“Work on my dimpling”

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Tony Kornheiser Show

Episode: “Work on my dimpling”

Date: March 4, 2026

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Overview

In this lively episode, Tony Kornheiser dives into a typical wave of topics, anchored by sports but branching out into daily life, pop culture, and listener banter. Featuring extended conversations with NFL insider Jason La Canfora and college basketball/Olympics expert Pat Forde (“40”), Tony and the crew discuss the future of Kyler Murray, peculiarities of Daylight Saving Time, memorable moments from TGL and college basketball, and a spirited recap of the Winter Olympics. As always, a chorus of regulars joins in, delivering the familiar blend of humor and insider perspective that defines the show.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Bread, Ginger Ale, and After-School Snacks

(00:59–02:38)

• The opening brings playful nostalgia as Tony, Jason, and Michael reminisce about beloved bread from Tony’s family and the ritual of tasting ginger ale to ensure optimal carbonation.
• The discussion drifts to preferences in ginger ale brands (“As I got older, I went to Schweppes and Seagrams. And they are indistinguishable for me. I like them both very, very much.” — Tony, 02:12) and newly-established habits like having pretzels and a mini soda as an after-school treat.

2. World Baseball Classic – Pitcher Risks

(02:38–04:13)

• Anticipation for the World Baseball Classic is paired with concern for star pitchers over-exerting themselves due to national pride.
• Tony highlights how “There’s an emotional component that's going to get you to rear back and throw harder than you normally would in spring training at this time.” (02:58)
• Classic moments recalled: Ohtani striking out Trout in the previous tournament underscores the event’s significance for players.

3. Trae Young, Wizards Woes, and NBA Tanking

(04:14–04:51)

• Tony and crew joke about Trae Young being tossed from a game before even debuting for the Wizards, observing the ongoing trend of teams tanking for better draft odds.

4. Blood Moon and Weather Disappointments

(04:51–06:01)

• Tony laments missing a much-anticipated total lunar eclipse (“blood moon”) due to bad weather, humorously noting the prevalence of these events compared to their actual visibility.

5. Daylight Saving Time Rant

(06:01–09:16)

• A classic “Tony rants” segment: Tony rails against the early March start to Daylight Saving Time, arguing it disrupts his routine and is unnecessarily early.
• “There’s two weeks of hatred for me because I’m out there.” — Tony (07:29)
• Jason, as a dad, favors more light in the evening, citing after-school play.
• Discussion includes how kids today have blackout shades that create “tomb-like” rooms, leading to different wake-up challenges.
• Michael checks the rules (Dept. of Transportation sets DST dates); Jason highlights regional exceptions (e.g., El Paso, Indiana).
• La Canfora: “First week after is when you have the most dangerous road conditions where people are just not used to it on their body clock yet.” (09:06)

6. TGL Playoffs, Tom Kim Hole-in-One, and Kelsey Brothers

(09:16–11:48)

• The group marvels at the “made-for-TV” drama of TGL (the virtual golf league) and Tom Kim’s playoff-clinching hole-out.
• Humorous asides: “Did it really go in the hole?” (Jason, 11:25) launches a debate about whether the drama was manufactured.
• Tony jokes that some sports lotteries have always been fixed (Ewing, LeBron), maintaining the show’s tongue-in-cheek conspiracy style.

7. NFL Combine & Kyler Murray’s Future – Main Sports Deep Dive

(15:21–29:00)

Kyler Murray’s Arizona Exit

• Tony and Jason La Canfora dissect why Murray’s time is up in Arizona, with strong critiques for the franchise’s historic mismanagement:
  • “They ran such a third rate, cheap operation, charging guys for Gatorades when they wanted to come in at six o'clock in the morning...” (Jason, 16:38)
• Potential landing spots for Murray: Minnesota suggested as best fit; Jason notes drama of possible Murray-Tua swap, but “I think there are definitely questions about what you're getting in Kyler Murray.” (16:49)
• Jason expresses skepticism about Tua as a viable starter: “I'm not sure Tua is a starting quarterback. Like I think Kyler, especially if he goes to like the Jets or something like that, you know, Kyler is going to get a crack at it.” (20:33)

NFL Combine’s Changing Role

• The combine’s traditional role is waning: more teams are skipping in-person attendance, relying on analytics and virtual interviews.
  • “The combine as we know it is becoming more and more antiquated.” — Jason (21:09)
• Tony: “They're doing it to keep football in the news. They're doing it to have a presence in every single month of the year.” (22:29)

QB Prospect Mendoza: Sizzle or Fizzle?

• Discussion about Mendoza as the likely first overall pick, due to low supply: “He is not the best football prospect in this draft and it's probably not particularly close.” (Jason, 24:51)
• Tony: “Is he a can't-miss generational quarterback? Is he even what evaluators thought of Trevor Lawrence in this same spot?” (24:52)

Franchise Tags & Notable Moves

• Minimal surprise: Only Pitts and Pickens tagged. Jets criticized for tagging Breece Hall rather than trading him.
  • “Who is the one team you're giving Aaron Rodgers a big boy contract when the rest of the league is like he's a backup now? It's the Jets.” — Jason (25:10)
• Chicago Bears’ center retiring at 27: Not as shocking in today's NFL, following trends set by players like Andrew Luck.

Gambling Corner

• Jason plugs “Want to Bet with Us” and touts recent gambling success, mentioning heavy “littles” (TK show fans) influence (28:03–28:58).

8. Olympics Recap: Hockey, Curling, and Venue Vibes

(31:12–32:48, with Pat Forde)

• Pat Forde rates the most recent Olympics as “really good,” with great stories and venues, naming hockey as a major highlight (“The hockey was incredible. It was the clash everybody was hoping to see.”—Pat, 31:49).
• Comedy in curling’s omnipresence: “They’re curling forever. Nobody has left the curling venue.” (Pat, 32:12)
• Tony quips, “Every single day. There's no other sport. Every single day. Curling was on every day. Wow.” (32:24)

9. College Basketball – Seeds and Stresses

(33:00–42:42, Pat Forde)

• Detailed analysis of seeding, conference power, and surprise programs:
  • Miami of Ohio at 30–0: Forde argues they must be included even with a soft schedule: “There's never been a team since they expanded the bracket to 64 in 1985 with two or fewer losses and 30 wins that hasn't gotten in. So they're in.” (38:09)
• Tommy Lloyd (“Arizona is soft”) and Kentucky’s Mark Pope are scrutinized for (under)performance.
• Tony and Pat agree that most top seedings are set; loss in conference tourney likely won’t demote top 4 locks (37:17).
• On mid-major regular season champs: Tony raises whether regular season or conference tournament champs ought to get the NCAA bid.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Daylight Saving Time:
  • Tony: “There's two weeks of hatred for me because I'm out there.” (07:29)
  • Jason (as parent): “The big thing for us is you can get them outside after school... it's all about routine. Getting into bed at the same time and just trying to get them out of bed...” (06:34)
• On TGL:
  • Jason: “Now the question is, did it really go in the hole? It slowly rolls back. Didn't really go in the hole.” (11:25)
• On Arizona Cardinals:
  • Jason: “They ran such a third rate, cheap operation, charging guys for Gatorades… they sucked some of the life out of that situation.” (16:38)
• On College Basketball Seeds:
  • Pat Forde: “There's never been a team since…the bracket to 64…with two or fewer losses and 30 wins that hasn't gotten in. So they’re in.” (38:09)
• On Curling:
  • Pat Forde: “They’re curling forever. Nobody has left the curling venue.” (32:12)

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Important Timestamps

| Time | Segment/Discussion | |------------|-----------------------------------------------------------| | 02:38 | World Baseball Classic pitcher worries | | 04:14 | Trae Young’s D.C. debut (or lack thereof) | | 06:01 | Daylight Saving Time rant | | 09:16 | TGL drama, Tom Kim’s playoff hole-in-one | | 15:21 | Jason La Canfora on Kyler Murray & Arizona Cardinals | | 21:09 | Combine losing relevance, analytics shift | | 24:51 | Mendoza—QB draft analysis | | 25:10 | Franchise tags/Breece Hall/Jets criticism | | 31:12 | Pat Forde Olympic recap, hockey highlight | | 33:00 | College basketball’s enigmatic characters | | 38:09 | Miami of Ohio 30–0 seeding debate | | 42:45 | Pat Forde plugs “Others Receiving Votes" podcast |

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Tone & Style

The episode is classic TK Show: warm, irreverent, and quick-witted, mixing nostalgia and complaint (“old man yells at cloud”), with left-field detours and plenty of sarcasm. Banter never gets in the way of genuine sports insight—a hallmark of Tony and his frequent guests.

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For Listeners/Newcomers

This episode is representative of the Tony Kornheiser Show’s unique appeal—a place where sports news merges with personal pet peeves, pop culture, and heartfelt listener involvement. Whether it’s complaining about DST, dissecting quarterback drama, or recalling childhood bread heists, Tony and crew keep things sharp, relatable, and funny.

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End-of-Show Notes

• Familiar mailbag read and jingle, several “Littles” shout-outs and community stories (food, bagels, and sports connections included!)
• Classic signoff: “If you’re out on your bike tonight, as always, do wear white.”

Transcript

[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

Previously on the Tony Cornhauser Show.

[Jason La Canfora]

You gave us a chunk of bread, did you? Oh, I had the boys lined up like pigeons that I handed out.

[Tony Kornheiser]

How great it was. Great it was. That's all I'm saying.

[Jason La Canfora]

There is one. You would not remember this. You brought home a bread when I was a kid and you left it on the counter. And over the course of an afternoon I went up and I slowly picked out all the inside of the bread, leaving the outer crust.

[Jason Locke]

Really perfect crime.

[Jason La Canfora]

Yes. Until Tony found it. You were as angry as if someone opened up your ginger ale in the fridge.

[Tony Kornheiser]

This is General George Washington and you're listening to the Tony Kornheiser. It was a great bread. Elizabeth's bread was a great bread.

[Michael]

Phenomenal.

[Jason La Canfora]

You would always test the ginger ale to make sure it had the carbonation.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, I mean, I don't drink much soda, you know, but when you do,

[Michael]

you want it to be carbonated.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. It's like, who's that? The smartest man in the world.

[Michael]

Oh, yeah. I don't often drink beer, but when

[Tony Kornheiser]

I do, it's those.

[Jason La Canfora]

The most interesting man.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Most interesting man.

[Michael]

Who's back, by the way.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Great campaign.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Ginger ale. Yeah. And sometimes orange soda.

[Jason La Canfora]

Orange soda. Well, that's only at games. Were you a Schweppes guy or Canada Dry?

[Tony Kornheiser]

I started out as a kid with Canada Dry because it was the only ginger ale I ever saw. As I got older, I went to Schweppes and Seagrams. And they are indistinguishable for me. I like them both very, very much. Schweppes and Seagrams. Yeah, it's fine. So I would buy whatever. I'm now buying those minis. They're about 5 ounces.

[Pat 40]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You know, and. And eating a pretzel with them. And it's a new routine for me. Like a.

[Pat 40]

It's good routine.

[Tony Kornheiser]

The Uncle Jerry's Pretzels, that's your after school snack. Yeah, that's pretty much it. And so I really like that. All right. A lot of things to talk about. Nothing important, but a lot of things. World Baseball Classic is going to get underway pretty soon. There is the fear factor with the pitchers.

[Michael]

Oh, sure.

[Tony Kornheiser]

A couple of great pitchers. A lot of really good pitchers. And Skubal and Skeens are going to pitch. And their teams are afraid. Their teams are afraid because there's an emotional component to this. Because you're wearing the United States on your jersey. There's an emotional component that's going to get you to rear back and throw harder than you normally would in spring training at this time. So, I mean, I'm happy that they want a pitch.

[Michael]

Who was the kid from the Mets? That wasn't. It was celebrating after a win. Yes.

[Jason La Canfora]

Oh, yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He was out for the whole year after the whole year. The World Baseball Classic means more to baseball players than it means to us.

[Michael]

Probably means more.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And what came around last time was the end of the World Baseball Classic. It was Japan against the United States. And Shohei Ohtani struck out Mike Trout.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And that's why Scuba and Skeens want to pitch. That's why. Because that's an indelible moment. So I understand how that would. Nobody's worried about their everyday players. Their everyday players are playing like it's spring training. Maybe they're a little bit more jacked up. But you worry about pitchers. You worry about. Because pitchers tear their arms, you know, when everything's being protected. So you worry about that. That should be fun. Some of it should be fun to watch. How about. Trae Young hasn't played a minute for the Wizards and got tossed out of a game.

[Michael]

Off to a great start.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Tossed out of a game. Now, his debut is supposedly tomorrow night against the Utah Jazz, the two worst teams, both of whom are trying to lose. So this could end up as like a 9190 game. And we'll see if Trae Young's any good.

[Jason La Canfora]

And then running clock at the end.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Jason La Canfora]

We'll see.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, right. Like a scrimmage in high school. We'll see if Trae Young wants to continue to play with the Washington Wizards. We'll know by the end of the year if he plays all the rest of the games or if he comes up with an injury and he's in street clothes next to Anthony. Street clothes. Davis. Right.

[Jason La Canfora]

All about being a good teammate.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So, you know, we'll see. We'll see how, how that works. I was very disappointed yesterday in the clouds and the rain. Oh, you couldn't see light snow. I could not see the full moon. No, the, you know, you know, the scarlet moon because it was a total lunar eclipse. Couldn't see it. I guess you could. I don't know where it was visible mostly in North America, but I thought maybe in the east coast, but I'm not sure even of that. I'm sure some of our listeners saw it. Yes. Was a blood. Was called a blood moon.

[Michael]

The blood moon.

[Jason La Canfora]

Yes.

[Michael]

And it was visible around 6, 6:30am yesterday?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, I was up, but it was not. You were outside raining? Yeah, it was not visible here in Washington. Not visible. So that's the way it goes. But it gets me to one of my favorite topics. One of the things that makes me very angry. I just saw. I looked at a calendar yesterday, looking ahead to see what's going on this month. If there's anything I need to know in terms of, you know, my PTI schedule. And so I was comparing days with them. This Saturday night is daylight savings time. This Saturday night. What day is that? The seventh.

[Michael]

It feels early, doesn't it?

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's ridiculously early. Was it like now? I got up this morning. I'm telling you that this is going to be a shock to your system because it's not going to be.

[Jason La Canfora]

The first two weeks are.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's awful. The first two weeks are awful. You walk the dog in total darkness. You need a flashlight. I'm going to ask you, as the father of three young children, would you rather have light in the evening or light in the morning when they're going to school?

[Jason La Canfora]

Oh, 100% in the evening, which is, I don't think where you're going.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Really.

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[Jason La Canfora]

Yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I wouldn't. I don't know.

[Jason La Canfora]

The big thing for us is you can get them outside after school. So the worst time is right before the holidays where you essentially get out of school and it gets dark. So it's a shock to the system, but it's all about routine. Getting into the bed at the Same time and just trying to get them out of bed, which is already hard enough because the big thing that you don't remember is the kids now have these shades that make their bedrooms tomb, like where nothing gets them.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I don't remember it because I don't know anything about it.

[Jason La Canfora]

I know, but like, it was something that we didn't have when I was a kid. You sort of woke up.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Blackout shades? Yeah. In a kid's bedroom?

[Jason La Canfora]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's insane. Don't you want to look out the window and see what's going on?

[Jason La Canfora]

We open them during the day. What I find is it's hard when you sort of see the extra light and you think it should be warm and you still have weeks of it being cold and light at about 6:30 to 7.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So you and I differ on this completely. I would much rather have the light in the morning than at night in a transition period. Why can't they have daylight?

[Jason La Canfora]

If I had older kids and I was worried about them walking to the bus stop, that would be a different story.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Why can't they have daylight savings time April 1st or at the beginning of spring on March 21st? Why does it have to be on March 7th? Whose idea is this? Whoever it is, somebody is somebody in charge of this and the rest of the country goes along it. I think it's a. I hate it. There's two weeks of hatred for me because I'm out there.

[Jason La Canfora]

So it's a week and then you sort of get used to it. But if you were a local restaurateur and you could get people in for that, you know, patio happy hour and get people out enjoying shopping, walking the streets. But yes, it does feel too early.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Too early. March 7th. I can't believe it was always March 7th. First week in March. I mean, doesn't make sense to do it on calendar spring. Doesn't that make sense?

[Jason La Canfora]

Oh, we had meteorological spring that happened

[Tony Kornheiser]

already, but calendar spring, to me, that's what you ought to do. Well, I know we're going to get email on this because half the people think I'm an idiot and half the people agree.

[Michael]

So I'm seeing this. The Department of Transportation determines this. And apparently there was something since 2007 that says Daylight Savings Time begins on the second Sunday in March and ends on the first Sunday in November, who

[Tony Kornheiser]

is the Secretary of Transportation.

[Jason La Canfora]

Now, aren't there some, like, some time zones where they don't necessarily follow all this?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes, there's a part in Texas, El Paso is different than Dallas, Phoenix only Has two time zones.

[Michael]

I think some bloke named Sean Duffy.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Can we call him? Get him on the horn? I mean, let. We got a couple of days. See if you can call them and make sense of that. There's.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Now, Indiana has different time zones in it.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Jason La Canfora]

For both changes. I feel like the first week after is when you have the most, you know, the most dangerous road conditions where people are just not used to it on their. On their body clock yet.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Don't. I don't like it at all.

[Jason La Canfora]

After last night. Is TGL gonna make pti?

[Tony Kornheiser]

What do you mean? Is it gonna make. Oh, no, I don't think so.

[Jason La Canfora]

There's a hole in one to decide the playoffs.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Who won?

[Jason La Canfora]

Tom Kim. Oh, Tom Kim. Holes out. A wedge shot. Tiger's fist pumping. They're all going to the ground. They're so.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's Jupiter 1.

[Jason La Canfora]

Yeah, Jupiter 1.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I had that. I said for sentimental reasons.

[Jason La Canfora]

Tiger, Rory in round one of the playoffs.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh, I got that right.

[Jason La Canfora]

The Kelsey effect. Come on.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So I hope that. I hope we do that. You should.

[Jason Locke]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Was Travis Kelce at that one, too? So the other night, like, I don't know him. I've never met him. Everyone likes his work.

[Jason La Canfora]

Jason. Jason traveled the entire stadium. I now know this because we took, you know, we got to see some of those rooms. He was everywhere.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Which Kelsey am I talking.

[Jason La Canfora]

You're thinking you're going to go into a story about Travis?

[Tony Kornheiser]

No. Is Travis the one who's marrying?

[Jason La Canfora]

Yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, no, the brother.

[Jason La Canfora]

Oh, Jason.

[Michael]

Jason.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Everybody likes him.

[Michael]

Everybody likes his funny ads.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, well, I don't know about the ads, but on tv, they like his work. The other night he was at TGL and he was chugging beers and. And mixed drinks with people in the audience. And that was a segment, and it seemed. Yeah, it seemed me relatable. He seemed like, you know, he seemed like sort of the best of the common man, A variety host, even though

[Michael]

he's big, a calmer, more fun version of Gronkowski, maybe more stable.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh, different. Completely different than Gronkowski.

[Jason Locke]

Okay.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Gronkowski. You look at Gronkowski and you sort of think he knows. He's acting like he's being very deliberate.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

There is a natural quality to Kelsey.

[Jason La Canfora]

Yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Maybe he's acting, but much of it's through his eyes.

[Jason La Canfora]

Much of it is through the eyes. He just feels like he's connecting with you.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. You know, so.

[Jason La Canfora]

Yeah, it's like he was touring the commissary yesterday and picking up a chicken wing.

[Jason Locke]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So. So Tiger's team made the playoffs. Yeah, they were the underdogs.

[Jason La Canfora]

No injuries reported. When Tiger was getting, you know, Tom Kim.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Tom Kim is fabulous because he's so excitable. He's the best guy on this show.

[Jason La Canfora]

It is exactly what TGL needed. And clearly the last two weeks, they've given this league the full court press.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes, yes.

[Jason La Canfora]

To see if they could get a little bit of a bump. And I imagine after last night, they got the bu. Now the question is, did it really go in the hole? The hole in one.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What do you mean did it?

[Jason La Canfora]

I'm just saying you hit it past the hole. It slowly. I mean, we all know space jam. It slowly rolls back. Didn't really go in the hole.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh, oh. So this was not on the green area. No, this was hitting.

[Jason La Canfora]

It was a full wedge shot on a part.

[Michael]

You know, so you think maybe somebody just say it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Jason La Canfora]

Last hole, Hammer Thrones.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Good idea.

[Jason La Canfora]

Great idea.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Look, if they fixed it good.

[Jason La Canfora]

No, they didn't fix it, but I don't know.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I believe. I believe the lottery was fixed for Dallas last year with Cooper Flagg. I believe the lottery was fixed with Patrick Ewing. I believe the lottery was fixed with LeBron James. I do.

[Michael]

What was the rumor about Pat Ewing?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Cold. It was cold.

[Jason Locke]

Dry.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Ice cold. Yeah, the envelope was cold. They knew to pick it. All right, we'll get out of here. Jason Locke. And for when we return, I'm Tony Kornheiser.

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Very good.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Again, called Head Dragger plays in our friend Jason Lock and Fora and we're going to talk about the combine. I mean, I think we probably have to start with Kyler Murray and The fact that the brand new coach who was Matt Lafleur's brother, has informed the world and Mr. Murray that his services are no longer required in Arizona. This is a guy who won a Heisman. He was the number one overall pick, if I'm not mistaken. And his first three years at Arizona, even though burdened by the terrible karma of Cliff Kingsbury, who cannot win any games in the second half of seasons, like he starts 5 and 1 and then in finishes 5 and 8. But Kyler Murray, I said yesterday on the PTI show, like, I thought he was Lamar Jackson west of the Mississippi. I thought he was really good. What happened?

[Jason Locke]

Yeah, I mean, I think it's a confluence of events. Arizona, I mean, I don't know, remind me of the success they've had at the quarterback position. You know, historically, organizationally, institutionally, I, I can't, I struggle to find it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Kurt Warner for a couple of years. Kurt Warner, couple years.

[Jason Locke]

But even then, that's after somebody, somebody else made Kurt Warner, you know what I mean? And they got him at the end.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes.

[Jason Locke]

And the real, the real great, truly Bidwell esque thing about that is part of the reason he was ready to move on the way he was and get out of there is because they ran such a third rate, cheap operation, charging guys for Gatorades when they wanted to come in at six o' clock in the morning and have early practices and not wanting to pay to, you know, stock the cafeteria. If Kurt Warner wanted to really change their franchise and have guys in the building before they had to be and all that stuff, trust me, they sucked some of the life out of that situation. They probably could have got another year, at least one more of competitive football out of Kurt Warner, one of the greatest playoff quarterbacks of all time. But no, that fell into their lap and they couldn't even maximize that. So that's a part of the equation for sure. You know, I think the Kingsbury part of it was problematic. I think Tyler had a lot of growing up to do and I don't think they had the right band of adults around him to show him enough tough love and sort of show him the way. I think there are certainly questions to ask about Kyler himself and just how much of vocation is this for him and how much of a job is it for him? And we're going to find out because he's going to get paid way more money by Arizona not to play for them this year than he's going to get paid by wherever he lands. And I'D throw a dart at the New York Football jets, which, if that's the case again, Godspeed. Yeah, because you're going here, you know, you're going out of one barn door and into another. Like, what do they, what do they know about developing anything? But that's, that's where he is. Minnesota, I think, would be the best spot for him, and maybe that's where he, he lands. But I think there's definitely questions to be asked about what you're getting in Kyler Murray. And, you know, back when we still had a Washington Post sports session, RIP And I was still writing at the NFL for them, you know, back in November, I was hearing, like, loudly that this wasn't a medical thing so much. What percent it was a medical thing in that let's keep him on ice. Let's, let's not owe him any more future money on injury guarantees. Jacoby Brissette's our better quarterback right now. And no matter who the next coach of the Arizona Cardinals was going to be, LaFleur or if they got, you know, Davis Webb or Steelhouse or whatever, Kyler Murray was going to be gone. And now Kyler Murray's basically gone.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Could you see Tua and Kyler Murray changing spots?

[Jason Locke]

Sure.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Jason Locke]

Yeah. I mean, yes. Yeah, I, I could. I, I, if I'm Leflore, I really don't know, but I've talked to a lot of people about this for a long time because these, this, again, this is not a new development. You know, like, I think that people are more intrigued by Tyler. They see more upside, significant upside in Tyler than to a. Because Kyler does, he's willing to push the ball downfield. Tyler, does he activate his legs as much as he probably should? You could make the case in recent years, not especially in the second half of seasons, where maybe because he's a smaller guy, he runs out of gas, I don't know. But I think Tyler offers you a much richer sort of template to explore than Tua does at this stage. And that's not even really, I mean, part of that, I guess, is factoring into concussions, but two is not doing much for you outside the pocket. Tua is not wanting to push the ball down the field at all. It's coming out in, you know, two seconds. It's, it's, it's not going that far downfield. And then we're, you know, we're running the line and we're doing it all over again. And you add the concussions, you know,

[Tony Kornheiser]

factor on top of that it's understandable.

[Jason Locke]

I'm not sure too is a starting quarterback. Like I think Tyler, you know, especially if he goes to like the jets or something like that, you know, Kyler is going to get a crack at it. I'm not sure that that too is.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What was the biggest news out of the combine? Was it this or was it something else?

[Jason Locke]

No, I mean, look, I, I don't think anything that happened with guys lifting weights and who's going to run and who's not going to run and who's going to throw and who'. Throwing. I just think that that's as Poppycock.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, that's a show.

[Jason Locke]

Honestly, the biggest takeaway for me from the combine is more teams are just wholeheartedly staying away. More teams are just sending low level scouts to do the interviews and their football people are staying in their building and they're getting, you know, they can watch everything and everything's fed to them from the numbers, you know, the analytics. The analytics come straight to their, you know, that comes straight to their computer systems and they can talk to the agents over zoom. They don't, they don't need to be at st. Elmo's at 3 o' clock in the morning. So I think the combine as we know it is becoming more and more antiquated. I mean, even the Senior Bowl, I have had so many people, agents and teams just saying, man, the senior bowling, what it used to be like, we don't know that we need to send as many contingents there as we did in the past. I think people are learning to work a little smarter, a little more efficiently. And in a sport where, you know, it's a race to who can get in the building first and who can leave the building last in season when you are out of season, and especially times like this when players aren't in your building yet, you know, let's. Do we need to take a week out of our lives? You know what I mean, to go eight days to bring, you know, 80 people, personnel and all that stuff to Indianapolis.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, I think it's a way.

[Jason Locke]

I mean it's not, it's not 1978 anymore.

[Pat 40]

Like, why are we doing this?

[Jason Locke]

Why are we doing this?

[Tony Kornheiser]

They're doing it to keep football in the news. They're doing it to have a presence in every single month of the year. That's. It's a show, it's a television show. That's why they're doing it. The one thing I was curious about, and I saw Dan Orlovsky on ESPN say this about a week ago that he had looked and it's him. You know, it's not. He's not presenting information from a battery of people. He said I had looked at tapes of Mendoza. I don't see that much and I wonder if you'd heard anything like that. Is there any jeopardy to him being the overall one?

[Jason Locke]

There's not jeopardy because supply, demand, the usual economics and the fact that a third of this league needs a quarterback and the Raiders perpetually need a quarterback and Tom Brady I think likes the cut of his jib. So no, I don't think he's going to be dealt like I don't think that pick's going to be dealt. The Raiders are going to take him. Now is he truly a 1 1? I know. Is he a better football prospect and take position out but you can even lead position in because a lot of the guys who are superior to him do affect the quarterback in a massive way which. So that's a premium position. I'm not trying to sell you on, you know, you know an inside linebacker who just gets everybody aligned and doesn't. Doesn't make plays behind the line of scrimmage. No, there's. He's not the best football prospect in this draft and it's probably not particularly close. And I'd also posit when it's all said and done, the distance between him and the second quarterback and that second quarterback might be a kid from North Dakota State, Colton, who nobody's ever heard of before. And it's not the kid from Alabama, I can tell you that Simpson. But like the gap might not be as extreme as people are going to tell you but this court, this draft is so bereft of top end quarterbacks and the free agent class when we're sitting here talking about a failed column Murray and a failed to a tongue of a low and you know, so there's just not much out there. So because of all those market circumstances he will be the first overall pick and people will understand why he's the first overall pick. But is, is, is he a can't miss generational quarterback? Like is he even. What evaluators thought of a Trevor Lawrence in this, you know, same spot, whatever. How many years ago that was? Five or six.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Five or six.

[Jason Locke]

No, he's not.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay.

[Jason Locke]

He's not.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Did any. Any franchise tags or the sort of lack of franchise tags surprise you?

[Jason Locke]

No lack of franchise tags. Not at all. We thought it would just honestly be Pitts and Pickens.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Jason Locke]

Wrote about this my Buddies in London. Sportsboom. Sportsboom us. You check me out there? Of course, I've got an item this morning. Of course the one that is, has people shaking their heads a little bit is Breece Hall. Yeah, the jets tore it down to the studs. They couldn't get what they wanted for this running back, which, which who's been available in trade. People been talking about Breece hall and trade, you know, for over a calendar year. They couldn't get what they wanted for him. Which kind of told you where the league was on him yet. They want to secure his rights at over $14 million for one year and give him a whole lot of negotiating leverage between now and July 15th to do a multi year deal. Because if you're the jets and you think you're rebuilding again and he's 25 and you want to pay him 14 for one, then you probably want to pay him 50 something for three, don't you? Like so. But then it's also back to sort of why. And by the time you come around on the other side of it and he's 27 or 28 and he already, you know, has injuries, deep injury history. Like does that, does that really make sense? And if you wanted to be strategic, you'd put the transition tag on him. No one's going to sign an offer sheet. You're not going to get two first round picks for him with a non exclusive tender. You could save yourself three and a half million dollars, sign them to a transition tag, have more leverage with them, you know. But just who is it, you know what I mean? Who was the one team you're giving Aaron Rodgers a big boy contract with the rest of the league is like he's a backup now, you know, he's certainly a low level starter. He's not, he's not a franchise savior. It's the Jets. I mean they fired the whole coaching staff and kept Aaron Glenn. Like what? Like why? Like Frank Reich will be coaching the New York jets by, I don't know, Halloween bucket.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, one more. The Bears center. This destroyed Wilbondalman retiring at 27.

[Jason Locke]

Yeah, you know, this isn't quite, I think the, the bolt of lightning it would have been, you know, five, six, seven, eight years ago. We've seen, you know, Luke Keakley and other guys leave sort of at the heights of their prowess. You know, it's Andrew Locke, right?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes, yes.

[Jason Locke]

You know, so this is the, you know, we're in a different world now and these, these guys have avenues available to them. And information available to them year after year year about their their medicals and and what have you and other inherent risks and yeah, I mean look the this is not a very good free agent class by any stretch of the imagination and there's not a lot of guys who I think are going to make good teams great or certainly put great teams over the top.

[Pat 40]

But if you want a center.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Tyler Linderbaum, Baltimore Ravens yeah, I was at that. I was surprised.

[Jason Locke]

He does it for you.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Talk.

[Jason Locke]

Want to bet athletic Want to bet Great Back to back three lobster nights for me. Really Mr. Tony yes sir. No lie. You can check it. We document it all. I've lost one bet on one bet in the discord the last two days. That was Liverpool crap in the bed for us yesterday but we won the Everton parlay Loyola College I call it a college loyal university. Lacrosse was A no sweat. Minus 105 against Towson. It destroyed the Tigers battle Charles street we're in college baseball. We're in baseball futures. We're in obviously the NBA and the NHL rebound parlays. Whatever. We wherever we see a potential strategic advantage, we're on the lines. We're putting in our discord and we're talking about it on Want to bet? Want to betwithus.com we have a heavy, heavy littles factor and we love it and we appreciate it and we love what you guys do for us. So if you're going to gamble, check with us first. Want to bet with us?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Thank you Jason.

[Jason Locke]

Thank you guys. Have a great one.

[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Jason La Canfora]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Pat 40]

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[Michael]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Pat 40]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Jason Locke]

This early.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I hate it. All right, it plays in Pat 40. This segment with Pat 40 is brought to you by FanDuel. Make every moment more. And I want to talk about the upcoming tournament, but before I do that, the Olympics. You went to the Olympics? You've been to a lot of Olympics in general. Did you rate it in the good or in the disappointing?

[Pat 40]

Oh, in the good. I thought it was really good. You know, a lot of great stories, compelling dramas, surprises, disappointments, great scene, great host country, spectacular venues. It was good. I wouldn't say it's the best I've ever been to, but it was. It was really good.

[Tony Kornheiser]

The hockey was a delight to view on television. It really was. The hockey was great because, you know, the right two teams were in the final. So it was really nice.

[Pat 40]

The hockey was incredible. It was. Yeah. It was the clash everybody was hoping to see.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Pat 40]

You know, it's like when you get the two heavyweights that make the final Four championship game and then, you know, the drama and the tension in the building and then, you know, the emotion afterwards with Johnny Goudreau's jersey and the family. It was good stuff.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I assume they're still curling. I assume if we went back, they'd

[Pat 40]

still be curling until further notice. Tony, they're curling forever. Nobody has left the curling venue.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Unbelievable.

[Pat 40]

Play so many matches. It's incredible.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Every single day. There's no other sport. Every single day. Curling was on every day. Wow.

[Pat 40]

Yeah, it's kind of like cagey strategy on behalf of the sport, I guess, that, like, you have to watch it if you're going to watch the Olympics. And so then all of a sudden everybody's like, yeah, I like curling. Yeah, because you always see it. It's Like a soap opera. General Hospital. It's on every day.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's amazing. All right, let me move to the United States of America and to college basketball. And let me start with the kid at usc. What was that? What is the backstory on that?

[Pat 40]

Well, Chad Baker Mazara has a lot of backstory. I mean, this is a guy who has been a handful for his entire seven year career.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He's like 26.

[Pat 40]

Yeah, he's 26 years old. He's attended four Division 1 colleges, plus a juco. Auburn was the only place that could handle him for two years. Bruce Pearl put up with a lot. He did not make it through the full year at usc, obviously. You know, there was some belief. He got. He got hurt in that last game against Nebraska. Left the bench, came back, sat on the baseline in the seat there. Some people have told me that other USC fans, players have sat there before this year. So I don't know. But he was really not a participant in the huddles or anything else thereafter. And, you know, Chad Baker Mazzara is who he is in his college career. Seems to be over. You never really know these days.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, he'll apply for a waiver and he'll get, you know, he'll play at least 30. All right. The other thing that stands out, Tommy Lloyd, the coach at Arizona, goes on the microphone and says, I can't believe people are saying that we're soft. You know, we're a West coast school and we're soft. Who, who, who has seen them? Who would say that? They don't take any threes. They pound it. That's big boy basketball. What is he talking about?

[Pat 40]

Yeah, I have no idea. I don't know. Because, yeah, they, you know, he's built on the Gonzaga model where he was an assistant coach to mark few forever, which is like giant people out there, Right?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Pat 40]

Big teams that throw it inside a lot.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes.

[Pat 40]

And so that's, you know, I've never seen that as a criticism of this Arizona team, but it's that time of year, coaches are all irritable. You know, you get to this point and everybody's cranky. They just like, just get us to some tournament basketball, please. And thankfully we're there.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's fine. I mean, I just thought, like, who is this guy? You know? And I know he's had great success there, but not in the tournament. Not in the tournament, Right.

[Jason Locke]

Correct.

[Pat 40]

He has not been past the sweet 16. Right. He's got a major element there that he still has to prove. He has not really broken through to the level where people are going to now say, okay, you're one of the best in the country.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. So I'm not a big fan anyway. All right, your top four right now. Your top four seats right now.

[Pat 40]

Top four in order right now, Michigan one. Barely overdue. Really? Yeah, it's close. I mean, look, if you ask me, tomorrow, it might be different. Florida 3, Arizona 4.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Arizona has beaten Florida. Arizona beat Florida head to head.

[Pat 40]

They did, long time ago. Florida's different team now.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's what I said about Notre Dame football. And Wilburn yelled at me. He said, well, Miami beat him head to head. And I said, it was in August. And Wilburn yelled at me, well, you know, the.

[Pat 40]

There's certainly more chances for do overs in basketball than there is in football. It's, you know, like, look, Duke again, though, you watch him on Monday night. So my evolution was this, Tony. Friday night I watched Michigan win at Illinois. Destroy them.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes, they did. They did. Yes.

[Pat 40]

Then I watched Duke at noon against Virginia. Like, maybe that's the best team.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right.

[Pat 40]

Then I watch Arizona in the afternoons, like, maybe it's Arizona. Then at night I watch Florida's like, oh, it's definitely Florida. And then I watched Duke again Monday. I was like, that's probably Duke. So, I mean, I've been all over the board, but here's what I love. We've got those four teams, plus UConn.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes.

[Pat 40]

You've got every one of the major conferences represented. You've got every region of the United States represented. And you can have this debate and this argument. There's five teams that look like they've separated and who knows, you know, we're going to throw them all into a hat and pull out some seeds and let them go at it in a couple of weeks. And I think it's fantastic.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What is your experience tell you, aren't most of the seedings done already? And even if these five top teams lose in their conference tournaments, won't it have little to no effect on the seedings?

[Pat 40]

I think so. I think at the top end, the seatings probably are pretty close to done now.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I mean, the only question is, is it UConnor? Is it Florida? Right. That's the only question.

[Pat 40]

I would think so. You know, unless. Unless, you know, if Arizona loses early, maybe It's. Maybe it's UConn and Florida and Arizona gets bumped to a two, but probably not. You know, we're probably done. We are probably at the top end. You know, the question then. Yes. Who's the one and who's the two between the last number one and UConn as the first number two and who those. One of those, you know, would have to play them eventually in a regional final, theoretically. So, you know, for now, I think the committee's got other issues. One issue they don't have, by the way, Miami of Ohio.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I wanted to ask you about that. They have to go in, don't they? They have to.

[Pat 40]

30 and oh, I was just looking this up before we got on the phone here. There's never been a team since they expanded the bracket to 64 in 1985 with two or fewer losses and 30 wins that hasn't gotten in. So they're. They're in. The worst they can be is 30 and two right now. All right, 30 and oh, right. They got one regular season game left. If they lose that and then they lose in the first round of the Mac 30 and 2, they're getting in or else there's something really rotten going on. So I think, sorry, Bruce Pearl, you can keep ripping them all you want. They're getting in.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I would, I would throw back at you just for the sake of argument. The fact that their strength of schedule is 321 out of 365. Their non conference strength of schedule is 360 out of 365. We like to call Binghamton area because we haven't done very well this year at all. But that's what I would throw back at you. But I believe, as you believe that they need to get in. Even if they get beat in the first round by 50. They need to get in.

[Pat 40]

They do. Or else what are we doing as a sport? You're basically telling everyone outside the power conferences there's nothing you can do to make the tournament at large. Literally nothing. Because 30 and oh isn't going to be good enough. Or 30 and one. Come on. I mean, like we have. We would have completely invalidated the regular season for 270 teams out there.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. This is not football. It's not football where there's a limited field. There are 37 at large bids here. Miami of Ohio should be able to get one of the 37. Lenardi told me the other day that he thought they'd be in an 89 game. That, that they would.

[Pat 40]

That could be.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Pat 40]

You know, again, I was. I've been looking for precedent of this and like, do you Remember George Washington 20 years ago? They're really good team. They ended up 26 and 1 and then they lost in Their conference tournament game and they were an 8 or a 9, I can't remember. I think maybe a 9. They got in at 26 and 2. So I think they're not only in, but they're in with room to spare now that they won last night, although it was another heart attack game. I was there.

[Jason Locke]

And

[Pat 40]

they like the close ones.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Who did they play last night?

[Pat 40]

Toledo, who's pretty good and won four straight championships in the Mac regular season. Yeah. You know, I mean, their margin for error is not big. Miami, but they don't care. They find ways to win. It's remarkable.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I would, I would bet you that a lot of college coaches in those kinds of conferences would say whoever wins the regular season should get the bid, not the conference tournament in a one bid.

[Pat 40]

Oh, yeah, you know, yeah, they. Yeah, they respect the regular season champion for sure. And who is, who is the Toledo coach last night? Went to bat for Miami big time. Said they need to be in.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, let me ask you this. And this is because I watch these games on tv. I watch Duke, Syracuse. I watch Duke, Notre Dame. The guy at Syracuse is failing. The guy at Notre Dame is failing. Juwan Howard failed at Michigan. The guy at Louisville failed. Closer to, you know, where you live, how about Mark Pope at Kentucky? Is he failing?

[Pat 40]

He is not failing yet, but he's also not thriving. He's not. It's not good, but it's not. We're going to fire Mark Pope. Not after two years. They did make the tournament last year. They made the sweet 16. They've had injuries both years, multiple, you know, season ending injuries. There's still no excuse for them to be this bad and to get housed by Texas A and M last night or whoever the heck they played. And they lose too many bad games. And they spent a fortune on this roster. I think it's probably the most expensive roster in college basketball. And so they're just getting nothing out of it. So Kentucky's athletic director since 2002 just announced yesterday he's retiring. So it's like, I'm not fired. Mark Pope.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right.

[Pat 40]

Let the next guy decide this. There will be pressure on him next year for sure. But for now he's. He's okay. He will coach again at Kentucky in 20, 26, 27.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Because all those people I listed, they look like they're done. They look like. And some of them have been done. Two of them have been done.

[Pat 40]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And Michigan and Louisville got much better when they made changes, right? They got much better.

[Pat 40]

They did. They did. Absolutely. And you know, I'm not saying Pope is going to turn it around, but I don't think he will be two years and out.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. All right. Want to plug your podcast?

[Jason Locke]

Sure.

[Pat 40]

Others receiving votes Sports Illustrated, si.com get it on YouTube, Apple, wherever the heck people get podcasts. The greatest podcast. It's not the Tony Kornheiser Podcast, but it's right there.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's right there. Do you have a video component on that?

[Pat 40]

Oh, of course.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. We don't do that. We don't. It's. We don't do that. I don't want to do that.

[Pat 40]

You know what? You also actually just have a quality show. You're not trying to gin things up. So anyway. But yes, we have a YouTube component. Please watch.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Thank you, Pat.

[Pat 40]

Thank you.

[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Pat 40]

Love that.

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Yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Before we get to the mailbag, let me just say, don't want your love anymore don't want your kisses. That's for sure. I die each time I hear this sound. Here he comes. That's Kathy's clown, Everly Brothers, one of the greats of all time. Thanks to our guest today, Jason locke and Fora Pat 40. Thanks as well to today's sponsors. Remember, you can listen to us on Apple Podcasts Spotify and Odyssey. Get show through Apple Podcasts Please leave us a review from Scott Gurney in East Selkirk in Manitoba, which is in Canada. Yes. Who says he's a size 11 and a half B with hey Mr. Tony, now 46. Now that the cat's out of the bag concerning your new shoe operation, I've just got two words for you. Franchise opportunity T Kicks will make a killing in the Canadian market. Between Dave J in Newfoundland, east coast and me in Manitoba, Canada's Midwest, we've got over half the country covered. All we need is a loyal little in British Columbia for total countrywide domination. Have your people call my people. From Tim Ratigan in LaGrange, Illinois, I am emailing with a concern regarding the price I'm paying for shoes purchased from your company. As you know, I'm a longtime customer. Love the option to lock in a price at the beginning of the shoe season that will carry me throughout the year. In fact, I have taken advantage of this option every year. As I assume you know for some reason I was not notified of the lock in option this year. When I called and spoke to your manager, I was told that since I did not opt for the lock in price, I must now pay the market price for my shoes. I responded by saying that your record should indicate that I chose this option every year and good customer service would be to allow me to lock in now at the current market price for the remainder of the year. The request fell on deaf ears. Have you ever heard of such a. This is brilliant.

[Pat 40]

Word for word.

[Tony Kornheiser]

This is everything I've said about Sherman Oil that is completely brilliant. From Michael Baranek, Dr. Kornheiser, with your newfound excitement for the Arnold Classic Arnold in Columbus, Ohio. I'm willing to drive to Columbus and meet you, Michael and Nigel at the Thurman Cafe in the German Village area. They have a burger built for the bodybuilders that flock to Columbus Anne and they call it the Therminator. I've included a picture of this beast with this email. It's gigantic. Absolutely gigantic.

[Michael]

Yeah, it's huge.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Start from the bottom bun and go up. Mayo, lettuce, tomato, pickle, banana, peppers. 12 ounce burger. 12 ounce burger. Bacon cheddar, a second 12 ounce burger, sauteed onions, mushrooms, ham, mozzarella and American cheeses. And close the list with the top bun. As of 2025, the cost is 27.99 with fries.

[Jason La Canfora]

Deal.

[Tony Kornheiser]

If I remember correctly, two times the burger King Whopper meal. This is hands down better than a Whopper. It's gorgeous.

[Michael]

Yes, it really is.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's at least two people. Oh sure, at least two people.

[Jason La Canfora]

It's a date night.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Brian. Yes, Brian Sunix, Last week you expressed amazement about the connection between Arnold Schwarzenegger and Columbus, Ohio. It started when Arnold won the 1970 Mr. World competition. An eight foot tall bronze statue commemorating the achievement is now located outside the Greater Columbus Convention Center. Photo attached where the annual Arnold Sports Festival is held. Unfortunately, ice cream meeting is not an event, but there is a Jenny's Ice Cream a two minute walk away. Yeah, there's a big statue of Arnold when he was a bodybuilder and it just says Arnold. It just says Arnold.

[Jason La Canfora]

Wow.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And we're getting another. We got lots of these. This is from Ryan Gesser in Atlanta, Georgia and pictures are available with it. Imagine my delight catching up on Wednesday's POD when I heard your new good friend Todd Harris announce that his next assignment is the Arnold Sports Festival in Columbus, Ohio during the first weekend of March. I said aloud, I know that festival because I'm a two time weightlifting medalist earning silver medals in 2020 and gold medals in 2023, parenthetically within my weight class and squarely middle aged masters division. So let's not get too excited. The Arnold Sports Festival is a bucket list item for competitors, spectators and fitness enthusiasts alike that features a massive fitness and wellness exhibition and national level competitions for professionals and amateurs in bodybuilding, weightlifting, powerlifting, strongman and strong woman, arm wrestling, boxing, multiple martial arts disciplines, cheerleading, dance and even pickleball and foosball. I probably failed to mention a few given that I witnessed medieval jousting during my last visit within weightlifting alone. This year's competition will feature a mechanical. American. Olympic medalists from the 2024 Summer Games were likely to repeat in LA in 2028. And yes, Arnold is in the building as evidenced by photographic documentation. I offer my attachment to you and your viewers on News Channel 8. He roams the training hall where I happen to bump into him, hosts final sessions in the elite bodybuilding competition and is likely to show up in the front row of just about any amateur professional contest. Sadly, I won't be attending this year after spending the last year rehabbing injuries while getting deeper into middle age, and I haven't reattained the qualifying standards in competition. But my coach, and he's in the pictures, will himself be lifting in a Sunday afternoon session. Hopefully next year. I'll be back. Check out Todd's coverage. You won't be disappointed. Isn't that great?

[Michael]

That's this weekend?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes, that's this weekend from Paulie Coconuts in Winchester, Virginia. Let me help you with this chili thing. Best chili in the D.C. area. Hard times Cafe. That's the list. Honorable mention to the Vienna Inn, but only when served on their world famous chili dogs with a cold draft beer. Shout out to Oakton's own guitar hero extraordinaire, Punky Meadows, who when he goes to Vienna Inn can eat it. David Reedman. Aloha, Mr. Tony. In the 50th state, chili is always served with two scoops of white sushi rice. Ultra short grain rice. That's good. That's what I would like. I like it over rice. From Carrie in Bangor, Maine. I was heading up to the lake this weekend. Ice fishing on the agenda, Turkey chili on the menu. It's about a half hour from my house, not too far from the University of Main Campus. As is tradition for any stretch of highway longer than 12 minutes, I queued up the latest episode of the TK Show. The topic chilly, already feeling seen. But then in a moment that can only be described as radio fade, I pull into a gas station and what rolls in beside me? A full size bus from Binghamton University. The Bearcats themselves. Boom. I'm not saying the universe revolves around the TK show, but evidence is mounting. And then he shows a big picture of beautiful bus.

[Michael]

That is nice.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Beautiful Binghamton bus. Show that to Michael. Yeah, we have a. We have a haiku from Shad. A fine line between friendly chili cook offs and free meals for old folks. From Andrew from Innisfil. Just catching up on yesterday's podcast. You seem to be reaching for the name of an Italian restaurant used to frequent. Might it have been Villa Piano's? You know, the spaghetti joint by the airport where you and your pals would go to dance and meet girls, but only once. The house base plan. The house band played that up tempo number. I'll hang up and listen for the rest. Hope that helps. It's funny. Kevin Ripley, as an avid follower of you for many decades and a dedicated listener to the podcast, I was pleasantly surprised when I heard you mention Mangiano's on Monday's episode. I am the head of culinary or culinary for Maggiano's and I can confirm that I believe it was Maggiano's we experienced the Chicken Vesuvio nice that you spoke of as it was a customer favorite on our menu for years. It gives me honor to think of you dining at our Columbia location or any of the others near your several homes and at Elizabeth's Dish Refresh. That Memory. Anyway, keep doing what you're doing. I'll keep looking forward to every Monday, Wednesday, Friday, to hearing you and the boys. Well, we're going to be Monday, Wednesday, Thursday this week. Yes, that's right.

[Michael]

Tomorrow.

[Tony Kornheiser]

A little bit early. Yes, but. So it was at Magian.

[Michael]

But I thought it was the other place, right?

[Tony Kornheiser]

I think it was. Yes, I think it was. That's a mori. But Maggiano makes it too, so that's good. From David George in Maple Valley, Washington on Monday's show. Your discussion of sourdough bread and the suggestion for your daughter to sell her wonderful loaves had me enthralled. Once Michael mentioned focaccia bread, I knew I had to chime in. You see, my wife and I bake focaccia bread for sale at our local farmers market in Maple Valley, Washington every Saturday during the summer.

[Jason La Canfora]

What do you mix in?

[Tony Kornheiser]

We do a ro. Thank you for asking. We do a rosemary, garlic, sea salt and then a seasonal special. We also make chocolate chip and walnut chip. Walnut chocolate chip cookies, both with miso. So I've heard plenty of Littles write in from surrounding areas like Snoqualmie, Snohomish and Seattle. So hopefully, excuse me for coughing, they can add this to their summer to do lists. Anyway, that's my long winded way of saying I couldn't agree more with your suggestion for Liz and her loafs. Hope to hear more conversations of sourdough dolph conditions in the D.C. area and solicitation emails for years to come. Oh, and if it's not too much, could you please tell Amelia George to eat it?

[Jason La Canfora]

Need to work on my dimpling.

[Tony Kornheiser]

From David George. I wonder if any relation to Amelia George? Tony, I'm writing again to include the name of my bakery. Peace Loaf. P E A C E. Peaceloaf Bakery. What's a shameless plug without the name? Let it be known that I flushed the mouse. Missing that with my first email. If any of these get read, that's fine. Eric Loop State College, Pennsylvania. Home of old ups.

[Jason Locke]

Yeah.

[Michael]

University of Penn State.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Saltines. Hold my beer. Melba toast. Melba toast. Okay.

[Michael]

It's not Saltines.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, Saltines is Matt Quigley in Galloway. Not Galway, New Jersey. Galloway. You know. Right.

[Jason Locke]

Galloway.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Dear Grandpa is a South Jersey restaurant consultant of the TK Show. I felt it was my obligation to provide my $0.02 after listening to you and Leonardi talk about bagel shops in the area. Next time you're in Egg harbor, take the short drive over to Northfield and hit up Hot Bagels and more. Without question, the best bagel in the area and the closest thing I've had to a genuine New York City bagel. They also have locations in Somers Point in Margate. Not only are they the undisputed number one overall seat in the South Jersey bagel bracket, but they are John Wooden, UCLA Bruins dynasty of bagel shops having won the Best of the Atlantic City Press award every year. Bagels have been a category. Can't recommend them enough. Next time you're in the area. Also, feel free to share this knowledge with Lenardi. And if, and if, if he likes it and wises up on his bagel selection, perhaps we can call him Joey Bagels as well. From Matt Quigley. Send it. Make sure Lenardi knows about I will make sure Mark Lynch, Camby, Indiana you mentioned that your daughter doesn't listen to the podcast. My daughter doesn't listen to your podcast either. Thanks for the update from Neil AES Hoopster Tony Trey Young, the Wizard's new prize guard, posted this box score line Monday night. No points, no assists, no rebounds, no time played, one injection. If the Post had a sports department, it would have led with the headline Young Makes Seamless Transition. Yeah, if you're out on your bike Tin everyone as always do wear white.

[Band Member / Musician]

Who made the egg salad sandwiches? Old devil whiskey whispering in my ear tell them the things that I wanna

[Tony Kornheiser]

hear

[Band Member / Musician]

Black blood flowing coursing through through my vein I'm devil whiskey take away my pain I swallow down my mind not smoke take your toe put up shut up head drag on your head's a mess head dragger

[Pat 40]

you never confess.

[Band Member / Musician]

Now those brass bells they do a ch. My fight always coming up my life dust in blood it fills me in my eyes I swallow down the spine lot of smoke take toe put up shut up Head drag on your head a mess head dragon

[Pat 40]

you never confess.

[Band Member / Musician]

Sam. Tell him the things that I wanna hear Black blood flowing coursing through my veins I'll devil whiskey take away my pain I swallow down my spine lots more take a toe put up shut up Head drag on your hands on this head dragon you never confess.

[Jason Locke]

Sam.

[Band Member / Musician]

I don't care if it's right no feelings inside now the lights they are low and I hold on to the glow there's one thing I know

[Jason Locke]

these

[Band Member / Musician]

cracks hurt me so and I sink to the drink till the feelings are gone. Don't tell me how to bleed. Lay dying at your feet. Now the hearts they are breaking all the risk that we've taken now the lights they are low I hold on to the glow there's one thing I know these facts hurt me

[Tony Kornheiser]

and I

[Band Member / Musician]

sink to the drink I don't care anymore. Don't tell me how to bleed. Lay dying at your feet

[Jason Locke]

Be.

[Band Member / Musician]

Don't tell me how to play. Lay dying at your feet

[Jason Locke]

J.