“How do you feel about Duke, Steve?”

Summary

The Tony Kornheiser Show

Episode: “How do you feel about Duke, Steve?”

Date: March 16, 2026

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Main Theme

This episode of The Tony Kornheiser Show is all about March Madness “bracket week”—the start of the NCAA men’s basketball tournament and the annual ritual of filling out tournament brackets. Tony is joined by his regulars (Chuck Todd, Michael Wilbon, and Steve Sands) to dissect the field, share predictions, complain (or gloat) about placements, and engage in their signature blend of sharp sports analysis and lost-in-the-weeds banter. The episode also briefly touches on the World Baseball Classic and the conclusion of the Players Championship in golf.

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Key Sections & Discussion Points

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1. March Madness: Bracketology Panel

a) Chuck Todd’s Bracket Analysis

[02:18–17:26]

• Chuck joins first, sharing he’s in Miami for the World Baseball Classic, not NCAA games (“If I could have gotten here in time last night, I would have made that game.” [03:08])
• The group laments non-MLB umpires in the WBC and the “bad call” that sent the US to the final; fun riff about international umps and crowd sizes.
• Both Tony and Chuck argue that holding the WBC mid-season could boost pitching quality, but Chuck notes owners would “go insane” if a star got hurt.
  Quote: “If somebody got hurt at the All Star break of a contending team, they would go insane.” – Tony [05:48]
• Bracket talk begins: Chuck identifies a couple of minor first-round upsets—Utah State and High Point, along with Santa Clara over Kentucky, and a play-in winner over Tennessee. He’s mostly chalk, believing “The top 25 teams are so much better than everybody else” [07:11].
• Chuck’s particular (and self-confessed) “homer” pick: Miami over Purdue, based on emotion rather than logic.
  Quote: “This is not my brain on, this is my heart on drugs.” – Chuck [10:21]
• Riffs on the tradition of Tony’s “mascot column” in bracket time and academic school “wins”: “How about the year that Vanderbilt had in football and basketball…they’re a baseball school but not football or basketball.” – Tony [09:35]

b) Chuck’s Sweet 16 and Beyond

• Chuck is full of observations about selection injustices (Miami “got screwed” with Missouri in St. Louis [10:41]; Vermont always gets a better seed than UMBC [11:49]).
• Chuck’s Elite Eight: Arizona, BYU, Michigan, Iowa State, Duke, UConn, Florida, Houston.
• His Final Four: Arizona, Michigan, Duke, Houston—with Houston ultimately winning it all. Quote: “Houston…I’m going to stick with him again. He’s going to break through.” – Chuck [16:17]
• On upsets this year: “I feel best about the idea that there’s a chance no double digit seed makes it to the second weekend.” [16:51]

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2. Michael Wilbon’s Bracketology

[19:17–36:42]

• Opens with post-mortem of the Players Championship (Fitzpatrick “had a bad 18th” [19:55], Cameron Young “seems worthy” [20:19]), with Tony admiring Fitzpatrick’s grace, Wilbon declaring “I was annoyed rest of the day he didn’t cash that in.” [20:41]
• Bracket talk: Wilbon is “very chalky,” especially on the Arizona side—embracing top seeds but picking Missouri over Miami, Santa Clara over Kentucky, and St. Louis over Georgia as notable first-round upsets.
• In the Duke region: picks South Florida over Louisville and UCF over UCLA (“I don’t love UCLA at all.” [22:48]).
• Agrees Iowa can take down Clemson and, like Chuck, chooses VCU over UNC.
• Picks St. John’s to make the Elite Eight, noting, “That’s what I don’t understand. How can St. John’s be a five?” [27:33]
• Key musings: Disputes the parity of seeds for squads like St. John’s and Florida; lauds the volume of “star” players this tournament and calls the field more interesting than last year’s “bore.” Quote: “There are players who are going to reshape the league… and I care about those players.” – Wilbon [32:16]

Wilbon’s Final Four & Title Pick

• Final Four: Arizona, Michigan, St. John’s, Houston
• Championship: Arizona over Michigan State
  Quote: “I’m just trusting that ensemble of just massive talent.” – Wilbon on Arizona [29:44]

On the World Baseball Classic vs NCAA

• Tony says the WBC should lead ESPN’s PTI; Wilbon disagrees, calling March bracket season “a day that eclipses everything else” [35:23] and noting “there’s a whole race of people…that don’t care about baseball.” [36:05]

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3. Steve Sands: Brackets, Golf, and a Bit of Everything

[38:36–55:09]

Players Championship Recap

• Sands gives a brisk Players Championship wrap: “It’s hard to win at any level…Oberg just did not have it yesterday and…cost himself the opportunity” [39:01].
• Detailed breakdown of how the winds and the pressure made the 18th at Sawgrass the toughest hole (“It’s so much better…in March.” [40:37])
• Offers a strong take that the Players is a “one of one, a great field, an amazing golf course…It doesn’t need to be a major” [41:21].

Steve’s Bracketology with Running “Anti-Duke” Gag

• His bracket picks are fueled by deep-seated Duke hatred.
  Quotes:
  • “Give me Sienna because I hate Duke. Hate Duke.” [43:07]
  • “My hatred of Duke basketball will always cloud everything I do.” [43:25]
• Picks High Point over Wisconsin (“My older brother went there” [42:08]), Santa Clara over Kentucky (“Santa Clara is good, man” [42:56]), VCU over North Carolina, and Penn over Illinois.
• Keeps Sienna going as the Duke slayer—“The reign supreme of Siena continues. Siena is gonna beat Ohio State. You know why? Because we hate Duke.” [45:29]
  • When Tony asks if his feelings have softened: “No, no. We hate Duke.” [54:02]
• Deeply personal bracket shout-outs—his family, friends, and former colleagues shape his picks: “Val Sands got her master’s at Medical College of Virginia, which is VCU. So you have to stay in the family.” [47:44]
• Final Four: St. John’s, Michigan State, Arizona, Iowa State
• Title Pick: Arizona over Michigan State.
  Quote: “I think the Cats are going to cut the nets down. Arizona is going to win another national championship.” – Sands [53:29]
• Ends his segment with, “He knows everybody and everybody knows him.” – Tony [55:08]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Chuck Todd on the NCAA field: “The top 25 teams are so much better than everybody else. I will be shocked if any double digit makes it to the second weekend.” [07:11]
• Wilbon on his approach: “I have no upsets. I am very chalky…” [21:36]
• Tony and Chuck’s mini-meltdown defending America East bracket seeding: “UMBC was the first 16 seed to ever beat a 1 seed. …We should have had a 15.” – Tony [11:24]
• Sands repeatedly: “We hate Duke.” [Multiple, e.g. 43:07, 45:29, 54:02]
• Wilbon on St. Patrick’s Day in Chicago: “New York and Boston are minor league when it comes to St. Patrick’s Day…not even triple A.” [34:47]
• Sanders on the Players: “It’s one of the five biggest events in the sport and it’s always exciting because the golf course is just so great.” [41:21]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 02:18 — Chuck Todd joins, WBC and general bracket discussion.
• 06:36 — Chuck and Tony get into serious bracket picks region by region.
• 10:26 — Chuck’s ‘heart on drugs’ Miami pick against Purdue.
• 19:17 — Michael Wilbon segment begins; Players Championship wrap and his bracket logic.
• 27:33 — Wilbon and Tony debate the St. John’s seeding (“How can St. John’s be a five?”).
• 38:36 — Steve Sands joins, opening with golf talk.
• 43:07 — Sands’ anti-Duke bracket picks (“Give me Sienna because I hate Duke. Hate Duke.”).
• 45:29 — The Sienna saga continues, driving home the anti-Duke sentiment.
• 53:29 — Sands declares Arizona over Michigan State in the national final.
• 54:02 — The ultimate: “We hate Duke.”

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Language, Tone, and Banter

The show maintains its familiar humorous, meandering tone, with wit, friendly jibes, and just enough sports-nerd specificity to satisfy devoted listeners. Personal biases, chiding, and inside jokes (“We hate Duke”; Tony’s gripes about TV broadcasting trends; academic elitism in college picks; Sands’ family/friends shout-outs) make for a distinctive bracket breakdown blend that’s insightful yet never self-serious.

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Summary Table: Final Four & Title Picks

| Host/Guest | Final Four | Champion | |-------------------|-----------------------------------|--------------| | Chuck Todd | Arizona, Michigan, Duke, Houston | Houston | | Michael Wilbon | Arizona, Michigan, St. John’s, Houston | Arizona | | Steve Sands | Arizona, Iowa State, St. John’s, Michigan State | Arizona |

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For Non-Listeners: Key Takeaways

• The show focused almost entirely on NCAA tournament brackets and strategy, featuring rotating guest experts with their own “bracket science.”
• All three guests see Arizona and Michigan (or Michigan State) as power picks, but each has their own quirks—Chuck homers for Miami, Wilbon gets “chalky,” and Sands’ love/hate (mostly hate for Duke) guides selections.
• Ample time is given to personal NCAA gripes, the impact of NIL in college basketball, and the cultural phenomenon of bracket-filling.
• Steve Sands offers a segment on the Players Championship’s place in golf’s pecking order, underscoring the show’s devotion to more than just basketball.
• Fans of college basketball, casual bracketeers, and Tony’s regular listeners will appreciate the blend of logical analysis, emotional “homering,” and absolute anti-Duke pettiness.

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Noteworthy, If You Only Have a Few Minutes

• Chuck Todd, on the state of college hoops:
  “I think NIL has made college basketball better.” [17:39]
• Michael Wilbon on TV’s tournament impact:
  “Television has given us in the last three to four weeks, all of the good teams all the time, and they’ve been worthy.” [31:40]
• Steve Sands, on the essential Sands angle:
  “My hatred of Duke basketball will always cloud everything I do.” [43:25]

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End of summary. Perfect for catching up before your bracket is due—or if you just want a reason to root against Duke.

Transcript

[Tony Kornheiser]

Hey, it's Tony. It's bracket week. We'll start off with Chuck Todd, then we'll see what Wilbon is thinking. We'll close things out with Steve Sands. But first, commerce. Hey, Sal. Hank.

[Steve Sands]

What's going on?

[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Michael Wilbon]

Yeah, you're right. Case closed.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Buy your car today on Carvana. Delivery fees may apply. Previously on the Tony Kornheiser Show. Doug Ferguson will join us from the Players Championship in Jacksonville, Florida. Well, they call it Ponte Vedra, so that sounds fancy. Jacksonville.

[Sal]

Happy birthday.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Is Jacksonville. Yeah. Yeah.

[Sal]

To sign.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sal]

Happy birthday to everyone ever born.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Except Tony Kornheiser. Except Tony Kornheiser. The Tony Kornheiser show is on now. Alrighty then, from Tom Snow in Gaithersburg, Maryland. Was that Tony or James Earl Jones on Friday. If Loving youg Is Wrong, I Don't Want To Be Right. Yeah, my voice is better today.

[Sal]

Sounds worse than I remember.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, it sounds really bad. My voice is better today. I am better today. I. I am not out of the woods yet. I'm still sneezing and coughing, but I'm not as bad as I was.

[Sal]

Better in time for the storms.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, just in time for Emmett. From Emmett Logan in Pinehurst, North Carolina. My wife Mary and I were in the car Friday listening to the podcast. I commented on your voice. Then she said something that I'm sure is a first. I think it sounds sexy. You go, old man. Asking for Mary. Can she be the official groupie of the show? It's funny. Certainly. All right, this is what we do on the days before and including the first day of the NCAA week.

[Sal]

Is it?

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's March Madness week. It's bracket week. It's bracket week. We just have guests to talk about brackets. That's all. We're doing three days. Monday, Wednesday, Thursday of brackets. Okay, you're forewarned. We're going to start with Chuck Todd.

[Sal]

I tried to pitch the Penn segment that was fell on deaf ears.

[Tony Kornheiser]

A Full Penn segment.

[Sal]

TJ park about 44 points.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Maybe we could get him or his family and they could come on the

[Sal]

show, get the ad.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I could get the ad. I could get Alano. Yeah. Asking for a ticket for Jan if he wants to Go to Greenville, South Carolina. So Chuck Todd joins us. And I had been told that Chuck was in Miami for the World Baseball Classic. So of course I thought he was there for last night's game with the United States. On a bad call. On a bad call. The United States advances to the final game, 2 to 1 over the Dominican Republic. A star studded game beyond almost all comprehension and a really exciting, tense game. And I wanted to ask you about the game and then ask you about how the seats are divided. You know, how many people, the Dominican Republic fans, how many were there, how many were United States and so on and so forth. And now you told me you weren't there.

[Chuck Todd]

No, I'm going to tonight's game because tonight was going to be USA Japan. When I, when I looked at the bracket, right time had. Had USA won their pool. Japan. They were. It would. It should have been USA Japan or even USA Venezuela. But anyway, no, I, look, I, if I could have gotten here in time last night, I would have made that game. But I'm looking forward to going to Venezuela.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Italy.

[Chuck Todd]

This is Venezuela in, in Miami. It's going to be absolutely chaos. I did have a good friend that was at the game last night and I said, and he's a big Nats fan. And I said, compare the crowd to being at a World Series game. He goes, I don't know because I never. He goes, because we weren't the home team, right? He goes, right. It was very. He goes. It felt like being in an away

[Tony Kornheiser]

game, I thought last night when they showed the crowd throughout the entire game, it seemed to me more for the Dominican Republic than for the United States. Good representation for both. But it seemed more to me that.

[Chuck Todd]

And I wouldn't be surprised tonight, I mean, yeah, I doubt there's any Italy fans. You know, it won't feel like there's any, any Italy fans there at all. You don't see Venezuela, Team USA in a final, right? That's not going to. That's going to be another road game for Team usa.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You don't think that Vinnie Pasquintino has thousands and thousands of people that are going to show up just to see him drink the espresso?

[Chuck Todd]

You know, Jack Caglioni, you know, who is going to be a name you've got to know, right. The next couple of years? I have a feeling. I think he's a Gator. So, you know, he's at least, you know, within a spitting spitting distance here of, of where his, where he played college.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, well, I mean, you got That I love this.

[Chuck Todd]

But you're right about the umpiring.

[Steve Sands]

Do you know they're not major league umps.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's what I asked this morning. I didn't know.

[Chuck Todd]

It's like, you know, there's an Italian ump and you know, it's like the fiba, right. You know, they, they want to have it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I didn't know that.

[Chuck Todd]

Throughout country. So. No, you don't have the best American umpire.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, that's the, you know, that's the reason right there, the argument for the automatic balls and strikes that pitch, you know, because it was.

[Chuck Todd]

How do you end a game like that?

[Tony Kornheiser]

So. Well, I mean, end a game like

[Chuck Todd]

that was a great look. You know, the thing about this wbc, I'm curious, do you think it would. We probably would have better pitching if this took place as a. As a replacement for the All Star game? Like imagine to, you know, a two week gap for the All Star week. All Star instead of one week. You could play this then and I bet you'd have better pitching.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I agree with you. But I think you would have more complaints from ownership. If somebody got hurt at the All Star break of a contending team, they would go insane. So.

[Chuck Todd]

Yeah, but if you're the owner of the Marlins, it's the only time you fill your stadium well.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So that's one owner who would like that. And 31.

[Sal]

I think what it could do to shake up the trade market.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It would be a big deal. That would be a big deal.

[Sal]

Another showcase.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Chuck Todd]

Well, I get why they tried it in spring training first. They wanted to see if it takes. Look, I love this.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Me too.

[Chuck Todd]

I really enjoy it. So. But I don't feel like every team has their best team because. Because of the pitching issue. Right. Because you go and all this stuff. So now I think you, you think about doing it in the middle of the season. You think about it, you see what owners do.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, that's what, that's what hockey did with the four nations cup. And it was a huge success. Huge success. All right, let's get to the brackets. We're going to start on the top, right, which is Arizona as the number one in the first round of that bracket. Do you have any upsets?

[Chuck Todd]

I have a Bob Ryan upset. Okay, so Utah State.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right.

[Chuck Todd]

And I got a high point.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You do. Beating Wisconsin.

[Chuck Todd]

I do. Almost out of sheer.

[Steve Sands]

Like I have so few.

[Chuck Todd]

I'm going to pre. So few first round upsides. I just think it's going to be a.

[Michael Wilbon]

It's the top 25 teams.

[Chuck Todd]

Are so much better than everybody else.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Chuck Todd]

That I have a feeling we're not. I will be shocked if any double digit makes it to the second. To the. To the second weekend.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, so you've got Utah State and High Point. You do not have Missouri over Miami. You do not.

[Michael Wilbon]

I can't do that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. Because it's your school.

[Chuck Todd]

Can't do that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Do you. By the way, do you have any idea. I know where Queens College is in New York. Do you have any idea where this Queens College is or what it is?

[Chuck Todd]

It's not Queens though, right?

[Tony Kornheiser]

I don't know what it is. It's called Queens College, but it's not. That's not the geographical designation of one of the boroughs of New York. Although there is a Queens College. Anyway. Okay.

[Chuck Todd]

I don't know. This is the column of yours I missed the most.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Oh, this is fun to do. This is fun to do.

[Chuck Todd]

And your mascot column, your Final Fours, that was.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Thank you.

[Michael Wilbon]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All right, we'll go down, down to the Michigan bracket. Any first round upsets, another Bob Ryan,

[Chuck Todd]

St. Louis and Akron.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You do have Texas Tech going out.

[Chuck Todd]

They're my Mac team that I believe can win.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay.

[Chuck Todd]

And I. Oh, and I have, I'm going with. I'm assuming SMU beats Miami of Ohio, but I'm going with that 11 seed to beat Tennessee.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. So whoever it is, I'll just write in. Play in.

[Chuck Todd]

Yeah, playing. Oh, and then I did one more. Santa Clara over Kentucky.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So that's four you've got in this one. I do have none. You had four.

[Chuck Todd]

I do. It's the other side that I don't have much.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, let's go to the Duke side. What do you got in first round?

[Chuck Todd]

South Florida over Louisville. And that's it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

South Florida over Louisville. So you're good. You're going to take Ohio State, you're going to take St. John's you're going to take Kansas, South Florida, Michigan State. The Big Ten has a bunch of teams in the top four. You have ucla. Okay, what about at the bottom, the

[Chuck Todd]

Florida bracket on this one I have another 11 over six. VCU over North Carolina.

[Tony Kornheiser]

VCU.

[Chuck Todd]

And that's it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You don't have Penn. You don't have Penn over Illinois. Really?

[Chuck Todd]

I don't have Penn. How did Penn pull that off? It shouldn't even be there.

[Sal]

A couple last second threes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, they really.

[Chuck Todd]

That was, that was a pretty good appetizer for the, for the day. For the sports day.

[Tony Kornheiser]

By the way, if you want to talk about like good schools, good academic schools. How about the year that Vanderbilt had in football and basketball? I mean they probably have never been in both tournaments before. They've been a baseball school, but not football or basketball. All right, so we're into the 16. Where we're going to get into the 16 here. We'll start on the right hand side. Arizona, Utah State.

[Chuck Todd]

Arizona.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. High Point. Arkansas.

[Chuck Todd]

Arkansas.

[Tony Kornheiser]

John Calipari, you know.

[Michael Wilbon]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Can't count him out. And this kid he's got. Can't count him now. Byu, Gonzaga, small upset here.

[Chuck Todd]

Byu, they have the best player in the tournament.

[Tony Kornheiser]

They do. Miami, Purdue.

[Chuck Todd]

I'm homering it. This is, this is not my brain on. This is my art on drugs.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Miami, Miami. Because I think Purdue's good.

[Chuck Todd]

I will say this. I think Miami. I'm just going to whine here for a second. Miami's the seventh seed and they get rewarded by playing a ten seed named Missouri in St. Louis.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh yeah.

[Guest Musician / The Trend Member]

All right.

[Chuck Todd]

They got screwed and they're a seven seat. Louisville, a team they beat in the tournament, have a better record than all of those things is a six seat. So I am, you know.

[Tony Kornheiser]

But you have Louisville.

[Chuck Todd]

I'm a little whiny.

[Tony Kornheiser]

But you have Louisville going out in the first round.

[Chuck Todd]

You're darn right I do. It's a little bit of my like just ticked off at that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All right, let's get to the Sweet 16 in the lower bracket. Michigan, St. Louis.

[Chuck Todd]

You know, it's really smart to gamble with anger.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, it's really smart.

[Michael Wilbon]

It's really smart.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Michael Wilbon]

Where are we going?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Michigan. St. Louis.

[Steve Sands]

Michigan.

[Chuck Todd]

By the way, Lewis had a different matchup here. I wanted to take them more but I mean Michigan, they're not beating Michigan.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I'm just going to say this if you think you're whiny. My conference is the America East. UMBC is a 16 seed and a play in against Howard. UMBC was the first 16 seed to ever beat a 1 seed. They beat Virginia. That, this, that conference. Come on, we should have had a 15.

[Chuck Todd]

A 15 should be an automatic.

[Steve Sands]

And usually when it's Vermont, they're.

[Chuck Todd]

Vermont's never a 16 when they win those thing.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, no.

[Chuck Todd]

They're always given the benefit of the doubt. They're almost always a 14 or 15.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All right. Akron. Alabama.

[Chuck Todd]

Akron.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh, you got Akron. That's a big upset.

[Chuck Todd]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All right. The actual best team in the Mac play in Virginia.

[Chuck Todd]

Virginia.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. And Santa Clara. Iowa State.

[Chuck Todd]

Iowa State.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okey dokey. Let's move to the other side of the bracket, Duke, Ohio State, Duke, St. John's Kansas, the Johnny's. You know, they must be pretty good. Rick Patino looked at Danny Hurley and said, not so fast, kid. Not so fast.

[Chuck Todd]

South Florida, by the way, they got screwed. Five seat.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, they should be hired now. They won the conference.

[Chuck Todd]

Not a lot of tournament for the Big East.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, not.

[Chuck Todd]

Yeah, yeah, they all got. They all got dinged a little bit more than.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Other than Yukon, South Florida, Michigan State.

[Chuck Todd]

Michigan State.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. UCLA, UConn.

[Chuck Todd]

UConn. By the way, this is such a blue blood bracket, isn't it?

[Tony Kornheiser]

UCLA, Kansas State, St. John's yeah, Ohio State. They've all won.

[Guest Musician / The Trend Member]

They've all won.

[Chuck Todd]

Well, St. John's the East Coast. By the way, this is the east coast bracket, the TV show bracket.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And I will also tell you, Duke, it's by far the hardest bracket. By far the hardest bracket. It's ridiculous. All right, Florida. Iowa.

[Chuck Todd]

No, I had Clemson there, by the way.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh, Clemson. Okay, sorry.

[Chuck Todd]

I have an upset. I had Clemson over Iowa, but it's Florida. Doesn't matter. Florida over Clemson.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Vanderbilt, Nebraska, Vanderbilt, VCU, Illinois, Illinois and St. Mary's Houston.

[Chuck Todd]

Houston. Houston.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All right, let's go to the eight. Start on that same side. Duke, St. John's I have a feeling you're going with St. John's no, I'm going Duke. Okay, Michigan, because Duke is going to miss these players. They're not going to win. They're not. They're not. You cannot, on an eight man team take two players off. Can't do it.

[Chuck Todd]

Well, they look well. All right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I mean, it's a weak league. They're in a weak league. The ACC got many more teams than it should have, as did the SEC. Too many teams. All right, Michigan State, UConn. We got UConn. Okay, Danny Hurley moves on. Florida State. Vanderbilt. Florida. Vanderbilt. Florida and Illinois. Houston.

[Chuck Todd]

Houston.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All right, go to the other side. Arizona, Arkansas.

[Chuck Todd]

I wanted to go Arkansas here, but I think they run out.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I'm going Arizona, byu, Miami, byu. It's the end of your hometown allegiance.

[Chuck Todd]

Well, I always do this. I always take Miami one round more than they probably should be.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Michigan, Akron, Michigan. And at the bottom, uva, Iowa State, Iowa State. Me, too. I think they're good.

[Chuck Todd]

They are. They.

[Guest Musician / The Trend Member]

I.

[Chuck Todd]

That Big 12.

[Tony Kornheiser]

They're good.

[Chuck Todd]

I mean, that Big 12 was some. Is something.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, I agree. I agree. Arizona, byu. To get to the Final Four.

[Chuck Todd]

Speaking of that conference.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Arizona, Michigan, Iowa State,

[Chuck Todd]

Michigan.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, two number ones. Duke, Yukon, Duke. Three number ones. Florida, Houston.

[Chuck Todd]

Houston.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, three number Ones. That's all we're going.

[Chuck Todd]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All right.

[Michael Wilbon]

Would you, would you, would you, would

[Chuck Todd]

you go chalk or no chalk this year?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, I would not because I think Duke is going to be hurt. I mean, I just, I think they're in trouble, but I think Arizona and Michigan are big bets to make. And Florida is the fourth one. It's either Florida or UConn. So when you pick Florida over somebody else, you have room to maneuver and take somebody else because they're not the lock that the other three were. So we'll go to Duke. Houston. Houston, once again into the finals just like last year. Arizona, Michigan, Michigan. Michigan.

[Chuck Todd]

And I'm.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Go ahead.

[Chuck Todd]

And I'm going to. I only did that because I couldn't bring myself to do an all Big 12 final. Although maybe that would have been a good idea. But Houston, I'm going to stick with him again. He's going to break through. How many times is he going to get here without winning? Ian Painter.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So how, how many times is it? Three already with different teams. Three.

[Chuck Todd]

Yeah. And he's been twice with Houston.

[Tony Kornheiser]

At least once last year. But I thought one other time. I thought one other time. Kelvin Sampson.

[Guest Musician / The Trend Member]

Yeah.

[Michael Wilbon]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All right.

[Michael Wilbon]

So you have Houston winning always here. I. I do.

[Chuck Todd]

I'm not going to say I feel. I feel best about the idea that there's a chance no double digit seed makes it to the second weekend.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I think that's a reasonable thing. Although you picked a lot of 12 fives, didn't you?

[Chuck Todd]

I think I picked one.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Just one.

[Chuck Todd]

I picked a bunch of 11.

[Steve Sands]

6.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, you picked Akron as a 12 5. You picked high Point.

[Michael Wilbon]

As to.

[Chuck Todd]

All right. I couldn't help myself.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right. Well, it's okay.

[Chuck Todd]

I want. You want some upsets, but I fear we're not going to have it much. I think not like years past.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right. I think the difference this year and last year for me is I've watched in the last two weeks all the good teams play more than once. More than once. And they look better than the other teams. You know, they really.

[Chuck Todd]

Welcome to nil. I think NIL has made college basketball better.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Now. I won't disagree with that. I won't. All right, look, enjoy the game tonight. Are you going to go to the final?

[Chuck Todd]

No, unfortunately. I got to work, but this was my son's spring break, so.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Good.

[Chuck Todd]

I'm sneaking this in for him.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Good, good. All right. And tell him we need him to plant things in a couple of months.

[Chuck Todd]

It is planting season. Right. He will be ready with potatoes yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All right, Chuck, be good.

[Chuck Todd]

Bye, guys.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Chuck, Todd. Boys and girls, we will take a break. Is Wilbon next? Wilbon is next to pick brackets. I'm Tony Kornheiser.

[Steve Sands]

This is the Tony Kornheiser show.

[Tony Kornheiser]

This is a band called the Trend. And their drummer John Woodruff says he's writing us for the Trend out of Manchester, England. We just released our new EP last week, I Don't Know who youo Are. And we'd love if you would play it on your fine podcast. We will promote you on our Facebook page, which has over 1,000 followers, which is more than we can. That's great. The Trend, or a Manchester band first came together in the late 70s, was signed to Universal Music Group on the DMCA label. In 2016, a promoter asked them to reform for a one off reunion gig. And afterwards they just carried on playing, writing and recording. Recording. They released a new album, Bella Vega, in April 2020. They have been releasing archive and new material ever since. Isn't that nice? Yes, they are the Trend and they're from England and they play in Mike Wilbon. Can you. Can you name another famous group from England out of Manchester? Out of Manchester. The Animals. That's right. Yes, I can. I can. For 500. The animals.

[Guest Musician / The Trend Member]

Well done.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, we have Wilbon. And before we get to the bracket, Wilbourn had a dog in the race yesterday. He had Matty Fitzpatrick, who has won the US Open, I believe, at the Country Club in Brookline. He's got one. And it looked, after the birdie putt, it looked like he was going to get another. I remember writing you after about 13 saying if he pars in, he's going to win. And he. He had a bad 18th. He had a bad. He had a bad 18, right?

[Chuck Todd]

Yeah.

[Michael Wilbon]

I mean, he did not put the ball in the fairway on 18. And that's what he had done consistently for four days.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yep.

[Michael Wilbon]

In the meantime, his opponent hits what is the greatest drive on that.

[Guest Musician / The Trend Member]

Ever.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, ever. Yeah, ever.

[Michael Wilbon]

It looked like, it looked like something from the natural 375. And so, you know, you don't. Come on, come on. Driver, wedge.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Michael Wilbon]

On the 72nd hole.

[Tony Kornheiser]

On a hole that everybody was bogeying. Everybody was bogey a hole. And let me say about Cameron Young, who, I don't know, he seems worthy. His dad's a pro, right. His dad's a pro at Sleepy Hollow. He was born to this. He doesn't bang up lockers. He doesn't do that. He seems like. Right. He seems worthy, right?

[Michael Wilbon]

Yeah. I don't know anything about him.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Nor do I. What do I know?

[Guest Musician / The Trend Member]

Nothing.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No.

[Michael Wilbon]

But, you know, I know about the other kid. And I was, I was annoyed the rest of the day that he, that he, that he didn't cash that in.

[Tony Kornheiser]

But talk about what he did with Cameron Young. Talk about what he did with his family. Talk about what Matty Fitz did with the family.

[Michael Wilbon]

He sought them out. He went over to find them to congratulate them and say, you know, your husband, son, dad was great. Down the stretch with pressure. I love the guy. I told. I texted you. Maybe I didn't text it to you. You know, I was rooting so hard for him. But you know what happens on 14 through 18 on that golf course. So one stroke lead doesn't really matter. Yes, it doesn't.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And then Oberg gagged the thing away. I mean, Oberg is early. Yeah, but much earlier than that. All right, let's go through the bracket. Let's start on the top right, the Arizona region. Give me all upsets in the first round.

[Michael Wilbon]

Let me see. I don't know that I have any upsets because I am very chalky with Villanova and Wisconsin and Arkansas and BYU and Gonzaga. I have. How about that? I have Missouri beating Miami, Missouri beating

[Tony Kornheiser]

Miami, Florida, and that's it. That's your only one.

[Michael Wilbon]

Okay, that's it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Let's go down from that, the Michigan bracket. Any upsets?

[Michael Wilbon]

I have St. Louis being Georgia. I have no, because I have Santa Clara beating Kentucky.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's an upset. So those two Santa Clara, you've got UVA advancing. You've got Tennessee advancing. You've got Alabama and Texas Tech advancing. Go to the other side. First round, other side. Duke. Give me any upsets in the Duke region.

[Michael Wilbon]

I don't have any in the first round. Let's see. I have South Florida beating Louisville.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, that's one.

[Michael Wilbon]

And I have UCF beating ucla.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Really?

[Chuck Todd]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. And you would know about UCLA because they're now a Big Ten sport.

[Michael Wilbon]

I don't love ucla. Georgia all year.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, Florida bracket.

[Michael Wilbon]

I have Iowa beating Clemson.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay.

[Michael Wilbon]

I, I, I'm tempted to pick Troy. Really? Tempted to pick Troy over Nebraska, which has never won a tournament game, which is in the tournament for the first time. But I'm picking Nebraska for one round. I have VCU beating North Carolina.

[Tony Kornheiser]

North Carolina comes into this not looking great. They do not look great. You don't have Penn beating Illinois. Really? St. Mary's Texas A&M. You have St. Mary's right?

[Michael Wilbon]

I have St. Mary's I do.

[Tony Kornheiser]

St. Mary's is good. All right, we're going to take it out to the 16. Duke, Ohio State.

[Michael Wilbon]

I have Duke winning, and then I have St. John's advancing. Okay, I have, I have Kansas. I have.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You can't have Kansas. If you have St. John's you can't have Kansas.

[Michael Wilbon]

Oh, wait, wait, wait. No, no, no. I'm sorry. Right, right, right. I have St. John's right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

South Florida, Michigan State, Michigan State and UCF Yukon.

[Michael Wilbon]

And I want to pick UCF. But I, I, I.

[Tony Kornheiser]

But you won't.

[Michael Wilbon]

I've got UConn down here. But I won't. DS I won't do it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Florida, Iowa.

[Michael Wilbon]

I've got Florida. Really tempted to pick Iowa there, but. And believe Iowa can win that game and believe that may be one of the great. One of the really nice matchups in the second round. But I, I got Florida advancing.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Vanderbilt, Nebraska.

[Michael Wilbon]

I got Vandy. You know, I got Vandy for one more. The Vandy. Florida matchup would be fascinating because Vandy beat Florida once already. But I do have Vandy beating Nebraska, and I have.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I have Illinois beating Virginia Commonwealth and St. Mary's Houston.

[Michael Wilbon]

And I have Houston beating St. Mary's

[Tony Kornheiser]

okay, we'll go to the other side. Arizona. Villanova.

[Michael Wilbon]

Arizona. No surprise. Arizona may be the team, you know, that everybody picks and gets knocked out. Maybe I, you know. Yeah, I was, I was tempted to. I'm really tempted to pick Arizona in the next round. We'll get to that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All right. Wisconsin. Arkansas.

[Michael Wilbon]

I have Arkansas. Have Arkansas with

[Tony Kornheiser]

freshman. Yeah, you love Deban. So byu, Gonzaga.

[Michael Wilbon]

Yes, I have Gonzaga. I have Gonzaga. Byu. If they. They don't, they don't have. Their team is not whole. And people know about who Duke doesn't have, who North Carolina doesn't have. They don't know anything about BYU because it's at least not in this region. And BYU has been hurt by injuries all year, including your second best player or senior. And there's no way they can beat Gonzaga.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Missouri, Purdue.

[Michael Wilbon]

I have Purdue.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And at the bottom, Michigan, St. Louis.

[Michael Wilbon]

Yeah, I got Michigan. I have Texas Tech beating Alabama, which isn't even an upset to me. Texas Tech.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, they've been. If they've been ranked in the top 10.

[Michael Wilbon]

No, even though they lost top in there.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right. I understand they're still good. Tennessee, uva.

[Michael Wilbon]

I've got uva. Uva going further than most.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Santa Clara, Iowa State.

[Michael Wilbon]

I have Iowa State. And man, Santa Clara is really good as well. But I got Iowa State.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All right, let's Take it out to the round of eight. Uva, Iowa State.

[Michael Wilbon]

I've got. I've got uva.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Really?

[Michael Wilbon]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I think that's a bad league.

[Michael Wilbon]

It's a bad what?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Bad league. The acc. I don't know.

[Michael Wilbon]

I don't think it's a good league. But uva, you. Uva played dead even with Duke the other night. And uva's lost, what, four games all year? Three games all year.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I don't know.

[Michael Wilbon]

Uva is really. Uva is really good with size. Feisty.

[Tony Kornheiser]

This helps you at home, too.

[Michael Wilbon]

Differently than. As long as they don't run into Tom Izzo in the first couple of rounds.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, it helps you at home.

[Michael Wilbon]

You know, they.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I like uva, Michigan, Texas Tech, Michigan, Gonzaga, Purdue.

[Michael Wilbon]

I got Purdue.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And Arizona. Arkansas.

[Michael Wilbon]

I got Arizona. And I'm really tempted, really tempted to go with Arkansas there, but I'm going to hold on to Arizona.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. Duke, St. John's I have St. John's yeah. So this is what I don't understand. How can St. John's be a five? They won the league and then they won the tournament.

[Guest Musician / The Trend Member]

And.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And Rick Pitino came back from the worst shooting exhibition of all time against UConn and smoked UConn.

[Chuck Todd]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

How can they be a five, Mike?

[Michael Wilbon]

I don't get it. You can look at the other teams that are on the four or five lines, though, and you can say, okay, they're the equal of St. John's it

[Tony Kornheiser]

is saying that the Big east is nothing. That's what it says to me.

[Michael Wilbon]

I mean, Houston lost in their conference tournament. Florida lost by 20.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, but Florida had put up big

[Michael Wilbon]

games, but they lost.

[Chuck Todd]

Yes.

[Michael Wilbon]

What do we have for me lately, okay, the tournament wasn't then.

[Tony Kornheiser]

The tournament is now Michigan State, Yukon. They did Michigan State, UConn, Michigan State.

[Michael Wilbon]

Okay, that's me rooting. As hard as I'm rooting for anything in this tournament is for Hurley to get smashed in the face.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, that's good. It's good that you say, are you clear on that? I like Hurley. I'm the other guy, and I love

[Michael Wilbon]

Izzo, and I'm sick of Hurley.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, Florida.

[Michael Wilbon]

Vandy, I got Florida. I just think the rematch, it's. It's going to be. I just think that's going to be another game that you look back at and say, wow, that was one of the highlight games of the tournament.

[Tony Kornheiser]

But I'll take Florida, Illinois, Houston.

[Michael Wilbon]

I got Houston. I really, you know, I've believed in Houston all year. Even the games, they've Lost in conference. You know, they look really good and they bounce back. And Illinois can win. Look, that's those two teams. Either one of those teams could win the whole thing. But I'm going to go with Houston.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All right, Florida. Houston to the Final Four. I got Houston and St. John's Michigan State.

[Michael Wilbon]

Michigan State.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. On the other side, Arizona. Purdue.

[Michael Wilbon]

I'm going with Arizona. Just trusting that ensemble of just massive talent.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And Michigan, uva.

[Michael Wilbon]

Michigan.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. To get to the final game. Michigan State, Houston.

[Michael Wilbon]

I got Michigan State

[Tony Kornheiser]

and Michigan. Arizona.

[Michael Wilbon]

Arizona.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh, you go against a Big Ten for yet another hometown team. Good for you. Yet another hometown team. Arizona. Michigan State.

[Michael Wilbon]

Arizona. And I, you know, you know, I'm looking at it and going. I don't really. I'm excited for the tournament. I'm excited to see. There's about a dozen teams I really want to see. And then that's not chalky for me. I don't. I'm not going to pick ones and twos only like everybody on our network did last night. I know that happened last year, but I'm trusting the tournament will go back to something a little more interesting. I found last year's tournament a complete bore. The other night, Matthew said to me that I don't remember who won last year. And we're both sitting there and I couldn't remember that Florida won.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So I'm going to make an observation about you this year. Last year, you didn't care about the men's tournament at all, and you were talking about the women's tournament all the time, which drove me insane. But this year, because I don't think the women's tournament, I think if you want to talk about chalk 12 1, 1, 11 gets there every single year. I mean, there's just no point. No point even watching until the semis. But I will say this. This year, since the NFL season is over, you have been totally gung ho about the men's brackets. This year, and I believe it is because television has given us in the last three to four weeks, all of the good teams all the time, and they've been worthy.

[Guest Musician / The Trend Member]

They.

[Michael Wilbon]

You're. You're. That is accurate. But that is not my interest. Television gives me every matchup because I watch. I got all the games in front of me, and I don't just need, you know, NBC, the televisor.

[Guest Musician / The Trend Member]

Right.

[Michael Wilbon]

NBC did I care about the players? They're stars. They're big stars who are going to be NBA stars for 15 years. Stars. There are players who are going to reshape the league around the new pillars, the SGAs and the Anthony Edwards and of course, win Byama and Catsl and those players.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And.

[Michael Wilbon]

And I watch those players. I've watched some of those players in aau. I've watched some of those players play against my son. I care about those players.

[Chuck Todd]

That's it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay.

[Michael Wilbon]

I don't. I don't care about.

[Tony Kornheiser]

But it's a different you this year. It's a different you this year. It's different.

[Michael Wilbon]

Well, because. Because the players matter this year to me. The players did not matter last year. I didn't care about them. I cared about the women's players last year.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What is. By the way, have you. I didn't even know there was a women's World cup or whatever doing. Now we're winning these games by 60 points and Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark are teammates.

[Michael Wilbon]

It's interesting on the US Team. I'm not paying attention to that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, well, they put it on tv, so. I mean, they put the highlights on. So I look at it. It's right on. All right, one A journalism question, and then you got to go because we got to go. We got to go. Journalism question.

[Michael Wilbon]

Okay.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I said this to Michael this morning. If I ran pti, I would make the World Baseball Classic the lead, not the ncaa, because we're going to do the NCAA all day and all week in the next three weeks. I think the World Baseball Classic is worth the lead. What do you think?

[Michael Wilbon]

It's worth it, but I wouldn't do it just because it's interesting.

[Steve Sands]

Tony.

[Michael Wilbon]

I've been, you know, talking to people about the World Baseball Classic, and I watched. I haven't watched. I've watched some of the games. Not the US because, you know, who needs. I mean, the players on these other teams on Venezuela and the Dominican Republic are every bit as famous, if not more players in the U.S. absolutely. So I don't need the U.S. to drive me to the TV. I like it a lot.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Me, too.

[Michael Wilbon]

But I wouldn't. It's not.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You wouldn't lead with it.

[Michael Wilbon]

Today is a different deal. Today is a day. You know, it's like I was in Chicago over the weekend and I forgot something on Saturday morning. I woke up and I was gonna run some errands downtown where I live, and it's. Chicago looks like a snow globe on Saturday. And I wake up, the wind's blowing, it's 34 degrees. I go outside and I think, oh, my God, it's just another Saturday and there are million people with beer cups, walking around.

[Tony Kornheiser]

We had the Big ten tournament.

[Michael Wilbon]

No, no, no, no, no. See, you don't.

[Chuck Todd]

You don't even.

[Michael Wilbon]

You know, you're from New York. You think that New York and Boston celebrate St. Patrick's Day. New York and Boston are minor league when it comes to St. Patrick's Day. New York, Boston are not even triple A. They're double A when it comes to you. I should have sent pictures of the city of Chicago, which does something on St. Patrick's Day. Again, New Yorkers and Bostonians who think they know what it is have no idea. And it's like it's a day that eclipses everything else that you think is in order.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, they put the river green. They make the river green.

[Michael Wilbon]

The river green is just the setting. That's what you guys pay attention to. That's not the story. It's the visual. It's the symbolic nature of the story. This day is like that, with the brackets. The brackets. People who don't pay attention, who don't know Acuff from Debonza, they're gonna pay attention to sports on television today. And it ain't the World Baseball Classic. It's not the World Baseball Classic. Doesn't have that kind of pull. And so we just wish we have again. You and I are neck deep in sports all the time. We care about baseball, Tony. Their generation was sadly. You know, there's what hurts me. There's a whole race of people. I belong to it. That don't care about baseball as an audience. It makes me sad. I'm not saying that only those people, my people watch pti. I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is when you have that kind of diminished audience, okay, Because I know those people have a bracket. They're not watching baseball, but they have a bracket.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, well, I'm just saying, on a news judgment thing, I would go the other way, but you make fun, you make fine points. All right, I'll see you later.

[Michael Wilbon]

All right, Tom.

[Tony Kornheiser]

See you later. We will take a break. Steve Sands. When we return, I'm Tony Kornheiser. My day kicks off with a refreshing Celsius energy drink, then straight to the gym, pre K pickup, back home to meal prep. Time for my fire station shift. One more Celsius. Gotta keep the lights on when the three alarm hits. I'm ready. Celsius live fit. Go grab a cold, refreshing Celsius at your local retailer or locate [e-mail]

[Guest Musician / The Trend Member]

an

[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Chuck Todd]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Steve Sands]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

Saying that out loud is crazy. Like that is huge.

[Sal]

But all the cool opportunities could pull us apart.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's causing issues in everyone's marriage.

[Sal]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Steve Sands]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Sal]

Send us your music by emailing it to jingles@tony kwanzershow.com and this is my friendly reminder. We have a tournament challenge at the ESPN Tournament Challenge. The group is Tony Konizer Show 2026. Make sure it has the year. I'm letting you put in two entries and I do believe it's still password protected but I put that in the little bio and it's TKI listen which can also get you some new gear [e-mail] for the spring.

[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Sal]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

Sands who for the third week in a row saw a leader blow up late. This was at least Daniel Berger got to a playoff. This was another Shane Lowry situation. Two in the water by Oberg actually earlier than Shane Lowry did it. I mean he just got out by the 13th or 14th hole. What did you make of that?

[Steve Sands]

Sports Tony? There's nothing like it. Yeah, it's the best, man. It's just incredible. I mean it's, it's, it's hard to win. It's hard to win at any level. Little League all the way up to the bigs and whether it's a bad called strike in the WBC baseball game or whether it's coming down the stretch trying to finish off a PGA Tour event, it's really, really tough. And Ludwig Oberg just did not have it yesterday and he, he completely melted down there in the middle part of that round and cost him an opportunity at the end.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And Wilbon who's been on already on the show had a horse in the race. He had Matthew Fitzpatrick who went to Northwestern for a year and who he says is a wonderful kid and he on the 18th, misplayed his driver, you know, couldn't. Couldn't get a par in that hole. So many people bogeyed that hole. And Cameron Young was great on that hole, right?

[Steve Sands]

No, he piped it, what, 374 right down the middle with a slight draw. That wind was coming out of the right. Ocean is to the right of 18. The wind was coming out of the right, and Fitzpatrick thought he hit a great shot. If you look at his tee shot again on a replay, he picked the tee up almost right away. He thought that he put it right down the middle and the wind just didn't catch it a little bit. It went into the pine straw. When you go into that pine straw, right, the water is left.

[Michael Wilbon]

You're dead there.

[Steve Sands]

If you go right and into that pine straw around the trees, it's really tough to make a four. He gave himself an opportunity. He just didn't make that putt.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's a really hard hole. That. That was the hardest hole on the course, right?

[Chuck Todd]

It is.

[Steve Sands]

It's a very hard hole. And it's so much better, Tony, that it's in March, remember, for about 10 years it was in May. The original design by Pete Dye was to have 16 the parts the best, most exciting finish in golf. The par five 16th is reachable and it's downwind. Okay. And then 17 swirls around and then 18 is into the wind in March. In May, it's the opposite wind. It's a much warmer wind coming from the. So yesterday, 18 was playing very, very difficult. Put that on top of the pressure of trying to win one of the biggest events of the year. And it's easy to see why. 18 is the most difficult hole on the golf course.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So wonderful tournament to watch. I'm sure you enjoyed it. You know, all four days. It was wonderful. All four days. You ready to go to the brackets?

[Chuck Todd]

It's great.

[Steve Sands]

Last thing on the players, Tony. They need to stop thinking about even contemplating talking about being a major championship. It's one of one. It's a great field. It's an amazing golf course. Anybody can win on it. And it's not a major championship. It doesn't need to be a major championship. It is. No, there are no amateurs in it. There are no old time major champions who won it before. It's just pure PGA Tour greatness to me. It's one of one. They ought to stop thinking about being a major championship and just be what it is. It's one of the five biggest events in the sport and it's always exciting because the golf course is just so great.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's really a great. As you say, the last three holes are just wonderful to watch. All right, let's start with the top right, Arizona. Any upsets at all in the first round?

[Steve Sands]

Yeah, I'm gonna go with number nine over number eight there, Utah State. Not because Kevin Willard quit on Maryland, but just because I think Utah State is there. High Point is going to beat Wisconsin because my older brother David went to High Point and I think High Point is going to win that one. Okay, I think Missouri is going to beat Miami. A 10 7. That's pretty much it, the first round.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okey dokey. Let me just fill these things in. Let's go to the bottom there. The Michigan bracket, same question.

[Steve Sands]

I'll take St. Louis to beat Georgia. No offense to my sister Michelle who went to Georgia, But I think St. Louis is better. Let's see. I do think Santa Clara is going to be Kentucky. Santa Clara is good, man. You watch Santa Clara play basketball. They are really good.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, I'm filling in for you. Texas Tech, you have over Akron, the 12 fives. A lot of people go the other way. Let's go to the other end of the bracket. Let's go to the Duke side. What do you got in the first round?

[Steve Sands]

Well, you know, I do this every year with you, Tony. Every single year. Give me Sienna because I hate Duke. Hate Duke.

[Chuck Todd]

You gotta hate Duke.

[Steve Sands]

You know you hate Duke.

[Chuck Todd]

You'll love it.

[Steve Sands]

I love Lefty Giselle who went to Duke and Val Sands, his father, Brandi Davis went to Duke. But my hatred of Duke basketball will

[Tony Kornheiser]

always clouds everything you do.

[Steve Sands]

It clouds everything I do. And then on the bottom of that side. Yeah, another hate Duke moment. I live in Orlando, Florida. I would love to take UCF over UCLA in the 107 game. However, the head coach of the Golden Knights is Johnny Dawkins who plays for Duke for Coach K a Duke. And we hate Duke. So we're going to go with number seven, UCLA. So no upset there other than Siena. A16 beating A1 because we hate Duke. That's it on that side.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, so you got. You got Ohio state, you got St. John.

[Michael Wilbon]

Yes. Oh, and by the way, the other

[Steve Sands]

reason we hate Duke is because Sienna good friend Jimmy Patsos.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes.

[Steve Sands]

Used to coach Sienna. And that's another reason we like Sienna now.

[Tony Kornheiser]

They are coached now by McNamara, a Syracuse guy. You have no hatred for Syracuse?

[Steve Sands]

I love Syracuse. I used to work in Utica, New

[Michael Wilbon]

York when I was a kid at

[Steve Sands]

the ABC Affiliate used to go over. And Jim Boeheim was so good to me as a kid. He would never remember this, nor should he, but Jim Bayham is a regular with you guys on pti. I love Jim Boeheim. No, I love Syracuse. Love orange. Love dinosaur barbecue. Get it up.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, Florida bracket, any upsets? First round,

[Steve Sands]

first round. Lived in Richmond, Virginia for three years. That's where I met Val Sands. So I'll go with VCU over North Carolina. Don't hate Carolina nearly as much as I hate Duke basketball, but no thanks on Carolina. In honor of cheesesteaks in Philadelphia and your son Michael.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes.

[Steve Sands]

Illinois.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes.

[Steve Sands]

Take Penn over Illinois.

[Sal]

How about that for a weekend overtime versus Harvard and Yale.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Steve Sands]

It's incredible. Watched Ivy Madness yesterday. The greatest basketball player in the history of Pine Forest Camp, John Schwartz, played at Penn, and he's still a good friend of mine. We'll go with the Quakers there.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. And so that's. Okay, that's it. So now we're going to stay on that side to get to the Sweet sixteen. Sienna, Ohio State.

[Steve Sands]

The reign supreme of Siena continues. Sienna is gonna beat Ohio State.

[Chuck Todd]

You know why?

[Tony Kornheiser]

No. Why?

[Steve Sands]

Because we hate Duke.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay.

[Chuck Todd]

All right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's Good to know. St. John's Kansas.

[Steve Sands]

Come on, man. Patino is gonna bust out the white suit and the white tie and the white shoes, and he's gonna advance to the Sweet sixteen. Love, Patino.

[Tony Kornheiser]

How can they be a five? Shouldn't they be higher?

[Steve Sands]

How can they be a five? That is a. I didn't like that scene.

[Chuck Todd]

I think they.

[Steve Sands]

The committee did an overall very good job, by the way. I do think St. John's a little light as a five.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Steve Sands]

And I don't trust that Peterson kid for kids. He's a great, great player, but he

[Tony Kornheiser]

doesn't always get on the court.

[Steve Sands]

Louisville, Michigan State in college. It's weird.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Louisville, Michigan State.

[Steve Sands]

Love, love, izzo. Love, love, love is. Especially this time of year. I'll take Michigan State to advance, And I think UConn, even though Hurley's a maniac on the sideline, although that is the maniac bracket there. Ucla, Mick Cronin and Billy and Hurley coaching on the same court could be just absolutely maniacal there. But I think UConn advances.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. Florida, Clemson.

[Steve Sands]

Florida's too good. I love Clemson. They're all that said, is now in the. Sid is now in the Clemson hall of Fame. Is a good friend of mine, Tim Bure. Tim Raspberry Beret. We love Tim. He's going to be in Tampa, where we'll be this year, this week for the Valspar. I'm going to go to the game on Friday, but Clemson's going to lose to Florida.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I have to say this. People think the socialite knows people. Steve Sands knows everybody. Steve Sands knows everything.

[Steve Sands]

Listen, Greg Garcia is a dear, dear friend of mine. We text and talk all the time and no one can be as funny as him. So I'm just trying to throw out some stupid nuggets there just to match his ridiculousness. Vandy Nebraska, take the Huskers. My first job ever in television was in Scotts Bluff, Nebraska. And you don't want to know what the salary was. Needed a lot of help from Bonnie and Ed there when we were out there in Scottsbluff, Nebraska. But I'll take Nebraska to win not only its first game over Troy ever in the NCAA tournament, they're going to win another game over Vanderbilt.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All right, vcu, Penn.

[Steve Sands]

I'm sorry, Michael.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's okay.

[Chuck Todd]

I'm going to go.

[Steve Sands]

I'm going to go with vcu. Val Sands got her master's at the Medical College of Virginia, which is vcu. So you have to stay in the family there.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. And St. Mary's Houston.

[Steve Sands]

And she married a sportscaster. I mean, it's a very questionable decision as someone who got a master's from medical school. But we digress. We'll take Houston because we'll be in Houston next week and I think it'd be a lot of fun over the sweet 16 when we're in Houston for the PGA Tour eventually to be watching the Cougs play again.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All right, let me move to the other side. Arizona, Utah State.

[Steve Sands]

Arizona. Utah State.

[Chuck Todd]

Where are we?

[Steve Sands]

We'll go Arizona. Arizona is really good, right? Love Arizona. I think Arkansas is going to end my brother's dream. David Sands dream dies with Arkansas. Calipari is going to wear that weird like Lindsay Nelson coat.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Steve Sands]

That he likes to wear. I think Gonzaga beats byu. I'm a big mark few guy. I think his zag is going to get to the Sweet sixteen. And Purdue coming off that big, Big ten win over Michigan. I think Purdue is going to be Missouri and head to the Sweet 16.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Michigan, St. Louis.

[Steve Sands]

Michigan, St. Louis. The Billikens will, will die on a vine there. Michigan advances to the Sweet 16. Alabama, best dressed coach in America, Nate Oates. Look at this. I mean, the sport coats on that guy.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You know why he does that? You know that's an homage to the previous guy.

[Steve Sands]

Oh, not Wim Sanderson.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes. Yes.

[Guest Musician / The Trend Member]

Come on.

[Tony Kornheiser]

They're prettier than his stuff. But that. That's an homage to Wimp Sanderson.

[Guest Musician / The Trend Member]

Yes.

[Steve Sands]

You remember, remember when. When Wimp was the coach there and they used to have the plaid in the middle of the court at center court because of that? Oh, I didn't know that's why Nate did that, because I just figured he did it because the best dressed football coach of all time with the sport coast was Saban. So I figured when Nate Oates went there, he figured he would go that route.

[Michael Wilbon]

I think Nate Oates.

[Steve Sands]

I'm not a closed horse guy, but my.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He's a good guy. He wears beautiful clothing.

[Steve Sands]

Does he ever.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Tennessee, Virginia.

[Steve Sands]

Man, I'd love to go because of my dear friend Bob Senko and his son going to Tennessee. I would love to go with the Vols, but Rick Barnes snagged Kevin Durant away when he was at Texas from Gary Williams at Maryland. And I still haven't gotten over it or whoever it was in Maryland at the time. I'm going with UVA there.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. And Santa Clara. Iowa State.

[Steve Sands]

The Cyclones. The Cyclones are really, really good.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All right, let's go to the Elite Eight with. Let's start at the top. Arizona, Arkansas.

[Steve Sands]

Arizona will end John Calipari's run there. Arizona is really, really good. Like I said, Gonzaga, Purdue, and I think Purdue is going to win. I love Mark Few, I love Gonzaga, and I like that they're in a kind of an underdog role this year. Nobody's really talking about him a lot.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's right.

[Steve Sands]

But I think Purdue is really, really good. I think Matt Painter is a great, great coach.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All right, Michigan, Alabama.

[Steve Sands]

Michigan's going to win that one. I love Nate Oates and the way he dresses, but Michigan is big, big, big man. Are they huge. And I think Michigan's going to advance there.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Virginia, Iowa State, Iowa State.

[Steve Sands]

Iowa State will take care of business over the Cavaliers.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, let's go to the other side. You still have Siena, but you got him against St. John's

[Steve Sands]

I love the Sienna piece is so good. God, we hate Duke basketball. My God, we hate Duke basketball. We'll take Pitino there. Pitino will end Sienna's run, and Pitino and St. John's will get to the Elite A. Michigan State for last year's craziness, lost to Calipari in Arkansas. Patino will advance this time.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Michigan State, UConn.

[Michael Wilbon]

Izzo.

[Steve Sands]

Give me Izzo over Louisville. It's going to be Izzo and Pitino in the elite 8. How good is that Tony.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Florida. Nebraska.

[Steve Sands]

The Gators advance. Tony Golden. Todd golden, the coach, really, really good. His assistant coach last year, Kevin Hovdi, ended up going to Columbia, where he rehired Brian Sands to be an assistant coach at the time, before Brian moved on from Columbia. So I'm going to stay with the Gators to win, and I think they're going to advance.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay? Vcu. Houston.

[Steve Sands]

Houston. Even though I love the fact that you say Houston and don't pronounce the H, I love that Houston. We'll go Euston over vcu.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So you grow up in New York, it's Houston Houston or it's Houston Houston Street.

[Steve Sands]

When you go to dinner, is it Houston's or Houston's?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Houston. All right. St. John's Michigan State to get to the finals.

[Steve Sands]

Michigan State. Michigan State. Thomas is going to go back to the Final Four, okay? He's going to win that game.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Florida. Houston.

[Steve Sands]

I think Houston or Houston is going to win that game, and they're going to end the Gators run. They're going to try to go back to back again like Billy Donovan did, but Houston is going to advance.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay? Arizona. Purdue.

[Steve Sands]

Arizona is going to end Purdue's reign, and Arizona is going to go back to the Final Four. And Steve Kerr can't win with the warriors, but his alma mater can get to the Final Four.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Michigan. Iowa State.

[Steve Sands]

Iowa State's going to upset Michigan. Iowa State's going to get back. Are they going to get back to Johnny Horror, get to the Final Four?

[Chuck Todd]

Tony?

[Tony Kornheiser]

I don't think so. I don't think so.

[Steve Sands]

Iowa State is going to get to

[Tony Kornheiser]

the Final Four, okay? Michigan State. Houston to get to the final game.

[Steve Sands]

Michigan State. I love the way the Cougars play. I love their defense. If they score a little bit, they're really, really going to be a tough out. And I think Kelvin Sampson is a great, great coach. But I think Michigan State's a little bit better, and I think Izzo is a little bit better than Kelvin.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Arizona, Iowa State, the Cats.

[Steve Sands]

I think the Cats are going to end the Cyclones run there, and it's going to be a powerhouse matchup. Who you like between Arizona and Michigan State. I think the Cats are going to cut the nets down. Arizona is going to win another national championship. And Tom Izzo, it's amazing. He. He's only won one back in 2000, by the way, 26 years ago. It's crazy, as good a coach as he is, but I think Arizona is going to win it all.

[Tony Kornheiser]

This is, by the way, a delight.

[Steve Sands]

I hate I hate Duke.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Hey, Duke, I was going to ask you if anything has happened in the last few minutes that has softened your position on Duke. So, anything?

[Chuck Todd]

No, no.

[Steve Sands]

We hate Duke. And last night, just to prepare for these brackets for your show. Tony.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Steve Sands]

In honor of Jeff Ma. We watched after the Players last night. We watched 21 in honor of Jeff Ma.

[Michael Wilbon]

Just to get ready for today.

[Steve Sands]

Heck of a movie.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's. It is. It's a wonderful movie. By the way, the last time Iowa State made the final four was 1944. So long before Johnny. Yes. Yeah.

[Steve Sands]

That was before George Raveling and Johnny.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Or it's a long time ago. Before me. Before me.

[Steve Sands]

I was that before Tony.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes, before me. All right. Enjoy yourself. And my best to everyone in the family. And I congratulate Val on that medical degree. I didn't know about that.

[Steve Sands]

No, no, not a medical degree. What is a master's from mcv?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay.

[Steve Sands]

But it's a physical therapy. Brain injury. Spinal cord injury.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Could I get a prescription? Is she capable of writing prescriptions?

[Steve Sands]

Can Val Sands write a prescription? Val, can you write a prescription? No, she's shaking her head.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Work on that, Val.

[Sal]

Not yet.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Not yet. All right, talk to you soon.

[Steve Sands]

She married me. She's not that smart.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Thank you, Steve.

[Michael Wilbon]

All right, Tony.

[Steve Sands]

Begin.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Steve Sands. How great is that? He knows everybody and everybody knows him. We will come back with email and jingle. I'm Tony Kornheiser.

[Sal]

Shot clocks, big shots, upsets, aces. TGL playoffs are here. First Atlanta Drives, starts their repeat run against Los Angeles Golf Club. Then Rory's Boston Common golf and Tigers Jupiter Lynx face off in their playoff debuts. Who will advance Keep up its playoffs. Tune in Tuesday, March 17 at 6:30pm and 9pm only on ESPN and the ESPN app.

[Steve Sands]

You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show.

[Guest Musician / The Trend Member]

Here comes Tony. Here comes Tony. Here comes Tony Smack. Got your emails, fax. I sent your notes. Here comes Tony. Here comes Tony. Here comes Mr. Tony Smack. Gonna read some for all of.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's Annie Cress and you're not. You're not. You want to do the Bethesda bagel ad? Yes. Bagel sandwiches today. We're always excited about that. Just go to BethesdaBaggles.com for the location in the DC area nearest you. Then pop on in and you'll be thrilled. Before we get to the mailbag, let me just say I knew a man Bojangles honey dance for you in worn out shoes silver hair, ragged shirt and baggy pants the old soft shoe he jumped so high. He jumped so high. Then he lightly touched down. That's Jerry Jeff Walker. Yeah. Mr. Bojangles would have been celebrating a birthday today. Jerry Jeff would have. Yes. Okay. Lovely, lovely. We're going to. Oh, okay. So thanks to our guests today. I almost forgot that Chuck Todd, Michael Wilbon and Steve Sands. Thanks as well to today's sponsors. Remember, you can listen to us on Apple podcast, Spotify and ought to see if get show through Apple. Please leave us a review. A very lovely note from David Epstein in New York about his mom passing away and how much she liked the show and, and it's, it's very personal. I don't want to get into it, but thank you for the note. Very lovely. And our sympathies, obviously our sympathies. Haiku from Shad Tony, don't be scared. Instead I would be very, very scared. This is about today's weather in Washington D.C. where they're talking about tornadoes. We don't often get forecasts and warnings for tornadoes. Five days. Yeah, five days in a row. So. Oh, from Carl in us we go New York, my friend of the show, Jason Smorrell, the general manager of Syracuse Mets has been the local news a lot this month. First, there was the debacle of the Mets name change which has now been postponed because of trademark issues. Second, Jason was named Gail of the Year because of the St. Baldrick Gale Gael because of the St. Baldrick's charity events to raise money at several Mets games. I'm watching him on my TV walk in the annual Syracuse St. Patrick's Day Parade. So he's, he was walking. Jason was. I think there's a picture of him. Yeah, but what happened?

[Michael Wilbon]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh, there is a picture. Here's the problem is that, that this is not printed completely. Oh, did it? This happens to us all the time. It's formatted and it's just all the time, you know, it happens a lot. So we'll do this again some other day. Yes. Okay. From Michael Benedetti, Scottsdale. Not North Scottsdale, Arizona. It may be true that Arizona has only time zone, but did you know Scottsdale and North Scottsdale have dramatically different climates? For example, today it was a scorching 92 degrees in regular Scottsdale and a cool 91 degrees in North Scottsdale. Wilbon is living the high life up there. From Ed Butt. I am surprised that Wilbon hasn't bragged to you that Chicken Vesuvio is a Chicago dish. No less authority than the New York Times cooking section called it a Chicago classic when introducing their recipe for Chicken Vesuvio soup. Most Italian restaurants in Chicago offer a version in Maggiano's, having been started in Chicago by Rick Melman's. Let us entertain you. Restaurant Empire certainly offers it. However, I suggest when you visit Wilbon Land, you get your Chicken Vesuvio at Harry Carrey's. First, as a baseball fan, you'll be enthralled by the pictures and memorabilia hanging on the walls. Second, anyone who knows anything about Harry knows that he really liked to eat and drink well. So there is really good and Ed Butt a now signs it a Proud Chicago and now living and retired in Frankfort, Michigan, he says, I found the New York Times Chicken Vesuvio soup a little bland. Next time I'm going to triple the spices and either use thighs instead of breasts or add a couple of teaspoons of Better than bullion for that. So that's I read that so Michael can get a load of that Steve the Sickafan on Friday's pod, one emailer said In Nebraska, chili is served on cinnamon rolls. As a native Nebraska and I must note I've never heard of this abomination. Without casting aspersions, may I suggest a rogue Kansan or Iowan snuck into my fair state and served this dish on the sly. This concoction makes your choice of chili on rice seem a gourmand's paradise. Here's a toast of chili and cinnamon rolls on widely distant plates from Vanessa in Ann Arbor While shopping this weekend with a guy I'm legally bound to via lease, we did it. We found Busy Bee. As a side note, said guy but listening to Tony for 18 years. Tony is the reason we watched Best in Show and when we saw this in a store this weekend, immediately went into our cart Dog Tax with said Busy Bee is attached and Vanessa says go blue. Yes, that's lovely. Busy Bee. Go get your Busy Bee. Yeah, that's lovely. Dina near Donora the Tune in holds a special place in my heart. The person to whom I'm related by marriage was related to someone else by marriage before me. To avoid ending up with the wrong person again, my now hubby took me to the Tune in on our first date. He wanted to find out right away if I was willing to eat at a dive with good food. I was. And it's almost 34 years of marriage now. Their beer selection has improved, but it's got the same feel we were sure to eat there before we moved to Pennsylvania. Lovely. Thank you Dina from Gavin Shire Yep, it's Steely Dan. So well done to Michael Blue for getting it right. The song is about a one nighter between a man and a person prostitute. They make love to the music of the Dan. He falls madly in love but she has moved on to the next client. He is left alone with nothing else to do but long for her and obsess over the meaning of the Dan's obscure lyrics, to which there are 23 references scattered throughout this song. Thanks again for playing my music. Isn't that great? Great explanation, yes. Thank you from Brian manfrey in Peterborough, New Hampshire. Along with the no. 3 point shot factor, an additional size 15 footnote to SGA's passing of Wilt's consecutive 20 point game should mention that in game 127, Wilt only failed to reach 20 because he was ejected for arguing a foul call in the first quarter. He immediately began a new streak of 92 games. Yeah, and by the way, want to guess who holds the record of consecutive 30 point games at 65? Come on, what are we even doing here? Yes, it's Wilt. Brandon Borzelli, Lebanon, N.J. with tournament picks happening this week, you will undoubtedly hear from Phil's mom.

[Guest Musician / The Trend Member]

Sure.

[Tony Kornheiser]

While some of the usual suspects like Marquette or Creighton are out this year, perhaps you can find out how Phil's gambling is going. Hopefully he hasn't gone the route of Davey Scatino from the Sopranos, who got in over his head at the executive game and repaid Tony by having a sporting goods store stripped of anything worth any value. I believe AJ Got himself Davey's truck out of the deal. Here's hoping Phil hasn't given his car to Rufus. Phil has done very well and I think is starting a tournament again this week. Yes, we're gonna find out.

[Guest Musician / The Trend Member]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

From Patrick Sitter in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. You said you learned about Uranus in elementary school, but if it was discovered in 1781, wouldn't that put you in high school? If you're out on your bike tight everyone as always do wear white Come on now that means everybody just cool

[Guest Musician / The Trend Member]

out, will you cool out everybody. Ain't no one here for me now Sitting here alone now Ain't no one here for me now Nowhere else to go now Said to the man who drove the cab let up One more Father O image is the romance of before I was here out of my Ain't no one here but me now Sitting down no one here but me now Sitting here I won't die now Ain't no one here for me Nowhere else to go now. I said to the girl who gave the drink Will you marry me? Every day with a pitiful KN that makes me think My mind begins to change Ain't no one here but me now Sitting down Ain't no one here but me now Sipping down Ain't no one here with me Nowhere else I go old now. With me I feel that I'm wasting away Long lasting, meaningless all covered more or less Nothing decided With nothing. But me now sick and no one here for me nowhere now Ain't no one here for me now. Nowhere else to go now no one here Put me out, Sam. Josephine. How we live in the dream Josephine.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I will live in the dream

[Guest Musician / The Trend Member]

It's a big wide world you can get up on Many fish in the sea you just need to try at home one but it's not how it seems There are many, many choices the world is your Iceland what does it mean? Josephine. Are we living this real? Jesus, Jo. Are we living the dream? We can fly away together we can breathe all day in the shade of an umbrella where it never rains

[Tony Kornheiser]

the

[Guest Musician / The Trend Member]

sun be down all around us it's just like G There's nobody see? Joseph. How we living the dream? Joseph. Are we living the dream? In that big dark man the world of light we join the party and that same night you got more money than you could ever spend. This life is not what it is. Jesus, Joseph. Are we living the dream? Joseph. Are we living a dream? Joseph. How we live in the dream Joseph. I will live in a dream Joseph. I will.