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“The Corduroy Suit Story”

The Tony Kornheiser Show

Thu Dec 19 2024

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Podcast Summary: The Tony Kornheiser Show – “The Corduroy Suit Story”

Release Date: December 19, 2024
Host: Tony Kornheiser
Guests: Jason Lock and Fora

1. NFL and NBA Ratings Discussion (00:00 – 05:05)

Tony Kornheiser kicks off the episode with a conversation about the declining ratings in the NBA compared to the NFL and college football. He highlights a Washington Post article on the Emirates Cup tournament, emphasizing its lack of viewership and overall quality.

Tony Kornheiser (01:16):
“Well, it isn't very good to begin with. It isn't very good. And B, nobody's watching it and their ratings are way down. Way down.”
Discussion Points:
- The NBA’s strategy to capitalize on Christmas games compared to the NFL’s dominance.
- Adam Silver’s assertion that the NBA fan base is stronger than ever, contrasted with the reality that fans prefer highlights over full games.
- The impact of cable television's decline on NBA viewership.

2. Tony’s Wardrobe Choices and the Corduroy Suit (07:00 – 14:25)

Tony delves into his personal wardrobe, specifically discussing his cherished caramel-colored corduroy suit. He shares anecdotes about maintaining a varied wardrobe to appear fresh across multiple shows and the sentimental value of his corduroy suit.

Tony Kornheiser (08:31):
“It's the tie and the jacket. You have to have a different look.”
Notable Insights:
- The economic aspect of wearing an older suit multiple times, reducing the cost per wear significantly.
- The timeless appeal of corduroy in broadcasting despite changing fashion trends.
- Personal stories about alterations and the suit’s history, including its possible purchase from stores like Lord & Taylor or Woodward & Lothrop.

3. Bill Belichick’s Potential Move to College Football (18:07 – 22:08)

A substantial portion of the episode focuses on the speculation surrounding Bill Belichick’s possible transition from the NFL to college football. Tony and guest Jason Lock and Fora discuss the implications of such a move.

Tony Kornheiser (20:20):
“This is tremendously exciting. I don't like Bill Belichick personally, but the notion that Bill Belichick would go and take a college job... I think it's a front page story.”
Guest Insights:
- Jason Lock and Fora (20:56):
  "It's an amazing sort of football sociological experiment."
Discussion Points:
- Belichick’s influence and potential strategies in college football.
- The impact on player recruitment and team dynamics if Belichick takes a college position.
- Comparisons to other coaches like Nick Saban and how Belichick’s methods might translate outside the NFL.

4. Atlanta Falcons’ Benching of Kirk Cousins (22:08 – 27:43)

The hosts analyze the Atlanta Falcons' decision to bench veteran quarterback Kirk Cousins in favor of rookie Michael Penix. They critique the timing and rationale behind the move, considering the Falcons’ playoff aspirations.

Tony Kornheiser (22:08):
“I have to say this. ... I think it's a front page story, and I think it's exciting. Am I overblowing this?”
Jason Lock and Fora (25:22):
“I saw it coming. I think it's silly on their part that the young man Penix didn't get a chance to sort of have a soft launch against Vegas.”
Key Points:
- The Falcons’ high financial commitment to Cousins and the implications of benching him late in the season.
- Analysis of Cousins’ performance decline and the necessity for a change to secure a playoff spot.
- Fan reactions and the broader impact on team morale and future contracts.

5. Jeff Ma’s Weekly Picks and Betting Analysis (33:16 – 44:54)

Jeff Ma joins Tony to provide his weekly sports picks, focusing on both college and professional games. He discusses his strategies, including the principle of "process over outcome," and shares insights into specific matchups.

Tony Kornheiser (38:40):
“I like the phrase process over outcome. I like that it's called a rationalization...”
Jeff Ma (35:27):
“But you know, if you have too many World Series with the Arizona Diamondbacks and the Texas Rangers, you're going down the drain.”
Notable Bets:
- College:
  - Tennessee +7.5 over Iowa State
  - SMU +8.5 over Penn State and SMU over 54 points
- NFL:
  - Giants +8.5 over Dallas Cowboys
  - Bucks -4 over Dallas Cowboys
Discussion Highlights:
- Jeff's evaluation of betting lines and his confidence in underdog picks.
- The impact of nepotism and high-profile contracts on team decisions.
- Specific player performances influencing betting choices, such as Johnson and the quarterback dynamics.

6. Listener Emails and Mailbag (46:34 – 63:16)

In the latter part of the show, Tony engages with listener emails, sharing personal anecdotes and humorous stories submitted by fans. Topics range from travel tips and golf experiences to humorous family interactions and practical advice.

Notable Emails:
- Patrick from Woburn:
  A nostalgic account of golfing events and pub experiences during the Women's British Open.
- John from Colorado:
  Tips on driving routes and avoiding traffic when traveling between the D.C. area and Charlotte.
- Eric from Philadelphia:
  A humorous Christmas story involving a mix-up with Governor Bob Orr's phone call.
- Sally the Knitter:
  Solutions for combating moths with Trichogramma wasps, drawing from a New York Times Magazine article.
Tony’s Commentary:
- Tony (52:37):
  “These emails define the show to me.”
- He shares personal travel tips, golfing secrets, and relatable family stories, enhancing the show's personable and community-driven atmosphere.

7. Musical Interludes and Recurring Segments

Throughout the episode, Tony incorporates musical snippets and recurring segments that add a unique flavor to the show. This includes promotional reads and light-hearted musical introductions.

Dan Byrne’s Spin-off Chant (17:00 & 63:24):
A humorous chant criticizing Bill Belichick, accompanied by a catchy rhythm, emphasizing Tony’s critical stance.
Advertisements and Promotions:
While the summary omits detailed ad content, it's worth noting that sponsored segments seamlessly integrate with the show's flow, maintaining listener engagement.

8. Concluding Remarks and Final Thoughts (63:16 – End)

Tony wraps up the episode by reiterating key points, expressing gratitude towards guests and listeners, and briefly touching on ongoing sports narratives.

Tony Kornheiser (63:16):
“Never gonna happen. I used to hate the Cars for Kids commercial like everyone else. Then I discovered the song was deliberately written to be annoying...”
Final Highlights:
- Encouragement to keep engaging with the show and its community.
- A final play on words and shoutouts to notable guests and contributors.

Key Takeaways:

Sports Insights:
In-depth analysis of NFL and NBA dynamics, including team strategies, player performances, and league-wide trends.
Personal Anecdotes:
Tony’s relatable stories about fashion choices and personal experiences add a human touch to the discussions.
Interactive Engagement:
Listener emails and mailbag segments foster a sense of community and provide diverse perspectives on various topics.
Humor and Banter:
The show's light-hearted moments and humorous exchanges keep the content engaging and entertaining.

Notable Quotes:

Tony Kornheiser (08:31):
“It's the tie and the jacket. You have to have a different look.”
Tony Kornheiser (20:20):
“This is tremendously exciting. I don't like Bill Belichick personally, but the notion that Bill Belichick would go and take a college job... I think it's a front page story.”
Jason Lock and Fora (25:22):
“I saw it coming. I think it's silly on their part that the young man Penix didn't get a chance to sort of have a soft launch against Vegas.”

Conclusion:

“The Corduroy Suit Story” episode of The Tony Kornheiser Show offers a rich blend of sports analysis, personal storytelling, and community interaction. Tony’s engaging discussions with Jason Lock and Fora provide listeners with insightful perspectives on current NFL dynamics, while his personal anecdotes and listener interactions add depth and relatability. Whether you’re a sports enthusiast or new to the show, this episode delivers a comprehensive and entertaining experience.

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Transcript

Tony Kornheiser (0:00)

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Tony Kornheiser (1:16)

Previously on the Tony Kornheiser Show. It's too early. People want to watch football, okay? Like, the story of the NBA is very simple. Ten years ago, 12 years ago, people in the NBA sat down and said, let's. Let's do a whole blowout on Christmas. Yeah, at least.

Michael Wilbon (1:31)

At least we've got Christmas.

Tony Kornheiser (1:33)

Yeah, we got. Let's put five, six games on. Let's make people understand. People understand. And then the NFL, which didn't pay attention for a while, somebody went to the NFL at a meeting and said, are you guys aware what's happening on Christmas? Can we crush it? And they said, yeah, we'll crush it. The Tony Kornheiser show is on now. You can't compete with the NFL. You can't compete with college football. I mean, there's a story in the Washington Post today about how good this Emirates cup tournament is, except nobody's really watching it, you know? Well, a, it isn't very good to begin with. It isn't very good. And B, nobody's watching it and their ratings are way down. Way down. The NBA. Cause no one wants to consume entire games of the NBA. This is Wilbon's theory. They just want clips of the NBA. And so someone needs to ask Adam Silver the following. It's not even Adam Silver. You sort of want to ask ESPN and Turner and NBC and all these people bidding billions of dollars for the NBA, and Silver is selling it to them. You sort of want to ask, why are you doing this? If people aren't watching it, why are you doing this? Silver said the other day that the reason for the decline in the ratings is because cable television is down. Well, why did you sell the product to cable television? Why did you do. Nobody ever asked that question. Because most of the people who cover the NBA, or toadies, most of them just say, the NBA is great. Most of the people who cover everything are toadies. The reason they do is because they really like the sport. Yeah, but it's really. It's really noticeable with the NBA. It's really noticeable now.

Jason Lock and Fora (22:46)

Well, I wrote about it pretty extensively in the post a couple of weeks back, at which point a lot of the guys I talked to regularly in the league and who I bounced things off of, they're like, they got to do this now. Like, this should be happening now. And it's always easy for other people to say, but these people I'm talking to have been through iterations of this before where they had an old dog quarterback who they won a lot of games with, who, you know, clearly wasn't the same guy. But not everybody in the organization could see through the past as quickly as they Could. I've talked to people who drafted quarterbacks and that quarterback's not who we think he was going to be. And this backup looks pretty good and so they've lived it to some degree. I mean obviously no one's had quite this experience where you sign a guy to a megadeal and then draft somebody eighth overall or whatever, you know, six weeks later. So there's some uniqueness to this but nothing's entirely in a vacuum. And he played so poorly. That four game stretch to even where they're, you know, they had the buy in there like after the Chargers game that would have been it for a lot of people based on the production, based on the lack of a scheme fit, where it's clear this young coordinator wants his quarterback in the pistol all the time and he's not comfortable there. And he put him in the pistol twice as much this year as Cousins had been in it his entire career like. And again that career started in 2012 and we're sitting there in week 11 and you're asking to do something twice as many times as he's done it his entire career previously. And what he does best under center play action is no element in this offense and he doesn't, he looks like he's arm throwing and it looks like the arms dying because he's not quite pushing off the way he normally would. Then if, if you're beholden to some of this stuff then you need an athlete at the quarterback position who they're going to have to defend if pistol runs is going to make or break this thing. And that's what you think is best for Bijan Robinson. Then make them defend the quarterback in those pistol runs as well. So no, I saw it coming. I'm not surprised. I think it's silly on their part that the young man Penix didn't get a chance to sort of have a soft launch against Vegas. Now I get it Monday night, but it was a lesser Monday night game. You know, there's no Max Crosby. It's a toothless Raiders team that's going to fight for Antonio Pierce, but they lack a lot of talent. The quarterback on the other side, you know, has already crashed out in Atlanta. Like I don't know why they didn't start this process sooner. At least start running a Michael Pennock package two, three weeks prior Five times a game, eight times a game.

Tony Kornheiser (47:41)

That'll do it for us today. Before we get to the mailbag, let me just say it used to seem to me that my life ran too fast and I had to take it slowly just to make the good parts last. But when you're born to run, it's so hard to just slow down. So don't be surprised to see me back in the bright part of town I'll be back in the high life again all the doors I closed one time Will open up again I'll be back in the high life again all the eyes that watched me once Will smile and take me in that's Stevie Winwood. I love that song. I loved that. And it probably is autobiographical. Yeah, it probably is. Our thanks to Jason Lochinfour, Jeff Ma. Thanks as well to today's sponsors. Remember, you can listen to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Audacy. Get the show through Apple. Please leave us a review from Peter Potke. In Southington, Connecticut, which is right near Bristol, Connecticut, in a boardroom somewhere in corporate America, a meeting commenced with the opening remarks by a clearly disheartened CEO. Well, team, he began, our bricks and mortar retail business has yet another challenge. It has come to my attention that we lost another customer to a yoga joint. He paused. A yoga joint, he said loudly, slamming his hand on the boardroom table. There was an uncomfortable silence for a few seconds before a voice from the other end of the long table meekly said, maybe he can just use our website. The CEO sighed. Brilliant. Email. Okay. From Christopher Fitzpatrick, class of 1984, at Springbrook. On Monday's show, you mentioned a town in England named after no one called Milton Keynes. Wait, I know that town. I stayed in it from 1990 through 1996. The LPGA and LET held an event at Woburn. You played Woburn? I haven't you Woburn Golf and Country Club, which was near Milton Keynes. The event eventually became the Women's British Open, which is now a major in. Milton Keynes was a pub hotel called the Swan that still exists today. This is where myself and my fellow LPGA tour caddies would stay for the week of the tournament. The event was usually held around late July on a golf course with barely any grass and only the greens would get watered. So you wanted to work for a player who could hit a low hook that would run forever. The pub was always festive at night with the locals and the pub owner Larry welcoming us with arms filled with pints. The players would join us as well, depending on what score they were on and what tee time they had the next day. For a caddy, not so much. The best night was Wednesday, which was American Trivia night for the locals of Milton Keynes and any other Brits. The teams would be in groups of three and four and they would try to come up with the right answers of the history of a country that we kicked them out of eventually. As the night progressed, a system of adding a Yankee caddy to the team seemed to be bargained over, buying us a pint or two so we could help with the questions. We would stay in the rooms upstairs in the hotel so there was no Uber needed to get home safe. There was nothing better in the morning than to come back downstairs to the pub and sit in the same chair for the night before and have the classic English breakfast and triple caffeine laced coffee to get you out on the links for your loop that day. That's Christmas. Patrick, that's a great email, isn't it? Love that. Right?

Tony Kornheiser (52:58)

From Eric in Philadelphia While listening to the show today, the this was the other day I realized that I have my own Christmas themed Bobby Orr story to share. It's just not that Bobby Orr Robert D. Orr was the Governor of Indiana from 1981 to 1989. During that time, my father was an Indiana State Policeman assigned to the Governor's security detail. One aspect of the job that particularly irked my mother was that my father was rarely home for the big holidays as he was usually driving the governor around the state to various functions. One Christmas the phone rang and 8 year old me went to answer it. The only phone in the house was next to my parents bed and I just sat there chatting for what seemed like 10 minutes. My mother concluded this must be my father calling to tell her he would miss Christmas dinner again. Her anger grew as I chatted happily. Finally I yelled to the room, mom, the Governor's on the phone. He wants to talk to you. This is exactly the kind of joke my father would use to defuse the situation. So this only made her anger grow. She grabbed the phone from my hand and said in a too loud an irritated tone, what? On the other end of the line hi Carolyn, this is Bob War. I just wanted to apologize for taking Fred away from you today. He's on his way home now and we'll be there for dinner. My embarrassed mother thanked the governor, was even more thankful she did not utter the thoughts that were going through her head prior to taking the phone from me. A story that continues to delight our family and embarrass my mother. Eric in Philadelphia Brilliant. Lovely. Let's see what else we have here. John John Fitzpatrick in Colorado. Now maybe it's time to get some sweaters made out of Carol's cedar blocks. Those would fit good. Those would fit good. Sally the Knitter writes, I'm saddened to hear you have not solved the moth issue. Maybe you can access this New York Times Magazine article from November 26th. Headline is Moths were destroying my clothes. Tiny parasitic wasps saved them. Trichogramma wasps. They look like tiny black poppy seeds. Lay their eggs inside the moth eggs and destroy the larvae. You can order 12,000 eggs on Amazon for $10.33.

Tony Kornheiser (57:25)

Putting that in a special pile. Gary Van Giesen from the band Journey. Born and raised in South Detroit, not Detroit, but ironically there is no South Detroit. Just needed the extra syllable. Like DiMaggio, not Mantle and Mrs. Robinson. Of course, Journey is from Canada, so what would they know about the Midwest? Must have gone to school in North Scottsdale. From Bill Powell, Madison, NJ this note comes from the land of the mysterious drones, North New Jersey. Most folks find it disconcerting. There's no info on their origin and who's responsible, myself included. I took my dog for an early evening walk a couple of nights back. As we approached the house, there were a couple of neighbors gazing up at the sky, at the flashing light. Visitors. We chatted a bit about the phenomena and I threw out I wonder if they're hovering over Detroit. A pause resulted and I was asked about the hard E. I explained that Uncle Tony stated, all things music have Detroit with a hard E. My neighbors know I'm a fan with several letters read. One neighbor said, you have the makings of another letter. So here I am. Bill Powell Madison, New Jersey let's see this. Taddeo Latinsky Rossiter in the Palisades neighborhood, which I know well in Washington, D.C. as a fellow French horn player trick or treating, I had no idea that Chuck Todd was a musician as a hobby until I listened to the pod. I agree with them that the embrasure can get temporarily weakened after a long period of time not playing. I find that if I take a few weeks or even a few months off, it takes me a week to get back to playing comfortably. Then again, I practice five days a week in original in addition to piano and playing the French horn, or as we simply call it, we call it simply horn in the Mount Vernon Community Band in Mount Vernon, Virginia. Sounds like Chuck has not played in many years. On the same topic from Steve the Sycophant Chuck Todd's remarks about his embrasure problems while playing the French horn struck a chord, pun intended, in my heart. As a trumpet player for more than 70 years, I felt my embrasure slowly deteriorate from its peak when I was in my twenties. Screeching high notes are a thing of the distant past, and I envy the stringed instrument players and pianists who, if they avoid arthritis and the like, can roll in on their 80s and beyond. Last weekend, after playing back to back Christmas concerts, I could have sucked a lemon without puckering up a bit. And by the way, my hat is off to Mr. Todd, as playing a French horn requires not only a strong embrasure but the ability to force a lot of air into that instrument. One of my band directors, a French horn player par excellence, got a hernia while straining to hit a high note. Happy holidays to brass instrument musicians everywhere. From Josh Cromwell, Moselle, Mississippi, I can confirm that there is no Rockville in Mississippi. We have a Laurel, a Louisville, a Philadelphia, and even a Hot Coffee. Hot Coffee, Mississippi, but no Rockville. Happy to supply this information for life. Michael Benedetti in San Tan Valley, Arizona. You think watching the agency is confusing? Try watching it the way my dad does you see? We share several streaming accounts and my dad is unburdened by technology comprehension. Each time he watches a show, he picks up where I left off, no matter what episode he's supposed to be on. And each time this results in a phone call. The next day when my dad, utterly confused and accident accidentally revealed some spoilers. Come on, dad, what are we even doing? That's funny. That's good. From David Bradley in Sterling, Virginia. If the heat pump repair guy says he'll show up between 11am 3pm and he doesn't get there until 3:15pm, is he really only 15 minutes late? From Brian Sunox in St. Petersburg, Florida. Do you have Netflix? If you do see Christmas Day at one for Chiefs and Steelers game is it's on Netflix?

Tony Kornheiser (61:08)

Yeah. From Reese in London. I'm not surprised. Camels spit at you. If you call them and I quote, funny looking, I probably would too. Seasons greetings from Scott Moffitt in Richmond, Virginia. Chuck Todd. Mentioning Fuzzy Zeller reminded me of my interaction with Fuzzy. I was at a master's practice round when I saw Fuzzy heading to the driving range. I told him we love seeing him on the pga. Played Kingsmill in Williamsburg. I played that course. He stopped, looked over and said, that was a fun tournament. Always hot as hell, tons of free beer. Michael Lewis. Not that Michael Lewis in Atlanta, Georgia. I finally have my David Aldrich moment. Well, listen to you and Chuck Todd extol the merits of Michael Lewis. I thought to myself, wait, I know that guy. It's me. Only after he discussed his books and many awards did I realize it was the other Michael Lewis. And my only claim to fame was I attended Corporate Quarry Bank High School in Liverpool. Never mind. Maybe my emails will win a Pulitzer. From Greg Spinelli in McLean, Virginia. Chuck and Roxy. Never gonna happen. I used to hate the Cars for Kids commercial like everyone else. Then I discovered the song was deliberately written to be annoying. I have a newfound respect for it now. I thought that fact might appeal to you. In Topeka, Kansas, I caught your PTI intro and you were talking about Scooter's Coffee Frisco bowl and heard you asked a question. What is Scooters? Coffee Scooters is a coffee franchise here around Kansas City and the Topeka areas. First time I saw one was in Lawrence, Kansas, home of the Jayhawks. Although they're known for their coffee drinks and whatnot. We took a big liking to the smoothies they offer, such as peach, strawberry, strawberry, banana and other varieties of players. They also have these wonderful cake bites with many different flavors as well. We usually go and always get scooters after my son's basketball games. He had a buzzer beater at the end of the first half in one of his games and stood up and yelled, scooters. And he knew he was gonna get a very nice treat from scooters on the way home right after he did it. They ended up winning the game as well. Love the show. Don't ever stop, you know, unless you want to. I get that. Billy Teeters and Topeka, Kansas, if you're out on your bike. Time. To everyone, as always, do wear white Laws in gain Copper Walk. It's all right.