“I think I found a way in”

Summary

Podcast Summary: “I Think I Found a Way In” – The Tony Kornheiser Show

Episode Information:

• Title: “I Think I Found a Way In”
• Host/Producer: This Show Stinks Productions, LLC
• Release Date: February 10, 2025

Overview: In this engaging episode of “The Tony Kornheiser Show,” host Tony Kornheiser, along with studio guest Chris Cillizza and callers Michael Wilbon and Jason La Canfora, delves deep into the aftermath of the recent Super Bowl. The discussion spans a broad spectrum of topics, including game analysis, player performances, MVP voting controversies, halftime show critiques, and the cultural impact of sports. The episode is enriched with insightful commentary, notable quotes, and relatable anecdotes, making it a comprehensive listen for sports enthusiasts and casual listeners alike.

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1. Pre-Super Bowl Banter and Car Selling Insights (00:00 - 02:40)

The show kicks off with light-hearted conversations about the hassle of selling cars, highlighting services like Carvana. Michael Wilbon shares his seamless experience selling his car to Carvana, emphasizing the convenience and lack of hassle:

• Michael Wilbon (00:25): “Pick up and paid me on the spot. It was so convenient.”

This segment sets a casual and relatable tone before transitioning into more substantial sports discussions.

2. Super Bowl Breakdown and Unexpected Dominance (02:40 - 23:12)

Tony and his guests provide a detailed analysis of the Super Bowl, expressing surprise at the one-sided nature of the game. The Philadelphia Eagles' overwhelming performance against the Kansas City Chiefs is a central focus.

• Tony Kornheiser (09:31): “Let’s stop with Patrick Mahomes the goat? Let’s stop. He’s three and two in Super Bowls.”
• Michael Wilbon (12:02): “If you turn on local radio today, there’s someone complaining.”

Tony challenges the prevailing narrative that positions Patrick Mahomes as the Greatest of All Time (GOAT), comparing his Super Bowl record unfavorably to legends like Tom Brady:

• Tony Kornheiser (09:08): “Tom Brady went to nine and ten. Ten. Ten and won seven.”

The discussion delves into team strategies, criticizing Kansas City’s defensive performance and Andy Reid’s coaching decisions. They highlight how Philadelphia’s efficient offense overshadowed Kansas City's attempts, leading to an uncompetitive and predictable outcome.

3. MVP Voting Controversies and Player Evaluations (23:12 - 45:57)

The conversation shifts to MVP voting, with Michael Wilbon expressing skepticism over Josh Allen's MVP candidacy compared to Lamar Jackson:

• Michael Wilbon (42:43): “Let me put him fourth or let me put him second or, you know, let me do something different with this MVP vote so that he doesn’t get that outcome.”

Tony emphasizes the complexity and potential biases in the MVP selection process, questioning the fairness and transparency of the voting system.

4. Halftime Show Critique and Cultural Impact (07:04 - 26:40)

A significant portion of the episode critiques Kendrick Lamar's halftime performance. Tony admits to not fully understanding or appreciating the performance but acknowledges Lamar's talent:

• Tony Kornheiser (07:04): “I have no doubt that he’s terrific at what he does. That’s not aimed at me.”

He and Michael discuss the broader cultural intentions behind halftime shows, recognizing that while it may not cater to everyone’s tastes, it aims to resonate with a large and diverse audience.

5. Player Trades, Fan Reactions, and Internet Influence (31:38 - 33:42)

The discussion intensifies as Tony addresses recent player trades, particularly focusing on Nico Harrison receiving death threats after being traded. This segment underscores the toxic nature of some fan reactions, amplified by the Internet:

• Tony Kornheiser (32:57): “Tony, this is what’s wrong with the Internet. The Internet has ruined our lives.”

They explore the deep-seated emotions and societal issues intertwined with sports fandom, highlighting how trades can ignite passionate and sometimes harmful responses.

6. Tributes to Sports Legends and Nostalgia (29:14 - 34:25)

Tony pays homage to basketball legends like Hubie Brown and Dr. Jack Ramsey, reminiscing about their enduring influence and personal relationships built over years in the sports industry:

• Tony Kornheiser (29:14): “Hubie Brown is one of a kind coaches who are in their 40s now. They still teach for high school kids and college kids.”

This nostalgic segment celebrates the contributions of seasoned coaches and their lasting impact on the sport and its community.

7. Listener Emails and Humorous Segments (54:01 - 58:08)

The show transitions to listener interactions, featuring humorous frustrations about finding the original Crest toothpaste formula. This segment adds a relatable and light-hearted element to the episode:

• Tony Kornheiser (54:01): “Everything good ends. Someday, a mega corporation will change the formula of your favorite toothpaste and won’t taste as good.”

Tony and listeners humorously navigate the challenges of locating preferred toothpaste, emphasizing the show's ability to blend sports commentary with everyday life anecdotes.

8. Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks (58:08 - End)

In the concluding segment, Tony wraps up the Super Bowl discussion, reiterating his stance on Patrick Mahomes and encouraging listeners to appreciate team performances over individual accolades:

• Tony Kornheiser (23:12): “It was not a competitive game. There was no... I don’t want to stomp on Patrick Mahomes because he’s the best football player on the planet, and I’ll affirm that. But don’t tell me he’s the goat right now.”

He expresses gratitude towards guests and listeners, setting a thoughtful and reflective tone as the episode nears its end.

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Notable Quotes:

• Tony Kornheiser (09:31): “Let’s stop with Patrick Mahomes the goat? Let’s stop. He’s three and two in Super Bowls.”
• Mike Wilbon (12:02): “If you turn on local radio today, there’s someone complaining.”
• Tony Kornheiser (32:57): “Tony, this is what’s wrong with the Internet. The Internet has ruined our lives.”

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Conclusion:

“I Think I Found a Way In” is a testament to Tony Kornheiser’s ability to blend insightful sports analysis with personal reflections and engaging listener interactions. The episode offers a multifaceted exploration of the Super Bowl's outcomes, player performances, and the broader cultural implications of sports events. With its blend of expertise, humor, and heartfelt tributes, the show remains a valuable listen for fans seeking both depth and entertainment in sports commentary.

Transcript

[Tony Kornheiser]

Hey, it's Tony. On today's show, we'll talk all about the super bowl within, studio guest Chris Cillizza. And also via the phone with Michael Wilbon and Jason Locanfora. But first, how about little commerce, kids?

[Chris Cillizza]

Yeah, sure thing.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Hey, you sold that car yet?

[Michael Wilbon]

Yeah, sold it to Carvana.

[Jason La Canfora]

Oh, I thought you were selling to that guy.

[Michael Wilbon]

The guy who wanted to pay me in foreign currency, no interest over 36 months. Yeah, no.

[Tim Legler]

Carvana gave me an offer in minutes.

[Michael Wilbon]

Picked it up and paid me on the spot. It was so convenient.

[Chris Cillizza]

Just like that.

[Michael Wilbon]

Yeah.

[Jason La Canfora]

No hassle.

[Michael Wilbon]

None.

[Jason La Canfora]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

Previously on the Tony Kornheiser Show. It's unfathomable to me that they made this move. If nothing more comes out that there's something we don't know. And this is strictly. Hey, he doesn't really grind it out in the summers the way we'd like him to. Well, all I can tell you is fat Luca got you to a conference finals and a final by age 25. I wouldn't care, Tony. If he was backing a guy into the post and he had a Red Lobster big on with butter sauce dripping off of it, I would give the guy the supermax. The Tony Kornheiser show is on now. Tim Legler was great. Oh, yeah. Everybody's good. Tim Legler was great. Yeah. By the way, just as a small little bouquet at the end of that trade. Anthony Davis now out for weeks. Yeah. First game, he gets like 26 and 12. He gets monster numbers in three quarters. Hurts himself out for weeks.

[Unknown]

Non contact, too.

But that was always the. Always has been the knock on him. That's the thing. It's not just that he's 32. It's that he is pretty fragile. He's amazing when he plays.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Joel Embiid. Yeah, same thing.

[Unknown]

Who now says he may have to have knee surgery.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He can't get on the court. Wow. When he gets on the Court, he's really good. He just doesn't get on the court. Anthony Davis, last two years, has played a lot, but out for weeks. Yeah. Okay.

[Unknown]

The kid that they, the Lakers are going to trade for that trade that trades over.

[Tony Kornheiser]

We'll talk to Wilbon about that. I'm sure he's up on that. Chris is here today.

[Unknown]

Hello.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So I watched, you know, I watched a lot of the golf yesterday because I knew that was going to be over long before the Super Bowl.

[Unknown]

Nance's big game.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, yeah. I don't, I don't know. Thomas Detrie. I sort of wondered did, did he have it to. He had a four stroke lead going in the final day. Did he have it to hold on? He expanded it. Shot 65 on. So he won the tournament. Nobody lost the tournament. He shot 65 on Sunday. The lowest score on the board has. And he won the tournament.

[Unknown]

So do you see some of the ball speed numbers he was hitting?

[Tony Kornheiser]

He made an unbelievably great shot, you know, on the par three.

[Unknown]

I mean, he got to the mid-180s, which is about 325.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What do you hit?

[Unknown]

I don't really want to share that private information.

No, it. Low 180s.

PGA Tour average is now close to 170. Ten years ago it was in the low 160s.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right.

[Unknown]

187. Is Rory land.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, Rory's the. He's the best.

[Unknown]

That's like when they showed last night in the super bowl. When they showed The Super bowl one average weight of the offensive lineman. 245. 360 something.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, yeah. So we have to get to the Super Bowl. I, you know, I rated a lot of commercials. I have the commercials here. I don't have to do it today, but I went to the New York Times yesterday where they showed like 40 commercials. And I put down my favorites. And one of my favorites, I will just say this, one of my favorites was Billy Crystal and Meg Ryan.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Amazing. Yeah. I am reprising a scene from When Harry Met Sally, the end of which is when actually it's Carl Reiner's wife. Carl Reiner's wife, I believe, or his mother.

[Unknown]

I think it's his mother.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Carl runner's mother says, I'll have what she's had. Yes. And they did it for Hellman's mayonnaise and it was wonderful.

[Unknown]

Now, did you know culture test. Did you know who the young woman was?

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, don't.

[Unknown]

Okay, so that's Sydney Sweeney, like the most famous current actress.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh, no, I don't know. Yes. I didn't know who she was, but I thought that was a really good commercial. The Matt Damon, David Beckham commercial. Come on.

[Unknown]

That was good.

Matt Damon is so winning.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's just brilliant. It's just brilliant. And my other favorite commercial, because I'm a sucker for this is the Clydesdale. The young Clydesdale who rolls the keg of beer all across the country. Because all Clydesdale's commercials make me cry. Yeah, they do. So those were the ones that.

[Unknown]

What do you think about commercials that get teased beforehand?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, there must be a lot of money put out to get you to watch them. I don't know which was teased beforehand.

[Unknown]

It's like the Catherine O'Hara pickleball one with Daniel.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You know, that was. That was. Who was in that? Willem Dafoe.

[Unknown]

Willem Dafoe and Catherine.

Okay, so they started teasing that one. At least I saw it earlier in the day. And you. You start to wonder. They're going to. These are characters who can play unhinged. There's going to be something that you don't see.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Famous people were in commercial.

[Unknown]

And then you see the Duncan one as well.

Yeah, the Dunking's one was good.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Matt Damon.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, not Ben Affleck.

[Unknown]

Ben Affleck and Casey Affleck.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

I think I found a way in.

[Tony Kornheiser]

They're all. Yeah, they're all fine.

[Unknown]

Okay, but can we. The SEAL ad.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I didn't get it.

[Unknown]

What the hell.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I didn't get it. Didn't know what it was. Who thought of that? I don't know. Don't know how it works.

[Unknown]

Michael liked it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I didn't like it.

[Unknown]

I just love that they. They were like, you know what? We're gonna do something that you talk about. It's kind of weird. And it was short. Kind of.

[Tony Kornheiser]

We weird.

[Unknown]

It was haunting. It was really between that and the guy who's born with a western hat head.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, I didn't get that. Also haunting. Oh yeah.

[Unknown]

I didn't see the ad for. For Chada. Was that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, we didn't have one.

[Unknown]

That was in the fifth quarter. Fifth quarter.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Snowstorm coming.

[Unknown]

We were locked in for overtime.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Three to six tomorrow and then additional on Wednesday. We think we can do the show though. We don't know if Nigel with his little car can get here.

[Unknown]

I'll just stay here just in case. Emergency option. I'll sleep on the floor.

Your Tesla can't get up the hill.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I also watched Eubie Brown's last. I watched the last five minutes of Eubie Brown's last game with Mike Bream. Lovely. It was lovely. Eubie's 91. He can still do this job. Yep. He doesn't look great, but he's 91. We don't look great. I don't look great and I'm not 91 yet. But we can still do the job. I need to get to the game. Well, before I get to the game, I have to say this. I don't know Kendrick Lamar's work, his oeuvre. Yeah, I'm confident.

[Unknown]

Not up to date on the feud.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No. Well, I've read about that and I talked to you and Liz about that. So I'm sort of up to date on the feud with Drake, although I don't really understand why it happened. But let me say this about Kendrick Lamar. I have no doubt that he's terrific at what he does. That's not aimed at me. I mean, if it's, you know, that's clearly not aimed at me. So I watched it without any understanding of it. I don't want to make a judge. I don't want to stand and scream and say, what was he? No, I'm sure he's really good. And the choreography was interesting to watch. I have the same complaint about Kendrick Lamar that I have about Everybody. It's a 30 minute halftime show, you know, just okay. But I'm not gonna line up and say, why did you have him? Because I understand why you had him. Not aimed at me, aimed at the vast majority of people watching, not me. It's okay, it's all right. Wilbourne and I went back and forth about that. Wilbourne says, I don't really understand it either. So, you know, you get to a certain age, you don't understand it. Let me get to the game. I remember saying, I don't know if I said on this show. I'm pretty sure I said it on pti and I know I said it in a budget text to people as we went back and forth about the game. I'm sure I said this, that Philadelphia was a better team. Philadelphia going into the game is a better team, better offensive team, better defensive team. Okay? And I said, if it's a one sided game, it's going to be Philadelphia. It's not going to be Kansas City. But I said, I've seen Patrick Mahomes win every close game, so I'm not going against Patrick Mahomes. Carville did. Carville won all his bets. Carville was four. And oh yeah, I got a text. Jeff Ma was 3 and 2. Carville was 4 0. Carville, after being so far under 500 for so long is now finishes 65 and 57. So if you bet with him all the time you were plus how many.

[Unknown]

Blue plate specials is that? None.

[Tony Kornheiser]

One or two.

[Unknown]

Is I still the 13 time Jaden Daniels?

[Tony Kornheiser]

One or two is all. Chuck Todd just picked the game. He won 70, 54 and 3. Plus 16.

[Unknown]

If you'll chuck that in attendance in New Orleans.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, he was there. That's right. Reginald the monkey. 1 and 1, 32, 29 and 1 over 500. It's good. He was the best monkey out there.

[Unknown]

Yes, he did, Simeon.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Jeff Ma finished 3 and 2, but 57, 59 and 1. Jeff Ma had the MVP, right? Had Jalen hurts. Right. A couple of things missed on a couple of things. He had a good under on Patrick Mahomes.

[Unknown]

Where's the market efficiency for that line?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, we got to ask Jeff. Gotta have call him back and ask what happened. But the game itself. I quit at 27. Nothing. You're not going to come back? There's a couple of things that sort of need to be said. One is, let's stop with is Patrick Mahomes the goat? Let's stop. He's three and two in Super Bowls. He's been to five. There's two quarterbacks other than Tom Brady have been a five. John Elway was two and three, won the last two. Patrick Mahomes lost the first, lost the fifth one. Well, whatever he did, he's three and two.

[Unknown]

That's right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Tom Brady went to nine and ten. Ten. Ten and won seven.

[Unknown]

Yes, ten.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Tom Brady.

[Unknown]

I only know because they talked about it, because they were killing time when it was like 40 to 14.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Tom Brady's the goat. Yeah, Tom Brady or Joe Montana went four one all four. Terry Bradshaw. I went to four one all four. Tom Brady. So like stop also when the these former athletes that go on the get up show all year long and say Nick Sirianni is the problem. No, no, you're the problem, Nick. Nick Sirianni is not the problem.

[Unknown]

How's two Super Bowls in four years taste? I mean, I know he lost one, but he got him to two.

I'm sure if you turn on local radio today, there's someone complaining.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Nick Sirianni. Nick Sirianni is something like 40 and 10.

[Unknown]

Do you remember when he was fighting with the fans earlier this year?

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's okay. He's sort of a weird guy. Had some strange things that he did. Nick Sirianni is Not the problem.

[Unknown]

It was very charming to see him after the game last night. And I'm not an Eagles fan.

Wait, a weird guy who's confrontational like Bill Belichick, you mean? I mean, give me a break. Like they're not normal people who succeed at this usually didn't.

Philadelphia scored essentially 100 points in the last two games.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes. Scored a lot of points. They've scored a lot of points. And Jalen Hurts is a very good, efficient quarterback. Two years ago I thought he should have been the MVP in the NFL. Is he Patrick Mahomes? No. Is he Joe Burrow? No. See, Lamar Jackson is probably not. How did he do with this team this year? They won 18 games. He doesn't throw the ball deep, extraordinarily well, but he throws within 20 yards very well.

[Unknown]

And that one he threw. Devontae Smith was pretty damn good.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Yeah. They got Kansas City. Indeed. Did take away Saquon Barkley. Yeah. And Philadelphia still won by 100 points. So they must know what they're doing. And by the way, if you're in New Orleans, you're pretty happy that you're going to get Kellen Moore to be your coach, you know, as the offensive coordinator of the Eagles. Now they don't have a quarterback, so I don't know what he can do there. I don't think he can win.

[Unknown]

But maybe they get the guy who used to be the jets quarterback.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's right.

[Unknown]

He's done with the jets, apparently.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Apparently. So if we ask Jason about that, he'll just kill him.

[Unknown]

You know, you mentioned those quarterbacks in the second half, when you're trying to figure out what to talk about with that game, you just, you look at those AFC top end quarterbacks, you're like, man, that must be so frustrating to watch a non game thinking about what could have been.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It was a non game.

[Michael Wilbon]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Can I. I don't blame. I mean, Kansas City's been great. But the other thing is, you know, you need to. Those people who were saying Steve Spagnolo is going to go to the hall of Fame just as a defensive coordinator. No, he's not. No, he's not. He's not. And they did. The Kansas City defense was okay. Mahomes got him in trouble with a couple of picks. Kansas City defense was okay. Bought a great.

[Unknown]

It felt similar to some of the timeline of the NFC Championship where you looked at the turnovers going into the halftime and what that leads to and then what that means for the.

[Tony Kornheiser]

The.

[Unknown]

I could not believe this was True. So I checked because Brady, who I thought was horrendous, said it. The Chiefs, until 1 minute and 30 seconds left in the third quarter never crossed the 50.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, they were no good.

[Unknown]

I mean it just was non competitive. Like it. Just give credit. I mean, the best defensive coordinator of the game was Vic Fangio. I mean, it was not Steve Spagnolo.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Who improved the Eagles over the course of the year. Enormously. Yeah. Now there are four coordinators on those two teams, three of whom have already had a head coaching job and all failed. Matt Nagy, who Will Bond hates, failed in Chicago. Vic Fangio failed in Denver. Steve Spagnolo failed somewhere, I don't remember where.

[Unknown]

It's not the Giants, but yes, he did. He was a, he was a head coach.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Now Kellen Moore is going to get a chance and we'll see. It's not easy to be a head coach.

[Unknown]

Oh, the Rams, gosh, I forgot he went 10 and 38.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So you know, they, and they're all good at what they do, but they all failed. Andy Reid doesn't fail. He doesn't fail. He, he didn't win this game. He's now three and three in Super Bowls. We got six Super Bowls.

[Unknown]

You know what's remarkable about Andy Reid? My kids who are 15 and 12, they were watching the pregame show and they were like, Andy Reid was the coach of the Eagles. Like they had no clue. I mean, he's had two really amazing runs.

[Tony Kornheiser]

If I'm not the winning coach.

[Unknown]

Right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

In both. In both places. I mean, he's the winningest. So anyway, it was not an artistic game and it was. I stopped watching and I think a lot of people stopped watching. I'm curious. It's a 6:30 or so start. They're going to go all the way to 10 to 10:30. They're going to get the 10 to 11 o'clock hour. I'm curious as what the end rating was.

[Unknown]

Not good.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I would think people turned away.

[Unknown]

I'd say most people stay through the half quarters. But you think about that Matt Damon commercial. I'm sure they specifically paid for a spot. When you think if this is a close game, we're going to have a lot of people looking for this last. I don't know where, but it felt like it was, it was like 12.

Or 10 definitely in the fourth quarter.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So yeah, all I needed to see.

[Unknown]

In the second half, I start reading about the legal possibilities about, you know, will he or won't he play the song and then when he does, like Does Fox accept the lawsuit?

Totally.

Do they decide to go forward because. Well, CBS wasn't sued yet during the Grammys, so that gives them the okay.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I. I felt that the game was decidedly over when Kansas City got the ball at the first possession in the third quarter when two sacks and a small scramble and punted. Yeah. And you said, okay, that's it.

[Unknown]

And they're not even blitzing.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's it. Yeah.

[Unknown]

They couldn't.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Four guys.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

That's when they needed to at least put some kind of points in.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I have two.

[Unknown]

Can I give you two Tom Brady notes? I took notes knowing I was going to be on number one is. Did you see? I looked at it. He had this gold watch on and I looked it up.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yellow.

[Unknown]

Yellowy.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes.

[Unknown]

Good for him because who cares? He's Tom Brady. $600,000 watch.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Really?

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So it wasn't yellow. Plastic. Now.

[Unknown]

It was not plastic. And second, my favorite. No, it was not a swatch. And I, by the way, have numbers. A number of swatches. My favorite was in the first half. He said, and look, he can't be the best at everything, by the way. Like, he's the best quarterback of all time.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay? So with him, I actually think he and Burkhart are good. I enjoy them.

[Unknown]

So it's third down. He circles.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He's.

[Unknown]

I think he was trying to do a Romo. He goes, all right, this is Mahomes. Go to guy. And he circles. Travis Kelce. I'm like, thanks for the insight.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Did Travis Kelce catch any pass? I think he caught one or two.

[Unknown]

In the garbage time.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

This is his go to guy. Oh, really?

I will say, to get back to the music, the woman who we were introduced to by James Carville, Lauren Daigle. Did you see that? She did America the Beautiful. I did with. It was lovely with a fellow. And I'm going to age myself here by the name of trombone.

Trombone shorty.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes.

[Unknown]

He's a huge New Orleans.

And she's from Louisiana, I guess.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And it was lovely.

[Unknown]

Yeah, it was really, really well done.

[Tony Kornheiser]

The Lady Gaga song.

[Unknown]

Oh, yeah, that was.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Blew me away.

[Unknown]

She's amazing.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Are you kidding me? Great.

[Unknown]

Stephanie Germanati.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What happened to her eyebrows?

[Unknown]

I don't.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What is. What? I can't deal. Right. What's your deal?

[Unknown]

No comment. She's so talented, though.

[Tony Kornheiser]

She's.

[Unknown]

Oh, yeah.

And did you see John Batiste doing the national anthem? I mean, nice. First of all, awesome piano.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes.

[Unknown]

And I know people. It hit the over. It was 2 minutes and 8 seconds. Because he repeated one line three times and people thought. But he had money on it. He had really talented.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, it was good. It's good. All right, we'll take a break. Who do we have first? Wilbon. Wilbon. When we return, I'm Tony Kornheiser.

[Michael Wilbon]

You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser Show.

[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Unknown]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Unknown]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Unknown]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Unknown]

It was just a waste of time. I'm just glad that you and I, unlike other shows, did not spend all week hyping up every single element of the Super Bowl. Luckily the NBA and it's just dramatic trades sort of snuffed that out for us.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Michael Wilbon]

But I tell you this.

[Unknown]

I did something. I didn't watch any of the pregame stuff because I just don't do that. It's just, I mean, how many. 14 days of that and I didn't watch any postgame. It's like I know what happened. Four dudes kick Patrick Mahomes ass in an alley. SAP.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. And they had, you know, the Chiefs had one first down. I think on the first play in the entire first half. They, they got no yards whatsoever. Steve Spagnolo's defense was okay. I mean they were undone by A couple of interceptions. But Vic Fangio's defense was fabulous. They were only rushing four.

[Unknown]

Four.

[Tony Kornheiser]

They were only rushing four. And Kansas City. Kansas City had nothing. I stopped. I watched the first possession of the second half and, you know, two sacks and a minor scramble and a punt. And I just said, it's over. Well, I told you earlier it was over. You thought I said it too early.

[Unknown]

I wasn't willing to accept it then. But when they came out and didn't score the first possession of the third quarter, I was in the same place that you were. And, you know, that's how, ideally, you want to play against an offensive wizard. Want to not go blitz crazy. At some point, it was 24 nothing. And he hadn't blitzed. Fangio had not called one blitz yet. And they. And I. I read Tom Brady say that, you know, he's had their LOC this year, and they blitzed between 20 and 25% normally. So that's it. That's it. That's it. I know that hours will be spent talking about every X and O. I just like, okay, let's go. Let's move on. Time to go.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It was not a competitive game. There was no. It was shocking to me because Kansas City had kept everything close all year long. This was not a close game. It just. There was. They had no. They could not solve anything that was going on in front of them. They could not solve it. And Patrick Mahomes. And so, I mean, I don't. I don't want to. I don't want to stomp on Patrick Mahomes because he's the best football player on the planet, and I'll affirm that. But don't tell me he's the goat right now. Don't tell me now.

[Unknown]

Yeah, yeah, I don't want to hear that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

A little bit early now. The other guy won seven of these.

[Unknown]

Things, going three in a row. It sort of reduces the conversation of other people. Yes, it sort of reduces, but it doesn't reduce. Laugh. You know, I mean, there's still people with three. There are people with four, and so. Shut up with that. I got tired of that theme before the game. Let's see it happen first.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

And somebody win the game.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You know my other thing here, because I've been saying it for weeks, these people who go on the Get up show who used to play in the league, who say, nick Sirianni has to be fired, he's the problem. He's not the problem. There's no problem. You're the problem.

[Unknown]

There's no problem. There's no problem. I mean, he just. I look. One of my dear friends, Wayne McKnight from Philly. We're in a group text, and McKnight wanted Sirianni fired, like, five weeks. I'm like, dude, stop. So last night, according to Donald, I had to pepper him with, you want to fire Sirianni? Wanted to hold the Lombardi Trophy and be fired? Yeah, just do that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, they were good. They've scored a million points in their last two games against Washington and Kansas City. Do you know, of course, the overreaction will be. Do you think they're a dynasty? No, no, no. Come on.

[Unknown]

They're a dynasty.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, they're not a dynasty.

[Unknown]

Oh. Oh.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Not a dynasty yet.

[Unknown]

Sports center will ask us to.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You got to win three. You must win at least three.

[Unknown]

I agree with that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's the number, you know, two in seven years. No, you stop. Don't. Don't do that to me. And it was sort of disappointing. I guess I should ask you because we both had a similar reaction. I mean, Kendrick Lamar is not aimed at me. It's not aimed at you, is it? But, I mean, I'm sure it's fine. It's just not aimed at me, you know?

[Unknown]

Yeah, there's lots of ways that's a far more interesting discussion, by the way, Kendrick Lamar, you know, at a certain. You know, a certain person who. Not like us. I can include. Not like us. Yeah, no, I'll be very much like Kendrick Lamar. Certain person not like us. In attendance yesterday. The fact that he had to sit through that made me very happy.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, I had to sit through it, too.

[Unknown]

Yeah, I know. It didn't affect me that you got to sit through it. It just made me happy that he had to sit through it. And so I think that is a. That, by the way, that is a far more interesting cultural and, you know, conversation that nobody's going to engage in because everybody's afraid of it. But I love that.

[Michael Wilbon]

I love that.

[Unknown]

The only thing I want to hear from Kendrick Lamar is not like us. I heard it. That made me happy. And then. Let me get some Chinese food and go to bed.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, no, yeah, I get that. I get that. Did you. I had. I watched a couple of things. Okay. Beyond the Super Bowl. We can't. We're not going to dwell on the Super Bowls. No point. Did you watch any of UB's last game?

[Unknown]

No, I couldn't. I couldn't see it because I was. I didn't realize, even though we had talked about it. I wanted to. I looked up. I was at the clubhouse at Desert Mountain, and I looked up and saw Doc Rivers with the headset on for an extended period. And I could see he was talking with Hubie. And I was like, damn it. I got to get. I got to get a. I gotta get that. I'm pretty sure, Doc, at some point, maybe a couple of different points played for Hubie Brown. And I just love to hear that. I did not. Did not see Bucs Sixers. Is that the game? That was.

[Michael Wilbon]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Indeed. Played. They. Lord, they all three played and they all lost again. And they're really not good enough because Milwaukee had been on a losing streak. I think that UB wanted to do it in Milwaukee because of Larry Costello, who was his college friend at Niagara, I believe, and the first guy to give him a job. And so Eubie had real good feelings about Milwaukee. I watched the last five, six minutes. They rolled in some nice tape pieces. Eubie didn't cry or anything like that. I mean, he knew this. It was his choice. He knew it was coming. And Breen was very good. You know, Breen, you just.

[Unknown]

Yeah, he just the right tone, Tony. I'm glad you mentioned Hubie. You know, I got to get off on not just the right foot with Hubie, but, you know, I was blessed because of your relationship with Hubie, that when I first met Coach Brown, he's still coaching, obviously, and it was great, you know, that I got welcomed in. I got embraced as a kid, as a young guy. And then, you know, these last 20 years that I was in a lot of games with Hubie, working with them, working the same games, working the same games for espn. It was. It was one of the joys of my life to be around Hubie Brown and Dr. Jack Ramsey. Yeah, I got to be with these guys. They, of course, saw more basketball and knew more basketball were around, more basketball there. Maybe any two people left, you'd have to, you know, include, you know, Red Auerbach in that group.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Red Auerbach and Jerry West.

[Unknown]

That's the group. And Jerry West I got to be around. But Hughie, it was great after games where Hughie, like the rest of us, the only place where he was just like the rest of us was that he was wound up and he wasn't going to go to bed and he had notes and the game was fresh in his head and stuff was fresh in his head. And we sit around the hotel lobby and, you know, because when you were younger, you did this too. And you do this with Dr. Jack and Hubie Brown until maybe three in the morning. And I remember Dr. Jack started a story one night. He was just sitting around doing a prep thing and said, okay, we started telling stories. Let me tell you about the night I traded Wilt.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He coached Wilt.

[Unknown]

Say, okay, that's not a sentence. You know, so it was like if you were a baseball guy sitting around with people who could talk about Ruth and Garrick and Mays and Williams and Mantle and Aaron, first person. And it was always just great. And so that. That was, to me, I had as much fun I got. It was as fulfilling to do that as it was to actually see the game, because you got to listen to them. And Hughie Brown is one of a kind coaches who are in their 40s now. They still. They teach for high school kids and college kids. I'm sure they teach a lot of Huey Brown stuff. And so Matthew will come home from Gonzaga High School and say, dad, we're running this Hubie Brown drill. And, you know, do you know Coach Brown? Yeah, actually, I do. And it's just. It's an honor. And I really don't want to think about the NBA community and the broadcast of games without UB Brown. That's just something I don't want to deal with.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Still good. 91. He's actually still good. One last thing, and I'll let you get out of here. Anthony Davis is out for weeks.

[Unknown]

A month.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He's out for a month. Oh, my God.

[Unknown]

A month. So what makes this story more serious than just rolling our eyes is that Nico Harrison is getting death threats in Texas.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, he shouldn't get death threats.

[Unknown]

And he has. They have. They had to put security detail on him. Whether it's the team or the league or both, I don't know. But this is a. This is not. This is not just an exercise in talking about a trade in Texas. This is. You know, there's a lot of elements to this. Okay. There's a lot of elements in Texas to a global. And while European white superstar athlete being dealt away from Texas by a young black executive. There's a lot of stuff in there to unpack too. And no one will talk about that either.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, no one will. No one will.

[Unknown]

They'll be scared.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You don't even really have to get to that because everyone thinks it's insane to trade the guy.

[Unknown]

Yeah, but it's again, North Tech.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I understand that, but I'm.

[Unknown]

I got the friends I have on a group checks. I texted him Last night. And I said when I found out Anthony Davis was out a month. And I was like, they all referred to Nico Harrison and death threats and security.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Tony, this is what's wrong with the Internet. The Internet is ruined our lives.

[Unknown]

Well, it's not just the Internet. This would have happened before the Internet. Now is it exacerbated? Is it all talked about too much and overly dramatized? Yeah, it is. But. But the dynamic of. Okay, two people who anticipated some of this were you and me. Because we talked about it in Lifetime.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

To each other.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's just. It's just.

[Unknown]

But it's. It's a. It's a. It's a different story in North Texas than it is in Washington, dc.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I agree.

[Unknown]

Arizona.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I agree.

[Unknown]

It's a much different story.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I agree. At some point, maybe there's something else to this trade. Because if it's just that he's fat, man, that's just not enough.

[Unknown]

Now it just goes on and part of it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, I thought they could win. I mean, maybe it quiets because they.

[Unknown]

Gave much of that same fan base. Now it's just 20,000 people in the arena. They gave Anthony Davis as warm, inclusive or welcome to start that game as he could get.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And he went out and had like 22 points in the first half.

[Unknown]

Pointed that out.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

About the community. So the reaction is not toward Anthony Davis. That's why the whole thing is so complex. It's so layered and so complex and nuanced and it's not gonna get talked about. It just won't be.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, all right, I'll talk to you later.

[Unknown]

All right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Joe Michael Wilbon, boys and girls. We'll come back with Jason Lockinfor. I'm Tony Kornheiser.

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[Unknown]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

Locanfora and I have to read. We're joined by Odyssey NFL Insider Jason Lockinfora, host of the podcast in the Huddle covering the entire NFL. You wait all year for a Super Bowl. Is it in any way a satisfying conclusion? Just even in the sense that Philadelphia was dominating and it proved something?

[Michael Wilbon]

Sure. I mean, it certainly was conclusive. You know, it's funny, all the weeks spent talking about this game or preparing for this game in various capacities, I did bring up a few times Sunday morning on my radio show, like, you know, we're kind of overdue for a blowout. Like, I'm old enough to remember when these games were chronically anticlimactic.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Michael Wilbon]

And that was just the whole, like, I can remember much of my youth, like adults saying, what are we going to get a decent Super Bowl? So that was a little sort of sense that this might get sideways one way or the other. Just that we were kind of due for something other than, you know, drama, drama, drama. And obviously this was over at halftime. Even thinking it might be one sided, I don't think any part of me would have concocted a script for either team that was so thoroughly one sided. That was literally one team can't, offensively cannot make a play, can't do it, can't do, not complete a pass, cannot show any sort of gumption, just has seemingly lost its plot, doesn't have any great ideas, doesn't have any real adjustments, just cannot, cannot do a modicum of what's expected offensively, while the other team, you know, literally has a cavalcade of sacks and interceptions and pick sixes and also is exceedingly efficient offensively. I didn't see that coming.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Nor did I. I mean, I did think that if it was going to be one sided, it would be one sided for Philadelphia because of the kind of games that Kansas City has played all year. But they were, Kansas city was not apt. They were not. They were not apt. They, they couldn't do anything. And I've said this a couple times already today, but after the first possession, the second half, I said, I'm done. There's no point. I mean, yeah, you know, it was really sort of surprising. And I don't think that we have to listen to, you know, that Mahomes is the goat anymore. This, that or the other thing. Philadelphia was really good and, and they've scored so many points in the last couple of weeks and you know, did you think they were that good? I thought they were good. I didn't think they were that good.

[Michael Wilbon]

No, I, I didn't, I didn't think they were that good. You know, look, you've replayed that game 50 times. I don't know that we get an outcome quite that one sided one way or the other. But yeah, it snowballed and it very much did have a feeling a little bit of that Tampa super bowl where things were so one sided in the trenches that nothing else mattered. No, no. You know, part of me was like, well, if this is a bad matchup, maybe they slide. Joe tuning back inside and. But like, you know, Brandon Graham hadn't played football forever and he was getting off. I mean, it just, it really didn't seem to matter. It almost looked like that Chief's offensive line just collectively were scared and flinching and it just seemed like there was blood in the water and the Eagles knew it and they didn't. I mean the Eagles didn't have to do anything exotic. They didn't have to do anything cute.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No.

[Michael Wilbon]

They didn't even have to blitz with five. Like just four. Literally just four just ran out there and said, we're gonna run some games, some twists stunts and play around a little bit and everybody's gonna get a chance to take advantage of these guys. And for Mahomes to be that rattle, I mean like Mahomes legs weren't even an issue like you thought, okay, well if they put him under pressure, maybe he'll run a little bit. Maybe they'll do some things in the screen game like no, he was swallowed up. You know, Hertz at times was able to step up into the rush and, and basically turn it into a quarterback draw and extend some drives that way. There was none of that from homes. I mean, yeah, it's hard to remember, you know, Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes looking bad. It just doesn't happen.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. So we'll get off it. We'll just get off it because there's no point in just revisiting it. But I have a couple of questions. How are you with Josh Allen as the mvp? Surprise you.

[Michael Wilbon]

Yeah, it's a weird group there. They have voting. I mean, I don't, I don't know when, you know, we had to have 50 people at the table. I mean when you've got multiple instances of two people who host a show together and they talk about this stuff, all they do is talk about football for four or five hours a day, for five days a week. And then each host has, like, there's two guys who do the show and they both get a vote. Like really, like that's the best way to sort of spread this around, make this smart or not make this bulletproof. Like when you've got hot take artists and people who, basically their entire careers has let me create sort of self absorbed content one way or the other for likes or, or dislikes or, or ratings, and then they've got one of 50 votes. It's just like, okay, I, I, you know, it doesn't really make sense, but people twist and contort themselves into knots over Lamar in ways they just don't for other people. And the fact that he would be the one who would bring out this sort of convoluted result that we haven't seen since 1987 were overwhelmingly the same. Fifty people acknowledge that he had the best quarterback season in the league, but then by a very different margin because of the way they lay out their votes for MVP. Like decide he's not worthy of back to back MVP or he's not worthy of three MVPs in five years. So let me put him fourth or let me put him second or, you know, let me do something different with this MVP vote so that he doesn't get that outcome. I mean, that, that's what it looks like to me. Okay, I, I think it's a little, I think it's a little odd. I think it's a little too cheap by half. And I think if you wanted to make an argument about Lamar Jackson, if you told me Dak Prescott last year wanted over Lamar, I, I would say that actually makes more sense to me than Josh Allen winning it over Lamar this year. But that's just me.

[Tony Kornheiser]

How about an 18th game? We're getting that.

[Michael Wilbon]

We're getting it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Are we getting it next year? Are we getting. We know.

[Michael Wilbon]

I don't think, I don't think quite. No, that would surprise me. But I think we're getting it. I think within the next couple of years we will know that it's coming. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think it's something that happens overnight, but I think in the next two years the NFL brow beats the NFLPA into it because then they're gonna have to reopen. There's, there's outs in these TV contracts, and that's really what this is about. They're going to expand the inventory so much that then they, they say, well, we're opting out of the final two or three years of these TV deals because it's built into there and then that's when they take the whole thing in the marketplace again and it's more money for everybody. And that's how they sell the PA on it. Where this is going to grow the pie exponentially, you know, so. But no, I don't think that next year would be a real.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, I'm gonna go to your favorite topic. Aaron Rodgers now on television. Earlier this morning it was where will Aaron Rodgers. Apparently no one thinks he's going to be with the jets next year. Where will he be? Do you think he'll play?

[Michael Wilbon]

I think it depends how realistic he is about a price point and what is reasonable and what's not and, you know, how secure he's going to be, you know, as that team's quarterback. And certain situations I guess would provide a little bit more of a, of a longer leash than others. And I think you probably ends up playing, but man, oh man, it's hard to find, you know, that scenario. I mean, there's going to be three who are taken in the first round. Two of them probably play pretty soon. There's about seven teams right now that need a quarterback. You know, Darnold ends up somewhere. You know, Russ and Justin Fields end up somewhere. The Cousins trade happens at some point. There's not a ton of seats at the table, but you know, maybe Vegas, maybe, you know, Pete Carroll could, I could see a certain desperation there to try to turn that into something other than the long term rebuild that it is. And maybe you convince yourself that you can win something in the interim with him. I think that's a lot of fool's gold, but he might get one more bite at the apple.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, it's. I just wondered a place like New Orleans, like Kellen Moore goes there and they don't really have a quarterback. Carr isn't any good.

[Michael Wilbon]

No. But their cap situation and their finances are going to be so screwy and just what they'd have to eat to get rid of car. I don't know that they're going to, you know, gamble on a 40 something year old quarterback after that. Like they kind of went from Breeze right at the end to Carr who was older than his years because he doesn't want to run and he doesn't play athletically. So he kind of was an old quarterback even though he wasn't as old as Breeze was. And then to go back to Breeze, you know, essentially.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Essentially you have Rogers. Yeah. All right. Plug your radio show for us. Plug your radio show.

[Michael Wilbon]

Check me out 2 to 6 on Inside Access on 157 the FAN in Baltimore. You could stream that anywhere in the Odyssey app. I have a piece in the Washington Post this week, kind of laying out the NFL off season and what pretty smart people are telling me they think is going to happen with some of the best free agents and potential trades. Where's Miles Garrett going to land? Who's going to sign Khalil Mack? All that good stuff. Sam Donald's future. And you check me out on CBS Sports HQ breaking down NBA and college hoops.

[Tony Kornheiser]

We need to have you on. We just can't let you go for the whole year. Just. We love you.

[Michael Wilbon]

You got my number, man. I'm here.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Good. Thank you, Jason.

[Michael Wilbon]

Good, Good stuff. Ride with. Ride with the Campbell Camels tonight.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. Oh, okay.

[Michael Wilbon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's good to know. Jason locanfour up, boys and girls. That was Odyssey NFL Insider. Jason locanfour. Make sure to follow in the huddle on the Odyssey app or subscribe wherever you get podcasts. We will come back with email and jingle. I'm Tony Kornheiser.

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[Tony Kornheiser]

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It's a good day to be in.

Eat it, Chuck Todd. Literally.

Bethesda Bagels. We love a mule as well. Just go to Bethesda Bagels.com for the location in the DC area near a shoe. Then pop on in and you'll be thrilled.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That will do it for us today. Before we get to the mailbag, let me just say close your eyes and I'll kiss you tomorrow. I'll miss you. Remember I'll always be true and then While I'm away I'll write home every day and I'll send all my love into you. That's the Beatles, the early Beatles. That's Meet the Beatles. That's one of the greatest songs they've ever done. You.

[Unknown]

You saw Sir Paul. They. Did you watch that long? They flashed to him, like, in the third quarter.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I saw him earlier than that.

[Unknown]

Okay.

They flashed to him, like, when they did, like, celebrities in the building.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

He was talking to Sandler.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He was talking to Adam Sandler.

[Unknown]

And you know what was cool about Sir Paul is like, a lot of them pretend that they don't know they're on. At least when they did him in the third quarter, he's pointing at himself on tv. I was like, you're the. You're in the Beatles, dude.

I think Paul was asking, how did you do the Thanksgiving song?

You showed me that on the guitar.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All right. Thanks to Michael Wilbon and Jason Locanfora. Thanks as well to today's sponsors. Remember, you can listen to us on Apple podcasts Spotify and Odyssey. Get show through Apple. Please leave us a review. So from Todd Dolcet. This is about Crest fluoride toothpaste with the original blue color. Okay, Todd Dolce, in recent weeks on your fine podcast, you have shared with us your frustrations attributed to the arduous task of locating the original Crest toothpaste with fluoride dressed up in its original light blue paste. Fret not, chum, as I can happily report that it is indeed still available. I have enclosed photos to serve as a reference to guide you during your next search to the myriad of nasty gel versions plaguing the store shelves today. The package will reveal what looks to be a near but not exact color match to the pace that so many of us have grown accustomed to using throughout our lives. But let me tell you and assure you it is undoubtedly the correct light turquoise color that you will witness as you squeeze the tube. The original formula with fluoride protection, of course, is readily available at a Walmart near you. I don't know where a Walmart is. Nigel, you have a contrarian point of view.

[Unknown]

Uh.

Oh, well, armed with this photo because he gives a photo of the. Of the actual.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You bought this?

[Unknown]

I bought this.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And I was.

[Unknown]

I was so excited to get a win for you.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You said it was white.

[Unknown]

It was white.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So let me ask you a question. Are you sure you bought this, the cavity and not the tartar? Okay. Because I bought the tartar protection and it was white. This from Todd Dolce says by the cavity protection.

[Unknown]

I thought I did, but I said the board. Oh, yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Just check.

[Unknown]

I will check.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Just check.

[Unknown]

But I've got a. I've got an extra tube if you want some.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It has to be the. The blue, not the tartar. Yeah, it has to be the cavity. The other cavity. From Andy in Philadelphia, who's happy today? The birds won. I've been moved to Wright because of the Crest toothpaste crisis. I've been brushing with a light blue Crest toothpaste for as long as I've had adult teeth. It's become impossible to find. And then I fell into the same trap you did. I bought a four pack of the very same Crest toothpaste you described on the show. Mine was from Costco. It looked perfect. I even compared the final tube of the good stuff that I kept milking for one last drop. These tubes were nearly identical. I was so excited. Until I wasn't. The toothpaste was all white. It's a life lesson, really. Everything good ends. Someday, a mega corporation will change the formula of your favorite toothpaste and won't taste as good. And you'll have to choke down a year's supply that you bought at Costco because they won't take it back.

[Unknown]

Nothing.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Gold stays from Tom McKittrick. Dear Dr. Hofwaff, what you want is Crest ProHealth fluoride toothpaste for anti cavity and anti gingivitis. Clean mint picture attached. You're welcome. No, I don't want that. I know. I don't want that. I don't want clean mint. I don't want that. I very specifically, what do we want? Don't want that. I want the original light turquoise blue paste.

[Unknown]

How is some Crest PR person not on this?

Yeah, exactly.

Why did they should have a hundred.

Bins of Kress toothpaste today?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Sue Hidell in Cincinnati, Ohio. Where isn't this stuff made? Isn't P and G in Cincinnati, Ohio or close to Cincinnati, Ohio? Hey, Tony, I found your Crestview. I contacted the Crest hotline at the Cincinnati based Procter and Gamble and here's the info straight from the horse's minty fresh mouth. Crest Tartar protection and regular paste is still available. I want to share that our Crest Tartar Protection and regular paste changed the packaging to fit in plus architecture. But rest assured, there are no changes in formulation. Here's the photo. I got that. It's white. Crest products are widely available in grocery stores, drugstores and large chain retail stores. They decide which products are stock based on customer demand, so we can't promise that a retailer will have a certain version on their shelves. If you can't find the item you want, please mention your interest to the store manager. It helps them decide which products to order and may lead them to stocking them in the future. Many online retailers carry our products you might use. Might try a search engine such as Google or Yahoo. Find them? I might, but I own a hack. As for the Internet, Sue Hydell is watching. As for the color, I mentioned that the color is not visible on the packaging and white toothpaste was not acceptable. The hotline responded with the following unfortunately, it's not included on the packaging. However, rest assured, our Crest Tartar Protection in regular paste is light blue Aqua Paste. No it isn't white. No it isn't. Sue, get back to them.

[Unknown]

Stop with the lies.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I have this. It's white. Andy from Apopka, Florida Michael who complains more about their toothpaste? Your kids are your father. I'm Daddy. That's Tony.

[Unknown]

Hey, Captain's brushing his own teeth now.

[Tony Kornheiser]

From Greg Kachuk, who is our eye doctor doctor Bethesda Vision Care I see Bethesda Vision Care made the podcast this week. I just wanted to apologize. If you read Bethesda Vision care open at 9:30 on Tuesdays. I've had the staff look high and low to make sure all of our profiles online are up to date. My apologies. His time is precious. I appreciate you and your family trusting me with your eye care. Michael. Thank you for the shout out. I've had a couple of texts the past day or so from friends and patients who heard it. I may not be a dentist, but I agree with Tony. The turquoise light blue crest is still the best.

[Unknown]

You don't have to be rude about it.

Yeah, don't be so rude.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Haiku from Chad don't have to be rude. What line jumpers say after they have jumped the line?

[Unknown]

Exactly.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Phil in College Park, Maryland on Saturday, February 1st, I had the pleasure of attending Dan Byrne's concert at the Rams Head Tap in Annapolis. As another little noted, Dan includes a Tony segment in his shows. At this one, just a few days after sitting at Uncle Benny's table, Dan shared a story with the audience of the events leading up to that day. He spoke of arriving at your house early and sitting in his car waiting to knock on the door. As he got out of his car, a semi tall figure with a dog approached. As the man saw Dan holding his guitar in hand, the man stated, we're not going to make you play. After the show, I asked Dan if he would autograph the Leches Ree sign that I brought to the club. As you can see, Dan not only signed it, but created an original piece of artwork right on the spot. Notice his inclusion of the famous TK salute in the drawing. Thank you and the crew for helping me to become aware of the great Dan Byrne. As you always say, he's a musical genius. Also a nice guy. Position has not been taken. I'd like to be the official curator of Dan Byrne art. And it's lovely. And yes, leches. Look at that's just so nice. Take a look. Great as that Michael Diesenhoff in Avon, Connecticut, which is right near espn.

[Unknown]

Oh yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I had the great pleasure to take in a Dan Byrne concert on Wednesday night in the rockinberg of Old Saybrook, Connecticut.

[Unknown]

Oh yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Think of it as the town where the students at the Loomis Chaffee School for the Rich go on weekends.

[Unknown]

I'm very familiar with those.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Repair their sailboats. Or more accurately, have someone else repair their sailboats.

[Unknown]

Not gonna do that work myself.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Anyhow, I bought my first Dan Burns CD about the same time I discovered you, Mr. Tony, around 1998. I've heard most of the songs many times. I was astounded how emotional I became hearing those same songs live. Dan has an energy and musicianship in person that complements his brilliant writing and knocks you on your tuchus. Of course, Dan hung around after the show and was incredibly gracious, chatting with fans in a quiet and thoughtful way. Isn't that nice? Josh Cone Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania Progressive Soup was on sale at my grocery store this weekend. Six for $6. Wow. Wow, that's fish.

[Unknown]

It's $1.50 a can.

[Tony Kornheiser]

John Kay around the day of February 13, 2017, back when you were doing news stories, you discussed a story involving a man who ran 19,032 straight days. Story below. As an avid runner over the years, I found the story interesting for some reason wanted to challenge myself to break it. For what it's worth, I'd be around 87 years old if I could reach that number. Anyway, this February 13th will make eight years, 2,922 days of me running at least one mile every single day in an attempt to reach that goal. Over the years, the scenery of the miles has changed from the hot Vegas desert to the rainy hills of Oregon and even the sandy beaches of Florida, just to name a few. There's been days I ached, days I never felt so good. But one constant has been your voice and Nigel's, Wilbonds Michaels, Gary's Booker's, Kirkjun's, Money in my ears, Chris's in my ears and just want to thank you for that. So thank you. Scott Martinez, California My response to this burning question is yes. Here's a little story. Is Table saving cutting in line? I was in line at a popular burrito joint in San Francisco. A guy comes in behind me, throws his jacket over the back of a chair, thus saving himself a seat. I explained there are two lines here, one to get your food and the other to get a seat. I further explained that the seat he has hoped to save is the only one available. After I get my food, I will in fact take that seat, jacket or no jacket. He says, we're going to have to agree to disagree. I respond, no, I don't agree to disagree. You're simply wrong. By the way, there are plenty of seats available to me. But I won that moral victory from Joe Booley in Evanston, Illinois. The world seems to get smaller and smaller. It seems Mr. Tony has a lot of fans in the Chicago area. I too live in South Evanston, just south of Main Street. Ever since the Commonwealth running Matt Abbott Ball name dropped I've been shopping at Commonwealth for all my running shoes and attire. Matt abbotball's a stand up guy and knows a lot about his industry. Maybe I'll see you around. Matt Morris I just repeated scream La Cheeserie at Commonwealth until you appear here. From Jason Bullock, Chuck and Roxy, number 31, Saratoga County, New York. After hearing Tom Kargonsky's email Targonsky's email on Friday saying that peanut butter patties Ako Tagalongs were the best. Girl Scout cookies, I retort with two words, Caramel Delights AKA Samoas. That's it. That's the list. Steve the Sick of Fan when you said on Friday's pod you wouldn't discuss Julius Caesar with Chessy, I thought, of course not. Context is vital to discuss drama with a dog. You have to take breeding into account. If you have a beagle, then Harvey featuring that large rabbit would be appropriate. I think Chessy, being a retriever stock, will be fascinated with Aristophanes, the birds, or possibly Tennessee Williams, the sweet bird of youth. Context. To him it's everything. Paul Miller, Mount Juliet, Tennessee for the background you were the same age and my mother grew up in Lynbrook. While riding in the car one day with my mother when I was quite young, she said to me, look, there's a donkey. I corrected her and said, you mean donkey. She replied by asking me what those animals are called that climb and swing in trees. I immediately said, those are monkeys. She pointed out they are spelled the same and you don't say monkey. Mama's always right. Stick to saying dunkey. Thanks for bringing back that memory for me. One last thing on a different subject. I too was in the Orange bowl when Doug Flutie threw that famous pass. I was not standing in the end zone, but seated with my girlfriend, whose son was the playing center for Miami. Unfortunately, we were seated next to nuns from Boston College, which considerably toned down our reaction to the play. Thanks for all the years of stories, laughs and entertainment. My mom would have liked you. She loves smart and funny. Michael Benedetti San Tan Valley, Arizona My favorite part of today's show is when talking about the Internet, I don't want my life out there. Meanwhile, a recap of the past several Let me tell you all about my doctor's appointments, my dog walking schedule of various people visiting my house to take care of moths and mice, the exact amount of my electricity bill in the first job I was fired from. The point is taken. Jason Bullitt, Chuck and Roxy Episode 31 Saratoga County, New York While hearing Althea Mills play in Tim Leger's Tim Leger on Friday show, you read an email saying she was an inductee in both the Songwriters and Rock and Roll hall of Fame. Let me know when she makes a wall of fame. Then we'll talk your bike tonight. Everybody always do wear white now don't you tell me you don't remember me.

[Unknown]

Because I sure as heck fire remember you.

[J]

Oh mama may I if I say I got to go there's this place down by the coast oh no oh mama may I if you say you think you know well let me show you the way I go I got a pop shop we can drop it down take a ride away now cause we are young feels good let go get down the away now I know my mama told me one day love like you would own me. You would own me my mama's old me One day love like you would own me. Don't leave me lonely don't leave me lonely I must say I that this time is sticking slow you just got to let it roll on by I'm up so high it's these clouds that come and go but but we'll make it through I know oh I know Got a pop sock we can drop it down take a ride on the way now we are young feels Good. Let go. Get down the way now. Cause I know got a pop we can drive it down, take a ride away now my mama told me one day. Look like you would owe me. You would owe me. My mama's owe me one day love like you would own me. Don't leave me lonely. Don't leave me lonely. Don't leave me lone. Don't leave me lonely. One day long like you would only. Don't leave me lonely. Slow down and see the salty water lit like a light down by the bay. Hey, you know we're gonna go where Mary wants to. It's she rolls up, she'll take us all the way. No, I don't need it but I want it anyway. No, I don't need it. She won't have no other way. Disco, disco, putting a dance on the radio. This girl go disco. We're moving fast, we should take it slow. I know we go disco, disco. Put in a dance on the radio. Put in a dance on the radio. We like to keep the style in motion. Turn out the lights, we'll find our way. Hey, I fall into you just like the ocean. You tell me, you tell me, tell me to stay the way. No, I don't need it. But I want it anyway. No, I don't need it. She won't have no other way. Disco, disco, putting an ass on the radio. Disco, disco, we're moving dash, we should take it so I know we go disco, disco, Put in a dance on the radio.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Me.

[J]

Give me, I want you give me, give me, give me, give me, give me. It's like the radio. Put in a dance on the radio. Put in a dance on the radio. Put in a dance on the radio.