“Eating Pudding”

Summary

The Tony Kornheiser Show – “Eating Pudding”

Date: April 23, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of "The Tony Kornheiser Show" blends Tony's signature mix of sports commentary with lively banter, personal anecdotes, and expert insights from regular guests. The main topics include the upcoming NFL draft and its quarterback scarcity, the quirks and frustrations of modern sports streaming, analysis of current MLB and NBA action, and a quintessential Tony digression into his dog's digestive issues. Jason La Canfora and John Ourand join in for expert opinions and comedic interplay. As always, the show features witty asides, nostalgic moments, and listener engagement that keep the tone casual, entertaining, and distinctively "Tony."

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Key Segments & Insights

1. Sports Roundup & Playoff Commentary

[01:46–09:24]

• NBA Playoffs & Seeding Philosophy
  • Tony critiques the NBA’s extended playoff format: “Wilbon and I differ so much on the NBA. First of all, he loves it beyond comprehension and I think it's okay.” [01:54]
  • He pushes back on the value of a "good series," dismissing non-title runs: “You keep score to find out who wins…In Mike's world, if it's a good series, you get points.” [02:09]
• Baseball & Hockey Updates
  • Tony details recent scores and upsets in MLB and NHL, focusing on the emotional rollercoaster of being a Mets or Phillies fan.
  • Notable moment: “At least you haven't heard any Mets players saying the fans are treating us unfairly. Haven't said that. They have not said that. And the manager's still the manager, which surprises me.” [07:11]
• Shohei Ohtani's Stat Line
  • Ohtani’s pitching and batting streaks get a humorous Tony analysis: “Maybe he shouldn't bat.” [06:09]
• Dog Story Interlude
  • Tony provides an authentic break from sports: “Here’s the news of the day. My dog is sick. Jesse…has diarrhea.” [09:24]
  • Banter ensues about dog diets and the pet’s “status in the draft.”

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2. NFL Draft Deep Dive with Jason La Canfora

[13:00–27:53]

• Quarterback Scarcity (Fernando Mendoza Hype)

  • Jason La Canfora: “There's one quarterback who's worthy of a true first-round grade...But...he's not Joe Burrow, he's not Trevor Lawrence, he's not Andrew Luck.” [14:02]
  • Tony and Jason discuss why only one QB is projected highly—an outcome shaped by COVID eligibility, NIL influence, and cyclical draft depth.

• NIL & Changing Draft Profiles

  • Jason: “In college, if you have one good year, you're always backing yourself and you could flip that one good year into a bigger program and even more money.” [19:28]
  • Draft’s average age has ticked upward, with some top prospects entering the league at 25.

• Offensive Line Glut

  • Jason predicts a historic run on offensive linemen: “There could be 10 offensive linemen in the first round. Like, I think one of every three picks could be.” [21:48]
  • Vegas set O-line draft “over/under” too low, reflecting a consensus among insiders that this year’s draft lacks blue chip skill players.

• Front Office Draft Success

  • Praises Seahawks GM John Schneider and the Rams’ team-building with middle round value: “I think John Schneider is pretty special...I love what the Rams do.” [23:09]

• Aaron Rodgers Speculation

  • Tony needles Jason about his now-infamous Rodgers skepticism.
    • Tony: “Do you expect him to make his presence known tonight?” [25:05]
    • Jason: “...the house lights go down…then it’s Aaron Rodgers’ music and Aaron Rodgers is running out...” [25:16]
    • Jason predicts official news about Rodgers’ return will come “within a week or so after the draft.” [26:18]

• Jason’s Plugs

  • Highlights his work at Warner Bet, The Daily Flock, and SI digital content: “Look, if you’re interested in Baltimore sports at all…check me out.” [26:30]

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3. Navigating the Streaming Era of Sports TV with John Ourand

[28:34–41:18]

• Streaming Frustrations for Sports Fans

  • Tony expresses old-school channel-surfing woes: “It takes literally five to 10 minutes to get on...so that I'm watching the game on a streaming service...I just throw the clicker in the air and go to bed.” [30:29]
  • John Ourand lays out the TV business logic:
    • International streaming reach is the new imperative: “If [the NFL] sell a package to Netflix, it's…seen worldwide.”
    • Classic TV laws requiring events to be available to all are being outpaced by global rights trends.

• YouTube TV and Alternatives

  • John touts YouTube TV: “You don't need a Peacock subscription…all of that sports programming on YouTube TV.” [32:45]
  • Tony laments the lack of Nats games: “Can you get NATS games?” [33:38]

• Tech Pains: Freezing Streams and Delays

  • Tony: “They freeze. Not for 10 seconds, for minutes at a time. How can...” [34:05]
  • John notes streaming ratings stay strong despite these issues, which means leagues aren’t incentivized to fix them.

• Regulatory and Demographic Shifts

  • Congress is investigating the NFL’s antitrust-exempt “broadcast-only” ideal as sports migrate to paid or subscription-based access.
  • The kids are all right (and have big TV setups)—leaving Tony’s generation behind: “My fear…it’s another example of where I am left behind and I have to sit in a corner and eat pudding because I can’t…watch sports.” [36:50]
  • John: “I think what you’re seeing...is the ebb and flow between streaming, cable, and broadcast, but you need a lot of subscriptions if you want to keep up.” [37:17]

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4. Listener Mailbag & Miscellaneous Banter

[41:48–End (~56:23)]

• Names and Nicknames
  • Tony and co-hosts riff on the proliferation of Steves, Marks, Tims, Blakes, and Jonathans, with letters from listeners vying for “official” status as the show’s Mark, Tim, Brett, Trey, and so on.
  • E.g., “It once took us five Johns to move my wife’s ficus tree.” [47:01]
• Golf Oddities
  • Lighthearted discussion of club brand loyalty, pro habits, and “accidental” hole-in-ones.
• Global Listener Engagement
  • Listeners from Ireland, Japan, and across the U.S. check in.
  • Tokyo Tim shares, “I cannot say how much it means...to maintain a cultural sports connection through PTI and your always entertaining podcast.” [53:26]
• Tony’s Tribute
  • Farewell to Dave Mason, referencing “Feelin’ Alright”: “That’s in honor of Dave Mason who passed away yesterday two days ago.” [42:08]

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• Tony on NBA Playoffs:
  • “You keep score to find out who wins...In Mike's world, if it’s a good series, you get points.” [02:09]
• On Streaming Frustrations:
  • “It’s like you’re leaving one state and going through customs to get to another state...You lose your desire.” [40:20]
• Jason La Canfora, on the QB market:
  • “There’s one quarterback who’s worthy of a true first round grade...But no one was really...throwing three ones at Mike Brown for Burrow.” [14:02]
• Tony’s Generation Gap Fear:
  • “It's another example of where I am left behind and I have to sit in a corner and eat pudding because I can't, I can't watch sports.” [36:50]
• John Ourand, on tech adaptation:
  • “We spent 40, 50 years professionalizing channel surfing, and now, like, we have to buy five TVs in order to see the games that are on.” [30:44]
• Mailbag Classic:
  • “I graduated high school with five, yes, five Blakes in a class of just 36 students.” [47:55]

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Segment Timestamps

• Sports catch-up, NBA/NHL/MLB: [01:46–09:24]
• Tony’s dog & life updates: [09:24–11:34]
• NFL Draft/Lacanfora interview: [13:00–27:53]
• Streaming/TV industry with Ourand: [28:34–41:18]
• Listener mailbag, names & stories: [41:48–End]

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Conclusion & Tone

This episode is classic Tony Kornheiser: bitingly funny, gently curmudgeonly, full of cultural observation, and anchored by sharp, well-connected guests. The tone is chatty, self-deprecating, and playful—even when tackling the often frustrating realities of modern sports consumption.

Listeners are left with:

• Smart draft insight and skepticism about “quarterback classes”
• Practical (and exasperated) advice for streaming sports in 2026
• A celebration of community—both global and hyperlocal—built around this quirky show
• Enough laughs and observations to feel, as always, like part of Tony’s extended radio family

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Quick Reference: Key Quotes

• "In Mike’s world, if it’s a good series, you get points." – Tony Kornheiser [02:09]
• "There could be 10 offensive linemen in the first round..." – Jason La Canfora [21:48]
• "It's like you're leaving one state and going through customs to get to another...you just lose it." – Tony [40:20]
• "We have to buy five TVs in order to see the games that are on..." – John Ourand [30:44]
• "I can't...watch sports. Don't care about us anymore. When did this change?" – Tony [36:50]

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Show Producer/Announcer]

Previously on the Tony Korniser Show. But I do think that ultimately most

[Jason Locke]

people believe Rogers will end up back there.

[Musician/Singer]

When?

[Jason Locke]

Who knows? Maybe he'll do some triumphant thing on Thursday night or Friday night about at the draft. That theory's out.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Maybe he'll take a helicopter right into the middle of it or dive out of a building. Yeah, I mean, never know.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

The Tony Kornheiser show is on now.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Can't get enough Aaron Rodgers. Jason Lock and Fora will be on later. We're going to ask him about Aaron Rodgers, who he hates.

[Co-host/Contributor]

He does.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He hates Aaron Rodgers. So that's. That should be fun. The draft starts tonight. We are off PTI tonight and tomorrow. Which spares me having to talk about the NBA playoffs at ad nauseam. Wilbon and I differ so much on the NBA. First of all, he loves it beyond comprehension and I think it's okay.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Wants a nine game series.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. I think the conference finals and the finals Finals are okay.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

But I don't think they should all be four out of seven. And Wilbon has this thing where he wants everything to be a good series. He'll say, well, that'll be a good series. They can take two or three And I go, so what are they going to win? And he goes, well, they're going to take two or three. I said, but they're not going to win. You keep score to find out who wins. It's who advances. Because they win four games. I don't care how many games it takes them to win their four. I don't. I don't think you get points for that. And in Mike's world, you do. Yeah, in Mike's world, if it's a good series, you get points and you're able to say at the beginning of the game, inside the game, yeah, it's. It's fascinating possibilities. And then you're able to say, next year in October, before the season starts, who might go to the playoffs and how well might they do? Because nobody cares about the regular season. Nobody cares. The evidence of this. The Washington Wizards. Yeah, nobody cares. Just, you know, if you can get to the playoffs, fine, you're in the tournament and then you see what you can do. But this is all. This is not the same in baseball. It's not the same in football. Every day in baseball and football is not spent worrying about the postseason. It's not. You care about what happens during the regular season, the NBA, Nobody cares.

[Co-host/Contributor]

No.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Just what's going to happen in the playoffs. So in the playoffs last night, the Detroit Pistons beat the Orlando Magic, avenging an upset in the first game in Detroit, they beat him 98, 83. It was tied at the half, so they beat him by 15 in the second half. That's a message. We beat you by 15 in the second half. You thought you were good. You stink. So we'll see what happens there. And the Thunder beat the Suns 120 to 107 to take a 20 lead in that series. Because Thunder's better. Yeah, they're the defending champions. And the Suns were a play in team. And the Suns are now complaining about officiating. And officiating didn't do that to them. Didn't lose because of officiating. They lost because the other team's better. The other team's at the moment, the best team in the league. Best team in the league in hockey. Philadelphia is beating Pittsburgh. This was five to two. This is three nothing in the series. Philadelphia won the first two in Pittsburgh and the third last. That's over. It feels that one's over.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Although hockey is the one sport where teams come back from 30 now, it doesn't feel. No, it feels like it's over.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So, yeah, because they're winning the games by a lot.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Phillies fans happy for the distraction?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes, because the Phillies stink. We'll get to that in a second. Dallas beat Minnesota in two overtimes and the Ducks beat the Oilers 6 to 4.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Quack, quack, quack. Mr. Ducksworth.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. To, you know, to tie that series. Edmonton just doesn't. Edmonton doesn't do well. When you think they're going to do well. Then they get to the finals. They've gotten to the finals two years in a row.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Is dry.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Seattle out for them? Dry. Saddle is back.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Oh, he's back now.

[Tony Kornheiser]

They won a game the other day. Connor McDavid had no points during the course of the year. I remember the statistic from the PTI show when Connor McDavid had no points at all. They were 0, 12 and 2. And then they won. So you think, okay, they've got momentum now. They lose six, six to four. You've given up six goals. Maybe one was an empty net goal, but still that you're still giving up five. Yeah. So. Hey Ohtani, last night I feel like I'm doing a sportscast.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Last night when six innings against the Giants gave up five hits, no runs, no walks, and struck out seven and he did not lose. Dodgers lost three, nothing. But they were not his runs. He also did not get on base for the first time in like 80 games.

[Jason Locke]

53.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, whatever it was just reminds me going back to August 24, the last time he pitched. The last time he pitched, he did not bat. This time he batted. He didn't. And you said he went over four, right?

[Co-host/Contributor]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So maybe he shouldn't bet.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Probably should trade him now, right?

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, shouldn't trade him.

[Co-host/Contributor]

I always just love when he jumps off the mountain immediately. Has to start, you know, getting the armor on for zap bat. Just always ready.

[Jason Locke]

Just great.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He's great.

[Co-host/Contributor]

He really is.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Mets win. Mets break a 12 game losing streak. Mets win at home 3 to 2. You think the Mets have dropped out of the division race? No, they're tied with the Phillies. They're both 8 and 16 at the moment. Phillies lost last night.

[Co-host/Contributor]

They did.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's eight in a row for them, you know, and the Phillies are the best team in that division and the Mets are the second best team. You would think. But now the Braves are way ahead. The Nats are ahead of the Phillies and the Mets hard hitting Nets. Nats scored a bunch of runs last night. Scored enough to win.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Just to rewind back to the Mets. Did you see what they did in the eighth inning? It was bases Loaded again. They actually got out of it against them. Top.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Was Devin Williams in there pitching? Okay. That would have been a mistake seeing. Getting anybody out the other night.

[Co-host/Contributor]

I just love the production work where they just start panning out to the crowd to just see their reactions as the count, you know, gets too. Strikes early, and then it's a foul, foul, foul.

[Tony Kornheiser]

At least you haven't heard any Mets players saying the fans are treating us unfairly. Haven't said that. They have not said that. And the manager's still the manager, which surprises me.

[Co-host/Contributor]

April, baseball.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's just. I know in 138 games to go, so they're not out of anything, especially with the Phillies in the same misery that they're in. Nats lose. Nats get six runs. Nats get three home runs and lose the game because. Not because of their reliefing this time.

[Jason Locke]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor]

The bullpen actually did well.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

Right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Zach Little and. Did Little when he came in. Zach Little gave up, I believe, eight runs the last time he was in. Started him again and let him give up 8. This manager must hate this guy. Must hate him because his. His era. What is his era? It's got to be over 15.

[Co-host/Contributor]

It's only seven, five, six.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Really? Yeah. The last two games, he's given up eight each.

[Co-host/Contributor]

It must be very efficient, otherwise.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, he must be. So I. The manager.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Were you watching the at bat against Olson? So I'm listening on the radio. Coming back from sports, I've got when

[Tony Kornheiser]

Olson hit it out.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Yeah. Bootstra's listening to Ninjago as we're coming back from baseball practice. I've got the soft sounds of Charlie and Dave and like, Olson is 0 for 9 since Game 1 when he hit the home run. There's two walks, right? I think it was two walks, right? Two walks immediately he hits it out.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So I wrote a note to Chris and to Chuck and to you, because you're on the text chain as well, saying, you know, if he didn't walk the first two batters of the inning, that's a solo home run. Doesn't kill you. But he. He also had two strikes on both those guys ahead of three balls on both those guys and ended up. And the pitches were not close. It was not like you could challenge. The pitches weren't close. So he puts himself in jeopardy. And then Olson ends it. Olson's numbers are probably almost better now.

[Co-host/Contributor]

I think they're better than Freeman's.

[Jason Locke]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And Freeman's going to the hall of Fame. And Freeman is. Is the Met. The. The Nats Killer killed Nats killer of all time. And Freeman's great. He's great.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right. And no one. I'm not taking anything away from him, but Matt Olson's really just amazing how.

[Co-host/Contributor]

How that whole deal ended up with Freeman going to the Dodgers and the numbers age, everything made sense.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. And he won. He's 12 in a row, and he's a big part of it.

[Co-host/Contributor]

And the grand slam against the.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's right.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Yeah, that's right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

She's a big part of it.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, here's the news of the day. My dog is sick. Jesse. The dog is ill. Jesse has diarrhea. Jesse had diarrhea about a month ago. Then it got better. We gave her certain medications from the vet, Dr. Pearl. And it got better. Then she got diarrhea about a week ago. And I didn't bother to call the vet because I thought maybe it would get better. And indeed, it got better. It didn't get good, but it was getting better. And then it went the other way Yesterday. Went the other way yesterday. One of the things she did was she whined to Nigel. Yeah. You got her out in the backyard, she had diarrhea. Then on her walk, her late afternoon walk, she had it three different times. She woke me up three times in the middle of the night at 12, at 2, and at 5, three different times to go out and had it again. It's all liquid. So I gotta call the vet today. I have to call the vet, who is, you know, who makes house calls. Yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor]

When did this first start happening? Cause it was when the streets were still covered with snow. So there was some thought that the dog was unear.

[Jason Locke]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Unearthing bones or.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor]

I don't know.

Pinpoint. I mean, I. I feed her better. Is the curry that I give her

[Tony Kornheiser]

every day is that she still treats rice and chicken. And now we. We mixed in some dog food the last two days, and maybe that was a mistake. I don't. I don't know. I'm not the vet. I don't know. But I'm hoping the vet will come over. And I'm hope. I mean, her temperament is fine.

[Co-host/Contributor]

She seems right after.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Other than that. Yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor]

She's like, I'm ready to go. Let's play.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes. So I, you know, Finn was here this morning, and. And Jesse wanted to play with Finn. You know, Finn's.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Yeah, she has. She has her energy.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes. So it doesn't appear to be terribly debilitating, but it's. I'm. I can't talk to her. I don't understand what she's feeling. I feel terrible about this, and I'm losing sleep.

[Co-host/Contributor]

She's not sneaking snacks when you're going to bed, right?

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, I don't think so. The refrigerator.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Prosciutto, maybe, you know.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, I don't know what she's doing now.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Is this going to impact her status in the draft? Do you think she'll slide for this?

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, they'll fix her up and she'll be the best safety in the league. She'll be the best safety. So that's. That's the open. That's all I've got. We'll come back with Jason Locke and fora. I'm Tony Kornheiser.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Musician/Singer]

Well, the universe is eating us alive and we'll probably all die But I hope that you and I survive well, the universe is eating us alive and we'll probably all die.

[Tony Kornheiser]

This is a really optimistic song. It's called the universe is hungry. This is sent to us by Todd Hart, who says it is Todd Hart. Yes, that Todd Hart from Kohler, Wisconsin, where the guy that brought you post sex Nachos was at a house party where Damn Tall Buildings were playing. And they are good. They were in between gigs between Madison, Wisconsin and Minneapolis, Minnesota and my friend hired them to play it as home for about 40 friends. I reached out to see if they wanted me to submit a couple of songs for your show and they agreed. Permission below. They're a trio of musicians that were all trained at the Berklee College of Music. They're currently in Brooklyn. They played all over the world. This song is the Universe is Hungry. It's very nice. It is Damn Tall Buildings is a great name. They play in Jason Locke and Fora. And of course we will talk about Wannabe. We will talk about that eventually. But let us start with because we gotta talk about the draft. That's. The draft is upon us. ESPN has a countdown clock. They've had it for two days. Everyone has Fernando Mendoza going number one. Do you have him? Do you have him going number one? And what is, you know, what is the scouting report on him?

[Jason Locke]

Well, look, I think you have to look at all these evaluations through the prism of the evaluator. So what is the marketplace for quarterbacks? Well, there's him and there's everybody else. And if you know you want to get up caught up in the Ty Simpson thing, you can. But there's one quarterback who's worthy of a true first round great. And even that quarterback, Mendoza. It's really a one year window that you're sort of evaluating him doing these things at this level. But you can't discount what he helped Indiana do. Oh yeah, you can't discount that. He's clearly wired for this and the personality might be a little different and whatever but like he's all ball. He produced, he shocked the world. And you've got a teams clustered at the top of the draft that need quarterbacks. And you had a free agent class that was bizarre with recent bust going for pennies on the dollar. Right to her for the vet minimum. Kyler for the vet minimum. Not everybody got what they wanted. And so there's like yeah, he's the quarterback. And the team at one doesn't want to wait another year to take their quarterback. They want to come out of their tank now. And if you're going to take a quarterback, he's the only one that makes sense really in the entire first round. But obviously especially at first overall. So this has always been baked in the cake. But because while he's a first overall quarterback because of these scenarios, like he's not Joe Burrow he's not Trevor Lawrence, he's not Andrew Luck. So people were not going to fall all over themselves to give this team picking at one like, oh my God, what about this offer? What about that offer? And they keep coming back and just sort of get like it just he, yes. Really good quarterback prospect. No. You can't sit there and say he can't miss. You can't say he's generational. That's just not what what the film says and the body of work says. It says in this draft he's worth a shot at first overall for that team. Absolutely. But no one was really, you know what I mean? No. This wasn't going to be like people throwing three ones at Mike Brown for Burrow and him having to sit back and say, no, I want to keep Joe Montana. I could never live on myself if I traded Joe Montana because I think Joe Burrows. Joe Montana. You're not hearing those comps from Mendoza.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No. You don't have any other quarterbacks in the first round, right?

[Jason Locke]

I do not. My mock is up at sand side and I just have one now. Do the Cardinals like trade into the first round that mean they could get him? I mean they could, but it really for where they are as an organization and how much they are tanking and how they're willing to roll with Brissette and Minshew or whatever this year and they got a rookie head coach late and they've never had an offensive line and they don't really want to win this year. Why would you mortgage any potential draft capital to get a kid with high backup upside who you're. No matter what he does, unless he shocks the world like Mendoza did last year, he's a spare part a year from now. And you're hoping that you trade him for more than you. I mean you're hoping the fifth year option on him in the first round like helps you trade him. It still doesn't add up. Doesn't mean they won't do it. If they do it though, the people I trust in this industry will be laughing at them. But then again, the people I trust in this industry have been laughing at the Arizona Cardinals for most of the time the bid well have owned them.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So I understand. I wondered is there. I was trying to think because a couple of years ago there was so many quarterbacks picked in the first 12 picks and most of them, if not all of them have done very well actually. And then there's only this one this year. It seemed odd to me. I wondered if there was an explanation. I tried to make a case for the transfer portal doing this, but then, you know, my second reason, I couldn't come up with a second reason that it was the transfer portal. Is there any reason?

[Jason Locke]

Yeah, I mean, we're still in a weird window here where we're not that far removed from COVID and kids getting five, six years of eligibility in some cases maybe even more. So that's. And then you had Nil come in, in a wave on top of that. So, like, you know, I saw some quotes from, I think it was Riley Leonard with the, with the Colts saying, you know, if I'd stayed in school, I'd make more money than I'm making. You know what I mean? As the, as the second or third string back up here, like, you know, some of them stay in school for more money, like a Carson Beck and it doesn't work out for a minute and then in the end it kind of works out. And so I think we're still in kind of a weird position in that regard. And then I just think sometimes it's, you know, it's, it's just cyclical. But next year, even if Arch Manning doesn't do exactly what everybody hopes he does, whatever, just the way it's lined up, it'll be a very different top half of this draft. And you know, the trades will be for specific quarterbacks in all likelihood. And there's so many teams that right now are still in that tear it down phase of the tank before they get to the build it up. But next year, you know, those teams, Arizona, the Jets, you know, there'll be more. They're going to be angling for a quarterback.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I'm. The one thing I am certain of is that we are now getting slightly older players in the draft because of nil because you stay in college, because you can in most cases make more money in college than you ever will in the pros because you're not a pro. Right?

[Jason Locke]

Yeah. I mean, or you're, you know, you're taken in the fourth or fifth or sixth round and you know what you're going to make coming in slotted and even if you, you know, go crazy, you're kind of, you know, you're locked into that paradigm and there, there's like the performance sketch, like there's player performance schedules where you can make more than you're slated to. But in college, if you have one good year, you're always backing yourself and you could flip that one good year into a bigger program and even more money. And yeah, the whole thing has, has certainly shifted. I mean, there's a kid who will be taken somewhere in the first round tonight, probably later than his play would say because he's already 25 years old. I mean, Akeem Mazador just turned 25 years old earlier this month. And there's a lot of teams who are just like, for a kid who's going to play near the line of scrimmage, for me who's already 25, you know, and if I get him in the first round and I pick up that fifth year option arm, the dude's 30 years, you know, I mean, he's 30 and he's an old 30 because he wasn't just standing on the sidelines in college. This kid, this kid played. So he's a little bit beat up and he's older. And so how much do I value two contracts with him? Because he may just be a one. A one. That's right, guy.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, that's right. Is there a position that the draft is thick with that you paid attention to?

[Jason Locke]

I've been on offensive line forever and I'm just sitting back watching all the people who are the mock draft maven saying, oh yeah, yeah, more offensive lineman. I'm like, really? Okay, Because I've been writing about that at sportsboom and talking about that and telling people at warn event that over seven and a half offensive linemen is, is that that number? Vegas set that number way too low and now that that number for any kind of value doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, but it's not just offensive line, it's where and when they're going to go. And it's much higher than people were projecting. Like I think there's, you know, three or four offensive linemen who, if any of them went in the top 10, I wouldn't flinch at all. Because again, this is just based on the people I talk to, who I trust and who haven't steered me wrong before. And they're like, yeah, those mock drafts out there are ridiculous. Like Monroe Freelings, an NFL left tackle, like Kaden Proctor hasn't been fat for 15 months. They love him in Alabama. Like, you people have Kaden Proctor going in there. Wasn't me because I only do one month. But you know, I mean, Kaden Proctor, 25 or 27 is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Like, so I'm just going off that information like, no, you know, there's going to be. The blue chip players at the premium positions aren't that great. And the best defensive players are all coming off the board and the top five and there's a lot of teams are going to default to offensive line. So I think there could be 10 offensive linemen in the first round. Like I think one of every three picks could be. I think there's going to be a run 10, like five I think could go in the first 14 and then that second wave of you know, I'd say four to six, there's going to be another group of them who come in into the 20s because if it's all things being equal, you know, teams like the Chargers and the Eagles and the Texans and the Bears and the Steelers, like offensive line is very much in consideration for any of them. And I think there's going to be a sense that if we don't get in this, this second wave, it's going to be really picked apart by Friday.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's just 10, 20, 10 offensive line. That's a really big. Is there anyone, you've done this for a long time. Is there anyone out there that you think always drafts well? It's easy to say always drafts badly. We can see that. But is there anyone? And it doesn't have to be the same team. It could be the guy who goes from team to team where you say this guy knows what he's doing.

[Jason Locke]

Well, I mean there's certainly executives that you really respect. I mean look John Snyder, what he did to build that Seattle thing the first time and yeah, Pete Gerald had a lot of say in it and then there was a dip, you know and they built up a great roster so they could get a little cute and you know, chasing the value and they missed on some offensive and defensive linemen which I mean that's going to happen like this. This whole this process is, is tricky. But then he gets a young head coach and they kind of flip the script and it's a different sort of defense but still defensive minded head coach. And I just think you looked at what they do in their totality. It's okay, it's. I think John Schneider is pretty special. Like I think John Schneider is one of the best and I love what the Rams do and everyone's like haha, they don't care about the draft. Well the pitch they traded, they traded for known NFL commodities that have mostly worked out for them and the ones that kept they've crushed the middle round. I mean I think Sean McVay and Les need are some of the premier evaluators in the NFL for what they need the draft to be for them. And they're interesting because tonight's a very different draft for them because, you know, they're sitting on an abundance of picks and they're picking high than they ever do, and maybe that's a team that throws people a curveball. Me, like everybody else, has them taking a wide receiver there and probably the wide receiver from USC who is a perfect fit for what they do schematically. But, you know, do they sit there at 13 and say, well, maybe we can get into a different crop of players? And yeah, we're mortgaging some of our future, but they've done that in the past and it's worked out okay for them.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I promised at the beginning of the show that I would ask you about Aaron Rodgers because the draft is in Pittsburgh and then you hate Aaron Rodgers. It makes me so happy.

[Jason Locke]

I just. Yeah, I used to look, I used to be an Aaron Rodgers champion. I was a guy said, I think Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback in the league and people would look at me crazy. And then a couple years later, he's winning MVPs. But, yeah, I'm not a big fan anyway. He's worn me out, Tony. He's worn me out.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Do you expect him to make his presence known tonight?

[Jason Locke]

Like a. Like a WWF kind of thing? Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. With a belt.

[Jason Locke]

The house lights go down and then they change the music. Now it's Aaron Rodgers music and Aaron Rodgers is running out to the stage.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Fantastic.

[Jason Locke]

Saying, we don't care about this fifth round pick. I'm Aaron bleeping Rodgers and I'm back, baby.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Jason Locke]

I don't know if it'd be quite that dramatic, but, I mean, the Steelers don't know. No. Like, they don't know for sure. Like, they don't have full certainty here. Like, they're sort of. I think. I don't know that they can even call it a wink wink, because that might be couching it too strong. But, like, there's a semblance of a mutual understanding that, like, you're going to make this decision and you're going to make this decision around the draft and more than likely you're coming back, I suspect within a week or so after the draft, before they start their OTAs, that he'll probably say, I'm back. Yeah, I don't know that he's going to do it in person. You know, he might be on a mountain somewhere, and I don't think he's going to be around for a lot of their offseason. Stuff. Even though it's a new coach. Because it's a new coach who he played.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He played for me. Knows. I mean so.

[Jason Locke]

But yeah, I mean it would be funny if he did something during the chat.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I would like that.

[Jason Locke]

It make.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Make for a good show. Okay. Plug Wannabe. Plug Wannabe for us.

[Jason Locke]

Yeah, you can still check me and. But we've been out seven days a week on Warner bet. We've been very much involved in these NFL markets as well. And look, if you're interested in Baltimore sports at all a little bit, Orioles, Ravens, you could check me out for now, five days a week, but probably soon. More on the Daily Flock. If you go to YouTube.com backslash@big play Baltimore, I know that's a lot but if you just go to Google machine and put in big play in all caps, big pla y and then Baltimore, you will get all the content that I'm doing for them. I'm covering the Ravens for sports on si. I guess they call it the Orioles for on si. And I've got a daily digital show. Love great guests.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Do you eat? Do you do sleep or eat? Do you have time to sleep or eat?

[Jason Locke]

I don't eat as much as I used to, thank goodness. And I stopped eating the red meat a long while ago, which I never thought I'd be able to do. So, yes, I do. I do eat. It's a lot of fish and chicken. Okay. I sleep, I get, I get, I get plenty of sleep. You know, Tony, you got to be hustling. But no, I'm really excited about this project. You can subscribe for free. Get it all there. So Wannabe and the Daily Flock, which you can find at Big Plate Baltimore and on YouTube and all those places.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Thank you, Jason. We'll talk to you soon.

[Jason Locke]

You guys enjoy the draft.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Go Aaron Rodgers, Jason Locke and fora boys and girls, we will come back. John Warand is going to join us and answer my questions about essentially prime TV and why it freezes up. But it freezes up all the time. I'm Tony Kornheiser.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser Show.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Once again, this is a group with an interesting name, Damn Tall Buildings. This is a group with a song called Can't Slow Down Michael. If people like Damn Tall Buildings want to send in their original music to get played on the show, how do they do it?

[Co-host/Contributor]

Send us your music by emailing it to Jingles Tony CornwallShow.com and they play

[Tony Kornheiser]

in John Orant from Puck Now, John knows everything about the business of sports. Televised sports, radio sports, all of that stuff. He's like the expert that we go to every once in a while. And I, I, I need to, I'm going to sound. Wilbourne is going to laugh at me now because he says, why do you only have one tv? Nobody has only one tv, but I have one tv. That's been the habit of my life to have one tv. And the habit of my life is to hold a clicker in my hand. And when one game that I'm watching, and I don't watch news anymore, I don't watch shows. I don't. I just watch sports. When one game goes to commercial, I go to the other channel. And I can't, I can't do that when I'm on a streaming channel. When I'm on Amazon Prime TV or Peacock or what, I can't do it. First of all, it takes literally five to 10 minutes to get on, you know, and press the button so that I'm watching the game on a streaming service. And then I can't go back and forth. So the second time I try it, I just throw the clicker in the air and go to bed. Can you explain why so many sports now? I'm sure the answer is money, but it's got to be deeper than that. So many leagues now are partners with television services that old people like me, we don't get, we don't watch. I thought at one point, and I'm going on and on, but I thought at one point Congress actually wrote laws that the average human being with an average television set had to be able to watch certain games. What has happened, John?

[Show Producer/Announcer]

You know, Wilbaun has a kid in high school, so he, like, he tries to act younger. Like, we spent 40, 50 years professionalizing channel surfing, and now, like, we have to buy five TVs in order to see the games that are on.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

So the answer does come down to money, but it also, of course, like, it like everything else does. Yeah, but it also comes down a little bit to reach. So, you know, when and by that, if, if the NFL sells a package to ESPN or Fox or, or, you know, NBC, it's seen in the usa. If they sell a package to Netflix, it's. It's seen worldwide. And so it just, just immediately with, with one deal, they, and every league feels like they've hit a ceiling in the States. I mean, how much more can sports grow in the States? And so the big growth prospects are all international. And so this Is a, this, this is a very quick and easy way to go international rather than, you know, 10 years ago when you had to go market to market and actually cut different TV deals out there.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So let me ask. Let me ask the specific questions that somebody my age would ask. So you are saying to me that if I was in Belgrade and I was sitting in front of a tv, I could get prime tv. I could. And I couldn't get cbs. Yes.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

Right. You know, I'm not sure about prime specifically, but if you said Netflix, yes, you could get that in Belgrade, and you, you certainly could not get CBS and Belgrade and Belgrade.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So then why, if they want to make it accessible to everybody in the world, why does it take so long once you press on this channel? Why does it take so long? Why are there these little circles that roam around? And why does it take so long?

[Show Producer/Announcer]

Who is your video provider? Who do you use? Comcast.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right. Well, I have Comcast, but wilbond wanted me to go with this guy Derek. Derek is Wil Bond's guy. And I just felt at this late stage in my life, overhauling my entire viewing habits would be too much. But maybe I should do it. It takes so long. Why?

[Show Producer/Announcer]

I have become an evangelist for YouTube TV, and this is why. Because I now no longer need a Peacock subscription. I don't need to subscribe to the ESPN app because on YouTube TV, they did deals with NBC and they did deals with ESPN that you see all of that sports programming on YouTube TV, because they really were paying. Yeah, we're paying you a big price. So we may. You're still out of luck with Amazon and with Netflix, but, you know, you need those apps. But they're starting to do those deals with the broadcast network, saying, like, if you're going to put your programming on a, on a, on a streaming app, we want to be able to make it really easy for our customers to see it. And it is, it is a total joy as a, as a, as a viewer, I got to say.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So if I go to YouTube TV, which I don't know how to do, somebody would have to do it for me. Do I stop with Comcast completely?

[Show Producer/Announcer]

I have.

[Jason Locke]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And can you get NATS games?

[Show Producer/Announcer]

That's the unfortunate bit. They don't. They do not have a mass and deal. So you can't get NATS games.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, now it's. The Nats have their own 1261 on. On my career. I have another question, too. I'm sure you get this all the time. They freeze the games. Just stop they freeze. Not for 10 seconds, for minutes at a time. How can.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

And the other downfall, Tony, is if I'm watching it on YouTube TV, the delay is so much I do follow on social media as well. And I see that the guy scored a touchdown a full minute before it actually happened on my tv. It's totally ruined the, you know, the communal feel of watching the game.

[Tony Kornheiser]

If I am Adam Silver and I have sold the rights to playoff games, not just regular season games, playoff games that people might actually want to see. I have sold the rights to prime tv and then I watch and nothing happens for three minutes except the circles go around because nothing. Everybody's frozen. How, how do you feel about that? Why is that legal? Why can he do that?

[Show Producer/Announcer]

Well, so right now in D.C. in Congress, the FCC, the Department of justice, they're looking into the NFL because the NFL has an antitrust exemption, which means that a part of that exemption means that they have to do deals to be on broadcast television.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

And so these deals that they're doing with Netflix, a deal that they're doing even actually with espn, that was a cable, I would have to pay to watch that. And why do you have an exemption for that? And so those, that's something that's being looked at now in.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, they got around that by allowing local markets to carry that over the air. Right.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

That, that's their argument is that every single game is available locally. And, and, but, but it's still, it goes against the, it goes against the strict language of the, of the exemption. You know, the exemption says that it has to be on broadcast television. And if there's any. It's not exactly.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's on Primal Uncle Big Al, I love him, but it's on Prime. And then again, if it doesn't freeze up and if I can watch it when I want to go to something else, it takes five. You can't do it. It's not an easy back and forth as it is, for example, with, I don't know, the Golf Channel and espn. It's easy to go back and forth.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

Here's the problem, though, is that the TV ratings, or I guess I should say streaming ratings, the number of people watching it, they're pretty high on, on, on Amazon Prime. Thursday Night Football rated pretty close to Monday Night Football, for goodness sakes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Really?

[Show Producer/Announcer]

And so, so everything that you're complaining about is a valid complaint. But what the league see is a lot of other people, they're reaching a lot of other people that maybe aren't. Aren't you Know, connected to cable or maybe aren't watching broadcast.

[Tony Kornheiser]

This is my fear, this is my great fear that it's another example of where I am left behind and I have to sit in a corner and eat pudding because I can't, I can't watch sports. Don't care about us anymore. When did this change? When? Because I think it's tipped, I think it's tipped over to the streaming Services and the YouTubes and all of that. When was it okay to disenfranchise people in their 50s and 60s and 70s.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

I'm going to suggest to you that it was okay when in 1979 when ESPN launched and all of a sudden you had to buy cable TV in order to watch sports. And in fact, I think what you're seeing is bizarrely, streaming is happening and a lot of sports is going to streaming, obviously, but what you're also seeing is cable. Cable channels are losing subscribers hand over fist.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

And you're seeing a lot of those sports return to broadcast. I mean, we've seen more NBA games on broadcast television this season than we ever have, I think, ever in the history of the NBA Major League Baseball. The Sunday night package went from ESPN to the NBC. It's on broadcast television. So there is a lot that's coming over to broadcast television, but there's also a lot that's going to streaming. So if you want to see everything, I mean, if you're a poor Yankees fan and you just want to see Yankees games, you have to subscribe to. I think it's like five or six different services. But, but some of those services are over the air broadcast services as well.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Is Wilbur correct that if you have one TV you're a loser and that you have to have more than one tv? Is he correct? Maybe he's correct.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

I think he is. I only have one tv, so you're okay, but I think he is correct. I think the kids today had like, they have four TVs mounted on the wall with like, it's like going to a sports bar. Almost like, my goodness.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So this is going to get worse because more, more leagues are going to sell packages to more streaming services because that's, that's their global intent.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Isn't. Isn't.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

I'm not sure if it's gone. I'm not sure if it's going to get worse because if you're these global streaming services, do you care about a Wednesday night baseball game or February basketball game? What the, what these streaming services really care about are big events and anything that kind of looks like a big event and that's why the focus is on the NFL, because really any NFL game is a big event. But Netflix only wants big events. Amazon only wants like that Thursday night football that want one package and big events. YouTube is trying to get in. So it's. I'm not entirely certain that, that these streaming services are all in to do what ESPN and you know, Fox Sports 1 and all these sports only cable channels did that. I don't think they're set up that way and I don't think they have an interest in really paying that kind of money for that.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Is Netflix going to get Sunday Night Football, take it away from NBC?

[Show Producer/Announcer]

I think not. I think at least until 2030 it's going to be on NBC and. And I just have a feeling that everything that Tony was just talking about, everything that's happening in D.C. right now, I just think that the NFL is going to pause before taking the most watched show on broadcast television off of NBC. That's my guess.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I could live with the freezing up. Yeah, I can live with the freezing up. I can't live with the impossibility of changing from channel to channel, which I've been used to for so many years.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

Commercials again. I know. It's terrible, isn't it?

[Tony Kornheiser]

It just takes forever. You have to. It's like you're leaving one state and going through customs to get to another state. It's just. It's so low. Wrong. You. You lose your desire, you know, you just lose it. It's just really weird. It's really weird.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

And Amazon prime always says their post game show rates really better than any other post game show. And I'm like, of course it does. I'm too lazy to get up and change the channel. I'm just kind of stuck on it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, no, I think that's true. Well, they picked off Prime. Just picked off the NBA playoffs. They picked it off. I mean, that's where you have to go now. I don't know. It just. And then I have this great fear. If I sign up for prime, boxes will come to my house five days in a row. Boxes of stuff that I didn't want. Depends. It'll be coming. Depends. Anyway, John, thank you so much for indulging my nonsense. Thanks, John.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

I love coming on anytime you ask. Tony.

[Tony Kornheiser]

John Ouran boys and girls, we will take a break. We will come back with email and jingle. I'm Tony Kornhunt.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

This is the Tony Kornizer show.

[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Co-host/Contributor]

Love that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Zama Middle School. Really like that.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Great rhythm.

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[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Co-host/Contributor]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

Before we get to the mailbag, let me just say. Seems I've got to have a change of scene because every night I have the strangest dream. In prison, by the way, it could have been. I've got to leave before I start the scream. But someone's locked the door and took the key. You feeling all right? I'm not feeling too good myself. That's in honor of Dave Mason who passed away yesterday two days ago.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

In honor of Dave Mason. That was his song originally, but Joe Cocker did it.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Joe Cocker covered it brilliantly.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Did it better. Thanks to our guests today, Jason Locanfora and John Orand. Thanks as well to today's sponsors. Remember, you can listen to us on Apple podcast, Spotify and Audacy. If you got show through Apple. Please leave us a review.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Big shout out and thanks to Kevin Conway, our team 2026 bracket challenge winner. He has accepted our offer of a polo shirt and maybe we'll throw in a hat as well. We realized it might have been a little bit hard to send my dad's chips to Ireland.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Because he won in Ireland.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And the chips may not work.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's tough to get going across the ocean. I don't know what's going to happen.

[Co-host/Contributor]

I just want to guarantee the crisps.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. So yeah.

[Jason Locke]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Thank you from shed Littlest little not at 9 pounds 3 ounces. This is Miriam. She had a grandfather. Now started listening as a 20 something punk and now a 62 year old grandfather. Long strange trip it's been. Jeff Piggott. Our friend Jeff Piggott in West Des Moines really understands golf. He wanted to share some observations and lessons from Matt Fitzpatrick's bag which now has two wins in 2026. First, the iron setup. Matty plays two different models of ping irons. The four iron is an i210 introduced in 2018 and is five through nine are ping S55s introduced in 2013. He's playing S55 since turning pro 2014. Second, he has five different club brands in his bag from top to bottom. Key takeaways. Newer isn't always better for every golfer play what works and unless you're cashing big checks from the manufacturer, quit limiting yourself to one brand only. Find what works for you regardless of the badge. A good fitter can help you navigate the club selection to process to optimize selection process to optimize your game. Having a kid who played D1 golf is also helpful.

[Co-host/Contributor]

No mention the Bentonarti putter. Come on.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, it doesn't say that, but it's interesting.

[Co-host/Contributor]

We need to talk about the the lofts on the Mizuno M13s so you

[Tony Kornheiser]

should talk to Jeff about all this stuff. I don't understand any of it. I just think I can't hit this club. David Driscoll in Chapel Hill as the founder of E Quanum, a name well suited to the horse being named, I am wondering Equanim I guess I am wondering if I can be the official official thoroughbred naming consultant for the show should you or Greg Garcia decide to purchase any foals in the future. I can provide a list of Jockey Club approved names for you to choose from that will punningly reflect the sire and distaff sides of the pedigree and or any desired themes or in jokes. We also donate all of our proceeds to various equine welfare charities, which is night. Additionally, as the head rules official for the Northeast Conference Golf Championships, I'm assuming you're already planning to attend the Men's Conference Championship at Turf Valley outside Baltimore this Friday through Sunday to watch your beloved Binghamton Bearcats in action competing for the automatic bid to the NCAA Regionals. Anyway, please tell Ariel Helfer to eat it. Zero for lifetime at the plate facing Sam Neill.

[Co-host/Contributor]

He writes I love it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Facing family David Driscoll.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Devastating curveball.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I didn't know that we were in the nec. I thought we were in the the Far West.

[Co-host/Contributor]

I will drive you to the golf course. If you show up to the first tee, full set of Binghamton clubs and just say are you the 848?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, I just. Wow. The Bearcats. It's this week. Wow. Good luck to them. Yes, John Johnathan Writing from a small town outside London, Ontario, you are correct. John J O N is short for Jonathan and the other less classy one is John Johan. My father and his brother were the only ones who called me Jonathan and I disliked the name growing up. But now that I'm older and when people spell my name Johan, it upsets me even more. I have been tempted to go back to Jonathan in my adult age, but I am also not classy Enough to use that name either, so I will stick with John. Fun fact. In the men's basketball league, there are two Johns and one Jonathan, which goes to show how I play in a classy basketball league. We have a cousin and a nephew. Jonathan, right?

[Co-host/Contributor]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He's always Jonathan. He's never been. Never Jonathan.

[Co-host/Contributor]

I love that I'm now old enough to see the trends, like every decade, the trends in these names, sort of. You see the ebb and flow.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What's the new. What's the hot name now, like Owen.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Big name the last 10 years.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Owen.

[Co-host/Contributor]

The ER names. The ER name still going strong.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, yeah, the ER names.

[Jason Locke]

The.

[Tony Kornheiser]

The British lower class names.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Thank you. Oh, that was. You're just getting more appointed with that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, that's. I mean, because that's what it is. They're. They're job names. They're job names, man.

[Co-host/Contributor]

And the people.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right, yeah. Baker. They're job names. Sure. From Andrew in Bentonville. Sure, Tim and Michael and Mark are fun names, but Blake or Balike, as I just say, Balakay, as it is said by some, is even better. I graduated high school with five, yes, five Blakes in a class of just 36 students. Needless to say, creativity was required for our teachers to keep them all in line. Two of their nicknames have slipped my mind, but three remain constant due to how they've been saved in my phone for nearly 20 years. One of these three, one Blake, three one Blake, was named the reverend due to his seminary aspirations after graduation. The second's middle name was Robert, so he was obviously Bob. The third final Blake, being superior to them all, was referred to as the Colonel, as his last name was Sanders. Alas, he hasn't become involved in any fried chicken business thus far in life. It's a lot of Blakes. That's his Jonathan Boyd. Huntsville, Alabama. Dear Captain, shoe retailer, potato farmer. Ron, you think there are a lot of Steves out there? Please ask Anyone born between 1960 and 1980 just how many other Johns. Johns. Jonathan's. Jonathans. Jonathans, they know. As an aside, it once took us five johns to move my wife's ficus tree. P.S. i'm not even going to ask to be the official Jonathan. I figure that's already taken. This comes from what I said about Jody Forstadt's brother, that they were all Steves. Yes, and he became Lance.

[Co-host/Contributor]

I want to know more about that ficus. Little Ficus.

[Tony Kornheiser]

May I be the official. This is local Davis. May I be the official jamoke of the show? I know My name is just behind Tim for most common names. I have a shake at Arby's that people think is my name. And I hear Jamuke said in movies and comedy shows, but alas, that is not my name. I thought Jamoke was an insult.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Yeah, I think it's Jamoki. I think it might be Jamoki.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Tim Collins in Amherst, New Hampshire. Tim Collins here. I was dangerously close to being named Tom Collins, a trick my dad played on my mother until she came through in the throes of labor and said, wait, I can't name my kid that. They'll think I'm a lush. Tom Collins is a famous, you know, cocktail. My dad had a vision that I'd never have to pay for a drink in my life, as I could walk into any bar and declare, Tom Collins is here. And voila. Free gin. While my dad's delusion was denied, it affords me the chance to claim my birthright of having my email read on your fine program while I'm playing my Tim card. Could I also ask you tell my lifelong pals Bonnie Walker and Zach Daniels to eat it?

[Jason Locke]

Sure.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. But how did we get involved in these? In this? Brett Bossing Lee, New Hampshire. Yeah, I'm hoping I can be the official Brett of the TK Show. I don't know if Brett Hobbs already laid claim to it. I'm happy to go head to head with him. Round of golf. Rock, paper, scissors. Fight to the death. You can decide the terms. I'm up for any fight to the death. Seems. Seems extreme.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Also, Brett Whiskins, Wynn Mossman, who we

[Tony Kornheiser]

know from Moscow, Idaho. Dear Uncle Captain Dr. Tim.

[Jason Locke]

Mark.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Come on. Everyone knows wins, win, eat at Tim's and Mark's. Except my Uncle Tim and my former law partner and now local jurist. Mark wins. I don't know. I don't know that many wins. He's the only one that I know. I know early win, but it's a last name. Yes, from Albert Macias. My middle name is Mark. Can I join the auxiliary? From Ted Kenniston in Cincinnati. My first name is Ted, not Tim Loy. Little Sue Hidell calls me text. Not sure why. I've called the Cincinnati equivalent of Ingleside on her behalf. She'll love standing with a group of people around a piano and singing. It's fun. It's funny. Trey Watson, Lexington, Kentucky. Can I be the official Trey Tres. Pronounced like Trey, but spelled with an S. Of the show. I know there aren't many of us. But I still think it's prudent to go ahead and lock it down. So my sense of Trey is that it usually is short for the third.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Like you are something the third and you are called Trey, Right? I didn't know. Tres. I have never seen. I assume that's the French.

[Co-host/Contributor]

It's the French.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I assume that French. Mark Hughes in Ashton, Maryland. Hey Skipper. On behalf of all Littles Lord Little's name, Mark, I would like to thank Mark Feinstein for acknowledging the heated Mark versus Tim rivalry and representing the Mark so well on Monday's podcast. Well done, sir. Tim Kirkton, the ball is now in your court. What do you got to do for the Tim's? Blaine Atlanta, Texas. Atlanta, Texas. Atlanta. There is an Atlanta text apparently. So yeah, seems to be Dr. Ron. Seems to be a lot of Tim's and Marks on the show. To my knowledge, I'm the only Blaine that is emailed. Does that make me the official Blaine of the show? I'm certainly the only resident of Atlanta, Texas to email unless former Packers GM Ted Thompson ever emailed. Can I be the official Atlanta Rabbit of the TK Show? I never heard of Atlanta, Texas. I think most of us think of Atlanta, Georgia.

[Jason Locke]

Yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Josh Hearth, Cape Coral, Florida Many years ago I had requested the title of the official Subaru ambassador. However, this past weekend I sold my Legacy GT and for the first time in years, I am sans Subaru. So please consider this my formal application to be considered the former official Subaru Ambassador of the show. And for the record, Josh Cromwell is right about our first name. In fact, while listening to the mailbag whenever another Josh mails in, as soon as I hear you mention the first name, I briefly perk up and get excited till you read my email. Only to realize then that I haven't emailed you in months. This is why we named our son Zeke. Not gonna see a half a dozen of those in every class he has, is he? He's from Josh Hurst from Cape Coral, Florida. Zeke always reminds me of the Jerry west nickname. Zeke from Cabin Creek. It was an insult to Jerry West. Jerry west overcame all that.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Yes, he did.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Jerry West. Just the greatest career ever in the history of the game of the he's the picture of the league. He is Paul Nelson now of Rockville, Maryland. Did I hear the name correctly from a letter on Monday's show? Earl Brewer being a lacrosse coach at Coastal Carolina. I was at McLean High School in the early 80s and we had a lacrosse club and the coach my senior year was named Earl Brewer. If that's him, well, I guess as is traditional here, please tell him to eat it. Just kidding. He was an awesome coach. Tell him Paul Ferd, Russ and Pat send their regards. I assume he listens.

[Jason Locke]

I would guess so.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Listens from Brian Sunox in St. Petersburg, Florida. I'm delighted to share that I've started a new job where I'll make more money, work from home and enjoy better benefits. With one major caveat. Can you guess who my new health insurance provider is? That's right. Cognitive indifference. It's calculated indifference gives no aid.

[Co-host/Contributor]

By the way, I have this Atlanta, Texas is a small town in Cass County, East Texas, known for its rich railroad history, small town charm and proximity to outdoor recreation.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So I don't know. Yeah, we're all. We're all in proximity to outdoor recreation. Go out the door. Go out the door and run. Sean Green WDEL Sports Director News Reporter Wilmington, Delaware after listening to your discussion with Ron Flatter on Friday about Kenny McPeak being excited to name a horse after Luccheeserie, I felt I needed to check the Jockey Club registry to see if we could pull off what we all want, the Tony Kornheiser Derby of Available names. Imagine lecheeserie breaking out of the gate quickly only to see Littles bounce to the outside of Chuck and Roxy and do wear white. Connective tissue leads Mr. Tony's mailbag at the half mile pole. But surprisingly, Nigel is always taken. He finished second in a race in Kentucky two weeks ago. Into the far turn, there's mass confusion as the U of Kahn and Marquette suddenly appear and threaten to win everything at long odds. And down the stretch they come Flush the Mouse lives up to his name yet again. But there can be only one true outcome of a Tony Korniser Derby, a hardy Lachis Ree for the win. Unfortunately, there can be no chatter as a horse by that name ran second in a race earlier this month in Kentucky, but we all know that hasn't existed since 2019. Anyway, yes, this is from someone signs the name Tokyo Tim. Yet another Tim here. And I can assure you as someone connected to the military community here in Tokyo, Japan, there are many others, even non Tims, who are following your show and watching PTI on the Armed Forces Television, Channel 4. We don't go up to 1261. My morning routine while I listen to this high quality podcast in the car includes a stop at our neighborhood convenience store, Konbini. In Japanese parlance, I purchased one of those aforementioned delicious egg salad sandwiches, Sandowichis a very nice machine generated cafe latte and a physical copy of the Japan Times English newspaper that includes articles from the Washington Post and other international publications. My total cost for these purchases is 750 yen or about $4.70. Damn good deal as far as I can see. Included are a couple of photos for those watching on News Channel 8. I cannot say how much it means to those of us living abroad that we can maintain a cultural sports connection through PTR and your always entertaining podcast. Do not underestimate your impact on those of us in the military and expat communities overseas. All the best to you Michael, Nigel and the team from all of us in the Far East. Isn't that nice. He also says, tell Paul Lundy and John Theck to eat it. P.P.S. since I live in Japan, I'll see what I can do about a haiku next time. All due respect to Chad, yes, and he's got pictures of this, you know, with with a note who made the egg salad sandwiches? Yeah, from Steve Gilmore in San Angelo, Texas. Amazon is freezing up when you're watching the game. Try putting some Neosporin on it. See if that helps. And one more Ted Smith in Pittsburgh Hearing about Coach Williams ace reminded me of a hole in one story that I kind of witnessed. I was playing a tune up round with my sons for an annual family golf tournament with my youngest, who was 14 at the the time, shanked a hybrid deep into the swamp on a long par three. Upon re teeing, he proceeded to hit a beautiful high draw towards the flag to two hops right into the cup. He threw his hands into the air and immediately ran directly to the green with his club still in his hand. In celebration. As any proud father would do, I drove up in the cart, stuck my hand out for a celebratory handshake and said, nice park kid. Yeah, because that's what it is, dad.

[Co-host/Contributor]

Go.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Second shot. Nice park here. As an as an aside, I'm frequently mistaken as a Tim by casual acquaintances. Ted Smith that's funny. If you're out on your bike tonight, everyone, as always, do wear white now.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

If there's anything I can do for

[Tony Kornheiser]

you but I certainly hope you'll die

[Musician/Singer]

soon well, the universe is eating us alive and we'll probably all die But I hope that you and I survive when the universe is eating us alive and we'll probably all die But I hope you and I spy with life. It's just a long list of phone calls I have to make, unread emails that I can't erase don't know what to say well anyway I've been staring straight through to the morning sun now looking down I can't see anyone just the blowing of the bees well the universe seems now alive and we'll probably all die but I hope you and I survive with universities keeping us alive and we'll probably all die but I hope you and I survive I float through the jet stream on my airplane all picking up the signal from the jet waves While I thought that I could hear you sayin I got my friends inside my pocket so I'm not alone all the loving that I need But I'm a telephone so won't you pick up the receiver well the universe feeding us alive and we'll probably all die I hope you and I survive the universe keep us alive and we'll probably all die I hope you and I survive

okay.

I had the full length feature but it's long gone now. I'm sleeping on the couch with TV on hands speaking to the old guy she's f ing all your secrets When I'm all alone all telling me the things that nobody knows but I'm too distracting to remember well the universe eating us alive and we'll probably all die But I hope you and I survive with universe eating us alive and we'll probably all die But I hope you and I survive with universe beating us alive and we'll probably all die I hope you and I survive with universe Jesus alive and we'll probably all die and I hope you and I survive. So why don't you pick up the receiver.

Can't slow down whip around and corner a while still round with those thoughts behind your eyes I heard feeling just a whisper in the quiet those thoughts you're thinking sneaking at night waking up didn't recognize my myself caught my reflection in with someone else so my belongings are cut up of my hair I'm in money I can take you anywhere Worn down too much friction smooth sailing from here on out sweet talk

those

words are twisted I like to watch

them fall out your mouth.

Lost my breath now you're a stranger early morning all the light just pouring in can't seem to shake this world around me looking back can't tell who we were then worn down too much friction Smooth sailing from here on out sweet talk those words are twisting I

like to watch em fall out your mouth.

Sam. It's all right we're only sleeping don't be mistaken we've been living in my dreams I'm sure with hesitation I got exactly just what you need Bo down Too much friction it's no sailing from

here on out

those words twisted I like to watch them fall down your mouth. Sa.

[Jason Locke]

It.