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Tony Kornheiser
Hey, it's Tony. On today's show, we'll get NFL picks from Chuck Todd. We'll talk college football with Chuck Culpepper. And with any luck, we'll get Chuck Berry, Chuck Nolan, Chuck Norris on the show. But first, how about a little commerce, boys and girls?
Chuck Todd
Previously on the Tony Kornhauser Show.
Tony Kornheiser
Let me get the flies. I don't know what fly. You know, I know that bees live in a hive. I don't know that they're a hive of flies. I don't know there's a parliament of flies. I don't know that there's a covey of fl.
Chuck Culpepper
I've got terms for you.
Tony Kornheiser
What is a bunch of flies?
Chuck Culpepper
Well, a swarm is most common. Well, it apparently applies to flies as well. A business of flies. I like that.
Tony Kornheiser
They're giving me the business. They're giving me the business. This is General George Washington and you're listening to the Tony Kornheiser. Let's get right to flies. Okay, let's announce first that Chris is with us today. Oh, yeah. But let's get to flies. Michael, say what you have done on the fly front.
Michael Granberry
Oh, we have picked up a Zevo. It's got some sort of blue light that it emits and it attracts flying insects. And in the first evening of the trap, easily 15 to 20 flies.
Tony Kornheiser
Okay, it is.
Nigel
It is gross.
Tony Kornheiser
Michael showed me still have flies in the house every time I kill a fly. And I must have killed 30 to 40 flies by now. Three more show up.
Michael Granberry
So I could feel the pride in your eyes when I came over and just worked on my technique.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, well, so here's what you do. Attaboy. So Nigel has a theory about this.
Chuck Culpepper
That there's that, well, we've gotten a number of emails about this, that the theory is that something has died in the house.
Nigel
I've died slowly rotting.
Tony Kornheiser
I'm AI.
Chuck Culpepper
Because there was mentions of past mouse, mice incursions and perhaps a mouse died somewhere in an attic or a crawl space. And the flies respond to that. And then after they're done with that, they're like, what's in the rest of the house?
Tony Kornheiser
Okay, so maybe that's it. And maybe American pest will get here on Friday, as they claim. Maybe. Maybe American Pest, which charges us something like $240 to come around once a month to spray for ticks and mosquitoes. I don't care about that now. I care about flies now. So I hope they show up.
Chuck Todd
I'll.
Nigel
I'll charge you 230. I'll cut in a few of these walls.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, yeah.
Nigel
Look, knock around a little bit. I got a. I got a saw in my car.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, you're going to want the Nat. The Nats lost both ends of a double header yesterday. I didn't think the second game was going to be played. It had not started by 8:30. It was raining. You know, they were showing clips from a Marlins game from 1991 or something like that. And it just said. Just said weather delay. So I never thought they would actually get this in. I wake up this morning to find out that I knew. They lost the first game. 6, 3. The second game they lost 5, 0. In 10. In 10. It was tied, 0. Played a tight game to get there going into the 10th, and they gave up five runs in the 10th. Who was pitching? I don't even know who it was.
Nigel
Not Mackenzie Gore, you know, so five. He was out by that point.
Tony Kornheiser
In the story today about the Nats, I'll just say this. Jake Irvin, who I liked last year a lot and still sort of like Jake Irvin, in the first game, gave up his 35th home run. That's the worst in all of baseball. But he backs it up. Jake Irvin, because he's got the second worst ERA in all of baseball among starting pitchers. 5, 7, 6. You know who's got the first worst? I know his teammate, Mitchell Parker. Five, eight, three. So you wonder why the gnats stink. That's why the gnats stink.
Nigel
Want to hear a fun Jake Irvin fact? I heard yesterday he has not won a game since July 27th.
Tony Kornheiser
Whoops. Okay, well, speaking about people who haven't done well since July, the All Star break, big hitter James Wood. He strikes out constantly. Constantly. He now leads the majors in strikeouts. He may set a major league record for strikeouts. He also hits home runs. But he's nowhere near the effective player in the second half of the year that he was in the first half.
Michael Granberry
Have there been any disruptions to the team over this time?
Tony Kornheiser
No. Oh, yes. They've been a major disruption. Okay. They fired a coach. Okay. But he's getting no coaching and no managing. He's getting none of that.
Michael Granberry
On the flip side, with two weeks left of the season.
Chuck Todd
Season.
Michael Granberry
I'm looking at Lyle and thinking, how great is that surprise?
Tony Kornheiser
Can he field?
Nigel
He can play the outfield. I mean. I mean, he's no. He's no Jacob Young.
Tony Kornheiser
Jacob Young's a great fielder, but he can't hit it. This isn't Michael.
Nigel
The only thing I was Worried about with Lyle and it's probably not because he's young, but I was slightly worried about the ghost of Joey Manesses like good last two months on a terrible team.
Chuck Culpepper
By the way, it was Thompson was got the loss.
Nigel
Mason Thompson.
Chuck Culpepper
Yes. And Poulin. P.J. poulin, Poland.
Tony Kornheiser
I love his Annie Polis.
Nigel
Oh my.
Tony Kornheiser
I don't know who that is.
Nigel
Makes great weed eaters.
Tony Kornheiser
Don't know who any of them are. Don't care. And you know they're not going to be here next year as neither is the manager. And none of the coaches wouldn't think so you get rid of them. Okay. In other baseball news, here's why Shohei Otani is the mvp. And now they lost to the Phillies. The Phillies. That was a game that went back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Johanni at one point hit his 50th home run, a two run shot to give the Dodgers a lead. This is after. After he had pitched five innings of no hit ball with five strikeouts. That's why Kyle Schwarber with more home runs is not the MVP.
Nigel
And what's regular tone? I watched six innings that came regularly hitting 100.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, I mean it's incredible. He's the best player of all time. And in the American League, Kyle. Cal Rawley, big dumper, hit two home runs. 55 and 56. He's going to get 60 home runs. Cal Rawley, 60 home runs. He's a switch hitter and he's a catcher. It's like, come on.
Chuck Culpepper
Anytime the phrase is used in regards to you, you just did something better than Mickey Mantle.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah. He is the most powerful switch hitter of all time in a single season. He's got the most home run.
Nigel
My kid asked me the other day, I made that point about mantle and my 13 year old who's very into baseball was like, was Mickey Mantle good? I was like, was Mickey.
Tony Kornheiser
It made me feel better.
Nigel
2000 years old, I was like, was Mickey Mantle good?
Tony Kornheiser
He was better than good. Yes.
Nigel
I mean.
Michael Granberry
Okay, so given where we are in the season, could I interest you for the first week of the playoffs? Mets at Dodgers for wild card. And then winner of that going to Philly for a short series.
Tony Kornheiser
Just great. You want to see it? Let me get back on the Cigna front. For people who thought that Cigna everything was good, I'll just mention this. My, I had a doctor, my doctor, Chris Duke. I told him that I'd had hamstring issues on my right hamstring and I don't know why Pain, particularly when I drive. I'm grabbing my right hamstring the entire drive to Delaware. I'm grabbing it the entire drive to Colombia. It's, you know, I mean, it. As soon as I sit in the car, I get pain in my hamstring. And he thought that it might be sciatica. And he recommended that I go to Dr. Mark Klayman, who is a physical doctor, one of those guys who. Who looks at your body and tries to help you without invasive surgeries and stuff like that.
Nigel
I mean, you could talk to him, doctor to doctor. So that's helpful for you.
Tony Kornheiser
Okay, so. Right. Because I am a peer as well.
Nigel
Yeah, peers.
Tony Kornheiser
It's a peer conversation.
Nigel
He would obviously respect you.
Tony Kornheiser
So Dr. Klayman says, look, we got to get an MRI. And I say, sure, I understand that. And I make an appointment. And then CIGNA refuses to do the mri. Then CIGNA is partnered with something called Evacor, which is just as bad as cigna. Cigna, which of course stands for calculated indifference. Gives no aid. Evercore. I don't know what it stands for. It stands for the same thing. And the Evercore people say, no, no, here's what. Before you can get the mri, you have to go to six sessions of physical therapy, and it has to not work. And then we'll give you the mri. And I just. I said, fine, I'll just say this on this air. I didn't say this at the time. There was no point. I am asking for something diagnostic. You were asking me to do something else. I'm asking for diagnosis here. I've had a bad back. I almost had to have a back operation. I have records of this. You have my records of this. We've reached the point where I need an MRI on my back, and you're saying, no, you're saying, do six sessions of physical therapy first and they have to fail. That's so stupid. Like, seriously, Evercore. That's so stupid. So I had to cancel Two different MRIs so far. And, you know, I don't know what to do. And you know what? I'm going to end up grabbing my hamstring down on the ground in the middle of a street, you know, and then you're going to say, oh, okay, maybe. Maybe now. Evercore. Cigna. Get out. What is evic? O R E? It's a partner of Signet.
Nigel
Doesn't it feel like one of those? Like that is like the most German conglomerate named acronyms, you know? Oh, it's Evercore by Ever North. I don't know what that means?
Tony Kornheiser
I guess we're hiking. I guess we're going north to Alaska.
Nigel
Well, they leverage their clinical expertise, evidence based guidelines and innovative technologies to live or better. This is not medical.
Tony Kornheiser
No, no. It's garbage.
Nigel
Well, it says this on the Internet.
Michael Granberry
They're your North Star for better health.
Tony Kornheiser
Just. Yeah. Waste of time. I got a bad hamstring. I probably have side. Wouldn't you want to know what I had? If you're going to pay for this down the road. Evercore Cigna. Okay, let's get to the big news. When we did a bunch of little news. Robert redford is gone. 89 years old. I made a list of some of the movies. Robert Redford. Robert Redford was a fine actor. Is he the greatest actor of all time? I don't know. I did. He never won an Academy Award. He should have. Should have won for Butch Cassidy in the Sundance Kid.
Nigel
Should have won for the Natural.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, everybody in these movies should have won Academy Awards. Most did. He didn't. He won an Academy Award for directing. He directed Ordinary People, which is Wilbur's favorite movie, which is a fine movie, but so depressing I cannot watch it. Yeah. He also directed a movie that I thought was great about probably 20 years ago now called Quiz Show. Yes. Which I believe was written by the Washington Post film critic at the time, Paul Adonisio. I believe that's true. Somebody could look at that.
Nigel
John Turturro is. And I love John Turo.
Tony Kornheiser
He's great.
Chuck Culpepper
He's so great when they make him get the question wrong.
Tony Kornheiser
Yes. It's just a. So good. Yeah.
Chuck Culpepper
Marty, wasn't it that the answer.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, yeah. Ernest Borgman. Yeah, it's a great movie. Here are some of Robert Redford's movies. The Natural, the Way We Were, the Candidate, which nobody knows, which is a great movie. Downhill Racer, Three Days of the Condor, Butch Casting. The Sundance Kid, the Sting, all the President's Men out of Africa. The Great Gatsby. His first movie was Barefoot in the Park. He starred in Broadway and Barefoot in the park and then he made a movie of it, the Great Waldo Pepper Indecent Proposal, which was an interesting movie. And the last one that I saw with him was the Old man and the gun. It's about 15 years ago, something like that. I enjoyed. Yeah, Robert Redford was great. Just absolutely great. And. And the lead story in all the obituaries is not about his acting or his directing. It's about his contribution to independent films with the Sundance Film Festival obviously named after the Sundance Kid, Robert Redford seemed to be. Didn't seem to be anything wrong with Robert Redford. And the person I idolized most in journalism, Bob Woodward, was friends with him for 50 or 60 years. Pals, good pals. Chat on the phone, stuff like that.
Nigel
Also 89 in what I assume was a very nice home in Utah. In your sleep. Yeah, that's a.
Tony Kornheiser
That's also.
Nigel
Paul Adonasio was the original screenplay writer and they brought in Richard Go Goodwin.
Tony Kornheiser
Okay. I don't know.
Nigel
I didn't know him either. Aiden Speed trader to JFK and lbj.
Tony Kornheiser
Okay. So interesting. Oh, that's Doris Kearns Goodwin's husband.
Nigel
That's exactly right. That's why I knew his face.
Tony Kornheiser
Okay.
Nigel
You know who he looks like? He looks like the guy in. Well, forget it. In this HBO show. He, he. I'm never going to remember his name. Richard Goodwin was co writer on that. Okay, I did not realize that.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, that's cool. Paul Adonasio.
Nigel
Yep.
Chuck Culpepper
Yes.
Tony Kornheiser
The guy I knew. Guy like, I would say, hey, what's up?
Chuck Culpepper
Hey, Paul.
Tony Kornheiser
And you know. Yeah. Was he before Shales, he was the movie critic. She has those tv.
Nigel
Oh, movie. Okay.
Tony Kornheiser
He's the movie critic. He was after Hal Hinson and before whoever was after him. Who. I don't know at the moment, anyway. So Robert Redford movies, right.
Chuck Culpepper
Yes.
Tony Kornheiser
I. You know, who's got. Who's got movies like this? Paul Newman's got movies like this. Warren Beatty's got movies. Not many people have movies like this. Warren Beatty did like seven movies. That's like all he did.
Chuck Culpepper
And they're all great.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, they're all great. They're all great.
Chuck Culpepper
And with Redford, I mean, any movie, even if it wasn't a particularly good movie, I just, off top my head, something like Legal Eagles. It was still enormously entertaining. Like Sneakers, which was not like the highest profile. All of them. He made every single thing he was in better now.
Tony Kornheiser
He was always Robert Redford. Well, that's himself. Well, that's okay.
Chuck Culpepper
Yeah.
Tony Kornheiser
I mean, he seemed, from everything I've read, he seemed a worthy man. Right.
Nigel
Oh, and I mean, you mentioned Sundance, but I mean, obviously he's done huge amounts of philanthropy and humanitarian work, too. I mean, that's like paragraph three of the obit.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, yeah.
Chuck Culpepper
A life. Well, and apparently just wanted to be an artist. Like a painter when he was young.
Tony Kornheiser
You can watch his movies. You can watch. It's 20. I just read almost 20 movies. You can watch them one at a time, day after day, and come back and watch them again, you know, I mean every. Like if I say Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, everybody knows what that is. Yeah. Everybody's got the BJ Thomas song. Everybody's got the Catherine Ross on the top of the bike. Come on. Like. Everybody knows the. Everybody knows all the President's Men. Everybody knows the Sting. These are fantastic movies. Everybody knows the Natural. Yeah, Natural is so. The music in the Natural. It's so evocative, so unbelievably good.
Nigel
Did you see. I never knew this and I don't know if he said it, but speaking of Bob Woodward. Sorry. Not like I know him all that well, but speaking Mr. Woodward, sir.
Tony Kornheiser
Me? Yeah.
Nigel
Bob said that he told Redford on the set of all the President's Men Deep Throats identity.
Tony Kornheiser
Really?
Nigel
Yes. Mark Felt.
Chuck Culpepper
And Redford never leaked that?
Tony Kornheiser
No. Isn't that fascinating?
Nigel
I don't know why I never knew that. I read it in one of these.
Tony Kornheiser
They were sort of pals. I mean, my understanding is that it was Redford who basically said to Bob and Carl, I know you guys don't want to be the stars, but you guys are the stars of this. You have to write it in that way that you got the book, all the presence, man. You have to make yourself the stars and people will. Will relate to that, you know, so they became pals forever and ever and ever. He's a guy, he's. He's at the. He's at the top of the list.
Nigel
I can't believe. I can't believe he never won an Academy Award.
Tony Kornheiser
No, he won as a director, but.
Nigel
Not as an actor.
Tony Kornheiser
I don't know how many times he was even nominated as an actor.
Nigel
I mean, I would assume for Butch, Cassie and Sunday.
Tony Kornheiser
I don't know that. I'm not sure, I'm not sure how many times he was nominated, but he was just, you know, I don't like the word iconic. You know, I think it's used way too much. But he's one of those. And as an American actor, is there one alive now? I think there's Tom Hanks. Yeah, I think Tom Hanks, everything he does is great. You know, I think he's one of those guys. He was.
Nigel
He was only nominated according to this. He was only nominated once for best actor in thing.
Tony Kornheiser
Isn't that.
Chuck Culpepper
I mean, that's.
Michael Granberry
So you mentioned iconic. Is some of that because he was such a handsome actor that it's, it's hard to separate him as just the actor.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, he's wise, fabulous looking guy. Obviously I think Brad Pitt has suffered.
Chuck Culpepper
From the same sort of like, we're just a good looking guy. So you look good on camera. You can't be that good of an actor. And then you look at him, you're like, oh, actually you are a great actor.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah. You know, that makes sense. Yeah. That people are too pretty. Right. You know, tell me about it. Although. Yeah, sure. Although it hasn't it. What has it done for Rob Lowe?
Chuck Culpepper
Well, he's had a good career.
Nigel
Yeah, he has.
Tony Kornheiser
But he's not Robert Redford. He's not Brad Pitt.
Nigel
No.
Tony Kornheiser
Brad Pitt's not Robert Redford.
Chuck Culpepper
No, no. It's enormously accomplished.
Tony Kornheiser
That's the top of the mountain.
Chuck Culpepper
Robert Redford.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, that's the top of the mountain. Yeah.
Nigel
Top of the pops.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah. They called him. They called him Bob Woodward. Called him Bob. Yeah. I remember reading this thing the other day that there's now a guy in the major leagues whose name is Bob, not Bobby. And he's the only one in baseball named Bob. Bob used to be Bob Gibson. Very, very popular name in every part of the. Of the culture. Yeah. And Redford call. I think Redford referred to himself as Bob Redford. And Bob Woodward, of course, quotes I've.
Chuck Culpepper
Seen from friends like Jane Fonda referred to him as Bob. So I'm sure that's.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, Woodward, that was his byline, was. It was not Robert. Right. It was Bob Woodward. That's how he saw him. That's how he sees himself. Anyway, attention must be paid. Yesterday on the PTI show, the melancholy trails was to Robert Redford. Yeah. And people say, well, you can do it. Because a downhill racer in the natural. Yeah, you can do it. I mean he played those roles. So anyway. All right, we will take a break. Is it Chuck Todd? Yes, we have all Chucks today. Chuck Culpepper and Chuck Todd.
Chuck Culpepper
Yes. Maybe Chuck Norris.
Tony Kornheiser
You know, if Chris would change his name to Chuck Salizza. Much good for us. I'm Tony Kornheiser.
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Chuck Todd
There was a lot of. There was a lot of annoying, right?
Reginald the Monkey
Yeah. The.
Chuck Todd
The Chiefs should have won that game.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah. Yeah.
Chuck Todd
Okay. Yeah, the Chief should have won that game. So that was, that was one. That, that, that feels off. I can't really. And the Cowboys did not cover, right?
Tony Kornheiser
Yes, Cowboys did not cover.
Chuck Todd
Cowboys did not cover. And I, you know, that defense will. We'll talk about Mr. Eber Floose.
Tony Kornheiser
But that was one of the best games. I bet. I didn't see it. Well, I saw it on Red Zone.
Chuck Todd
But so is arena football, right?
Tony Kornheiser
Well, you know, but you know, the People in this, I mean, you know, like I had. It's not that I had a rooting interest. I want Dak Prescott to be a good quarterback. I do. And he was a good quarterback in that. And then. And then Russell Wilson, you know, drops it in the bucket to neighbors. The game is won. What do you mean? A 64 yard field goal, a tie.
Chuck Todd
It was that field goal. I love that stat. He's got two 64 yard field goals. Everybody else in the league has to just bond it.
Tony Kornheiser
So. Okay, so let's get to this week. Let's start with the Thursday night game, which could lead to the firing of Mike McDaniel at Miami. If they get blowed out. They could. They are getting 12 and a half at Buffalo. The Buffalo quarterback is slightly injured. He's going to wear some sort of mask, maybe. That's not going to work. Miami really, really needs this game. And Buffalo's really a lot better than Miami. 12 and a half is a lot. What are you going to do?
Chuck Todd
It is in a division game and I heard a stat earlier today that McDermott's never covered a spread on the Dolphins over three points.
Tony Kornheiser
Really? The coach of the Buffalo. Really?
Chuck Todd
Yeah, yeah, yeah, something like that.
Tony Kornheiser
Wow.
Chuck Todd
But how can you take.
Reginald the Monkey
Because I'm.
Chuck Todd
Well, look, the reason to take the Dolphins is if the team likes McDaniel. Because I'm with you. I think this is the, the fired McDaniel game.
Tony Kornheiser
Yes. Because he would have. The new Guy would have 10 days to integrate with the team. Yes. It's the. It's the right time. Yep.
Reginald the Monkey
It's.
Chuck Todd
It's. It's the right move. Everybody sees it coming.
Reginald the Monkey
This is.
Chuck Todd
I feel like I should have somebody telling me you should not bet against Josh Allen. I'm going to take the points. That's too many points in a division game. And I'm going to bet against desperation. I know I'm gonna bet there's some desperation on the Dolphins and I think they like DJ Mike McDaniel.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah. Okay.
Chuck Todd
I think the players like them and they're going to miss them.
Tony Kornheiser
Here is a game between two teams that are hurt. They're hurt right now. They have lost their quarterbacks. Cincinnati is 2 0. Minnesota is 1 and 1. Joe Burrow is out forever. He's out for the whole year. J.J. mcCarthy. You don't even know if he's any good. All you just know is that he's out at the moment. Cincinnati is getting three and a half at Minnesota. A dispirited team. Cincinnati would seem to me but with enormous talent. The enormous talent on offense, who you got?
Chuck Todd
All right, can we. Can we ran against the Cincinnati Bengals as an organization?
Tony Kornheiser
Sure.
Chuck Todd
They kill their quarterback.
Tony Kornheiser
Yes.
Chuck Todd
Don't they get offensive linemen? I mean, we, we. We had the. Carson Palmer had that amazing. God, I remember it looked like Carson Palmer was going to be great.
Tony Kornheiser
Yes. And they killed him.
Chuck Todd
And he gets hurt in that playoff and he kills him and he never recovers.
Tony Kornheiser
Greg Cook. Many years ago they killed Greg Cook.
Chuck Todd
He doesn't. You know, they signed all the skill. They created a fantasy football team. Fantasy football, you don't need offensive linemen, but in real American football, last time I checked, you do need offensive lineman, right?
Tony Kornheiser
Yes.
Chuck Todd
Anyway, give me. I love Browning.
Tony Kornheiser
Really? You're going to take Cincinnati in the three. Okay, well, three picks. I don't.
Chuck Todd
Yeah, give me, Give me the Bengals.
Tony Kornheiser
Okay. Okie dokie. The LA Rams are undefeated. The Philadelphia Eagles are undefeated. LA goes all the way across the country, gets three and a half against the team that has had a pretty tough schedule so far. Pretty tough. I mean, to go win in Kansas City is a big deal. Whether they deserve that game or not. They could conceivably be resting on their laurels, but it's tough to go across the country. And the Rams. The Rams are not winning by huge margins. I'm leaning me personally to Philadelphia. Will you take the three and a half or will you take the Eagles?
Chuck Todd
This is a fun stat. I heard 12% of all plays the Eagles have run.
Tony Kornheiser
Touch, push, push, touch, push. Yeah.
Chuck Todd
12%.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah. I.
Chuck Todd
Have you been impressed with Eagles?
Tony Kornheiser
I think the Eagles are a very good team. I was more impressed last year, but it's very early this year. Yeah. I like the Eagles. I do.
Chuck Todd
Yeah. I'm just wondering, is A.J. brown still there?
Tony Kornheiser
Don't know. They don't go to him for anything.
Chuck Todd
They don't really throw.
Tony Kornheiser
No, they don't.
Reginald the Monkey
Football.
Tony Kornheiser
They don't.
Chuck Todd
You're going to. You're going to question me on this one, but give me McVeigh and the Rams here. I think they want this game.
Tony Kornheiser
Okay.
Chuck Todd
They care about this game. You know, this is a playoff rematch.
Tony Kornheiser
I will editorialize about the Tush push here and welcome your comment afterwards. I know a lot of people don't like this.
Reginald the Monkey
Yeah.
Chuck Todd
Apparently McVeigh's been complaining to the referees already about it this week.
Tony Kornheiser
Well, he's smart to do that because he thinks they start early. But I will say this. What football is, is a competition of strength. That's what it is. At the Lines in the trenches. As long as they don't pull, as long as somebody doesn't get out in front and pull, Jalen hurts, which should be illegal and probably is. If it's just pushing and they're stronger than the other team, good for them. I would not get rid of that play. I wouldn't get rid of the play. What do you think?
Chuck Todd
I. There's a part of me that I'm with you. That it look, you know, it's.
Tony Kornheiser
Football was. Yeah.
Chuck Todd
What it used. Right. What it was once. Right. When we were kids. You know, that was one of the things that made football. Football. But somebody's going to get hurt underneath that pile and they're going to ban it. Well, and I think the only reason the NFL didn't ban it is because it would have been a bad look to ban the most important play to the team that just won the Super Bowl.
Tony Kornheiser
Yes.
Chuck Todd
It would look like sour grapes.
Tony Kornheiser
Okay.
Chuck Todd
So I don't think it gets banned until, like, the Eagles, you know, have a less successful season on this. But I, you know, it isn't fun football to watch when they're 12%1. That's a lot of, you know, that's not. It's kind of boring football.
Reginald the Monkey
So.
Chuck Todd
And the league does not like boring.
Tony Kornheiser
All right.
Chuck Todd
So they make rules changes. They do make changes to make it more action, more scoring. By the way, speaking of rants.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah.
Chuck Todd
I. I don't get why Trump doesn't like the kickoff.
Tony Kornheiser
I like the kickoff.
Nigel
He doesn't like the kickoff.
Chuck Todd
Why he doesn't like the kickoff.
Tony Kornheiser
It's better this year. He.
Nigel
He thinks.
Chuck Todd
I agree. It's amazing.
Tony Kornheiser
I'm much better this year There touchdowns this year.
Chuck Todd
They made the kickoff relevant again.
Tony Kornheiser
I agree. All right, Raider, you pick three road teams already. The Raiders not a very good team. The Raiders are getting three and a half at Washington. Washington did not have a good game at all against Green Bay, but Green Bay is very, very good. And Washington's had 10 days off since then. Will you take the three and a half from the Raiders or will you take Washington?
Chuck Todd
What does Reginald know about Jaden Daniels? Is he playing?
Tony Kornheiser
We assume he's.
Nigel
That line has dropped, though, significantly.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah.
Nigel
Because of the specter of Marcus Mariota.
Tony Kornheiser
Is it three?
Nigel
No, no, that's right. It is three and a half. But it was five or five.
Reginald the Monkey
Yeah, it was early.
Tony Kornheiser
It was closer to. Okay.
Reginald the Monkey
Yeah, it was five or six.
Tony Kornheiser
Okay.
Chuck Culpepper
Reginald has no inside information about Jake.
Nigel
Daniel's knee that he's willing to share.
Chuck Culpepper
That he's willing to share with you.
Chuck Todd
That he want to share with me. I, I'll take the home team here. I'll take the Commanders.
Tony Kornheiser
Okay. A line change. A significant line change. Just overnight when I was writing these things down, Dallas was getting one and a half. At Chicago, Dallas is now giving one and a half. That's a three point change. Overnight Dallas giving three and a half. If something happened with the Bears that I'm unaware of. Did they cut Caleb? William, I don't. You know, what will you do in that game we all root against.
Chuck Todd
You know, I hear you and you know, this is like, you know, you know who the defensive coordinator is for the Cowboys?
Tony Kornheiser
No. Okay. Right.
Chuck Todd
And Ben Johnson owns Eber Flutes.
Tony Kornheiser
Yes. Right. Yes.
Chuck Todd
Look, I, I don't. I hate this game. I think the last could be last team that has the ball. So I'd rather have the Cowboys than the Bears. I'd rather bet on Dak than Caleb. Right. If this is going to be a shootout. But the better bet on this game is the over. I'm not, you know, I'm not. We don't, we don't do those over unders. But this should be a high scoring.
Tony Kornheiser
Yes, I agree with that.
Chuck Todd
Very. You know, no defense Cowboys.
Tony Kornheiser
That's all Dallas does is score a lot of points. Yeah.
Chuck Todd
Yeah. This could be. This could be quite entertaining. I just, I. In a close game I'd take Dak over Caleb. That's the only. That's. That's the.
Tony Kornheiser
I would too right now.
Chuck Todd
I mean but it's. When you see a line move like that, it scares you.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah.
Chuck Todd
Giant like what don't I know?
Nigel
Especially if there's not like a quarterback out.
Tony Kornheiser
Giant move three points overnight.
Chuck Todd
Moving through the zero.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah. Yeah. Kansas City needs to win at the Giants. Not a very good team although played well against Dallas till the end. Till Russell Wilson who was great through the lollipop and that was the end of it. This Sunday night game Jackson Dart who knows Brian Dayball who should be fired or should have been fired last year is now alternating quarterbacks was so crazy with Russell Wilson and Jackson Dart for about five or six plays. Kansas City is. This is a big number on a road team on a Sunday night. Mine is six and a half Kansas City. Will you. Will you give that many points?
Chuck Todd
I just, I can't. I'm not going to take the Giants. Right. Like that's. I agree. That's a lot of points. And we come back to the. They've. Chiefs have to win this game.
Tony Kornheiser
Yes. Yes.
Chuck Todd
I mean, when you start. Oh, and three.
Tony Kornheiser
No, it's over.
Chuck Todd
You don't make the playoffs.
Tony Kornheiser
No, it's over.
Chuck Todd
Your season. Yeah, that's, you know, Virginia Tech, it's over. But oh, and three. Right. You get fired, right. Barely. You know, 02, you get a set of steak knives, right? Oh, and three, you're fired.
Tony Kornheiser
That's right. That's right.
Chuck Todd
Third, give me the Chiefs land the points there.
Tony Kornheiser
One more and it's a great game. It figures to be a great game. The Monday night game figures to be great. Detroit at Baltimore. Detroit got well the other day against Chicago. Scored 52 points. Detroit is getting four and a half. This is a team that averaged 33 points last year against the defense. Baltimore's defense is nothing special. It's not. They're getting four and a half at Baltimore. And it's one of those games where you think to yourself, you know what both these teams need to win this game. This could be a really good game. Will you take the four and a half in Detroit against the hometown Baltimore Ravens?
Chuck Todd
You know that half point is everything, right? Because if you figure Baltimore, if you figure one of them is going to score late, right?
Reginald the Monkey
That either.
Chuck Todd
And if it's Baltimore, what you're counting, even if you have Detroit, you're counting on them to be behind by three, score the touchdown and win by four and not cover that spread.
Tony Kornheiser
I.
Chuck Todd
I'm gonna take the. I'm gonna take the dog. I'm going to take the Lions.
Tony Kornheiser
You're going to take the Lions. You're going to take six road teams out of seven games.
Chuck Todd
There is zero. The only NFL team with a measurable home field advantage lately is the Vikings, for what it's worth.
Tony Kornheiser
Is that right?
Chuck Todd
Just home. Yeah. You just start to see it. The records haven't mattered. In fact, road favorites in the NFL are doing really well.
Tony Kornheiser
So I don't think I did a.
Reginald the Monkey
Lot of road favorites.
Tony Kornheiser
Well, that's Kansas City. Kansas City. Yeah. Yeah, Kansas City.
Chuck Todd
But road favorites are been doing. Doing really well. Favorites in general. Underdogs are getting. I mean, this is why I'm going with a few more underdogs, because underdogs, the favorites have been killing it in the first two weeks, which means you would assume there'd be a little bit of a correction here.
Tony Kornheiser
We wish you luck. I don't know if Chris does the rest.
Nigel
I absolutely do not.
Chuck Todd
I know he does.
Nigel
He's had a lot of. He's had a good run. The packers and the Hurricanes, everything's coming up Chuck Right now. So he could do for a come.
Chuck Todd
Down to the Gator game. I'm going to. Oh, spending my Saturday night with my daughter down there against the gate.
Tony Kornheiser
That may be the last Billy Napier game. Yes. Right.
Chuck Todd
Sunbelt, Billy, baby.
Tony Kornheiser
I don't.
Chuck Todd
Do you fire early? Well, it depends if he. I don't know. I don't know. That's a.
Nigel
The UCLA coach is available.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, so is the Virginia Tech coach. I don't know.
Chuck Todd
I think it's amazing now how quickly these programs lose patience, isn't it? Because everybody wants to get the head start. This is all due to that transfer portal.
Tony Kornheiser
Yes. Everyone thinks they have restocked their team.
Chuck Todd
Place before that business.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, everyone thinks they've restocked their team and they're ready to go. And they spent a lot of money and here we go and.
Reginald the Monkey
Whoa.
Tony Kornheiser
What do you mean we're 03? What do you mean we lost the Old Dominion? You gotta go, son. So anyway. All right, Chuck. We'll talk next week. Thank you.
Chuck Todd
Bye now.
Tony Kornheiser
Chuck Todd, boys and girls. And if we gave you Chuck Todd just alone, that would be enough. But we do so much more than that. We give you a monkey. See the monkey, he's scritch, scritch. Scratching Watching his iPad Smoking and laughing Hanging with Bud Grantapp Tap tapping on his purple. Sing along, everybody. Nigel's going to the zoo, zoo Reginald's got the fight Sometimes he throws boo.
Nigel
Boo, boo and he's had too much Johnny Walker Blue.
Tony Kornheiser
Reginald had a good week Reginald was two and one Reginald's now three and three. You know, that's better than Chuck Todd. That's better than Jeff Ma.
Chuck Culpepper
Mount 500.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, that's better. That's where it starts. So what has he got? What's he doing?
Chuck Culpepper
Well, I went down to the National Zoo and he was very somber. As you know, he was very close to Robert Redford.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, that's what I'd heard.
Chuck Culpepper
What you may not know is. And he showed me some old photographs. He was originally cast as Carl Bernstein in All the Presidents I Didn't Know. And he showed me photographs of him on set in costume with Redford. And as he explained to me, he was unhappy with some of his lines. He got in an argument with the director and a producer, harsh words were spoken, some feces was thrown, and the next thing you know, here's Dustin Hoffman.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah.
Chuck Culpepper
So.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah.
Chuck Culpepper
But still love the movie. Loved Bob. And put aside his sorrow for a moment.
Nigel
Love Bob.
Tony Kornheiser
Yes.
Chuck Culpepper
Well, he could call him Bob.
Tony Kornheiser
Yes.
Chuck Culpepper
What we got the first match we gave him was this Thursday night game with Buffalo at home giving 12 and a half against the Miami Dolphins. Reginald told me a wise man once shared some great wisdom with him. Never go against Josh Allen. So that plus the fact that Reginald.
Tony Kornheiser
Showed me a picture of him whitewater.
Chuck Culpepper
Rafting with Bruce Smith, Dominic Haschek and Phil's mom sealed the deal. The dominator, yes, the dominator tells me he likes the Bills even with that big spread. Now the next match we gave him was Philly at home giving three and a half to the Rams. This was just a lovely photograph of him parasailing, I believe, in the Bahamas with Richie Ashburn, Chase Utley and Ron Jaworski.
Tony Kornheiser
So he likes Philadelphia.
Chuck Culpepper
He likes Philadelphia at home. Yeah, lay the three and a half. And of course the last match we gave him was the Washington football team at home giving three and a half to the Las Vegas Raiders. And this was just an old faded photograph he showed me of him in a tracksuit walking alongside Al Davis, John Madden and Lyle Elzado. I think they were mall walking. So he's, I think got time. He's going to take the Raiders.
Tony Kornheiser
I don't think the Raiders are very good.
Chuck Culpepper
They may not be, but Reginald has serious doubts that Jaden Daniels, if he plays, will be very effective.
Tony Kornheiser
Well, we will see. That's wonderful. All right, this week's picks. Lyle Alzado from Lawrence High School on Long Island. Yes, yes. This week's. And Yankton College. I'd never heard of Yankton College. College till I found out.
Nigel
Wait, South Dakota.
Tony Kornheiser
South Dakota. I'd never heard of it.
Nigel
He also, I believe in later years, post NFL played the like dorm head on Saved by the Bell. The college years, if I'm not mistaken. I may be wrong, but I think.
Tony Kornheiser
It was Picks with Chuck Todd and Reginald the monkey have been brought to you by FanDuel Sportsbook. Make every moment more. We will come back with Chuck Culpepper. Yes, I am Tony Kornheiser.
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Jinglesneyqueenzershow.Com and she plays in Chuck Culpepper. And we are so happy that Chuck Culpepper is back. Writing in the Post, it seemed like he took a vacation for a while, but now he's back and he's writing about college football. And we're going to talk about college football. Let's just start. I mean, if I was sitting in an editor's chair and I was asked what is the biggest story in college football so far, I would consider a whole bunch of them. And we're going to get to them. But I would say Notre Dame right now, because Notre Dame is 0 and 2. That doesn't usually happen. They have played two very good teams, two ranked teams. They played Miami at Miami. They played Texas A and M at South Bend. Chuck, what is their situation? What are their prospects? And we got a big playoff now. You can get in if you've lost two. You might be able to get in if you Notre Dame if you've lost three. Although I don't know what they've got left on the schedule that's attractive enough to get them in.
Reginald the Monkey
I think if I think it sets up a construct where we are going to spend the season looking at them and comparing it to last season, where on the second week they lost 16, 14 at home to Northern Illinois.
Chuck Todd
Yeah, terrible loss, which, which looked to.
Reginald the Monkey
You know, pretty much they looked completely doomed, I would say, at that point, because not only for that loss itself because, but because it suggested that others were coming. And then no more losses came all the way until the national title game on the closing Monday night in January and where they were, you know, within eight points in the fourth quarter and Ohio State had to do something to, to prevent them from perhaps coming back and taking the thing. So I think we're going to say this time, we spend a lot of time with the rest of their schedule saying, you know, if they replicate that and it certainly looks like it's feasible to do so, then we're going to say, you know, this could mirror last year and that they might even use the example of last year themselves to consider themselves still very much with a reasonable chance to get in, the committee's.
Tony Kornheiser
Going to want to put them in because they're the biggest draw in college football. And because they did that last year, they got all the way to the championship game. Notre Dame, they get the benefit of the doubt and they should, right?
Reginald the Monkey
Yes, and they, well, I'm more in favor of just sort of rating everybody as if they were, you know, had blank uniforms that were all the same. But I thought they should have gotten. I thought they got the benefit of the doubt. Last year wasn't as big of an issue, but I think they would get it this year based partly in the mind, the way it works on last year.
Tony Kornheiser
I agree.
Reginald the Monkey
You would say where you would say, you know, there's clearly enough there and enough caliber quality there to, to consider them.
Tony Kornheiser
Let's stay with losers for 600 if we could. It seems like a bad loss for Clemson, losing a Georgia Tech. I mean, maybe Georgia Tech's really good, but in my mind, in the Dabo Sweeney era, you'd never think that Georgia Tech would be Clemson. Seems like the bloom is off the roads for him. And he started whining, was fabulous. Big press conference, just get rid of me. You don't like, you don't like winning, then get rid of me. You know, and my first reaction, of course is, this is so great. Shut up. But I don't want him to shut up because I want him to keep doing this. He came so close to Nick Saban, you know, in that wine. He just didn't use the word rat poison. What do you make of, of that circumstance? Because he's not going to be fired. And what do you make of Clemson right now?
Reginald the Monkey
I think it's one of those, the hardest things to sort out in I guess all sports, but college sports especially, is this person who did so much for you, so much beyond what you could have maybe asked for beforehand, you know, not only all the playoffs, but six, six playoffs during the four team era and four of them to the title game. Yeah, you know, he won two, but we forget he also got there twice and was the runner up. So when the, when that kind of dims a little bit, but not too much, what do you do? Because there's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of grousing, of course. And then he, he does get to give the, the marvelous press conferences where he says, you know, just get rid of me and I'll go coach somewhere else. And I'm. What do you say? I'm only 55 and got a lot left in me. I just learning to be a head coach and so on and I'll, I'll go somewhere else. But you can't. I mean, you're not. I think people always have this illusion that you're going to go out there and find somebody who's going to be better than what it is right now. And I just think. I don't know, a lot of people point to that. They didn't adapt to the changing era and so on, but I think it's almost unavoidable in a case like that, and especially a case like Clemson, and especially at a time when how much money you have around your program is really crucial. And I know Saban was worried about that at Alabama in the latter years, so I just think there's so many factors involved in it, and it's just a slight dip that it's really hard to ascertain what it means.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, now you got to place that when you say didn't, didn't adapt to the new rules. The new rules came in like an explosion. Boom, you know, and he stood there and he wanted to do. To encourage his own players, saying, you're the guys we want. We're going to stay with you. Well, that was a mistake. You know, get in the portal like everybody else. All right. These are, these are not the entree for losing. The entree for losing is Florida. You know, Billy Napier is the entree at the moment. I don't know what the buyout is there, but I know that UCLA and Virginia Tech fired their coaches already, and they're not nearly as high profile as the Florida circumstance. What do you make of that? Who they got this week and what do you make of that?
Reginald the Monkey
Well, they've got Miami, actually. Yeah. I actually thought of, you know, Florida as I considered that sort of burst they had at the end of last season, something that told me that they were, they were going to be back this year, they were going to surge and then to lose to South Florida at home, that's a very good South Florida team. It's, you know, it's not the most unexplainable thing in the world, but it was, it was, it was an early sort of indication that, you know, another dip at the beginning of the season. And so, I mean, they, they certainly have and they've. In the five interceptions at lsu, it just, it just all seems like it's, you know, rolling the wrong way. And I mean, if they went, if they gave Miami, which is a powerhouse again.
Tony Kornheiser
Yes.
Reginald the Monkey
If, if they gave Miami some sort of good challenge or something like that, then. Then I would say, okay, they're actually back in the playoff hunt themselves. So it's not, it's not that far gone yet, but it has that sort of look and feel to it when, you know, when in these towns Everybody kind of gets tired of a guy and everybody kind of gets tired of the kind of the same explanations and same laments after each game. You can sort of hear it in the voices that it's. It's gone sour.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, I completely agree with that. I'm sure they're looking to see what the buyout is. And you mentioned Miami and you said it's a very good South Florida team, which I thought too. How does 4912 taste? Because that's what Miami beat South Florida by. And Florida right now, Chuck feels like Florida State last year that it's done. It's done early.
Reginald the Monkey
I actually thought that Miami score was. Was sort of surprising and it's how emphatic it was. Yeah, I actually thought it was much more of a. I hate the word statement, but I'm going to use it now. Much more of a statement that then people would have thought about just reading the score. And I thought, you know, that's a quality opponent and one that has just beaten two ranked teams. Boise State.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah.
Reginald the Monkey
Florida and at Florida in the swamp. And you beat them like that. I thought that really told me maybe even more than beating Notre Dame for my, you know, it was. It just seems like a team that's, you know, they could have gotten in the playoff last year was playing if they beaten Syracuse at the end and lost that and maybe are going to use that to just not, you know, not have any kind of fade from at any point in any game. That's what it felt like to me.
Tony Kornheiser
I agree with that. I mean, there are years when if you win the championship of the state of Florida, then you are in the national championship picture. I mean, there's many, many years for a long time. Miami, Florida, Florida State. Absolutely. Biggest win of the week, I thought was Georgia. That was really. That was really a good game. And Georgia kept coming back and they ultimately won. How good is Georgia?
Reginald the Monkey
I think the fact that they won in a 44 to 41 manner should be very encouraging for them, you know, because they showed they can win that. They showed they can win on the road and solve a problem like a 217 early deficit. I think that can do a lot for a team long term down the line to know that they can do that if necessary and to know that they can win a game like that. Everybody's worried about their defense. And that's an odd thing to say for.
Tony Kornheiser
Smart game. Yeah, he's a defense.
Reginald the Monkey
But that's the thing is that, you know, you look at the Georgia Tech game Last year, lots of points. The Alabama game last year. And of course they're going to play Alabama at home next weekend. So I think there's. It's a dual situation where, hey, the offense is kind of maybe even sorted out and on its way. But what's going on with the defense?
Tony Kornheiser
You would not think to say that about Georgia in the past. Let's stay in the, stay in that league, the SEC. I'm of mixed opinion about this. I like LSU. I love James Carville. He went to LSU. I love Booger McFarlane. He went to LSU. LSU's got a lot of people who I like. I'm not sure I like Brian Kelly, but he's in position now. I mean, this is. He had not been in position the first three years there because he had lost early. He has not lost early. What are your thoughts? And you got to run. I don't know. I don't know what the schedule is because these teams now have 87. The conferences have 87 teams. I don't know if LSU plays Georgia, if they play Alibi. I don't know how that's going to work. What do you make of lsu?
Reginald the Monkey
Well, we have to take into account that they're going to play Vanderbilt.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah.
Reginald the Monkey
That to me is one of the most thrilling, the most thrilling story of the. Of the new year.
Tony Kornheiser
They beat a really good team, South Carolina. I didn't see that coming at all. I didn't.
Reginald the Monkey
317 on the road. Yeah. So I. But LSU, I love, I love their prospects, really love the. When you have a defense that's playing like that and is that good? That apparently good, you know, that's. I think you can then build your offense steadily and that's the way it works sometimes. And I know they had some discussions there, I guess, about how, hey, the offense is not going yet, but that's something that you can get it going and it would. And when you look back on these early games where you won with defense, nobody will. I mean, nobody will pay much attention to that. It'll be a win, it'll add to the record and that'll be it. You know, it'll be just something that's thought of as, oh, we got through that and those mild hurdles of the offense, and now we're on our way. I really like their chances.
Tony Kornheiser
That's good to hear. And I'm sure that if you're not going anywhere this week, if you just mentioned that it's Alabama at Georgia next week, I assume you will be there.
Reginald the Monkey
Yes, there is one game that maybe, as the Brits would say, pips that a little bit. And that's Oregon at Penn State. Oh.
Tony Kornheiser
So, yeah.
Reginald the Monkey
And that is a huge early sort of test of what we think of Penn State and whether it is going to handle its, its great. The great praise it got in preseason, you know, in the great anticipation. And so here comes Oregon. Some people saying Oregon looks like the most complete team. It's a night game in Happy Valley and it's going to be really something.
Tony Kornheiser
If you look at the track record of the coach at Penn State, you're a little bit reluctant to go all.
Nigel
In on give me Oregon.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, you're a little bit reluctant. All right, we will talk before all of those things. Thanks, Chuck.
Reginald the Monkey
Thank you so much, Tony.
Tony Kornheiser
Chuck Culpepper, boys and girls. He's a great writer. Just a great writer. We will take a break and we will bring email and jingle into the show when we return. I'm Tony Kornheiser.
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Here comes Tony's mailbag. Got your email, faxes and your notes. Here comes Tony's mailbag. Gonna read some boring book. Hey, Nigel and Michael, you guys been good? Nigel, you want Santa to bring you a new email machine? Michael, you asking for a new pony? This is a terrible, terrible idea. Ronnie Newmeyer. That's so great. So Bruce. It's just so great. Bethesda Bagels.
Chuck Culpepper
Yes. Before we get to Bethesda Bagels, there was one movie when he did not mention in the list of fantastic rubber Redford movies I wanted to share with people. It's called the Hot Rock.
Tony Kornheiser
Very funny.
Chuck Culpepper
It's a Caper movie. George Segal 0go and watch it.
Tony Kornheiser
You'll love it.
Nigel
Can I make a correction?
Tony Kornheiser
Sure.
Nigel
So before you email in and tell me that Lyle Alzato was not the adult in Saved by the Bell of college years, you're correct. I always conflate because I Think they look alike? Lyle Alzado and Bob Golick. It was Bob Golick.
Tony Kornheiser
Okay, okay, okay.
Nigel
I just want to preserve my status as a person who knows the most about Saved by the Bell around the table, and I don't want your attacks.
Michael Granberry
Speaking of TV shows of a certain age, are you going to the Dawson's Creek reunion? Live reading?
Nigel
Is that a joke?
Tony Kornheiser
Yes, of course.
Nigel
Of course. I don't want to wait.
Chuck Culpepper
Bethesda bagels. We love them. You will as well. Just go to. Best location in the DC Area is nearest you. Then pop on in and you'll be thrilled.
Tony Kornheiser
Before we get to the mailbag, let me just say. Memories like the corners of my mind Misty watercolor memories of the way we were Scattered pictures of the smiles we left behind Smiles we gave to one another for the way we were that's Barbra Streisand, of course. And I am one of those people who. When I found out that Robert Redford and Barbra Streisand were going to star in a movie together, I just said, I cannot bear the thought of watching that movie. That movie must be terrible. And then I found out that Barbra Streisand plays a radical leftist in the movie, and then they fall in love and I go, no. Unbelievable. Can't work. It's really a good movie. It's really a good movie. It really is. Yeah. Thanks to our guest today, Chuck Todd. Chuck Culpepper. Thanks as well to today's sponsors. Remember, you can listen to us on Apple Podcast, Spotify and Odyssey. Get show through Apple. Please leave us a review from Todd Hodgkinson in Polk City. Not Polk City, like Poke Salad Annie City, Iowa. Did you know that we have crystals in our ears? And when those crystals become dislodged, they can disrupt the flow of fluid in the inner ear, causing vertigo? I know that sounds like a bunch of hocus pocus junk, but maybe that's why you're experiencing those sensations of dizziness and spinning. I. I am aware of that.
Michael Granberry
That's what happened to Liz.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, I know this because the woman with whom I'm related by marriage suffered from vertigo for a while, and that's what the doctor told her. She was able to get rid of her something symptoms by using something called the Epley maneuver. I know it sounds like more hocus pocus junk, but it works. In short, you sit at the edge of your bed to situate yourself and then lie down on your back. Then you take turns Moving your head 45 degrees to the left for 30 seconds, then 45 degrees to the right. Then you sit up slowly, I guess. You repeat as needed. Eventually the symptoms go away. Matt Kelleher has had vertigo. Told me the same thing and sent me a video tutorial. Yeah, the Epley thing. So, yeah, no, I'm aware of that. I think I mentioned this the other day because I thought about the crystals in my ear and I shook my head sort of violently from left to right and right to left and heard ringing. Literally heard something in my left ear. So I think that might be the locale, the location of where the problem is. I'm not sure. From Brad Loyal. Little since the ESPN Zone, days. After hearing about the high bills, the mice, and now the flies, I'm pretty sure the house has some air infiltration and voids that need to be sealed. I run PACE construction and design. Design and construction, which I'm aware of here in D.C. mostly working on old homes. We can provide some guidance or help facilitating next step diagnostics and sealing if that's of interest. This should go a long way towards cutting down on pests and lowering the bills. So we should get in touch with Brad, because that sounds really good. From our friend Brandon Borzelli in Lebanon, New Jersey. First, it began with squirrels dispatched from the little house for recon. Their goal was to lure the defenses out, specifically the dog. Then came the indoor invasion. Mice attacking every aspect of your living space, compromising your indoor defenses, siphoning off electricity for the little house, stealing precious food to feed the masses, Leaving behind surveillance equipment and crew to watch your every move. Now the aerial assault, spreading chemicals in the air, leading you to believe it's vertigo or old age. They're weakening. You sure the sensible thing to do is get some frogs? It's what they want. More animals inside your home. It's time to go to the mattress and send in Luca Brasi into the little house. Make the animals believe he's not too happy in the big house. Once he gains trust, you find out what they've got underneath their fingernails. Just be sure to tell Luca if they offer him a light to watch his neck, that's the cue that the hit is on. Okay. From Matthew. We live in a neighborhood with horse trails, and so we know where the horses come from and where they have last stopped by when they appear in our house. That being said, an omen of flies in your house symbolizes negative or decaying energy or a spiritual warning about uncleanliness or corruption. Whoa.
Nigel
Happy Wednesday to you.
Tony Kornheiser
Some consider an influx of flies a sign of Decay to disease or demonic influence. Others see them as a sign to improve hygiene, address negative situations, or even as a positive symbol of resilience and transformation. Flies apparently have a PR agent like to spin the Omen into something hopeful. If something dies in your home's attic or substrate, the decaying situation may cause them to do their fly business, pun intended, and then check out the home for a way out or other things to visit. Nothing like a shell, no pest strip to attract them to their sticky death as a symbol of your accomplishment. And thank you, Matthew, for this because I, you know. Yeah, we've got. We don't have that pest strip now, but we've got this other thing that Michael brought.
Michael Granberry
But maybe let's open some windows just.
Tony Kornheiser
To clear the house. Yeah. Death. Something dead in the house.
Nigel
It does not smell like death in the house. Just as note for people who are like, no, it doesn't.
Michael Granberry
You would not trust your nose on this one.
Nigel
That's a great point, actually.
Tony Kornheiser
Neil Ayervase, Littleton, Colorado Tony awakens with the room spinning wildly as if his head has become disconnected from his body. Then experience a simultaneous invasion of flies, apparently out of thin air. Having referred to expert analysis contained in the Exorcist and the Amityville Horror, it is true that no plug in device, flypaper, screen doors or pest control enterprise can possibly alleviate these maladies, which can only be attributed to a supernatural religious origin. Given our mutual background, I suspect that neither Father Damien nor his brethren can provide succor or succor. It is time to put out a call to the tens of thousands of Littles and Little Adjacents for a rabbi exorcist. Failing that, Carville must have numerous connections in the Louisiana voodoo. Apparently provide him with betting tips on Bowling Green contests from Malcolm Wilson and Wheaton, Maryland. Step one, pulverized limestone. Step two, move the body Al from San Diego. If Nigel infests your home with frogs, you get head lice, get boils on your back, and it hails in the dmv. You might want to head to the refugee Safeway, get a shank of lamb and put some blood over the front door. Justin Johnson, Arlington, Virginia. There's a well known quote that says, I wish there was a way to know you're in the good old days before you've actually left them. What most people don't know is that the quote refers the experience you have up until the day before an app on your phone has its layout completely changed. Yeah, that was. Well, they're back now. No, you can Find that.
Chuck Culpepper
Oh, you can.
Tony Kornheiser
You can find the television listings now. You can. From Ron Krajetsky, from Gaithersburg and Lewis, Delaware. Tony. On the app is the print edition. Go there. Sports page two. And there are listings. You're welcome. Yeah, that's what I'm gonna have. But it's back now. It's back on the online edition when it was gone for a week. Our friend. Kenny Ray. Fort Walton Beach, Florida. You seem to be on the fence about the new Washington Post app. No? Phil Spiegel, Maplewood, New Jersey. I've never had vertigo, but I've heard that Dr. Thorndike at the Psychoneurotic Institute for the Very Very Nervous in the Bay Area has made amazing progress with High Anxiety. High Anxiety. Josh in Greensboro, North Carolina, on September 15th. Podcast. You started by talking about vertigo, which I assume meant you were referencing the Hitchcock movie to bring in the younger demographic. As you went on about your new affliction, you said, the doctor gave me a chewable pill that tasted like rat poison. But it worked. Obviously not. Grandpa. You're still here, Charlie? Yes. Situate, Massachusetts. My father dealt with bouts of vertigo several years ago. It's really nasty. Laid him up for days at a time. The unpredictability made it worse. He tried all kinds of remedies. It didn't work. It was brutal. Desperate for an answer, he tried something I never ever thought possible for my dad. Hip hop hypnosis. Hypnosis. He legitimately hasn't had vertigo since his one and only session. It was over for good. Believe me, he was as shocked as anyone. But I'm glad it worked out for him. And I wish you the best on your journey to the inevitable hypnotist.
Nigel
If you go to the hypnotist, is there any way I could sit in on that? Because I would be fascinated to.
Tony Kornheiser
Bob Osborne. Fly on the wall, if you will, concerning your vertigo. I happen to be married to a physical therapist. I am a retired physical therapist myself who does cutting edge research on treatment of vertigo and balance disorders. She recommended a colleague of hers from Johns Hopkins named Michael Schubert who's also a PT who has taught with my wife in numerous countries. Besides research and teaching, he does see patients, plus he has connections with neurologists or otolaryngealysis. I don't know what that word is.
Nigel
Those are the ear people. Oh, is that otolaryng? Otolaryngologist, I think. I think it's ear nose. Is that what you call an ear nose and throat person?
Tony Kornheiser
I call them Ents. I thought everybody did. If he feels you need a referral to either one of those specialists. Hope this helps. We put that in the side.
Michael Granberry
Can help with your hamstring as well.
Tony Kornheiser
I would hope so because he's a physical therapist.
Nigel
A little bit of an age cake.
Michael Granberry
Try for six times.
Tony Kornheiser
Oh, this is from Sam Schmidt. We're getting. Check out my recent harvest of yard long beans. The name is an exaggeration by not by much. These things stretch from my elbow to tip my thumb. Very low maintenance and high yield. Just have a trellis for them to climb. They cook and taste like your standard string bean. Is it big? Can I. They're beautiful. Can I ask why he writes Dear Ron? Yeah, why he writes a different show.
Chuck Culpepper
That your nom de plume Tier Ron?
Tony Kornheiser
Andy Shaner, Sun Prairie, Wisconsin Question Question for the farmers who emailed them the other day. How long did it take your intern to plant 300 truckloads of potatoes? Michael Broadway, Virginia.
Nigel
He's right here.
Tony Kornheiser
What?
Nigel
Michael?
Chuck Todd
Here he is.
Tony Kornheiser
No, this is Michael from Broadway, Virginia. Who's written this? Oh, I was not referred. Okay. Dear Ms. Tony Pointing. I'm sorry. I was in Blacksburg, Virginia last week for work and saw the infamous Chipotle. I asked myself, tony needs an update. How bad could it really be? The answer was quick. When they declared no tortilla for my burrito, at least they offered a bowl, something the local football team won't be getting. I just how do you run out.
Nigel
Of tortilla and rice?
Michael Granberry
Well, they don't have a freezer.
Chuck Culpepper
No chicken, no beef.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah. Clark Gross in Knoxville, Tennessee, last month, you read a letter of mine regarding our shared troubles out of the sand and the Ping Bunker Club. Then next podcast, you read a letter from John Jordan from Clinton, Tennessee to reference my letter. If you recall, John talked about his father calling him about his high school friend, me, who had another letter read on the show. As a result, John and I reunited for the first time in ages. For lunch, we talked about the connective tissue of the show and how without it, the chances of us seeing each other were remote. I've attached a picture of us giving you Nigel, Michael, et al the TK Salute. It's really nice. And please tell both John Jordan's Justin Cazana, Mike Turner, Scott Turner and Tim Clay to lovely picture in Tennessee. Matthew Hatfield, Virginia beach well, the connective tissue this high quality podcast struck again at a recent high school football game I was covering back on Friday, September 12, at the Powhatan Field in Norfolk. As the reigning two time VHSL. That's Virginia High School League, I assume Class 5 state champion Maury Commodore has played host to the visiting Bishop McNamara Mustangs from Maryland. Precisely 903 to go in the third quarter and the Commodore is clinging to a 14, 7 lead. The public address announcer proceeded to make an announcement or two as I'm furiously typing away on my keyboard for the live game blog I'm providing online for my site virginiapreps.com when the statement don't flush the mouse was uttered. If only you could see the confused looks on the McNamara assistant coaches sitting near me in the press box. Fast forward to the thrilling conclusion 23 yard game winning field goal in triple overtime to lift morey to a 3835 victory courtesy of kicker Charlie McCoy who afterwards got to be interviewed by mia Hatfield. A McCoy Hatfield. Go figure. But no Feud over Stolen Pig. Oh yes, that man on the mic also made sure to supply a lachisaree as he departed, quite confident he will hear this and write in with his accounts of maybe the best regular season high school football game I've seen in 20 years of covering. Isn't that nice? That's great. Doug Tilton New Vienna, Ohio I'm anxiously awaiting the Friday show so I can hear from James Goose Farts Carville. Can you please thank his daughter for giving him his new nickname as well as a new password for me to use on Redford Tim Cree what do we do now? That's the last line from the candidate. Yes, candidates, a great move. It's a great movie Based loosely or all the way down the line on Jerry Brown. I, I, you know, I don't know. It's a great movie. And from Sam Fritz in Schaumburg, Illinois. Your TV is broken. Where am I going to watch CBS now? Got in your bike tent, everyone. As always, you wear white kid.
Chuck Todd
The next time I say let's go.
Tony Kornheiser
Someplace like Bolivia, let's go someplace like Bolivia next time.
Zoe Fitzgerald Carter
When did I give away the time I used to waste when did I feel those faces why you to go entertain myself Did I ever even ask what I wanna what I need Was I looking somewhere else when they slipped the world in my pocket on the screen Did I ever say goodby to the time to the time before the machine we used to run around the neighborhood summer nights and all the kids playing games never end we stay in the darkness just as long as we could we'd hear when they called us we were hiding in the woods when did we forget how to hide when they called did you ever ride a train Let it roll you in the night? Now the wheels are in your brain Turn round and round you're scrolling the blue light did we ever say goodbye to the time? To the time before the mach? We used to spend our time waiting at night look around and catch a night Tell a joke and make a sign like some leaves were trudging through the terminals and the bars like host of each other we just pass each other by cause I we're living the machine. Do you ever dream about a day when there's no news, no one to read about? Nothing's gonna take me away from you. We met in Barcelona we met in Ireland. We met in France. You read to me from your notebook Kept a poem in the pocket of your pants. I tried so hard to charm you with my ileuses and my flower dress. And on a summer night in Bristol by the boardwalk we kissed. You took me down below the waterline the waterline Rocks and sand, broken fish and line Broken fish and line sinking down Leave my footprints in the sand Disappearing below the waterline. Laced her boots and linen glasses Curly hair long and red Drank your whiskey from the bottle hold your cigarette. I never seemed to know exactly who I was when I walked into your room. Were you making love to me or some stranger you knew? You took me down below the water light the water light Rocks and sand Broken fishing line broken fishing line sinking down Leave my footprints in the sand Disappearing below the waterline. I just wish I'd been a little more real to you. I just wish I to myself.
Reginald the Monkey
Sam.
Zoe Fitzgerald Carter
I left at the end of summer. It was time for me to go. I wrote a letter from the airport. Get your photo in my drawer. You were everything I thought I wanted. A shadow, a vision, a ghost. You were cool, you were kind, you were sullen. On that long drive to the coast where you took me down below the waterline the waterline you. Rocks and sand, broken fishing line, broken fishing line I felt myself sink down lay my footprints in the sand this I fear it belong the water light ra.
Episode: Everything’s Coming Up Chuck
Date: September 17, 2025
In this lively episode of "The Tony Kornheiser Show," Tony welcomes a lineup of favorite guests including Chuck Todd (political analyst and resident NFL picker) and Chuck Culpepper (Washington Post sportswriter), for an all-Chuck spectacular. The show weaves together signature Kornheiser banter about home pests, health woes, and aging, with insightful discussions on NFL odds, college football storylines, and a heartfelt remembrance of Robert Redford. The episode is filled with humor, sharp commentary, nostalgia, and the friendly chaos unique to this long-running show.
[00:14–03:39]
“You wonder why the Nats stink. That’s why the Nats stink.” – Tony [03:34]
[03:40–05:02]
[05:02–06:23]
Ohtani’s Brilliance:
Tony heralds the two-way phenomenon after Ohtani hits his 50th home run and throws five no-hit innings:
“He's the best player of all time.” – Tony [05:39]
Cal Raleigh’s Feat:
Switch-hitting catcher approaching 60 home runs.
“Anytime the phrase is used in regards to you, you just did something better than Mickey Mantle.” – Chuck Culpepper [06:04]
[06:32–09:44]
“Cigna, which of course stands for calculated indifference. Gives no aid.” – Tony [07:57]
[09:44–16:07]
“Robert Redford was great. Just absolutely great.” – Tony [10:12]
“That's the top of the mountain. Yeah. Robert Redford.” – Tony [16:04]
[21:39–34:38]
Segment sponsored by FanDuel Sportsbook
“This is the fired McDaniel game.” – Tony [23:39] Discussion of possible coaching changes and division dynamics.
“In real American football, last time I checked, you do need offensive linemen, right?” – Chuck Todd [25:09]
“What football is, is a competition of strength. That's what it is.” – Tony [27:29]
“The only NFL team with a measurable home field advantage lately is the Vikings, for what it's worth.” – Chuck Todd [33:49] Suggests that road favorites are performing exceptionally and there may be a correction coming.
[35:29–37:54]
[39:06–52:07]
Notre Dame:
Discussion about Notre Dame’s 0-2 start but likelihood of still being playoff-relevant due to schedule and brand value.
“The committee's going to want to put them in because they're the biggest draw in college football.” – Tony [41:11]
Clemson & Dabo Swinney:
Is Clemson’s dominance slipping? Dabo’s post-loss meltdown is analyzed.
“He comes so close to Nick Saban, you know, in that wine. He just didn't use the word rat poison.” – Tony [42:00]
Florida’s Coaching Hot Seat:
With Billy Napier struggling and buyout speculated, Tony and Chuck agree the Florida program is in peril, perhaps “done” for the year.
Miami & State of Florida Football
Miami’s emphatic win is a “statement” victory, with Chuck noting that the championship in the state of Florida often predicts national relevance.
Georgia & LSU Outlook:
Excitement about Georgia’s offensive showings; curiosity about LSU’s schedule and potential.
“When you have a defense that's playing like that...I think you can then build your offense…” – Reginald/Chuck [50:15]
Big Upcoming Matches:
Oregon at Penn State called “a huge early sort of test.”
“Some people saying Oregon looks like the most complete team. It's a night game in Happy Valley and it's going to be really something.” – Chuck [51:29]
[53:01–66:38]
Advice for Vertigo & Flies:
Listeners supply medical insights, humorous pest control advice, and superstitions about Tony’s home life. Tony reads emails ranging from medical tips (Epley maneuver for vertigo) to elaborate Godfather references about dealing with pests.
Show’s “Connective Tissue”:
Listeners report on reconnecting with old friends and hearing show catchphrases at high school football games.
Redford Film Correction & Shout-outs:
Chuck Culpepper plugs “The Hot Rock,” and Nigel corrects a Saved by the Bell error.
The episode’s tone is Tony in top form: self-deprecating, slyly irritable, and razor-sharp with his wit. The dynamic among regulars is fast, warm, and peppered with inside jokes — a mix of old friends and rabid sports fans who never take themselves too seriously. Listeners new and old will recognize the seamless swerves from daily life laments and pop culture, into the depths of sports analytics and historical context.
This episode is a quintessential example of the show's mix: part sports talk, part social commentary, part extended kvetching session about life’s absurdities. It’s an all-Chuck extravaganza featuring NFL insights, college football analysis, and a sentimental, knowledgeable homage to Robert Redford’s artistry and American celebrity. Tony’s playful grumpiness and the crew’s quick, knowing rapport make for an irresistible blend — perfect for listeners who want both sports and the life that happens around it.