Wilbon]

T mobile, yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Can I just change something else?

[Michael Wilbon]

You can. The question.

[Tony Kornheiser]

This is nonsense.

[Michael Wilbon]

What you always have to make sure is where you live. You want to make sure that your service is good in and around your house. Now that you have the ability for WI Fi to support your calls in your house, it's less of a big deal. But you just want to make sure when you want to use your phone, you actually have service.

[Tony Kornheiser]

In other words, these other people sell you services that.

[Michael Wilbon]

No, there's just little. Sometimes you have little low service areas. You sometimes feel or hear that when you're. When you're driving and on a phone call

[Tony Kornheiser]

somebody. Somebody we reach must work for AT&T or know somebody who works for AT&T and could just put in a word. Just. Just drop me an email. Just give me a number. I just want to talk to somebody about this. I've done what you've asked me to do, and now I cannot reach a person, a live body, to ask a question. Is that. No, Chen, you don't. You're not. You can be critical. You were in education. I could sound like, he's a big auto pay guy.

[Michael Wilbon]

He doesn't check these bills.

[Unknown Female Guest]

I. I was an education, and because of that, I use auto pay everywhere, so.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And that's what I should do. So. No, they just deduct it. But how do you know they're not deducting more?

[Unknown Female Guest]

Because you look at the bill every month. You still get the bill.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You know, I don't get a bill.

[Michael Wilbon]

You could have your. You could have your information.

[Unknown Female Guest]

How often do you check your checking account?

[Chan]

12 times.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I check my account all the time.

[Unknown Female Guest]

Well, then you'll see what they pull out of there for those. Those things.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, but. But I don't. Oh, no, I don't do it that way. I sort of wait for the. For the checking account resume to come. Once a month.

[Michael Wilbon]

No.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Michael Wilbon]

You don't go online for this.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I don't go on.

[Michael Wilbon]

I don't know how to go online.

[Unknown Female Guest]

You don't have to go online.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I don't know how to.

[Andy Beyer]

Okay.

[Unknown Female Guest]

We're talking about some issues.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I don't know how to do anything.

[Michael Wilbon]

I think my favorite part about this is, like, there's a sacred part of your day that is the prep time for pti. And you just spent probably an hour during that time trying to figure out AT&T.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Trying to get to AT&T. It was just. This is ridiculous. It's ridiculous.

[Michael Wilbon]

Call her. Daniel Eichmann.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Thanks.

[Michael Wilbon]

Somebody talked AT and T. Do you

[Tony Kornheiser]

know how every company now, even like a local company, like, seriously, even like your local lawn service, when you call, it's an automated. No, no, no, no. You get someone in Manila. Oh, no, you do. Everybody utilizes that because they're open 24 hours a day, and everybody utilizes that. I don't usually like that. I have difficulty understanding them. They have difficulty understanding me occasionally. Sometimes it works very well. And they're always very polite. But I always get. I always have that reticence that they can actually help me because there's so far away. They're so far away. But I would talk to someone there from at&t. Just to talk to a person, just. Just to say, how can this be? Just tell me what this extra charge is and why it exists. So I can't get to my bill. But you know what you can do without a password? Pay without viewing bill. Yeah, that's. That's in the, in the field there. You can press pay without viewing bill.

[Chan]

Just give us the money. Let's make it easy for that. Everything else difficult.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Am I. Am I outrageous here?

[Michael Wilbon]

No, I'm. I'm just smiling because we're going to figure out what that $8 is. And I hope it was a game that someone purchased 10 years ago that they're finally catching.

[Chan]

I don't.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Don't understand it.

[Chan]

Oh, yeah. The interesting it would be when the next bill comes out, if that charge, if that amount is still the same now, and that's just the new normal, or whether it goes back to the.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What was it, 180, 80, 182 80.

[Michael Wilbon]

And once again, if it does, I'm. I'm beginning to worry that we're having issues with your checks arriving to the correct place on time.

[Tony Kornheiser]

They are really late. They're often. I've had five or six checks in the last four months that never got there.

[Michael Wilbon]

So again, we can.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And I mail checks in the post office.

[Michael Wilbon]

We can come up with, like, these admin nights where you sit down. It's the second ending of an ad scheme. We just say we're doing all these, you know, every cycle, every billing cycle. We sit down and we do click to pay through the online saved information.

[Tony Kornheiser]

When you say we, are you referring to you and me?

[Michael Wilbon]

Well, we talk five times a day. Anyway. I'll walk you through it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I don't know how to do. I don't know how to do anything. What I think is my password is apparently not my password.

[Michael Wilbon]

Just give me access to that route.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Again, you need more passwords. Everybody must have. Everybody in America must now have, I don't know, 115 passwords. Can't possibly remember them. No.

[Michael Wilbon]

And just make sure it's not one of the last five you used.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, and you can't use something common. And also, when you have a password, you have to use numbers, letters, and special characters. Yeah. What is that? I mean, well, because you need a college education to have a password.

[Unknown Female Guest]

Tony, have you ever used facial recognition? They just recognize your face and that's

[Michael Wilbon]

how your phone opens up for you?

[Tony Kornheiser]

No.

[Michael Wilbon]

Do you remember when I made you take a photo and now your phone will open up by just. You were looking at it?

[Unknown Female Guest]

Yeah, that's what I do.

[Tony Kornheiser]

How did you get so far ahead of me on all of these things?

[Unknown Female Guest]

Well, you know, it's just I decided. I listened to you talk about it all the time, figured I'm not gonna go there. I'm going to figure new ways to do these things.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Just awful.

[Unknown Female Guest]

Facial recognition.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Let's get out of here.

[Michael Wilbon]

Get your apple paint.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Wait a second. Well, what happens if you have plastic surgery? What happens then? I mean, does it change?

[Unknown Female Guest]

I might have to try that and see what happens. It could.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, do we have Andy or do we have Josh?

[Chan]

Andy is next.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Andy Byer when we return, as we have Andy every year to pick the Kentucky Derby chance.

[Michael Wilbon]

Taking notes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. Yeah. Well, chan. Because of Joe Drape knows all about the horsies.

[Andy Beyer]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

As Wilbon would say, Andy Beyer when we return. I'm Tony Kornheiser. This is the Tony Kornheiser Show. Let's be honest, Mother's Day gifts can get a little predictable. They're nice, but they aren't home runs. And the older you get, the more you realize how much moms actually do the stuff you didn't fully appreciate growing up. So it feels like they deserve something a little more lasting. And that's where aura frames comes in. Instead of something that fades after a few days, it's a gift that keeps evolving. You can keep adding photos and videos over time so it never feels static. It's also super easy to set up, and it comes packaged beautifully so you don't have to overthink the presentation. It's just a more meaningful way to say thank you for everything, past and present. Make Mother's Day special with aura frames named number one by wirecutter. You can save on the gift moms love by visiting auraframes.com for a limited time. Listeners can get $25 off their best selling Carver mat frame with code Tony K. That's A u r auraframes.com promo code Tony K. And when you check out, let them know you heard about oriframes from us. Terms and conditions apply. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. Mother's Day is coming up. And you know, when you're a kid, you don't really notice everything moms did for you, like helping you buy socks and making sure they were the right size or helping to plant potatoes every spring all the time. You may not have appreciated it, but now you get it. She's always in your corner. She always will be. So yeah, Mother's Day matters. You got to get it right. And honestly, the easiest way, Books. That's short for bouquets. And how about this? You can get 25% off your order just for listening to this show. These aren't just flowers. They're cut fresh from the best farms. They're bigger, brighter, they last way longer. Some even grow on the side of a volcano. You can send a vibrant bouquet or even go big with a monthly subscription. So mom gets that little moment of joy again and again. And when she smiles, you'll know you nailed it. Plus, There are over 55,000 five star reviews, so you know it's legit. It'll take you like two minutes to get it all done. Pick the bouquet, set the delivery date, and you're set. And with 25% off, you can grab something for your wife, your aunt, your grandma. Cover all your bases. Mother's Day's May 10th. Don't wait. Go to boox.com, use code Tony for 25% off. That's B O U Q S.com promo code Tony boox.com we've had these things. They're good. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. This is Big Big Furnace. We've played them before. We got a note from Andy Shaner in Sun Prairie, Wisconsin. You've played them before. But I'm very excited to announce that my friend's band, Big Big Furnace is reuniting for a one night only show next week. Any little's in the Madison, Wisconsin area and all their friends are invited out to the Harmony Bar on Atwood to see them open for the Shawn Michael Dargan Trio on Friday, May 8th. That's next Friday, May 1st. The beer is cold and the rock and roll is hot. The show starts at 9pm this is big, Big Furnace with Amy and it plays in Andy Byer. And for all the years that I've done sports radio or sports podcasts or whatever this thing is, Andy Byer is, is the most reliable guest. He's always on before the Kentucky Derby. Always. We don't do the show without Andy Beyer. And as I've said many times, the buyer speed figures are named for Andy Byer. They're not named for your cousin. The name for Andy Bayard, because he knows more than everybody. Let's just start with this. Is there anything special or significant about this Kentucky Derby to your mind?

[Andy Beyer]

Well, you know, for me, a lot of years when I've done your show, I looked at the field for the Derby and said, oh, this would say this is really a kind of a subpar group of 3 year olds and I guess horse players inclined to be negative. But I have a very different view this year. I think this is potentially a really outstanding group. I think we're going to see, I hope we see a good race, but I think we're going to see a lot of these horses like, emerge, you know, as major players. You know, I'm really looking forward to this race. It's going to be good.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Do you want to talk about some of the horses you are identifying here as good horses?

[Andy Beyer]

Well, there's a lot of depth in the field. You know, the buyer speed figures, typically in the Derby takes about a figure of 100 or 101 to win it. And this year there are numerous horses who regularly are frequently run that fast. And it's just a, you know, I think a lot of horses in here have shown the capability at one time or another, you know, to run Derby winning races. And, you know, I can't identify a, you know, an obvious favorite. I mean, the Morning lion has a horse named Renegade, trained by Todd Fletcher, who's pretty good, but he doesn't look any different from anybody else. I mean, I've got a selection in the race that I felt a little excited about that we'll talk about, but just overall contention goes at least eight or 10 horses deep in here.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Wow. I mean, because usually you've got one or two and yet to go as deep as 10. There are other horses just that came to mind because they've been talked about on this show a couple of times. Further Ado and Potential. Are they in your group of horses that could win?

[Andy Beyer]

Yeah, well, let's talk about Further Ado because, you know, he, that's the horse I'm going to bet. He ran certainly the best single race by any horse in the field. I mean, the Bluegrass Stakes at Keeneland has historically been, you know, the most important prep for the Kentucky Derby. And when he ran in it a month ago, it was just a jaw dropping performance. I mean, he started on the final turn, he started to pull away from the field like he was going to be in another county. And the tracker announcer, as he opened up about an eight length lead, exclaimed something like, we've seen this before. Well, it was last fall at Keeneland. He had won a race, he had won a race there by 20 links. And, you know, that's something he does all the time. But he's, he's got the capability to, you know, to run a monster race and he's done other, a lot of other stuff going for me. You know, Brad Cox, who is his trainer, you know, may not, you know, for the general public, have the visibility of guys like Bob Baffert and Todd Fletcher, but all he does is win with. When I'm betting on races, particularly in the mid, you know, in Kentucky, if Cox is, I just always scared of Cox horses, he wins at a terrific percentage. And I mean, he's just an extremely confident trainer. And his horse is just fire. I mean, this is, his overall winning percentage is 26%. That's really extraordinary, you know, when you run as many horses as he does. So, you know, and he's got a, you know, he just got other stuff going for him. He's got a, you know, an outstanding pedigree. And as I say, I mean, Cox's presence is a huge plus. I mean, my old friend John Scheinman, former Washington, Washington Post colleague, watches all the workouts down in Kentucky. And he said, this horse has just been training tremendously. So that's, you know, that's the one I've got my eye on. But again, there are innumerable horses in here, you know, who, you know, have got great connections, great pedigrees and, you know, and could easily step up and knock him off.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, if you like Further Ado, that's what we need to know. We need to know who you like and if you like him. Is there a, is there a problem? Like Renegade has a bad post position. He's Got one. Is there a problem at all?

[Josh Maurer]

With further ado, say that.

[Andy Beyer]

I mean, I, you know, in, you know, in a, in a 20 horse field, you really can't tell how post position luck is going to be play out. If I, you know, if I had a horse and he got post position one, I just told jockey, you know, get out of the gate fast, stay on the rail and don't get into trouble.

[Unknown Female Guest]

Right.

[Andy Beyer]

You know, he, I don't see why he would necessarily be the, everybody's choices as the potential favorite. I mean, he's got a, you know, he's got a great pedigree, a great jockey and so on, but he's just one of, in my view, one of the contenders now. But he, his, his last race was a win in the Arkansas Derby and he really, I will say he, he really finished like a rocket. When I look at the, you know, the fractional times in the race, I mean, he, he, he accelerated exceptionally, you know, in the, in the final quarter mile or so. So he's, he's one that you got to take seriously. But I think he's going to be a little bit over bet.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I just hope that whoever wins this year goes to the Preakness, unlike last year. I hope they go to the Preakness this year, especially if they're going to make the Preakness in three weeks instead of two. So, so do you have any thoughts on that?

[Andy Beyer]

Well, I was very disappointed last year when Bill decided to skip the Preakness. Yeah, you want to be cautious, you want to be prudent with your horses. This is the Triple Crown. This is what people live for. And I just, I just hate the idea of trainers ducking big races with good horses because they want to give up a little more rest. I mean, come on, you know, they weigh a thousand pounds. You know, they can handle it. So I hope nobody plays that game.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Me too. Andy, it's great. We'll call you back before the Preakness. Thank you, Andy.

[Andy Beyer]

Okay, bye. Bye, Tony.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Andy Beyer, who again? There is this thing called the Bayer speed figures. It is one of the three or four most important things you can learn before betting a horse race that's named for. Andy Beyer spent his whole life doing this.

[Chan]

And if he tells you he likes a horse, he's probably betting on it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I got the horse right here. Oh, he's betting it?

[Chan]

Oh, yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh, no, he's not, not betting it. He's not betting another horse so that you'll bet this horse and the odds go up on his horse. He's not doing that. He's not doing that. We'll take a break. When we come back, Josh Maurer will join us. I'm Tony Kornheiser. Some follow the noise. Bloomberg follows the money. Because behind every headline is a bottom line. Whether it's the funds fueling AI or crypto's trillion dollar swings. There's a money side to every story. And when you see the money side, you understand what others miss. Get the money side of the story. Subscribe [e-mail] you're listening to the Tony Kornheiser Show. Once again, this is Big Big Furnace. This is a song called I Would. And I'll remind you that next Friday night at 9 o' clock at the Harmony Bar on Atwood, they'll be playing to open for Shawn Michael Dargan Trio. You can go. You can go. According to Andy Shaner, Michael, if people who make original music like Big Big Furnace want to have their songs played on this show, what do they do?

[Michael Wilbon]

Send us some music by emailing to

[Tony Kornheiser]

[e-mail] and Big Big Furnace plays in Josh Maurer, for those of you who don't remember, who don't listen to the show all the time, Josh Maurer was the original intern on the PTI program. And I look in the mirror and realize it was 100 years ago. It's actually literally 25 years ago. It's 25 years ago. What do you remember anything about the beginnings of PTI and your internship? Did you actually do anything? Because I would have had you just go out and get food.

[Josh Maurer]

That's what I would have done. You did. I went to the cbs, which was a block away from Atlantic Video where the original PTI studio was, and I had to get Hershey's chocolates.

[Michael Wilbon]

Good.

[Josh Maurer]

Because that was, that was your snack of choice. I remember the first day that I met you was probably three or four weeks before the show hit air. And I was sitting in the newsroom with a very small group that we had that had been working. And you walked into the newsroom and I think truly was the first time that I had heard you speak. And you looked at the group and you said, I hope you all are renting and not buying.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. There's no chance the show's going to make it. Yeah. Look at us. Look at me and Wilbon. There is no change.

[Josh Maurer]

Yeah. Yeah. And that was the, that was probably the first time that we met, but I remember so much about it. It was, I was an Undergrad at the University of Maryland for those first two years of PTI 2000, fall of 2001 through 2003. And it was the greatest experience of my life because I was taking classes, I was broadcasting games for the student radio station in Maryland, and I would take the metro there to the Atlantic Video Studios, and three or four, sometimes five days a week, I would work with you and with Mike and Kelleher and ride home and everybody else. And I just felt like a king, because as a 20, 21 year old, to have that experience with a show that was blossoming very quickly, it kind of just made me feel like I belonged in the world of sports. It was great. It truly was, Tony. One of the most fun experiences that I've ever had.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And I should tell people now that he, you know, 25 years later, Josh is broadcasting Milwaukee brewers games. You know, sitting in the booth, broadcasting the games. So there is a. There's a career to be had there. But in your career, unlike mine, I mean, Wilbourne and I, we were newspaper people, and they threw a television show in front of us, and we laughed and we said, sure, okay. But we had no expectations. But you're doing something you have always wanted to do. Tell the people how many stops there were along the way, because you must have broadcast a million games before you got to the major leagues with the Brewers.

[Josh Maurer]

Yeah, it felt like a million. It was almost 20 years, actually working in the minor leagues. My first job out of Maryland was with an independent league baseball team, working as the pre and the post game studio host for the Brockton Rocks.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And Rocky Marciano is from Brockton. Yeah, Rocky Marciano.

[Josh Maurer]

City of champions. Yeah, Rocky Marciano. Marvin Hagler is from Brockton, Massachusetts.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay.

[Josh Maurer]

And the Brockton Rocks won the Northeast League championship in the summer of 2003. And that was how it started. I worked, actually. I think it. It kind of really helped me get ready for Major League baseball because I worked at every level that a player could be in in the minor leagues. I went from independent league baseball. I did single A baseball in Charleston, South Carolina, double A baseball in Trenton, New Jersey, and triple A baseball in Pawtucket, Rhode Island. And that was from 2003 through 2021. Just kind of moving all over the place. And I had a parallel track call in college football and basketball, too, in various places. So it did. It took me longer than I had hoped. And I would tell you not to get too wordy on this, but during the summer of 2020, I had kind of made up my mind that that was going to be it for me in play by play broadcasting. I was frustrated. I hadn't made it to where I wanted to get. And then the pandemic happened and the minor league baseball season was canceled. The major leagues ended up playing the minor leagues never did. And I was waiting tables and I was about to turn 40 years old. Yeah. Our Triple A baseball team in Pawtucket had turned its outfield grass into a somewhat full service restaurant, which was.

[Andy Beyer]

Yeah.

[Josh Maurer]

And the, the boss of the team, who was Larry Lucchino, actually said to all of us, hey, you know, you work for a baseball team, but there's no baseball. So you actually now work for a restaurant if you. If you'd like to still be employed this summer. So that's what I did. I waited tables. But it made me really kind of reaffirm my love for calling play by play and broadcasting, because I missed it so much. And then a year later, I got hired in Milwaukee.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Was it always baseball? I mean, like, people who listen to this show know that Charlie Steiner and I go back a long way. Charlie went to Malvern High School. When I went to Hewlett High School. Charlie always wanted to do, not just baseball, Dodgers. Charlie got his actual dream, which is, you know, it's 50 million to one that that's going to happen. But, Josh, did you always want to do baseball or would you have, if it came along, would you have done NFL football instead?

[Josh Maurer]

I would have. But, yeah. Baseball was the first love and it was always the ultimate goal. I grew up in Philadelphia and I listened to Harry Callis and Richie Ashburn called the Phillies games. And it was magical for me. I. And I know this sounds cliche, but I did. I lay in bed at night starting probably when I was 11 or 12 years old, and I would go to sleep listening to their voices and as the soundtrack of my youth. And that's what formulated my love of sports, was listening to that. And I knew at a pretty early age that I wasn't going to be good enough to be an athlete professionally or do anything that actually had to do with playing the games. So it sounded like a great job. Listen to those guys. It was. It was just such a joy. So I was one of those rare people that a young age kind of knew what he wanted to do. And that's what was my North Star for my career, was trying to get to that point to be in a booth to do what Harry Callis did. And Richie Ashburn.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Look, there's not a sports writer alive that, you know, didn't become a sports writer because his athletic career ended and he wanted to stay in sports. That's he or she that your athletic career ends and you stay in it, you become a sports writer. I can understand that completely with announcing. I can understand that absolutely. So now, when you're in, how many innings do you do? Do you do like the whole game or do you have somebody you with and you split innings like they do with the national games?

[Josh Maurer]

Yes, yes, we do. We split it up. We have the Bob Euchre setup still in the Milwaukee brewers radio booth, which is there's two play by play guys and you rotate. One is always calling play by play and the other is there essentially as a color analyst, but more as just a support. You know, neither of us, there's three of us that work on brewers radio now, Jeff Levering, Lane Grindel are the other two, and none of us are former professional athletes or coaches. So we. This was set up 55 years ago, just about by Bob Uecker. The way that the brewers booth operates is very conversational. You're not doing a lot of analysis. We try to bring humor to it the best we can in homage to Bob, although nobody can be Bob. And we are, we're trying to just have a fun three hour broadcast every night that people are going to enjoy listening to. So, yeah, it's a, it's a rotation. I'm. And I'm the low man on the totem pole, so I call the fewest innings when I'm on and I'll do the pregame or the post game show and try to bring as much energy and excitement to it as I can.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, I remember when you talked about Euchre and having dinner with Euchre all the time the last time you were on. I, I like that. I thought about you yesterday. I knew you were going to be on. I thought about you yesterday when we were doing the PTI show and there was, I don't know, maybe on the ESPN website or something like that. They talked about the Milwaukee pitcher, Brandon Woodruff and how he was having difficulty even getting to like 90 miles an hour on the fastball. And now is he on the, is he on the injured reserve at the moment? Is it, is there an analysis of what happened?

[Josh Maurer]

It's very strange. They don't know yet. So Brandon Woodruff, who received the largest single season contract for a pitcher in Milwaukee brewers history this year, he's been with the team longer than anybody else. He's kind of the emotional leader inside their clubhouse for A team that's got so many young players. He's the veteran presence. Yeah. In yesterday's start, his fastball averaged 85 miles an hour for the inning and a half that he was out there and they knew something was wrong. But as it turns out, he didn't feel injured. He just said he had nothing in the tank, nothing was coming out. So they're. They're running tests. They did an MRI even as the game was going on yesterday. And I assume we will find out more from the brewers either this afternoon or this weekend. But it seems like a pretty good bet that he's gonna miss some, if not significant time.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You know that broadcasting the Cheeseheads means that Wilbon hates you. You understand that now?

[Josh Maurer]

I hate you, right?

[Tony Kornheiser]

He hates you. He hates the Cardinals. Yeah, he hates the Cardinals and he hates the Brewers. I don't think he hates the Reds nearly as much, but he does hate the Brewers. You should call him about that. Say, give me a break, Wilbon. You should do that. So you play how many games against the Nats? Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

[Josh Maurer]

Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Yep. Friday night, Saturday. Late afternoon, Sunday afternoon, and then a flight to St. Louis. You realize weekend in Washington.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You realize that the Gnats are managed by somebody much younger than you at this point? No, Butera, he's 33 years old and he looks 23 years old. Do you know him at all? Do you know him?

[Josh Maurer]

I don't. I should because my off season job still involves me broadcasting Boston College basketball.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And he's in New England. Yeah.

[Josh Maurer]

He is a Boston College alum. Yeah. And a cult hero back in. In Chestnut Hill, Massachusetts.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Whoa, whoa, wait a second. Are you going to do that again this year? Are you going to do BC basketball this year?

[Josh Maurer]

I. Yeah, I think so. We're working on that. We've kind of been a year to year thing.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, so the new coach is Bill Murray's son. It's Luke Murray. You could get Bill Murray with you to do the games. You could do that, right?

[Josh Maurer]

I hope so. This is another kind of crazy coincidence. I worked for Bill Murray.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What?

[Josh Maurer]

Believe it or not, yes. The first affiliated minor league baseball team that employed me as a broadcaster was the Charleston River Dogs. 2005 through 2008. Bill Murray was one of the owners of the Riverdogs.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Really?

[Josh Maurer]

And was a present owner. Yeah. He lives in Charleston and would come to the games. And so I worked for Bill Murray. Literally. I have not met Luke yet. I'm excited to. And tell him that your dad was my boss.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, he'll he'll definitely go in the booth. He's not shy. I've told you this, the Bill Murray stuff, what Bill Murray likes to do when he's in a city, whatever city he's in, he goes to a big time restaurant and just sits down with a couple and they always say, sure, this is Bill Murray. And he chats with them and has dinner with them and he pays for it. He has done this for years. For years he's done this. I watched him do it in the Palm a few years ago. And he's. Well, you know him, so you obviously know that he's very social. That would be great if you do that. BC did. Have they won any games in the last five years? They don't win at all, do they?

[Josh Maurer]

No, they don't win. They don't win. And it's. It's been almost two decades since they've been relevant in basketball. Yeah, they. They made a change. And they have made an affirmation to Luke Murray and to his staff that they will fully fund the program and that they mean business to try to be competitive in the acc. You know, it's one of those, I think maybe casualties of conference realignments, and there are so many of them. I somewhat feel the same way about my alma mater at Maryland. It's. They're in a conference.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Shouldn't be there.

[Josh Maurer]

That doesn't make sense.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No.

[Josh Maurer]

Yeah. And it's been a misfits.

[Tony Kornheiser]

People want to see Maryland basketball against Duke in North Carolina. They don't want to see Maryland football against Iowa and Minnesota. They don't. They don't. It makes no sense. You're an alum. You get it. They don't.

[Josh Maurer]

I get it. I get it. That's right.

[Andy Beyer]

Yeah.

[Josh Maurer]

Who wants to watch Maryland versus Oregon? Right. And that's, you know, in the world of college athletics these days. I know we're on a tangent. That's what big time conference college sports has turned into.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's a great joy to have you and to talk to you. Have fun this weekend. Have fun doing the Naps games. The most I'll ask for is parking. If I go to a game, I'll just ask for parking.

[Josh Maurer]

You let me know and we'll get you parking. And the most I'll ask for is a visit to the press box.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Thank you, Josh.

[Josh Maurer]

Okay, Tony, great talking to you.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Josh Maurer, boys and girls, our original intern at PTI and now broadcasting Milwaukee brewers games. That's just fabulous.

[Michael Wilbon]

I have an extra ticket for Saturday's game.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Maybe I'll go. Maybe I'll. Is that a day game or night game?

[Michael Wilbon]

Yeah, four or five, but it's a bobblehead game.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What does that mean?

[Michael Wilbon]

It tends to get crowded.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's okay. That's all right. I might go. Yeah, I mean, I'm going. Parking. Maybe we could go. All right. We'll come back with email and jingle. I'm Tony Kornheiser.

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[Chan]

It's so great.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So fabulous. You want to do the Bethesda Bagel?

[Chan]

Yes, Bethesda Bagels.

[Tony Kornheiser]

We love them.

[Chan]

You will as well. Just go to bethesdabagles.com for the location in the DC area nearest you. Then pop on in and you'll be thrilled. And I have an update to an announcement we made the other day. Unfortunately, we have to announce that the Saturday Herndon Regional Wind Ensemble comes to Sycophant. Yeah. From see the sycamore has been canceled due to unforeseen scheduling conflict.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So sorry about that. Before we get to the mailbag, let me just say, in 1814, we took a little trip along with Colonel Jackson down in mighty Mississippi. We took a little bacon, we took a little beans. We caught the bloody British in the town of New Orleans. That's Johnny Horton. I could go on. Fired our guns and the British kept coming. Weren't nice. Many as they were a while ago fired once more and they begin to run and down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico. Could have also done. You said we could take them by surprise if we didn't fire muskets till we look. I can't do. I can't do this.

[Chan]

Could also done Wawa Tuzi by the Orlas.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I can do that. That's all I can do. I don't remember anything else in my life.

[Andy Beyer]

But you remember that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Remember that. Perfectly unburdened by other memories. Thanks to our guests today, Andy Beyer and Josh Maurer. Thanks as well to today's sponsors. Remember, you can listen to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Odyssey if you get the show through Apple Podcasts. Please leave us a review from Steve Tabor in Fort Smith, Arkansas. If your Columbia pros get into the PGA Championship, could you please ask them how much of the prize money is in shop credit? Thanks. This gives me the opening to say that sadly, Steve Delmar and Alex Hoffman did not make it. There are 20 PGA club pros who made the field at Arundam Inc. In a couple of weeks. Ours did not, but we are very proud of them. Shouted out to them last night at PTI Del Mar.

[Michael Wilbon]

Made a big move on the final day.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, he. I think he was minus three. Minus three on the final day, you know. Yeah. Missed out on a playoff by playoff. Missed out on a playoff by one shot. Brandon Borzelli in Lebanon, New Jersey. Regarding the Lilly Hammer jacket. That's actually the West Virginia outlets jacket

[Michael Wilbon]

in the style of.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Now that one of the longest running jokes on the show has been lifted for the masses, it's probably about time to reveal another. It's time to come clean about Nigel. That fake accent isn't getting past anyone. The longtime. Listen, listeners know the truth. He's not from London. He's from Wales.

[Chan]

That's a lie.

[Tony Kornheiser]

From Daniel McNicholas in Chicago, Illinois, formerly West Grove, Pennsylvania. I know you don't watch Survivor and never will, but I felt compelled to share an update with you. Rick Devins will go down as a legend in Survivor history thanks to the flip of a coin during this week's episode. Keep it up, Devins. We're rooting for you. So I guess he's still there because of a coin flip.

[Chan]

Something like that. This is from Survivor.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Update from Rick Devins. I know you don't watch Survive. No, I don't. I watch the Gnats. That's all I watch. But I'm sure you're a big time Mr. Beast enthusiast, right? No. Oh, okay. Well, in that case, just trust that I made a big splash on the show last night and I'm safe for another week. Thanks for the support of you and my fellow Littles. They gotta be coming close to the end, aren't they?

[Chan]

I would think.

[Tony Kornheiser]

How many shows left do they have? From Josh Cromwell in Moselle, Mississippi. Since it seems like the Lillehammer jacket has been plummeting down the power rankings as of late, does this mean the glory days of home of the Tony Kornheiser Porterhouse jacket now takes the top spot as the most noteworthy jacket affiliated with the show? I don't understand this.

[Michael Wilbon]

It's the Listen up jacket. Now, I never all of our hopes

[Tony Kornheiser]

that the Lillehammer jacket was bought in Lillehammer. I never said that.

[Chan]

There was a perception that. Yeah, because it was the Lillo

[Tony Kornheiser]

for. There it is, the Lillehammer jacket. More Peter Potke. You know, bad things always come in threes. First you're eating schmutzy ice cream. Then we get Lilly Hammer jacket gate. What's next? We catch wind that you reliably splash out of bunkers, the ball abruptly checking to a stop on the second bounce for a tap in. While your dejected opponents mutters, oof. What a shot. Justin Winkleman in Titusville, Florida. Greetings, Captain Ron is a person who openly and regularly admits they are unburdened by memory. How can you be so sure the Lillehammer jacket wasn't purchased in Scandinavia? Next you'll tell us that you never played bass for Norwegian Soft Kittens somewhere near Lillehammer. Did you ever stop to think that they recruited you because of that jacket? From Jim Cudahay in Locust Grove, Virginia. I need a ruling on whether this qualifies as a David Aldrich moment. A listener referenced the Shroud of Turin in Monday's mailbag. I said to myself, I know that shroud. That's because I am in Turin in the midst of a vacation to the Piedmont region of Italy. The Piedmont region of Italy? Like the Piedmont region of Virginia? Wow. Now the question can be asked, and indeed has been asked, by the woman to whom I'm related by marriage. You're in Italy surrounded by beauty and vineyards of Nebbiolo, producing some of the finest wines in the world, and you're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. I thus tried to explain to her the need to stay current with the latest in the controversy over the Lillehammer jacket. She rolled her eyes at return to our aperol spritz. What can I say I'm glad you were listening Cindy. This is Cindy Wynn. I'm a longtime little first time to email the connective tissue of your podcast and very is very interesting. I reached out to Tom Masser last summer to see if I could have him place our dog Daisy in a print with Lucas in Dog at the Museum. After many months of photos and him working tirelessly on this project, I have finally received my print. He and his wife have been awesome to say the least. On this project I am over the moon. I was also gifted and privileged to receive a print of Tony Flush the mouse. He's an amazing individual and I must thank my neighbor Corey for turning me onto your podcast years ago. And a big shout out to my framer Daniel at Hobby Lobby for his hard work too. Does this meet a David Aldrich moment? Cindy's very thrilled. Oh, it's a beautiful print, isn't that? Tom Masser has made prints of Chessy and also has one of the best jingles we've ever had and the one with Dan Byrne Wilder.

[Chan]

Yeah, we'll play that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh, here's a haiku for the Kentucky Derby from she had Buster on farming, Kirkjin on avocados, and Buyer on speed. Yeah, that's list Brian Kelly in Everett, Washington. Not that Brian Kelly. A few months ago I looked on my counter to discover some red potatoes I had purchased from Safeway and forgotten to cook, had sprouted eyes. Normally I would just clean these off and prepare them as normal, but instead, armed only with information from your show, I tried my hand at being a small time potato farmer. I ordered some grow bags from Amazon, cut up my potatoes to scab and after the bags arrived, bought some soil. That's what we need to do. We need to call Amazon. We need to do that a few weeks later. I now have little green sprouts beginning to pop up in each of the photos attached. I can't believe how excited I am to see what happens in the fall. If you haven't tried the grow bags, I highly recommend them. They're very easy to set up and you can drop them anywhere. We're planting carrots in the other two as they arrived in a set of four. I want to. Yeah, there are pictures. I want to to call Amazon. I don't know how to do that. Carol's a member of Amazon.

[Chan]

I don't think there's a phone number for them.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What do you do?

[Chan]

Everything is online with them.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. And I want to get these grow back.

[Michael Wilbon]

Probably password protective.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What I want to do is This. I want to spend 500 to $600 growing potatoes that are worth $3.

[Michael Wilbon]

Nice.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I want to do that. I want to take that kind of loss and I want to try to write it off. I want to try to write that off. You know, trying. It's food for thought and food for the show. From John Rognis in Oronico, Minnesota. He buried. Oh, on Chuck Todd. He buried the lead. What was the entree? Oh, he didn't told us what it was. Another one on Chuck Todd from Jason Edwards. Jason in Phoenix. I don't want to minimize what happened at the White House correspondents dinner. I understand how serious it is, but someone recognized Chuck Todd and didn't give him a hearty lecheserie.

[Josh Maurer]

Come on, man.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What are we doing? And from Jeff Hyson, Chuck and Roxy, number six. Well, top ten, Silver Spring, Maryland. If a horse is named lecheserie, will it buy horseshoes at the bass outlet?

[Andy Beyer]

That's funny.

[Tony Kornheiser]

If you're out on your bike tonight, everyone, as always, do wear white. Feels so good to be back here at the Desta Lake Club. We'd like to do for you now a tune entitled Shamalama Ding dong. So hit it,

[Musical Performer]

Sa. Do it all again oh, baby don't you tell me maybe sorry that I. Know what didn't know back then or we could have, should have, would have

[Tony Kornheiser]

been

[Musical Performer]

I don't know. You could never complain me I know I was wrong Can I make it right Now I know we didn't know back then what we could have, should have, would have been I know what I'm gonna do. Oh, now I know we didn't know back then what we coulda sure would have been oh, I know why I'm gonna do. Back from the start when you held my heart oh, girl would you do it again? Would you walk through the door? Would you come back for more? Oh, girl would you do it again?

[Josh Maurer]

I won't.

[Musical Performer]

If my words can be unset I would if my thoughts could be unrest I would Even if the worst is yet to come I would. If we listen to learn the word Watching you burn oh, girl Learning again and after the show running away do we go oh, girl but it never ends I won if I was gonna be a. I. Do it again Would you walk to the door? Would you come back from home? Oh, God, Would you do it again? I would if my words could be I said I would if my thoughts could be over when I would. You're the one sa.