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Hey, it's Tony. On today's show, we'll talk to Jason Locke and for about John Harbaugh moving to the New York Giants. Also about what he expects to see in the playoff games this weekend. Plus, James Carville and Jeff Ma will call in with their weekly picks. But first, let's do some commerce. Previously on the Tony Kornheiser Show.
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You know, I think his Holiness cares a lot more about the White Sox.
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Anything. Yeah, I do. White Sox fan.
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Is that the Pope?
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As American sports fan, you know, there's.
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A lot of weird stuff happened in.
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2025 that's the best story of 2020. I love this guy. I love his obsession with baseball. And every time he interacts on sports, it makes me smile.
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We've got the Pope. Yeah, we've got the Pope caring about football.
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Take that, Rome.
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The Tony Kornheiser show is on now. We are reunited, the three of us in the studio.
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I'm back.
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Michael was gone. Michael had jury duty. Do you want to tell us how it went?
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Sure.
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So for those of you who do not live in the D.C. area, you get called for jury duty here about every two years. You get the notice about two months in advance, and then the week of, you get another reminder. Then the night before you call in. And I would say half the time that this has happened to me, I get the automated message that you're, you know, you are not required to show up. And then sometimes you are, and you have to report by 8am and you sort of sit in a big room with a couple of hundred other people and then they call various jury potential pools to go into a courtroom, to go through the voir dire process. This has only happened to me one time before. Up to this point, I was one for one, being called into the process and actually ending up on a jury. This one, you know, you end up answering. I think it's about 15 questions that the judge puts before you about your, you know, relationship to the case, any of the lawyers who might be in attendance, any of the witnesses who might be called the judge, you know, him or herself, and you know, your relationship to some of the, some of the beliefs that might come up along the way. So I end up being called to the bench. And something that has changed. And the DC Courthouse is much more modern than I remember. It's a very nice waiting room now. But you get called up to the bench and they have this electronic buzzing noise and it's so jarring.
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Keep you your words from being heard by everyone else.
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Correct because, you know, you're trying to create this, you know, you want to create a deliberate panel that has, you know, that is going to be as impartial as possible. So this is supposed to be something between just you and the lawyers present and, you know, the defendant in this case. But it's hard to think. You know, you hear this when other people are going up there, when you yourself are going up there. It's hard to actually, you know, track your words and your line of thinking.
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So it's because of the noise.
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Yeah, because of the noise. So I end up talking to the judge. You know, I end up being dismissed after that conversation. You know, one trial, one day. So overall, a very good service experience. I did my duty. I went down there. My one issue is I just wish it was easier to get there. So there's no parking that you can really handle in a legal way. Even if you want to go to a lot, it's blocks away. So it's just, you know, if you didn't have the 8am report, it'd be easier to take a. You know, to take a bus to get to the Metro to get down there, which would be, you know, a slower induction into the process. But, man, it's tough to get down there.
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And they pay you a ridiculously small amount of money for your time. It's like four or six dollars. And your transportation to and from is triple and quadruple.
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At a great Uber driver. On the way down, I actually listened to a local radio station where I got to hear some. I got to hear some commercials by one Kevin Schif. She in.
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That's great.
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My Shein voice.
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So you're. You don't have to go back for two years.
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That's what you think. You never quite know.
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I don't have to go at all. I'm too old.
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Yeah, you've been 70 cut off.
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Yeah. No, I mean, even if you get called, you just write back, I'm too old, and then say, fine. The. You know, and I would argue with the assumption that. The assumption is that you reach a certain age, that age being 70 specific, and you can't handle it anymore. So I would argue with that.
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Can't handle the truth.
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It's okay.
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So the tough thing for me is I looked around, and again, you're trying to create a, you know, a jury of your peers. You're trying to create a snapshot of where we live. And I had this realization that I have. I have switched demos. You know, the last time I was down there, I was, you know, young professional of a certain age, you know, idealistic. And now I'm sitting there, I'm like, I'm a father of three with graying beard and thinning hair.
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Yeah.
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And there's a lot of assumptions about me.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, there were the same assumptions the last time you were there to. Different assumptions, but there was a set of assumptions. Yes. All right. In sports news, Kyle Tucker is going to the Dodgers, not the Mets. He's going to make about $60 million a year. There's no point in arguing whether he's worth it. That's not the issue here. The issue is who got him. The Dodgers got him. And they're going to be a lot of people like Mike Wilbon who will scream that the Dodgers have too much money and they own baseball and something has to be done. And I would look the other way. I'm not Dodger fan. I grew up as a Giants fan. I don't like the Dodgers. I admire the Dodgers, but I don't love the Dodgers.
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I think that captures it perfectly. I admire them more the older I get.
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Yeah, I really admire them. And you know why? Because they have all the money and they spend it wisely. They don't miss. Well, yeah, they don't miss. They get the right guy. They know what they're doing. The guy running the club, Andrew Friedman, used to get the right guy for Tampa, which had no money. And now that he's got all the money in the world. Here are the results. Two World Series in a row. Champions. You're going to bet against them this year. You'd be crazy to bet against them this year. Kyle Tucker is a really good player. It does. Again, it's the judgment isn't whether he's worth X amount of millions of dollars. The judgment is does he help this team for whatever they're paying? He does.
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Do you find it interesting that at $60 million a year, he's not even the highest paid teammate man on his team.
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Well, Ohtani makes billions and should.
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Yeah, oh, yes, yes.
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All of it. He doesn't take a dime.
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And I think he'll be the richest.
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Man in the world when he retires.
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New Balance commercial explains it all. Oh, yeah.
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So you know. So that's Kyle Tucker. I wanted to tell a quick. Oh, well, I want to before I tell the quick story. The renderings for the new football stadium inside the line in Washington D.C. have come out. It's beautiful. Does it's going to be domed, but it's going to be domed apparently with a clear dome, which is really a nice.
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The long shot towards the Capitol.
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Yeah. I mean, they're all in succession. They're all in a line. The Washington Monument, the Jefferson Memorial, the baseball stadium.
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It's got nice callbacks.
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Yeah, it's beautiful. It looks like rfk. The top. The flow of the top looks like rfk. This is very deliberately done. It's very deliberately done with consultations by the ownership and the architects. The architects are the same people who apparently have built the Vikings stadium that everybody loves and Sofi, which everybody loves. Everybody loves them. And I can't imagine that the ownership of the Washington football team did not say to these people, we're building it at rfk. We want it to look like rfk. We want to wake the echoes of a great franchise that is no longer great. We want to deliberately go out there and create nostalgia for who we used to be and where we used to do it. Because it's owned by people who grew up here. It's unarguable. Right.
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No. The reverberations of we want Dallas.
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Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Now, is it going to bounce? I doubt it. I've been there when it stands, bounced. I, you know, that's lovely, but probably dangerous. And so I don't think it's going to bounce. But that looks great. Looks great.
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So I don't have a lot of memories of rfk. They're just sort of their snapshots. They're images that are sort of half. Half hazy.
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I covered games there for about 20.
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Years, but I just love being a D.C. native where everyone will tell you their own best way to get down to RFK on game day?
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Yeah, yeah. It's, you know, you're going through neighborhoods easy.
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Would it have been possible to just lift up FedEx field or whatever they call it now, and just keep it. Keep it whole dump.
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Metro accessible.
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It's a dump. It's the worst. Okay. It's a slap dash dump. And I don't, you know, don't blame Dan Snyder for this, Jack. Ken Squire. Yeah. This is not Dan Snyder. It's not Dan Snyder. Now, people stopped going to it in the last 10 to 12 years because they hated Dan Snyder and they hated the building. Yeah, the building's hateable. The building had raw, flowing sewage in the suites. Come on.
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Expired beers.
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Yes.
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All of it.
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Awful. Yeah, Just awful. It's going to be there for four more years because this thing's not going to get built till 2030. Doubt I'm going to make it.
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But it was an easy stadium for divisional rival fans to get to, at least.
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Yeah, well, that was that. Convened for the enemy.
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Yes. Well, for the last, again, 8, 10, 12 years, because of the hatred of Snyder and the hatred of the building, there were generally more fans from the opposing team than cared about the Washington team, generally. True. Certainly true with Philadelphia. Certainly true with the Giants. Certainly true with anything that. Where you could get here pretty quickly. So I had a water bill problem. I'm just going to explain the water bill problem as quickly as I can. I get a call.
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This is DC or Rehoboth dc.
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This is not. This is not the thing that happened the other week with the water where they're, you know, they did an aerial view of my house and decided to charge me $125 more per month, not for water, but for the Clean Rivers.
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Act, you know, for your impervious acreage.
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Yeah, it's. It's not about that. This is the actual bill. I get a call, and I will say that I was very grateful to get a call from DC Water saying you're in arrears. You. We sent you a bill and you never paid the bill. And I looked up in my checkbook and I said, this is the number of the check, and this is when I sent it December 27th. And they said, we didn't get it. I said, well, what are my options? I said, I'll give you credit card number right now. Pay the bill right now. They said, no, we can't take that. We cannot take a credit card. You have to go online. I go, no, no, no. I go, too old. Don't understand it. Can't go online. They said, that's all you can do or send us another check. And there's a penalty. There's about a $20 penalty for late fees. But when I was talking to the person from DC Water, she said to me, well, we'll. The next bill, we will subtract what we have added for late fees.
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And maybe.
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Well, maybe. Yeah, because we can see that you're a good customer who pays on time. And I said, look, here's the problem. I sent this out in the mail. The United States Postal Service did not deliver it to you. I did not deliver it to you. They didn't, you know, they did not deliver it to you. So I don't think I should be charged anything. And they said, well, we didn't get it. I said, I understand that, but why? So it falls on me. Not me, Tony Kornheiser. It falls on everybody. When this happens, I go, I'll live with this. I call my bank. The bank says, that's right. That one was not delivered. I said, we'll put a stop order on it for $35. Good, go. Oh, wow. You know, so again, getting you every way. Yeah, again, I pay. I sent it through the normal way that I send it. And you're telling me that's going to cost me $35? They said, yeah, that's our policy. I have no choice but to eat it. I mean, I have a choice.
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You could take the risk, but.
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I could take the risk, but the.
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Penalty then could be much greater than $35.
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It could be what it.
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I'm sure that's that checking account or whatever it is.
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75.
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No, even more than that. If they're, if they're sort of ripping off the account numbers and have.
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So it didn't do it.
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So I didn't do it. So I took, you know, I took the 35 hit.
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So it's a 55 hit total.
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Total. But I'm supposedly I'm going to get about 20 back.
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Now.
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I would say this, you know, at this point, if they have not already gotten access to that account, it probably just got lost in the show.
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That's what I think too. But I talked to the bank and I say, well, can you make this hole for me? Can you just send this money? I give you permission to send it out of my account. No, you have to go online. Everybody is. You have to go online. This is disenfranchising a sizable amount of people in the United States of America who either a cannot go online because they don't have the facilities to go online, which is true. Not everybody has phones. Not everybody has computers or two. They're disenfranchising people like me that I don't have any idea how to do this. Carol goes down to the bank and they say, you can go online. And then they say, but we don't advise you to go online. There's too much of your information exposed. Don't go online. The bank is telling us you can go online, but we recommend you don't go online. It's the truest. We don't recommend we don't go online. So we did what we thought was the correct thing to do, which is write another check and, and go to the post office and get return receipt requested. Make it certified mail. Right. So you can at least prove you sent something. You may not be able to prove you sent it for X amount of money. If they never get it. But you'd be able to prove it has to be signed for. So you'll be able to prove that someone is in possession of it. That's what I do with estimated taxes. Oh, sure. Return Receipt requested this 10 bucks a shot. So now you know. Now, I mean, if. If it happens, it'd be time to.
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Learn how to go online.
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Yeah, it. If it happens consistently, it's another 10 all the time. It's another 10 all the time. Plus the 35. Yeah. First stop. I'll handle your online plus I'll handle.
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The online billing for about 15amonth.
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You'll do it for me? Yeah, I should probably do that, but I don't. I mean, I'm sure this will resonate with a lot of older people who say, I don't. Don't want to disable. And my other point was, what is the point of me having a credit.
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Card if you can't?
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If I can't? Yeah, if I can't do this with. You can't do this over the phone like I do with, I don't know, 89 other things. Why? And then what's not our policy? We want people hide behind the word policy, and you can't. I asked to talk to a supervisor. I got a supervisor. Supervisor told me to go scratch. This is our policy. Yeah.
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I think this is a way to protect themselves so that they're not liable if something happens in that exchange of the numbers. Whereas if you type in your own credit card number and the expiration date, you're on the hook versus if someone else is typing it in.
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I'm just saying that in this particular case, I did exactly what I've done for 100 years and did it with all good intentions. It didn't get delivered. You know why it doesn't get delivered? This is no real mail anymore. No. There's just junk mail and catalogs. Postal carriers don't even care anymore. They don't even care. You know, everything is email except what I want. Yeah. Except the bills that I want.
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I just have this image of you walking to, like, a local library to get help, going online to pay your water bill. It's just absurd, you know, Shared computer, typing everything in.
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I thought of the two of you one, because I didn't think you'd be able to do this. Michael, I think you've done this. Something I did. The other day, I got a check in the mail. It was cold, and I didn't want to walk to the bank, so I did the take. A photo of it and deposited through.
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My phone, I'm afraid.
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Make sure the. The background is dark enough for contrast.
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Yes. I'm so afraid of that.
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Yeah, I was, I was.
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I don't trust that. Liz does it all the time and it shows up immediately.
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Yes. It was very spooky.
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Who are the people that come and fix everything here? We have. Sherman is in Delaware. Who are the people in D.C. oh.
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Do you sometimes use Crop Medcalf?
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Medcalf. When Crop Medcap comes over, they're always great at the end. I go, okay, so how do we pay this? And I'd like to write a check. And I sure write a check. Then they take a picture of it and then just give me back the check. And I go, what?
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What just happened?
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What just happened? How did that happen? How did that happen?
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How it works. But it does, apparently, that happen.
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That's great.
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You stick it in the oven. When it's done, it's fat. It's fabric.
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Makes your house smell like a bakery.
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Yeah, this stuff is really good. Well, grin. I mean, I, you know, I feel they wrote the ad, I should read the ad and then I should comment. Yeah, you know what? The kids loved it.
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Kids loved it. They had the chocolate croissants. But I love this idea for dinner. You know, this is the season of go to the freezer, see what you have.
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That's what I do. Put it right in the gutter. Small little ball right in the gutter. Ball plays in Jason Lock and fora. I don't know where else we can start. I just think that you got to start with your thoughts on John Harbaugh going to the New York Football Giants. You know, what do you think about that? It's. I think it's good for the Giants, but is it good for John Harbaugh?
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Yeah, I think so. Tomorrow. I mean, look, there's whatever eight. Eight openings or I guess, and I guess that includes the Ravens. So what if there's seven outside the Ravens? All those teams are going to want an audience with him. They weren't all going to get an audience with him. You know, there was interest obviously in the Giants. There's interest in Atlanta. You know, I think he would have heard out Miami under different circumstances and maybe heard out Tennessee, but that would have been it. And really, in all likelihood, I don't think he was going anywhere other than the Giants or Atlanta. And one of those teams has right now a viable quarterback and the other, you know, doesn't really. I mean, look, I think he's going to Atlanta, one division with Cousins next year. Penix comes back the middle of the year, whatever, you know, and then you obviously still may have to sort out something long Term, but I don't think that was a far fetched proposition. But a wise man who's done this forever, and by done this I mean represented people who, you know, are top coach candidates and place them, wise man said to me a long time ago, look at who, especially with a candidate of this stature, whoever they talk to first, whoever they talk to last, that's probably where they're going. And in this case, there was only one team that got the full fledged, you know, live audience with John Harbaugh and it was the Giants. And they made a full court press and a very compelling case and they were always going to be probably in the final two no matter what. And it was compelling enough and it was, you know, sort of comprehensive enough that he's ready to cast his lot there and, and didn't really feel like he had to, you know, go through this much longer, which is kind of how he's wired in his own brand for him. I know there's a lot of people saying, oh, gone from the Baltimore media to the New York media, like it's going to be very different. When's the last time they had a full fledged, bona fide, proven adult coach of the New York Football Giants, Tom Coughlin? Right. This guy's gonna get such a long leeway.
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Yes.
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Like people are gonna be like, he's going to get the benefit of the doubt for I believe, a long period of time. And the idea, you know, well, he can be a little bit abrasive and all that, it's New York. But as long as he wins some football games, nobody's gonna care. And when he does mix it up with the media and boy, I'll mix it up with plenty of times, there's usually a phone call a couple days later or whatever. He understands people, he understands the dynamics that go into this. He understands how to clean up messes. I think he'll be rock star up there, to be honest with you. And I look at that division And I mean, McAdoo won the first year, right. Gable won, I think the first year, if I could win the first year. But then also, you know, back it up. I would be interested to see if Joe Shane, the GM is there in 2027, 2028. I suspect maybe not. I think he will get a level of, of power and control there that he didn't have in Baltimore. And I mean, I think people in New York are doing backflips right now and I understand why. And just because he was no longer the right coach for the Baltimore Ravens, which I don't think he was, does not mean he wasn't the best option for a bevy. A quarter of teams in the league right now that are looking for coaches.
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Let me get to this thing that you can't win without a good quarterback. Are we to assume that he looks at Jackson Dart as a long term fixture there and he's the quarterback?
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I think he's certainly hopeful that, that he can pick up where he left off and he can avoid the types of, you know, absences that were very much a part of the Jackson Dart rookie year story. And there's a lot to like about that young man and the way people gravitate to him, the different energy and sort of ferv that that team played with when he took over, the way guys on the defense respond to him. And then obviously the play, his ability, he has playmaking ability, he has natural athletic prowess. And look, Hobbs also knows he's bringing, you know, he's bringing a lot of his bandwidth. He's bringing. It's not like this is a complete reboot. He knows who he can delegate to and how he can delegate to them. And a lot of those individuals are coming with him. And Todd Monkey with Jackson Dart just, it feels like a natural, feels like a super smart coupling. He was just coaching kids in the SEC a few years back and doing it in Georgia as well as anybody. He had Lamar Jackson at his best season ever. We had his two best seasons ever with Todd Monket, so. And Todd can handle. Todd's great with the media and, and he gets it. And he's not like one of these guys who's just infatuated with being a head coach. Like maybe it happens for him, maybe not, but he's going to be focused on a task at hand which is maximizing Jackson Dart. So yeah, I like if you're not sure who the coordinator is and you hope you get this guy, you hope you get that guy. But I think the fact that he knows he's walking in the door with Todd Monkett made him immediately feel like that whatever that situate quarterback situation is, whether it was the best one out there or maybe the worst one out there, I can start making it better day one because Todd's with me.
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A
Here's a. Here's my pushback. Okay, 4 and 13 this year, 3 and 14 last year, 6 and 11 the year before, 13 and 48 the last three years. I watched people on television yesterday talk about how the Giants would be immediate contenders to go to the playoffs. And my Response was, you're not walking into managing the Yankees here. You're not. They, you know, other than Coughlin and Parcells, the Giants stink for the last 40 years. Not as bad as the Jets. Nobody is. But you're not walking in here to a surefire deal.
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Yeah, I mean, I would agree with that, but you've got it. You're. You're. If he wasn't going to sit out of here, which he wasn't. Right.
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He wanted to coach, he won. Coach. Right.
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C
And this is the field. And if you look at the field, I mean, again, I think Atlanta is the best job.
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Right.
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I think Atlanta, like, again, I think you could win in that division next year with Kirk Cousins.
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Bad owner, bad owner. Bad.
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C
I don't know. Bad owner. I don't know. I think. I think he's got. He's got some. Some blind spots for sure. But I've. I mean, I saw him keep paying Matt Ryan when he probably shouldn't anymore. Like, I've seen him continue to give Thomas Dimitrov a lot of money to spend at times when it's like, why don't they just reboot already? I think. I think that owner, especially at this stage of his life, would have given John Harbaugh anything he wanted. And I think John Harbaugh just preferred.
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The Giants right now. I agree with that.
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Yeah, I think Atlanta could be a better look. I don't. I don't think that ownership group with New York has left a lot to be desired for a long time. I don't think this immediately cures their ills. And again, I think Atlanta is more of a blank slate on the personnel side, which, which would have appealed if I were John to me, greatly, rather than having to deal with someone who already is kind of lame ducky in Joe Shane. So, yeah, I don't think it's a slam dunk, but I think he. He will. I think he will steward them in a. In a way that they're playing respectable football. They got to fix their defense. And we're going to see about his defensive side of the staff because he's. He's had plenty of woes there lately, but there's some talent there. And, like, are the Eagles a juggernaut? Like, is Sirianni coaching that thing in two years? Like, I don't. I don't know. Washington's got a ton of question marks and the Cowboys will never win as long as Jerry Jones on the. So I don't know, man. I think that division is kind of there for like, no, it's not as wide open as the NFC south, but I don't know that I'm going to sit there and crown the Eagles right now and say that. Absolutely. Their division next year.
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Okay. All the games this weekend, is there one you're sure of?
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Ooh, sure of. I mean, I think Seattle wins this game, and I think it's a low scoring game, you know.
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Right.
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C
Like, I don't know that they blow this game at home to San Francisco. We have, you know, the full Sam Darnold meltdown that some people are fearful of, and I understand why they're fearful of, but I just. I don't think it plays out that way. I think their defense is too good. I think San Francisco is too beat up. I think, you know, San Francisco could win that game, you know, potentially 13, 12 or something like that. I mean, I have a lot of other leans and, you know, things. Things that I like. You know, I. I expect the same kind of thing from Houston. They win. It's a low scoring game.
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Yeah.
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You know, it's a rock fight. They're a little bit more equipped to win the rock fight as long as, again, Stroud has that, like, he can't do what he did last week. You know, you got to hold on to the football, son. Like, we got to start there. We got to the baseline of. You cannot put the ball on the ground five times and throw it to the other team a couple of times and think our defense is that, you know, a generational. But I think the superpower in that game is Houston's defense, and they're built to win on the road. And their road Games average just 35 points, and they've been winning a bunch of them and covering a bunch of them, and I think they're going to be able to, you know, produce that sort of an outcome. I mean, I really like the Rams, but I also know it's going to be extreme cold.
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Yeah.
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And I wish that, like, I don't believe that whatever was going on with the tip of Stafford's finger is a complete nothing burger. And I know he wasn't receiving medical attention at the time, but sometimes there's not much you can do for those kind of things. But that gives me a little bit of pause. Like, I think I'll go out there and be Stafford, and I expect the Rams to win that game, but if they don't, I think I already know. You know, they already know balls are selling. And it's even harder for him to control it because of the weather and there's something really kind of messed up with his finger. But you know, I like the Rams, Texans, super bowl when the field came out. And I think that, that I think and hope my wallet really hopes to that that vision is still alive three days from now.
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I will say this, that weeks ago on this show I asked you, I looked at the Baltimore, this is when the Tomlin fire Tomlin thing started and I said, what do you think? Do you think both are back next year? Do you think one is back next year or do you think both are gone next year? You said both are gone. And I said, what? What? And you had that right. You did, you had, you had that right. Good for you. I mean, you had.
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They definitely weren't both coming back. One of them was probably gone. And yeah, I thought the most likely outcome is both those teams which they're always paired. It's just so crazy how they're always at the same sort of like their timelines are always aligned. They really are mirror images. Yeah. I thought both would be conducting head coaching searches for the first time in about 20 years. Of course, because it's so incestuous, their list will end up being very similar because they are, they are similar in some, in some ways. So I do, I do think it's interesting the Steelers owner is actually going to meet with all these candidates and Bachati is going to stay on his yacht until they whittle it down to four and then he'll get involved. He's got other stuff.
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Steelers owner probably doesn't have a yacht plug wannabe for us. Plug wannabe.
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That's one way to look at it. Hey, yeah, we've got all our plays this weekend in the NFL. A lot of them we've already given out on one about. It's a daily seven day a week sports wager and game show. Myself, Beltway, Ben hall, we give you over all of our favorite plays in all the markets that we are gambling in. We tell you why we bet them, we tell you how, excuse me, how we've been doing in those markets. We show all our work, we track every bet to tell you how up we are, how down we are at times. Right now we're up and we see plus money value. We're not trying to parlay a bunch of minus 400 things together. We're trying to come up with strategies that inherently attack the books in some ways where maybe they're a little vulnerable. So again, soccer, basketball, baseball. Well, baseball futures right now, college, pro, everything. If you're going to wager maybe you know give us 30 minutes. Let don't wait better. And I try to entertain you. You can watch or listen. It's available@wannabetwithus.com you go there you can get links to all all of our content. Thank you guys as always for your support. We continue to get emails from littles who found us through you guys and we sincerely appreciate it.
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We will talk to you next week. Thank you Jason. Jason Lock and fora boys and girls we will come back with James Carville and Jeff ma. I'm Tony Kornheiser. This is the Tony Kornheiser show. Well, you wake up in the morning boy.
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You hear the ding dong ring. Then you look upon the table bar you see the same darn thing. You find no food upon the table bar. There's no fork up in the pan. But you better not complain Bob, you get in trouble with the man.
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It's the midnight special. Paul Evans. It's the play in music for James Carville who was not 60 last week as he was the week before, but who had both overs right in the college games and then fell down in the pro games, ended up 2, 3, but 53. All three humans, not our ape. All three humans are above.500. And you know, depending on what happens in the last couple of weeks, it's a real chase. This week's picks, excuse me. With James Carville and Jeff Maher brought to you by FanDuel Sportsbook. Make every moment more. Do you want to reflect upon last week or just move ahead to this week?
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No, I want to reflect because it is all my fault. I made the statement. Dumbest rookie mistake you can make. If you remember, we six zero. We had both college over under so we ate. No.
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Yes.
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And The packers are 19 up and I sent the most jackass text in history. It looks like we got this one in the bag. Yeah. Fourth down for 70 years. You think I'd know not to mouth myself?
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Yeah.
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All my fault. Like Lee after Gettysburg. It's all my fault.
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Well, I'll just tell you that it made Wilbon happy. It made Wilbourne happy. And I just wondered, I wondered if, you know, I know you picked Jacksonville and a lot of people pick Jacksonville, but I wondered if you talked to Luke about that and if Luke was unhappy that you went against Buffalo in that game.
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Well, man's got to be ruthless and merciless in his pursuit of winning. Bob Gibson, he's doing his own granddaughter.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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What do you got this week?
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What do you got what I got what I got. But we got spaced out. First of all, 49 is Saturday night getting seven points at Seattle.
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Yeah.
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That's what you call the common sense contrarian bet. Common sense will tell you to bet on Seattle, but.
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Yes.
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Contrarian method says bet on the 49.
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Well, I would say because just a couple of weeks ago Seattle smothered them in Seattle. So that's what I would worry about. So you're going to take 49, but.
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You got to have the cars to go.
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Okay.
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Gets common sense.
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Okay.
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I like the rams bears over 48.
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You like over in the cold and the wind.
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I do. And I like to, I like to under in the Indiana Miami game.
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The under and Miami's Indiana under the tortures. Yes. Indiana scoring 100 points a game by themselves.
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See what Myers defense is?
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It's good. It's. It's good.
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Yeah. So you good football weekend.
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So you're going to take the under on Monday night. The under 47 and a half and over. The over with the Rams and the Bears on Sunday night. That's the late game, I think. Yes.
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Right. So you got. And you got to Saturday night late game.
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You got San Francisco at Seattle. All right.
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But I remember I killed it. 8 and 19 points up. It looks like it's in the bag.
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Yeah.
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That means you're in the toilet when you do that.
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Yeah. Thank you, James. The best of luck as always. James Carville. And we have Jeff Ma with us. And Jeff had a bad week last week. Uncharacteristically bad week. We'll get to that in a second. He was one in four last week and he has opened the door to Chuck Todd and James Carville to maybe catch him. Going to be hard. Jeff would have to have bad couple of bad weeks in a row and they'd have to be great. But suddenly it's not a three horse race. But it's no longer Secretary against Sham. It's no longer that. It's no longer 35 and a half lengths going to the wire. Jeff is with us now. Unlike, unlike you, you had one winner. You had. You had Indiana minus three and a half. You could have had him at minus 25 and a half. But you do didn't get Ole Miss. Right. And you didn't get the Bears. Right. You had the packers in that one. You had Jacksonville, you had Pittsburgh plus three. That was the one that sort of confused me a little bit. Take us through the anxiety of, of having a one in four week.
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I mean I didn't sleep the entire weekend. And. No, I mean, this. These things happen. And what's funny is last week, I felt good about the picks. I mean, I. When I. When I bet Philly, I. Sorry. When I. When I bet Green Bay in that game, you know, they had them roughly at even. They ended up minus 130, meaning, like, they became a pretty big favorite. Similar thing with. With Jacksonville. You know, Ole Miss also was, you know, you look at how the line moves at the close of the game.
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Yeah.
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And that's kind of how you evaluate your process, essentially. Like, if you bet something at minus three and it closes, you know, minus five, you feel really good about your opportunity. You don't always win in those cases, but in all these cases, I beat what is called the closing line. So if you beat the closing line, that's typically how you evaluate your process. Like, because if you beat the closing line, more often than not, you will win. It doesn't mean you will win all the time. And again, in the case that you go. You go back to this. Yeah, it happened. And so, like, yes, it was. It was tough, obviously, going into that Pittsburgh game, which, you know, when you. When you look back on it, given the turnovers and whatnot, Pittsburgh probably should have lost that game by even more. And. And they were never really in that game. They didn't have the game plan that I thought they'd have. Rod looked very old and, you know, Houston unleashed an offense that we haven't seen them have. So similarly, in that Buffalo game, you know, we talked about the only reason you bet on Buffalo in that game is Josh Allen. And that's what happen.
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C
And Josh Allen.
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Yeah, he did it. And, you know, the Pittsburgh. Probably the game that bothered me the most was obviously Green Bay, Chicago, because.
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You'Re up 21 3.
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21 3.
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At the half, he looked dead. He looked dead. And I was looking forward to a disappointed Wilbourne, but, you know, it didn't happen. So.
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And now Will Bonds out in Chicago today? Yeah, he's going to go to the game. I hope he takes his shirt off because it's going to be 8 degrees. Hope that works out for him. But. But, yeah, I mean, the packers should have won that game comfortably. That it is. You know, I don't know how you figure this, and I don't know what you think about this if you are doing this professionally. The Chicago Bears have won seven games this year while being behind in the last two minutes of the game. That seems to me not just extraordinary, but unbelievable. Do you factor that in. When you, when you bet on those games.
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Well, you actually do factor it in, and it is. It's almost like a knock against the Bears because ultimately, one of the reasons that the Bears feel overrated is because of how many close games they won. A lot of these close games can be, you know, like coin flips. And if you think about even Kansas City is a team this year who historically has won the close games at a very high mark. And this year they did it. You know, so that. And that was kind of the difference. And so, yeah, I mean, I think you expect regression at some level and you expect that the Bears won't continue to get, you know, this. The throw that Caleb Williams made in that game, rolling to his left, throwing it all the way to Roman Dunes, that was incredible. And how often is he going to be able to make that pass that way? I don't think that often. So, I mean, again, like to spoiler alert. I don't. I like the Rams this week because I don't think the Bears can keep it up.
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Yeah. Okay, let's. Let's do the picks. Before we do the picks, let me just say this, that we had Booger McFarland on PTI yesterday, and what he said about Caleb Williams rings true to me. That, you know, don't. Don't look at the numbers. Don't look at all the times he gets in trouble. He has it. He has that special quality. He's got it. Do you. I think that's possible that he does.
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I mean, he's got a lot of talent, right? I mean, when he was in college, we all believe that he had almost the same amount of talent that Mahomes might have. And then, you know, he had like a weird senior year and then a weird rookie year. And yeah, I mean, the talent is there, right? So it's like whether he's got that leadership. The leadership narrative is a little bit of what we'd call a confirmation bias. Meaning, like all of a sudden now, because he's winning, people see something that they didn't see in him before. You know, I think. I think he's a very talented player. I mean, he's. He's basically has a lot of the same skills Mahomes has.
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C
He's.
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B
He's not quite as accurate, but he can make these incredible plays and those highlight. I mean, I've probably seen that play on Twitter like 16 times because of how big a play it was.
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All right, what have you got? Tell us what you got.
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B
All right, we'll start in the NFL, we'll pick all the NFL games, Seahawks even minus six and a half or minus seven.
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I see it at minus seven.
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B
Yeah, I'm going to take the minus the seven. Against the Niners, this line opened at.
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C
Six and a half, went up all.
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B
The way to eight and a half and is now kind of back down to seven. I'm surprised that it came back to seven. I just think the 49 like this, this rest issue is huge. And you know, we talked about it in college, not mattering, but in the NFL it still matters a lot. Like time off for these guys. A week off is huge. The Niners are completely beat up and you know, obviously this is, this is a really tough spot for them. So I like Seattle minus a seven.
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Okay, what else?
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B
I'm going to take the Broncos basically minus one or even against the Bills. I don't know what you guys have, but, you know, the narrative now would be to continue to say like, okay, the Bills are the favorites in the AFC because they're by far have the best quarterback. I'm not falling for it. And ultimately I think that the Broncos are pretty much better at every position except for quarterback and running back and by a considerable bound at home again getting rest. I'm going to take the Broncos.
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Yeah. I mean, I think if you bet Buffalo, you bet him because you are just in love with Josh Allen, especially after last week, and you think there's nothing he can't do. But Denver, Denver's been real good all year. Not real good all year. So that's minus one. We've got that at minus one.
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C
Yeah.
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Okay. What else?
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I'm going to take the Texans. I'm a Patriots fan, so this pains me to say, but I think that defense and their ability to get pressure with, you know, three or four guys is going to be a lot for Drake May in this, in this spot. Obviously May has been incredible all year. I also think that the Texans have, you know, an ability to have a higher ceiling if C.J. stroud plays well. And he, you know, despite the fumbles and despite some of the brain dead things he did in that game, he played pretty well. And they had a running game that we haven't seen. So I think that, you know, as a, as an underdog here, getting three might be three and a half points. But when it's all said and done.
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C
And we take the Texans, I understand.
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That their defense is really, really good and done and defense travels more than offense travels. I understand that this is a game where I would you know, I don't know what the over under is, but I'd be inclined to take the under in a game like this. Over under, probably real small, probably in the high 30s.
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A 40.5.
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Yeah. What do you think, Jeff? Would you be inclined to do that? That's a real low over under 40.
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Yeah, it is low and, you know, it's priced in. I don't know how the weather will be. That's obviously a big determinant.
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Yeah.
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B
But, you know, the New England Patriots were the team with the most explosive plays in the NFL. So you get two or three of those explosive plays, and all of a sudden, you know, that was one of the interesting matchups with the Chargers because Minters defense is. Is out there trying to prevent. What they're really good at is preventing explosive plays. And they didn't really get any explosive plays in that game, but they, you know, slog their way through. And the Chargers couldn't do anything on offense, so they ended up covering pretty easily.
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A
Okay, and the Rams, you're going to take the Rams. What are they, minus, minus three and.
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B
A half, minus four, minus four.
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I'm seeing it minus three and a half now.
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B
All right, I'll take the three and a half for sure.
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A
You will?
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C
Yeah.
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B
I mean, the Rams are a team that obviously, first half of the season was the best team in the NFL, like a historically good team, and everyone thought they were head and shoulders better than everyone. They've definitely stumbled a bit that game against Carolina and it gave everyone pause for calling them potential super bowl favorites.
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So they should have lost last week. They should have lost in Carolina. They should have. They're. They're. They're not. And I had picked them for the super bowl when we had to do that on PTI about five or six weeks ago, and I'll stand by it. But I thought they were going to lose Carolina again. I did.
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C
Got it.
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A
All right. Yeah.
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Well, I mean, I think. I think that's a situation again, like, where, you know, if Bukanuku catches that ball at the end of the first half, is that game different?
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Yes.
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B
And maybe. Maybe it's considerably different. And that's a ball he probably catches. You know, 95% of the time there was pretty bad win. So a lot of this can depend on weather. If it's just cold, it shouldn't be a big deal. But if it is windy there, that could have a really big impact on, on Stafford and the Rams.
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A
That's why they call it the Windy City. That's what they're expecting. All right, college game. You're going to pick the college game, aren't you?
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B
Yeah, I'm going to pick the college game. Indiana is a team that we've talked about since the beginning being, you know, the sort of, you know, like sneaky favorite. And what they did against Oregon was pretty incredible. But I'm going to tell you what's interesting about this game. Before that game, before the Indian, Indiana, Oregon game, when we knew it was going to be Miami against someone, that Indiana was slated to be favored by only five and a half points based on that win, that line popped at seven and a half, meaning like there were two points of value that introduced by India and beating Oregon and then all of a sudden it's up to eight and a half and it's just hard for me to believe that that win should really have moved that line, you know, three points. When, when so much of that blowout, you know, obviously Indiana looked amazing, but so much of that blowout was based on Oregon's ineptitude and turning the ball over and you know, 321 points were literally delivered and handpicked to, to, to Indiana. So I am going to take Miami plus the points, plus the eight and a half because I just think that they, they had to inflate this line so much because how good Indiana looked at Oregon and I think that performance was a little bit misleading in how bad that blowout was.
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A
In your mind, do you think Miami can win the game?
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Yeah, I mean, I think they can. I mean, I don't think, I mean if you, if you, you know, gave me the minus five and a half, I would take Indiana. But okay, half, I'm at eight and a half. I'm going to take Miami. So I mean obviously they can win. They probably have, you know, 25% chance to win this game, but I would take, you know, Indiana 75% of the time.
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A
It's interesting because Miami has, you know, five star blue chip recruits. They got real players there and of course Indiana doesn't. I'm, I'm rooting for Indiana just because it would be, it may be the greatest college football season of all time if they finish undefeated and they have been so terrible for so long to have this two year burst like this to culminate with 16 and oh, and they're pound. Their plus minus is 374, Jeff. 374.
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B
I mean we talked about it last week. We said like if there was a different name on the front of their jersey, you know, if it said something like Alabama or Ohio State, with this kind of performance, they would have been favored by, you know, close to a touchdown, probably against Oregon. And now that is what you're seeing here. There is, there has been that reaction. So, you know, again, like, betting is a market. You're betting into a market. And when the market is high on someone, they're almost too high. That's when you've got to go the other way. And that's why I'm taking Miami.
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A
All right. Thank you, Jeff. We'll talk next week. Thank you.
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Thanks, Tony.
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Jeff Mobb, boys and girls are this week's picks with James Carville and Jeff Mobb and brought to you by FanDuel Sports Sportsbook. Make every moment more and we will come back with email and jingle. And I'm Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser Show.
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And before we get to the mailbag, let me just say, just take those old records off the shelf. I'll sit and listen to them by myself. Today's music ain't got the same soul. I like that old time rock and roll. That's Bob Seeger in the Silver Bullet Bands. Great song, great song. Thanks to our guest today, Jason Lock, James Carville, Jeff, Ma. Thanks as well to today's sponsors. Remember, you can listen to us on Apple podcasts Spotify and Odyssey. Get the show through Apple. Please leave us a review.
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I love that she held up the ceremony for the second graders to arrive.
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And get her daughter. Was that great? From Sean Bach from Jenny's Splendid Ice Creams in Columbus, Ohio, we know that Tillamook is currently the heavyweight champion of your freezer and your heart. Actually, it's McConnell's coffee.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But here at Jenny's Splendid Ice Creams, we believe we've created a worthy challenger. We're getting ready to release our brand new coffee ice cream in celebration of Breakfast for Ice cream day on February 7th. Before it hits the shelves, we wanted to get a few pints into your hands specifically so you could test them out over the kitchen sink. Could you let us know the best shipping address to send a preview package to? Isn't that great? We'd love to see if this new batch has what it takes to share the podium with your current favorite. How do they listen to the show? How does Sean Bach.
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Well done, Sean.
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Yeah, that's really work, Sean.
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Let's get sent to the main address from Papatheum. I saw these allegedly unbreakable and almost impossible to lose thanks to the string golf tees in a report on the local news about a 16 year old French boy designing and 3D printing golf accessories from his bedroom in his parents house. His products are sold through France's largest sporting goods retailer. He likely has a bright future ahead after high school. Made me want to send him a few bucks even though I don't play golf. So I thought you and Michael might like to try them. Also got a couple of his car carpet mounts just in case. Don't laugh at me if this is all stuff you can pick up anywhere for other makers. I don't play golf. And this is from Papa dm. Why do I feel like I'm buying influence in Washington right now? They are unbreakable tees. They're very cool and you say that you use them a lot in a simulator room.
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So if you're. Yeah. Various sims you have to use something that's non marking. So this looks like it'd be appropriate for like a, you know, hitting off of a range mat in a. In a similar.
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It looks. Yeah, yeah.
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Very cool to know that they were 3D printed though from a kid.
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Yeah. I hope he doesn't make bombs. He doesn't do that.
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Yes.
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Clear our guns. Claire Natola, Delaware, Ohio each holiday season since 2017, littles have come together to raise funds for charity. Please give my sincere thanks to all the Littles who donated $2,491.06 last month to Rocco's Warriors. Over the last nine years, Little donated over $23,000 during our holiday drives. Doesn't include money we raised during special events like Little Palooza. At other times of the year, Littles continue to demonstrate that their generosity is second to none. Speaking of Little Palooza, everyone should save the first weekend of June for the next Little palooza. In the D.C. area. June five through seven. Planning is well underway, so stay tuned to the usual social media channels and to Chuck and Roxy's Laura Little podcast For details from Andy McBride. I've attached a few songs for you. This is the Mixed Apes. Yes, we didn't get to this the other day. The first one I think might work for your episode. Groundhog Day is often overlooked holiday that deserves a little more attention, not because of the rodent, but because it celebrates one of the greatest characters in film history. Our band the Mixed Apes dedicated a song to the incomparable Ned Ryerson. Attention must be paid. And if we are so lucky to get one song on, why not press our luck for a couple more? So these are yes, we didn't play.
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The the Groundhog Day, the Ned Ryerson song, but I'm holding that for a couple weeks.
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Yes, it's worth it. Astronaut News Paul Wade in Columbia, Missouri Longtime listener, six time emailer I understand the new connective tissue is Whether you've met an astronaut In 2017, I was selected to be a Pat Tillman Scholar. It was a real honor. I didn't understand just how small it would make me feel at the time. I was a Purple Heart awardee and former Airborne qualified infantry officer who served three deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan, completed an MBA at Benedictine University, and was entering my last year at law school at the University of Missouri, made famous when its marching band had a rendition of the Mailbag theme played on this very show. Among the many people I got to meet at my first Tillman Honors Weekend was Johnny Kim, a Tillman Tillman Scholar himself, but also a Navy SEAL who I believe at the time was finishing up at a little school called Harvard Medical before heading off to NASA to start training for his next job, astronaut. There was an optional running group every morning I happened to be next to Johnny and another Tillman Scholar who'd been a Green Beret, and while running they were talking about having to learn different languages. Apparently Johnny had to learn Russian to be able to work on the space station. All I could add to the conversation was it seemed like a lot of work to just to get a better view of Uranus. Johnny Kim was a really nice guy. You can follow his journey on a lot of social networks if you're interested. He just got back from space last month.
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Wow.
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Barry Scanlon Alexandria, Virginia if still collecting random astronaut legend encounters, I offer, I worked for a Clinton Cabinet official and attended the Clinton Library opening ceremony, which was outdoors, brutally cold and pelted by a merciless driving rain. VIPs and idiots like me alike got drenched and frozen and back into shuttle buses as we got back to the Capitol Hotel in Little Rock and quickly bought dry clothes In a gift shop that made us all look ridiculous. We sat down with an older couple from the bus to eat soup. Was tough to know who was with who, with all the hoodies. We all casually recounted the event, ate our soup. The random guest even gave me his bread and crackers. Wondering who these people were. I arched an eyebrow and got this response from the boss who says that Senator and Mrs. Glenn, perhaps the most humble and friendly legend of all time. From Fred Naur, Minneapolis, Minnesota. First time, long time. Just heard on your high quality podcast about a John Glenn sighting. Here's mine. When I was in second grade in 1962, my dad worked for 3M, the company that made the material the spacesuits were made of. He got a piece of material to bring home. He gave it to me so I could bring it to school for show and tell. He told me this was the material that John Glenn's spacesuit was made of. Later that day he got a call from my teacher saying I told the class I had a piece of John Glenn spacesuit. It was a story that made into family lore and talked about for many years. Fast forward to 1991 through a North Carolina college flight school I'm attending. Me and a group of students found ourselves at the Mercury dinner in Washington D.C. a dinner that raised money for scholarships and celebrate the 30th anniversary of Alan Shepard's space flight. Six of the Mercury 7 astronauts were in attendance. I bought a piece of shiny material with me. As luck would have it, John Glenn walked by our table. I stopped and told him the piece of John Glenn spacesuit story. Got him to sign it. Thus bringing the lore full circle. Tell Paul Craig to eat it. Well done Tom Mensch. I've listened to all of your shows for years. I'm a former teacher and coach of your friend Rob Stronach. Well, the astronaut meeting game has finally gotten me to email my son. Bill has done a documentary the Artists and the Astronaut. He has interviews from Alan Bean, Jerry Carr, Jean Krantz, Frank Borman, many other astronauts and astronauts wives. Excuse me. The film has won many honors and is on Amazon. It centers around Jerry Carr and Pat Music. I believe Rob gave you a link to the film. Bill did all the interviewing, editing and production. His friend Todd Hobban did the score took eight years to make. He became friends with all the astronauts. I hope the Littles will give it a look. Thanks for being the medicine we need to keep us moving forward. Tom Mensch. Pronounced Minch or Mench. Either Minch or Mensch. Bob Gray Prince Edward island. That's in Canada. I can't wait to jump in on the astronaut game. Being a total space nerd. NASA tech. When the space station will be visible overhead on Prince Edward Island, I'll run out in the cold and snow just to watch it travel across the sky. Canadian astronaut Chris Hadfield commanded the International space station for five months in 2013. He video called into schools across Canada all during the flight, speaking live with thousands of students, answering questions and talking back and forth. Also he sings and recorded a cover of David Bowie's Space Oddity Ground Control for major tone from space. It and the subsequent subsequent video were huge hits worldwide. Oh yeah. All he does is write best selling mysteries. Now he's a household name in Canada. Huge inspiration. Hero. I met him at one of his school video calls. That's got to count, right? Chris Hadfield has so much of the right stuff. It's remarkable.
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That's amazing.
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Dan Chase, Asheville, North Carolina. In the late 90s at my high school, North Carolina School of Science and Math, one of my friends was laid back and talented Christina Hammock. She was into photography and good music and got along with everyone. Then in 2020, the International Space Station orbited through the sky over my home. I went outside and jokingly waved hello to it from my lawn. That night I did a little research and discovered that my old high school buddy is now named Christina Cook and she was on the space station at the time. She was then in the midst of the longest ever space mission by a female. Now Christina is one of four Artemis astronauts who will fly by the moon next month. Oh, I predict she'll be the first woman to set foot there someday. Tell Reginald in case he wants to put some money down on that. From George Millay. I hope you and Nigel aren't getting overwhelmed with encounters between littles and astronauts. My most recent. My most recent astronaut, meaning sometimes he's had others happen. In the spring of 2024, while covering the solar eclipse at Indianapolis Motor Speedway, Daytime darkness together, astronaut Andrew J. Fustel, I hope I pronounced that correctly, was among the celebrity guests. He made three trips to space including on the telescope. He performed three spacewalks on that mission. So there's a problem because the. Oh, is it? Yeah, it's not on the thing but, but anyway, anyway, so George, he also met John Glenn in an elevator at the Russell Center's office building in 1982. So. Wow. He's got a lot of these things and he's got pictures of it which is Great. With astronauts and astronaut gear. That's wonderful. But the next time we print it, we should try to get it on the same page.
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Yes.
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From Joe in Greensboro. If the game is Tell us about the time you met an astronaut. I have little to offer, but still a connection to the space program. Worth sharing. My father was a technician and designer for the aerospace company Rockwell International in California in the 60s. Rockwell was contracted by NASA for several pieces of equipment needed for the Apollo 11 mission. My father was the one who manufactured the plaque that currently sits on the moon.
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Wow.
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Picture attached. I vividly remember him showing me the blueprints of the plaque in my younger years. It's on the moon. It's on the moon.
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The real moon.
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The real moon. Targonsky, Sioux City, Iowa. I've not met a single astronaut. I've never been duck pin bowling. I have, however, seen Mike Singletary on two separate occasions in two different airports. He was not duck pin bowling either time, nor has he been an astronaut, as far as I know. I guess technically I didn't meet him, but he walked out by me both times anyway. I'm sure Wilbon would not be impressed, as I'm sure he has Singletary in one of his group chats, along with Sid Luckman and Bronco Nagursky, of course. And the rest are not. They're not. So we'll hold the rest of them. Okay. Hold the rest of them for another day. We did all astronauts today. Yes. If you're out on your bike tonight, everyone, as always, do wear white. All right, that's it. Let's roll.
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Hey, let's be careful on it.
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I don't know what I'll be like today I miss my best friends but they're long Go away turns out all right Too many sad, sad songs.
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Pity.
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Party'S over But I'm not in time to be if I could forget you maybe I could sleep.
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Please.
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Let go of me how am I supposed to breathe if you're near me before you turn on I still cry Please take your step and please let go of me when am I gonna be okay? When am I gonna be okay? I don't know what I'll be today but all the scars gone, gone all the scars all the scars I'm a.
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Bed.
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But how, how do I get my life back on track? I hated you for a long time But I got to let go.
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I'm.
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Taking my power back it's time for me to glow Please let go me how am I supposed to breathe if you're near me. Please let go of me.
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Jes.
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When I. Be okay.