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Tony Kornheiser
Hey, it's Tony. On today's show we'll get Andy Byers thoughts on the Belmont Stakes. We'll talk to Tim Legler about the Pacers thrilling win over the Thunder in game one of the NBA Finals. But first, how about some commerce?
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Unknown Announcer
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Tony Kornheiser
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Michael
He still had the Styrofoam plates.
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Tony Kornheiser
He had enough Styrofoam plates. Yeah, from the meteor. Enough Styrofoam plates to build an arc. That's how many he had. The Tony Kornheiser show is on now. Alrighty. So I sat down to watch the Nats last night. They started at 6:45. The game before against the Cubs was a great game. It was really a great game. Pitchers duel was really, really a good game.
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Michael
Finally, some run support.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, the Nats won. What would they get, three runs or something? Yeah. That's a lot for the Nats last night. It was over early. Jake Irvin, apparently, Kolko was saying this before the game. Jake Irvin apparently has the worst ERA in the world. In the first inning, he pitches and he gave up two last night, you know, and it just. It drove me crazy. And then if the Nats got very, very few hits, but when they did get a hit, they were thrown out at second. Hassell was thrown out at second, Abrams was thrown out at second, and they were thrown out.
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Michael
The one guy who was not thrown out at second is the one who should have been. Josh Bell late in the game, weighs.
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Tony Kornheiser
300 pounds and shouldn't be able to get the second. But it's. So was a bad game. I bring it up only. And I got off the game in the sixth inning. I bring it up only because, Michael, you were at the game.
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Michael
Beautiful night for a baseball game. And yes, you're walking down to your seats and you see PCA take it out of the park and you go, well, it's going to be hard to come back from that one. And then you start to do a deep dive into how many home runs he has with runners in scoring position.
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Tony Kornheiser
Do you know that his parents are actors?
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Michael
Really?
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Tony Kornheiser
Do you know where he went to high school?
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Unknown Guest
I don't know that, but it's Harvard Westlake.
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Michael
Harvard Westlake is an incubator for baseball players, but mostly pitchers.
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Tony Kornheiser
Every pitcher. Well, the Flaherty went there, Giolito went there, Max Freed went there and. And Crow. And his parents are actors, apparently.
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Unknown Guest
Well, the mother I know was an actor because she was in the movie. The Little Big Leaguer played the mother of the kid who inherits The Minnesota Twins or something like that.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah.
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Unknown Guest
So it's great that her son's now.
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Tony Kornheiser
An actual ball player and a good one.
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Unknown Guest
Good one, yes.
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Tony Kornheiser
You don't think that's going to happen. You don't think that someone who comes from that is going to be a major league player.
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Michael
And you look at what the Cubs bullpen has done over the last three weeks. So you try, and I guess you're trying to stretch some of those runners into scoring position. But at the game, you could see them out from a mile. And Abrams early is not even. Not even looking to the dugout.
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Tony Kornheiser
Just quietly walks back, picks his body up and leaves. Sometimes they stay out there and they go, you know, look at the.
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Unknown Guest
Yeah, take them.
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Michael
Peacock a little bit. No, and this was one they. Your point about the hits? There was a lot of hard hit balls. If you look at James Wood in particular, he had three balls off the bat over 100 miles an hour. They were all caught and he went 0 for 4. And the one that wasn't was at 97 point something.
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Tony Kornheiser
Alex call is killing it. He lives in hard luck. Alex calls killing it and guys go back in right center and they catch the ball. It doesn't drop, but everything Jake Irvin throws, drops, gets hit right through the infield and it drops. And I don't know. So. So I gave up on that. And so I'm not going to. But you had a good time, right?
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Michael
Again, beautiful night for a baseball.
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Tony Kornheiser
Stay till the end.
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Michael
Yeah, stay through the end. The best part about these 645s is before you know it, you start to look up. And last night was a bit of a slower pace, but it is such an easy way to watch a baseball game.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, it's very, very nice.
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Unknown Guest
Did you play the nines game?
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Michael
I don't think I would be here today if I attempted the nines game.
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Tony Kornheiser
What is the nines?
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Unknown Guest
Nine beers and nine hot dogs.
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Tony Kornheiser
Oh, no, that's insane.
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Michael
I think the hot dogs is. Okay.
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Tony Kornheiser
100% French Open news. We don't do much with the French Open. We don't. Who are we going to call? John McEnroe? We're not. You know, Mary Carrillo, John McEnroe.
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Michael
You can make that. You can make that request once or twice a summer, right?
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, I'd rather do it at the US Open or Wimbledon or something like that. I mean, and we could call. I could call McEnroe. I mean, he would get on the phone.
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Unknown Guest
It would be great to get him on at some point.
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Tony Kornheiser
Get on the phone. I mean, but I don't know. Sabalenka is going to play. See, if Boisson had won that match yesterday. A girl is ranked 361st in the world. As I said the other day on television, there are dead people ranked ahead of her. If she were to win that. She's French, of course. Yeah, that's a really big deal. It's like when Virginia Wade won a million years ago in England. Our Ginny, you know. Okay, but she didn't win. Coco gauff steamrolled. Or 1 and 2. What was. So There was nothing there. And Djokovic, I hate Djokovic, as everybody knows. I just don't. I don't like him. But I got up off the couch the other night when he won and I literally applauded him because if he, if he wins. Look, I don't think he's going to beat Sinner. I don't know. Sinner has won 19 straight major matches, including the final at the US Open and the final at the Australian Open. Now, is there a reason to hate him? Because you think he's a cheat? Because you think he used steroids? Okay, if that's what you think, I mean, that's fine. He got a very light slap on the wrist, basically. But he's also going for the Grand Islam. He's got two in a row. Yeah, I don't think Djokovic is going to beat him. But if Djokovic beats him, and then Djokovic would most likely play Alcaraz. And if Djokovic wins this tournament, it's going to be one of the three to five, if not the one greatest run ever in taste. 38. Yeah, he's 38. Zverev was, is 28. So that's 10 years. These other two kids are 22 and 23. It's 15 years. And they, you know, on clay you can run a guy around the points. Go for a while in clay, you can get a sandwich during a point on clay, so you can, you can tire out a 38 year old. So if he wins, it'd be fabulous. And I do. We really. Did we really need someone to say that? No, you know, so we didn't. So we're not gonna have that. So the biggest news, though, the biggest news of the sporting day was not the NBA championship.
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Michael
First, first game, 0.3 seconds.
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Tony Kornheiser
It's not. I know, it's great because Halliburton, of course, as we know, the most overrated player in the world, except he beats everybody, except all the time. More than any other player in the league. Okay, so we'll get to that. Tim Legler will be on. We'll get to that. Now the biggest news. Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers is, has, is going to or has signed with the Steelers. We learned of this yesterday. About three o' clock. 3:30? Yeah, something like that. So, you know, you don't have a lot of time to do a lot of work on that. So you just, as we say in the newspaper business, it's rip and read. You just go out and have an immediate reaction to that. Most people's reaction to Aaron Rodgers is he's done. What are you doing? Why are the Steelers doing this? The Steelers. Michael, you used the word culture earlier in the day, talking to me about the Steelers culture and Mike Tomlin. And so maybe there's some fear. Mike Tomlin's on his last legs and he's doing this to be desperate. I don't think that at all. I don't think he's on his last legs. He's never had a losing season. I think he's sitting in a division where there's Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow, and he's looking at Mason Rudolph because they knew that Russell Wilson was done. He lost like the last five games. He stinks now. He was a great player. He's not anymore. Kenny Pickett, they got rid of Kenny Pickett, even though he was a hometown kid, went to Pittsburgh. Kenny Pickett isn't any good. Kenny Pickett's fighting to make the roster in Cleveland, I believe, at the moment.
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Unknown Guest
I think so, yeah.
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Tony Kornheiser
So why. Why, if you're Mike Tomlin, do you hire Aaron Rodgers? Because Mike Tomlin is the longest tenured coach in the NFL right now, with the same team he's been there for. Right. At 19 or 20 years at Pittsburgh. Aaron Rodgers, his entire career has been looked at by Mike Tomlin. They didn't have to compete much because one was in the National Conference and one was in the American Conference. They didn't have to compete much at all. But he watched him. Watched him win a lot of playoff games, watched him win a Super Bowl. He probably doesn't think Mason Rudolph can do that. And Mason Rudolph probably can't do that. He watched Russell Wilson do that, but he saw Russell Wilson up close last year. So the question becomes, what does Aaron Rodgers have left? Now, it is fashionable to look at Aaron Rodgers right now and say he has become a jerk. Like Terry Bradshaw basically said he has become a jerk. And we, the Steelers shouldn't be Involved with him. Okay. This is a Wilbon position. This is, it's, it's a position of preponderance. It is, you know, isn't Bradshaw say.
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Unknown Guest
Something like, stay bark.
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Tony Kornheiser
Go eat bark. Stay in California and eat bark. Which is why I said yesterday, I wonder at the first training table who's going to give him a plate of bar? Because that would be funny. That would be funny.
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Michael
Be a great gift to the line.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah. So, so you can say all that and you can, you know, he's involved, the anti vax stuff and he's, he, he has his toes in water he probably doesn't belong in. And he's an extraordinarily self centered human being. And there will be problems with Aaron Rodgers. Mike Tomlin probably thinks, I've been in this league 20 years. I've won a Super bowl too. I know what I'm doing. I can get to Aaron Rodgers on a level that other younger coaches can't, that the guy at the jets couldn't. Couldn't. I can. I'm older. I know what I'm doing here. And that's what I think he sees. I think he looks at some film from the jets and says, you know, I mean, I understand everybody thinks Aaron Rodgers is a jerk, but he can still, he can still throw it a little bit. He can still throw it. So that's why I think he hired Aaron Rodgers. He doesn't have anybody else. You're skeptical, Michael.
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Michael
I'm just skeptical because of the big criticism with Tomlin is winning the playoff games, not necessarily piling up the regular season record. My favorite part about this is Steelers Week 1 at the Jets.
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Tony Kornheiser
At the jets, yeah. So you'll see what Rodgers has. If Rodgers has anything. Yeah. You know, and people, you know, people will say, well, he didn't even show up. He should have showed up at the OTAs. It's just not what he does. No, he's 41. It's not what he does. He knows what he can do. Now. Do they have any receivers? They traded away George Pickens, who was probably their best receiver, who Tomlin didn't like, you know, because he was, he. Tomlin thought he was much too much of an egotist, so they got rid of him. I don't know. I don't know what they've got. I know they're in a really tough division. I know that Cincinnati and Baltimore are really good and Cleveland's not bad. You know, Cleveland has quarterback problems of its own, but Cleveland is not bad. They won some games last Year. Once you get desean Watson out of the picture, you're in a better shape. And Deshaun Watson continues to tear his acl. Right. Like, he's done it twice now. The same one. Yeah. So he's never played again?
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Unknown Guest
No, I think so.
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Tony Kornheiser
What they should say to him is, here is a bus ticket to Alaska to, like, enjoy yourself. Yeah. There's a condo waiting for you in Juneau, but get out of here.
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Unknown Guest
But I forgot the. The Steelers did sign DK Metcalf.
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Tony Kornheiser
Okay. He. Well, he was. He was great.
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Unknown Guest
He was great. So we'll see real fast. Yeah. As a potential target for, you know, So.
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Tim Legler
I don't know.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah. I mean, I am not. I will just summarize it by saying I am not as antagonistic towards this as many people. Wilbon would. If he was on the show yesterday, he would have just destroyed Aaron Rodgers. That would have been funny.
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Unknown Guest
Yeah.
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Tony Kornheiser
But I would have not been able to get my bark line in because he would have kept talking. All right, so we have Tim Legler and we have Andy Beyer. Who do we have first?
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Unknown Guest
Andy Byer.
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Tony Kornheiser
Andy Beyer with a preview of the Belmont. And we'll all try and do Byer impersonations when we come back. I'm Tony Kornheiser. This is the Tony Kornheiser Show. Pivotal moments in sports history come from seizing opportunities. Like when Joe Montana went down with an injury in Super Bowl 19 and a little known backup named Anthony Irwin. Kornheiser came into the game, led the 49ers to victory. All right, that may have never happened, but you get the idea. When life gives you an opportunity, you have to make the most of it. And that's true in business as well. But businesses need quick access to capital to actually make those moves. Revenod offers the fast, flexible funding that allows small business owners to make a play when opportunity presents itself. Unlike traditional lenders, where you're often forced into borrowing a lump sum and then paying fees tied to the entire amount, the Revenued flex line lets you draw only the amount you need when you need it, and you only pay for what you use. Unlike banks, revenood approves businesses based on revenue, not your personal credit score. You can get access to up to $250,000 in as fast as one business day. And there are no application fees, no draw fees, no maintenance fees, just a clear upfront cost. And don't just take my word for it. More than 10,000 business owners use revenued to power through uncertainty. And revenued is Rated Excellent on Trustpilot with over 9005 star reviews. Apply now at userevenued.com that's Use Revenue Revenue with a D dot com. Apply today and be ready for whatever comes next. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser Show. You've heard me talk about Collars and company, makers of the amazing dress collar polo. Well, now they've taken things to the next level with their brand new maverick performance blazer. And you have to check this out. These blazers are sharp, perfect for travel. Why? Because they're wrinkle resistant. Just throw it in your bag. When you get to your destination, slip it back on. No wrinkles, no stress. Finally, no more figuring out how to travel with a blazer. And it's not just about convenience. The Mavic performance blazer is made with stretch fabric so you can move comfortably all day long. Plus it's packed with smart features, inside security, zip pockets, a built in optional pocket square, and even a sunglasses loop. While you're at it, pair the blazer with The Collars & Co. Famous Dress Collar polos. They've already sold over a million of these comfortable polos with the signature dress collar on top. So Visit Collars and co.com use the promo code Tony for 20% off today. Use the code, people. That should send me one of these. Yeah, I'd like to see this. A non wrinkle blazer. Yeah, because then I don't have to carry a steamer around with me all the time. This is the Tony Kornheiser show. These are our friends Mission Road. Paulie Coconuts is in that band. And they're having their debut live at the CMA Fest on Friday, June 6th. They'll be at the Backyard Poets, right in Mount Juliet, Tennessee. And the KG KJG Media Showcase. Saturday. They'll be at Wicked Ollie's Antiques. Anyway, they'll be at all these places Sunday morning at the Grand Ole Opry House. Wow.
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Unknown Guest
Seems like a good venue.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, that is a good venue. This is Mitt. They are now called Mission Road. And what is the name of this one?
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Unknown Guest
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Tony Kornheiser
Ride on the Wind. Okay. Wonderful. Christopher Cross had a song called Ride on the Wind. That's right, he did, yeah. It plays in Andy Byer because we're going to talk about the Belmont. If I recall correctly, Andy, you had journalism in the Preakness and the Derby. You like journalism, right? So you are one for two. Are you looking forward to seeing him race against sovereignty? Who beat him in the slop in the Derby.
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Andy Beyer
I am. I'm very psyched up for this Belmont Stakes. I think it's. I think this has been a really good Triple Crown series, and I think this could be a memorable race.
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Tony Kornheiser
Do you want to be. Look, I mean, one of the storylines here, if we were still writing, would be, Bill Mott doesn't run his horse Sovereignty in the Preakness. If he were to win this and win two of the three legs, would he be applauded, Andy, or would he be criticized for not going for the whole thing?
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Andy Beyer
There's a variety of opinions on this issue. I mean, a lot of people feel the trainer has to do what's right for his horse, and you're not entitled to second guess him, especially when the trainer is somebody as esteemed as Mott. I feel that unless the horse has a physical issue, that in a situation like this, you're supposed to go for the Triple Crown. I mean, this is a sport. I mean, this would be like a football player saying, oh, I got a little headache today, or I don't really feel like playing. I won't play in the Super Bowl. I think that trainers owe an obligation to the sport to make it as good as it can be rather than just subvert its big event.
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Tony Kornheiser
I agree with that. I think he should go. And if I understand this correctly, everybody in racing knew he wasn't going to go before the Kentucky Derby was run, that if he won, he was not going to go in the Preakness, and the ownership didn't care about the Preakness. And I think the word subvert is a very fair word because I think the Triple Crown is that thing that connects the public to horse racing. And if you just abandon it like that, I think you should be criticized. But you're saying that a lot of people won't do it.
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Andy Beyer
Yeah, and I understand the other point of view, but I just. Let's say I have criticized Mott since that decision. And, you know, and he's somebody I have an enormous amount of respect for. He's one of the real good guys in racing. But I think you have to feel an obligation to the sport as a whole in a situation like that.
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Tony Kornheiser
So let me get to the strategy in this race. You are used to the Belmont being run at Belmont park, over a mile and a half with wide turns. This is at Saratoga with narrow turns, and it's a mile and a quarter. Does the track itself play a part in the strategy of the horses?
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Andy Beyer
I don't think so. I mean, these horses in the Derby they both ran a mile and a quarter. They both ran very well. You know, I've never been a lover of the mile and a half distance of the Belmont just because of modern day American horses aren't bred to go that far on the dirt. It's kind of an anomaly, you know, whereas a mile and a quarter is, you know, is within everybody's scope. So I'm just as happy to see it be a mile and a quarter.
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Tony Kornheiser
If people are purists about the Triple Crown, do they discount the horses that win the Belmont at Saratoga and not at Belmont?
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Andy Beyer
No, I don't think they will. I mean, it's. It's. I mean, this is going to be a. I think a very tough, hotly contested race. And, you know, any. Whoever wins this race is most likely going to get heaped with a justifiable amount of praise.
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Tony Kornheiser
Okay. Well, I mean, those of us who followed it to this point and saw Sovereignty beat Journalism in the Derby and skip the Belmont and Journalism come back with a very strong race, there's a tendency, I think, that we sort of think of this as a match race. It's not a match race. There's seven or eight other horses in this. In this thing. Or do you, Andy, do you. Does it set up in your mind as one horse against the other and the other and the other?
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Andy Beyer
Well, there are actually three horses in here who are. Who are bonafide contenders. I mean, the other one is. Is Baeza, who. I mean, we. It's easy to overlook him, but in the Kentucky Derby, he was only beaten by a length and three quarters, so the top three were all within reasonable, striking distance of winning the race. So Baez is the number three horse, but let's say if he pulled the upset, the world would not be shocked.
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Tony Kornheiser
All right, this is the Moment of Truth Handicap, the race. Who you betting on and why?
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Andy Beyer
Well, you know, this is unusual for me, but I feel kind of an emotional attachment here to Journalism. I thought that his performance in the Preakness was one of the most electrifying efforts I've seen by any horse in years.
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Tony Kornheiser
The way he caught the other horses and passed them, and he had no time to go, no time did it right.
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Andy Beyer
He. At, you know, at the. I mean, 1 16th of a mile from the. From the finish line, he was slightly more than three lengths behind. I mean, an absolutely hopeless position. And his rally in those final yards was just one of the. You know, just one of the most scintillating performances I've ever seen. Now, you can look you look back at the Kentucky Derby and I give Sovereignty full credit. I mean, he, you know, I mean, he in journalism had equal shots at winning the Derby and Sovereignty beat Journalism fair and square. But I was just so taken by Journalism's Preakness performance. And also I would say Journalism, I mean, Journalism really has quite a record. I mean, except for his Derby loss. I mean, every other race, all the other distance races he's run have been extremely good. Sovereignty is one real claim to fame was the Kentucky Derby and that was in the slop. So we don't know if that might have moved him up. I don't know. I mean, but, you know, I just think that Journalism is an exceptional horse and I want to see him show that on Saturday.
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Tony Kornheiser
Will you do any boxes? Will you do any triples?
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Andy Beyer
It doesn't really look like a much of a betting race to me. I mean, Journalism and Sovereignty are both going to be, going to be short prices. I don't think there's anything clever you can do in here except just enjoy the race. So I'll enjoy it and I'll be rooting for Journalism, but without much or any financial interest.
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Tony Kornheiser
Thank you, Andy. Thanks, Andy. Enjoy the race.
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Andy Beyer
Thanks, Tony.
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Tony Kornheiser
Andy Beyer, boys and girls. And again, if you think, well, why do you get Andy Byer on? There's something that everybody uses when they try to do handicapping of horse races. They're called the Byer Speed Figs. They're called the Byer Speed Figs because Andy invented them. Okay, we will take a break. Tim Legler when we return. I'm Tony Kornheiser.
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Tony Kornheiser
Once again, this is Mission Road with our friend Paulie Coconuts playing in the band. This is a song called Take My Hand and they will be available in Nashville, Tennessee, June 2nd through 8th. They'll be playing every place you can play in Nashville. Mission Road. Take My Hand. Michael, if you people like Mission Road want to send in their original music for us to play, how do they do it?
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Michael
Send us your music by emailing it to jinglesonycornizershow.com It's a pretty good band.
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Unknown Guest
They're very good. I think Paulie wanted me to remind everyone that all their music is available on all streaming services. So yeah, check them out. Mission route.
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Tony Kornheiser
They play in Tim Legler. And the first question is, it would have been the same if Indiana lost. It's the same question is, what, if anything, did we learn from last night? And I know that you know the history of the NBA. There's a lot of teams that have won game one and that's the only game they've ever won. I think Allen Iverson was in that situation against the Lakers one year and I think Michael Jordan faced that, you know, lost a game early and then swept a team. I'm not trying to say that Oklahoma City shouldn't be worried at all, but. But when you watch that game and you see that result, what do you learn?
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Tim Legler
Well, a couple of things I think, first of all, and it's not really learning about Indiana, but I think it just continues to reiterate and pound the point. It's a dangerous team because of their ability, the number of guys they have that can shoot the basketball. And so they're, they're never really out of it until you put them away. And Oklahoma City didn't put them away. So I don't think we learned that about Indiana. But again, it was a moment of a reminder for all of us. You know, I'm sitting there taking notes, getting ready to go on postgame with, with Scott Van pelt and obviously 90% of the things I was writing down and putting like tapes together and stuff were all Oklahoma City based sure. Because. Because you know, that happened, that turned around in about a five minute period. So, you know, for all of us, it's again, you kind of just go, this team, like you've got to make sure they are put away. The door is shut and a lock is put on it because the doors open at all, they can kick it in. So. So that's just one thing that was kind of reinforced. But then on the other side of it, I think for Oklahoma City, I think one of the things that you kind of look at that and go, there were some guys that really struggled in that game. And so you don't know was it, was it the final stage, you know, was a absolute non factor in the game. I don't remember for myself writing his name down in my notes or talking about Chad Holmgren at all. Jalen Williams really struggled the entire game. So you're talking about your second to third best player on that team. Really just had no impact offensively. And so I kind of look at that and say, okay, well, I'm not saying that's how it's going to go for them, but at the same time, like, they have to be much better in Game 2. And it's something obviously going into the game I'm going to be looking for, do they look comfortable? Because it's still a very, very young team, prohibitive favorite to win this series playing at home. There's a lot of pressure at home to start a series. You want to start out the right way. And when that started to slip away, I saw a lot of tentativeness on the part of Oklahoma City. Other than Shea, Gilgis, Alexander, everybody else looked tentative that they didn't know exactly what to do to stop this. They wanted the clock to run out and that's not the way you win NBA games.
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Tony Kornheiser
So I mean, everybody before the first game is asked, who do you think will win? And you don't have to be a genius here. One team had 68 wins, one team had 50 wins when they played the two times they played. Oklahoma City won those games and in one of those games held Halliburton to four points. And Oklahoma City has reputedly, by the numbers, the best defense in the league. And in fact, during the regular season put up more points on average than Indiana, 120 to 117. So, I mean, I think it is totally legitimate to, before the series starts, look at Oklahoma City as a team that can win in four or five games. And then what you have on the other side, Tim, is the great series that Indiana had against Cleveland. Cleveland had 64 wins. Indiana beat them 4 to 1. Won two games in Cleveland. Right. You know, or three games in three games in Cleveland, I guess. And, and did. When. If I would have asked you yesterday, prior to this, who do you like in this series, what would you have said?
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Tim Legler
I. I've been 10 on the record. Oklahoma. Oklahoma City in six games. You know, I always look at kind of how you pick the number of games you look at a series. Obviously, if you say sweep, you know, you don't think the other team even has a reason to be on the court with that team. Five games. I usually feel like you're almost saying the same thing, but you're trying to be careful, not disrespect the other team. If you say six or seven, I think then you're thinking, I think there's going to be a competitive series. Ultimately, though, Oklahoma City, their defense at the right times in games will be the difference because they, I watched it all year. I think I called, I don't know, probably five or six Oklahoma City games. And at some point in just about every one of those games, they hit you with this barrage of defense that triggers all of these opportunities go in the other direction. And so I figured six games because I have a lot of faith in Indiana's offense. And they're also, by the way, a very good defensive team. And that played into it last night because I think we were so enamored with Oklahoma City's defense. Indiana has been an incredible defense for three or four months and that is what kept their head above water until they could make some threes. And so that played into it last night and I believed it. I also have a lot of faith in Rick Carlisle. I just think he's a great coach. So I thought six games, Tony, the biggest thing last night that did not happen for Oklahoma City, that happens almost every night they play. They forced the turnovers, like at a historic rate, by the way. Indiana had 20 turnovers.
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Tony Kornheiser
First half. Yeah, first half, 20.
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Tim Legler
The difference. They only led to nine points going the other direction, typically Oklahoma City, they're getting a point to a point and a half per point on a turnover. You turn a ball over 20 times against them, that's normally 30 points going the other direction. If that had happened last night, obviously you have a 30, 25, 30 point game at halftime, the game's over. Yeah, they didn't convert. And some of it was. Indiana was incredibly determined to get back ahead of the ball when they turned it over. So give them credit Some of that was just sheer effort. Oklahoma City, if you go back and look at the film, Oklahoma City probably failed to convert five or six opportunities with numbers and an advantage in the open court, where they missed an open 3 or they missed like a running layup that looks like it's, you know, an automatic shot. They did not do that. So they were not punishing the Pacers the way that they typically punish teams when you get, when you're that loose with the ball. And we all knew it at halftime, still thought Oklahoma City was going to win the game. But I was definitely taking a note of that, like, they're not. They're not turning this into points. So Indiana was able to stick around mainly because of that.
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Tony Kornheiser
Do you think that if you're a player on Oklahoma City, you're a young player. Obviously they have the youngest team in the league. Not that Indiana is that much older and Indiana is not any more experienced in a final. But do you think if you're a player at Oklahoma City, this game gives you doubt?
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Tim Legler
I think they're a little bit rattled, to be honest with you. And again, you know, looking at them in the fourth quarter like the last, especially last six, seven minutes of the game and just being so unsure, you know, there's a certainty that that team has played with all year and, and they're really, you know, the best way to describe them, they're really kind of a bully team. Like, they, they sense something in you and they are going for the kill because they have incredible team speed. The way they swarm to the ball defensively, and then they just take it and go, and it's a track meet. And they, they do. They bully you and they're cruel in a lot, in a lot of ways in which they play. I didn't see that last night when that game, when that leaves was slipping, I saw a team that looked unsure of themselves. And again, was that just. First game in the finals, you know, this team won, you said 68 games. Season, they're now 80. They won 80 games. You know, if you count the three rounds of the postseason, their record at.
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Tony Kornheiser
Home going into last Night's game was 43 and 7. They were monsters at home. Monsters.
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Tim Legler
Yeah. And they've, They've. They've, I think, the fourth most wins ever going into the finals the team has had. So, you know, I'm not, I'm not saying this is going to continue. I still think they're going to win the series.
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Tony Kornheiser
Right.
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Tim Legler
But I certainly have a lot more reason to doubt that today. Than I did last night with about nine minutes left in the game.
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Tony Kornheiser
Not only were the players new to this stage, so was their coach. The other guy has won one of these things in Dallas. He's been to this before. He's been around a long time time. Rick Carlisle, so long that I covered him in college when he was at Virginia. Is that an advantage, a tangible advantage or is it, am I overrating it?
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Tim Legler
No, I think it's an advantage. And look, I think Mark Egnalt would probably admit that like the guys won a championship. And not only did he win a championship, he wanted under circumstances in which he was playing a team that people thought was unbeatable. Yeah, they beat them. So and that's kind of what you got here. This is a team that looks like, I mean all year, it's their year, like this team is too good, they're too deep, their defense is too much. So you're playing this team. You know the betting odds going into this thing, I mean it just absolutely one sided.
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Tony Kornheiser
So yes, yes.
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Tim Legler
He's kind of got the same circumstances like we're playing this team that like is unbeatable. And so you got Rick Carlisle of all people sitting there coaching it. So yeah, I do think it matters. You know one thing Tony, I'm glad you asked this question because we not hear anybody really talking about it last night. You know, Mark Dagnal changed his starting lineup going into the game. That, that to me and I knew they couldn't play two bigs as much right this series because Indiana is a five out team. They're a three point based face up drive off the dribble team. So you're not going to play two big as much against that. But to, to do that before the game, I don't know, I thought it was kind of strange. I thought, you know, start the same lineup you've been starting and just put.
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Tony Kornheiser
Somebody in in four minutes and then.
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Tim Legler
Go in five minutes put in a smaller guy. But you know what I'm saying, it was almost like a little bit like we have to adjust to them. And you're the team that has 68 wins. You're at home. You know, I felt it was a little bit of an overreaction and in some ways it's Mark Daignall going through this for the first time.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, that makes sense to me. I'll just ask one more. I'm amazed. I've been talking about this for a month or a month and a half now. That survey that said by NBA players that tyrese Halliburton is the most overrated player in the league. This is the fourth playoff team he has hit a shot on in the last second of the game. Is. Is he still regarded as overrated?
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Tim Legler
I would like to personally interview them FBI style. Each person, get them in a room who voted that and try to get to the bottom of how they could possibly come up with that conclusion. There's a long list of guys since that you would. That you would come up with before you get Tyrus Halliburton in that particular category. I got a number for you. This was incredible, and I heard it last night. So in the last 15 seconds of games to take to make a shot that either ties the game or gives you the lead in this postseason, the rest of the NBA players are 4 for 27 in those situations, and Tyrese Halliburton is 5 for 5.
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Tony Kornheiser
I mean, overrated. Stop. It's got to be personal. Somebody's got to think, I hate this guy.
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Tim Legler
I think that's. That's got to be a personal thing. You're 100% right. There got to be something personal there.
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Tony Kornheiser
Ridiculous.
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Tim Legler
The one thing is, you know, he's amazing because he can be quiet relatively and still do that at the end.
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Tony Kornheiser
At the end, because, yeah, he didn't have 40 points last night. He had 14 points. That's all he had. So. Anyway, all right, enjoy. Give my best to Scott and we'll talk again. Thanks for waking up. Thank you.
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Tim Legler
You got it, Tony.
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Tony Kornheiser
Tim Legler, boys and girls. Fabulous. We will come back with email and jingle. I am Tony Cornhole. When you're on the go and it's time to refresh your energy, grab an ice cold Celsius where zero sugar, seven essential vitamins, and proven ingredients meet pure refreshment. Unlike traditional energy drinks, each sip of Celsius is a perfect balance of flavor and function. So whether you're hitting the gym, the office, or your next adventure, grab a Celsius Celsius at your local retailer or visit Celsius.com to learn more.
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Unknown Announcer
You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show.
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Tony Kornheiser
Total sucker for banjos. Yeah. Love banjos, right? Thanks to Joe and Molly Chambers for playing banjos and singing for us. You want to do the Bethesda bagel ad? Yes.
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Unknown Guest
Bethesda bagels.
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Tony Kornheiser
We love the day for Chris Cullen. Does he get more bagels than he thought when he walked in here?
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Unknown Guest
Bonus bagels. Yes. Bethesda bagels. We love a mule as well. Just go to Bethesda Bagels, dot Com for the location in the DC area nearest you. Then pop one in and you'll be thrilled.
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Tony Kornheiser
All right, so we have lyrics, and the lyrics are the lyrics that Laurie Morgan sings when she sings Don't Worry Baby with the Beach Boys. The Beach Boys sing the lyrics from the male point of view. Lori Morgan sings the lyrics from the female point of view. So they have to change a little bit. Well, it's been building up inside of me for, oh, I don't know how long I don't know why but I keep thinking something's bound to go wrong but he looks in my eyes and makes me realize when he says don't worry, baby this is the greatest song I've ever heard. Look, look, I believe. And my son knows this even when he was in high school and he was in that singing group, the Alpha Males. Correct. I said, could you do Don't Worry, Baby? It's such a great song for a group of singers.
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Unknown Guest
Sure.
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Tony Kornheiser
It's so easy to do. It's so wonderful. It is my favorite song. So that's why I'm over the moon about the Laurie Morgan version, because it's my favorite song. Thanks to our guests today, Andy Beyer and Tim Legler. Thanks as well to today's sponsors. Remember, you can listen to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Odyssey. Get the show through Apple Podcasts. Please leave us a review. Speaking of Lori Morgan, this comes from Rick Franzosa of Cincinnati, who was on Chuck and Roxy episode 252, and he says, so you like Laurie Morgan singing Don't Worry Baby? How about Willie Nelson singing Warm to the Sun? Or my favorite Timothy B. Schmidt singing Caroline? No, the album is called Stars and Stripes, Volume 1. Country singer singing Beach Boy Songs with the Beach Boys. It did not sell well and volume two was shelved. But I've heard somewhere there is recording of the late, great Loretta Lynn singing in my room. Also, check out Kathy Trocholy singing I Can hear music. You downloaded this album?
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Unknown Guest
I did. I haven't gotten all the way through.
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Tony Kornheiser
It, but is there anything where you say, this is really good?
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Unknown Guest
Nothing has hit the level of Lori Morgan but some very pleasant, really lovely covers. Yes.
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Michael
You downloaded.
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Unknown Guest
I did.
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Michael
Okay. Like, through Apple Music.
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Unknown Guest
Through Apple Music, yes. I'm like the one person that does.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yes.
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Unknown Guest
I like my own personal library of music. So, yes.
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Tony Kornheiser
From James P. In Los Angeles. Listen to this. Dear Mr. Tony, or whoever's reading this while Mr. Tony yells about the printer, I just wanted to inform the show, and by inform, I mean alert you to another monument erected in Wilbon's honor. That there is now a pizza named after Michael Wilbon at lesorteds. L A S O R T E D S A newish, very buzzy pizza spot in Los Angeles. Yes, Los Angeles. Because when you think authentic pizza, you think palm trees, traffic, and zero humidity. But honestly, it's my new favorite restaurant out here. The pizza is called the Wilbon. Naturally. And what's on it, you ask? Double sausage, imported from Chicago. Extra cheese, no vegetables, not even a basil leaf. It's not healthy, it's not trendy, it's not even trying to be likable. It's just Wilbone. The menu description. Might as well say it's quote, best enjoyed while yelling about the bears. Anyway, I thought this would be of interest to the loyal littles out there. That's it. I'm going to eat a slice while watching pizza and waiting for Wilbon to remind us he's from Chicago. 17 times in the first five minutes. Can this be true?
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Michael
I'm on the website right now. It is true.
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Tony Kornheiser
Wow. The Wilbon. That. You think he knows this? Well, I. I'm going to tell him.
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Unknown Guest
You have to.
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Tony Kornheiser
He doesn't. He doesn't know this.
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Unknown Guest
No. And it seems the Wilbon seems now that we need a Kornheiser pizza, right?
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Tony Kornheiser
I don't know.
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Unknown Guest
It's only fair.
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Tony Kornheiser
I don't know. Terry Tahara, Bremen, Indiana I just had to write in about how fabulous Wednesday's open was. On no other sports podcast can you get discussion about coffee companies, classic literature, Moby Dick. An Olympic skater's past, marital status, a bounce, background of golf by the host, fairway bunker tips, intern. Job description. Horticulture, dog food, car registration, renewal and banking. Who needs sports when you have all this? Chris Ban Sells Forest Hill, Maryland. I made it all the way through Moby Dick. It was brutal. I mean, it wasn't as bright door as the Louise Glock collection, but some of those chapters about whale anatomy came close. Yeah, it's impossible. Impossible read. You got paid by the word? Yeah, that's how it worked. It's an impossible read. Nobody can read it. Stop it. A haiku from Moby Dick. Technical chapters. It is a leviathan on many levels. Thank you, David George, Maple Valley, Washington. The Giants have been miserable at the playthrough the last 15 games or so I've wondered to myself the last few nights as I've watched these games. There has to be someone better out there in the world than some of these bums. They need some offensive firepower. Someone with some thump in their back. Enter the all powerful Dom Smith. Yes, that Dom Smith hitting fifth tonight and playing first for the Giants. Clearly there's no one better out there in the world. They definitely should have kept playing whatever person was already stinking it up over there. Cheers and have a great weekend. Psycho. My half price Revolution toaster is arriving in a week or so. That's one good for you. Yeah, Dom Smith. Can we look him up? Is he. Is he playing for the Giants?
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Michael
We'll pull it up. We might need a new Revolution toaster out at the beach.
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Tony Kornheiser
Just FYI we have one out there. Yeah, you can use it. Sean C. White who writes Long live the old orange man. And this is he's from Bozouer boss your Louisiana. I know you have a tendency to butcher Louisiana town. You hit three hits last night Dom Smith.
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Michael
Yeah.
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Tony Kornheiser
Wow.
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Unknown Guest
Coming alive.
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Tony Kornheiser
Wow. I would like to request to be the official linguist for you linguist for you pronouncing Louisiana town names but he writes Sean White writes wonder if you could give my alma mater LSU Shreveport pilots a shout out for a perfect 59.0naia national championship season. Didn't we do this the other day on pti? We did.
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Unknown Guest
Yeah, I think we did.
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Tony Kornheiser
The team has brought the Shreveport Bossier City community together when normally this area is not shown in the best light. The team has broken numerous records, done some amazing things in the sport of baseball. The Pilots have always had a strong team, knowing as any baseball fan the game turned according to the baseball God's will as a bad bounce on the field or a drop fly ball can turn the momentum cause a loss in the fickle game of baseball, especially at the college level. 59 0. 59 0.
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Unknown Guest
That's fairly impressive.
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Tony Kornheiser
Bobby Gottfried On Monday I was fortunate enough to spend my third straight year as a walking scorer for the US Open qualifier at Woodmont. While I still haven't scored for a qualifier this week, I was lucky enough to walk 18 holes with Stewart Sink. I always, at the urging of the starter, introduce myself to the golfers at the start of their round and then tell them they can ignore me from then on if I think I missed a shot or have a question about whether someone had to take a penalty stroke. I'll ask their caddy who's always happy to oblige. I have to say Sing could not have been nicer. He initiated conversations walking up fairways. He was loose, conversational, not a care in the world. He started the afternoon round. One shot out of a qualifying Spot. He did not play his best golf that afternoon, but you wouldn't have known it by his demeanor. A smile on his face the whole time, chatting with his playing partners, two kids from Bethesda, as it turned out, and just being a pros. Pro even told some amazing stories from his days on the Ryder cup team, including one about throwing out two days of preparation about who would tee off on which hole of foursomes because he got nervous five minutes before his first Ryder cup tee time. He and Jim Furyk would go on to win that match. All in all, US Open qualifying day may be the hardest day in golf, but it's also extremely rewarding for the fans. What do you think of that?
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Michael
Love that story. It's a pro understands the role that he now can. Can have in the game.
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Tim Legler
Yeah.
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Tony Kornheiser
And how about doing that? Yeah. Yeah.
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Unknown Guest
Very cool.
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Tony Kornheiser
It's really wonderful.
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Michael
And Stewie sing with the best tan line ever.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yes, yes. No question about that. Drew Conrad. So when exactly did the TK show become a talent pipeline for the landscaping and horticultural industry? I teach a workforce development course for economic development professionals. Can I get Mr. Toney to serve on a virtual panel to talk about his internship program? I'm sure Nigel Michael can set up the zoom for him. Sure.
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Unknown Guest
We'll get that done.
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Tony Kornheiser
I don't do that. I'm afraid of zoom. Parker Jeppesen, Logan, Utah. Mr. Tony and Chief Grilling Officer Michael kicked off the summer grilling season, but making some chicken Speedies. I'm out in Utah, so I picked up some Lupo's marinade off Amazon. Probably overpaid, but still less than a junior hamburger from five guys. Anyway, they were a hit. The kids especially loved him. Attaches their audio. Thank you message. Is Salamitas. Worth a try? Absolutely. Salamitas. Yeah, sure, do that. This is all Triple Cities area. Speedy marinades and stuff like that.
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Unknown Guest
Would you like to hear the thank you from the kids?
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Tony Kornheiser
Sure. Thank you, Mr. Tony. Oh, that's. That's sweet. Okay, Wednesday's email about Kelvin Clinic mentioned Highway 281. Hey, I know that highway. I grew up in Mission, Texas, part of the Rio Grande Valley, approximately 1805 miles south of the Kelvin Clinic. If traveling purely on Highway 281 from North Dakota. Is this what it feels like to get a reference on the show? Because I think I need to sit down. Old game. Tom Lanphy was born in Mission, Texas. This is from Billy Flores. Tom Landry. Wow. Okay.
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Unknown Guest
Always dapperly dressed, Louis.
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Tony Kornheiser
Absolutely. Louise Quintero, Spring Hill, Florida. She must know a lot about mustard. Oh, thank you for liking that line. I said that Boisson was born in Dijon, so she must know a lot about Mustard Keller. Her not crazy about that line. I thought it was a good line.
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Unknown Guest
Nearly as much as I did.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, it's not as good as there are dead people ranked ahead of her. That's a better line. It was a good line.
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Unknown Guest
It was a good line line.
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Andy Beyer
Yeah.
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Tony Kornheiser
Come on, I'm working here. David Johnson, Saratoga Springs, New York. The woman to whom I'm related by marriage and I would like to announce the birth of our first child, a feminine child, Faye Elizabeth Johnson as the newest little if I could describe the joyful experience of becoming a father, I would. But this show stinks and I'm a rum dumb so I won't even try. But here's what I've learned so far. Dan Burns Children music is just as genius as his jingles and Tiger woods song. Explaining to your wife that a five alarm disaster diaper is called a Salizza is best left to after the diaper is changed or never. Finally, the secret to staying up for the fourth quarter of an NBA playoff game is to try and get an infant to sleep at a reasonable hour. Yeah, I missed it. I meant there was 15. 15 or 16. Why am I watching, right? Well, I missed it. What can I tell you, Ken in Tacoma Park, I can't believe that a fellow little missed the opportunity to paraphrase Don Henley, the email should have read, out on the road today, I saw a TK sticker on a Subaru. Tim Cree, Fort Collins, Colorado Starbucks became the Starbucks Coffee Company the same day Subaru drivers began caring about their kids more than anyone else. And from Drew Gardner in Iowa City, I recently was the recipient of my school district's Shine Award, as nominated by some of my debaters. Alongside this beautiful golden apple was a bespoke rectangular prism to store the award in. I believe that makes me an official Shine Box recipient. Go get your shine box. Go get your Shine bucks. If you're out in your bike tonight, everyone, if you're out in B, do wear white. What's that? Chicken Every night is the chicken.
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Tim Legler
Holy God Almighty. Is it possible just once you get something to eat for dinner around here.
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Tony Kornheiser
That'S not the chicken? Hey, dad. I'm just saying, dad.
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G
Out of the country I can enjoy being alone. But down in the city I keep staring at my phone. The sun comes up each morning on a poignant that it must key and then it ducks behind a cloud and lets me get some sleep but you can't ride on the wind if you cannot pay the fair it takes a whole lot of money Just to get up into the air Seems like the only way Way to be happy Is to be unaware and then living in peace Is another way of saying that you don't care But I care and peace and love will be the prize and it will come to me as the good Lord will provide because the more I look outside myself, the more I realize that whenever I see something new it's coming from inside. And you can't run on the wind if you cannot. It takes a whole lot of money just to get up into the end Seems like the only way to be happy is to be unaware and that living in peace Is another way of saying that you don't care Sam. Well, these days the cities all seem so surreal. Well, I guess they have their moments. It just depends on how you feel. But here in West Virginia Virginia I found people that I love and the rest of what my heart needs Is coming from above and you can't ride on the wind if you cannot pay the fear it takes a whole lot of money Just to get up there to the end Seems like the only way to be happy Is to be unaware and living in peace Is another way of saying that you don't care But I care oh, yes I can Sam. I'm laying here Just rest my head it's gonna be all he said but the morning sun keeps calling to me and I wanna be long gone so take my hand and I will follow you Anywhere that you might want me to but the morning light is keeping me away and I don't, I don't want to make no more mistakes Prison cells and wishing wells I see them.
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Andy Beyer
Side.
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G
By side and if, if I can't do what I wanted to.
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Tony Kornheiser
Well.
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G
At least I knew I've tried oh, I tried so take my hand and I will follow you Anywhere that you might want me to the morning light is keeping me awake and I don't want to make no more mistakes Wings. You're standing there. I can see your wings. You're an angel. Oh, yes, you are. And I have no more fears of earthly things and you know we are gonna travel real far from here.
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Tony Kornheiser
So.
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G
Take my hand and I will follow Anywhere that you might want me to the morning light is keeping me away and I don't want to make no more mistakes Things so take my hand and I will follow you Anywhere that you might want me to the morning light is keeping me away and I don't want to make no more mistakes I don't want to make no more mistakes Sa.