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Hey, it's Tony. Surprise. Yeah, we decided to do a show today and we're guest loaded for you. We'll chat with Sally Jenkins, Michael Wilbon, and a man who knows the value of a heated toilet seat, Mr. Steve Sands. But first, commerce. Previously on the Tony Kornheiser Show. It was the first time I ever saw that stuff called spin art, where you take the paints and you squeeze the paints into a cylinder that revolves very, very quickly and sprays the paints ont, you know, a receptive white piece of paper and you have made art. Do they still have that?
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I don't know. Okay, so far, you know, the two things you're associating with Lake George are cottage cheese and spinning art.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
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That is different than what my experience has been.
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Okay, the Tony Kornheiser show is on now. I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, I thought they were off. They did 150. They made a big deal about getting to 150 last week. This is 151. What are they? We're doing 151. It just felt like a good idea to do 151. Maybe we won't do 52 or 53 this week, but we're doing 151. Yeah. And we are guest loaded. We are guest loaded, as we were the other day. And we're going to start with the open with Sally Jenkins, my dear friend for a number of years, who, as you know, I think is a great, great writer. And Sally, the Washington Post owner, Jeff Bezos has offered everyone on the paper a buyout of some sort of. I'm waiting for him to offer me a buyout, which I'll take because I haven't been at the paper in a while. And Sally took the buyout and has another job lined up and we can talk about that. But what Sally did on Thursday night was host a party in Washington, D.C. a dinner and drinks party for a bunch of people at the Washington Post who she knows well, some of whom, many of whom I knew as well. Can you just tell everybody why you took the buyout? Tell everybody what you're doing next, but then concentrate on the party that. That you threw for a whole bunch 30, 35 people. Talk about it.
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Well, I took the buyout because it was a lot of money. It was a lot of money. And dumped into a pension fund that I'll be able to access pretty soon because believe it or not, that little girl you knew as a college kid is now qualifies for Medicare. So that was one financial reason. It's the first smart financial decision I've ever made in my life. But also, I'm going to the Atlantic Monthly, which is right now, I think, probably the best magazine in the world, edited by the reigning genius of journalism, Jeffrey Goldberg. And the chance to work for him and for that magazine was too good to turn down. It got between me and my loyalty, my longtime 30 year loyalty to the Washington Post.
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So now get to the party. Why? Okay, why did you throw the party? How'd you throw the party? How'd you make the guest list?
C
Okay, so there's this tradition at the Post that they give you cake. You know, when you leave, they bring in a cake.
A
They didn't give me cake. Raju Narrati just said, there's the door, pal. There's the door. Get out. Don't let it hit you.
C
Well, you were going to that TV money.
A
Yeah, well, that's true. That's true.
C
So, well, anyway, so normally they give you cake and they make a couple of toasts and say nice things about you, and then it's over. And I just didn't want to do that. It was going to be pretty painful to go back in the office and see people I've really loved for 30 years. And so I thought, you know what? Let's do this old school. So I booked a private room at the Palm. I wanted steak and whiskey and wine and stories. And so I just made up a list of about 30 people that I'm either very close to or who've been good to me at the paper and invited them. A lot of them were other people taking buyouts, you know, Dan Baltz, Carol Lennig, some. Some grapes of the paper that are also hanging up their spurs at the paper. And I thought it'd be a nice thing to get a bunch of us together in the same room.
A
It was. And I mean this.
C
And drink and have drinks instead of cake. Cake is kind of.
A
Cake is nonsense. Absolute nonsense. Cake is made to throw. That's all it's about. You don't need the cake. The thing I like best about the party and I. And I drove home from the beach because I wanted to go. It was fabulously unorganized. I mean, that was to explain, you know, what I'm talking about, the people and how the room, the circulation in the room. This was unorganized. Great.
C
Yeah, it was very unorganized because there was, you know, all of our sports people. Adam Kilgore, Barry's Verluga, Matt Rennie, you Know, but there were also people from, like, there was Laurie Montgomery, who's a top editor at the paper, and it was Gibson came, and you guys came. You and Wilbon came, and Len Brownie, our former editor, who, you know, was really our boss for most of our careers. So I wanted people who. Some of whom knew each other, some of whom didn't know each other that well. But, you know, like, you got a chance to talk to Adam Kilgore and Jeff Culpepper.
A
I'd never. I mean, Culpepper said that we had met in the 90s. I don't remember that at all. I don't remember the 90s. I mean, you're eligible for Medicare. I'm eligible for just a home. I gotta get out of here. But I. And I. I know I'd never met Kilgore, and I. I think their work is great. So I was really happy I got to sit with them, sit with the sports editor, sit with Rennie, sit with Verluga. That was that. I. I liked it. You welcomed people, but you didn't make a speech. Did you think of making a speech? Other people made speeches. You did not.
C
I made a little speech. Well, it wasn't about me. I wanted it to be.
A
It was about you. You were paying for it. It could be completely about you.
C
No, it was about all of us. It was about the whole crew.
A
I mean, unbelievably selfless. I would have said this was about me, and I would have spoken until people started to boo.
C
But then it would have been like. Then everyone would have had to give a speech about me, and then that would have been incredibly geeky and, like, stupid and embarrassing, and my ears would have turned pink and. No, but look, there many. Look, the greats in that room. Dan Baltz.
A
Yeah.
C
I mean, yeah, you know, we're talking about peerless, peerless political writer. You know, Carol Lennon for Pulitzer.
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She's won a bunch of Pulitzer Prizes.
C
Oh, my God, you know, Rick Atkinson, you know, bestselling, foremost American historian. You don't sit there and let a bunch of people toast a sports writer in that crowd, you know?
A
Oh, I don't know if I'm signing the check. They're toasted.
C
David von Drehle, you know, one of our very best columnists for years. The Count. Yeah, the Count Duke of Denver. The Count of Fondreli. Yeah. No, it was really quite an all star lineup. I was so happy all those people came.
A
It was a lovely, lovely event. And of course, I was, you know, I I thought maybe. Maybe somebody would start screaming, well, to me and Wilbon, why don't you get up and speak? No, I. And you would understand that that would be possible, right? Not with the crowd. That was not mostly sports, but. So I thought, what. What would I say beforehand? And I was gonna tell people about the first time you and I met. And I was gonna say, well, the first time we met, Sally was at Stanford and she was playing tennis. And then I was gonna say, well, no, no, that was actually Sally's favorite commentator, John McEnroe, who was playing tennis. But then. Then. Didn't Sally play with Macaron? No, no, that must be Carrillo. That so? Yeah. I remember Sally when she covered college football at sports. No, that was Dan Jenkins. That wasn't Sally Jenkins. So now I've got it. It must have been when Sally was married to Stockton. Or was that Visser? And then I was gonna stop, and people would have thought, he's in his dotage. He's just. He. He lost it. He's done. And it would have made me very happy, but nobody asked. And I would have turned to Wilbon and said, just finish for me. Just finish. So that's, you know.
C
Well, we got to the sport. We got to the sports toast at the end of the evening. But you'd already left.
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I had left. And what?
C
Your brilliant performance.
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I'm always the first to arrive and the first to leave because you're in.
C
Your dotage and you go home early.
A
Right. But what I missed, apparently, was shining singing to you people.
C
Sorry. For the rest of your life.
A
People don't understand this. They know Shinen is a great sports writer. They don't understand he didn't go to Vanderbilt on the Grantland Rice Scholarship. No, he was a vocal student. He was an operatic singer at Vanderbilt. He has sung the national anthem probably in 20 ballparks. Right. He's a great singer.
C
He is classically trained. He's a classically trained tenor. And the most fun thing we do at every Olympics is we blow away whatever country we're in, you know, including Italy, by the way, Turin or Sochi or, you know, Paris. The most fun thing that happens at every Olympics is we prevail on Shine and we get really in our cups. And at the end of a night in some restaurant, we prevail on Shinin to sing. And the first couple notes, everybody in the place looks at him like, what the hell?
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Yeah.
C
And then about four notes in, everybody's jaws drop open. And by the end, everyone's on their feet, applauding and bravoing him, which is exactly what happened in the palm a couple of nights ago. He sang O Solo Mio to me, which was really fabulous.
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Just wonderful. Quite, I will say. And I know you got to go and I'll get you out of here. There was a little sadness for me, a little sadness because it was, it seemed to me, the sort of official end for me of the sports section that I had loved so much for so long and was so proud to be associated with. I wondered if you felt a little sadness as well.
C
You know, I don't, because, you know, everyone thought that when you and Wilbon left. Right. And what happened instead was like, I grew up, you know, and. And so did Barry's Veluga.
A
Yeah.
C
And Chuck Culpepper came in.
A
Yeah. There's a line. The line keeps moving. It's okay.
C
Yeah. The line is a natural. Is a natural cycle here. And all those great writers that you sat with the other night are younger and, you know, a Candace Buckner is going to really explode as a talent. And Jerry Brewer has already been a finalist for a Pulitzer. The Washington Post sports section is as deep and as quality deep as it's ever been. So that's not going to happen. And it's, you know, it's. It's fascinating to watch, you know, and I'm actually interested to see that. I'm not. I'm not sad. I'm proud of all those people. I feel like I had an effect on them, just like you had an effect on me. And it's going to be fun to watch them grow.
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Well, it was a wonderful, wonderful dinner. I'm so happy that you did it. So happy to have gone. And we will keep having you on the podcast because it's free for me, you know, I don't have to pay you. It's good. Thank you, Sal.
C
Thank you, Tone.
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Sally Jenkins. We are in the open still of this broadcast, so I want to just take a couple of minutes because you expect me to do this. The Nats. Nats are down three nothing in the eighth yesterday. They're. Yeah, they're down.
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Phillies, right? Or the Mets.
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Yeah, it's Phillies. The Phillies. They're in Philadelphia. And they'd won a couple of games. I mean, you know, they had a pretty good series.
D
They won the first game and they came back in the second. They were just short.
A
Yeah.
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But making.
D
Making some noise in the late innings.
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So they're down three nothing and they have the bases loaded. There's nobody out they have a chance. Top eight. They have a chance. Bases loaded, nobody out. The Phillies get rid of the pitcher they've got. They bring in a lefty reliever, Tanner Baker, I think his name is. And then. And the Nats have James Wood up. He's their best power hitter. It's into a double play. They get one run, 3 to 1, and then C.J. abrams comes up and pops out. And those two were 0 for 8. And Wood had three strikeouts.
D
He's leading the league in strikeouts.
A
James Wood, since the All Star Game, has taken a far turn. You know, he's just not anywhere near what he was when he became an All Star. He's just not. He's fan in the pitches, particularly against lefties. He's just fan. And they go outside on him and he, you know, and he's striking out all the time. So they lose that one, and then now they're at the Yankees. This is a pretty tough three. Yeah. You know, three in a row. The Mets, the Phillies, the Yankees.
D
That's pretty tough gauntlet right there.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
D
Anyways, although we tried to soften up the Yankees for you. I know they won last night.
A
They did. But you won three out of four. Yes. Sox won three out of four.
D
Yes.
A
In bigger news, Cal Rawley.
D
Yes.
A
So the two greatest nicknames in sports right now are Big Dumper and Fairway Jesus. And they both had great days yesterday.
D
Yes. Although there's a new one. There's some Red spots. Pitcher who's like a huge guy.
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Password?
D
Big. Big. No, that's the Red Sox player.
A
Yeah. An unpronounceable name.
D
Yeah. Looks at the password. His brothers. By the way, his nickname is the username, so they. Password. But there's another guy named Big Sugar because he's like £250 if there was 100 miles an hour for the Reds.
A
Okay, so I'm not aware of him. Yes, I'm not aware of him.
D
But Red's making a move for that final wild card. Oh, yeah.
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Raleigh had 48 and 49. So he set the record.
D
Got it done early.
A
Yes. First two innings, hit a home run, and he took first two winnings. He set the record for home runs by a primary catcher. And he's got more than a month to go. We have not reached September yet. We're a week away from September, and he's got 49 home runs. He might be on pace for close to 60. He might be on pace, but I don't know what the pace is. But he's a catcher, and he's not just a catcher. He's not just some slob who isn't very good. He was the Platinum Glove last year. He was the best catcher in baseball last year. Best defensive player in baseball. Eddie plays a lot for a catch.
D
I think it was 128 games last year.
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It's a lot, you know, so he had a great day. I wanted to mention that Daniil Medvedev had a breakdown, had a psychotic reaction at the US Open and lost again. He has only won one, played four majors this year, won a total of one match. This is a guy seated in the top five all the time.
D
Yes, he's one of the US Majors. Yeah.
A
You know, he went crazy last night because some photographer. That was nuts that the photographer just walked onto the court.
D
Yeah, I guess he walked on the court and then the chair umpire, like, gave the first serve and that's when Medvedev completely lost it.
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Yeah.
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And then.
D
I guess.
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But then he won a couple of sets.
D
He won the fourth set.
A
Six love. Yeah. And then lost in the fifth. Because there's something. Yeah, there's something unbalanced at the moment about his career.
D
Yes.
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You know, and he will. He will let us know at the right time, I assume. Or someone else will do some reporting on it and let us know. But those things.
D
Do you see the video of Djokovic toe?
A
No. No. I watched the first two sets with joke.
D
Yeah. So in the third set, he has to take a. Like a, you know, his medical timeout and they zoom in on replacing the bandage underneath one of the calluses on a big toe. Oh, disgusting. Really don't need a close up.
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He won the first set in 24 minutes. It was non factor. But next set was good. Yeah, the next set was good. A guy named Lerner Tien. An American.
D
Yes.
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You know, it's okay. I mean, you always hope Djokovic will lose because you say that's it, then he's done then. But he didn't lose.
D
No, he'll make it to like.
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And Jessica Pagula didn't lose.
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She didn't. There was one upset. I think it was a. No, a Danish player. Well, Medvedev was a big upset, but this Danish player who's up 5:1 in the third or 5:2 in the third and lost and lost to this Filipino player. It was. That was the only match I really got to watch. It was terrific.
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See that?
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Anyway, so this is all the things I had to get to. We will have. We'll do a lot on the golf we'll do a lot on the golf because we're going to have Steve Sands and Michael Wilbond, but we will have Wilbond next when we return. I am Tony Kornheiser. The Jack Welch Management Institute at Strayer University helps you go from I know the way to I've arrived with our top 10 ranked online MBA. Gain skills you can learn today and apply tomorrow.
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B
No, not at all. No. It was fun. It was fun. I was just a caddy. I was just a chauffeur for my son who, you know, plays every single day. It seems good. So that was, that was, that was the reason I was glad to be back there, glad to be at Columbia. It was fun. I've been, I've been a few times. I, we go, I go for dinner.
E
We go for other stuff.
B
I go for lunch. But that's the, you know, one of the rare Times I've been to the range with him, I just go and sit in the cart. That's all I can do right now.
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I'm just saying that there are people. The golf community, the caddies, the players, the pros have come to me and said Wilbon was here. Well, I said, okay. Okay. He's gonna be here more often. Yeah.
B
Yeah. That and that and a quarter can get you nothing. Okay, that's good to know. All right.
A
I had Sally on at the beginning.
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Welcome.
A
Yeah, you are still welcome. I had Sally on at the beginning of the show. We talked about the party. What did you think of the party and the dinner? What'd you think?
B
Well, it's great. Obviously, I was thrilled to be invited, which I told her later that evening. I texted her to tell her I was great to be invited, you know. But as I told you, it's also. I hate to say this, it's melancholy because it's a part of. It's not just a part of life. It was my entire life.
A
Yeah.
B
You got there young. I got there ridiculously young. I got there 20. 20 years old. I was a summer intern at the Post. Came back after graduation. So from 20 to 50, that was my life. Every day of it. I didn't know anything else. And so when you see people and you hear stories and you're able to reminisce and, I mean, Dave Shining and I. Just to pick one person in the room, Shining and I. George Solomon, who. I sat and had dinner with George and Hazel. So that. That alone made it incredible evening for me. But George sent Shining and me to Los Angeles another time when Los Angeles was on fire in 1991. After the riots. During the riots. Not after. During. To cover. To find out if there was any connection between the unrest and some of it in the aftermath involved, you know, the Crips and Bloods. If there was any connection between that and the lack of athletic sporting opportunities in Southern California. And it sounded. George said at the time, you know, this may be a stretch, but it wasn't a stretch. It was the A1 story. And Lynn Downey was sitting there. He put it on a one. And we talked about that as 35 years ago. Yeah, so your whole life's in that room. But also that life is over. It's done not just for us. It's done for everybody. The newspaper life. It's over as we knew it. So it's, you know, it was melancholy for me. Maybe not for other people, but for.
A
Me, it was me, too. Not so Much for Sally, because we talked about this, but I share your, you know, your look at that circumstance. It just looked like everybody was filing out the same door to me. I'm sure you felt the same way. It's just like, yeah, absolutely. Nobody's going in the door. Everybody's going out the door.
B
No, no, no, no. It's, you know. You know, I don't want to say Rip, but I'll say it. But, you know, but it's something that we got. Great. It made our lives, all of us, everybody in that room. And there were some people that obviously were, you know, you. We had a great age range in that room, and we all shared that thing. But to sit with Liz Clark, you know, George and Hazel and Lynn Downey was. That's, you know, I mean, that's a pretty good evening.
A
All right, so we'll get back to your regular life and not. Not your party life. And your regular life is watching the Cubs and thinking about the Bears. Cubs have rebounded pretty well from. From the despair of about 10 days ago, right?
B
Yeah. Six out of seven we've won, including three against Milwaukee. The one loss in that seven was to Milwaukee, the last game of the series. But, you know, six out of seven at this point of year. Look, everybody else has had, you know, losing eight of nine and seven in a row. I mean, Yankees, Dodgers, Mets.
A
That's right.
B
Everybody's had that. Only two teams in Major League baseball have not been swept to this point. The Cubs and the Reds. That's it. That's the list. Everybody else has suffered a sweep. The Cubs and Reds have not. And the Cubs have something that actually sort of bodes well. I don't want to jinx them, but the Cubs have the number one starting staff ERA in July and August.
A
Wow.
B
I think it's two in July and August. It's one in August that I know. And so, you know, I mean, that's. That's because they slumped. They slumped so badly that Kyle Tucker had to be given, like a three day, you know, vacay. He wasn't like Dennis Rodman. He didn't go to Vegas. But, you know, he had to have a vacay. You know, say Suzuki is not hitting right now. Pete Core Armstrong hadn't had a home run in 25 days. They all just slumped at the same time. And yet, you know, yet I think the Cubs have the fourth best record in baseball today. Their season had 21 games over.500. So it, you know, they didn't crater. And I'm hoping That there's six out of seven. We got Colorado this week. You know, we ought to add some to the victory total there. Got them on the road, I think I read.
A
Isn't Kyle Tucker hitting about a thousand in the last five, six games?
B
Just, just the series? No, because they rested him.
A
Okay.
B
Against Milwaukee, they. In the last three games, he had seven runs batted in. And with something like seven for 12 in that series. So a sweep of Anaheim. So, you know, there's an uptick. I don't know how long it lasts, but yeah, it's, you know, September with the Cubs is never a smooth ride. So it's, you know, those of us who are obsessed with it and Tony, the shocking thing was, look, when we go to Arizona, you know, it's all Cubs. And when we go to certain places, even in the middle of the country, the Anaheim crowd looked like it was 70%. They stood after two strike on two strike pitches. And you're like, whoa, wait a minute, what is this? And people are hungry again. It's only been seven years, but we haven't forgotten.
A
All right, I'm gonna skip the Bears. I'm gonna skip the Bears because we have no idea. We just have no idea. We'll have an idea about football three games in, but we have no real idea now.
B
No, we don't.
A
But I will ask this because you were excited. Did you say Notre Dame was playing on Sunday? Next Sunday. Notre Dame.
B
I believe Notre Dame is playing Sunday. We, obviously, the season opened. There were a few smattering.
A
There was a couple of games. I saw a couple of teams I didn't expect playing early. Like Iowa State.
B
I would say Kansas State.
A
Yes.
B
Is that still a conference game?
A
It has to be. It has to be a Big 12 Conference game. Yes.
B
Rivalry game. That and I, you know, I think that game, if I'm not mistaken, was played in Ireland, where I was three years ago today watching Northwestern play Nebraska. So that, that, that's not unprecedented, but the season really starts on Saturday. And I'm, I'm, you know, excited for the college football season. Well, doesn't it. It starts with, with, With Ohio State.
C
Texas.
A
Yes. Which is the biggest. It could be the number. The first game of the year and the last game of the year. Good. It could, you know, it could be.
B
That's why I hadn't thought of it that way. Yeah, I mean, it's ushering us in. It's out. I, I'm, I'm excited for the whole weekend, but I think I took a glance at it that Notre Dame plays and. Because there are games on at Miami.
A
Seven o'. Clock. Yeah, at Miami.
B
Wow.
A
Yeah.
B
Prime time.
A
That's, you know, that's the Catholics. Convicts. That's 30 years later. Catholics versus convicts.
B
Right.
A
That's the Michael Irvin game. Yeah, sure.
B
I remember I covered that game and I couldn't sleep before it.
A
Yeah, it was fabulous.
B
It was such a big deal back then. So. Yeah. So we're back to sports. I was saying that, you know, in the Labor Day ushers it in this week. It's a week early in terms of getting. Last night we were watching tennis until.
A
1Am I watched the first two Djokovic sets. I missed the Medvedev. When he went insane. I missed the Medvedev.
B
He went nuts. Yeah, he tore. He hit a racket on a bench about 130 times. Right. And so I. I would have been rooting had he won that match. I would have been rooting for him to lose more than anything else, but. Because he behaved like such a creep. But. And you know, the circumstance.
C
A photographer.
A
Yeah, I watched it. I mean, I saw it this morning. What is that photographer doing? What are you doing?
B
What does he do? Well, here's what he's doing now. He's trying to explain to whomever he's shooting for that he's not shooting.
A
That's. He's out.
B
They took his credential.
A
Yeah. And they should have.
B
And they should have took his credential and it was just. It's one o'. Clock. That's what to me makes the US Open. You know, Matthew asked me last night, he's like, dad, do you like Wimbledon or the US Open better? And I said, I like them both for what they are. I don't need to. I don't need to, you know, to have one over. The other one's not better than the other. But the U.S. open, to have crazy things happen at 11 Eastern or later is the appeal of that tournament of the United States Open. Because crazy stuff happens at night. So I love that stuff. And I will watch every single night of the 14 at that. That was probably not 14. Probably be 10 nights or 11 nights. But all 10 or 11 of those I'm going to watch excitedly.
A
All right, I'll get you out of here on this. I know you watched the golf. What did you think of the way Fleetwood won and the fact that he finally won?
B
Loved it. Loved it. I mean, I don't know Tommy Fleetwood at all. And I don't even know that I've been In the same room with him. And, you know, we've. You and I've gotten to know a fair number of guys on the PGA Tour over the years. Fleetwood's not one of them. Right. But every interview he does, every public interaction he has, he is somebody that I came to really like. Like, he's at the top of my list of professional golfers today just because of the way he handles himself, the humility and the grace and the way he's so engaging all the time and self deprecating. I root for him. And so I was thrilled when he won. It's not that I'm rooting against others, you know, I don't. You know, I rooted against Patrick Reed for years, forever. I used to root against DeChambeau. He seems to have made himself more palatable. But, you know, you know, this guy, it's been a while. And the notion, the storyline that he can't win is so bogus because he's won seven times.
A
That's right.
B
He's won seven times on professional tour against some of the best people in the world. So I got tired of that, but I was glad see him win and the way he reacted when he won. And so now all we got. But that's it. I mean, golf is over. How do you feel about that?
A
Well, no, we got the Ryder cup in three weeks.
B
I know, but I mean.
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Yeah, well, they got out of the way of the NFL. I think it's the wise thing to do. I think they'd be buried. And I do. I think that they've changed their schedule in a very smart way. By the way, talking about golf and tennis, did you see Rory at the Open? What did he do, get in a jet and just go to LaGuardia?
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Yes. So at the end on 18, and I'm not sure who was doing the broadcast, who was on, who was. Because Rory was done early. I don't know. Because I don't know who was doing it. But anyway, whoever's doing it says Rory's gonna put out here. Because I think Rory birdie day. He did and almost jarred it for eagle. And they said, well, Rory at this point just wants to get out of here to go to the US Open. Oh, they said that made.
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Yeah, okay.
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He had made this known, but I thought, okay, that's an exaggeration. He'll go Tuesday or Wednesday.
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No, no, last night.
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He was there last night before the others were off the damn golf course.
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It's unbelievable. Yeah, yeah.
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He loved it. And maybe he's friends with I was thinking of the Europe maybe he spends with Djokovic. He was there for the Djokovic match.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So maybe he's friends with some of the people who were playing yesterday and wanted to see them. You still got time to see Joker because that was entertaining in a way that was bizarre. It looked, it looked like he was not going to be able to finish the match.
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Djokovic, you know, because.
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Yeah, right.
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Yeah, he was, he was. Well, not just that. He had other stuff going on. He was stretching, he was leaning over. He looked like he was Fred Sanford and he was going to join the little bit.
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Yeah, I had the same, I had the same impression. There were. He hit so many shots out. That was so surprising to me. I mean, he's letting this 19 year old kid bang it with him and he's hitting it out. I was. I don't know. I don't know.
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I don't think he can go very long in that. And that's not supposed to be hot in New York. It's supposed to be very temperate in New York this week.
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Yeah.
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So maybe he won't struggle, but I mean he's not going to be able to. He's not going to be able to contend with the. First of all, he's only ranked. Seated Seventh.
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Seventh.
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Seventh seed.
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That surprised me.
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Okay, well, we're in Tom Brady at Tampa. Although Tom Brady won there.
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He did.
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I mean, we're, you know, we're past the. We're the only, the only people you can compare him with now are Brady and LeBron. Yeah, he's at his age. You know, I mean, I guess Ken Rosewall.
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Rosewall got into a final when he was 40.
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Yeah.
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Then he's the only one. I think, I think it's just him. I'm not certain. A different kind of tennis then. All right, I'll talk to you later.
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Hanging on.
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Have a good night. Michael Wilbon, boys and girls. We will take a break. Steve Sands will join us and once again we will talk about the golf. Tommy Fleetwood finally winning on the PGA Tour and winning only $10 million for yesterday. I'm Tony Kornheiser. New season, new chaos in college football. Big stage, big opportunity this Labor Day weekend. Wildness lives on ABC, ESPN and the all new ESPN app.
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What a way to start.
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Featuring top 10 teams like Clemson, Notre Dame, Alabama and LSU. And Bill Belichick's debut at North Carolina.
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It's so special.
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Send us your music by emailing it to jinglesonycornizershow.com and football season just around the corner. There are some explosions in the sky to the intro of this.
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Really? Yeah. Yeah.
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And also with football starting, get your logoed gear from Johnny O. We still have TK sand as we welcome Steve Sands.
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Yeah, Steve Sands is played in by this TK Sands stands for the fact that when I'm in the sand, I can't get out with at least three shots. But Steve Sands is different.
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Ball at rest.
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You were. Yeah, you were at the, you were at the tournament. What? Tommy Fleetwood 1. Just the overall notion. Does it mean anything in particular? I know it's a feel good situation. Does it mean anything in particular?
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Oh, I think it's pretty meaningful for Tommy. I think it's meaningful for the sport. It was a really good FedEx playoffs. You know, sometimes playoffs can be looked at as contrived and you know, it's a money grab and it's really not playoffs compared to team sports. And that's all fair. But the three events, Tony, were fantastic.
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Yes, they were.
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Justin Rose beating JJ Spawn in a playoff in Memphis and then Scotty Scheffler holing out on the 72nd hole, 71st hole at Caves Valley and then winning the BMW Championship. And then Tommy Fleetwood is about as popular a player, a popular a winner as I can imagine outside of, you know, the massive big names in the sport. It was a, was a really cool moment seeing Tommy get that done yesterday. What a nice, nice guy. And he got to the finish line, man. It was, it was not easy.
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But he Got there.
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Two things happened that enabled, not strictly enabled him, but helped him a lot. Two things happened. Scheffler put it in the water on 15 on the par three, effectively taking himself out of it. And Cantlay missed a putt on 17. That might have changed the trajectory of how Fleetwood played. He didn't even hit the hole on it. It was like a five foot putt. And it only took him three hours to make the putt.
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He.
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What did my friend Chet call him all day? Can't lay. He's the slowest player I've ever seen, I tell you.
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Our man Chet was texting me yesterday as well. I love Chad. Here's. I thought that the bigger moment to be, if you don't mind me saying, other than Cantley at 17 and Scheffler at 15. Go back to a week ago at the BMW Championship. Scotty Scheffler was four back of Robert McIntyre and he birdied the first right, while McIntyre bogey first. Scheffler was four back going into the final round yesterday. He had a little bit of traffic ahead of him, but he was right there, you know, high for fifth or something. There was only a few people ahead of him. He had it out of bounds on the first tee.
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Yes, yes.
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You know, that's incredibly rare for Scottie Scheffler, let alone anybody else is a world class player. But for Scheffler, we were expecting him to, you know, hit it down the fairway on one, make a birdie at the first and kind of, you know, start peacocking a little bit and watch his name rise up the leaderboard and see the other guys kind of wilt under that pressure. That shot to me was enormous. That, that allowed the other guys, especially Tommy, to say, okay, hang on a second, he bogeyed the first as opposed to birdying the first. He's now five back before I even tee off.
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Right.
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Maybe I don't have to worry about Scotty as much. And then he hit it out of bounds at 15, which was bizarre too. It just wasn't Scotty's day, that's all.
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Yeah, I would say that this is. A lot of people have said this, this probably the second most popular win of the year. The most popular win would be Rory winning at the Masters for the Grand Slam. And then Tommy Fleetwood, who's had, who's had so much contention and so much problems being in contention. And for him to win, I, I was really impressed. I didn't know Tiger Woods, I don't know what their relationship Is. But Tiger wrote that thing that said, you deserve this more than anybody else out there. You've been so resilient. I was moved by that.
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Oh, it was great. I mean, perseverance in sports is a real thing. And Tommy Fleetwood. Listen to this, Tony. 30, 30 top five finishes on the PGA Tour, that's the most of anybody since they've been keeping that stat in 1983 and 40 years. To have that many top five finishes and that much heartbreak and never get across the line to keep putting yourself out there. I was in Hartford at the Travelers Championship. He had a three shot lead coming down the stretch.
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Bradley over Bradley. Yeah.
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Oh, man, he just kind of gave it away. And then in Memphis a couple of weeks ago, he had a good lead. He was right there, gave it away a little bit. And here he is coming right back into the fray. And he said something that you and I spoke about on your show on Monday after Memphis. That, yes, the more opportunities you give yourself, the better chance is that you're actually going to get to the winner circle, which is pretty obvious. But the more important thing in that is what he said yesterday was the same thing we talked about the Monday after Memphis. The more you put yourself in that position, Tony, and don't get to the winner's circle, it weighs on you. You know, you do get more opportunities, clearly, but it also makes it more difficult because it's hard to keep your mind intact, to not let it race a little bit, because the past creeps into your present. And that shows a lot from Tommy Fleetwood. To keep putting himself in there, put himself into that position, and this time, finish it off. And not only finish it off, Tony, finish it off in style. He went. He was going away. He kept everybody at bay. And that was. That was a heck of a round of golf. And very, very popular, like you said, incredibly popular for a guy who's never one, who's not from the United States. People in Atlanta were rooting for Tommy Fleetwood yesterday. It was very cool.
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Yeah, I mean, and I think it. I think it has great implications for the Ryder Cup. I think it will make the Ryder cup. And it's tough. The Ryder cup is opposite football, college and pro football. This is a tough thing. It's not what the Tour necessarily wants. That's why they get out early. But I think the Ryder cup in the United States with. With guys everybody knows, you know, and Fleetwood winning and sort of avenging himself, I think it's a big deal for the Ryder Cup. Which leads me to this. Keegan Bradley, it seems to me, has earned the right to be on the Ryder cup. But he's the captain and there's pressure to not be on the Ryder Cup. What do you think Keegan Bradley should do as opposed to Will do real.
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Quickly on Fleetwood 7 3, 2 in his career European team in the Ryder Cup. He and Francesco Molinari in 2018 in Paris basically won the Ryder cup for the European side. He's also a silver medalist. He's won seven times around the world. Now he has this win, he's going to bring as much confidence as anybody to best beige black. That's the last thing on Tommy. So for Keegan, same thing we talked about last week, Tony, he is right there. If you took away the captaincy and you put Keegan Bradley up on a board with Ben Griffin, you would take. Ben Griffin's a wonderful player. He's won twice this season. You would take Keegan 10 out of 10 times. He's just. He's just a better player and has more experience, but he's the captain, so he's not sure what to do. I think he played himself onto the team this past week. I just think that he's. He's a better player than Ben Griffin. I think the five guys are locked. I think it's Patrick Candle, it's Cameron Young, it's Justin Thomas, it's Colin Morikawa, it's Sam Burns. That's five. And I think the last spot is between this picks. By the way, will be 11am Eastern on Wednesday morning. By the way is when he's going to be making those picks. The last pick will be either Keegan or Ben Griffin and there's no way, Tony, in the world that you could possibly take Ben Griffin over Keegan Bradley in this scenario, except for the fact that he's the captain. I think at the end of the day he deserved to be on the team at Rome and didn't get picked. He might not have another chance because it's not for another four years in the United States to represent the team. As far as the 12 guys playing, not the captaincy, but as far as playing domestically, I think he's going to pick himself because I think the other guys are going to say to him, hang on a second, you're better than everybody else on that board so you need to be the last pick.
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He can just play the singles and one other match. Do you know what I mean? He doesn't really have to impose himself on the team if he likes the other players. But I. Yes, I think that if he were not the captain, he would be picked. I certainly.
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He would be picked if he wasn't the captain. That's why I was saying, because he's the captain, there's a little bit of, oh, what's going to happen here? But if he wasn't the captain, Tony, this wouldn't even be conversation. You would take Keegan Bradley over Ben Griffin in this particular scenario, 10 out of 10 times. One thing about the format, it's alternate shot Friday morning and Saturday morning, and then it goes to the four ball, which means all four players playing their own golf ball in the afternoon on Friday and Saturday before the singles on Sunday. You have to play the singles on Sunday. That's one thing. But he could definitely, as a captain, I know there's a lot going on, but he could definitely play alternate shot in the morning on Friday and Saturday, get his match over with and then go be the captain in the afternoon. You already, you make your picks for the lineup the night before. So that takes care of the morning. And then in the afternoon, you know, you have assistant captains and you have other people. You've got a little bit of time if you're in that first match to perhaps make those selections for the afternoon as well. So he could definitely do it. It'd be difficult, it'd be a lot of scrutiny, but he could definitely do it.
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By the way, just as an aside, do you know that Garcia and Bargazi played yesterday with Jason Day? Were you aware of this? They played.
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I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure if I was allowed to say it publicly.
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I'm saying it, I'm saying.
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That's why I'm saying it. Garcia text me yesterday telling me about his entire round of golf, the description of playing with Jason Data. He took him to the mat. So I did listen to this. I text Jason and said, hey, I heard you played with a good buddy of mine. Funniest guy I know. But Jason text right back, oh, my gosh, we had such a great time. He is so funny. He's hysterically. We had a blast. He goes, by the way, that guy can play. He took me all the way to the finish. He gave me a hard time as far as the shots I was giving him and the money that was being exchanged. So Jason had a great time with Greg and I know Greg had a blast.
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So Greg says to me, Greg writes to me, didn't say to me, writes to me, I'm getting 24 shots. And I said, no, you got to get more than 24. This guy has won majors. What are you talking about? 24. And he says he ends up. He loses. Greg loses to Jason Day, but he ends up with 27 shots. Something like that. That's a lot of shots.
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Jason text back. He was laughing. Jason's like, I'm gonna tell you, man, your guy gave me a run. Yes, give me a real run. He said it was a lot of fun, but that's very, very cool. Jason, by the way, Jason is a very cool guy.
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He seems to be very popular. Jason Day, people like him a lot.
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Oh, yeah, he's a terrific dude. He's a. He's a really good guy. He's a major champion, a player champion. He might be in the World Golf hall of Fame one day. Very well could be in the World Golf hall of Fame. And our man Greg got to play golf with him and took him to the mat.
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Very cool. It's very cool. Very cool. All right. You'll be at the Ryder Cup. I assume you will be at the Ryder Cup. Yes.
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Yes, sir. Yeah, we'll be in the booth for those morning sessions. Good. Should be a lot of fun.
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Good, good, good.
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All right.
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Have a good week off. If you're off, have a good week off. I'll talk to you later. Thank you.
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Appreciate it. Tony, Be good.
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Steve Sands, boys and girls. There's nothing I know that he doesn't know. I'm trying to, like. I'm trying to, like, surprise him about. About Garcia and I can't. I can't. All right, we'll take a break, come back with email and jingle. I'm Tony Kornheiser.
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Bethesda Bagels. We got the bagel sandwich today. Very happy about that. Just go to BethesdaBaggles.com for the location in the DC area nearest you. Then pop on in and you'll be thrilled.
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And before we get to the mailbag, let me just say you don't know what's going on. You've been away for far too long. You can't come back and think you are still mine. You're out of touch, my baby, my poor discarded baby. I said baby, baby, baby, you're out of time. The Rolling Stones covered that song originally done by PJ Probing.
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I believe you're correct.
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Yes, just a wonderful, wonderful song. Thanks to our guests today. Sally Jenkins, Michael Wilbon, Steve Sands. Thanks as well to today's sponsors. Remember, you can listen to us on Apple podcasts Spotify and Odyssey to get the show through Apple. Please leave us A review from Tim Clark and Fort Mill, South Carolina I've heard several people over my time mention Lake George as a nice place to visit. I never knew exactly where it was until yesterday. Of course, it's located where Dave Carpenter grew up. Thanks for pinpointing it. That's funny. It's in upstate New York.
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We got a bunch of those.
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It's in upstate New York from Tim in Frederick, Maryland. From today's show, Dan Byrne plays in Buster Olney, who is in Lake George, New York. And for those of you who don't know where Lake George, New York is, it's where my college roommate David Carpenter is from. Well, that certainly clears it up. It did for me. Jason Bullitt, Chuck and Roxy 31 Saratoga and 364.5 Saratoga County, New York I had a David Aldrich moment listening to Thursday's show when Buster only called in from Lake George, New York. I said to myself, I know that village and that lake, too. As an upstate New York native, I've spent many a summer's day in the Village, man and boy. Just recently I went up there with my family to take a ride on the Minnehaha steamboat. Beforehand, we went shopping on the nearby street. And while spin art still exists somewhat in a still touristy burg, I'm sad to report that AI generated images have started to dominate that landscape. I also regret to inform you that while I don't know from the Montcalm Hotel, the Montcalm Restaurant is no more. Closing in 2013 after nearly 60 years in business. P.S. tell Kurt in Tulsa, Oklahoma to eat it and have a nice shirt. Yeah, the Montcalm Hotel was there.
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Yeah, I think the next one actually has a photo of the hotel or something like that.
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Okay. Alex Mack in Oxford, England. Our country has four Montcalm hotels. No need to check the Dew point. And if you go to a soccer game, you can tell your friends about it for months. And then from Ken Vastola, who says the Montcalm Restaurant closed. There's a picture of it. The Montcalm restaurant closed in 2013. Lake George is quite a large lake. You were probably in Lake George Village, which is the most commercial area around the lake. It's in the southwest corner of the lake. Buster was on the east side of the lake. More than 20 minute drive up the other side of the lake. Here's a photograph that might stir a memory. It's of the Montcalm Restaurant. That's from Ken Bastol in Del Mar, New York. No, no, because it's the Montcalm Hotel that I remember. Okay, it's the Montcalm Hotel. From Benjamin Ben Finkel, Lake George, New York. I'm riding in with some bittersweet news from Lake George. Sadly, the Mon Calm went the way of chatter closing back in 2013. A true loss for those of us who appreciated a good lakeside cottage cheese. As for spin art, once a staple of Lake George, it too sadly has vanished from the main drag and has been replaced by countless stores selling hocus pocus junk. Consider this my formal application to be your official Lake George correspondent. Please tell Matt McHugh to eat it. Large curd. Marcia Thompson, Ocean View, Delaware. When? I don't know where that is. Do you know where that is?
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Ocean View, Oceanview, Delaware.
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When you were talking about Chessy's medical issues, I believe it was Nigel who asked, but will she be ready for week one? You replied you weren't sure. The man to whom I'm related by marriage said they could put her on the pup list. Oh, wow. I'm wondering if you think that line is grounds for divorce.
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Just west of Bethany.
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West of Bethany, Yeah. Well.
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But close to bear trap for you. Just Golf course reference.
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Yeah. Don Ames in Kingston. In Ontario and Canada, you buried the lead. Did Dr. Pero rail against Neosporin for Just Tessie's wound? Did he prescribe iodine? Inquiring minds want to know. No, he sprayed some stuff on it and gave us a can of spray and WD40. He didn't. He did not talk about Mercurochrome or Iodine or Neosporin. Neosporin, which is, you know, dreadful according to every doctor I've ever talked to.
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In the last Panting has calmed down. Her panting has calmed down.
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The panting has calmed down. It's over week now. So yeah, the panties calm down. From Kevin Crotty, an Army anesthesiologist from 2007 to 2015 and a resident of Dover, Massachusetts. I've been a loyal little for many years. I had my David Aldrich moment on the August 13 episode a hooded seven. At the end of the episode you played a quote from the movie mash. The reason this quote struck me is I just finished reading the book MASH by Richard Hooker the week before. The book was very personal to me in many ways. From 2000 to 2007 to 2015, I was an anecdote in the US army, and during this time I deployed to Helmand Province, Afghanistan. Camp Bastion. Many of the stories outlined in the book were the same things our combat support hospital dealt with 50 years later. One of the book's main characters, Hawkeye Pierce, used to pretend he was a golf pro from any town named Dover, that is New Hampshire, Massachusetts or Delaware to get free rounds of golf. I live in Dover, Mass. Now, these two instances would be enough to count as a full David Aldrich moment, but as you will read, the coincidence run deeper. You see, I was trained in the army to become an anesthesiologist at the old Walter Reed Army Medical center on Georgia Avenue. My oldest daughter was born at Bethesda Naval Medical Center. After graduating from the University of Delaware and before medical school, I lived in Dewey beach for two summers and lifeguarded at Fenwick island while studying for the mcat. I have no idea how I was able to live in Dewey beach, study for medical school and work as a lifeguard, but somehow it all seems to have worked out. Isn't that nice? That is. That's really a nice note from Jim Jesiorski. I hope I pronounced that correctly. We just pulled our potatoes out of the garden today. They were planted around the 6th of May. Three potatoes yielded six pounds of potatoes. Not bad at all. I felt like Matt Damon in the Martian as I pulled them out. I've attached a photo of some of tomatoes Jetstar brand. They are wonderful to eat, just delicious. Please keep up the great podcast. Work with Michael and Nigel. Folks at the gym always ask me what I'm laughing at while I work out. I've enlisted a number of new listeners on the podcast. Thank you. And yeah, look at these. Wow These tomatoes.
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That's a nice yield.
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That looks just great. Yeah, we had good tomatoes this year relative to what we normally get, but they were not good tomatoes by any real stretch.
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Good pepper crop as well.
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Very good. Joe Rizzo, you mentioned your fear of using the Revolution Toaster to make a panini, so I turned to chat GPT and the best I could find was panini pyrophobia, which is the fear of making paninis using heat. It even generated an image. Look at this. Look at this. It's me. And I'm afraid it's from Joe Rizzo.
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It's like you're stuffing a grilled cheese sandwich.
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Ben Snow at North Carolina State University, I come seeking both of your permissions and Dear Don Kornheiser and Michael, I come seeking both of your permissions. I'm pursuing a Master's in international studies at NC State and Raleigh, N.C. have a goal to eventually end up in Washington D.C. as a baseball fan, I would like to ask for your blessing to become a Nationals fan. I was born and raised a Yankee fan. That will never change. But this show and wanting to move to D.C. have led me down this path. Because of this fine program, I'm just as aware of the Nat struggles as I am of the Yankees. I know this is not the day of your daughter's wedding, but I ask it all the same. Thank you and tell Jim Duncan to eat it. That's very nice. You can become a Nats fan and Carl in Oswego, New York in upstate New York, where Dave Carpenter did not live didn't live in Oswego. I hope you were able to catch this Hallmark movie premiere on Saturday. Here is the tagline taken from IMDb quote Nora and James were once the dream team at a top New York ad agency, but now they're locked in a frosty competition for the sweetest client of all. A small town dairy farm that churns out the most delectable ice cream in the country. Of course, it's called Double Scoop and it sounds right up your alley. Hopefully you can catch a replay that's not on quite so late. I know 8pm is too late to start for a movie for you. If you're out on your bike tonight, everyone do wear white.
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Episode 151 – August 25, 2025
Host: Tony Kornheiser
Guests: Sally Jenkins, Michael Wilbon, Steve Sands
This episode features Tony Kornheiser in rare summer form, “surprising” listeners with a show packed with familiar voices. The main theme is nostalgia and change—centered on Sally Jenkins’s departure from the Washington Post—intertwined with reminiscence, sports talk, and a dash of signature banter. Key guests include Sally Jenkins (reflecting on her Post farewell and move to The Atlantic), Michael Wilbon (on the party and the fading newspaper era), and Steve Sands (wrapping the golf season and the Tommy Fleetwood saga). The episode is a rich, multi-generational inside look at journalism, sports, and camaraderie as Tony and friends reflect on endings and transitions.
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The conversation is personal, warm, and often comic, reflecting deep decades-long relationships. There’s a strong undercurrent of nostalgia, straightforward honesty about aging and change (“I don’t remember the 90s”), but also pride and hope for the next generation. The sports analysis remains sharp and insightful, with plenty of sidebars, running jokes, and “inside baseball” moments about both newsrooms and clubhouses.
This episode provides a richly nostalgic farewell to a beloved journalistic era, with laughter and pathos from insiders, while still delivering sharp sports talk and commentary. It captures generational handoffs, the bittersweetness of moving on, and the enduring bonds of shared professional life.
Fans of The Tony Kornheiser Show will especially enjoy the interplay of memory, humility, and humor—and will come away with a clear sense of why these voices and this community continue to endure.