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Tony Kornheiser (0:00)

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Tony Kornheiser (1:00)

Previously on the Tony Kornhauser Show. I think their work is great, so I was really happy I got to sit with them. Sit with the sports editor, sit with Rennie, sit with Verluga. That was that. I. I liked it. You welcomed people, but you didn't make a speech. Did you think of making a speech? Other people made speeches. You did not.

James Carville (1:23)

I made a little speech. You know, I. Yeah, well, it wasn't about me. I wanted it to be.

Tony Kornheiser (1:28)

It was about you. This is General George Washington and you're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. All right, we're doing an extra show. This is the last day of the contract here, and we didn't even contract for 150. I just said, let's do 150. And then I got to 150 and I had this week off, and I can't be off. I can't unless I'm away. And I'm never away.

Michael Wilbon (1:54)

And you don't want to go away.

Tony Kornheiser (1:55)

I don't want to go away, so I can't be off. So we did 151 and now this is 152. Yeah. What can I say? You're spared Nat stuff. The Nats went to the Yankees, got crushed, gave up 6,000 home runs. They got crushed. I mean, it's, you know, one team is a good team and one team is a bad team. And the entire three games were boom, boom, boom. It's okay, you know, but speaking of boom, boom, boom, Former Nat. It wasn't there long, was there? Like, I don't know, three months, four months.

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Tony Kornheiser Show

Episode: “Tailgating with James Carville”
Date: August 29, 2025
Host: Tony Kornheiser
Special Guests: James Carville, Chris Clary, Michael Wilbon

Episode Overview

In this episode, Tony Kornheiser welcomes political consultant and die-hard college football fan James Carville to celebrate the return of college football, swapping insights on tailgating, the culture of the sport, and key games in the upcoming season. Chris Clary joins later to discuss the US Open and the evolving narratives in contemporary tennis. The episode blends Tony’s signature wit and banter with heartfelt sports and cultural commentary.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Milestones, Team Dynamics, and Baseball Banter

Tony marks a new episode milestone, joking about his commitment to keep working (“We did 151 and now this is 152… I can’t be off. I can’t unless I’m away. And I’m never away.” 01:28).
The group reflects on recent Washington Nationals struggles and Kyle Schwarber's historic four-home-run game (02:29).
“Kyle Schwarber, who has become the greatest leadoff hitter in baseball…21st game in major league history…someone’s had four home runs in one game.” – Tony Kornheiser [02:29]

2. NFL Trades and Ryder Cup Captain Picks

Tony and Michael analyze the high-profile Micah Parsons trade and what it means for Dallas Cowboys' GM Jerry Jones and the Packers’ enhanced standing (06:09–07:28).
The crew breaks down the US Ryder Cup team, focusing on captain Keegan Bradley’s controversial decision not to pick himself as a player [08:03].
“The captain of the team, Keegan Bradley, could have picked himself and nobody would have said not deserving because totally deserving…” – Tony [09:20]
Wilbon praises Bradley’s leadership and the complexities of team dynamics: “This is what captains do. You have to make the difficult decisions.” [10:28]

3. Anecdotes: Golf Outings and Local Camaraderie

Tony and Michael share a story about running into Arch Campbell on the golf course and their friendly match (“We join solitary player on number 13, and it is one Arch Campbell…” – Michael [14:18])
Plug for Arch Campbell’s new book, The Accidental Critic [15:22]

The Main Event: James Carville on College Football

[17:12–34:00]

Return of “Midnight Special” & Carville’s College Roots

Tony introduces James Carville with their traditional “Midnight Special” singalong, signaling the start of college football.
Carville shares about growing up near LSU, where football defined both sport and culture in the South, particularly in Louisiana:
- “I grew up…20 miles south of Tiger Stadium…LSU football…their entire life has kind of been the defining—not just sports schedule, but cultural schedule too…in the South, the fall was our glorious time of year because the summers are more hideous.” – Carville [18:29]

On Tailgating Culture

Discussion about the unique SEC tailgating scene (“Night football is synonymous with LSU football…if kickoff is at 7, they’re out there two days before.” – Carville [21:50])
Carville cements LSU’s superiority: “There’s nothing close to tailgating at LSU…what the shit they eat in Alabama? White barbecue crap.” [24:05]
Tony notes the friendly rivalry between SEC fans over who tailgates best.

College Football’s Regional Culture & Future

Carville laments college football’s shift toward a mega-conference structure, moving away from traditional regional flavors (“It’s going to be 28 teams…just the Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, Northwestern, Purdue game is not going to cut it.” [23:01])
On the South’s hold: “College football in some ways…it’s a southern sport. It’s obviously huge in the Midwest. West coast football has just suffered.” [23:01]

The Manning Family and the Big Opener

Insight into Arch Manning’s pedigree and the family’s influence (“They are the first family of football. Have you ever heard a Manning say a stupid thing?” – Carville [25:27])
Talks Arch’s readiness: “That’s a lot, asking the sophomore quarterback to first big game, to go into Ohio Stadium.” [27:44]
Both agree: Texas at Ohio State is the biggest college football event in August, possibly ever.

Expanded Playoffs, NIL, and Transfer Portal

Carville supports Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL): “I actually like the NIL…people bitch about it; when these kids were making nothing…” [31:04]
Discusses LSU’s aggressive use of the transfer portal, uncertainty about instant team chemistry, and the upshot in recruiting losses and gains.

Early Picks & Heisman Watch

Carville touts South Carolina over on wins, thinks they’ll surprise people (“Take South Carolina in over a number of wins…I think South Carolina is going to be better, people forget about them.” [32:04])
Highlights several Heisman hopefuls, including LSU’s Garrett Nussmeier.

Memorable Quote & Closing Story

Closing with a poignant memory: “That golden Steve Gleason return…that’s one of the greatest moments in sports history, I think.” – Carville on the return to the Superdome after Katrina [33:27]

Tennis at the US Open: Chris Clary

[35:53–49:09]

US Open Impressions

Chris Clary joins to break down the opening of the US Open: No seismic early upsets, but plenty of “human condition” drama, from struggling stars to rising contenders.
“It feels to me like it’s kind of a human condition, like it often is in tennis…see people who are battling their doubts and their vulnerability.” – Clary [36:32]

Coco Gauff’s Tournaments & Stars Under Pressure

Observes Coco Gauff’s internal pressures despite her recent French Open title—she appears liberated, yet is battling expectations, tearing up after matches [36:32].
“To see Djokovic…with nothing left to prove…shouting, yelling at his box, trying to work through his inconsistencies at age 38…it’s very interesting for me.” – Clary [37:55]

Trends & Style Across Majors

Tony muses on the distinctiveness between US Open and Wimbledon (“The look of them is so different. The difference even in the clothing…the difference in the traditions…” – Tony [39:10])
Clary hails the sport’s versatility: “One of the great things about tennis…is the different surfaces—it’s one of tennis’s big strengths.” [39:59]

Fashion and Fun

Discussion on US Open’s wild fashion choices vs. Wimbledon’s white dress code, plus product placement mysteries (‘What is Y3?’ Adidas’s boutique brand) [41:47].
The duo jokes about Carlos Alcaraz’s new buzz cut: “That, to me, was so far the biggest news at the US Open.” [43:06]

Tennis Personality Clashes

Recaps a dramatic on-court confrontation between Taylor Townsend and Jelena Ostapenko over sportsmanship norms and “unwritten rules.” [43:59]
“She’s become like the baseball police…You violated the unwritten rules.” – Tony [45:23]

US Men’s Chances & The Charisma Factor

American men (Fritz, Paul, Tiafoe, Shelton) are all dangerous, but none are favorites. “Alcaraz, hair or no hair, and Sinner…are both playing so well…” – Clary [46:55]
On Ben Shelton: “He has a little bit of charisma to him. He does. He’s theatrical. You like him, right?” – Tony [47:47]
“Ben’s upside the next two or three years is probably the biggest of all the Americans…he’s exuberant. He’s like a big bear out there, just roaming around the court.” – Clary [48:41]

Memorable Quotes & Moments

“There’s nothing close to tailgating at LSU…what the shit they eat in Alabama? White barbecue crap.” – James Carville [24:05]
“You have to make the difficult decisions. It’s easy to sit yourself down…this is what captains do.” – Michael Wilbon on Keegan Bradley [10:28]
“Have you ever heard a Manning say a stupid thing?…There’s one word that describes it, and it’s Olivia.” – Carville [25:27]
“I actually like the NIL…when these kids were making nothing…” – Carville [31:04]
“It feels to me like it’s kind of a human condition, like it often is in tennis…see people who are battling their doubts and their vulnerability.” – Chris Clary [36:32]

Timestamps of Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------| | 01:28 | Tony on episode milestone and Nationals | | 02:29 | Schwarber’s four-home-run historic performance | | 06:09 | Micah Parsons trade analysis | | 07:56 | Ryder Cup captain’s picks discussion | | 14:18 | Golf story with Arch Campbell | | 17:12 | James Carville joins with “Midnight Special” | | 18:29 | Carville on LSU, college football’s cultural role | | 21:50 | SEC tailgating: the legend explained | | 25:27 | Carville on Manning family and Arch’s debut | | 31:04 | NIL and portal discussion | | 32:04 | Early pick: South Carolina wins over | | 33:27 | Katrina/Superdome “Steve Gleason return” memory | | 35:53 | Chris Clary segment and US Open first impressions | | 36:32 | Pressure on Gauff, Djokovic, and the mental game | | 43:06 | Alcaraz’s buzz cut: the story of the tourney | | 46:55 | American men’s outlook at the US Open | | 48:41 | Ben Shelton’s charisma |

Tone & Language

The episode is conversational yet insightful, full of Carville’s zingers (“White barbecue crap”), Tony’s nostalgic storytelling, and expert guest analysis. Overall, an enthusiastic, warm, and football-and-tennis-infused episode, perfect for diehard sports fans and cultural observers alike.

Summary

Celebrates college football’s return with James Carville, exploring deep Southern football culture and epic tailgating.
Discusses the future of college sports, NIL, and playoff expansion.
Reviews the US Open with Chris Clary, focusing on sports psychology, fashion, and the charisma of new tennis stars.
Chock-full of personal anecdotes, historical context, and memorable quotes, this episode encapsulates why “The Tony Kornheiser Show” is beloved by fans: it’s about far more than just sports.