“I’m ready for my closeup”

Summary

The Tony Kornheiser Show “I’m ready for my closeup”

Date: November 19, 2025
Host: Tony Kornheiser | Guests: Luke Russert, Chuck Todd, Reginald the Monkey, Booger McFarland

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Overview

This episode of The Tony Kornheiser Show blends the host’s signature conversational style with unique guests, focusing on topical sports stories and a delightful detour into the world of Hallmark movies. Highlights include a cheerful, self-deprecating interview with Luke Russert about his acting debut, incisive NFL picks from Chuck Todd (with wild interjections from Reginald the Monkey), and a detailed discussion with Booger McFarland about Lane Kiffin’s coaching future and the college football coaching carousel.

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1. Luke Russert’s Hallmark Movie Adventure

Segment Start: [02:03]

Main Focus

Tony welcomes Luke Russert to discuss his acting debut in the upcoming Hallmark Channel movie “Holiday Touchdown: A Bill's Love Story,” which is entwined with the Buffalo Bills and Hallmark’s signature “comfort TV” formula.

Key Discussion Points

• How Luke Landed the Role

  • Luke relays the surprising way he was cast: after joking about being in a Hallmark movie and engaging with a Hallmark-Bills social post, a casting director cold-called him.
    • “I was like, well, that’s really great … Thinking nothing of it. … I get a call, a cold call from this lady. … Do you want to be in Holiday Touchdown, A Buffalo Bill's Love Story? I go, ah, yes.” — Luke Russert [05:01]

• What it’s Like on Set

  • Set at the Buffalo Bills stadium with thousands of extras and weather that was “sideways freezing rain,” Luke had a small but pivotal speaking role as a halftime announcer.
    • “It all starts on me. Terrifying. Absolutely terrifying.” — Luke Russert [07:46]
  • He describes the nerves of acting versus live TV and working alongside seasoned actors:
    • “After doing roughly, you know, 20 years on television…acting, as you know, is a very different animal.” [05:59]

• The Hallmark Movie Formula

  • Tony and Luke joke about Hallmark’s universality, recurring tropes (like the ever-present gazebo), and the passionate, comfort-driven fanbase.
    • “The Hallmark Channel is a world unto itself…it is on 24 hours a day. Movies are constantly being made. They are essentially the same movie. Everyone is happy.” — Tony Kornheiser [02:47]
  • Luke on the “Hallmark Bubble” and why it resonates:
    • “People are so invested. It’s a familial conn…it’s uplifting…it leaves you smiling…these are very well-written things and they’re very talented.” [10:29]

• Parade, Premiere, Buffalo Love

  • Luke recounts a Hallmark parade in East Aurora, the fervor of fans, and being included in promotions, including meeting Hallmark executives who are TK Show fans.

• Reality of Being Around Hallmark Actors

  • Self-deprecating humor on being humbled by the physical beauty of Hallmark leads:
    • “They have incredible jawlines. They just sort of glow. … Walking with [Andrew Walker] among the female fanbase of Hallmark is like walking with John Lennon in 1964.” — Luke Russert [09:29]

• Buffalo Cred and Authenticity

  • Luke praises the production for nailing “the vibes, the lingo, the family dynamics” and involving legends like Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas.
    • “If I was not in this film, I would still very much love it. There’s a lot here for everybody.” [16:07]

Memorable Quotes

• “It’s the plague. … I’m out of pickleball.” — Tony Kornheiser on pickleball [02:03]
• “If you have an independent movie and you need, like, a cab driver an Irish bartender…I could give you about three minutes of dialogue, I think, at this point.” — Luke Russert [12:31]
• “What I found being among fans is that it brings so much joy to their lives and it’s something that’s constant.” — Luke Russert [10:59]

Important Timeline

• Movie Premiere: “Holiday Touchdown” airs Saturday, November 22nd, 8pm ET (7pm CT).

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2. NFL Picks with Chuck Todd and Reginald the Monkey

Segment Start: [22:15]

Main Focus

Classic Kornheiser banter as Chuck Todd analyzes the week’s NFL betting lines, punctuated by comic interludes from the show’s signature “monkey picks” segment, featuring Reginald the Monkey.

Key Discussion Points

• State of the NFL

  • General consensus: parity and unpredictability reign this season; no true dominant teams.
    • “You tell me there’s no great team.” — Chuck Todd [23:08]

• Game-by-Game Breakdown

  • Buffalo (-6) at Houston:
    • Chuck leans Houston against the spread, despite Josh Allen’s heroics.
      • “All of those nice things about Josh Allen and now you’re going against Josh Allen.” — Tony [24:43]
      • “This might be a little artificially high, this line here.” — Chuck [24:53]
  • Pittsburgh (+3) at Chicago:
    • Both note Chicago’s overachievement, but Chuck bets against Bears’ luck continuing.
  • Minnesota at Green Bay (-6.5):
    • Puzzled by high spread, but Chuck expects Minnesota to fold after Bears loss.
    • Side discussion comparing JJ McCarthy and Sam Darnold’s prospects in the NFL [28:52]
  • Indianapolis (+3.5) at Kansas City:
    • The line and the teams’ viability examined; Chuck takes Indy with the points.
  • Philadelphia (-3.5) at Dallas:
    • Chuck picks Eagles, emphasizing their defense:
      • “I am tired of trying to bet against the Eagles. Yeah, that defense, they’re like a python. They just suffocate.” [31:49]
  • Tampa Bay at Rams (-7):
    • Seven points high for Chuck; he takes the “fightin’ Mayfields” (Bucs).
  • Carolina at San Francisco (-7):
    • Both dismiss Atlanta (“the biggest fraud in the States United universe”), with Chuck siding with 49ers.

Reginald the Monkey’s Picks

Reginald, with his fictional “adviser” team, goes the opposite on key picks (Buffalo, Kansas City, LA Rams) and reveals his training to swim the English Channel, in typical absurdist show-in-joke fashion.

Notable Quotes

• “I need an Atlanta intervention.” — Chuck Todd [33:33]
• “There's no shame in getting a bigger career backup, because you also will have a future in TV commercials.” — Chuck Todd, on NFL backup QBs [34:24]

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3. Booger McFarland on Lane Kiffin and Coaching Carousel

Segment Start: [39:45]

Main Focus

Booger McFarland joins Tony for a focused segment on the massive churn of college football coaches, with special focus on Lane Kiffin and the dynamics at Ole Miss, LSU, and Florida.

Key Discussion Points

• Ole Miss and Lane Kiffin

  • Ole Miss values Kiffin and is willing to match any contract. They haven’t imposed an ultimatum, but would like clarity on his future.
  • Lane Kiffin’s own words on “no deadline” and family considerations noted.
  • “I think he’s earned the right…to benefit off of his success.” — Booger McFarland [42:14]
  • Tony jokes, “He’s basically got one foot in the transfer portal, doesn’t he?” — [42:49]
  • Booger: “You’re either in the portal or out of it. It’s like being pregnant.” [42:53]

• Comparing LSU, Florida, Ole Miss

  • LSU is a destination job but in today’s NIL era, Ole Miss can compete financially.
  • Proximity and access to recruits favor LSU and Florida, but Ole Miss’s early, robust NIL operation is a draw.
    • “Their NIL is as good as anybody in America.” — Booger [44:43]

• Is Kiffin a Fit for Top Jobs?

  • Despite his “northern” roots, Lane Kiffin has ample deep south credentials and history, making him a viable fit at LSU or Florida.
    • “He’s been at the Southeast. He coached at Tennessee. … He may not be from the South, but he’s been to four or five different SEC schools.” — Booger [47:07]

• Prediction:

  • “Where do you think Lane Kiffin will be coaching next year?”
    — “Ole Miss.” — Booger [48:45]

• James Franklin to Virginia Tech

  • Booger sees this as a great fit in a winnable conference; predicts statue-level success if Franklin wins at his previous Penn State rate.

Memorable Quotes

• “If he just goes, if he wins nine, ten games a year, they'll build a statue.” — Booger McFarland on James Franklin at Va Tech [50:10]
• “Virginia Tech’s going to think he's like a, like a runway model wearing a bikini every day.” — Booger [50:38]

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4. Great Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Tony on Pickleball: “It's the plague. … I'm out of pickleball.” [02:03]
• Luke describing Andrew Walker's Hallmark-fan fame: “[It’s like] Walking with John Lennon in 1964.” [09:41]
• Tony on the Hallmark Movie Formula: “Even when mean people are exposed in a Hallmark movie, by the end of the movie, they are nice people.” [02:47]
• Self-Referential TV Cameos: Tony and Luke bond over the surreal nature of being “background extras” in prestige and cable TV.
• Chuck Todd’s gambling agony: “I need an Atlanta intervention…Whatever it takes to keep me from betting on Atlanta.” [33:35]
• Booger’s Coaching Carousel Logic: “You’re either in the [transfer] portal or out of it. It’s like being pregnant.” [42:53]

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5. Timestamps for Major Segments

| Segment | Start Time | Key Participants/Topics | |------------------------------- |-----------:|------------------------------------------| | Opening Banter | 00:00 | Tony, quick tease of segments | | Luke Russert Interview | 02:03 | Hallmark movie, Bills, acting stories | | NFL Picks (Chuck Todd) | 22:15 | NFL lines; Todd’s rationale, Reginald | | Reginald the Monkey | 35:09 | Reginald’s comic picks, asides | | Booger McFarland Interview | 39:45 | Lane Kiffin, coaching carousel, college football landscape | Mailbag, Listener Letters | 51:45 | Various: fact-checks, youth sports, haiku

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6. Overall Tone & Takeaways

• The episode is sharp, self-effacing, and cozy — radiating signature Kornheiser warmth, inside jokes, and irreverence.
• Luke Russert’s Hallmark adventure becomes a lens for exploring audience comfort/fandom, Hollywood realities, and football culture.
• Chuck Todd and Reginald provide NFL talk that ranges from analytical to delightfully absurd.
• Booger McFarland deftly explains coaching drama, brings clarity to NIL’s impact, and offers strong, grounded predictions.
• The show, as usual, feels like a gathering of smart, witty friends and delivers both laughs and genuine sports insight — all in Tony’s unique register.

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For listeners new and old, this episode is emblematic of why “The Tony Kornheiser Show” endures: great storytelling, playful banter, and true affection for the worlds of sports, entertainment, and the odd corners where they intersect.

Transcript

[Tony Kornheiser]

Hey, it's Tony. On today's show, we will welcome Luke Russert into the studio to talk about how he wound up in a Hallmark movie. We'll also get football picks from Chuck Todd and Renald the Monkey. Plus we'll Talk with Booger McFarlane about what's going on with Lane Kiffin. But first, let's do some commerce, boys and girls.

[Luke Russert]

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[Chuck Todd]

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[Luke Russert]

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[Luke Russert]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

Download Today previously on the Tony Kornhauser Show. You know, she said we'd love to bring lunch to the radio show and I did. I let it go because it's we're starting at 7:30 in the morning and nobody's up and she's not up, but she was, you know, I enjoyed playing with her very much. And she can curse and it's good, you know, like a woman who curses.

[Reginald the Monkey]

Well is a treasure doing it well.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes, it's just a treasure. This is General George Washington and you're.

[Booger McFarland]

Listening to the Tony Kornheiser Show.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I heard from Jimmy Crilley who knows Susan and loves Susan. Susan and Alyssa are pals and like they went to some pickleball meeting or something in Charlotte, North Carolina. Or Dinkin Dunk, Savannah, Georgia, whatever it was, pick a pickleball. Not for me.

[Reginald the Monkey]

Not for you, not for me. Also mostly for people who don't want to blow out their Achilles.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, right.

[Luke Russert]

I'm in that camp.

[Tony Kornheiser]

There is. If you go to any pickleball thing, it's the loudest sport in the world. People are screaming. The ball makes a lot of noise. It's really the plague it is. It's the plague just for me. I'm. I'm out of pickleball. All right, we are guest loaded today. We have Chuck Todd, we have Booger McFarlane, and most of all, right now we have Luke Russert, who we haven't spoken to since his book was a bestselling book. That's a year and a half ago. And. And I would say we're going to catch up with Luke, but. No, we're not.

[Luke Russert]

We're not.

[Tony Kornheiser]

We're going to talk very specifically about a Hallmark Channel movie that Luke is in. And let me just set this scene and Luke can amplify this completely.

[Guest or Producer]

Hallmark.

[Tony Kornheiser]

The Hallmark Channel is a world unto itself. It knows no constraints of time. It is on 24 hours a day. Movies are constantly being made. They are essentially the same movie. Everyone is happy. Even when mean people are exposed in a Hallmark movie by the end of the movie, they are nice people. There is. And I don't. And I'm not even gonna say it's sac. I'm not gonna say. I'm not gonna be insulting. Except for, you know, every. There's a gazebo in every movie. But other than that, it is. Whoever thought of it and executed it is brilliant.

[Luke Russert]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Because there are people like my wife that watch it 24 hours a day. They cannot tell you what the name of the movie is, but they are very happy to watch the movie. It's the comm we need. Okay. Right. And Luke is in a movie. Go.

[Luke Russert]

Well, thank you so much for having me. And thank you so much on behalf of the Hallmark Channel for having me.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Should I tell people you're wearing the Hallmark jacket?

[Luke Russert]

I have the jacket with the Hallmark Channel. It's like a NASCAR jacket for the Hallmark Channel. What a piece of attire. I'm in a film. It's coming out. Saturday, November 22, 8pm Eastern, 7pm Central. Holiday touchdown. This Saturday.

[Tony Kornheiser]

This Saturday.

[Luke Russert]

This Saturday Holiday Touchdown. A Bill's Love Story. My acting debut. Tony. I'm in a Hallmark movie. Worlds Collide. Hallmark has been talked about on this program for so many years. And now for the first time, you have a Hallmark. I won't say I'm a star, but I'm blinking a little bit in your presence. What a time.

[Tony Kornheiser]

How did you get into this movie?

[Luke Russert]

Just so my. The person I'm related to by marriage. Like your person that you're related to by marriage is a huge Hallmark movie fan. And she said to me, the Hallmark Channel is doing a partnership with the Buffalo Bills. They had done a partnership with the Kansas City Chiefs last year. Obviously, the Bills movie will be better. So all that being said, I was like, well, that's really great. And I liked the post from the Hallmark Channel about it and wrote something like, let's go, Buffalo. Thinking nothing of it, of it, whatever. And I joked to the person I'm related to by marriage, I said, man, what would you do if I'd be in a Hallmark movie? You just turned it on one day and I was there. She goes, oh, knowing you, you'll probably weasel your way into it. Okay, I get a call, a cold call from this lady. I'm about to board a flight. She goes, hi, I'm so and so, I'm a casting director. Do you want to be in Holiday Touchdown, A Buffalo Bill's Love Story? I go, ah, yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Do I?

[Luke Russert]

She goes, well, do I have to talk to an agent? I said, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I will pay.

[Booger McFarland]

Do it.

[Luke Russert]

I said, whatever you want. She goes, are you seg. After I said, I will be today. Whatever you need. So they, they reach out. I. I literally said, just. Just send over whatever. I'll sign it. I'm good. And they go, great. Do you want to know what the role is? I said, I don't care, as long as I. I have a speaking role. That's tremendous. So I'm a halftime announcer. And I did not know this until we actually filmed, but it happens to be the climax of the movie, so I can't give away too many spoilers. But I will say is that after doing roughly, you know, 20 years on television, give or take, acting, as you know, for Mr. 3000, is a very different animal. And TV is kind of controlled chaos. Right. You kind of can ad lib a little bit. You read prompter, you go up on that. Oh, acting is very set to what the script is. And the scene that I filmed was at the Bill Stadium. I was at the 50th.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh, so you're not in Canada. Many of their movies are made in Canada.

[Luke Russert]

They filmed in Buffalo. Got them. They filmed in Buffalo over the course of three weeks. They went all around the western New York region, which has a lot of idea, like just Hallmark towns, especially East Aurora. Absolutely beautiful. But the scene I'm in, I'm at the 50 yard line. I'm a halftime announcer. And they had extras for this scene in the thousands, but people in the actual stands. In the stands, sure. And so. And then Joe Pantoliano. Pantoliano, who's in the Matrix Who I.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Always confuse with the other guy.

[Reginald the Monkey]

Oh, Billy Bob Thornton.

[Luke Russert]

They do look similar.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I always confuse the commercial. And they're both wearing wigs, so it's okay.

[Luke Russert]

Yeah, so he's, you know, from the Sopranos, from the Matrix, the Fugitive. Just an incredible actor. So my scenes, I have to basically cue him because he goes off of mate. So this scene, there's thousands of people in the audience. It's great Buffalo weather. It's like sideways freezing rain in May, which the director was ecstatic about. He's like, it looks like snow. This is great. Blah, blah, blah. So freezing. And he goes, okay, well, you start the scene. So there's thousands of people in the audience. There's the director. Here's Joe, like one of the premier actors of his generation.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay.

[Luke Russert]

It all starts on me. Terrifying. Absolutely terrifying.

[Tony Kornheiser]

With all the time you've been in.

[Luke Russert]

Front of a camera, it's a different. It's a different vibe. Because in, you know, camera, you turn on. It's like a little red light, or you go out on stage and there's, you know, people in the audience you can kind of play to. And you're not on this sort of strict, very tight, tight script. But this one was like, well, you know, it's Ted Knight and Caddyshack.

[Musician or Singer]

We're waiting.

[Chuck Todd]

Right?

[Luke Russert]

Like, get going. And. Yeah, but. But I was so terrified that I nailed the lines specifically because I was like, I can't let these people down. So that's about as close as I ever feel to playing quarterback for the Buffalo Bills. Was. Was doing that in the 50s.

[Tony Kornheiser]

How many lines do you have?

[Luke Russert]

I got. If you take it, I would say I probably have, like 30 seconds.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Wow.

[Luke Russert]

Speaking time. Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Wow.

[Luke Russert]

And then the great thing is I had three words.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I'm in the Americans.

[Luke Russert]

I'm in the background of the ultimate speaker. So you see me in the background of this. Of this climax of the love story. So just an incredible experience. And the Hallmark people were very nice. They included me in all their promotional efforts in Buffalo. I was just there for the premiere. They had a parade in East Aurora, New York, which looks like a Hallmark town. There was 5,000 people who came out to a parade with reindeer leading the way. And the. The leads. A guy named Matt Daddario and Holland Rodin.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Now, let. Let us. Let us.

[Luke Russert]

Sorry.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes. Make sure people understand this. The leads in one Hallmark movie are the leads in five to 10 Hallmark movies.

[Luke Russert]

So it's Matt's first one. Holland's been in some.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. And he will not be his last.

[Luke Russert]

No, it won't. And here's another thing I will say is that, you know, I, I, I.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Look, he's got to get some gazebo time.

[Luke Russert]

He needs some gazebo.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Everybody needs that.

[Luke Russert]

And you, you spend some time on tv, you try to be fit and you think, yeah, I look like a pretty decent guy. And then you hang around these actors like they are very beautiful people.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes.

[Luke Russert]

And I don't look like that. They have incredible jawlines. They just sort of glow. So being around these guys was very humbling and they were very sweet and they're very nice. But Matt Daddario and Holland wrote in, they did a lot of sci fi horror movie work. But Holland is now a mainstay in the Hallmark and Matt's getting into it. And then there's this guy, Andrew Walker, who's the sweetest guy in the world. He's been in like 20 million Hallmark movies. And walking with him on a street amongst the female fan base of Hallmark is close to whatever it would be as like Walking with John Lennon in 1964.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So explain this to people. Explain what the Hallmark bubble is and the hold it has on the fans.

[Luke Russert]

It's niche, but it is so incredibly strong. And what I mean by that is people are so invested. It's a familial conn. And I think a lot of that is because it is, it's uplifting, it's very optimistic. The storylines are repetitive, they're similar, but they leave you smiling. And by the way, they're engrossing. And what I found, these are well written things. These are very well written things and they're very talented.

[Tony Kornheiser]

There's a similarity to produce.

[Luke Russert]

And what I found being amongst the fans is that it brings so much joy to their lives and it's something that's constant. So how I think, you guys and me, we look at sports and we see sports. It's like, you know, bad things can happen in the world, but we turn on the sports. There's beginning and the end. There's a hero and a villain. There's great drama. A lot of people get that through Hallmark. Except in Hallmark, the ending is always great. The Bills always win in a Hallmark movie.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Luke Russert]

The other thing that was so neat was when I was filming, I was, you know, I was a little anxious and I'm in wardrobe. Going to wardrobe is very cool, by the way. And I walk out and there's this good looking guy and he's kind of eyeing me and he walks over and.

[Musician or Singer]

He goes, la Chase array Oh, really?

[Luke Russert]

I go, what? He goes, yeah. I go, I'm Ethan Wolfe. I'm one of the top people at Hallmark. So Ethan is definitely listening today. Give him a shout out. Huge, huge TK fan.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh, that's great.

[Luke Russert]

So the entire, like, half hour, 45 minutes, where I'm freezing, out in the cold, waiting for my scene, I'm literally talking about this show.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And that.

[Luke Russert]

That calmed me, that. That. That centered me. And I said, well, I said, I.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Guarantee you, well, we'll send you a bill in the morning.

[Luke Russert]

Yeah, well, therapy, you're welcome. Yeah. But Ethan, very nice guy, big up in the Hallmark scene, and he's an avid listener of the show. And he's like, yeah, I always get a kick out of it because I work for them. And Tony talks about it almost as much as he does about sports, so it's good stuff.

[Booger McFarland]

So you.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It was just one day. Just one day.

[Luke Russert]

One day. For me, it was possibly two, but everything worked out well. You nailed it, and we nailed it. And, you know, I really enjoyed the experience. So if anyone wants to option my book and give me a cameo in that, that would be great. If you have an independent movie and you need, like, a cab driver and Irish bartender that can. I could give you about. I can give you about three minutes of dialogue, I think, at this point. So let me know. I know a lot of LA people listen to the show. Your agents out in LA holler at me.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So Pantoliano is an accomplished actor.

[Luke Russert]

Yes. Steve Sherpa was in that from the Supreme Court.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Did they know who you were?

[Luke Russert]

Steve did. Caroline Aaron from the marvelous Ms. Maisel, who did a lot of those Woody Allen movies, she was in it. She knew who I was. I don't know if Joe did, but Steve and Caroline did. And then, of course, the younger ones acted like they knew me. I don't know if they did.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So it gives me a chance to repeat my story about Keri Russell. So the thrill of my life is that I'm going to be in the Americans because I love the Americans. Great show. And I talked about it and talked about it, and the producers reached out and they said, you could be in the Americans. So I go, they're filming. You were filming in Buffalo? We were filming in Rockville center on Long Island, a town that I knew very, very well, having grown up in a nearby town of Lynbrook. And get out of a car and, you know, you stand around and I'm an extra. I'm gonna be in a bar scene and then I'm gonna have one line of dialogue. Okay. So I meet. I meet Keri Russell and I meet. And who was her. Her beau at that time?

[Reginald the Monkey]

Yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Jonathan Reese.

[Chuck Todd]

Yeah.

[Reginald the Monkey]

Who's now her husband.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Now her husband? I believe so. Yes. So they have no idea who I am. And it's very perfunctory. And we're in a car and they don't talk to me at all. And I go, okay, you know, I get it, I understand it. And then about 30.

[Reginald the Monkey]

Are you from the Lynbrook Cornhouses?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Thirty minutes later, Keri Russell comes out of her trailer. You know, stars have trailers. And she walks over to me and she says she's very, very friendly now because she says, I just talked to some guys. I know they think you're a really big deal. Could you take a picture with me?

[Luke Russert]

Just thought, wow, yeah, with that you're touching on something. That's what I found to be so fascinating. And you get a little bit of this in television, but just sort of like prior to a scene, everyone's kind of in their own bubble trying to remember their own lines. And then you go into it and you feed off the other person. But there's not a lot of dancing before. It's kind of like in the moment. And that was interesting to me. I thought there'd be more sort of chit chat ahead of time. You know, how are we gonna do this? Like, do you want me to do anything? It's like, no, we expect you to know what you're. We know what we're doing. We're trained. Don't mess it up.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right.

[Luke Russert]

And that you get the level of disposition.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Did you get any sort of personal encouragement from the direct? Did the director take you aside or anything? Like the director, when I was doing. I didn't even know who. I didn't see him. I didn't know. I just did what I did.

[Luke Russert]

And they said, okay, I met the guy beforehand. And I said, is it okay if I ad lib for anything? And he goes, no, no. So he was very nice. He was very nice. Only one time that he want. He wanted me to say the line a little bit earlier in there. So that was the only thing I had.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So this is. Okay. This is a sports based movie? Yes. The Hallmark Channel doesn't do a lot of sports based stuff. The people who wrote it do. Are they football fans? Did they spend a lot of time actually in Buffalo? Did you, as somebody who knows Buffalo the way you do, did you get the sense that it had a certain Buffalo Truth, yes.

[Luke Russert]

Obviously I'm biased, but I will give them a lot of credit. They embedded themselves in Buffalo for a few weeks ahead of beginning to write the film. They absolutely nailed the vibes. They nailed the lingo. I can tell you, as a full blooded American male Buffalo Bills fan, Die Hard variety. If I was not in this film, I would still very much love it. There's a. There's a lot here for everybody. And even if you're just a casual Buffalo fan or just a casual NFL fan or casual Hallmark fan, there's enough in this script to keep you enchanted, shall we say? So I was very impressed with the writing, and I will also say that one of the things that they did incredibly well was get to the family dynamics of Buffalo. And what I mean by that is Buffalo is known as the city of good neighbors. And there's families that grow up going to games together for generations. And they absolutely nailed that. And they also nailed the relationship the city has with the players. People in Buffalo call the players by their first names, and that comes through very well.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Were there any Buffalo Bills in the movie? Yes.

[Luke Russert]

Dion Dawkins, our Pro bowl tackle. The hall of Famers were in it. Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas Andre Reed. Scott Norwood.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Scott Norwood.

[Luke Russert]

Scott Norwood, who's beloved in Buffalo, who, by the way, lives in Herndon, Virginia.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh, I had no idea.

[Luke Russert]

Oh, yeah, he's a local guy. Very nice. I've got to be become friends with him. Just this nicest guy in the world.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Does Buffalo finally win the Super Bowl?

[Luke Russert]

That does not happen in this movie. That was in the Four Falls of Buffalo, the documentary I did. We changed the ending for that. But let's just say the good guys win in this movie. The good guys win.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Are there mentions of and verisimilitude, to use a long word.

[Luke Russert]

What an sat.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Of Buffalo wings. Not Buffalo Wild Wings, actual Buffalo wings.

[Luke Russert]

So they do have.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Did they go to the Anchor Bar?

[Luke Russert]

No, they went to a place called Bar Bill, which is in East Aurora, which happens to be Josh Allen's favorite wing place. It's very good. They do a good wing. And what's funny is that in the opening scene, the lead actress, she really leans into the wings and beer Persona in a way that is spot on, which I was very impressed with the writing.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So when you see a scene in a television show or a movie of people eating and they're actually eating, they have to spit stuff out in the rehearsals and the early scenes. Cause or else they'd weigh 600 pounds.

[Reginald the Monkey]

Yeah.

[Luke Russert]

And none of the alcohol is ever reacted. You get the vibe for that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

But you didn't go to Canada. So many movies are made.

[Luke Russert]

So thankfully Buffalo has a lot of tax credits. There has been a wonderful movement to try to film things in Buffalo. A lot of movies have been filmed in the area in the last 10 years because of the tax credits and because of how beautiful these towns are. And a lot of the hollowed out industrial core is still there so they don't have to build sets for those types of movies. So it's a very popular place to shoot now. But yes, you're right, most of the time they do go to Canada or they go to places that are more advantageous for taxes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So this, it starts on Saturday. What time Saturday?

[Luke Russert]

8 o' clock on the hallmark Channel.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Are you going to a. Is there a.

[Luke Russert]

No, the premiere was in Buffalo. The party will literally be. I might invite my mother over to. My wife is so excited all over the social media. I got to bring my wife to the premiere. She just melted for these Hallmark hunk heartthrobs and just kind of looked at me as like, God, you're so fat. These guys are so good looking. So you know that it'll be on there and then if you miss it Saturday night, it'll be on 3,000 times streaming the next day and then my guess is it'll play a fair amount. But listen, it's a great film to watch ahead of the Thanksgiving holiday. It's a great film to watch between Thanksgiving and Christmas. You can honestly watch this film till Valentine's Day and really been really till Valentine's Day.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Carol's going to watch this film probably July 4th. Yes. But when they say, when they say Christmas, Hallmark movies, they're not filmed Christmas, all the snow is artificial. All of that stuff is.

[Luke Russert]

Yes, but the night we did our scene there was sideways freezing rain and they were so happy. And then they all kept taking my picture and I was like, oh, is this for a promotional thing? And no, we have to know where the rain hit you on the jacket. So we have to fix it later on to make sure that you're wet in the right place.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I said, oh, well, everybody looks at those movies to see one small change.

[Luke Russert]

Oh God.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So that they can see when something is interrupted. Everybody does that.

[Luke Russert]

They want to go on Internet, the Internet and cite it. But yeah, it was a wonderful experience. I'm so thankful for.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So we're happy for you.

[Luke Russert]

And honestly, my introduction to Hallmark was through this show and I will never forget walking down the Tunnel at the Bill Stadium.

[Musician or Singer]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

That's great.

[Luke Russert]

That's how it started. Full circle moment.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So happy to have Luke here. We will now take a break and Chuck. That's right, Todd. When we return, Luke's friend, Chuck. Todd. I'm Tony Kornheiser.

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[Luke Russert]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Reginald the Monkey]

Sounds an awful lot like him. Freewheeling.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's. That's what Bob Dylan sounded like 50 years ago. I'm just saying that. Wow, that's really something. Bad Dog the Misfit plays in Chuck Todd. This week's picks with Chuck Todd and Reginald the Monkey are brought to you by FanDuel Sportsbook. Make every moment more. Yeah, you've lost late. You finished three and four. You're 37 and 40. It's. It's tantalizing. Mount 500 is tantalizing. You haven't reached it. Any thoughts?

[Chuck Todd]

It's tough. I don't have any good thoughts. It's. It's. You know, I think. You tell me there's no great team.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Nope.

[Chuck Todd]

There's the Eagles.

[Tony Kornheiser]

They're very competent. They're not great.

[Chuck Todd]

And then there's Josh Allen.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes.

[Chuck Todd]

Right. Like, they, like the Bills aren't great, but Josh Allen is amazing. Other than that, like, this is a weird year, right? If. I don't know if we got a Seattle Indianapolis Super Bowl. Would that shock you?

[Tony Kornheiser]

It would surprise me. I don't know that it would shock me. The top of the AFC is New England, Indianapolis and Denver. And that is a big surprise. Seattle is the most surprising time machine.

[Chuck Todd]

Doesn't that feel like 2010?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Just very new England, Indiana. Right. Yeah.

[Chuck Todd]

Manning, Brady and. Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Very.

[Chuck Todd]

Can Thibaut.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's very, very odd. All right, let's start. Let's start. You mentioned Josh Allen. Let's start with Buffalo. Buffalo was at Houston on Thursday night. Buffalo was minus six. That went up from like four and a half because Stroud is out. C.J. stroud is out. And that's a pretty, pretty high line for a game where you're only going to get two days rest and then you got to travel. What are your thoughts?

[Chuck Todd]

It is. And you have a really good defense and defense travels on short weeks better than offense. By the way, these Thursday games have all been low scoring too. That's a lot of points. I know. It's Davis Mills.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes.

[Chuck Todd]

Like, are you really betting on Davis Mills?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Are you?

[Chuck Todd]

I'm betting on them to cover. That's what I'm betting on them. Yeah. I'm going. Part of me is like you said.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All of those nice things about Josh Allen and now you're going against Josh Allen.

[Chuck Todd]

Okay. In that game last week, they shouldn't have covered. But he sort of willed it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right.

[Chuck Todd]

So I also believe that this is, you know, to use the Jeff Ma logic that this might be a little artificially high, this line here.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Chuck Todd]

Based on watching results of that game. But that Tampa Buffalo game wasn't a double digit. That was a close game. Yes, it was a game.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes, it was.

[Chuck Todd]

The final score kind of is misleading. That's my point.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, we'll go to Pittsburgh at Chicago. Wilbon is geeked up for this. Wants to see Aaron Rodgers. Guts spilled all over the car.

[Chuck Todd]

Aaron Rodgers though, right?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, no, he wants to play. The latest is he wants to play. Don't know if he will be able to. Pittsburgh is plus three. Chicago is seven and three and is first place in their division, which is in. It's actually incredible because their quarterback has not played all that well. They're winning all their close games. They are 7 and 3 in first place. They have a negative point differential. They're minus 6 on the year. Pittsburgh never really passes the eye test though. So who you got?

[Chuck Todd]

I think I blindly embedding against Chicago. Like you have to just for everything you just said. Right. They keep winning games. They probably. They've won all their 50, 50 games.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes. Yes. Right. Yes.

[Chuck Todd]

And you know, what was it? Didn't Minnesota did this a couple years ago. They won every 50, 50 game. Kansas City last year won all their 50, 50.

[Tony Kornheiser]

They were 11 and oh, in one score games. Kansas City 11.

[Chuck Todd]

Right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So now they're 05. It comes back.

[Chuck Todd]

There is a part of me that wonders are, is this, you know, is Chicago going to. Is, you know, are they this hot at the blackjack table? And you just got to, you know, they're going to end up 13 and 3 and then just get eliminated in the first playoff game they are in. Like we saw with Minnesota that year when they immediately lost to the Giants and all that. But no, and then you have the. If Aaron Rodgers plays, he never loses to the Bears.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, he owns them.

[Chuck Todd]

He owns them, the Bears. He has said this and this is one thing he likes to back up. So give me, give me the Steelers in the point.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You're going to have to take Pittsburgh. Even if it's Mason Rudolph, you're going to have to take him. Right.

[Chuck Todd]

I know. And in some ways I would, you know, you know what that means. It'll be a ugly game. It'll be. Tomlin will slow it down.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's right.

[Chuck Todd]

And he's going to have to beat him in the last minute.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. All right. Minnesota is at Green Bay. A division game. Minnesota, J.J. mcCarthy. Maybe next year, maybe not this year. Green Bay. Green Bay has looked terrible lately. Just terrible. No offense whatsoever recently, but they, you know, they're at home. Although they've lost at home. Carolina at home. Six and a half in a division game. Who you got?

[Chuck Todd]

How are the packers favored by this many points over anybody after what they've done? I don't know this one. The only reason I'm tempt, I'm probably, I'm going to go ahead and take Green Bay. Is that the line seems so high that you shouldn't take them. But Minnesota, this could be it. They're out. I mean, that loss to the Bears kind of eliminated them.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yep.

[Chuck Todd]

Like right. Their season. I agree. So they could be, you know, this, this may explain why the line shot up that way. Either way, what do you think they really think of Sam Darnold?

[Tony Kornheiser]

This is an interesting thing because on the PTI show, we asked Jeff Saturday that and he said, no, no, no. You have to understand, they love Sam Darnold. Even with Sam Darnold having a terrible game, they had a field goal at the end to win and it was just five feet wide. Right. He believes that the people on that team do not doubt Sam Darnold. I looking on from the outside and remembering the jets and the last few games last year in Minnesota, I would doubt Sam Donald.

[Chuck Todd]

Oh, I'm talking about Minnesota, though. I'm talking. Don't you think Minnesota wishes they had Sam Donald?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh, this year? Sure. Yeah, sure. But I mean, if you're in Seattle, I thought you were asking, like, Minnesota. Okay.

[Chuck Todd]

Because this JJ McCarthy thing just not working yet. And I don't mean to be a hater here, but I never saw the evidence in college that this guy was a. I never. That's never understood the first round, the whole hype around him. Yeah, that was never understood. It and I think it's revealing itself now. Ditto with Bo Nix, by the way.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So you will take Green Bay?

[Chuck Todd]

I'm going to take Green Bay, but I don't know if they should be favored by that much. But it tells me that. That they may think Minnesota's quitting Indianapolis.

[Tony Kornheiser]

This is a line that surprises me. Indianapolis is plus three and a half at Kansas City. At some point you see enough in Kansas City where you go, you know what? It's not last year, it's not the year before, it's not the year before that. It's not their year. This year they're 5 and 5. Indianapolis is what, like 8 and 2 or something like that?

[Chuck Todd]

And up a by, by the way.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Indianapolis plus three and a half. I'm a little surprised. Are you?

[Chuck Todd]

That's a little high. I. I thought they were going to do two and somewhere in the one to two range, but three and a half, that's an easy hook man you get to have. Because if Kansas City wins this, it's because he drives down at the last minute and they kick a field goal to win it, right?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes.

[Chuck Todd]

Right. So I think that half, that's one of those hooks that feels like it's very valuable.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So you're going to take. You'll take Indy.

[Chuck Todd]

Indy plus that. Three and a half.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Here's another line that is, I guess it is explained by the fact that it's a division game. That's the only thing I can think of. Philadelphia at Dallas. Philadelphia minus three and a half. I thought that would be at least five. At least five. And I know Philadelphia doesn't score a lot of points, but they smother you on defense most of the time. So who will you take in this game?

[Chuck Todd]

What's your sense of the emotional high and low that the Cowboys were on on Monday night I, I was.

[Tony Kornheiser]

They looked really good on offense. I mean, Pickens and Lamb, Dak Prescott was finding them. They looked very good, but against a terrible team.

[Chuck Todd]

Right. And how much of that was them wanting to play well on an emotional night? Right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes. Because they lost a teammate. Yes.

[Chuck Todd]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes.

[Chuck Todd]

Yeah. I just have a feeling that you get really up for something like that. And I don't care if you're facing your most hated divisional rival, which in this case these days, it is the Eagles. I think for Cowboys fans, sorry, Washington fans, but I think they hate the Eagles more than any other of that division these days. I don't know. Give me the. Give me the Eagles. I'm not going to get in front of. Put it this way. I am tired of trying to bet against the Eagles. Yeah, they. That, that defense, they're. They're like a python. They just suffocate. Right. They just squeeze the life out of teams.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I agree with that. I agree with that. Okay. And Dallas has no particular defense. Quinn and Williams is not going to win 10 games by himself.

[Chuck Todd]

All right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No.

[Chuck Todd]

This should be the A.J. brown has a big game game maybe. Right. Because you're maybe, you know, theory, but maybe they won't care.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Now Tampa Bay is at the Rams. The Rams. Let's not get crazy here. The Rams should have won that game by 20 to 30 points and they didn't. They almost lost that game at the end. The Rams, they had a field goal. Seattle had a field goal from 61 yards to win that game. Tampa Bay is a solid team. A lot of, you know, Baker Mayfield's had a great year. They have a lot of people hurt all the time. If I was thinking there might be a letdown, I think I might think of it this week.

[Chuck Todd]

What about you give me that line one more time.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Seven have it.

[Chuck Todd]

That's a big number. And on a team that I. This could be an NFC championship game preview.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, could be though. Tampa. Tampa's lost three in a row. They have fallen. They have fallen.

[Chuck Todd]

Well, they were. Dude, every who's not injured on that team.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's right. That's right.

[Chuck Todd]

Right. But they were in that Buffalo game the whole time until sort of they ran out of gas. That's a lot of points. Give me the. Give me the fight in Mayfields.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, Tampa Bay. And one more game. Another seven point line. Carolina, which ultimately beat Atlanta. Atlanta is the biggest fraud in the States United universe. Just stop telling me.

[Chuck Todd]

Can you do something for me, by the way? I need a. I, I keep betting On Atlanta. I keep looking for ways to bet on Atlanta. I have to stop.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You have to stop a problem. Intervention.

[Chuck Todd]

I have. I have.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I need an Atlanta intervention.

[Chuck Todd]

Whatever it takes to keep me from betting on Atlanta.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Frauds. They're just frauds. Atlanta. Carolina beat them. Carolina's record is so much better than you think it is. But when you see them, you don't. You're not really sure at San Francisco. San Francisco won easily over Arizona the other week, but, you know, and they got Brock Purdy back, but they still have a bunch of people hurt. Seven's a pretty big number, but San Francisco is a pretty good team. Pretty good team. Anyway, will you take the number?

[Chuck Todd]

And I will say, you know, there was a lot of this chatter that, oh, maybe there's no difference between Mac Jones and Brock Purdy. There's a big difference.

[Tony Kornheiser]

There's a difference. Mac Jones did a good job. The other guy's better.

[Chuck Todd]

Correct. He's. You know what? And it's a really good living to be a backup quarterback in the NFL.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Chuck Todd]

Right. So there's no shame in getting a bigger career backup, because you also will have a future in TV commercials. I love those.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes, those answered fun substitutes. Yeah.

[Chuck Todd]

These guys. And you're like Teddy Bridgewater. Oh, and as the. As the guy who will listen. I love that. So give me the Niners.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You take the Niners. And ultimately taking three home teams. I don't know that that matters to you.

[Chuck Todd]

Is there a home field in the NFL these days?

[Tony Kornheiser]

I don't know. I don't. I'm not. When Green Bay loses to Carolina at Lambeau, you know, I wonder if there's.

[Chuck Todd]

No home field there. Where is there a home field?

[Tony Kornheiser]

All righty. All right. Best of luck. We want you to have a big week. Thank you, Chuck.

[Chuck Todd]

I need it. I need it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Chuck Todd, boys and girls. And if that's all we gave you was Chuck Todd, you'd be ecstatic. Cause he's wonderful at this, takes it seriously. But we give you a monkey. See the monkey he scrit scritch sing along everybody watching his iPad Smoking and.

[Luke Russert]

Laughing Hanging with Bud Grant tap, tap.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Tapping on his purple attache Nigel's going to the zoo, zoo, zoo Reginald's got.

[Luke Russert]

The vice buy, too Sometimes he throws poo, poo poo and he's had too.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Much Johnnie Walker blue so was he down at the zoo or did he move into a condo?

[Reginald the Monkey]

How did he do last week? It was not a good week for him.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Was 1 and 2. He's 17 and 20 he's stuck in the 1 and 2 rock.

[Reginald the Monkey]

Yeah, that's his. That's his fate. Well, I did go down to the National Zoo yesterday to. To chat with him and he was busy finishing up a practice. I don't know if you're aware of this. He's attempting to swim the English Channel.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I didn't know that. He and Gertrude Ederle.

[Reginald the Monkey]

Well, I think that's his inspiration.

[Tony Kornheiser]

The problem is nobody knows who Gertrude Edley is but me. I'm the only person who knows.

[Reginald the Monkey]

I would not have been able to.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Pull that Gertrude Eddily.

[Reginald the Monkey]

So he's busy practicing on the Potomac, which doesn't make a lot of sense because it's not nearly as wide as the English Channel. But his team has confidence in him and they're feeling good about it. So he introduced me to his team, the brain trust behind this training. You'd love these names. Mickey Dolenz is there.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Sure.

[Reginald the Monkey]

Guillermo Vilas, Thomas the Hitman Hearns and John Daly.

[Tony Kornheiser]

There you go.

[Reginald the Monkey]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

John Daly.

[Reginald the Monkey]

Can't lose with those four.

[Tony Kornheiser]

John Daly. No, you can't lose with him. Absolutely not.

[Reginald the Monkey]

So we would took a moment to break from practice to go over these matches.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What do we got?

[Reginald the Monkey]

First one we gave him was the Bills at home giving six.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I'm sorry.

[Reginald the Monkey]

On the road giving six to the Texans. And he showed me a lovely, very old photograph of him riding in a dirigible alongside Marv Levy, Phil's mom and Andre Reed.

[Tony Kornheiser]

There you go.

[Reginald the Monkey]

Tells me he got ties to the Buffalo area.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He's going to Buffalo. Yeah.

[Reginald the Monkey]

Lay the six. The next match we gave him was Kansas City at home giving three and a half to the Colts. And this was. This is a very old photograph of him. Reginald. That is planting potatoes in a massive garden. And alongside, helping him, George Brett Priest Holmes and Larry Gore.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Kansas City.

[Reginald the Monkey]

Tells me he got ties to Kansas City.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I think I would take Buffalo, too, over Houston. I do. I know Chuck didn't, but I was.

[Reginald the Monkey]

Surprised after all that praise he gave Josh Allen. How could you pick against Josh Allen after what he just did?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Stroud's out. Yeah.

[Reginald the Monkey]

The last match we gave him was the Rams at home giving seven to Tampa Bay. I wasn't sure which way he was going to go with this, but he showed me a nice picture of him surfing off Malibu with Vince Veragamo, Willie Flipper Anderson and Davey Lopes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So he's going with la.

[Reginald the Monkey]

Going with la.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He's going with la. So he's going differently completely than Chuck. Yeah. Well, let's See if it works.

[Reginald the Monkey]

It usually hasn't.

[Tony Kornheiser]

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There we go. All right, Booger McFarlane joins us. And there is a story, a rather large story. I mean, the predominant story in college football this year has been the firing of coaches. Brian Kelly was fired. James Franklin was fired. Ended up signing yesterday at Virginia Tech, which is probably a very good move for him. A bunch of guys were fired. The coach at Virginia Tech was fired, obviously making room for James Franklin. Franklin, I think the coach at Oregon State was fired. Oklahoma State was fired. Guy had been there 20 years and was an alum. This is the big deal. And Ole Miss doesn't want to fire Lane Kiffin and doesn't want to lose Lane Kiffin. And there are two huge jobs out there, LSU and Florida, who have each won more national championships than Mississippi. Can you explain, Booger, what is what Ole Miss is doing with Lane Kiffin? Are they playing a dangerous game with him?

[Booger McFarland]

Well, I don't know if they're playing a dangerous game. I think what's happening now, based on what I know what I read, is, you know, Ole Miss is very happy with the coach that they have, and they're trying to figure out a way to keep him. And, you know, they don't know that he's leaving. They heard rumors that he may be entertaining other schools. And so I think it's no different than any other company when you have a really high performing employee. Said employee is being wooed by competitors. And so you're trying to do what it takes to keep your employee. I think that's the, you know, to kind of put it in layman's terms for everyone out there, that's what Ole Miss is dealing with.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I thought they were like, you know, trying to put a deadline on him during the regular season to let them know does he intend to stay or go, while also leaking the notion that they would pay him, they would match anything that either Florida or LSU gave him. If that is true, if they want to know, it seems reasonable to me to want to know. But it's not like you're gonna fire him. You can't fire him. You're gonna be in the playoffs. You haven't been in the playoffs ever. You can't really fire him, right?

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah, I don't think you can. But, I mean, I think Lane was on the Pat McAfee show today and he said emphatically, there is no deadline. So those are his words, not mine.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right.

[Booger McFarland]

And he said that there was no deadline. However, I think that even though there may not be a deadline, I think, you know, more people, people that are involved want to know sooner than later.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes.

[Booger McFarland]

So I think he was very forthcoming today, his words, and basically saying there is no deadline. He's getting ready for the Egg Bowl. But I think we all understand that there's a lot going on right now as far as him, and he's trying to figure out what he's going to do for him and his family. I think he's. He's earned the right. Just like any high performing employee, he's earned the right to benefit off of his success. And whether or not he chooses to do that. I think everyone in the coaching world in college football wants to know, including, you know, guys that work in the media like myself.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He's basically got one foot in the transfer portal, doesn't he?

[Booger McFarland]

That you know what that sounds, I guess from a simplistic way to put it, sounds like he has one foot in the transfer portal. You know, the portal. You're either in the portal or out of it. It's like being pregnant. Like you're not a little bit pregnant in or out. I think in this coaching thing it's a ballet act because there are agents involved, because of the timing, because of schools involved. Like there's so many things involved that I think makes it a little bit of a high wire act. I think Virginia Tech was smart to get out front of it and hire Link. Hire Franklin. Franklin, yeah, I think they were super smart by that. But that's just the first domino. There's so many other dominoes. I think they're like 11 power, four jobs that are open. It's going to be a wild period over the next two to three weeks and it's probably going to happen sooner than that because of the schedule and recruiting and all that good stuff.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So let me, for people that don't know this because there may not be fans of Ole Miss and they don't know, let me just, just set the record out there. Lane Kiffin has had five double digit win seasons in the past six years. That's greater than Mississippi has had in the last 50 years. It's obvious Lane Kiffin knows what he's doing. You went to lsu, you know the SEC in your mind, can Ole Miss compete with LSU in Florida from a football standpoint. And a second question, from a money standpoint.

[Booger McFarland]

Well, I'm biased. I think the best job that's open right now is lsu. Of course, I think when you look at all the things involved, I think you would, a lot of people would agree. However, let's just look at where we are in College Football in 2025. We're in the transfer portal nil era and ole misses nil is as good as anybody in America.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay?

[Booger McFarland]

In layman's terms, they have as much money as anybody outside of probably Oregon and A and M, which can go in the ground and get more money.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right?

[Booger McFarland]

That's number one. Number two, I think there's something to be said for having something established already. Look at the blue bloods of college football. LSU and Florida are one of them. Florida, Florida Stadium seats 92,000. LSU Stadium seats 104,000.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right.

[Booger McFarland]

Like, those are mega boxes when it comes to college football. The state of Florida is as fertile in recruiting as probably a sea turtle. Same way as Louisiana. Like, it is super fertile.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

So when it comes to the. Your ability and proximity to players, you're not going to get that in Mississippi. So I think there are a lot of pros for LSU in Florida, but there's also a lot of pros for Ole Miss based on. Based on their. Their money. They said they can match anybody. They're collective. They were one of the first ones to set up Nil. So they have all the kinks figured out. It's going to be a tough decision because do you stay with the status quo and what you've already built, or do you go and look for something new? I don't envy Lane if this is a decision he's got to make.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You are an LSU guy. Maybe you know this. Do you think LSU wants Lane Kiffin?

[Booger McFarland]

I think there's a list of coaches that LSU is going to entertain. Do I think Lane Kiffin is on that list? Most likely. I think. I think you have to. I think he's got to be on the list. Is he the only guy on the list? I can 100% say that he's not the only person on the list, but he's definitely someone on the short list because of the success that he's had. And when you're looking for a coach at one of the blue bloods, the question you ask yourself is, has he done more with less? And I think everybody would agree he's done that at Mississippi. So now you're willing to give him more than what he's had. And I think Florida and LSU feel like they can offer him more. If they are, they are truly after him.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He's. He's born and raised in the North. His father was a great coach, Monty Kiffin, but he didn't spend a whole lot of time in the South. You have been critical of the fit between Brian Kelly and lsu. Would you be afraid of the fit with Lane Kiffin or the fact that he coached at Ole Miss? That makes you feel. No, no, it's okay now. He's been there. Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

I think because he's been in the Southeast at Ole Miss. He's been down in Florida, some smaller schools. I played for his dad, Monica, and his dad was absolutely outstanding. I've known Lane and his brother Chris for 20, 25 years.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Wow.

[Booger McFarland]

You know, just because their dad coached us in Tampa and they would come around all the time. So, you know, you always bring your family around. So I think Florida thinks he's a fit. I think a few years ago, I want to say four years ago, Auburn wanted to hire Lane Kiffin. So every school realizes that he's been around the Southeast, so I think he could fit anywhere. He was the offensive coordinator at Alabama, so I think Lane has been at the Southeast. He coached at Tennessee. So, like, when you look at his career, he may not be from the south, but he's been to four or five different SEC schools as a coach, an oc, a quality control guy. So he's very familiar with the south, which is why I think Florida, LSU, and other schools have had some interest in him.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I remember this. The minute that Florida fired Billy Napier, Lane Kiffin's name came up in the next sentence. In the next sentence, it seemed like they really wanted him. Do you have that sense?

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah. I think he's Slaughter's number one guy. Based on everything I've heard, I think Florida is putting all their eggs in the Lane Kiffin basket. Whether or not they get rewarded, we'll see. But I think I agree with you. I did hear the same thing. Maybe not even the next sentence. Maybe it was in the same sentence. I don't even know if they used the comma in the sentence.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. So where. Like, just take a shot. Where do you think Lane Kiffin will be coaching next year?

[Booger McFarland]

Ole Miss.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Really? Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

I just think that. I think from a standpoint of happiness in your life, stability in your coaching profession. If you gave me 100 bucks of your money, I would put it on Ole Miss.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. Okay. Not your own money. My money. That's fine. Let me get you out of here on this. James Franklin at Virginia Tech. You go from the Big Ten to the acc. It's a winnable conference, much more winnable than the Big Ten. You go to a school that, when Frank Beamer was there, went to bowl games every single year and was ranked in the top 10 at some point. You know, in a season, nine of 12 seasons in a row, this is a place. This is a place with a football name in a place where you can win. Can James Franklin win there?

[Booger McFarland]

Yes, he can. Think about James Franklin. He was at Vanderbilt. He won eight or nine games there, took them to a bowl game, so they'd never done. Think about where Nashville, Tennessee is now. Let's go to Happy Valley. Penn State. I realize it's in the middle of nowhere, but it's in Pennsylvania. So now you go to. To Blacksburg. Virginia, these like, it's a very central area of where he's been, where he's worked at, and kind of where he's going to be. I think he understands the lay of the land from a recruiting standpoint. I think he will, he will be successful. And think about this, Tony. If he just does what he did at Penn State, they'll build a statue.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Sure, sure.

[Booger McFarland]

If he, if he just goes, if he wins nine, 10 games a year, they'll build a statue. And I think, you know, Virginia Tech, it said they're going to put some money into the program, so they're going to beef up the nil, which is the name of the game right now. And so I think when it's all said and done, I think James will be successful. And you know what they always say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And when he was at Penn State, they didn't think that it looked really good. Well, Virginia Tech's going to think he's like a, like a Runway model wearing a bikini every day.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I agree with this that, you know, you're not going to have to play as many top 10 teams. That was, that was his undoing. He was like 4 and 21 against top 10 teams in the Big Ten. You don't see that in the AC. It's the different. It's not, it's not that way. So I also, I agree with you that he will be successful there. I do. It's a pleasure to have you not just on television, but on the podcast too. Thank you, Booger.

[Booger McFarland]

Always take it east, Tony.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Thank you, Brother Booger McFarland boys and girls, lovely to have them. We will have email and jingle when we return. I am Tony Kornheiser.

[Guest or Producer]

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[Luke Russert]

This is the Tony Kornizer show. Here comes Tony's mailbag. Got your email, faxes and your notes. Here comes Tony's mailbag. Gonna read some for all ya folks. Hey Tony, come on, come on. Hey Jonas.

[Booger McFarland]

Read that mail now, baby.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Love that, love that. Love hot pink hangover.

[Chuck Todd]

So great.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Love hot pink hangover. You want to do the Bethesda Bagel there.

[Reginald the Monkey]

Yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Look very happy to get bagels.

[Reginald the Monkey]

Good day to be in.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Reginald the Monkey]

Bethesda Bagels, we love them. You will as well. Just go to Bethesda Bagels.com for the location in the DC area near Shoes and pop one in and you'll be thrilled.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Before we get to the mailbag, let me just say you broke my heart because I couldn't dance, you didn't even want me around. And now I'm back to let you know I can really shake them down. Do you love me? Those are the contours. That's a. That's their only hit. That's their only. But it's worth it. Yeah, It's a great hit.

[Reginald the Monkey]

And it's featured in a pretty good movie.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes, it is. Thanks to our guests today. Chuck Todd, Booger McFarlane, Luke Russert. Thanks as well to today's sponsors. Remember, you can listen to us on Apple podcasts, Spotify and Audacy if you get showed through Apple. Please leave us a review from Glenn Burgetz. Chuck And Roxy, number 295. He's from Norwegian. Soft kitten. I'm just gonna interrupt you. You did the Chuck and Roxy?

[Luke Russert]

I did.

[Tony Kornheiser]

How long were you on?

[Luke Russert]

Oh, my gosh. I think we were on for like an hour.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Really?

[Reginald the Monkey]

Yeah.

[Luke Russert]

They were so nice.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh, they're lovely.

[Luke Russert]

And they sent me a care package of popcorn, a sticker of the monkey on the toilet, and a Canadian flag.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No. Leblat blue.

[Luke Russert]

Yes. No. Labat blue. Unfortunately, I was missing it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

But they.

[Luke Russert]

I have the Canadian flag and I sent them a handwritten card of thanks because they were such lovely people. And. Yeah, I want. Yeah, I would like to go see the Rockettes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

We should do that.

[Luke Russert]

We should do a field trip. Go see the Rockets.

[Tony Kornheiser]

This is their season.

[Reginald the Monkey]

This is their season.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, from Thanksgiving onward.

[Chuck Todd]

Yeah.

[Luke Russert]

Great people.

[Tony Kornheiser]

From Glenn in Norwegian, Soft kitten. For years now, my golf buddy, PGA professional Alan Moyer, and I have used the phrase muffin of scrumptious delight to refer to something that's outstanding. For example, Alan crushes a drive center cut. Alan's at least as big a hitter as the llama. To which I'll say, that was a muffin of scrumptious delight. Alan will reply with a knowing smirk and a nod of the head as we have another phrase here from Steve Gilmore in San angelo, Texas. Dear Dr. Potato Man. So it's not enough for Wilbon to have the Pope and Richard Dent on a text chain. He has to have a Philadelphia one. As well, with Randall Cunningham, Clubber Lang and Ron Hextall. From Joe Rizzo, Admiral, Orange, I refresh. I offered all Bigs and littles a new term. The Wilbonian statement. It's a declaration made with high personal conviction, typically favoring Chicago, the Big Ten or the Midwest, delivered with such authority that it dismisses or outweighs contradictory data. So the namesake of the Wilbonian statement said on Monday, quote, for every school in the Big Ten, their largest alumni base is in Chicago other than their own state. So I checked, and in true Wilbonian form, it's not true. Of the 18 schools, eight fit that criteria, and neither Ohio State nor Wisconsin is included. The next largest city that fits that criteria. Why, none other than New York City with six schools. Having said that, never let the facts get in the way of a great Wilbonian statement. We live for it.

[Luke Russert]

You always would say I was the most overconfident kid you ever met. But Wilbond, different level. Different level. I'll take you the 10 minutes out.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Of your day to fact check Wilbond for George.

[Luke Russert]

Such conviction.

[Tony Kornheiser]

George McGuff or George Magog, I don't know. Waxhaw, North Carolina. After listening to the hidden ball trick, I was reminded of my own youth coaching stories. I played basketball in high school, was pretty good for suburban New Jersey, so I was very happy. When my male child wanted to play basketball at age 7, I immediately volunteered to be the head coach. At the end of our first game, we were trailing by a point with 15 seconds left in the game. I called timeout, took my son, who was very tall like I am, and our amazing little point guard aside, and I asked them if they knew what a pick and roll was. They stared at me blankly. Well, there's seven. And said no. I said, that's okay. So I told my son to stand still at the foul line and told the point guard to dribble as close to my son as possible so his defender would run into my son. I told the point guard, if my son's defender covers him, he can pass the ball to my son, who would take the shot. Everything went perfect, except our point guard decided not to pass the ball when my son's defendant guarded him. After the pick, the point guard was fouled. He went to the line, made both free throws, and we won. As we were coming off the court, I said to the point guard, do you know if you missed those foul shots, we would have lost? His response was, quote, no. Coach, what do we have for snacks after this game? Gotta love kids. They know what's really important. The next evening we had a coaches meeting. The Commissioner league who was at our game started the meeting by asking me, did you really teach 7 year olds how to run a pick and roll? I replied yes, I did and I did it during that final time out. A great moment in my youth sports coaching career. From Brian Mohler On PTI Wednesday, Wilbond said people should call him about what they should wear since I'm not on his text chain with Dent Jordan and the Pope. Great. Could you ask him what color shoes he suggests with sage gray Lululemon pants? Thanks. Oh I know that ABC pant. Thanks thanks in advance.

[Luke Russert]

Very good pants.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Nathan Ackerhelm Charlotte, North Carolina With James Franklin becoming the new head coach of Virginia Tech, I'm confident he can elevate the Chipotle in Blacksburg from good to great. But can he get it from great to elite? Hopefully Greg Garcia's son is is enrolled there and we can get frequent updates from Paul Quinn, the official Scots man of the Tony Kornheiser Show. What a night for Scotland, qualifying for the World cup for the first time in 28 years. The opener after three minutes was a spectacular overhead kick. I'm sure Wilbon won't be impressed by it, but the whole of Scotland definitely are. After being pegged twice by the Danes and seeming destined for another glorious failure, up steps Tierney in the third additional minute with a beautiful strike from 30 yards. And to top it off, Kenny McClain scores from the halfway line in the 97th minute. Three of the best goals Scotland have ever scored. I love the way they use have and has in Scotland and in all of Europe, and scenes of utter jubilation followed. All that being said, I will be venturing to North America for the World cup and depending on where Scotland are based, I was hoping for somewhere to stay. I will gladly fight creatures living in the little house for a few months to turn on the water. Failing that, I would like to charter the boat for a couple of weeks. I'm sure your exemplary navigational skills can take us where we need.

[Luke Russert]

Ireland might make the World cup too.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Is that right?

[Luke Russert]

And I believe Wales and Northern Ireland. It's going to be a rowdy affair.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Here from Tony Beeson. Today I learned that the bearcat, which is technically a bin for wrong pronounced been too wrong, been too wrong. Smells like buttered popcorn, imitates information for life. Oh, this is from Tony Ben with a picture of a bearcat. Yeah, and says officially called a binturong. The bearcat isn't actually a bear or a cat. It's a unique tree dwelling mammal native to Southeast Asia, known for its long whiskers, shaggy fur and surprisingly sweet scent. It smells like buttered popcorn. Why do we have bearcats? They're not even in America. Why are bearcats what Dan Oshinsky In Park City, Utah I know we're all breathlessly awaiting the TK deep dive into the Washington Nationals 40 man roster. I never even learned how to spell Oga Serara and he's already been DFA'd. Should be stinks. But until then, can we talk about the fact that the recent additions to the Nats front office and coaching staff are trending closer in age to the Hammer than to everyone's favorite doctor of Humane Letters? There's a new president of baseball operations Paul DeBoni, 38 manager Blake Patera, 33 pitching coach Simon Matthews, 30 but good news, they're not going to make you learn an entire roster's worth of new names in 2026, the team announced this week. Sean Doolittle Yeah, the Beltway Mitturon the Hammer plays a mean pitcher self.

[Luke Russert]

Or just asks Coach Dan I love the youth movement, but boy, those guys are really young. I know. They're really, really young. BC guy too.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. From Jim in Lutherville, Commodore Tony we have the latest in the collection of Kornhai's classic Kornheiser comments T shirts now on the shelves. A woman who curses well as a treasure assorted size is available. Call before visiting the warehouse. Use the code from Steve in Silver Spring During Monday's mailbag, I had my first legit say it out loud. I know that guy. Da moment. Steve Vladik, professor of law at Georgetown University, schooled you on the topic of businesses accepting cash. Professor Vladek, a podcaster in his own right, is both a long suffering Mets fan and perhaps the preeminent scholar today on the United States Supreme Court, a veritable big among littles. Oh, and Congrats on recently shooting 92. Great job shooting your age, Grandpa. Wow, thanks Mike Davis in Charlotte. We are YouTube TV subscribers and tonight the woman to whom I'm related by marriage said, tonight you can watch your boys Tony and Mike. Then, without missing a beat, she said, is that a big deal? Little deal or no deal? That's funny. From Cher, the haiku paperless tickets elimination of cash. You are not of this world. I am not. From Jason Blazer in Lake Orion or Lake Orion, Michigan. I feel obliged to drop a line since it's been a while. How Are the potatoes. They're still in a bag. Still in the house. Melting Curing for next season. Mark Lynch, Camby, Indiana. My auto assigned roommate at Purdue freshman year was from Crown Point, Indiana. He was gross. I don't know if all people from Crown Point are gross, but maybe it's great if you're out on your bike. Tight everyone is always do wear white.

[Musician or Singer]

Who made the egg salad sandwiches? Oh, won't you pray? Zeus, Ms. Vatong. You see he took my diamond ring and take most anything Stopped off in Tennessee to kill a bumblebee his life is full of sin he'll kill most anything. G on the jet Clarity not calamity I offered God and grace she let him touch her face and when the sky fell in my head began to spin and when I awoke I saw my leg was broken. Misfits on the loose. I check their alley by but it's not my kind of thing to look for wedding rings I bet they make quite a pair at the county fair I didn't do no good I offered what I could.

[Booger McFarland]

Movie.

[Musician or Singer]

A misfits on a misfits on a misfits Misfits on the loose. Misfits I'm loose. He come to me and the middle of the night darkness all it was inside. You said you might lost your home and you didn't want to be alone no. You know you dared trouble once and you dared it twice I didn't take nobody's advice. You thought maybe that you could change your name but you knew that you'd always look the same.

[Luke Russert]

Sing.

[Musician or Singer]

Look, sing look sing. Look soon. As you wake up another day passed on with the name you say it's on your lips when you say good night it's on your mind it's on your mind like a firelight.

[Chuck Todd]

And when.

[Musician or Singer]

You came here onto my shore I knew you knew what you were looking for I knew you wouldn't find it there or maybe even anywhere Anywhere, anywhere anywhere, Anywhere. It's hard to know Just what to.

[Luke Russert]

Take.

[Musician or Singer]

Just what to take Everything that's in the wake that's in the wake Everything that came before that came before Came and knocked upon my door Came and knocked upon my door and here you find a place to lay.

[Guest or Producer]

Drag.

[Musician or Singer]

Skin and walk the plague to drive a steak and lay a plane to get a thing that doesn't mean. After you left and then you came Then you came to me.

[Luke Russert]

To me.

[Musician or Singer]

Thank you. It.