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Tony Kornheiser
Hey, it's Tony. We have a packed show for you today. First, we'll chat with Greg Garcia about caddying for Nate Bargazzi at the celebrity tournament in Lake Tahoe. Then we'll talk about Yannick Sinner and IGA Witek winning at Wimbledon. And then we'll talk to Mark Feinsand about the Home Run Derby and the All Star break Totally loaded show. But first, commerce.
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Greg Garcia
Oh, hey.
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Michael Wilbon
Hey.
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Mark Feinsand
Thanks for meeting me here. It's just you're my only lawyer friend and I need your professional opinion. You see that brand new Hyundai Tucson out there? That's all I paid for it.
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Tony Kornheiser
Ah, let me get back to you on that deal.
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Nate Bargatze
So right it almost feels wrong.
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Nate Bargatze
My phone starts blowing up, Santa's out of control. He kept talking about me on the pod, on the broadcast there.
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Tony Kornheiser
That's wonderful. Think that. All right, let's get to the. Let's cut to the chase. How did A, how did Bargazzi do? And B, how did you do caddying for the first time in your life?
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Nate Bargatze
Yeah, so he did. He did. He ended pretty good. The first two days, he didn't play as well as he wanted to, but he played, you know, he played well. I mean, you know, there's people in that. In that thing that just go absolutely nuts and play great, and then there's people that just do terrible. And Nate was very middle of the road. I think he ended kind of right, you know, middle of the pack. And the third day, he played fantastic. The third day he played. Played really well. He was in the positive by a lot.
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Tony Kornheiser
How was the caddying experience?
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Nate Bargatze
It was unreal, Tony. I mean, you know, I tried to, you know, remember it all, you know, last night when I was getting ready to fly back, because it just so much happened. You know, we got there first, and I got my little bib on, and I'm just. I just don't want to, you know, mess up. So the first thing we do is we're on the range and. And he's hitting. And out of nowhere, now there's Sands. So Sands is there. I'm talking with him. We're talking for a long time. We're laughing. We're catching up. I turn around, Borghetzi's gone. His clubs are all on the ground. He's putting. He's on the putting green. I've completely failed the job in five minutes. I go find him. He goes, yeah. He goes, what are you, you know, are you having fun? You having a good time? So then. So then. So then we, you know, we hook up with our group, our group the first day, the dream group, Larry the Cable Guy and Charles Barkley. That's great. And I mean, not only is it the best, you know, the round is the best round Charles Barkley's ever played. So we're there for that Eagles number two place goes crazy. And of course, you know, when we're meeting everybody, Charles comes up, big smile on his face, you know, introducing himself to me, just the nicest guy. And if he wasn't going to be the nicest guy anyway, I say the words Tony Kornheiser and he loses his mind. You know, he's telling me, that guy teaches me how to be Jewish. I got my son in law, he teaches me, what's with all these holidays? And I mean, we're within two seconds you're best friends with Charles Barkley. But. And, and then like on hole one, he comes up to me because he's just the nicest guy. So, Greg, what do you do for a living? You know, and he wants to know about you and he wants to get to know you. And that was amazing. You know, we finished the first round and then they've got like, it's just wall to wall celebrities.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah.
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Nate Bargatze
You know, and so, you know, Nate's introduced me, I'm meeting, you know, Travis Kelsey, I'm getting some food next to Aaron Rodgers. And then I'm getting some food next to Aaron Rodgers and I go, hey, my son just got into Berkeley. And he goes, oh, that's great. It's great school. Congratulations. And then I walked away. And then I thought, wait, did Aaron Rodgers go to Berkeley?
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, for two years. He went for two years. You had that, right. You lucked out on that one randomly.
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Nate Bargatze
Okay. Thank God. So then, then you go after the round, you're exhausted. You carry a bag.
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Tony Kornheiser
By the way, how is carrying the bag? Is it harder than you thought?
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Nate Bargatze
Well, it was harder than I thought the first day because everybody else had the double strap backpack bag and Barghetzi's got one strap for me.
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Greg Garcia
Oh.
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Nate Bargatze
And so one of my. But he felt bad. Barclays caddy gave me a double strap for the next two days. It wasn't too bad. The carrying the bag wasn't bad, but nonetheless, you know, they have this like IV station where they'll pump you full of fluids afterwards. So Bargets springs for that. So we're both sitting there. I'm sitting across from Joe Theisman, who's telling stories about the 1983 skin the whole time.
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Tony Kornheiser
Wow.
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Nate Bargatze
It was. Yeah, it was just bizarre. That night we went out with Ray Romano and went to the casino and just. It was, it was a blast. So then we get our pairing for Saturday and it's Joe Buck and some MMA fighter named Justin Gaethje. And Joe Buck is amazing. He's fantastic. Gaethje is a lot of fun. Nate plays about the same. We end up negative 3, which is still not bad, you know, it's still not bad. We ended up FaceTime. Well, you FaceTime me, we were at lunch and you somehow butt dialed me.
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Tony Kornheiser
I don't know how that happened. My phone registered that you wanted to FaceTime with me. I don't do FaceTime. So I call and it's FaceTime. I'm talking with Greg, I'm talking with Bargot, see? And then Greg leans over and says, talk to this guy. And it's Ray Romano. And I go, whoa, what's that?
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Nate Bargatze
You know, so, yeah, by the way, I should mention too. So I get out there the first day, all the caddies, you know, everybody's. Everybody's so nice. A lot of caddies are their friends, real caddies.
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Tony Kornheiser
Oh, okay.
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Nate Bargatze
Not. It's a combination. Some are friends, but even the friends are like great golfers. Forgets. He's laughing, he goes, I'm out here getting my putts read by an 18 handicap. What am I, you know, what am I doing? But a lot of them are like guys that, like, are pros and people that just like, come and catty for these guys, you know, to really kind of help them. But. But we're, you know, we're just supposed to be anonymous on the course. We're just blending in. We're just trying to not be part of the problem at all, you know, and all, you know, and I'm out there and I'm getting lacheeseries all over the place. I got. I got bands of the podcast who have pictures printed out of my shows. I'm signing autographs.
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Tony Kornheiser
Great.
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Nate Bargatze
Oh, it was fantastic. So I don't know how to. I don't. I might used to sign in August. One guy hands me a Sharpie and he gives me a picture to sign. And I'm trying to get the cap off the Sharpie and I'm trying. I'm pulling, I'm pulling, I'm pulling, I'm pulling. Finally, he looks at me, he's holding the cap. He goes, I got the cap. I look at my hand, it's all black. I've just written all over my hand.
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Tony Kornheiser
That's funny. That's funny. You're a celebrity in a sense. You could play in this thing. Do you want to play in it?
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Nate Bargatze
Well, you know what I mean? I'm not enough of a celebrity ever, I don't think, to play unless. Unless the stand up career starts taking off. Yeah, I don't think so, but I did. I tell you what, if I ever get anywhere close, I had a fantastic conversation with the guy that NBC Sports, John Miller, who, you know, he created the Sports Machine, George Michael Sports.
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Tony Kornheiser
Oh, I didn't know that. Really?
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Nate Bargatze
Yeah. So we start talking about that and, you know, he lights up because that was such an innovative show. And I knew all about it from living there in Arlington and watching it growing up, before it even got syndicated, I guess. But, no, he was great. And so, yeah, I spoke to him on Sunday, so that was fun. And then our last day, we played with Trevor Lawrence and Colin Jost from snl, and again, it was just a dream threesome again, because they were just. Everybody was so nice, and we had such a. The caddies were all cool. And then they really put it together that last. He played great yesterday. He had two double bogeys, and that's when you get your negative points. But each time he had one of those, it was, you know, it was explainable. It was, you know, it's distracting the gallery. Everybody's yelling, which is fine. This is what they're there for. And you want to say hi to everybody and take pictures.
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Tony Kornheiser
Well, that must have been a comfortable thing for him, because he had performed with those people. He knew them, right?
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Michael Wilbon
Yes, yes.
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Nate Bargatze
And he, you know, and his fan. He loves his fans and everything, but you're playing golf and you're trying to be a host and be nice and whatever. It was funny. At the beginning of the day, we were at minus three, you know, and I said, I think Lawrence and Trevor Lawrence and Colin Jones might ended, like minus in the double digits or something like that. But we. I said to him, at the beginning of the day, I said, it's a seven. We're a positive seven at the end of the day. You know, I'm trying to be a good caddy. He says, all right. I go, now we got this positive seven into the deck. We're on our last hole, and we're positive eight. Oh, I looked at him, I said, and he hits the drive. I mean, smacks a drive. We're like 80 yards out, and we're walking to the bar, and I gotta tell you, you know, I told you we were gonna be positive 7 at the end of the day. He goes, yeah. I said, I didn't believe that for one second. I go, I gotta tell you, I thought there was no way ever we were going to be positive 7. And we're laughing about that. And then he gets. And he scolds it out of bounds, gets a double bogey. We ended up positive, positive six. He said, well, you were right.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah. Yeah. Was there anybody there? Was there any of the celebrities where you went, wow, that person is far nicer than I thought. I had no idea.
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Nate Bargatze
Well, everybody was nice. So it's hard to say. I mean, look, I didn't know what. I didn't know what Joe Buck was gonna be like. You know, I don't know. I just hear him on tv. I had no idea. And, you know, at the end of the round, we're exchanging numbers and he's going to come see me do stand up in St. Louis.
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Tony Kornheiser
He's.
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Greg Garcia
I mean, it's just.
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Tony Kornheiser
He's very pleasant. Joe Buck's very pleasant guy. Really is. He's very good at his job, too. He's very good.
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Nate Bargatze
I can't say. I can't say. Look, at one point, we're staying in this villa and we're in a hot tub and we're throwing a football back and forth to Ryan Fitzpatrick, who's in his hot tub next door. I mean, it's all like a fever dream. Yes, it's. Last night, my flight was delayed for four hours. I hung out in the airport with a wrestler named the Miz, the actor Michael Pena, Alfonso Rivera from the Fresh Fence, and Howie Ledbetter. And it's just. You're like, what is. And I said, to top it off, Tony, this was why I think maybe I live in a simulation. To top it off, I get on the plane, finally, I sit next to a young woman who was just coming from Reno from some party or something with her friends. I sat next to her. Her grandfather and two uncles were Mo, Curly and she.
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Tony Kornheiser
Get out of here. Really?
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Nate Bargatze
And she looked like Mo. I mean, there's not a good choice between the three, but it's unbelievable. She was, like, in her 20s. These are her great grandfathers or grandfathers. Yeah.
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Tony Kornheiser
Wow, that's amazing. The one thing I wonder about, like, when, like, you're a regular human being. Nate Bargazzi may be a pretty good golfer, but he's also a regular human being. And I don't mean that. I'm not saying regular in the tense of being a very successful comedian. No, he's a person. He's not a golfer. These people stand so close. Do you ever get worried, my God, he's going to hit him. He's going to. He's going to take a seven iron. He's going to hit him right in the head. They're too close.
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Nate Bargatze
You know, we didn't have people standing that close. I know what you're saying, but I think they know when to not stand so close. We were talking about that. Some guys who shouldn't be hitting it with such confidence near people are doing so. But they did keep them at Least our groups they knew. Keep them as far away as possible.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, it's just crazy. Look, it sounded like you had a wonderful time. I'm happy. I'm happy you had such a good time.
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Nate Bargatze
It was great for one thing. Thank you. Because I use your name as currency out there and it goes a long way, you know, and people are like, oh my God, your, your. Your life has gotten so amazing. You've had all these fun experiences and stuff, you know, since you've met Bargetzi. But I mean, on the other hand, when I met him, I was a showrunner and now I'm a bottom rung comedian and a caddy.
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Tony Kornheiser
All right, all right. Go to sleep. I'll talk to you.
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Nate Bargatze
Bye.
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Tony Kornheiser
Greg Garcia, boys and girls, we will take a break. Michael Wilbon will join us when we return. I'm Tony Kornheiser.
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Tony Kornheiser
This is sent to us by Matthew Vochell. This is a group called the Triad Collective and Matthew writes longtime little here and proud Bethesda Bagels devotee. Whenever I'm in D.C. visiting my Alma mater, George Mason, I've also spent more than a few afternoons lurking around the Safeway Deli counter wondering if I'll spot an old man yelling at the person behind the counter asking why he can't buy a carton with a paper check. I'm dating myself, but back in your Monday Night Football days, I almost got to meet you, but then I learned you were not flying at the time. Instead, I had the chance to meet your son Michael at Applebrook Golf Club just outside Philadelphia, along with Kyle Korver and Jaws and wow, are they tall. That's saying something given that I'm six three. Isn't that nice? He also says Buster should teach you how to milk a cow so you can make your own coffee ice cream. This is again the Triad Collective. This is a song called Sunday Morning. They're playing in Michael Wilbond for us and that you and I are going to take because we are guest loaded Today. You and I are going to talk about Wimbledon. I don't know that on Monday, even the Monday of a sort of dead thing like the All Star Game. I don't know that Monday. The lead story is Wimbledon. But the match yesterday, the men's match where all four sets went 6 4. That was a really good match between Alcaraz and Sinner. I have to say, Mike, I was a little bit surprised. I thought Alcaraz was low, you know, was unjustly seated at two and he should have been seated one ahead of Sinner, considering what happened at the French. But Sinner was great and better than I thought. What did you think, Sinners?
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Greg Garcia
That I want to play in the world. I mean, he, he did what he's supposed to do. And I thought this, as you know, at the time we talked about it at the beginning of the tournament, I thought the seating was fine. They're the two best players in the world.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, they are.
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Greg Garcia
I don't care who's 1 and 2. I just, you know, let's tee it up, get there, justify the seating, get there and play. And that's what they did. And I thought that, you know, if center is going to not just let Alcaraz bully him, he's going to come back and win after what happened in France. And good for center, that showed some guts, old fashioned guts. I don't care about the analytics of it. I don't care about first serves, I don't care about, you know, any individual thing to slice it up and try to describe what happened. This guy got humiliated is too strong. But I'm sure he was embarrassed by what happened in Paris. He came back and won. Yeah, that's what great players do. So. I know. So that to me was exactly the way that was supposed to go down.
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Tony Kornheiser
So there was a point, there was a point at 3, 4 in the eighth game of the fourth set where Alcaraz had a couple of break points and could not, could not do. I mean, that was. The match was over there because Sinner had not been vulnerable at all on his serve. That really felt like a turning point, didn't it?
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Greg Garcia
Yeah, yeah. Because I thought, okay, if we're going to see Alcaraz sort of establish any kind of, you know, control over this relationship, this rivalry right now, and these things can, you know, go. They got maybe 12 years of this coming.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah.
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Greg Garcia
Or more. If it's like Joker and Federer and Nadal, they got years of this coming. And so, yeah, in this particular span, you know, if Alcaraz does this again, then Senator's gonna have to go back to the drawing board. But he didn't. He didn't. He prevailed this time. And I don't know, we still don't have a big enough sample size to know if surface is going to really determine very much in this rivalry. It's just, this is just fun to watch, as I've said to you. I hope there's a third person who can join. Don't know if there is that right now it's just the two of them and we'll see if anybody else can sort of interrupt it. But it's. I just want to see him. I don't care about the seating. I don't care what the surface is. I hope to see it again in New York in a. In a little over a month. That would be. That would be fun.
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Tony Kornheiser
Again, they appear to be. I mean, there's a. You know, the men's draw has a lot of people, and you recognize a lot of names. These two appear to be by far the best two. And I don't know anybody else's name who's like 19 or 20 or 21 who seems to be on the verge of getting into this thing. Right?
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Greg Garcia
Well, yeah, but I don't. We didn't know Joker's name either.
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Tony Kornheiser
Okay.
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Greg Garcia
It was Federer in the doll.
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Tony Kornheiser
I mean, that's right.
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Greg Garcia
It's like. Like, you know, I. I've been thinking that, you know, the kid, his dad is Shelton. Lost.
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Tony Kornheiser
Shelton.
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Greg Garcia
Shelton. I was. I was gonna say Brian Shelton. Ben Shelton is. Has. Has the goods to be that guy. Well, he's gotta. He's got to do it. Yeah, he's gotta actually do it, but you don't have to do it today. It unfolds, and there's probably one or two people out there who may threaten and not make it, who may come up short. But, you know, I still think Shelton may have the goods to do it. Let's see what happens in New York. But, yeah, this is. This is. I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to guess the ending. I don't need to. I want to watch the unfolding of it all.
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Tony Kornheiser
That seems fair.
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Greg Garcia
We're seeing those two now, and we'll see if somebody can join them. I hope. I hope so. It won't be bad if nobody joins them, if it's their rivalry and it's the two of them. But it seems intense when you do have sort of a small group at the top of the pyramid. It's more fun.
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Tony Kornheiser
The women's match was. Was hard.
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Greg Garcia
Not even words. I didn't watch it, and I'm. I found out what happened. I didn't go back and look at it.
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Tony Kornheiser
Love in love. And Ana Samoa is crying at the end, and I understand that, and I'm sure she feels terrible that she didn't put up a better showing. But it seemed to me, Mike, I mean, if I were writing the long piece here. If I were writing a long piece, I'd say, boy, it was hard to beat Sabalenka. Like, that match takes Everything out of you. Because she is an incredibly powerful player, and you beat her and had nothing left. It seemed. That's what it seemed to me.
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Greg Garcia
I don't know that she's that good, though. Like, I don't know if she's good enough for me. To.
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Tony Kornheiser
Anisimova.
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Greg Garcia
Yeah, yeah. To make that link that. Could not hear you. I hear you. And that. That's very possibly what happened. I don't know. As I look at the field, there's. I said this at the beginning. I mean, I thought there were. They're not eight men who could, who could win Wimbledon. They're just. They're not. There are eight women who could have.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yes, I agree with that. And the eighth seat won it. Yeah. I mean, the seats went out so early in Wimbledon, like 2, 3, 4, 5.
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Greg Garcia
Because nobody's that much better than the best players. There's. There's that group of them. People went crazy because Coco got flocked. Coco, golf is really good. She's won a couple of Slam, you know, she's won a couple. She's 21. She's not gonna win them all. This is. Everybody wants to find Serena. That's. No, that, that's, that chapter that's closed. Well, Fiontech has attention to this one.
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Tony Kornheiser
Phion has six, and on all three.
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Greg Garcia
Surfaces, she does have six, but we don't. I mean, is she gonna get 12? No.
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Michael Wilbon
No.
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Greg Garcia
10? I don't. I don't know either. I don't know that she's good enough to do that. She's really, really, really great. She's. She's great. Is she a dominant player? I, I, I'm not using that word. Okay.
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Tony Kornheiser
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Greg Garcia
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah. 18 today.
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Greg Garcia
Yeah, 18. 18. 18 years old.
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Tony Kornheiser
Right.
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Greg Garcia
The greatest thing out there. I mean, when I say great, I just mean when he's out there, your eyes cannot move from him. I mean, there was a. I forget which term now. Maybe it was Champions League, where he's playing and he did not score a goal in the game, and they lost. And yet every he. There were three or four chances he created and three or four shots he took. And I remember the first time I saw him and I might see him in person. I might have been with Matthew when we, we would. I think we were in London, and I was just like, who's that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That. He's. He's supposed to be the best. And he was 16. And there's a kid. There's a kid. Oh, there's a 16 year old on Mexico who played against the US last week. And you watch him. You go, whoa, don't, don't. See, don't. Don't tell me about what the US has and how confident are you in America's chances? Shut up. Shut up, okay? Because there are people there. There are kids in the world who are not 20. And he's it. Yeah, I mean. I mean, Jamal, Tony, it doesn't. I don't care. I don't need to define him by some other sport. I just want to watch him play his sport. Look, Mbappe still. Mbappe is what, 25? And mbappe is still one of the greatest players in the world in any sport to watch. And Mbappe ain't this kid.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah. This kid set every record in the world in terms of being the youngest to play in the matches, to have an assist in the matches, to have a goal in the matches in Champions League and this and that. And his team, you know, the Spanish team, they won Champions League, right? I mean, their. Their team won, and he was at the middle of it, and I know you love him. Were you surprised at all? I mean, I asked this because I just don't know that Paris St. Germain lost yesterday and got drubbed three nothing.
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Greg Garcia
Well, yeah, because they've been winning it. They look like they're gonna win everything.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, yeah.
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Greg Garcia
Yes. Yeah. I was surprised, and I didn't watch that much of it. I think when I turned on, it was one, nothing, and quickly two, and I was like, whoa. Not that you can't bounce back, but I was just surprised the way PSG has been playing in Champions League and in this club tournament, that Club World cup, that they were on the wrong side of that. And I have to look. My curiosity about international soccer has changed. My curiosity doesn't mean I know anything. I just. I now appreciate watching. I want to watch. I want to see the best players in the world play. And I'm sorry if people are offended that I'm not talking about mls. I want to see the best players in the world play. So that means right now, you're watching psg and you can see everything. You can see everything. Just as you can see. You can see PSG as regularly as you can see North Carolina basketball or Duke basketball. So there's no. There's no. There's no sense of, oh, I would watch them, but they play in parallel. What they Play on your tv.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, you can get them.
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Michael Wilbon
You can get them if you want.
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Greg Garcia
Every game you may have to get.
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Tony Kornheiser
Up early, but you can get them.
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Greg Garcia
You have to get right. And so I want to see them play. I want to see Leming play. I do. And then, and then I will talk to people who can explain to me what it means, what it, what it meant, what that game meant, what it means going forward, what we're watching now with less than a year to go before the World Cup.
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Tony Kornheiser
All right, one other thing. Your Cubs survived. The Nationals didn't help them at all because they got blitzed by Milwaukee because they stink. But your Cubs go into the All Star Game in first place. That may not be the biggest surprise, but it's a pretty big surprise, is it not?
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Nate Bargatze
Yeah.
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Greg Garcia
You know, as I look around, I don't know that there are that many other surprises. Other people are doing what we probably figured. I knew the Cubs would be better. I didn't necessarily know they could hold on to first place for almost the entire first half of the season in the division with the brewers and the Cardinals. And the Reds are pretty good too. And the Pirates, of course, have pitching, but you can't hit a lick. No, but, yeah, I mean, it's pleasant, it's fun, it's nerve wracking. They went into Yankee Stadium and took two out of three and, and Imanaga is an ace. He's an ace. I mean, he's coming back off his hamstring. That made him miss seven weeks. But he went in the Yankee Stadium and held him. I mean, I know Stanton hit a home run. He held. He held them otherwise to nothing. They got two hits off of him. And so we needed. We need a trade. We needed. We need another starting pitcher. And I don't know, I mean, the National League has got a lot of good teams, like I said, in the division. And the brewers roll through people.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah.
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Greg Garcia
And they're. They got a guy that when you go out there every. Whatever it is now, fifth or sixth day, because that's what happens with starting pitching now. And you can try the 22 year old out there who can throw a 102 and go against schemes or if it's interleagued school and hold his own and they got to put him on the All Star team because he's so damn good.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, he's this year's Skins. Misterowski is this year's Skins.
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Greg Garcia
And so to have the two of them, we got to play against both of them.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah. Yeah.
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Greg Garcia
But The Cubs, they give it to you every night. The Cubs have the biggest run differential in baseball. That's a surprise.
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Tony Kornheiser
Spend a lot of money on a manager. Seems worth it.
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Greg Garcia
Every penny of it seems worth it.
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Tony Kornheiser
Great Council. Seems worth it.
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Greg Garcia
Exactly.
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Tony Kornheiser
All right, I'll talk to you later.
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Greg Garcia
All right, Tone.
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Tony Kornheiser
This is the Tony Korneiser Show. Once again, this is the Triad. All these songs are sent to us By Matthew Vochell. This is their new album, Uncharted Dreams. I know it's not quite the usual bumper fare. It's no Dan Byrne or Joe Arrow here, but I figured, what would Tony do? Probably complain, but still, I'm taking my shot. Worst case, it ends up in the bin with the stories about paper checks and salad bars. If you're ever looking to mix up the music, I'd be honored if you gave any of my tracks a spin. Happy to do it. The Triad Collective. Michael, if independent artists like the Triad Collective want to send in their original music, how do they do?
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Tony Kornheiser
Is called One in a Million. And it plays in Mark Feinstein. And we need to do this because we're now at the All Star break. And Wilbon was so, so angry over the weekend, Mark. So angry because the Nationals stink and just gave up game after game after game to Milwaukee. Milwaukee was trying to catch the Cubs. Wilbon was, was convinced that the Yankees would beat the Cubs, but in fact, that did not happen. And the Cubs go into the All Star break as, as the front runner in a very difficult division, obviously with St. Louis and with Milwaukee. Which leads me to the first question I've got, as we're in the All Star break a little more than halfway through the season. But in the All Star break, what is the biggest surprise to you?
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Michael Wilbon
I would say the fact that the tigers have an 11 and a half game lead. You know, I thought Detroit was going to be good. AJ Hinch has got that team believing in itself. And, you know, they certainly have a lot of talent, a lot of young talent. But, you know, they, they tried to sign Alex Bregman this offseason. That was a guy who they were really hoping, you know, that that would be sort of the final piece of their puzzle. And they didn't. And it was, you know, they had Derek Scuba. We knew what he, what he means to that team and how good he is. But they didn't, you know, they made the playoffs last year and they didn't like make that big signing or really do that, right, that big thing. And you know, you're like, all right, well, let's see how good they can be. Javier Baez was a guy. We were talking in spring training about them, you know, when are they going to release this guy? And now he's starting in the All Star Games tonight. You know, Riley Greene is taking the big step forward. Spencer Torkelson has finally figured it out and he's got 21 home runs at the break. So, you know, we looked at the teams like Cleveland, Kansas City said, this is going to be a really good division. It's going to be really tight. Raise Minnesota, there's everybody but the White Sox could win this division. And here we are at the break, and the Tigers have the biggest lead of any division leader in baseball at 11 and a half games.
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Tony Kornheiser
And this is surprising because they didn't sign a big so. Because they don't have marquee names and that we look at. In other words, you look at Atlanta and they've got Acuna, and you look at the Yankees and they've got Judge, and there's nobody with the Tigers. But isn't that sort of how Houston started when Hinch was there?
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Michael Wilbon
Yeah, except that their guys went. By the time that Houston started winning, everybody knew who Jose was, everybody knew who, you know, George Springer and Alex Bregman came up and they had, you know, that when they won in the first time, Justin Verlander was there and, you know, it was. They became household names. They made the playoffs as a wild card in 15. They went in the Yankee Stadium. Dallas Kaikal beat the Yankees in Yankee Stadium. And you could see what was coming with Houston. And also Houston had, you know, obviously gone through that terrible rebuild, you know, the tanking and all that. So you knew some of the names. Carlos Correa was the number one pick overall.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah.
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Michael Wilbon
Detroit, you know, sort of came out of nowhere to make the playoffs last year.
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Tony Kornheiser
That's right. After being a seller at the. At the All Star break.
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Michael Wilbon
Right, right. They traded Jack Flaherty, who they then went out and resigned for this year. So I guess was him and Glaber Torres were probably their, their two biggest signings and both are having outstanding years. But, you know, if you look at most of the teams that are leading their divisions, they've got one or two of those guys you just mentioned.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yes, right.
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Michael Wilbon
Like the Blue Jays have. Laddie, you know, the Astros have, you know, some, some big names. We, we all know, you know, the Dodgers, the Phillies. The Tigers are going to start three players in the All Star Games tonight that I don't think anybody would have predicted we're going to be starting in the All Star Game.
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Tony Kornheiser
I agree with that. What is. I'm going to anticipate, you might say the Orioles, but I don't know that you will. What's the biggest surprise the other way, the team that is the most disappointing is that the Orioles.
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Nate Bargatze
Well, as I, well, as I told.
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Michael Wilbon
You earlier this season, I think the Orioles to be in the World Series. So I'm certainly going to say it's the Orioles, right. I expected much better from them. They're still not quite dead, but they're dead. I mean, seven and a half games out. We've seen teams come back from seven and a half games in a playoff race much later than this in a season. But the problem is when you look at the American League and the wild card race, which is the only race that they're even remotely still in, they're, they're 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, they're the 10th team in the wild card race. So even if they go on a run here, you got to hope that, you know, seven teams ahead of you all stumble at the same time. When you're nine games under.500, it's hard to really consider yourself a contender. So, yeah, I think, I think the Orioles and that was another team that you looked at in the off season and said, why aren't they signing a pitcher? They have all this great young hitting talent and some of that young hitting talent has failed them this year, no question about it. And it's not just the lack of pitching because ironically, when they do decide to sell, they've got some starting pitchers who are going to bring some stuff back to them. Charlie Morton, who they signed this offseason to a one year deal and was removed from the rotation in April because he was just terrible and people were talking about him maybe retiring early. He's been one of the best pitchers in the game since he got back in the rotation in May with like a two and a half era at age 41. You know, Zach Eflin's got some playoff experience. He's going to be back from the IL soon. He could get traded. Sugano, the Japanese guy they signed, he could get traded. So, you know, it's ironic that pitching is going to be something that they have to shop at the deadline when the pitching is what failed them early. But I think when you just look overall, some of the young guys that they expected to be sort of staples of this lineup just haven't quite worked out this year.
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Tony Kornheiser
We're going to see Paul Skeens start the All Star Game for the second year in a row. He is a phenomenal pitching talent and he's playing on a team that never scores any runs for him. Just, they just don't. It's reminiscent to me of Garrett Cole, who was also, I think, the number One overall draft pick went to Pittsburgh and basically couldn't wait to get out. Is that what we're looking at with Skeens?
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Michael Wilbon
Yeah, probably. I mean, you look at a guy who's as talented as any pitcher in the league, came in as a rookie and started the All Star game after like 12 starts. Now 23 years old, go start a second All Star Game. I mean, he's got a career ERA through 43 starts in the big leagues of 1.98. Pretty good. So, yeah, I mean, I think there was a lot of chatter earlier this year about should the Pirates trade schemes. And Ben Sherrington, their GM came out right away and said all simmer down, we're not trading Cole Skenes. That said, they need to make some trades or do something to get some offense. And if it's not going to be spending money in free agency, which doesn't appear that it will be. They've got a deep collection of young starting pitchers who are not named Paul Skeens led by Mitch Keller, who is signed to a pretty team friendly contract who you need to make some serious thoughts about trading Keller or somebody else to get some bats in there because if you have any hope, if you decide, all right, we're going to spend on skiings in four years when he's a free agent, he's going to be the guy we finally, we're going to, we're going to do whatever it takes. Well, if you don't have any hitters there to score him some runs, you could pay that guy a billion dollars.
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Tony Kornheiser
Not going to matter.
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Michael Wilbon
He's going to say I'm going to take somebody else's money, help me win some games. So you know, it's, it's got to be very frustrating for him. It reminds me the two pictures that come to mind when I think about Skins situation aren't Garrett Cole from his Pittsburgh days, it's Felix Hernandez from his Seattle days and Jacob deGrom when he was with the Mets. And both of those guys won the Cy Young Award with remarkably low win totals, historically low win totals for that award because their seasons were so dominant. But deGrom would lose one nothing or two one every five days. And you know, Skeens is in that situation where it's 4 and 8 despite leading the league in era and having the highest war of any player in the National League. So yeah, I think it's, it's good to see him on big national stages because we're not going to see him on one of those in October.
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Tony Kornheiser
Wilbourne doesn't like the Home Run Derby. I do like the Home Run Derby. Wilbon says it's like the dunk contest. I don't think it's like the dunk contest. Do you like the Home Run Derby?
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Michael Wilbon
I love the Home Run Derby and it's one of my favorite events to go to every year. The crowd gets so into it. The crowd actually gets probably more into the Home Run Derby than they get into the All Star Game because people.
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Greg Garcia
Are just, you know, chicks dig the.
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Michael Wilbon
Long ball was the old saying. Everybody digs a long ball. It's. It's fun, it's exciting. They've, they've made some changes to it that I think have really helped the event. The, the shorter timed rounds as opposed to the take as many swings or take as many pitches as you can until you get to 10 outs. It moves with a better pace. And I think the biggest difference between the dunk contest and the Home Run Derby is that we've heard of most of the people in the Home Run Derby.
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Tony Kornheiser
That's right.
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Michael Wilbon
And the, and the dunk contest has.
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Tony Kornheiser
Become the second round pick out of Houston. Nobody knows who they are.
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Michael Wilbon
I mean, hasn't the guy in the G League won the dunk?
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, yeah. Mac McClungs won it 15 times. Yeah.
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Michael Wilbon
So, you know, I think the fact that, you know, that you go to the Home Run Derby and look, do I wish that the Home Run Derby every year was still, you know, Aaron Judge, Shohei Otani and Juan Soto. Yeah, that'd be great. You still get some of those guys in there sometimes. This is maybe one of the more anonymous fields in terms of that. That we've had. And yet you still have Cal Raleigh, who's got 38 home runs this year, James Wood, who's been one of the top young players in the league this year. O' Neill Cruz, who has certainly been a big name. Josh Chisholm Jr. Is, you know, a star in New York who's really, you know, sort of finally getting some national recognition for his play. He's the All Star Game this year. You know, Matt Olson is going to be the big hometown favorite. So, yeah, there's no Aaron Judge and Johan Ohtani, but, but we've seen those guys in it, right? Aaron Jones has won the Home Run Derby. Giancarlo Stanton's won the Home Run Derby. Ohtani. So, you know, I think I still love the Derby. I still think it's a really fun night.
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Tony Kornheiser
Let me go to the local interest for me, the Washington Nationals, Terry they stink. I'm not going to talk about the team. I'm going to talk about the draft pick. It seems it's being cast as somewhat of a surprise that they took a shortstop but not the Holiday kid. They took another kid, a high school kid from Oklahoma named Willits. Your thoughts on that?
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Michael Wilbon
Yeah, I mean, it was surprising to some extent. The, you know, Mike DeBartolo said he was the guy they wanted all along.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah.
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Michael Wilbon
You wonder, you know, look, their scouts obviously saw Holiday. They saw everybody. They knew what they were looking at.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah. They had the number one pick. They did some research. Yeah.
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Michael Wilbon
Now, now will it who's a sec also a second generation big leaguer. His father Reggie played in the majors. He was a Yankees coach for a number of years. He was a projected top five pick. So this isn't like they went crazy off the board. And unlike football and basketball, where, you know, the number one pick is usually a pretty obvious situation, baseball a lot of times ends up being beauty in the eye of the beholder. And the, the prognosticators, the mock drafters, all that can think they know what's going on, but you don't really know. Especially when there's a regime change a week before the draft and somebody's making the pick who wasn't going to be making the pick 10 days ago. I spoke to some people last night. I was at the draft. Will, it's people like him. People think he's going to be a very good player. He's also 17 years old. So how do you know? I mean, again with, with basketball, with football, you see a guy get drafted one overall and you're expecting him to star for your team that season.
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Tony Kornheiser
That's right.
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Michael Wilbon
That, that's not the case here. There have been some recent situations where you've seen a guy get drafted and be in the big league the next year, but usually that guy's a college kid, not, not a 17 year old. So.
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Tony Kornheiser
No.
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Michael Wilbon
15 of the first 32 picks last night were shortstops and most of them are out of high school, which is pretty fascinating. It's, it's.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, but your best athlete, your best baseball player, athlete in high school, pitches and play shortstop.
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Michael Wilbon
That's correct.
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Tony Kornheiser
That's. So that's reasonable, I think.
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Michael Wilbon
You know, I think Will, it's, you know, if you ask me right now, who's got a better career, Willis or Ethan Holiday, I have no idea. I mean, it's, it's. To me, you just have to now see how it plays out. You know, the Angels Took a guy number two who was projected to go like somewhere between 15 and 20. Now that was surprising. That was one where everybody went, huh?
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Greg Garcia
Really?
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Michael Wilbon
It was a kid named Tyler Bremner who's a right hander out of Santa Barbara. He was ranked 18th on MLB Pipeline's list of draft prospects and he went 2 overall. And so again, you know, you look at something like that and you're like, whoa, what? You know, I was at the draft last night and everybody sort of looked at each other like, really? Because the kid, Kate Anderson from, from lsu, who just won the World Series mvp, College World Series mvp, everybody thought he was going one or two and Holiday was going to be the other one. Here we are three and neither of them had gotten picked.
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Tony Kornheiser
So why would you pick a pitcher out of lsu? Why? I mean, you think you'll be Paul Skeens? Really? Yeah, I would.
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Greg Garcia
I would.
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Tony Kornheiser
Okay, so you don't, you don't think will.
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Michael Wilbon
It's 130 pitch shutout in the final game of the College World Series. So that was a nice final audition for the draft.
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Tony Kornheiser
So we shouldn't despair over Will. It's Will. It was a high ranking choice to begin with. So. Okay.
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Michael Wilbon
Oh, absolutely.
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Tony Kornheiser
Good.
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Michael Wilbon
Absolutely.
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Tony Kornheiser
I feel better. I thank you. Thank you, Mark. Thank you. Thank you.
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Nate Bargatze
Thanks, Cody.
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Tony Kornheiser
All right, Mark Feinstein, boys and girls. We will come back with email and jingle. I'm Tony Kornheiser.
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Tony Kornheiser
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Tony Kornheiser
And before we get to the mailbag, let me just say I am a lineman for the county and I drive the main road searching in the sun for another overload. I hear you singing in the wire I can hear you through the wine and the Wichita Lineman is still on the line. That was played and sung by Glenn Campbell 50 years ago. @ least maybe more than that. It was written by Jim Webb. Wichita Lineman. It is a great song. Yes, it's a great song. Same guy who wrote MacArthur Park. Thanks to our guests today, Michael Wilbon, Greg Garcia and Mark Fine Sand. Thanks as well to today's sponsors. Remember, you can listen to us on Apple Podcast, Spotify and Odyssey of get show through Apple. Please leave us a review. This is from Phil Coleman in Tucson, Arizona, who is the official Euphonium Mist of the show. Euphony Euphonium Phoneme. Oh yes. Yeah. On Tuesday, July 15th. So that's tomorrow. The inaugural Push Ridge Christian Academy Community Summer Band will be performing a free concert at 7pm it's free at the Catalina Foothills Church in Tucson. Conducted by yours truly, Phil Coleman. Our humble little ensemble will perform arrangements of patriotic and movie music to relieve the nostalgia of summer relive rather the nostalgia of summer concerts of old. Donations are appreciated. 100% of the donations will help lower the cost of our annual band trip. For any of my students who cannot afford to go, any Littles in the Tucson area are welcome to attend. Just avoid the TK salutes until after the concert is over. Please tell JJ Bigelow to eat it. So I wanted to get that in also. My birthday was yesterday. A lot of people know this. I was not happy. It's a very large number. I played poorly. I was just not happy.
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Tony Kornheiser
I didn't finish 18. We were blown off the course at 17 with.
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Tony Kornheiser
With storm. It wasn't actually a storm at the time. But you know, nothing worked yesterday except dinner. Michael cooked dinner. I got to see the children. And of course, as people know, the second one, Henry the Hammer, shares a birthday with me.
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Tony Kornheiser
And made sure that although on Saturday I was allowed to sit in the birthday boy chair, on Sunday, I was not. It was Henry's chair and. And deservedly so.
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Greg Garcia
Right?
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Tony Kornheiser
And you did great job. That bread was great.
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Tony Kornheiser
Still works.
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Tony Kornheiser
Still works. Happy birthday, Tony, and many more. Sunday is also my best friend Richie Katz's mother's 104th birthday she is not unburdened by memory and is celebrating at Peter Luger's on Long island with her family, eating steak and drinking Jack Daniels. Also, Chris Goderup, who I met at the Cognizant, won the Scottish Open. I told Tony about this kid a while ago and he really ran down Rory. I hope you had a great day. I did.
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Commercial Voice
DG need the thick, thick cut bacon.
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Tony Kornheiser
Oh, absolutely. Jolene Wojcick, the Littles look forward to hearing the recap of your golf game. I stunk. I mean, I'm afraid that this is the.
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Commercial Voice
Give us the lowlights.
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Tony Kornheiser
I just. I got an 8 or a 9 on a couple of holes. I just was rushing everything. I had no swing. I was no good. I was no good. I had stuff rolling around in my head. If you golf on Mother's Day and Father's Day, surely you golf on your birthday. Yeah, I did. I just was lousy at it. Had a couple of pars, but only a couple. Not. Not very good at all. Michael Beranek in Akron, Ohio, wishing you a very happy birthday. Grandpa. Still waiting for your birthday phone call. Okay. And Paul Gorman in Essex, Maryland. Just a reminder, old sport, you do not have a monopoly on July 13th birthdays. What time should my daughter expect to call? Yeah. Matt Helfrich is July 13th. There's a little. I know some people. I played golf just by chance with a guy named Grant on Saturday who said his birthday was July 13, and I didn't even tell him it was mine, too. I let that go. The moment seeped into the ether. Yeah. Bob Flint, Springfield, Vermont. Longtime Little here, whose girlfriend, the lovely Ali, is also a little. The lovely Ali has listened with great concern about the ongoing gardening adventures of Mr. Tony. When we were listening to the Friday episode, she sadly shook her head when Tony and Michael were describing the inactivity with the zucchini plants in front of the house. They're male, she whispered. Basically. In her opinion, if the zucchini seeds have been planted in close proximity to the zucchini plants, there would have been cross pollination plant magic and thus zucchini palooza. I know she also has some concerns about the potatoes as well, but we're hoping for the best. The lovely Ally is the manager of the Springfield, Vermont Food Co Op and humbly wonders if she could be the official co op manager of the show. Sure, she would happily offer her plant and organic expertise. Well, that's what we need. Michael, you have found something out about pollination, right? Well, you said it the other day.
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Commercial Voice
I mean, I mentioned this to you last week. I've had this before. It's brutal watching the, you know, watching the flowers turn into nothing.
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Tony Kornheiser
Nothing. The ones on the side of the house, Nothing. The ones on the other side of the house, Voluminous. Voluminous. Zach Lerner, Chevy Chase, Maryland. I'm not a botanist, I'm not a doctor. I didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. But I do have insight into your zucchini problem. You see, my wife, who was begrudgingly forced to overhear the show while I do the dishes, clean the living room, brush my teeth and shower, caught Friday's discussion about the zucchini plant that bloomed but bore no fruit. In a rare moment, the woman to whom I'm related by marriage actually acknowledged that she both hears and understands the words coming from the bald, orange man she usually refers to earnestly as Kornhauser. And she had the answer. Now she's not a botanist either, but just the day before, she was at the home of a friend with the exact same problem. Glorious zucchini flowers 0 zucchini the culprit as Michael correctly noted, lack of pollination. Male flowers usually arrive first. They have one job, and it isn't to look pretty. They exist solely to serve the later blooming female flowers. If your plant still has female flowers, look for a tiny zucchini shaped ovary behind the bloom. There's hope. You can wait for bee traffic to pick up or maybe give the bees a boost next year with some pollinator friendly flowers. Or which I tried. I planted this year. I'd eaten the rabbits, ate them asters and black Eyed Susans and they never came up. They came up. They got eaten. Or if you really want to take matters into your own hands, you can try manual pollination. That certainly sounds like an intern task to me. What a perfect thing to add to a resume. Or as the case may be to incorporate into a standup routine. Thank you for the years of entertainment and joy and in this moment, for giving me and my wife a moment of shared understanding around my podcast.
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Commercial Voice
The best is you don't even like zucchini.
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Tony Kornheiser
I don't. But you do.
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Nate Bargatze
Oh yeah.
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Tony Kornheiser
And the boys do.
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Nate Bargatze
Yes.
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Tony Kornheiser
I don't. No, I don't care. Well, zucchini is okay. Summer squash is not my favorite.
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Commercial Voice
Like grilled zucchini.
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Tony Kornheiser
You like? Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. Adam McCaslin and Mattoon, Illinois. Mr. Tony grew an Itsy bitsy teeny Winnie yellow polka dot zucchini Patrick McHugh in Astoria in Queens, listening to Friday's show, I finally had my David Aldrich moment. At the end of the show, you read an email from Brother Guy Consolamagno, and I said out loud to no one in particular, I know that Guy. Indeed, Brother Guy was a visiting professor at my undergraduate alma mater, Lemoyne College, a small Jesuit liberal arts College in Syracuse, New York. In the fall of 2010, he taught a fabulously interesting course on the cosmology of the universe and how scientific understanding need not be at odds with religious faith. I distinctly recall emerging the class to not simply attribute to God things that science doesn't currently understand, what he dubbed the God of the gaps theory. Anyway, I felt remarkably privileged to be able to take a course a class like that taught by hello, the Vatican's astronomer. On top of that, the course fulfilled both a needed religion and science credit that I was lacking. Not too shabby. Such a pleasure to hear from Brother Guy. And what a surprise to discover he's little the connective tissue of this thing.
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Commercial Voice
And Noah, our man from NASA, also texted me and said knows him well.
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Tony Kornheiser
Knows. Yes, of course, yeah. From Father Aaron Waldick, Kansas City I'm a Catholic priest of one year in Kansas. I grew up watching pti, became a loyal listener of the podcast around pandemic time. I studied in St. Louis, Missouri for seven years, and during the long years of seminary studies, the podcast was always a welcome break to turn my mind off. Take it easy. Had the chance to introduce my friend Father Timothy to your podcast last year when your pure, unfiltered, vitriolic and acrimonious words about two football teams made me laugh out loud in the middle of the seminary, much to the amusement of my brethren. The jets and Giants stink, you declared. I had to show Father Timothy, and we were in tears at how your words pierced through the speakers. Thanks for so many laughs. If you're ever in Kansas City, I'd be happy to drive you by the golf course where Patrick Mahomes lives, pointed out, and then drive over to local muni where I can actually get on to play. Brother Guy's email from Vatican City inspired me to mail you and hope to see send more in the future. Please also tell my great friend Father Timothy to eat it if the Tony Kornizer show lacks an official Catholic priest. I'll send my resume. You don't have to. You got it, John Fast John Fitzpatrick, Arvada, Colorado now your Should I eat Chessy's boiled chicken dilemma reminds me of a terrific real life Cold War episode that I live through early in my career at a certain agency that shall not be named. In 1985, dubbed the year of the Spy for all its historic skullduggery, an angst KGB colonel named Vitaly Yurchenko had defected to the United States. 22 year old yours truly was among the crew guarding him at a safe house afflicted by an ulcer. His Soviet doctor had prescribed a bland diet of boiled chicken and boiled tongue, which he stuck to religiously. He fashioned himself a chef of sorts and would boil the chicken in the safe house kitchen, reserving the water he boiled it in and calling it soup. To this day, as I boil chicken for my own dogs from time to time I recall this episode with a mix of nostalgia and revulsion. My advice? Find a cannoli and leave the chicken for Chessy. And in case anyone wants to hear more about Vitaly Yurchenko's adventures in the US including his extraordinary return to the ussr, check out Julie Cohn's the Redefector wherever you get your podcast. What it lacks in jingles, it makes up for in a story worthy of a sequel to the Americas. So I'd like to hear that. Jeff Paddock Canandaigua, N.Y. you often speak your admiration for Rod Laver. I share your feelings. In the spring of 1974, my junior year in high school, labor played Bjorn Borg in an exhibition match at Elmira College. That's in upstate New York. I believe it was to celebrate the opening of the college's Murray Athletic Center. Referred to locally as the Golden Domes, the facility is in a series of three geodesic dome structures with a gold finish. Borg won the match. I mainly remember just how fast things move. TV doesn't seem to do it justice. Afterwards I was able to get Labor's autograph on the simple one page event. Program didn't bother to get Borg's. At the time he seemed to be just a bushy haired kid with a kind of funny name and a headband. Unfortunate since he won the French later that year for his first of 11 majors. I still have great memories of the event. Haven't seen pro tennis in person since. A program copy of the program is attached. Yeah, with Rod Laver's.
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Commercial Voice
How about that?
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Tony Kornheiser
Wow, that's great. And this was Borg at 17. Not quite great yet. Mark Elliott in Prospect, Kentucky. I bet it was a hard decision with a lot of mixed feeling and wonderful memories. The day you traded in the Stutts Bearcat for the Ed Song that's funny. And Tim, in the Midwest my family are driving from Chicago to Canton, Ohio next week. Any chance I could get an update on construction and traffic in the area? Get on your bike tonight. Everyone, as always, do wear white. So I'm on a first tee. What am I giving the driver? He hauls off and wax one big hitter dilemma long into a 10,000 foot crevice right at the base of this glacier.
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Commercial Voice
Stay light no more gas tanks for the skies are mad no downstreams to unright we can't get away that's right now chasing sunsets we don't know how 200 miles into in the backseat case us freedom stretches without the walls we can't get away let's run right now Jesus we don't know how.
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Greg Garcia
No more.
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Commercial Voice
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Nate Bargatze
Right now.
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Commercial Voice
Chasing sunse we don't know how sam.
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Nate Bargatze
Sa.
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Commercial Voice
Found a spark in the darkest.
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Tony Kornheiser
Rain.
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Commercial Voice
Feeling light I can't explain Touching nights what words can't say Took the night and turned day each word you say a sacred vow you're my forever here now love is one in a million there's no fire so bright can't grow cold I found my star, my first blood One in a million.
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Nate Bargatze
Now.
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Commercial Voice
I know I search the skies it fills the air Melody beyond compare.
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Nate Bargatze
Each.
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Commercial Voice
Word I say a sacred vow you're my forever Here and now I search the skies, seas, sands to find love within my hand My composting love I need to like this Now I know.