“Me and my dog - me!”

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Tony Kornheiser Show – “Me and my dog - me!”

Release Date: June 24, 2025
Host: Tony Kornheiser
Guests: Pam Ward, Dan Stillman (Capital Weather Gang)
Episode Title: “Me and my dog - me!”

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Introduction

In this engaging episode of The Tony Kornheiser Show, host Tony Kornheiser delves into two main topics: the stellar performance of WNBA star Caitlin Clark and the severe heat wave affecting the eastern United States. Joined by sports analyst Pam Ward and weather expert Dan Stillman from the Capital Weather Gang, Tony navigates through insightful discussions, personal anecdotes, and listener interactions.

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1. WNBA Spotlight: Caitlin Clark's Stellar Performance

Guests: Pam Ward

Tony Kornheiser kicks off the episode by celebrating the birthday of his eight-year-old son, Bootsy, segueing into a conversation about Caitlin Clark's impressive second year in the WNBA.

• Caitlin Clark’s Impact: Pam Ward highlights Clark's outstanding performance, noting her maturation and significant contributions to her team. She states, "James Wood is one of the 10 best players in baseball right now over the last week and a half" ([03:41]).

• Physicality in Women's Basketball: The discussion shifts to the increasing physicality in women's basketball. Tony remarks, "Caitlin Clark still is getting a lot of attention physically" ([26:22]), while Pam emphasizes the need for better officiating to maintain the game's integrity.

• Television Ratings and Attendance: Michael, another guest, underscores the surge in both TV ratings and live attendance for women's basketball, citing, "Attendance is way up... Every single one of them has been a sellout" ([29:23]).

• Growth of Women's Sports: The conversation extends to the broader landscape of women's sports, with Michael drawing parallels to the MLS's growth following Lionel Messi's arrival, illustrating the potential for women's leagues to follow suit.

Notable Quotes:

• Tony Kornheiser: "Caitlin Clark's television ratings notwithstanding, the in-person arena attendance is way up around the league, isn't it?" ([28:30])
• Pam Ward: "The officials totally lost track of that game... And then we saw what happened with Sophie Cunningham." ([25:02])

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2. Extreme Heat Wave: Impacts and Insights

Guests: Dan Stillman (Capital Weather Gang)

Transitioning from sports, Tony engages with Dan Stillman to dissect the current intense heat wave affecting the eastern United States.

• Current Conditions: Dan explains, "We're going to be up near 100 today. We're going to be up near, probably upper 90s to near 100 tomorrow" ([35:07]).

• Causes and Climate Change: They discuss the phenomenon of high-pressure heat domes and their possible links to climate change. Dan notes, "The jet stream kind of getting stuck... That's a known influence of climate change" ([40:20]).

• Impact on Daily Life: Tony shares personal experiences of navigating through a traffic standstill caused by a truck accident, highlighting the broader societal impacts of extreme weather. He reflects, "It took just under two hours, two hours ago, four miles" ([11:01]).

• Health Concerns: The conversation touches on the dangers of prolonged high temperatures, especially for vulnerable populations, as nighttime temperatures remain uncomfortably high.

Notable Quotes:

• Dan Stillman: "It's really hot. But it's not going to end today, it's not going to end tomorrow." ([35:07])
• Tony Kornheiser: "This is extraordinarily hot... What causes this? Or is it just in the normal course of events yet gets this hot?" ([37:26])

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3. Listener Interactions and Emails

Throughout the episode, Tony engages with listener submissions, showcasing a blend of humor, personal stories, and creative content.

• Philip Martin’s Musical Tributes: Philip shares two original songs, “Cassius Clay” and “Savannah Says,” reflecting on personal memories and the influence of music. Tony appreciates Philip’s contributions, stating, “Neither song contains any swearing... Unlike most of my material” ([18:15]).

• Golf Anecdotes: Listeners like Steve Rogers and Joe Gill recount their golfing experiences with Tony and Michael, adding a personal touch to the show’s dynamic.

• Creative Submissions: From haikus about daytime heat to humorous takes on potato planting, the listener interactions add a lighthearted element to the episode. For instance, Ian sends a haiku:
  “My 12 year old kid has attract me Tuesday night. Won't you take my place? No, no, but that's funny if you're out on your bike.” ([57:57])

Notable Quotes:

• Tony Kornheiser: “It's so good to talk with you. This makes me very happy.” ([33:07])
• Listener Philip Martin: “I remember Friday nights when he turned on the TV I don't know who killed Davey Moore I should hope that it wasn't me.” ([61:50])

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Conclusion

Tony Kornheiser masterfully balances serious discussions about sports and weather with personal anecdotes and listener engagements. The episode underscores the growing prominence of women's sports, exemplified by Caitlin Clark's impact, while also addressing pressing environmental issues like extreme heat waves. Through candid conversations and interactive segments, Tony continues to provide a relatable and informative experience for his audience.

Notable Closing Quote:

• Tony Kornheiser: “So we will come back with email and jingle. ... Thanks for all the years of smart conversations and laughs that meant a lot.” ([53:16])

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Listener Takeaways:

• Caitlin Clark is a standout performer in the WNBA, contributing significantly to her team's success and boosting the league's popularity.
• The ongoing heat wave poses serious challenges, from health risks to disrupted daily activities, highlighting the need for effective climate strategies.
• Engaging with the community through listener emails fosters a sense of connection and adds diverse perspectives to the show.

Recommended For:
Fans of sports analysis, particularly basketball enthusiasts, individuals interested in climate and weather impacts, and listeners who enjoy a mix of humor and personal storytelling.

Transcript

[Tony Kornheiser]

Hey, it's Tony. On today's show, we'll chat with our good friend Pam Ward. I love Pam Ward. About how year two in the WNBA is going for Caitlin Clark, among other things. And we'll talk about this ungodly heat wave with Dan Stillman of the Capital Weather gang, which I read religiously. But first, how about little commerce? You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. Gone are the days of struggling to cram everything for your next road trip into your vehicle. Introducing the all electric Hyundai Ioniq 9. It's not just an EV, it's Hyundai's first three row EV. That's right. Room for the whole crew and all their gear. With class leading interior space and smart purposeful tech in every row. The Ioniq 9 rear wheel drive S trim gets an EPA estimated 335 miles on a full charge. And when you're on the go, it can get up to 150 miles of range in just 15 minutes. Using a 350 kilowatt DC ultra fast charger and CCS adapter. With features like highway driving assist too and blind spot collision avoidance assist, you'll feel safer than ever. And it's all backed by Hyundai's 10 year 100,000 mile hybrid electric limited battery warranty. So whether you're hauling kids camping gear or just cruising into the weekend, this isn't just a new ev. It's a new way to drive electricity. Learn more about the Ioniq 9@Hyundai USA.com call 562-314-4603 for complete details.

[Michael]

Previously on the Tony Kornhauser Show.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And when he's 16, he's going to hit a 280 to 300 in the air. Yeah, I mean, no question. He plays 36 holes a day. I learned so much about Lucas and he's in the cart. And so I'm talking with him and talking with him and I call Michael and I say I talked more to this 12 year old in four hours than I talked to you the entire year you were 12, right, Michael?

[Pam Ward]

I can confirm this.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Michael]

This is General George Washington and you're.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. Apropos of that, I should say that it is the eighth birthday today of the baby boy, Bootsy. He is eight today and so happy birthday. I probably should talk to him, but I'm not good at talking to kids. I'm not. So I'll just call him and then I'll just say, just put your dad on and I'll Talk to you?

[Pam Ward]

No, talk to him about baseball. He's at that age.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, I can talk about baseball.

[Pam Ward]

So last night he has the. The birthday. You know, he's so excited about his birthday, he can't go to sleep. So after singing hallelujah to him for about 25 minutes, he pops up and he goes, dad, who's the second best pitcher on the Nats behind Mackenzie Gore? And so I have to go to like. Are you talking about wins, losses? Are we talking about, you know, you know, different strikeout numbers?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Might be Jake Irvin right now. Might be Jake Irvin right now.

[Pam Ward]

He's not been getting a lot of run support, but then he, you know.

[Tony Kornheiser]

None of them are.

[Dan Stillman]

But they won.

[Tony Kornheiser]

They won last night. Ten. It was a ten. Six, Michael. Ten. Six. It was ten.

[Pam Ward]

Six. They gave up three in the ninth. But that's the.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Didn't matter.

[Pam Ward]

That's not the important thing. The important thing is you go back to three summers ago and what were then prospects that you got in the Juan Sota trade as the Padres were trying to push to a World Series, and you look at the immediate impact of James Wood hitting a single to score C.J. abrams. I think it was in the first or the second, James Wood hitting a home run. You have, obviously Mackenzie Gore, who's putting up a lot of strikeouts. So you're looking at the maturation of those players that is directly from that trade.

[Tony Kornheiser]

James Wood is one of the 10 best players in baseball right now over the last week and a half. Would you say that? Is that fair to say? He's been banging it. He's all they got in terms of banging it. Well, he and Nathaniel Low, who. I told you Nathaniel's had a very.

[Pam Ward]

Good week, was particularly in L. A.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Nathaniel Lowe is the best player they brought on to that team. Not. Not homegrown. Not to, you know, the best signing they've made in the last five years is Nathaniel Low. He solves every problem at first, every problem of no production and not good fielding. He's a great fielder and he has a very high percentage of driving people in when they're on base. Right, Michael? He's really good. Yeah.

[Pam Ward]

And exactly what you're saying, it's what they were lacking at first. But then of course, your favorite first baseman, DH last night goes deep with something over the head.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. I'm good, you know, but I would, I would make that change prior to the All Star break. Anyway, apropos of the opening clip on the 12 year old child, Lucas, I get from Jeff In Madison. We need to know more about the golf course. Conversation with the 12 year old kid. Was he surprised to learn that Lorne Green was from Canada? Was he impressed that you could name every single rascal? I bet he loved the driver's ed story. This is a fabulous and nasty email to me. I really, really like it and it allows me to now talk about what happened last night. It is extremely hot in the metropolitan areas in the south and east and northeast. So I went out to Delaware for a variety of reasons and stayed in Delaware and thought and it was over 90 here was 93 at one point here yesterday, 93 degrees, it was like.

[Dan Stillman]

104, something like that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's really hot. But I went out. You mean in terms of a number? No, just in terms of.

[Pam Ward]

There is. There's an ocean breeze. Did it feel playable?

[Tony Kornheiser]

There's a breeze live? Yes. Okay. Livable and playable. I went out last night, we finished the PTI show and I change clothes and I get in the car and I drive over to the golf course and I get there around, I don't know, five to six or something like that, right around 6 o' clock and I'm anticipating jumping into a cart and playing as many holes as I can before it gets dark. And in that case, which is about 8:30, I, I can play 18 by myself. Easily, easily by myself. What surprised me were how many people were out on the course.

[Pam Ward]

Do you have a teacher?

[Tony Kornheiser]

I mean, I know, you know, I guess people were just going out and so I did not go out by myself. I mean I could have started on 10, but they said you're going to run into people wherever you go, right? So I start on one and there's two people on the tee box at one and I say, do you mind if I play with you? And the guy says no, it's him and his grandson. His grandson is 10. His grandson is 10.

[Dan Stillman]

Getting a lot of practice.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's Michael, you will know this. I look forward to your return, junior. It's Lucapano Jr. And his grandson Lou the fourth, a 10 year old kid. He is killing it. He's killing it. He's playing from the reds. He's out hitting me, I don't know, by 30 yards on every drive. This is fantastic. I keep meeting these young kids who are really, really good players. Now he's not in my cart, he's with his grandfather, right?

[Pam Ward]

They got separate corners.

[Tony Kornheiser]

His grandfather regret playing him for money in the clubs? No, I don't, I don't think so. But he's calling the clubs that the kid should use, explaining what he should do because he's obviously was a, was a good player and is still a fine player. Still playing from the white and hitting it way past me and a very charming guy. And here's what happens. We are on the fourth hole, okay? I pard the second, I pard the third. I was very pleased. You. Pardon. Three. Yeah, we were on the. Well, it's 112 yard shot from the greens. So we're on the fourth hole and Lou mentions. Now I, I know who he is. I played with his brother at one point. We have Jimmy Powell in common, who was great friends with the family. But at one point he says to me, you know, he plays in this club in Florida and he talks about it a little bit and, and he says, it's Emerald Dunes. And I go, whoa, whoa, hold it. Emerald Dunes. The socialite belongs to Emerald Dunes. Maury belongs to Emerald Dunes. I've played Emerald Dunes a bunch. I say these things. Within five minutes the socialite calls me out of the blue and I say, I'm playing with Lou. I'll call you later. I'll play with Louisa. To Alan. For me, it's just this remarkable turn that. Do you know what I mean, Michael? It was extraordinary.

[Pam Ward]

The world becomes very small.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. The temperature last night at that time around between 6 and 7:30, which is when I played 9 and I left at 9 because you had the twilight rate. It was okay. It was an. I, I don't know what I got. I, I doubt it. I doubt that would be fun to ask. I'll check the bill when I get it. But I only played nine, so I don't want to be charged for a card for 18. But it was, there was a breeze, it was light in the sky, the sun was out, but it was not blinding at that point. And I would honestly say it was nearly delightful. Nearly, nearly delightful. But like three hours before it was baton. It was, come on. It was horrendous. But I had, I had that experience and so that was a really good experience for me. And I had no. And this leads to something else that Nigel can talk about. I had no traffic problems getting to the golf course or coming back from the golf course, which is south of south of the shopping center with the fresh market and the Wawa right and the cut off left hand turn onto Rehoboth Avenue. Why don't you explain what happened to you yesterday as you attempted to be here at 2:00 in the afternoon. To set up for PTR.

[Dan Stillman]

Yes. So I'm about four miles away down the coastal highway.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, you're up the coast, up the coastal highway.

[Dan Stillman]

Yes. And usually, I mean, like this morning took like six minutes to drive. So I leave at 10 of 2. You know, we haven't used this camera in a while. We want to make sure it's operating. There is backed up traffic really bad all the way to where I'm staying and it's just not moving. And I'm thinking, wow, this has got to be, you know, it's a hot day, everybody must be at the beach. But you would go through the lights like it would go through twice and no one move a millimeter.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So.

[Dan Stillman]

And every time I look at the map, it would be like, you're still, you know, you know, 45 minutes away or an hour away or whatever. And long story somewhat short, it took.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Me just under two hours, two hours ago, four miles. Because as we later find out, and I don't know what the website is for the local newspaper here, if there even is a local newspaper here. I think it's. I thought there was something called the Delaware State Journal, but I'm getting that wrong. I'm sure a Pepsi Cola truck.

[Dan Stillman]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Clipped a wire, overturned and knocked down a massive amount of wires, bringing traffic to an absolute standstill because you don't know if those wires are lie. You can't move.

[Dan Stillman]

Yeah, it was. Apparently it was turning into one of the side roads off the highway and it was, it caught one of the low hanging wires off the telephone pole, flipped over the truck and flipped over and pulled down the wire for I want to say, 8 to 10 blocks, just covering cars draped across streets. And so every road was blocked off. That's why, you know, you could move at all.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Route 1 in Delaware going south from Dover is the main north south route in the entire state. And it's not. It doesn't matter if they call it a highway, it's not a highway. It's not a freeway, a highway, a beltway. It's not something that exists just to be a road. No, there's commerce and homes on all sides, on both sides all the time. I mean, it's. It's not, it's not just a road.

[Dan Stillman]

Right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. It's. It's a neighborhood from, you know, from north to south and south to north. You pass everything. There's commerce on the sides. There's all sorts of turnoffs. There's gas stations, there's, you know, outlet stores, there's homes. So when this thing is done, when you can't move on this thing, there's nowhere to go. It affects, I don't know, 20% of the state because everybody's going north and south on one. Yeah. You know, it's not. It's not 95. That's conceptually. It's an entirely different thing. Michael, can you explain this better than I, that how it handicaps and brings all life to a standstill?

[Pam Ward]

Well, locally, if you're trying to run out to go to the grocery store, to go get gas, to. To go get a quick bite to eat with the kids, you know, when you're at the beach for lunch, like, you have to get on this highway, at least for a short stretch. There's. And there's cutoffs. So Nigel is able to get, like a little bit farther. Maybe you could go into a neighborhood to get around the worst of this. And then on the larger scale, if you're caroling, too, if you're bringing in, you know, larger trade trucks that are driving through the. Through the state, this is the. When you have that service call that's going to be eight, that's arriving between one to five. These are now going to be punted by hours as they're trying to get to you.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So Carroll was in it as well, a little bit earlier than Nigel. And Carol was at the Giant, and she bought those ice cream cones she likes, and they melted, of course, she stuck them in the freezer, and we'll see what happens. But, you know, it's 100 degree heat in a car. It's hotter than that. Yeah. And you're not moving. And she tried to go the back doorway, making the left by the Walgreens. People familiar with this area will know what I'm talking about. Going through the shopping plazas. Everything was closed. Yeah. You couldn't do it. You were rooted where you were rooted, and then you were stopped dead. And I would. I mean, I'd like to read about it and find out exactly what happened. And I. And that must be. That's going to be a great interview with the driver of that truck.

[Dan Stillman]

Yeah. What was going on.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Pam Ward]

Had to go get a Wawa.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. What? Yeah. So. And it happened right around.

[Dan Stillman]

Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was like one o' clock when it. When it happened and now. And they'd cleaned up a lot of it by the time I drove home last night. Although the road we still blocked, that entrance into the. The Fresh Market was still blocked off.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I don't have to go that way to get to the golf course.

[Dan Stillman]

But today, this morning, all gone.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Couldn't even.

[Dan Stillman]

There was not even a trace of anything that happened yesterday.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, good people, at any point, were.

[Pam Ward]

You worried about your car?

[Dan Stillman]

My car?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. No.

[Dan Stillman]

The only thing was, it was. So I had the top down.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh. Because I was like, bake. It's like to reapply 20 minutes.

[Dan Stillman]

It was like, I'm melting. So I had to, you know, I had to put the top up and.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, you weren't going anywhere. No. I bet people were just getting out of their car. Partisan dancing.

[Dan Stillman]

No, because you would move a little bit here and there and, and of course, there were the people on the right, the far light right lane, only supposed to use if you. Yeah, you're turning right and they're all going down it. And then putting the blankets on to try and get in the left. And you're just like.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You're cheating the system.

[Dan Stillman]

Stop it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So it took you almost two. Almost two hours to go four miles. That's not efficient. And that's. That was the story of the day yesterday. And then I, you know, I, I thought when I heard where it was, I was pretty sure I could make enough turns that I would avoid that. And I avoided it. And, you know, played nine and nine was fine. Maybe I'll do it. I don't know if I'll do it tonight. I mean, it was more crowded than I thought. There were like 50, 60 people out there.

[Dan Stillman]

Really?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, yeah. Everywhere you went, you would look across at another hole and there were people on. People were playing.

[Pam Ward]

So as it should be. I'm happy for you. You did two shows yesterday, and you still got out to play a twilight. Nine holes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Played nine, you know, shot about 55. Although I, I, it always happens I was playing terribly. Just, I was in every single sand trap from 4 through 8. 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. I was in traps all the way. Along the way. I was terrible. I was, you know, again, I'm playing with a kid who's. Yeah. Did you get a lesson from him past me?

[Dan Stillman]

Oh, nice shot, Mr. Kornheiser.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. No, he didn't know I was. But then I get to nine, I hit a good tee shot. I hit a good second shot. I get on in the third, and I. Part of the hole, and I say, I'm coming back. That's what they do, gets you, you know, that's why 9 and 18 are such important holes. They can't be that hard because they want you to come back.

[Dan Stillman]

Did the kid make you putt it out.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, I didn't putt out. You know, I didn't have to worry about putting out. I did talk about that with Lou and just tournaments are, they're too hard at this point anyway. That's more junk from my life. And we will come back. We're gonna. It's a summer show. So we have people that we don't. We have Pam Ward, who I love, and we're gonna. Don't turn off the show yet. When I say what we're. We're just gonna talk to Pam. Don't. I love Pam. Right. And then we have a guy from Capitol Weather gang.

[Dan Stillman]

Yes. Dan Stillman.

[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Michael]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Michael]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser Show. This is from Philip Martin, who writes. I'm Philip Martin, a columnist and critic. Critic at the Arkansas Democrat Gazette since 1993. I've been a fan of yours going back to your days writing for the Post Sports and Style. These days I'm a regular listener of the podcast A mutual friend. Wait for it. Dan Byrne suggested I send you a couple of songs I thought might fit the spirit of the show. One is called Cassius Clay, a piece about my relationship with my late father growing up in the era the Friday Night Fights. That's this song. This guy's great.

[Dan Stillman]

Yes, yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

This is Philip Martin.

[Dan Stillman]

Really good.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What are we doing? Why are we on the air and why aren't these people on the air? Later in the show, we're going to hear Savannah says, which is a sober account of a golf trip we took a few years ago called Life's Rich Pageant. Neither song contains any swearing or anything you'd have to bleep. Unlike most of my material. Philip Martin. Cassius Clay plays in Pam Ward. It's the summer I only talk to Pam occasionally. I love Pam Ward. Going back to the days when we worked together on real live radio. And I love Pam's voice. I would. If I could, I would ask Pam to just record a series of poems that she would read, and I would just listen to it all the time. So I'll catch up. I'll catch up because I'm out in Rehoboth. Do you still have the house out here? You still have the house?

[Michael]

Yes, I still. In a lesser neighborhood of yours, but yes, I still do. Yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So yours is in Dewey, right? You're in Dewey Beach?

[Michael]

Yes, I'm more. Yeah, the Southern end. Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. So. But you're not here now.

[Michael]

I'm in Connecticut now.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. So what are. What are you doing? What is. What is your work schedule now?

[Michael]

I am. This time of year, I am just. Yes, it's the wnba because it's the summer, so that's. That's what I do. I do women's college basketball in the winter. That goes into softball, and that goes into the wnba, and that's where we are right now.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Did you do the softball. Did you do, like, parts of the softball World Series?

[Michael]

I did not. I did not do the World Series. I did up through the super regionals, which is where we send teams to the World Series. And I was with Texas, and they're the ones who ultimately won. But, yeah, it's a great cover.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I'm. I'm going to say this to watch those games. They're better than the college World Series baseball games to me. They're more exciting. They are fabulous to watch. Do you enjoy broadcasting that?

[Michael]

Yeah, actually, it's. It's my favorite sport to call right now, just because there are different nuances with softball, and, you know, you have time to kind of weave in and out of stuff. But. And I agree. I think I covered college baseball for a while, and I think at times it was unwatchable. It's just slow, and there's not a lot of pitchers. And so, you know, scores can get elevated. But I think the singular hardest thing to do in sports is to hit if you get a quality pitcher. I don't know how anybody can hit a quality pitcher because they're releasing the ball about 60ft from home plate, some of them, and that's. I don't know how they do it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So the finals, I'm testing my own memory here, which is, you know, I'm unburdened by memory. But I believe the finals were Texas Tech in Texas, and I believe the Texas Tech pitcher pitched every single pitch of the tournament. And the coach at one point said, the only way I'll pitch her is if she's breathing. And then she got hit for five runs in the first inning and Texas held on and Texas won the World Series. What are your thoughts? Are the coaches, was she over pitched? She's great. Rj. Was that her name? Something like that?

[Michael]

Nige, People call her Nige. It's actually, it's 40ft. I messed up. It's 43ft. Oh, yeah, for the picture, yeah. I said 60. That's between bases. Pardon me. It's early for me. But yeah, Najeri Kennedy is her name and she. Or Nyjah. And she was. She came over from Stanford and very famously a million bucks and just resigned for 1.3 million for next year. But yes, yeah, it's very unusual for one pitcher. Used to be, back in the day one, you could ride one pitcher. But now people use staffs. But Nige is the best. And I think, I think what we saw from her was just wear and tear because when you get to the championship series, it's three games in three days, whereas the World Series, they have spaced it out. So it is possible to ride one arm. But yeah, and also once. These Texas hitters are great. They, they were, I know, definitely in the top five and batting average in the country. And they had seen her once. You see a pitcher that many times, you know, they can time her up a little bit. But, but yeah, I'm not surprised that. And Jerry Glasgow is the name of the head coach there at Tech, and I'm not surprised that, that they tried to ride her as, as, as much as possible.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So you do some softball and you're doing basketball. Are you doing soccer? Are you doing lacrosse, anything like that?

[Michael]

I am not. I am just doing basketball and softball right now. I did, I did do a little bit of volleyball and I think I did one soccer game like 10 years ago for, for ESPN. But we don't, we don't have a lot of soccer now other than. And that and now the seasons kind of bleed into each other, so it's kind of tough to overlap like that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, so we'll talk about women's basketball because there is an issue on the table in the, in one of the recent, probably the most recent Indiana game, there was a lot of physical activity. People were thrown to the ground. Thrown to. Some were pushed to the ground, but one woman was grabbed and thrown to the ground. And immediately the coaches said, what, hey, hey, what are we doing here? What are your thoughts about the physicality of basketball, women's basketball right now, are we over the line? And should the commissioner. Should the commissioner make a statement and say, hey, stop.

[Michael]

Yeah, I think part. Yes, the answer to that is yes. I think the physicality is getting a little bit out of control. And you're talking. It was Indiana playing Connecticut a few days ago, and I just actually had Indiana at Vegas a couple of days ago. And I think the major problem is the lack of quality officials. And that's something that I know. Stephanie White, the head coach for Indiana, addressed that and did not get fined, interestingly enough, after that. And part of the new collective bargaining agreement which expires after this season. And one of the points of emphasis for the players is to get the officiating to be better. And the officials in that Connecticut Indiana game, you remember Marina Mabry is her name, came in and. And kind of. And slammed into Caitlin Clark and she hit the deck. She did not get ejected in that game, which is unbelievable to me. Afterwards they upgraded it to a flagrant two, which means she would have been ejected in real time. But the officials totally lost track of that game, of that game. And then we saw what happened with Sophie Cunningham. Grabbed JC Sheldon towards the end.

[Tony Kornheiser]

She grabbed the girl to the ground. She's sure.

[Michael]

Yeah, she grabbed her around her and. And if anybody doesn't know Sophie Cunningham, she's. She was a great player at Missouri, still a very good player, but she is someone who, who I don't know if a Bill Lambert type player, but she kind of loves that physicality and, and has embraced that role of sort of being the enforcer for Caitlin Clark and has verbalized that many times.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, I mean, just threw it to the ground. So. So this brings me to Caitlin Clark and I thought, I mean, I certainly thought this last year there was a woman on Chicago who just threw her to the ground and then was applauded by the other Chicago players for doing that. And it seemed to be open season on Caitlin Clark. She got in this particular game, she got poked in the eye and she retaliated and boom, she was on the ground.

[Michael]

Are.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Do you sense that players are out to get her still?

[Michael]

If they ever were out to get her, is it. I think last year it was to be expected because she was the most hyped, probably the most hyped rookie ever in the league. And I, I don't. And Caitlin plays pretty physical herself. It's not like she's like this, you know, this, you know, little lamb just, you know, going out there and playing Basketball.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And she's a whiner. She's, she's a winer. She is, you know, she, she has.

[Michael]

Let'S just say she is an ongoing dialogue with officials.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes. Wait, that's not a foul. Come on, I just got fouled. Hey, are you in? She does that all, she does that all the time. You have to say that. That's true.

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah. And, and oftentimes she has a point, but it does, you know, human nature is, you know, it's like the boy who crawled cried wolf. You have to kind of pick your spots. But, but yeah, I think, I don't know, I think she still is, is definitely. She's number one at the top of everybody's scouting report and they're going to put their most physical defenders on her. They're going to put multiple defenders on her. And that's part. You talk to every coach before we do games and they will all say she doesn't like physicality. So they're go out and be physical with her. And you know, this turns it around back to the officials is when, you know, we don't want to see a whistle on every possession, but there are certain things that they can do to clean it up so that things don't escalate. But yeah, Caitlyn is, Caitlyn is still getting a lot of attention physically.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Do the other people in the WNBA not understand that she's buttering the bread? I mean, did you, I know you must be aware of this, the television ratings when she was out, they totally cratered. It was like 55%. Right?

[Michael]

Yeah, that's what I read. That was the number I saw as well. Yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Michael]

And when she is, you know, when she is in there, we're getting great numbers. But yeah, I think the league is certainly, the league is certainly aware of it and I don't know if they certainly would ever admit that she should be protected. But I think, I think it's going to be addressed. And I know, as I said with the players association, they're, they're fed up with it and it's just a matter of time before somebody gets really hurt. So that's something that, that they need to clean up and they want to make that part of the next, next agreement.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I'm, my sense of women's basketball is, is that it is, I'm not saying it's a rocket ship, but college basketball feeds in within a month or so to pro basketball. And I think Caitlin Clark's television ratings notwithstanding, I think that the in person arena Attendance is way up around the league, isn't it?

[Michael]

Oh, it's, it's. It's amazing. It's. It's. And it's. It's really across the board. And Golden State has a new team, the Valkyries. And I had, I was there a couple of weeks ago, and they've been. They've had six or seven home games in. Every single one of them has been a sellout. It's over 18,000 people, and it's, I mean, legit, like, packed to the rafters. They're loud. And when Indiana played and lost their. Before they went to Vegas, we heard the comment that that was sort of their first true road game because there are pockets of these Caitlin Clark fans wherever you go, so there's always, there's always fever kind of momentum in buildings. But in Golden State, they were all in for the Valkyries. But, yeah, attendance is way up. They just signed a new broadcasting deal. So there's a lot of. There's a lot of money for a lot of money.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, yeah, there's. There's real money coming into the wnba, which is great. I mean, we're not going to get into that nonsensical argument that their players should be played what NBA players are paid, because the economics don't support that. But their players should get a lot more than they're getting now because they're. It's like the Women's World Cup. They're bringing in eyeballs and they're bringing in fannies in the city receipts. You have to pay that off, right?

[Michael]

Yeah, they should. Yes. I mean, they tripled the money that they had before. We have other networks, not just espn, who are getting in on it, and they want the. And there are players who are saying, look, we don't expect to be paid like the NBA players, because, as you say, the, you know, the money that they bring in is not nearly, not close to what the NBA is. But what they're looking for is an equitable, just like with the NDA, a 50, 50 split of the revenue, which they are not getting right now. There are certain things that they tweak that they're not getting. And that's. And that's one. That's what they're. They're looking for in this next agreement, because the money's there now, and they can't use that as an excuse.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, there's no question. It's like the money was always there. It's like in golf. They start the Saudi tour and all of this money goes around and Then suddenly, within an hour, the PGA purses have tripled because the money's there. Yeah, they. It's there for all of these sports. If the sports are popular, and you can see with women's basketball on the high college level and on the pro level that there is a undeniable growing popularity. Will that happen with soccer as well? I don't know. I don't know if the soccer leagues bring in those kinds of people. I mean, will it happen in lacrosse? I mean, you don't know, but.

[Michael]

I'm sorry.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Go ahead.

[Michael]

No, I was just going to say when we are seeing again, people talk about the Caitlin Clark effect, women's sports professionally. There's a new women's professional softball league. There's a professional hockey league that is doing quite well, but, you know, mostly in Canada, but yeah, things like that. So there is sort of an uptick, certainly in all of women's sports, which is great because, you know, because we've just had leagues come and go and some of those other sports. And you see the TV ratings, like when the US Women's national soccer team plays, their. Their ratings are great. And so. And I think. And advertisers finally are. Are starting to. To realize that. I think it's been a neglected. Women's sports has been neglected and undervalued for decades. And finally, you know, hopefully that's changed.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I agree with a lot of that. I mean, half the people in the country are women. You know, they should have the opportunity, you know, and by the way, if the leagues fail, okay, as long as the opportunity was there and then they'll restart again. I mean, the soccer, men's soccer in America has failed for 50 years, basically, you know, and it restarts and sometimes it gets a little bit better and they bring people in like they bring in Lionel Messi, and he is to the mls, I think, what Caitlin Clark is to the wnba. Right.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I mean, everybody wants to see him. So.

[Michael]

Yeah. And that's what the MLS has become. It's like, we're great players, come and finish their careers, you know, like David Beckham and people like that. Yes. So that's. That's. Yeah. And yet when Messi came over, that was like life changing for that league. And, you know, he turned down a lot of money. He could have gone and played in Saudi Arabia and he turned down a lot, you know, or, you know, not that he's not getting a lot of money from Miami, but the money. Right, A lot of money. But the. But obscene amount of money had he gone to play in that other league and he came, he came to Miami, which was great.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's so good to talk with you. This makes me very happy.

[Michael]

Oh, it makes me happy to talk to you too.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All right, Be good.

[Michael]

I'll try. You too.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Pam Ward, boys and girls, we'll take a break. Dan Stillman will join us to talk about this heat bubble that's killing us all. I'm Tony Kornheiser. This is the Tony Kornheiser Show. TONY Kornheiser Show Once again. This is Philip Martin, who's a columnist and critic at the Arkansas Democrat Gazette and a palad, Dan Burns and a fabulous singer musician. This is called Savannah says it's just wonderful. And he writes if you find either of both of my songs suitable for the show, I'd be thrilled. I've got my eighth album of solo work coming out soon, but neither of these are on it, so there's nothing to pump either way. Thanks for all the years of smart conversations and laughs that meant a lot. Absolutely wonderful. Philip. Yes, Please listen at the end of the show where I don't interrupt him, he plays in Dan Stillman of the Capitol Weather Gang. You have heard me say, say this many times as one of the few remaining subscribers to the print edition of the Washington Post. The first thing I do, because my job depends on it, is I look at the sports section and the second thing I do is I go to the Metro section which is going to be folded into another section soon, and I look at the Capital Weather Gang and then, then I get on my phone because when you have a print subscription, you also have an online subscription. And I read the Capital Weather Gang, I don't know, 15 to 18 times a day. And now Dan Stillman, you know, Jason Salmonell has been in the box. Now Dan Stillman is in the box. How hot today's Tuesday. How hot is it going to be in the Washington, D.C. area where I am not physically at the moment? And when will this thing abate to the degree that a human being can drive back home?

[Dan Stillman]

Well, that's, that's subjective. First of all, we like the multi day repeat refresh customers. So thank you, Tony. Yeah, yeah, it's hot. It sure is hot. It's not going to end today, it's not going to end tomorrow. It'll be better by Thursday. And then Friday will be kind of a normal day and then we'll heat up again on the weekend. But I promise it'll be, it won't be terrible for the Savannah Bananas Friday and Saturday, if that's what most people care about. So that's, that's kind of where we are. But we're going to be up near 100 today. We're going to be up near, probably upper 90s to near 100 tomorrow. Heat index, you know, 105 to 110 today and tomorrow at the, at the highest, you know, in the afternoon and, you know, it's hot. The worst part are the night. You know, that's, that's, that's the biggest problem is that, you know, we're only getting down to about 80 degrees at night. And it just makes it hard for the body to sort of recover from the heat. You know, even, even those of us lucky enough to have reliable air conditioning, it still has an impact on the body overall.

[Tony Kornheiser]

How large is this, this heat footprint? How large across and what parts of the United States? How big is it? It's not just in Washington. I can't imagine that.

[Dan Stillman]

Yeah, no, it's, it's what we call these, one of these high pressure heat domes. Just a small sprawling area of high pressure. It's kind of centered over Washington, unfortunately. But it's, you know, it's the mid Atlantic, it's the Northeast down into the, in a portion of the southeast and out, out west kind of into the Midwest. So it's the eastern, sort of between the eastern third and eastern half of the country and a pretty wide stretch from, from north to north to south, especially Boston to D.C. i would, I.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Mean, I'm not an idiot. It's the summer. I understand it gets hot, you know, but, but this is extraordinarily hot. And this is referred to as being this bubble or footprint or whatever. And it seems a little out of the ordinary. What causes this? Or is it just in the normal course of events yet gets this hot?

[Dan Stillman]

Yeah, I mean, we kind of get asked this every year. It just gets this hot. Now it doesn't get this hot every year, every time, but at this point it's almost every other year at least. And lately it's been, it's been more often than that. So you just get this pattern. In the summers you get these large areas of high pressure. Again, we kind of call them these heat domes and they just, they suppress the cloud cover and they bake the land underneath. And you're getting, you know, a little bit of an influence. And you know, there's always debate on what the influences from, you know, climate change over the years. But we're seeing sort of the bigger influence is not Necessarily the daytime highs because with all these heat waves it's just always near 100. You know, that's kind of the peak, especially in D.C. you know, we're going to get to 99, 101 to 1. That's going to be your usual daytime high. And these extreme heat waves, the night have been more influenced sort of over the years trending warmer. That's been kind of exacerbating the impact of the heat wave. So, you know, if you dip to, you know, the low to mid-70s more often, you know, years ago during heat waves, now we're only getting down to 76, 77, sometimes not even below 80 down in the urban heat island of DC. And so that's making kind of that overall average temperature for the heat wave worse and worse impacts, especially for the vulnerable populations. Children, older adults, those with chronic illness.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Me, the elderly, me and my dog. A long haired dog. Me, Me and my dog. Me.

[Dan Stillman]

Yeah, so sorry to bring that up.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, no, I understand it. Elderly. Hello. Get me off this train. I'm elderly. Get me on the other train. Okay, so I was searching for the right word here. I may have gotten it, I'm not sure. We have this heat dome that, that is bad. We had a, an unusually cold winter, not a tremendous amount of snow, but colder than we normally have. We've gotten periods where it's really rainy for like a week or 10 days at a time. And we had that stuff in January, February and March with winds of above 50 miles an hour. There was one point where I read a story that said in a three week period we had more winds above 50 miles an hour than we had in a 10 year period prior to that. And so the word I thought might work is angrier. We are having angrier weather patterns. Am I exaggerating that or do you see that as well?

[Dan Stillman]

No, you're onto something. I would call it, I like angrier. I would call it streaky, much more streaky, which kind of, we know in the sports world it's the influence of. There is some research on this. You know, with, with climate change, the jet stream has been slowed down at times into sort of a more stagnant pattern. So you'll kind of get stuck in these, in these patterns, whereas you used to break out of them more quickly. And so that's what we're seeing. You know, we were in a drought for months and months and months and that just, you know, that's gone by the wayside. We just got pounded with, you know, 10 million gallons of Rain over the course of a couple of weeks. I'm exaggerating, though. Don't quote me on that number. But, you know, so we're seeing kind of these streaks, you know, like you said, with the windy pattern and then the rainy pattern and then the cold winter and then the unusually warm summers. It's just the jet stream kind of getting stuck, stuck. And that's a known influence of climate change, where you see these patterns kind of stagnating.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I sense that. I mean, I know this is true in local newscasts. It's true in my life. Reading the Capital Weather Gang, like, you were the first people we turn to all the time. You know, it's like weather becomes that thing which. Which everybody relates to and wants to know about. Do you get that? So sense. I mean, when you meet people and you tell them what you do, what is their reaction to that?

[Dan Stillman]

It depends. There's definitely the, you know, there's the weather fanboy that comes out or fan girl that comes out. And some people. Some people have never heard of us and have no clue who we are. It runs the gamut. But it's usually a fun conversation. You know, people love to talk about the weather. We, ever since we started doing the forecast on another local radio station, actually, we've been doing that about 10 years. That's really kind of increased exposure, because for all the exposure you get on the Internet, when people hear you on the radio, they kind of have a higher view of you. Just. People love to talk about the weather, and we love to talk about the weather. And we hope that we kind of give people a nuanced view and a more contextual view of the weather than you're just going to get from your average weather app on your phone.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, the best thing that you do is you say when you're wrong.

[Dan Stillman]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You know, I mean, on TV, nobody ever says they were wrong, and they're wrong 50% of the time. But you guys say we got this wrong, and here's why we think we got it wrong. So I like that. So thanks for being on and just, you know, do what you can to make it a little cooler around here. Thank you, Dan.

[Dan Stillman]

We're trying. It's coming. Thank you, Tony.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, Dan Stillman, boys and girls from the Capitol Weather Gang.

[Dan Stillman]

Yes, the Washington Post.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I am. Yeah. I'm obsessed. Well, not like Kevin. No, I'm not as crazy as Kevin.

[Dan Stillman]

No. But honestly, anybody that's lived in D.C. for any amount of time when, you know, when you want to know what the weather's going to be. It's the capital weather gang and then everybody else.

[Tony Kornheiser]

They're really good. All right. We will come back with email and jingle. I'm Tony Kornheiser. Fourth of July savings are here at the Home Depot, so it's time to get your grilling on. Pick up the traeger Pro Series 22 Pellet Grill and Smoker now on special buy for $389. Was $549. Smoke a rack of ribs or bake an apple pie. This grill is versatile enough to do it all this summer. No matter how you like your steaks, your barbecues are guaranteed to be well done. Celebrate 4th of July with fast Frito.

[Dan Stillman]

Lo on select grills.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right now at the Home Depot. It's up to availability. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser Show. The Tony Kornheiser Show. Hey, Alan, did you know it's time for Tony's mailbag? Really, Glenn? Is Tony gonna read some emails, faxes and notes? He sure is, Alan. He's gonna read them for all the folks.

[Philip Martin]

Gee, Glenn, that's swell.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's the fabulously funny Norwegian soft kitten with him.

[Dan Stillman]

You played bass for a number of years, right?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Just. I did. So great. You want to do the Bethesda bagel ad?

[Dan Stillman]

Yes, Bethesda bagels.

[Michael]

We love them.

[Dan Stillman]

You as well.

[Tony Kornheiser]

We're not that. We're not near them. No, we're 100 miles away from them.

[Dan Stillman]

But we still love them.

[Tony Kornheiser]

We love them.

[Dan Stillman]

Just go to Bethesda bagels dot com.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I'm really wishing I could have a bagel sandwich right now.

[Dan Stillman]

Yeah, Their bagel sandwiches are better than the ones down here.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes, they're better.

[Dan Stillman]

We love surf bagel, but Bethesda Bagels, our first choice. Yeah. Bethesda Bagels.com for location in the D.C. area. Shoot. Then pop it in and you'll be thrilled.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All right. Before we get to the mailbag, let me just say my love is bigger than a Cadillac. I try to show it and you're driving me back. Your love for me has got to be real. For you to know just how I feel. Love for real. Not fade away. That is the late, great Buddy Holly. Yes, that is the day the music died. Buddy Holly. And it was covered even by the Rolling Stones.

[Dan Stillman]

By lots of people. Very well.

[Tony Kornheiser]

By the Rolling Stones. Very well by the Rolling Stones. Not fade away. It's a great tune. Thanks to our guest today, Pam Ward. Dan Stillman of the Capital Weather Gang. Thanks as well to today's sponsors. Remember you can listen to us on Apple podcasts Spotify and Odyssey. Get the show through Apple. Please leave us a review. This from Steve Rogers. Earlier this year I wrote to you suggesting a round of golf at the Pete Dye course in Bully Rock about an hour from you when you're in the D.C. area. I even heard you guys on the podcast refer to the letter, putting it in the special file. While any May or June dates has originally proposed a past, I'm still very much interested in a round with you and your team. Me and my team is me and Michael. That's the team.

[Pam Ward]

I think it's you and Lucas at this point.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Well, I hope perhaps we could schedule something in the latter half of July through September, sometimes convenient for your schedule. So that's really nice. And it goes back in the.

[Dan Stillman]

Back in the special pile.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Michael, have you play. You say I played Bully Rock. I don't think.

[Pam Ward]

I think you have. It's always one of those top, you know, top courses in Maryland, but it's just on the edge of.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Of.

[Pam Ward]

Of sort of your playing perimeter.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's. Yeah, it's all the way north. It's at the top of Maryland. I mean, it's. I think it's about an hour 15, an hour 20 from the house. I'm not exactly sure. All right. This is from Andrew Rubin, still in la. It's long, but I'm going to read it. I usually start with High Tony or some such, but I was just memorized. Mesmerized by your reminiscence on Brian Wilson. Such pieces are one of the reasons you're in my pantheon of sports live commentators. When someone gets me to think about something in a way I've not done before, the sun rises and the drapes are pulled back so that I can soak it all in. It was that way when I belatedly almost caught up listen to your Wilson Beachboard tribute. I often think of the similarities that you and I share. A New York background, Greenwich Village for me, our age, our enchantment with a written word and real, real newspapers. As you can see, I adopted your liberal use of parentheses in my writing. I never got into music except as background white noise. Parsing Brian Wilson songs as you did would never have occurred to me. I thought popular music was, to paraphrase a proud Chicago and hocus pocus junk. The drapes are back and I begin to understand that I miss the boat on this big time. Thank you or curse you. Maybe both. I've never been much of a concert goer I dislike crowds, though. Strangely, I marched a lot in the anti war protest. I've never gotten into the music and I hate when the crowd sings along. After I came to hear the Beatles. Not 50,000 stone narcissists, but there used to be a fundraiser every year for Adopt a Minefield, a group that supported landmine removal. It was dinner and a Fairly intimate concert, 900 to 1200 folks, with Paul McCartney and a second act that he brought with him. One year it was Tony Bennett. Wow. Once James Taylor. And one year, Brian Wilson. My family was involved in Adopt a Minefield, so I was able to get great seats and a date. How'd you like to grab dinner and meet Paul McCartney? Worked every time.

[Dan Stillman]

Yeah, that's a good one.

[Tony Kornheiser]

This must have been 20 to 25 years ago. And Wilson was pretty compromised. But the event was fun, highlighted by McCartney coming on stage to sing a duet with Wilson at the end of the new Beach Boys set and Wilson getting back on stage to do a second duet at the end of McCartney's set. Sir Paul noted that it was only the second time they'd ever sung a duet together. How lucky was I? And I didn't realize it until now. There's a certain irony in your growing up Beach Boy infused thinking that California was the promised land let you ended up in D.C. while I grew up thinking California was vapid, frivolous and silly. And I landed here in 1967 to attend college and have pretty much lived here ever since, with a couple of situational temporary stays in Florida and D.C. as always, thanks for a gazillion years of helping me to laugh and become a better writer. But that is so kind. I mean, that is. It's very long, but it's so very kind. And to be able to say that you could meet Paul McCartney on an annual basis. I mean, you know, I talked about this the other day that he wrote that tribute to Brian Wilson and simply signed it Paul, Paul. You know who it is. Yeah, everybody knows who it is. Everybody. All right. Neil Ayervase, our lawyer friend in Littleton, Colorado. Having waited what seems like an eternity to hear George Bushby speak, I'm happy to report that his appearance on Monday's podcast produced the most insightful, intelligent, entrenching 16 sentences uttered in recent memory. Tony's interview skills remain unparalleled. Michael, what did we think of George? We thought the best, weren't we? Yeah, I love George. This is from Joe in Rehoboth Beach. This is my second email into the show, so if we get this one chosen, I'll be 1 and 1. A stone's throw 5 and 11 my first email discussed how I met and know mutual friend David Crone. The second email will have a similar thing While I sat down at Thompson island on Friday night with the assistant pros I work with at King's Creek, we were graced with the presence of none other than Mr. George Bushby. I've gotten to know George well since I moved to Rehoboth 18 months ago, having the privilege to play golf with the him on several occasions. I've talked about your show with George in the past, and when we exchanged cell phone numbers, I entered him into my phone under the contact name. George said nothing. It seemed appropriate. On Friday night, George told me he was going back to the show on Monday after the weekend of the RBCC Member member. I was excited to hear he would be back and told me that he would give me a shout out. So we shall see by the time you read this in the mailbag if George said nothing or more than something. Indeed, the show has continued to feel like one streamlined David Aldrich moment, getting to know the cast and characters around the beach part of the podcast. When he told the story about talking in the shop shop with George and Pat the day you beat the rain and were the only person on the course, I smiled and said to myself, I know those guys. Thanks again for always giving us something to talk about. The invitation I extended last year still stands. You're welcome to join us anytime to play at King's Creek. I might know a guy who can make sure you get the reciprocal rate. And that's from Joe Gill, which is very nice. And Michael, you and I have played King's Creek a million times.

[Pam Ward]

Yeah, yeah, we have. I mean, it's always fun.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's fun. It's right. It's fun to play it particularly there's.

[Pam Ward]

A few holes in the background. And also if you're going to Thompson island, they have a great a wood fired salmon platter that's really good.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh, okay. No information for life. Yes, from Steve Kaplan in Alpharetta, Georgia, formerly Fayetteville, North Carolina and in Jerusalem, I think the best book on growing potatoes is by Zora Neale Hurston. Their Eyes Were Watching God. I haven't actually read it, but from the title the subject matter is obvious. Are we now lining up books about growing potatoes that can't be about potatoes? Potatoes? Justin Johnson, Arlington, Virginia I'm going to be honest, I'm in a little over my head when you first started talking about planting potatoes, I thought to myself, I've got potatoes soil in a pot. I can do this along with Tony and it'll be a lot of fun. So I grabbed a potato with a bunch of eyes, cut it up, and planted several of the chunks in some soil. After a few days, there were multiple green sprouts that popped up and I followed the instructions one of the emailers sent in and just mounded about 6 inches of extra soil on top. I told myself, this is simple. Now I just wait. In a few months, I go digging for potatoes. Yes, that's exactly how I feel. Yeah, but no, these things just keep growing. Another week or so has gone by and now I've got six plants that all have grown out of that additional soil and are way too big for the original pot. After a run to Home Depot for five more pots and six bags of soil, I'm up to my elbows and plants. And honestly, I'm not even really a potato fan. Okay, but you can go to a farmer's market and sell your potatoes if.

[Dan Stillman]

You want, like a profit.

[Tony Kornheiser]

From Jay Wolf in Delaware, Ohio. I was tickled to hear my recent email read on the air, but was slightly disappointed to hear that no one had heard of Delaware, Ohio. Maybe we need to hire a better publicist. Delaware is the birthplace of Rutherford B. Hayes.

[Dan Stillman]

Oh, okay.

[Tony Kornheiser]

19Th president. The home of Ohio Wesleyan University, whose many alumni include Branch Ricky. Each September, Delaware hosts Little Brown Jug, the top harness horse race for Pacers. Doing my best to educate from Ricky Herb or Ricky Herb, we never know in Barnegat, New Jersey. I have a bone to pick with you, grandpa. I know you're a Big and you get to golf multiple times a week, but a lot of us Littles only get out a few times a year and those times are cherished. So when you talk about a three hour round and Michael chimes in that it's the dream, the woman who's related to me in marriage shot me a look like I was the devil. Now, I'm not a slow player. I keep up. I let fast players pass if they have your patience. I have patience. I do. I'd rather go faster though. But we need to express to you how great five hour rounds are now. Might be a four hour round in an hour at the 19th hole, but a three hour expectation will ruin my time on the course. I understand that. Yeah, I understand that. Because it's a leisurely activity, it's also.

[Pam Ward]

Course in time, depending.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes, absolutely. I don't. I mean I played in this tournament. It was five hours. I knew it was going to be five hours. It's okay. Yeah. You know, I wish it was faster, but it's. It's okay. From Caleb in Washington, D.C. i would like to submit my delayed but heartfelt appreciation of your tribute to Brian Wilson. Particularly your ex Jesus exegesis English teacher. What is that word? Exegesis?

[Pam Ward]

You're looking at critical explanation or interpretation of a text, especially of a scripture. So I think it's also been respectful of the oeuvre of the Beach Boys.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Do you know how to pronounce the word exegesis?

[Pam Ward]

Exegesis.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Ex. Okay. Of Don't Worry Baby. My wife and I danced the Don't Worry Baby at our wedding, which raised a few eyebrows, I suppose. I don't know why, but I keep thinking something's bound to go wrong. Is a riskier choice for a wedding dance than Ellis for the way you look at me. However, your segment captured exactly what stands out about this song. For me and the woman to whom I'm related by marriage, love is the antidote to life's fears. But that statement implies that life has its shares of fears. Yes. Which Brian Wilson articulated. I believe the certified classic status of Don't Worry Baby indicates that even if this view of love surprises us in a song, it also resonates powerfully. Which is good because if not, I've just aired myself out of a show that my parents also listen to and I'll be getting a very concerned phone call. So. No, you're right, Caleb, you're right. You're 100% right. Kyle Caldwell. Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. Somehow, the NBA Finals and the talk about if this is the Cowboys year or not being the biggest news in sports that slipped through the cracks. This past Friday, World Curling announced new changes to the approved brushes, effective immediately, Brushes have gotten too firm, allowing for more control by the sweepers. There'll be a change to softer brooms that will bring more importance to the thrower working with the skip to ensure correct weight and line. It will be interesting to see how the teams adapt to these changes in the run up to the Olympics. Because that's a Winter Olympic sport. It's about time. We've been can't wait to hear your thoughts on this fundamental change in occurring. I believe that every change to every sport that recognizes the current status of the sport is good. Yes, because you don't want to get stuck in 50 years ago. I mean, if you told me we were going to raise the basket in basketball to ten and a half feet. I'm good with that, you know, because the players now on the pro level certainly they're so big, they're so strong, they're so fast, they jump so high. 10ft baskets, nothing seem low. They that doesn't seem like a challenge from CJ in the land of Wilbourne. Just a weird number related coincidence for those who are so inclined. A weird quirk of these NBA playoffs is that the three stars carried off with Achilles injuries. Damian Lillard, Jason Tatum and now Halliburton all wear number zero. Makes you wonder where Gilbert Arenas is when you need him. Always love the show. Tell Dale Jennings at the North End bar to eat it from Peter Jennings. Not that Peter Jennings of course. My absolute favorite part of your podcast is the Nats update and corresponding Nats bullpen reports. Dom Smith and Josh Bell, MVP chances, etc. As my only Nats interest is through your show, I thought you had to be exaggerating how terrible the bullpen is this year. That was until I saw the Dodgers game the other day and was stunned. The Nat starter looked like the second coming of Bob Gibson or better Max Scherzer then, and I say this not to rub salt in your wounds, the opposite actually. I'm equally astonished and impressed that you can actually watch these games, this type of performance night after night. That's a true fan and most admirable and quite amazing. Well, I'm not watching the west coast games because they're too late. Yeah, you know, you can watch the start. I can. I should have last night. I love when they beat San Diego because I don't like Machado. I don't like San Diego.

[Dan Stillman]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I mean, I want them to lose to the Nats and to the Dodgers. I want him to lose to everybody actually. I just really don't like them. I never have. Never have. 103 degrees in Garden City, Long island tomorrow. This comes from Ian. This is a haiku. My 12 year old kid has attract me Tuesday night. Won't you take my place? No, no, but that's funny if you're out on your bike. Tight. Everyone is always to wear white salad sandwiches. That's fun.

[Philip Martin]

Well, my father, he was a middleweight, but I never saw him fight. Still, he showed me how to throw a jab and a combo with a right. He'd cup my head in his hand and scrape his beard against my cheek. He was whiskey and Old Spice when I was he Pipsqueak. And I remember Friday nights when he turned on the TV I don't know who killed Davey Moore I should hope that it wasn't me well, my father, he was a middleweight Many years ago he fought the onion farmer from upstate Carmen Basilio and he lost a split decision and he never boxed again and a little goomba took a belt away from From Sugar Ray Robinson and I remember Friday nights when he turned the TV on We were watching the night Griffith prove he weren't no Morricone and I remember a Gillette safety blade calling Black Label beer A sizzling gray fireplace Dad's cauliflower beer and I remember pretty Cassius Clay stinging like a bee that when he was still a Negro oh, he became Ali and my father, he was a middleweight he thought the bigger guys were slow but he said Ollie was more than great he was the best we ever gonna know and I remember Friday nights when he turned on the TV I don't, I don't know who killed Davey Moore I should hope that it wasn't me yeah my father, he was a middleweight the Golden Gloves he won he died when he was 48 when I was 21 sometimes I wonder if he'd understand the softness of my hands they never had to work too hard Hope he understand.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And I.

[Philip Martin]

Remember Friday night when he turned on the TV I don't know who killed Davey Moore Or I should hope that it wasn't me I don't know who killed Davey More I should hope that it wasn't me yeah, I hope that it wasn't me yeah, I hope that it wasn't me Charleston's just a little birthday cake for me it's nice I suppose to wear your tourist clothes Fort Sumter slumps back against the fantasy I get the appeal but it's so surreal I keep on looking round trying to catch the cash Backstage where Cinderella smokes and tells dirty jokes Savannah says we're living in a silver Age On a pirate coast with avocado toast There's a picture in a paper of a man who looks like me he could be my son, you know he took a gun and he walked into a prayer circle at an ame A pretty whitewashed church he did his own research.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And.

[Philip Martin]

Was hard between the Grand Goo Guggenhe and Walt Disney all the PTSD it's got its hooks in me Savannah says you're either sick or in recovery Got your therapy come have a cup of.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Tea.

[Philip Martin]

Now put the clubs in the trunk cause we're headed down to Hilton Head I got three days off I want to play some golf and check out the sailboats on the Calabogi Sound and just hang around old Harbor Town A young person walks into a school in Tennessee and they shelter in place as the steps retrace some misgendered wallow and misgendered misery and cops with body cams and detailed diagrams every this congresswoman with an AR15 pin she says not again oh I hate to sin Savannah says the gears of justice grind we hear them gnashing wine come have a glass of wine and we're caught between the Grand Gonal and Walt Disney. You know the PTSD it's got its hooks in me you say a little blood refreshment, the tree of liberty. You don't talk like that to me. That's just insanity Savannah says a city here is full of ghosts we take a horse drawn tour men julep and manure Savannah says you're either sick or in recovery come have a glass of tea I got your therapy but we're caught between the grand gon all in Walt Disney all the PTSD it's got its hooks in me all the PTSD it's got its hooks in me.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Sa.