E (1:57)

How about that?

A (1:58)

Listen this. He gave 32 and a half. Ohio State -32 and a half against Rutgers, 33 point spread. He wins. Yeah. Wins by half a point. Duke minus six and a half against North Carolina. Duke wins by seven. Wins by a half a point. He was 4, 0 and 1. He's leading. He's 37, 241 James had a tough day again. James had a tough.

E (2:17)

Yeah, I saw a couple of the games coming in. I was like, oh, this is not going his way.

B (2:21)

We'll hear from him in two weeks.

A (2:23)

One, four and one. He had a bad day. Chuck Todd, bad day at the end. Didn't have a great day. I mean, he's still got one more game to go. But Chuck Todd is three and three at the moment.

E (2:33)

So the monkey one. Monkey one and two again.

A (2:35)

Yeah, monkey. Monkey stinks. So let me just get to this. I don't know. I don't know that I would ever voluntarily get in what's called a Waymo.

B (2:47)

Waymo self driving car.

A (2:49)

I don't know that. What does Waymo stand for?

B (2:51)

I'll look that up.

A (2:51)

It's way more dangerous than you thought. That's what I would think it stands for. Way more dangerous than you thought. So I would not get in one of those. Michael, would you get in one of those?

B (3:02)

I would get in version 2 or 3. I don't know where we are yet.

A (3:05)

Okay. Nigel, would you get in one of those?

B (3:08)

No, but depends on where I'm going. So if it was a straight shot from my house to an airport at the right time of day, I would do that. But actually the most chaotic place is the departure line at any airport.

A (3:21)

I would not do this. Okay, I got enough. I got a note from Melman. Melman says they're great. Really? Melman believes in them. He believes in them.

E (3:30)

He believes this is what they look like. If you've seen it.

A (3:33)

Look like cars.

E (3:34)

Yeah, but lots of like sort of sensors on the.

B (3:36)

Yeah, you see them all the time.

A (3:37)

Collect. That's what Peter says. Yeah, Peter says that they're safe. They. They are way ahead in terms of feedback into the car and when you have to stop and what you have to do. Okay. I'm not that trusting a person.

B (3:49)

I would not particularly where we live, where. Where the D.C. roads are very dangerous right now and gotten more so in the last 10 years.

A (3:55)

Just would not, you know. I would not. Yeah. Because of these dopey bike lanes, you know? Yeah.

B (4:00)

I would double parking for everything. You go around Wisconsin and Connecticut Avenue.

A (4:04)

The Massachusetts Avenue allows parking. It's like a very, very busy street. Only two lanes on each side and has parking. You know, it just. It just. Yeah.

E (4:14)

Some lanes go one way at some times of the day, so.

A (4:17)

Awful. By the way, I would not get in one of these. I would. I would not.

E (4:20)

It's not a surprise at all.

A (4:21)

No, I. No, nobody Would bet that I would get in one of these.

B (4:25)

But Im say for the 25 years that you were commuting downtown every day, imagine what you could accomplish if you.

A (4:30)

Picked really slow, never going really fast.

B (4:33)

Right.

A (4:34)

So I would think even in a head on situation, it wouldn't be fair.

B (4:37)

But you would never trust their route.

A (4:38)

I, I, you know, no.

E (4:40)

And there's no one to talk to, to be like, why are you going this way?

A (4:43)

Yeah, let's go left. What are you doing? Yeah, I wouldn't do it.

E (4:47)

So Waymo, I'm looking up here, it says way mobility offered or more broadly a new way forward in mobility. That's what Waymo means.

A (4:56)

So not way more crazy than it takes for me to get in the car. Okay, fair enough. So yeah, that's. Wow. I wouldn't do that. Beautiful weekend in Washington for the one day that I went out, which was Sunday. Played yesterday. Played well for me. I shot 90, which is par for me. I'm a 20. It's par.

B (5:18)

Full experience. You go turkey club or change it up? No, no cup of soup.

A (5:23)

No turkey club and light beer.

E (5:26)

Draft with the fries, obviously.

A (5:28)

Oh, with the fries.

B (5:28)

It's just the good fries.

A (5:30)

All I wanted, just, just all I wanted. I was so happy. And, and again, I, I made a couple of bad shots, but nothing so terrible that I went, oh, you stink. You know, it was okay. I advanced the ball. I had a good time. I did. So I was, I was happy about that. I have a, a small thing to talk about and it requires participation from the other people. Michael, have you ever heard a fox make a noise?

B (5:58)

I don't think I ever have.

A (5:59)

Nigel, have you ever heard fox make a noise? You go hiking, but you hike during the day when foxes are. They're nocturnal animals.

E (6:05)

I have seen foxes out in Great Falls. I don't believe I've heard them out there, but I have heard on like videos of them. You know, sort of okay. Barking or whatever.

A (6:14)

I had never. Now again, what, what it is required that you understand this. I did not know this till a few months ago. I thought a fox was a member of the feline family, the cat family. It's. No, they're dogs.

E (6:28)

Yes.

A (6:28)

I had no idea they were dogs. They don't look like dogs. They don't run like dogs. They don't have habits like dogs. The dogs are not. Dogs are not nocturnal. Dogs are up when you're up. If you're up in the middle of the night, dogs up. But you know, you know, I thought so I Don't know much about foxes except that I have seen them. They are always. Not always, but they are largely magnificent. They are very long from end to end. Their tails are much longer than you think that body should support. And they're cool looking. Okay. Except the ones that are mangy and you don't want them near you because they're rabid.

E (7:05)

Yeah, probably rabid.

A (7:06)

Yeah. But you don't see them often. Like they're not. They're not visible animals. You own cats? Yes. Do cats talk?

E (7:14)

Oh, sure.

A (7:15)

They make sounds a lot.

E (7:16)

They'll talk it. I mean mine, I mean, I think, yes, mine particularly. Talk to me.

A (7:21)

Okay.

E (7:21)

A lot of times I'll get crying from the other room. Just wants me to come in there and pay attention to.

A (7:25)

Okay. But it's not. They don't bark.

E (7:28)

No.

A (7:28)

They mew.

E (7:29)

Yeah.

A (7:30)

Meow.

E (7:30)

Sort of chirp at you.

A (7:31)

Okay. Okay. So I had never in my life heard a fox make a sound. I had seen them run. They stop, they look at you, they get out of your way. They. They don't want. They're not confrontational with people. No. My dog Jesse has a sense of foxes that she has sometimes with other dogs. But Jesse can let other dogs go sometimes. She doesn't. Not all dogs bother her every single time. Now everybody has foxes in their neighborhoods unless they live in Manhattan. Unless if you live in an up and down apartment style city thing, you probably don't have foxes. So. But I live in a neighborhood with single family dwellings. Okay. So there are foxes here. There are foxes, for example, on all golf courses. And you can see them if you go around and make dents in the sand trap. Oh yeah. They make holes in the sand trap. They try to live in the sand. Okay. So foxes are weird sort of animals. I'd never heard them make a sound. Jesse has a sense of foxes and wants to get them, wants to go after them. I got a tug on that leash when she sees a fox.

E (8:42)

Blood feud.

A (8:45)

Tonight is. So Sunday night was last night. No, deep into Saturday. Not deep into Saturday night, but sunsets at about 5 o'. Clock. Now Chess and I went out about 8:30 at night. There was a fox in the street. Now probably foxes are.

B (9:02)

It's early.

A (9:03)

Yeah. Foxes are territorial and foxes, I believe, stake out a home base and stay there. I don't think they meander. I don't think they have. I don't think that lasts, you know, a mile and a half. I think that's rather localized. I think I'm right on this rather Localized, I would say.

E (9:18)

That's probably right. Yeah.

A (9:19)

This thing was standing in the middle of the road. I didn't even see it. Jesse started tugging. I hold the leash, and then I look at this fox. The fox isn't going anywhere. Then when Jesse tugs again, the fox begins to move, but not in the way that I'm used to a fox movie. Not in that quick darting way where. That they know exactly where they're going and you're not going there, and they want to be rid of you. And then the fox began to do something that I would only charitably call a bark. I'd never heard this before. It sounded. It was much more high pitched than a dog. Even a small dog. Much more high pitched than even a small dog. Certainly a dog. A dog that would be the size of a fox. It was much more high pitched than you would ever imagine. It sounded like a bird call. And it was repetitive, as if it was indeed reaching out to another fox for confirmation that that other fox was in the area. I didn't hear any return. Sometimes with birds, you hear a return. Yeah, sure. They're like there's 87 million varieties of birds, and they all have a different sound. They have a different sound and they call out, and it's repetitive. They'll do it three or four times or five times in, I don't know, 30 seconds. And there's. It feels like a searchlight of some sort. Yeah. To contact something else in their species.

B (10:49)

I like the fires that. Playing telephone.

A (10:51)

Okay.

D (10:52)

Story.

B (10:52)

Morning glory.

A (10:53)

Right, right. What's it. Yeah. What's a word? Hummingbird. Yeah. Tell me quick about you going, Kim. Why did you do that? Now I'm doing Bye bye birdie from, I don't know, 80 years ago. I'm doing it. So I don't know. I'd like somebody to write in who knows about foxes and knows about their habits. I was amazed at the sound. It was nothing like I thought the sound would be. And it was, to me, a definite call out to what? You would only call out to your own species. Right.

B (11:22)

So you think it was a call out to another fox? Not just a territory. This is mine to you and I don't know.

A (11:27)

Well, I don't. I'd never seen it before. I'd never heard it before. You've never heard one. I've never heard one. In the wild, you've never heard one.

B (11:34)

So normally for me, it's like whenever you encounter a fox in your neighbor, it becomes a very sick still moment. And the fox Will lock eyes with you even for up to 40 or 50 yards. And it feels like it's just the two of you. And the way.

A (11:47)

If you. If you go towards them, they leave.

E (11:50)

Yeah.

A (11:50)

And they. And they're quick.

E (11:52)

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

A (11:53)

They're quick.

E (11:53)

They assess the situation. Maybe he was. I'm assuming it was a he.

A (11:57)

I don't know.

E (11:57)

But it could have been a sheep. Maybe it was calling out, there's a big dog in my area. I'm calling in backup. Or it was reaching out to Chesapeake. Like, are you my cousin? You're a little bigger than I am. But now we related.

A (12:09)

Jesse got to that fox. That's the end of the fox. Yeah, it's the end of the fox. And yes, he had. Had meanness on her.

B (12:16)

Different weight class. I think that fox is like a medium 40 to 60 pound fox.

A (12:21)

Didn't look to me to be more than £20. Yeah, but slinky.

E (12:25)

Yes, but fast.

A (12:26)

All very fast. I mean, I assume that the fox could outrun the dog. Yeah. I don't know the fox and the.

B (12:31)

Hounds, you know, but I definitely outsmart the dog.

A (12:33)

Yeah, certainly outsmart.

B (12:35)

So it's a long game.

A (12:36)

I'm curious if everybody, you know, if anybody's heard the same thing, or is this just a weird thing and not endemic to the fox breed. But again, I'd never. It was not like a dog. Like you, in other words, you're telling me this is a dog? It doesn't sound like a dog. It doesn't. Well, I didn't know that. It doesn't look like a dog, doesn't act like a dog, and now it doesn't sound like a dog. Unless I had a miscreant fox, you know, a weird fox on some level. I don't know. What do you think?

B (13:08)

No, I think this is. I think this probably was a fox alerting to you. This is mine. We're getting ready for a long winter, and I'm protecting either family, food source, or where I live.

A (13:19)

Okay. Okay. But I want to. I'm sure there are people out there who can tell me about this. Oh, yes, because they can tell me about so many things. Like propane, you know, they all know about propane. Maybe they know about this fox. All right, we will take a break. Michael Wilbon. When we return. I'm Tony Kornheiser. This is the Tony Kornheiser Show. You know how there's always that one person in the family who somehow wins Christmas every year? The one whose gifts make everyone else's look kind of basic. Yeah. This year, make sure that person is you because aura frames are basically the cheat code for winning the holidays. I have an aura frame. I really love it.

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B (15:14)

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A (15:21)

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D (16:39)

Well, Tony, we are women. Our field hockey team, which was already the defending champion and had won two of the last three championships, defended, successfully defended the title this weekend against North Carolina Friday in the semis in the Final Four and then beat Princeton yesterday in double overtime for, as you stated, the NCAA championship, which is, you know, it's.

C (17:06)

It's a.

D (17:06)

It's a. I would think those sorts of things are a thrill no matter how big your school is, how small your school is.

A (17:14)

Championship.

D (17:16)

Championship. Yeah, yeah. And so Tracy Fuchs and that team back to back championships in field hockey. And so the sports that our women's sports are just on fire. The last five years, we won the golf championship in the spring. We've, you know, been in the final. We were in the final four. Defending champions in lacrosse did not win the championship. I think North Carolina did that. We were in the final Four in the championship game. So it's been for those three sports, it's just like every year. Final Four. Final Four. Final Four or final, you know, a tournament in the case of women's golf. So it's thrilling. It was, I watched. It was on at a tough time for, for me, one o' clock football Sunday with the Bears on. But I got enough TVs on a wall where I could watch both. And so it was, it was a thrilling day that, you know, our men's basketball team won a game against South Carolina last night. But that's not like winning the national championship and seeing your school do it. So that was a lot of fun and took the edge off me with the Bears out. But it was in keeping double overtime with exactly the way the Bears play, as you know, because you've seen all these games every week too.

A (18:33)

I'll get to the Bears in a second. The women at Northwestern are very good in what Mike has called the stick sports. I will confess to you, I have never seen one second of field hockey. I don't even know how many players are on the team. I sort of. Is it sort of the same as lacrosse, but with fewer or more play. I don't know.

D (18:54)

You know, the rules are such that you've gotta have seen it. And most people, you know, probably have not seen. Although we were talking about, you know, an Olympic sport.

A (19:04)

Yeah.

D (19:05)

And international. Very international.

A (19:07)

I've seen men play it, but I don't ever recall seeing women. And I don't send. Sometimes the rules are different and sometimes the amount of people are different. So I don't know.

D (19:16)

Yes. And the rules, you know, I'm still getting used to it. I've watched it. I've gone to see it in person. Went to see us play against Michigan. I happen to be on campus one day and I said, let me go and watch a team that, you know, actually, you know how much I support and obsess over basketball and football teams. And I'm always going to do that, but I'm like, let me go support a team that actually wins something at the highest level possible.

A (19:40)

Yeah.

D (19:42)

And it's fun to do. It's, you know, we've got a beautiful stadium on campus to watch it in. But it is different, Tony. And I'm not going to profess to know all the rules. There were things that happened yesterday that I'm like, okay, why is there a corner here? Or why? So I'm still getting used to it and I'm glad I can watch it with my own school and our own brand and watch it. And I need to get more accustomed to it.

A (20:07)

All right, let's go to the Bears. I will say, and I know I speak for you, it's astonishing where the Bears are. It's astonishing what their record is. It's astonishing how well they have played. This is a first year coach and if not for Mike Vrabel, Ben Johnson would be my choice for coach of the year. Because it's amazing to. They keep winning and they keep winning. Close they are to this year what the Washington football team was to last year and their season pivoted last year and this year on playing against Washington. It's amazing, isn't it?

C (20:40)

It is.

D (20:40)

I mean, the fact that, you know, last year the Hail Mary led to The Bears losing nine out of 10, I think.

A (20:47)

Yeah.

D (20:48)

Maybe 10 out of 11. We won one game the rest of the year. And this year have the commanders won a game?

A (20:56)

Not since.

D (20:57)

Lost the Bears. No, not since they've lost like six straight.

A (21:00)

Yeah.

D (21:01)

And the Bears win these games not just close, but preposterously late and close. Block field goal in Las Vegas two or three Field goals on the. The last play of the game. The commanders was one of them. And so they're winning these games. You don't know how to. Tony. They're last in every metric that matters. Defensively, Caleb Williams, while again, three touchdown passes yesterday, I think he has the lowest completion percentage of any starting quarterback.

A (21:34)

Really?

D (21:35)

Yeah, I think so.

A (21:36)

Wow.

D (21:37)

But he's got. But he's only thrown like two picks all year. So he has really. I mean, he took it upon himself and he's being coached better. This is not Eber Flutes, as you mentioned. And so he just said he's not going to turn it over. And he's not been sacked nearly as many times. The offensive line is better. So they're winning games in a preposterous way. They've been outscored in, in the second, third and fourth quarters on the season. They've only outscored their opponents in the first quarter. That's it.

A (22:09)

That's so weird.

D (22:11)

None of it adds up. And they're plus minus. I think it was. It was plus six going into.

A (22:17)

No, it was minus six going into yesterday.

D (22:19)

I'm sorry, minus six.

A (22:20)

So it's still minus three.

D (22:21)

It's still minus minus three.

A (22:23)

And they're like what, nine and three or something like that. And they got lucky yesterday. There was a great scramble by Mason Rudolph late in the game and it was called back on a nonsense, you know, but you.

D (22:35)

Every week, every week, every week that that happens. And this week they're playing and I think was probably the NFL's first Black Friday game against the Eagles in Philly.

A (22:52)

Maybe they'll win. I don't think they'll win, but I don't know.

D (22:55)

I don't. It's hard to make the case.

A (22:57)

But you, you've been in that position five times this year and you've won like eight. Yeah, it's just so yesterday, Yesterday the late game was nothing. I mean, Mayfield got hurt and the Rams were much better. So we don't have to concentrate on the late game. But there were a bunch of games yesterday. The standout thing to me. Well, I don't know. I was going to say that the fact that Detroit and Kansas City may have saved their seasons, but maybe it is Dallas beating. Coming back and beating Philadelphia, they save theirs.

D (23:29)

You know, I think you can speak to. Detroit would still be, you know, and Detroit would have been. Would have fallen two games behind the Bears in the division. But they have a game against the Bears coming up and the Bears have the hardest skill remaining in the NFL. So it's hard to expect anything there in Detroit has some wiggle room. Like. Like Baltimore had wiggle room. The Chiefs had none and the Cowboys had none.

A (23:55)

None, none.

D (23:56)

No wiggle room.

A (23:57)

And they play this week and the losers. Done. The losers done.

D (24:00)

It looks like it. It does look like it's a. It's a. It's a tournament game. But Tony, I will say this once again. In the case of the Cowboys, if Philly was to lose, the Bears are central to this. Again, if the Eagles were to lose, but to the Bears, the Cowboys still sort of. They still hang around. They still stay in. Was more difficult with the, with the, you know, dwindling season.

A (24:28)

Yeah, they got to win out, I don't think. And that's too much to win out.

D (24:32)

They don't have to run the table because the other teams are going to lose. Everybody. There's no great team. Everyone's going to lose. So we talk about Kansas City. They needed to win yesterday. Without question. Do we think that the Broncos aren't going to lose a game? They got to play it like Lambeau. In two weeks, they've got Kansas City again. So no, no, nobody's out of it yet.

A (24:59)

I will tell you that the NFL this year, right now. And look, right now doesn't mean by the end of the year because there's six games left. So it's just right now, six or seven games left. Right now. It's upside down. Right now the two leading teams in the NFC are the Rams and the Seahawks. And right now the two leading teams in the AFC are Denver and New England. And none of us, Mike, neither of us, and none of anybody listening would have had that. Wouldn't have had it.

D (25:26)

Well, there were people who picked Denver.

A (25:29)

Really?

D (25:29)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, Shetty was one of them. There were people who. There was a groundswell for Denver in the preseason when the folks who were predicting doom and gloom for Kansas City had to look elsewhere for a team. And probably half of them picked Jim Harbaugh and the Chargers and the other half picked Denver. I heard more people picking Denver. No Seattle. I didn't hear anybody with Seattle. Nobody had the Bears, nobody the two seat right now.

A (25:58)

Nobody had New England, nobody.

D (26:00)

Zero did have the Rams, some based on last year's performance where they outplayed in the snow, the Eagles and did not win that game.

A (26:09)

But there would have been the Rams and. Or the 49ers. So there was no groundswell. No, there's no groundswell. The groundswell would have been For Philadelphia or Detroit, it would have been.

D (26:21)

But I think that's just because there's no great team.

A (26:24)

Yeah.

D (26:25)

People, people are going to make the case that the Rams are a great team. No, they dismantled Tampa last night and maybe they will emerge to be that team. They're going to get a buy, it looks like, by the time we start the playoffs. But I got to see it because every time we proclaim somebody is great, they're not.

A (26:46)

Here's what the NFL has had this year. They've had fabulous Sundays. Yesterday, if you go start going backwards from the Dallas game, then you have the Chiefs game, the Lions game, the Bengals game, which was fabulous to watch at the end, the Steelers game, the Steelers game with the Bear. These were great.

D (27:07)

Yeah. Yeah. They're great finishes. And there's a, there are multiple kinds of parody because even the teams that don't seem to beat anybody, the Cardinals, every week, they're in some drama.

A (27:20)

Yes.

D (27:21)

They're in some dramatic game that you want to turn on. And so, you know, you look at tonight's game, which is not particularly interesting. You know Carolina at 49ers. Well, Carolina has a chance to lead the division.

A (27:35)

Yes. Yes.

D (27:37)

Tonight by winning that game.

A (27:38)

So I made a list yesterday, before the results were in, of coach of the year possibilities. I had Vrabel 12 at the time. I had striking from Indianapolis, but then they lost, so I bumped him down a little. Ben Johnson was third. I had Sean Payton fourth. I had d' Amico Ryan fifth. And I had the Carolina game guy whose name I don't even know. I had him six. Because they're, they're 500. They stink.

E (28:04)

Yeah.

D (28:04)

They have a chance to win their division. They have to control it.

A (28:08)

Yes.

D (28:08)

And so, yeah, I mean, all of those guys whose teams were not thought to be either ready or.

C (28:20)

You just.

D (28:21)

Looked at them and said, okay, their schedules, when you play that one loss game sometime in August, you don't, you don't have them. And so, you know, right now. Yeah. Rabel, is it today?

A (28:31)

Yeah.

D (28:33)

The Patriots were in some peril.

A (28:34)

Trouble. Trouble, absolutely.

D (28:37)

Yeah. And so we're going to have to let Tony all the foul. You and I discussed this yesterday, and I don't know that we have any real difference of opinion because I think it's Stafford. But the MVP of the, of the NFL is not anybody we thought after the first eight weeks.

A (28:54)

No, no, it's not. And I know you make, you make the case from Miles Garrett and he can win defensive player of the year, but you can't give the MVP to somebody on a losing team, I don't think.

D (29:03)

I guess not. I guess not. But I'm just looking at, I'm just looking at. Can you, can you make a case that Miles Garrett is the most impactful player.

A (29:14)

Yes.

C (29:14)

In the league.

A (29:15)

Yes.

D (29:16)

Just because, first of all, Tony, his team, which is no team, they're in games.

A (29:24)

Yeah.

D (29:24)

In these games late. And they have, they allow nothing because this guy is a menace.

A (29:30)

Yeah. No, he's really good. He's really good.

D (29:32)

He's a great, great player. And so the other day when we asked Booger, you remember, I said to Booker McFarland, is it, is it too far to use the name Reggie White in comparison?

A (29:43)

And he said, no. He said, you can use it.

D (29:44)

No. And that's, to me, the ultimate name. You don't go there. It's like going to Jerry Rice or it's like going to Montana. And so it's. Yeah, the league is weird in this way, but I find it much more enjoyable that way.

A (29:59)

It's been. This has been a great season. All right, I'll see you later. I'll see you later.

D (30:03)

Bye, Tom.

A (30:03)

Michael Wilbon, boys and girls, we will take a break. Dave Shining when we return. I'm Tony Kornheiser. There's a reason Chevy trucks are known for their dependability.

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B (31:39)

Send us your music by emailing it to jingles tonycornizershow.com and we still have TK Gold Star running@johnnyo.com reminder, we can't double up codes when we get into the holiday season, but go check it out right now and start loading up for the holidays.

A (31:52)

Yeah. God, beautiful stuff. Johnny owes beautiful stuff. My grandsons are the best dressed kids in America because of that.

B (31:59)

Thank you.

A (32:00)

Speaking of music, Dave Shinen joins us now and I will give some backstory here. A couple of weeks ago, there was a story released by the Washington Post about themes, sports themes. Shinen wrote this story and I didn't even look at it. I didn't even look at it at the time. And Michael said the other day we should have Shine in on and you should talk about this. And everybody knows who knows this show that Shine and was a music major at Vanderbilt University and you know, can sing and sung the anthem in a bunch of places. Okay, I get the Post online as well as physically delivered. And I'm going. And I'm not a big online guy.

B (32:40)

Got to go to the comments.

A (32:41)

You need, you need to go online in the Washington Post and read this story. Because in this story, not only does Shynan talk about the great instrumental themes that are the soundtrack of your sports life, but he sits at a piano and plays and he talks about the notes and he talks about the chords, he talks about the structure and it's look, this story is great. I love this story. My first question is, how long did it take you to do all this? Cuz you talked to everybody who was alive who had anything to do with each of these themes that you single out, which we will get to go ahead.

C (33:25)

Yeah, I mean, it took. I probably spent about a month on it, I guess, because they came to me at first with a, with an idea for just writing about the John Tesh piece Round Ball Rock because the NBA returning to NBC meant they were bringing back that piece, which is very, you know, nostalgic. And everybody who watched basketball in the 1990s remembers that. And so, you know, I was kind of lukewarm on the idea. But then, you know, I thought, well, why don't we blow this out and make it into a big project with just celebrating the best sports themes of all time, of which Round Ball Rock is clearly one and they were into the idea. So, you know, I started calling around to all these composers. I got John Tesh on Zoom. He was lovely, a great interview, great person. And I talked to all the others, you know, and. But then, you know, I was still not satisfied with where this piece was. And I. I was messing around with the piano in my. In my office I have a. I have a 6 foot Yamaha grand piano in my living room. And then in my office I have a weighted key, 88 weighted key electric piano. So I was messing around on that with some of these pieces just to see, you know, if there was any commonalities or if there was anything I could glean from playing them all. And I started thinking, man, you know, I could really. I mean, I can only do so much explaining how great these pieces are with written words, but if I could get on a piano and like, show why these pieces are so great, that would be really amazing. And that kind of doubled the length of time it was gonna take because we have to involve video. We have to set up a place, we have to, you know, I have to learn the pieces well enough to be able to sit there and do it. Because I'm not really a piano player. Like, I mean, I mess around.

A (35:12)

You called yourself a hack piano player during this piece.

C (35:16)

I mean, I am. And anybody who's an actual piano player is gonna look at me and be like, ugh, this guy's a hat. But to you, I'm brilliant.

A (35:25)

Yes. Yes. You're Gershwin to me. Yes.

C (35:28)

Yeah, yeah. To sports writers, I'm really, really great. But like, I would not want a piano teacher watching me because my technique is.

A (35:38)

It's so interesting. People say to me all the time, you're funny. And I go, I'm funny for a sports writer? I'm not funny. Like, that's what you're saying. I'm a good piano player for a sports writer. There's you and Mitch, right? That's you and Mitch.

C (35:53)

That's exactly it. That's exactly it.

A (35:55)

It's so. The piece is so great with your involvement in it. Did you find that? I have no idea who composed. I know John Tesh, but all these other things that you talked about, you know, the Olympic theme and the Monday Night Football theme. I have no idea who wrote these things. How'd you find them? I bet they were so happy to talk to you.

C (36:16)

Oh, man, they were. You got that right. I mean, the ones who are still alive anyway. There's a couple who have passed. John Williams, who wrote the Olympic Thing or part of the Olympic theme is. Is. Was not. I was not able to get him on the phone. I think he's, you know, around 90 years old. But everybody else was so happy to talk about these pieces and especially when I could show that I have the chops to understand the theory behind them and, and what makes them great from a musical standpoint. So, you know, we kind of talk shop a little bit and it was, it was a lot of fun.

A (36:50)

So you left out, for example, we'll get to what you put in. But one, two of the things you left out to me that were noticeable was the Sunday night NBC theme and The Hank Williams Jr. Monday Night Football thing both have lyrics. You. Did you make a decision early? No. Nothing with lyrics.

C (37:09)

Well, it wasn't so much that. Nothing with lyrics, but, but, but, but like, like take that. That, that Monday Night Football theme with Hank Williams Jr. Like, that is. That was a, an established song that was a hit for, for Hank Williams Jr. That they adapted for, you know, Monday Night Football and they changed the lyrics and all this stuff. So I mean, that, that to me is not so much a theme as it is a, a repurposing of a pop song to, you know, like the Monday Night Football theme is always going to be that heavy action that dun dun dun dun. You know, that's always going to be. And they still use that. Right. Even though they've changed the other theme multiple times, they still go back to that piece. Heavy action. So that to me is the Monday Night Football theme.

A (37:57)

So I mean, there's a bunch of them in here. For me, I think of Olympics and Monday Night Football first. But you even. You have Sports Center. You have. Yes, the basketball that NBC uses now that, the John Tesh piece. What are the pieces you have in there? And do you. Is there common ground? The only common ground I could think of right away is they are bombastic pieces most of the time.

C (38:21)

Yes. Yeah, that's exactly right. And of course that's by design. Of course, you know, it varies by sport. That was the biggest revelation for me was that, you know, all of the football themes almost to, to a, to a single one are minor key and very aggressive. Almost violent.

A (38:42)

Yeah.

C (38:42)

And foreboding and dark. So you go to these big minor theme, bombastic things. Baseball, the one that we use for this week in baseball was, is very pastoral and beautiful and you know, so it's very different. The basketball ones are fast paced. In addition to Round Ball Rock, I use the CBS college basketball March Madness theme and it's the same thing. It's very fast, upbeat. It feels like a fast break, you know, so I love that about, you know, because, you know, great sports writers. I think Dave Kindred said this one time or wrote this in one of his books, that he writes differently for different sports, that when he's covering a football game he writes with a different language. It's more, you know, violent than, than, and direct than, than a baseball column which might be more flowing and pastoral. And, and I get that. And, and, and it's the same thing with this music.

A (39:37)

It must have been so much fun for you to sit down and play these things. It must have been so much fun.

C (39:44)

And I mean, that's kind of like how I, it's how I operate with music. Like, I mean, if I, if I fall in love with a song, I'm not done with it until I can get on either on a guitar, which I also play, or piano and just and it for a while and, and, and understand why, what makes it so great? So that's what I do. And like this was, this was just an outgrowth of that. I mean I, I learned so much by getting at the piano and playing through these things and seeing what makes them so great. And yeah, it was the most fun I've ever had on a big project.

A (40:20)

These are, I assume these are all commissioned pieces. The music is commissioned pieces. Somebody says write a theme. Do these guys get residuals every time it's played or are they just, is it just a one shot? They get residuals.

C (40:34)

Oh yeah. And in fact, money, you know, if you, if you really listen to a broadcast of a game like a NFL football, like let's say the Fox NFL theme. Da da da da da da. Yeah, so that is played like a hundred times in a game. They use it going out to a commercial or coming back from a commercial. And so that guy gets paid every time for those. John Test told me that his theme put, put one of his kids through college. But let me, let me correct one thing though. They weren't all commissioned. Two of them, okay, the Monday Night Football theme and this Week in Baseball were just sitting in a music library, which is, you know, they hire these composers to just crank out tunes and over and over and over they do this. That's their entire lives, five days a week. And these library pieces sit in a music library for anybody to come along and license them. And that's how the Monday Night Football theme and this Week in Baseball came to life. They were found by producers out of a music Library, and they became the themes of those shows.

A (41:40)

What about the guy who wrote the Sports center theme? What about that guy? Is he getting paid every day?

C (41:45)

Yeah, yeah, he gets paid every day. And in fact, that guy, John Colby, he was on staff at ESPN as their musical director, and he wrote all the themes to all of the things that they used to show in the 80s and 90s. You know, all of the obscure sports they used to show in the early days, he would write the themes for all of those things. So the Sports center was just part of that. But, yeah, he's doing very well for himself.

A (42:12)

Yeah. I mean, I get residuals from Greg Garcia for $0.01 or $0.02 for being in one of his dopey television shows that I enjoyed so much doing it. The Millers. And I literally get checks for 2 cents. But if you. But if the Sports center guy, he's making a lot more money than that. That's what. Oh, you met Tesh? What is Tesh? Strikes me as a Renaissance man. What's Tesh like?

C (42:36)

He's just so lovely, man. I mean, you know, he kind of has this. This reputation, not completely undeserving, as just schlocky and kind of like. Like, his music is not my taste, but, like, he's brilliant. I mean, and what really stood out to me from that interview is the way that he described his influences, which splits the difference between prog rock of the 70s, like, yes and Emerson, Lake and Palmer, and then classical, like, late Romantic, you know, early 20th century classical composers like Shostakovich and Stravinsky. So, like. And you could totally hear that in the music. It's orchestral, but it's also, like, bombastic rock music underpinnings. And it totally made sense to me.

A (43:26)

I don't know the work of Shostakovich, but I can mention Doncic and the big guy, Jokic. I can talk about that. Look, I think I love the piece. I love it with the adornment of. Of the music that you create, you know, in the. Online, you see these things. You're a music major, you see these things. So. Such a different eye than the rest of us, don't you think?

D (43:51)

I mean, maybe.

C (43:52)

Yeah. I mean, I kind of feel like it was the piece I was, like, born to write and to annotate, you know, on video. Like, I was born to do that. Like, that it brings together all of my, you know, skills and abilities. And, you know, I'm almost sad because, like, nothing I ever write again is gonna be that much fun.

A (44:16)

It's just. It's just a great piece and I don't know how many people can just get online at the Washington Post if you can and go through this piece. It's the writing is great, but your part in it, it's not just your part because they also have the themes played out as well, you know, so that everybody can recognize what we're talking about. It's really good. It's really good. Thanks for being on than for doing the piece.

C (44:39)

Hey, thanks for all the kind words, Tony. Good to talk to you.

A (44:42)

Dave Shinen, Boys and girls. We will take a break. We will come back with email and jingle. I'm Tony Kornheiser. Black Friday Savings are here at the Home Depot which means it's time to add new cordless power to your collection. Right now, when you buy a select battery kit from one of our top brands like Ryobi or Milwaukee, you'll get a select tool from that same brand for free. Click into one of our best deals of the season and stock up on tools for all your upcoming projects. Get Black Friday Savings happening now at the Home Depot. Limit 1 per transaction exclusions apply. Full eligible tool list in store and online. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. Is this a synthesizer?

E (45:35)

I believe so. Yes.

F (45:36)

Yeah.

E (45:36)

Feels like Super Mario that's out of the arcade.

A (45:42)

Wow. Josh Himmelsbach. Yeah. Wow.

E (45:45)

Isn't that great?

A (45:45)

So, wow. Yeah. Want to do the Bethesda bagel ad for us?

E (45:48)

Oh, yes. We got bagel sandwiches today. Always excited about that. Just go to Bethesda Bagels.com for the location in the DC area nearest you. Then pop on in and you'll be thrilled. And yes, as we said last week, they'll be open on Thanksgiving.

A (45:58)

Of course they will. You know, but before, because sports writers need some place to go before they go to work. Before we get to the mailbag, let me just say, in a day we sweat it out on the streets of a runaway American dream. At night we ride through mansions of glory and suicide machines sprung from cages on Highway 9. Chrome wheel fuel injected and stepping out over the line. Baby, this town rips the bones from your back. It's a death trap, a suicide rap? We gotta get out while we're young. Cause tramps like us, baby, we were titled Born to Run. That's Bruce Springsteen.

E (46:26)

He's okay.

A (46:27)

Yeah, he did pretty well. Thanks to our guests today. Michael Wilbond, Dave Shinen, thanks as well to today's sponsors. Remember, you can listen to us on Apple podcasts, Spotify and Odyssey. Get the show through Apple. Please leave us a review from Lee Stevens in Messina, New York, which is upstate New York. Does anyone know if Jeff Ma actually made it to the airport? Yeah. Is he still out there somewhere in the Southwest, driven around by a car that changes lanes for no reason at all, his face pressed against the passenger side window, a silent scream on his lips? What's that signpost up ahead? Next stop, the Twilight Zone. No exit from Nick Sharkey in Escanaba. I hope I pronounced that right. Michigan Friday show started with Tony being introduced to microwave bacon and ended with him being introduced to driverless cars. Don't let him ever tell you that you don't have range, old man. From Elizabeth Oliver, longtime listener and watcher, first time emailer Mr. Tony, please don't waste your money on that so called microwave bacon. Oh, this going the other way because Bill Isaacson says he likes it. Take any number of slices of bacon, any thickness, and lay them on a cold cookie sheet pan, parchment paper optional, although it does make the cleanup a little easier. Place the pan in a cold oven. Cold oven? Turn it on to 425. When the oven reaches 425, my oven beeps when it reaches 425. Watch your bacon closely. In my experience, it will be done to whatever level you desire in anywhere from 3 to 5 minutes. Perfect crispy bacon every time. P.S. i live in North Louisiana, but I spent a long time in Carville, Louisiana, named for James Carville's family. Yes, that James Carville. Like James, it is one of the most fascinating places in the world. Read the Miracle at Carville. It details finding the cure for Hansen's disease, or as the Bible calls it, leprosy. Wow, this is going in the special part.

B (48:06)

This is exactly what I told you, but this it all is. What kind of time do you have if you have to make a quick sandwich? Microwave bacon's fine.

A (48:14)

From Tim Bonimo, Waterbury, Vermont up here in Vermont, we have the stuff in the supermarket usually found near the hot dogs that you can put on a plate between a couple of layers of paper towels and microwave it to your desired crisp. We call it bacon Just bacon. No need to buy special microwavable bacon. You can even buy special trays on which to nuke your swine hind if you're too bougie to rough it with paper towels and a plate. Use the money you saved for this year's propane. Great angry one. Steve Tabor, Fort Smith, Arkansas I am, if I say so myself, a bit of an expert on the subject of all things Bacon. In my opinion, Francis Bacon's one of the most influences, influential philosophers and statesman in history. Henry Bacon's work as the architect the Lincoln Memorial has blessed generations of Americans more recently. No one would argue against Kevin Bacon being a national treasure. You won't believe where I am. The collective benefits of those men, however, pale in comparison to the miracle that is microwavable Bacon. Thank you for calling some much deserved attention to this wonderful meat. Josh Ridgeway, Richmond, Virginia maybe you'll go to the embassy. Respectfully, Mr. Tony, there's a higher chance of you attending my wedding. That happened over a year ago. There's a higher chance of chatter being a great investment. There's even a higher chance of Wilbond talking for five minutes without mentioning a famous group chat. I am rooting for you though. He doesn't think I'm going. Steven Sickafan, I was shocked to hear you might not accept the British Embassy's invitation to a brunch. What would I do? You asked. You go and chow down to beat the band. That's what you do. Suggestion. Bring Nigel as a wingman. And while you keep everyone's attention pontificating on England's World cup prospects, he can grab food for consumption back at your place. Plus some embassy china and silverware. It's a win, win. Go for it.

E (49:54)

What am I, Ratto Rizzo stuffing food in my pockets?

A (49:56)

Hey, my mark in here. Carl and us, we go New York. US Upstate New York. I just finished watching the Bills Hallmark movie with a woman to whom I'm related by marriage, Luke Russer. Chuck and Roxy number 392 was great. There was no gazebo on the football field, but there was a kiss under the goalpost. Overall, it was pretty good. Also, reminder introduced Chuck Todd properly this week with his and Chuck and roxy number of 400. He did chuck and Roxy.

E (50:19)

I guess he did.

A (50:19)

Did you see that?

B (50:20)

You see? Stayed up for it.

A (50:21)

How'd Luke do?

B (50:22)

He did great. He had more. More lines than we thought he did. He brought us back to the third quarter. Very good game.

E (50:28)

Bills do better than they did against the Texans.

A (50:29)

They always Mike Turner, Knoxville, Tennessee who says I'm a loyal little Since Michael was in middle school. Metal middle school and 12 the hard way. That's funny. Based on Michael's description of his childhood and general disengagement from it, I suspect you may be unfamiliar with the concept of Flat Stanley. Flat Stanley is a common school activity for young children. Inspired by 1964 book Students Create a Flat Stanley and either take him along on their travels or mail him to friends, family or classrooms in other locations. It helps children learn geography, practice reading and writing, and engage with other cultures. Three years ago, I set out to visit every country and territory in the world. There is some debate about the correct total, but I settled on 248. You have traveled with me these last three years via the podcast and via Flat Tony. I have somehow managed to survive these journeys despite not speaking to a single pilot before boarding a plane, without a lucky flying shirt and without any amulets or talismans, as shown below. I have now flown 616 flights, 700, 838 miles and 1827 hours in pursuit of this mission. A couple of weeks ago, I reached country number 224. Afghanistan. My son, Scott Turner. Not that Scott Turner, but the one who sent you the DVDs from the St. Louis Arch, had instructed me to save a few countries until I was terminally ill. But I decided I couldn't wait that long. Please see the attached photo of me in Afghanistan with some new friends on my flat. Tony A Koozie I picked up at Jingle Fest 2. I plan to finish 23 of the 24 remaining countries in 2026, if you'd like to join me. This is amazing.

E (52:01)

Isn't that incredible?

A (52:02)

These pictures are amazing to me. Eric Robertson in Dartmouth, in Nova Scotia, in Canada. I thought I could help back up your claim that the Washington Wizards are a horrendous team, as you put it. The current head coach carries a 27 and 108 record since being promoted from assistant coach to interim head coach halfway through the 2023, 24 season. That's good for a.200 win percentage. What's his name? Keith? Something like that? Yeah. He's gone. As soon as they get good, if they get good, he's gone. He'll be gone before that.

B (52:30)

Brian Keefe.

A (52:30)

Brian Keefe. Yeah. Then they lost both games this weekend at Toronto and Chicago to drop their coach to a.197 percentage and a cool 1 in 15 on the season. This season, they're 24th in scoring, 30th in points against. On average, they're outscored by 16.2 points a game. If this stands, will be the worst negative point differential ever in an NBA season. The 202425 Wizards are third all time on that list at minus 12.44 points per game. Don't worry though. I'm sure the lottery balls will bounce your way this year, right no, they don't deserve it because they're trying to lose. They're not trying to win. This is designed from the top down from this guy, Michael Winger, who should not have this job. He's trying to lose to get high enough in the lottery to get great players. What if there aren't great players this year? Or what if he picks the wrong one? You know, how long do you stay with this? How long do you keep a team out there that is not trying to win? Amy Smolens, Albany, California. The tiny Albany next to Berkeley. My husband and I are longtime viewers of pti. We watch Michael give occasional love to his Northwestern Wildcats. But unfortunately you don't usually have the same opportunity with your Binghamton Bearcats. However, last night you women won an amazing double overtime game versus Zachary with Bella Pucci pouring in 29, including the amazing buzzer beater to send it into OT. Please give them some well deserved props. We did, we did. And I got a note from the athletic director thanking me. It's wonderful. That's great. It was wonderful. There's a dinner for the incoming president in a couple of weeks. It's, it's in Washington. I probably, I don't want to go because it starts at 7:30. That's late for me. That means I'm not going to get home till about 10.

B (54:08)

I'll take Nigel with you. He'll collect some food for you to eat on the way home.

A (54:11)

Yeah, and some silverware plates. I should go and meet her.

E (54:15)

Maybe just go attend before the dinner.

B (54:18)

And just say hello, take some photos.

A (54:21)

I'm Tony. I'd like to say hi. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Ed Butt So the line was Ohio State -32 and a half. Ohio State won by 33. Jeff Mobb picked Ohio State winning by 1/2 point. They know what they're doing. Matt Weissman, Berkeley Heights, NJ Chuck and Roxy347 the folks in Nigel's homeland are obviously fans of of the pod. The Economist magazine recently wrote an article about how your beloved Beaujolais is quote, having a hipster ish resurgence.

B (54:48)

Yeah.

A (54:48)

Thanks to its relatively low alcohol contact and a nostalgic, probably possibly ironic appreciation of this occasion. The vibrant, juicy wines are better than ever. Mr. Tony is obviously a hipster ish trend center. I didn't know it had less alcohol. That's why I don't get ill when I drink it. I mean I'm fine and it's pleasant. Yeah, I didn't realize that. Andy Shaner, Sun Prairie, Wisconsin. Some years back, I got the chance to attend an event where a company was sponsoring an appearance by the late great Jungle Jack Hannah. One of the animals he brought out for a live demonstration was a binturong, AKA Bearcat. I can confirm from personal experience that they do in fact smell like buttered popcorn. Is the job isn't taken. Could I be the official Bearcat smeller of the Tony Kornheiser show? Absolutely. That's not taken. P.S. i ran into a friend of the podcast Mike Kinsella in Austin, Texas last week. He was playing a reunion show with the seminal band Captain Jazz and I was able to give him a quick cheese rib before he went on stage. Great show.

E (55:45)

That's great.

A (55:46)

And from Tim Fitzgerald in Seattle, Washington, formerly of the 20017 Mr. Tony, just wanted you to know that I ordered a BLT with avocado for lunch yesterday and all I could think of it while I ate was you would hate this. That's it. That's the email. If you're out on your bike Tiny, everyone is always always do wear white.

D (56:04)

Hey dad.

F (56:05)

Dad? Honey?

A (56:06)

Tony? Tony, Listen up. Didn't make it.

F (56:25)

Saying a prayer make all the bad stuff punching the air then biting my hand off. Quality check about what you'd expect it's not the best but what with the contest Can I get another Long Island? I really have some such miserable time and I felt minded follow you home without. Driving myself to an aneurysm Rather do that than make a decision I don't want to make it what is or what isn't Can I get another Long Island? I really have such miserable time and I found to leave you alone. What if this was in the past? What it's not supposed to be flat if I throw in a circle will I ever get it back? I've been sleeping but I'm still tired you've been running around my mind all night Walking on a thin line but it's fine Just because I want it doesn't make it mine I've got the feeling you look the other way I can't say it cause my tongue's too tight Blink twice if you know what I'm saying I'm not really trying to make it hard don't act to come when I'm getting in the car doesn't matter if you make it far Blink twice if you know what I'm saying. What if nothing ever was what it supposed to be Because I was in the wrong place at the right time? What if this was in the past? What a time supposed to be for? Will I ever get it back? Just because I want it doesn't make it mine. I've got the feeling you look the other way. I can't say it cuz my tongue's too tight. Bling twice if you know what I'm saying. I'm not really trying to make it hard. Don't have to come but I'm getting in the car to. Because all this doesn't make it mine. I've got the feeling you look the other way. I can't say it cuz my tongue's too tight. Bling twice if you know what I'm saying. We really try to make it hard. You don't have to come when I'm getting in the car. Doesn't matter if you make it far. Blink twice if you what I'm saying Sa.