“WSI”

Summary

Podcast Summary: "WSI" Episode of The Tony Kornheiser Show

Release Date: January 15, 2025
Host: Tony Kornheiser
Guests: Chuck Todd, Tim Calishaw
Production: This Show Stinks Productions, LLC

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Introduction

In the "WSI" episode of The Tony Kornheiser Show, host Tony Kornheiser engages in dynamic conversations covering a range of topics from sports highlights to management decisions in the NFL. The episode features insightful dialogues with guests Chuck Todd, a seasoned political commentator, and Tim Calishaw of the Dallas Morning News. Additionally, the episode includes light-hearted segments with Reginald Lamonkey, providing a blend of serious analysis and entertaining banter.

Segment 1: Analyzing the Recent Golf Event

Discussion Highlights:

• Tony Kornheiser initiates the conversation by referencing a recent golf event featuring prominent players like Tiger Woods, Kevin Kisner, Max Homa, Justin Rose, Colin Morikawa, and Sahib Tagla.

• Chuck Todd critiques the performance of the golfers, pointing out inconsistencies and lackluster play. He remarks, “They’re not good, these golfers. This is not anything like what you see on a real course” (05:00).

• Tony shares his perspective, appreciating the entertaining nature of the event despite the players' underwhelming performances. He states, “I enjoyed it. It’s entertaining. It’s not golf” (08:52).

Notable Quotes:

• Chuck Todd: “More of a cordazip guy myself.” (02:09)

• Tony Kornheiser: “My theory on this is cranked up.” (07:02)

• Chuck Todd: “They build this as real golf, but with more excitement. Okay, so this is not real golf.” (07:23)

Segment 2: Navigating Live Show Challenges

Discussion Highlights:

• Tony delves into the unexpected technical difficulties faced during his live show on PTI, explaining how he adapted by relocating downtown to continue broadcasting seamlessly.

• He emphasizes the importance of professionalism and the mantra, “The show must go on,” highlighting his dedication to maintaining the flow of the show despite setbacks.

Notable Quotes:

• Tony Kornheiser: “This is a command decision. And I called Matt Kelleher and I said, can you get me a car? I’ll come downtown.” (12:26)

• Tony Kornheiser: “The show must go on.” (12:27)

Segment 3: Betting Insights with Chuck Todd and Reginald Lamonkey

Discussion Highlights:

• The trio discusses recent sports betting outcomes, focusing on Chuck Todd's performance in betting picks. They analyze various games, including Houston vs. Kansas City and Washington vs. Detroit.

• Chuck Todd shares his betting strategy, expressing skepticism towards teams like Houston, while Tim Calishaw provides his insights, favoring teams like the Ravens due to key players like Derek Henry.

Notable Quotes:

• Tim Calishaw: “I like Derek Henry. That’s what I like here.” (29:11)

• Chuck Todd: “Don’t pull a Darnold.” (19:06)

• Tony Kornheiser: “You can’t assume that no matter how indestructible he seems that a 30 plus year old running back is going to be there next year as effective as he was this year.” (29:23)

Segment 4: NFL Management and Coaching Decisions

Discussion Highlights:

• Tony and Tim explore the recent managerial decisions by Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys, particularly his move away from coach Mike McCarthy.

• They analyze the potential reasons behind Jones's decisions, discussing the impact on the team's dynamics and future prospects.

• The conversation also touches upon the speculation surrounding Deion Sanders and his fit as a coach within the NFL, debating his ability to integrate with established teams like the Cowboys.

Notable Quotes:

• Tony Kornheiser: “But the Cowboys don’t need that. Their brand is already too big.” (43:54)

• Tim Calishaw: “I don’t think you can get his son with the 12th pick.” (51:32)

• Tony Kornheiser: “He is Deion Sanders. He played there. And if you look at the last three, once Parcells left...” (48:08)

Segment 5: Listener Interactions and Sponsor Messages

Discussion Highlights:

• The episode features engaging interactions with listeners through emails and messages, showcasing personal stories and humorous anecdotes.

• Sponsors are seamlessly integrated into the conversation, with promotions for Collars and Company, Chubb Casino, and Simplisafe, each presenting offers and endorsements that align with the show's casual and informative tone.

Notable Quotes:

• Tony Kornheiser: “They have the exact right shoes for whatever you’re into right now.” (00:11)

• Reginald Lamonkey: “I have not yet worn them.” (15:43)

• Tony Kornheiser: “If you’re looking for a performance dress shirt or polo that looks great all day, check out collarsandco.com and use the promo code Tony for 15% off any purchase of a hundred dollars or more.” (16:30)

Conclusion

In the "WSI" episode, Tony Kornheiser successfully balances in-depth sports analysis with light-hearted discussions, providing listeners with both informative content and entertaining segments. The interactions with Chuck Todd and Tim Calishaw offer valuable insights into sports betting and NFL management, while listener contributions and sponsor messages add a personalized and sponsored touch to the overall experience.

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Timestamp References:

• 00:11: Commercial advertisement for DSW shoes.
• 02:04: Introduction to the segment on the moon.
• 05:00: Discussion on the golf event.
• 07:02: Tony's theory on the golf event.
• 08:52: Chuck Todd's comment on the entertainment value.
• 12:26: Live show challenges.
• 19:06: Chuck Todd's advice on betting.
• 29:11: Tim Calishaw's preference for Derek Henry.
• 29:23: Tony's comment on running backs.
• 43:54: Discussion on Cowboys' brand.
• 48:08: Deion Sanders and Jerry Jones conversation.
• 51:32: Tim Calishaw on Deion's coaching prospects.
• 15:43: Listener Regan Stewart's message.
• 16:30: Sponsor message for Collars and Company.

Note: Timestamps have been included as references to key moments in the transcript to enhance the summary's alignment with the actual content flow.

Transcript

[Tony Kornheiser]

Hey, it's Tony. On today's show, we'll talk to Chuck Todd as he makes his weekly picks against Reginald Lamonkey. We'll also chat with Tim Calishaw of the Dallas Morning News about what's going on with the Cowboys. But first, as always, kids, commerce.

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[Tony Kornheiser]

Previously on the Tony Kornheiser Show. I watched this commercial and I don't even know what it's for. I think it's for this event that Eli and Peyton Manning are in where Eli, fantastic. Says he wants to be a kicker.

[Chuck Todd]

Never gonna make it as a kicker.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, he wants to be a kicker. And Peyton Lapp, they're wearing wigs.

[Chuck Todd]

It's the costuming that makes it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's just fantast. Fantastic. And Peyton says, no, Eli, you destitute.

[Chuck Todd]

You're gonna be a quarterback.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Like a quarterback like me and your daddy, you know, just. It's just so. I don't know what it's for.

[Chuck Todd]

We have the same reaction.

[Tony Kornheiser]

This is General George Washington and you're listening to the Tony Kornheiser Show. Peyton and Eli Manning own sports tv. They're the largest brand. Peyton and Eli Manning, they own it. They, you know, get out of the way. They're worth it.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

I went and watched the ad immediately after the show of money.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's wonderful. It's just absolutely wonderful.

[Chuck Todd]

More of a cordazip guy myself.

[Tony Kornheiser]

We have a few things to talk about here. We're gonna start with the moon. This is probably the last great night of the moon Sunday Monday, Tuesday, great nights. You know, Wednesday morning, great nights for the moon. Right. What are your thoughts on the moon? It's so beautiful.

[Chuck Todd]

There's gotta be something about the cold air that is just making it so. To see definition on the moon's surface.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You see people on the moon. You see the, you know, the craters on the moon.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

See where Neil.

[Tony Kornheiser]

See the tunnels on the moon. See where the golf ball went.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Yeah, I was going to say where Neil was chipping.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. I mean, it's. It's just. It's awesome.

[Chuck Todd]

Didn't replace the divot.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Don't you think it's awesome?

[Chuck Todd]

It's stunning.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's awesome.

[Chuck Todd]

I get a text from Liz. The moon is still out because you have affected our family.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's infected. In fact, the money. The moon is gorgeous.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Does this have a special name?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Is it like, it's the first moon of the year? First full moon, so I don't know.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Okay.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Is it the wolf moon? Because apparently, according to the haiku from she had little old lady mutilated late last night playing the full wolf. Maybe it's called the wolf.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Look into that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I don't know, but it is gorgeous. I don't. I hope you get another night out of it.

[Chuck Todd]

The wolf moon.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. It's really beautiful. It's. It. It. When you look at it and stare at it, there is a certain spiritual quality that. That envelops you.

[Chuck Todd]

It's thought wolves howled more at this time of year as there was less food in the middle of winter, according to my AI search.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, well, they. I would know.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Allen Iverson.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Hey. I would know. That's what Rob. Uncle Rob used to say. AI Excuse me. Let's get in the car.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Excuse me, ma'am.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Let's go. One other thing. Let me. Let me talk about the. The golf. I went to dinner last night. I went to Colombia to Italian night. It was really good. Food was really good. Sat with Al, Serafino and Gail. We. Who we like very much. And Al and I play golf together all the time. And Al occasionally listens to the podcast and I saw him.

[Chuck Todd]

Did he add occasionally? He added occasionally. Sort of seems like a burn.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, I added occasionally.

[Chuck Todd]

Okay.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I don't. I don't want to speak for him and say listens all the time, but, you know, I saw him the other night and I said, we're gonna. Carol and I are gonna go to Italian night. Would you and Gail join us? And. And it is a. It's price fixed and it is menu fixed. There's. You don't order. You get either want this or you don't want this. And it was really good. And I was very happy to have gone because.

[Chuck Todd]

What was your favorite bite?

[Tony Kornheiser]

My favorite bite, actually was of the lobster ravioli. Not. Not ravioli. The lobster pasta. That was really, really good. The whole thing was really good.

[Chuck Todd]

Pick out all the lobster.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I tried to. I tried to get into the dish before they did, before anybody else did and got the lobster. I tried to push past the salad course. Totally ate like a pig. I mean, I was not. I didn't. I wasn't dainty. I didn't cut the food well or anything like that. I just swallowed. I was hungry. I'll get to. I'll come back to that in a second. But I got home in time to watch the last 30 minutes of the golf. Unlike my son, who thought the golf again would start at 9:00.

[Chuck Todd]

Well, I made the last 30 minutes, but I thought I was going to show up for warmups or something.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. So it started at seven and went to nine. Tiger was playing. Everybody gets to wear their own shirt. You have to wear the right color, but everybody gets to wear their own shirt and rep their own companies that they have deals with.

[Chuck Todd]

Yeah, it's a. It's a commercial.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Tiger was there. On Tiger's team was Kevin Kisner and Max Homa. And the other team was Justin Rose and Colin Morikawa and Sahib Tagala. Yeah, right. Tagala. It was no match at all. Like the. The Tiger team lost that. They lost every hole. They brought the hammer. Yeah. Which I don't truly understand.

[Chuck Todd]

Brought it down on the first hole.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So let me. Let me try and go over this because Michael and I differ on this. I thought it was fun. I really liked the pace of it. I thought it was fun to watch. But I will say this, and if Michael wants to contradict me, that's fine. They're not good, these golfers. This is not anything like what you see on a real course. They're hitting tee shots. They're landing in sand or landing in ditches or landing in the water. They're hitting chips that are nowhere near as close.

[Chuck Todd]

I think Kisner ran out of balls.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Kevin Kisner just was. He was terrible. And he said I'm terrible. And when they putt, they putt on the green that you see, they actually putt. This is not simulated, the putting. They don't hit it. Justin Rose had one putt. Sure.

[Chuck Todd]

But I walk into it on a par five, a screen par five, where Justin Rose and Tiger both three putt from 35ft.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's just. Yes. It's like they're not any good. My theory on this is cranked up.

[Chuck Todd]

The greens are cranked up to 11.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes. But it's not a real course. Like, it's different when you're standing at a real course and you have a sense of the distance you need and you have a sense of the contour of everything you. You are dialed in in a different way. They're laughing. They walk up there and they let. They're having a good time. I'm having a good time watching them because they're not as good as they usually are. Sure.

[Chuck Todd]

My only issue is they build this as real golf, but with more excitement. Okay, so this is not real golf.

[Tony Kornheiser]

But it's a good show.

[Chuck Todd]

It's getting to be a good show.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's my point.

[Chuck Todd]

Okay, so what do you think? I went back and watched highlights. Tiger woods walking into eye of the Tiger. That's cringe.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. Yeah, that's right.

[Chuck Todd]

Everyone wearing the Tiger woods red with the Peter Millar for Kisner in bold letters on the back.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It just.

[Chuck Todd]

It feels like you were in a commercial for PGA Tour Enterprises PGA Tour Superstore with a chance to buy the new model driver that's coming out. I thought it was very telling because.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That'S what it is.

[Chuck Todd]

Sure, at the end, but they wanted it to be real golf at the end of the match. Yeah. You have Max Homa, who is having a blast and is yapping, has great asides. That is what you want. You actually sort of want that in real life.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Max Homa should be there every day. He should play on every team.

[Chuck Todd]

He should be the playing MC for this. When he looks to his side and goes, when does the Duke game start? It's just great. That's what we're all thinking.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Chuck Todd]

But after the viral moment where Kevin Kisner blades it, blades it out of a bunker, Tiger's joking. It's still rising. It's gonna clear the bleachers. That's fun.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Chuck Todd]

Max home is laughing sort. He has to step away from a shot again. The shot clock picks him up. So he rushes and hits it into a fake penalty area.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I enjoyed it. It's entertaining. It's not golf. Golf is the backdrop. They are humanized to the degree that they allow themselves to be humanized. And they're not very good. And that makes you happy.

[Chuck Todd]

Tiger still looked a little slow even walking inside a, you know, an airplane hangar. He blade or he doesn't Blade it. He hits a wedge shot over. Agreed. Into a. Again a fake penalty area. He leaves a bunker shot in the sand. I just wonder the actual quality of this stuff dilutes it. And again, when you think about trust, when you're looking at these launch numbers, how can you actually start to invest your own money if you're thinking about trusting the competitiveness of this, the betting of it, when there seems to be so many misfires for players who know every single detail of their game? I love one pitch shot. Colin Morkawa had to hit a. A flop shot over a bunker.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Chuck Todd]

And he just hit it to, you know, to stone dead. Two and a half, three feet. It was a great shot. And that is what I wanted to see more of the shots inside of 50 yards where you can see them play different flights.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You want to see that. You want them to have to.

[Chuck Todd]

A little bit of nervous real ball.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Onto a real surface and not into a screen. But I'm. I'm not taken by it to the degree that I would never not watch it.

[Chuck Todd]

Oh, no.

[Tony Kornheiser]

But when it's on, I'm gonna watch it. Sure. But it's sort of fun.

[Chuck Todd]

Lean into the entertainment. Just.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I would.

[Chuck Todd]

Honestly, I would watch those four if you'd had Tiger and Max Homa, Kon Morikawa just doing challenge shots, playing some version of horse around a game. I would watch that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Right. So. So, you know, they had a good.

[Chuck Todd]

Interview with Keegan, who was there in full cameo with the mustache. Yes, who was there. And. And I thought it was very interesting. Yeah. He's a huge supporter of all this and he had the greatest turn from full swing when he didn't get picked for the Ryder cup team and got his own episode out of this. But to hear him talk about just hearing the sounds of the stadium and being just in tune with the different. The beeps, which sounds like a Metro train is about to arrive. Doors closing for those of you who live in the DMV area.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So. So you don't hate it?

[Chuck Todd]

I don't hate it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I sort of like it. I sort of like it. One other thing I need to talk about if I have time, and it's my show, so I do. You too.

[Chuck Todd]

Unless it's a Helen Day.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Some of you may have seen me on PTI last night in studio, and you may have wondered, what's that? Because the beginning of the show, I very deliberately said when. When Wilbon opened, we rewrote the open to accommodate this. And Mike said, I'm in Philadelphia on assignment. And I said, I'm in the studio. What are you doing? What do you mean? Why are you not here on assignment? So Yesterday at about 3:15 or 3:20 or 3:30, I came downstairs and said to Nigel, what's going on? And he said, we don't have a camera. It's not working. I said, oh, and there's a possibility that it will work, but there's a possibility that it won't work, and it's too late in the game to get somebody else to do the show. So by 3:40 or so, I said, okay, this is a command decision. And I called Matt Kelleher and I said, can you get me a car? I'll come downtown. And he said he ordered an Uber and said, it'll be there in five minutes. And I went and put on clothes, you know, to go downtown where the agent man won't let you down. And so you sold to the company, but forget who you are. You're a rock and roll star. So the Uber's there because you can't get a cab anymore. No, cabs don't exist. Like, you can get an Uber. That's what you can get. I get in the car and I go downtown and I do the show from downtown. Because. Because like they say, and there's no business like show business. The show must go on.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Like, I can't not do this. I am close enough to do it. It's inconvenient for me, but I don't have. I don't have equipment. So I go downtown. And it's not that I'm looking for applause or anything, it's just the right thing to do in an Uber. Yeah.

[Chuck Todd]

Did you ever consider driving your own car?

[Tony Kornheiser]

No. No.

[Chuck Todd]

Did you ever consider having Nigel drive your own car?

[Tony Kornheiser]

No. No. I called up for a car because I felt, you know.

[Chuck Todd]

What level of Uber did you get?

[Tony Kornheiser]

I got the nice Uber.

[Chuck Todd]

Okay.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, Yeah, I got the nice Uber. Not that, you know, what you were doing drop offs. We're not getting into. You know, some guys battered Prius. We're not doing that. But Matt did this, and so went and got a car going home. Yeah. And all of that. And. And that was the. That's what I'm doing.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

What time did you get there?

[Tony Kornheiser]

About 10, 12 after 4. You know, went right to makeup. Right. And went in and did the show.

[Chuck Todd]

Did you do anything that would mess up Kelleher's Uber rating?

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, I don't think so. I was very nice to the drivers and all of that, and it worked. Well, and that's why you saw that. Don't. Don't get greedy. Kids don't think this is gonna happen a lot now if the. If the screen here is fixed. Because Mike's. My point about this is very simple. If Mike's not there and we're going to be on split screen anyway, you know.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What's.

[Chuck Todd]

The screen is a screen.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. What's the difference? And today Mike is in Philadelphia again, and then tomorrow Mike is in Chicago. You know, Mike. Mike does what Mike does.

[Chuck Todd]

As a curious viewer, how often do you think they ping the camera in your house to make sure that it is sending a signal?

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Well, we have to turn it on. Once it's connected, then the camera company can sort of monitor it. So we finally got it working again yesterday.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, but I couldn't take that chance.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Yeah, but. So all night they've been monitoring and then I'll be in. I'll sort of babysit it today to make sure it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And it worse comes to worse, this is what's going to happen from now on.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Yeah, but I. But I think we're okay.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, well, we'll see. All right, we will take a break here. Chuck Todd.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

That's right, Chuck Todd.

[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Reginald Lamonkey]

Oh, that's right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

They were really pretty.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I have not yet worn them. I. I just, I haven't. You need to wear them under a sweater. I mean, if you're going to go out, you can't wear them under a vest because they are short sleeves. I mean, you can, but the whole purpose is to wear them under a sweater. And I haven't worn them yet. And I was looking for that bunch. Yeah, I don't have. I don't have that many sweaters anymore that, you know, the traditional either V neck or crew neck sweater. Which. On top of which they're gonna look great. Right? Right. Yes. Under which. Rather not. No, the sweater would be on top, but I haven't gotten to that yet. And I'm. I look at them and I. They're really how they feel. They feel great.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Chuck Todd]

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[Regan Stewart]

Right out of that neon blue your boots came walking in through that door One round turned into this is Regan or Reagan Stewart.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Do we know if it's Regan or Reagan?

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Not sure. I said Reagan in my head, but it could be Regan.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He says, I'm a singer songwriter living in Nashville, Tennessee. I love what you do love for one of my songs to be considered for your podcast. We're the ones that are flatter. Okay, this is really good. This is called Dandelions.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

This is the last one.

[Tony Kornheiser]

The Last one.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

The last one.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes.

[Chuck Todd]

Some Lainey Wilson.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Yeah, yeah, very much so.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I mean, this is talent. What is she doing on our show?

[Reginald Lamonkey]

This is so good.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Wow. Yeah.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

I feel like this is talent. She's going places.

[Tony Kornheiser]

She's playing in Chuck Todd. Chuck. That's talent, right? Did you listen to that? That's really good.

[Tim Calishaw]

I, I, I could. Now that's a country song.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Tim Calishaw]

And more importantly, after the week I had, I need a good country song. Complaining about my. I think the only betting friend I have is going to be my dog.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. This week's picks with Chuck Todd and Reginald the monkey are brought to you by FanDuel Sportsbook. Make every moment more what Chuck is alluding to. He was one in five.

[Tim Calishaw]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Last time. He's now seven and 13 over the last three. He's 66, 55 and three. So if you bet every time with Chuck Todd, you're making money. And since there are only seven possible games left to pick, he cannot be losing. You will, you will walk out of here betting with Chuck Todd making money. But it's, you're closing like the Minnesota Vikings. We don't want this. Right.

[Chuck Todd]

Don't pull a Darnold.

[Tim Calishaw]

It's suddenly like, you know, getting your 5% interest in it in a CD and going, oh, well, okay. You know, it ain't Tesla stock.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, it's okay. Well, we're just going to go right to the games. We've got four. Unless you also want to pick the college game. That's up to you. You don't have to. We give.

[Tim Calishaw]

All right, then I, Why not? I'll add that in there.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. What is the line on that? That's got to be near 10.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

I think it was nine and a half, but let me, I'll double check.

[Tim Calishaw]

It was down to eight and a half, but I'm not yet. Thought I did snap down to eight.

[Tony Kornheiser]

We will say you'll check. Nigel will check that. But let's go to the games. I guess we are going in order of when the games are and wisely, the people who decide when the games are saving the best game for last. That's Baltimore and Buffalo. That's the one everyone wants to see. And they're giving it a 6:30 start.

[Chuck Todd]

Thank you.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Which couldn't be better.

[Tim Calishaw]

That is, you will be able to stay awake at least through the third quarter.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. I may go the distance. I may go the distance if it's a great game. These games have a tendency to disappoint because you're really Jacked up for them. I will start with Houston at Kansas City. Houston surprised me by beating the Chargers. The Chargers were terrible. Justin Herbert was terrible. He had three interceptions all year and had four in this game, three of which were his fault. Houston is now playing with house money. They're at Kansas City. Kansas City had the bye week. Kansas City. Their starters haven't played in a year. I mean, they took the last game off and then they had the bye week. It's an eight point game. That's a lot. But Kansas City is Kansas City who you got?

[Tim Calishaw]

Yeah, I'm, I'm going to do Kansas City here. I don't, I don't believe in Houston really that much at all. And then of course, what is it? Andy Reid after a bye week and. Yeah, that business. And it just, you know, we, I know they don't like to blow teams out, but I don't know how Houston keeps up. Right. They didn't even in that sense, that Chargers game, it, you know, it took forever for them to get to sort of get back to sort of win that game. Right. It didn't feel it was as much the Chargers handing them the game than Houston going to, quote, unquote, win the game, if you will. So I, I don't buy them. This feels like a 24 to 3 game.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Tim Calishaw]

Like if you tell, you know, something, not, not a lot of fun to watch. And we'll be glad that there's an. That this was the first game and not the last game.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes, first one and it's over. And then you move on to the rest of the schedule. The next game, the late game, which I'm not going to be able to watch because it's too late, is Washington at Detroit? Washington is probably the surprise of the entire league. They were 4 and 13 last year. They added new pieces in management, new pieces on the field. They are 13 and 5. Their quarterback is from Mars. He's so good. He's from Mars. He is that good. Great stage presence. Jaden Daniels is. Joe Burrow is Cam Newton, is Lamar Jackson the rare Heisman Trophy winner who walks in with confidence, ability and stage presence and is a factor immediately. He's a factor immediately. Washington is getting nine and a half. Detroit is banged up, but Detroit at home is real good and Detroit has a real good offense. And now I think they got both running backs back in this one. Nine and a half is a lot of points. I covered Washington against Detroit in a playoff game at one point and Washington won that playoff game. It's A long time ago. It's the bandwagon year. Nine and a half is a lot. It's a lot.

[Tim Calishaw]

I think it's way too many points. You know, the Commanders feel like. I feel like they're last year's Lions.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay.

[Tim Calishaw]

You're like, hey, this team's got something here. They're coming. They're probably a year away. They're probably not going to do, you know. And yet they came so close, right?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes.

[Tim Calishaw]

They almost got there with the Niners. They almost did this. Quinn coaches very similarly to Campbell. Right. It's a culture atmosphere. He goes for it on fourth down. They're not, you know, even if they're down two scores, you know, they're going to keep trying to play. I, you know, they'll backdoor cover this if they have to, but I think this is one of these three point games. And the Lions just figure out how to win it because they're just. They're ready to win this year, right? They just feel like they're ready to win. And the Commanders feel like you're coming, but not this year.

[Tony Kornheiser]

The turnaround with Washington is really something. And by the way, if you are thinking long term, people say bandwagon. Bandwagon. The Bandwagon team lost two games by a total of four. Teams lost five games. Let's. Let's not go nuts. But Washington did get help by Minnesota losing. That took a team with 14 wins off the board. That is. That helps. And they went out to the LA Rams. The LA Rams are at Philadelphia. The Rams are getting six. The Chargers. And I'm going to say something now, and I'm probably out of my depth. I assume that the fires in Los Angeles affect teams from Los Angeles in a greater way than they affect teams from the rest of the country. Even if you have empathy for what is going on, the Chargers put up no game at all. None against Houston. On the road. The Rams. And they're on the road because it's Arizona. The Rams may have. Especially the way they talked after the game with Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford. The Rams may have understood their small role in. In this much larger picture and may have drawn purpose from it because the Rams played really well. Now it's a week down the road. Now they're at Philadelphia. A really good team. They get six. The Rams, you know, they can score on anybody, Chuck, you know that. But they can also. They can also be a bad team. We've seen them be a bad team. Will you take the six or take.

[Tim Calishaw]

Philly and you got the cold weather. Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh yeah. Very cold Sunday.

[Tim Calishaw]

You know, I'll make a confession. I, I as a gambler, faded both LA teams.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay.

[Tim Calishaw]

For the reason you stated. Like I flipped. I, you know, I flipped and bet on Houston simply because I thought you're just especially leaving the situation. You know, you talked about during the snowstorm how you have this instinct that you couldn't sleep, you had to watch.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Protective instinct. Yeah.

[Tim Calishaw]

Okay. I, you know, I've gone through hurricanes. You feel that. I know exactly the feeling you have. And this, the thing you don't want to do is leave your property.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Tim Calishaw]

And you want to sort of keep track of it. Especially if you're like, is something coming or not? What do I got to know? And so my, in my head I'm thinking, boy, if I'm not there, all I'm thinking about is what the hell's going on there. I'm probably not thinking about my game plan. Right. I'm not thinking about my assignments on the field, so. But you're right. I feel like that 48 hours between the Chargers playing on Saturday and sort of, there was a difference in sort of community. I don't know how to put it. You're absolutely right. And, and after the, after that national anthem, it was not before the game even I thought, oh, I should have bet on the Rams here. You just sort of felt it. Right. You did feel it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

They had the pre game ceremony with Andrew Whitworth and, and it was moving. It was.

[Tim Calishaw]

And I didn't expect that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No.

[Tim Calishaw]

I don't know about you. I mean, no offense to Andrew.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I, you know, nor did I, nor did.

[Tim Calishaw]

I didn't expect it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes. Moving. Yes.

[Tim Calishaw]

So by the way, Jaden Daniels, best quarterback left in the nfc.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Hertz is a, you know, we don't know her status. No. I think that Goff has had a great year. Think.

[Tim Calishaw]

Who would you take though? You were starting a franchise?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh, of course I'd take Jaden Daniels. Oh, sure. I mean golf's been in this thing for five, six, seven years. Yeah.

[Tim Calishaw]

That was a. That Eagles, packers game. Set foot football back 50 years.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. One a good game.

[Tim Calishaw]

But Philly does this. They make teams look ugly. Right. They're just, they're more physical and all of those things. And there's also. You can't. I. I don't know. I agree. I think traveling again, the anxiety again of leaving your hometown after what's going on in la. I'm sure you've got some friends and folks that are displaced and you're just going through and that's all they're thinking about. And throwing the cold weather Stafford outdoors. You got to take the Eagles.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. I tend to agree with that. I do. And here's the best game saved it for last. Baltimore is a road favorite in Buffalo. Baltimore beat Buffalo earlier this year. I believe they are a road favorite by one. This is a 630 game. Everybody in the world can watch it. And by everybody, I mean me. I want to watch it. Baltimore has looked great. Lamar Jackson is great. Lamar Jackson when he decides at the line of scrimmage. I think I'll run a little bit right here. He always gains yards. He doesn't gain 40 yards. He always gains yards. He is impossible to defend. If Derrick Henry is running well as well. I don't know the status of the wide receiver flowers. I don't know that. But Baltimore is awesome on offense. Buffalo's a really good team. This is in Buffalo. They're a really good team. Josh Allen is great. These two guys are great to watch. They are. I wouldn't know where to go. One point wouldn't matter to me. So who do you like?

[Tim Calishaw]

I like Derek Henry. That's what I like here. And if you look at these two teams and what's the difference between the Ravens last year and the Ravens this year? Derek Henry.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Sure, Derek Henry. And their defense has gotten better. It was terrible for the first five or six games. Better.

[Tim Calishaw]

Now they either finally get over the hump now or they're never getting over the hump.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Agreed.

[Tim Calishaw]

I mean this is. I don't know. You know, we keep wondering how many more years is Derek Henry have, right? It is. It's. You know, you can't assume that no matter how indestructible he seems that a 30 plus year old running back is going to. Is going to be there next year as effective as he was this year. So I'm on the. I like the Ravens because of Henry. I mean when you can do this. I mean remember he did this with Tennessee once with Ryan Tannehill as quarterback.

[Tony Kornheiser]

They went to the AFC finals basically on Henry. Yeah, right.

[Tim Calishaw]

He just everybody and he can shorten the game and, and that's what his beauty is. So I'm, I'm on the Ravenshield. You know this line went back and forth. It opened Bill's favorite.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I didn't know that.

[Tim Calishaw]

And on Sunday night and it's been bet to the Ravens being favored. So it's interesting that all the money basically since the Bills opened up as A favorite came in on the, on Baltimore.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Came in on Baltimore. I will give you the college game. It started at nine and a half. Ohio State minus nine. It's eight.

[Tim Calishaw]

Future coach of the Bears. Let's Wilbon think of Freeman as the Bears coach.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He hasn't said anything. He wants Ben Johnson. He hates Notre Dame. You have to understand that.

[Tim Calishaw]

I hear you. I hate Notre Dame and I like Marcus Freeman.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Tim Calishaw]

Somebody. This is really bothering me. I hate, I've been raised to hate Notre Dame my whole life.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Catholics versus convicts. Yeah. No.

[Tim Calishaw]

What they did to the University of Miami, unforgivable for me. And yet, you know, sort of like, I like these guys.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's down to eight. It's down to eight. It'S dropping. So people are betting on Notre Dame. Who you got? We give eight.

[Tim Calishaw]

Yeah, I'm, I'm, I was hoping you would give me that nine and a half. And I take Notre Dame. If I can pick my Carvel line there. I, I, I, I assume you know the favorite par, Moneyline parlay bet this weekend is basic Kansas City, Detroit, Ohio State. That you're just betting on all three?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Calishaw]

You get some plus money. So it's a very popular parlay. I think Ohio State wins and I think it's a, I think it's a closer, in the immortal words of Mr. Corso, closer than the experts thing.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So you'll take Notre Dame?

[Tim Calishaw]

I'm taking Notre Dame. I think they're not as good, but they do seem to be. I go back to that little fourth and one punt trick they pulled off.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Tim Calishaw]

When they went. I mean, this is a really smart coaching staff. And I don't buy watching Ryan Day get out coached by pretty much anybody who coaches Michigan. There's a part of me that wonders, boy, in a big game, is he gonna, is he gonna, you know, do something stupid here? I just sort of like Notre Dame's ability to stay in this game. Keep the game, slow it down, run it a lot. With Riley Leonard, Ohio State's talent will probably win out at the end. This is, you tell me that it's a, you know, seven or less. That's, well, that's what I bet on.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Tim Calishaw]

So there you go.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Monday. It's Monday night. The game is Monday night. It's probably going to start at 11 at night or something.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

I think midnight.

[Tim Calishaw]

You know, the College Football Playoff folks, they've got to figure out how to schedule all this stuff.

[Tony Kornheiser]

They don't know what they're doing.

[Tim Calishaw]

They're up against the Inauguration.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Tim Calishaw]

All right. And yes, Inauguration night. But that's. That's kind of an awkward timing on that. Although Martin Luther King Monday isn't a bad. Isn't a bad since it is a federal holiday. Then they did those Thursday Friday games that while I was happy to have Thursday football, it looked like the ratings weren't that good. They really need to work better with the NFL and figure out how to.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You do not spit in the NFL's eye and go right up against them. You don't do it. It's just insane. You don't do it.

[Tim Calishaw]

No, you don't. I can't wait till baseball. Until football somehow moves. It's the NFL draft to opening day of baseball and says, what are you going to do about it?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Thank you, Chuck. Good luck on this. Chuck Todd. Boys and girls. If we just gave you Chuck Todd, that would be more than enough. But we give you more. We give you a monkey. Nigel to the zoo.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Oh, they're going to hate me now.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Reggie swaying from the bar. We give you a monkey. Let me see who Reggie likes after Chuck Todma and the Car and a Half. Thank you. In other words, throw your poo. The Vikes fight, too. Yeah, he's throwing a quadruple TK salute. Oh, who taught him that? Johnny Walker Blue. Love this. I love that. I know everybody's going to be angry.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Kyle Kettleson. Thank you.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Just love that.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Reginald, last week, two and one. He is above 500. He is 27, 26 and one at the moment, three. And they're not all people. One monkey and two people are above 500. Carville is at 58 and 53. Carville is horrid. Crushing it. You know, reginald 27, 26. Chuck 66, 55. Jeff ma not. He's got a sweep. Jeff Ma's gonna have to basically sweep to get to 500. We'll talk to him on Friday. What does Nigel like? What does Reginald like?

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Nigel likes going down to the zoo to see Reginald. Reginald was a chaotic atmosphere there, having his final dress rehearsal and run through for the much anticipated production of youf Can't Take it with youh. Oh, Ye Cavalcade of Stars is gonna be in this, as you would expect.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Very funny. Very funny play. Yes.

[Chuck Todd]

Very funny.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I was in it when I was in high school.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

I think Jimmy Stewart was in the movie. Yeah. Bernadette Peters will be a part of this production. David Hasselhoff and Daniel Day Lewis. Yeah. So that's a good. A good group. Of course, all the proceeds will go towards Reginald's charity Monkeys for Monaco, which helps repatriate monkeys to the preferred home in Monaco. So the first match we gave him was Houston getting eight at Kansas City. Reginald showed me a picture of him at a hot dog eating contest along with Earl Campbell, Joe Sambido and Clyde Drexler.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So he's going Houston.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

He's going to go with Houston. Okay, take the eight. The next one we gave him was Washington football getting nine and a half at the Lions. And this was just a lovely photo of Reginald riding jet skis with Otis Wansley, Arthur Monk and Clint.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Did he take Washington?

[Reginald Lamonkey]

He got burned by it last week, so he's going back to him. And the final game was the Ravens giving one at the Bills. And this was something I never expected to see in a photograph of him. This was. He showed me a picture of him practicing synchronized swimming routines along with Marv Levy, Luke Russet and Scott Norwood. So tells me he's got ties to the Buffalo area.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Not Jessica Pegula, though.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

No, not Jessica.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He's just getting ready to go out in the semis at some point, which is what happens all the time. All right. All right. This week's picks with Chuck Todd and Reginald and the monkey have been brought to you by FanDuel Sportsbook. Make every moment more. We're going to talk to Tim Calishaw. When we come back, we're going to talk about Jerry Jones and Deion Sanders. I'm Tony Kornheiser.

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[Tony Kornheiser]

Once again. This is Regan or Regan Stewart. I'm gonna say it's Regan. I think it was Reagan. It'd be R E A R E G A N. This is Dandelions. This woman's great. Yeah. I mean she's great. And she sent us her songs. Yeah. We are so happy to play them. Michael. If people with original music like Regan Stewart want to send in their songs and get them played on the show, how do they do it?

[Chuck Todd]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

You know, there's the main street in Nashville is like 100 bars and people just sing all the time. Yeah.

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No, it's really wonderful.

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[Tony Kornheiser]

She plays it in. Tim Callishaw of the Dallas Morning News. We're going to talk about Jerry Jones and Deion Sanders because I want to talk to someone who knows this. But I have a few questions first. I'm sure you get this all the time. How does it feel to be the last sportswriter in America? That's good.

[G]

You know, nobody's ever asked me that. That's a good question. But I do increasingly feel that way as younger people either retire or venture off into other things.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's remarkable. Somebody wrote a story a couple of years ago saying that Wilbon and I killed sports writing because we left. But I mean identify still. We. We always have identified as sports writers. But I do look around and I there aren't. It doesn't seem to be like it was when we were younger. And you wanted to be a sports writer because you define the sports in your city. It doesn't seem to be that. You notice that, right? It doesn't seem to be that way.

[G]

No, it's. It's not that way at all. And I've told you this before, but you won't remember it because you're old like me. I was a sophomore junior at the University of Texas, and I was a radio, tv, film major, and I read a Street and Smith basketball yearbook. There was a guy named Tony Kornheiser who had done a story on Jim Valvano. And it started out V was deep into his rap. And actually a lot of it, when I think of it, was a lot of Jim Valvano quotes. But I thought it was so great. I thought, I want to beat Kurdheis. I want to be a sports writer. And I changed my major to journalism and started writing for the Daily Text.

[Tony Kornheiser]

The two funniest stand around people I have ever met. Not comedians. Now, I have to preface that. The two funniest stand around people I have ever met are Dave Barry and Jim Valvano. You could stand there with Jim Valvano. We had a lot in common. We both grew up on Long Island. You know, we knew each other and all of that. But you could stand around with Valvano for 20 minutes and you would never have to talk. He would just pull things out of thin air. And he was hysterically funny. And they're not making him like Jim Valvano anymore. I understand that everybody responds to the V Foundation and the terrible tragedy that took him in his 40s, or maybe early 50s at the latest. But Jim Valvano, as a head coach would go to a bar and just start dancing and singing and lead people in a conga line around the block. He would do that. I mean, he was tremendous. On the topic of sports writing, I say this all the time. My son is here and knows I say this. My grandchildren will never understand what I did.

[G]

That's probably true.

[Tony Kornheiser]

They're not going to have a frame of reference as to what. What he did. What did he do? All right, let's go to. Let's go to the fascinating Jerry Jones. Why did he move away from Mike McCarthy in your opinion? I mean, he teased that he held McCarthy out on a string. Why did he do that?

[G]

Because that's what he does. He wants to do everything he does differently. He's not going to. When he got rid of Jason Garrett, he did it during a wild card game. That first weekend, and he was interviewing people while Garrett was still in his office. So that was a little worse. But this was just, you know, telling the Bears they can't talk to McCarthy.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[G]

And that obviously gave the impression, okay, these guys are just hammering out the details on a new deal. And I wasn't so sure, but I was starting to lose some faith that I was. I thought he'd get rid of McCarthy, but I was certainly losing faith in that. And then, of course, he comes up Monday. Yeah, they're gone. He's gone. They never really even. Barely even talk contract. And so I don't think. I don't think he ever intended to keep him. I think he was trying to see if he could be talked into McCarthy staying on a one year deal at a low. Same low rate. Relatively low. And once McCarthy wouldn't do that, that was. That was the end of it for Jerry. But it is silly. There's a lot of. There's a tremendous amount of silliness that goes on with the Cowboys. And that's why Troy Aikman said this is not necessarily a coveted dub. And you think about that, and that's incredible for a Cowboys hall of Fame quarterback, the last great, certainly last super bowl quarterback they had. And to say that this is not a coveted job. I think he's right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I saw him say that. I like Troy Aikman a lot. I saw him say that. And he couched it in the most diplomatic way possible. He said, I played there, I loved it there and all of that. But he said this job isn't what people are saying this job is. And Jerry, you used the word silly from a distance. I would use the word mean. I mean, he strung this guy. Okay, the guy, maybe you don't want the guy. It's okay. But there was a mean quality to the way Jerry did that. I had never, and I have never thought of him as mean. And I did in this case. Am I wrong? Am I overstating?

[G]

I think it looks that way. I don't know how. If Mike McCarthy would have taken it that way. Maybe he did. Although he's still got an opportunity to interview with Chicago. It's more, you know, the Cowboys had the highest number of assistant coaches, whatever it was, 28, 32. Something absurd. Every team, at least 25 assistants. Those guys, the lower end guys, not the coordinators, they're the ones hanging on, you know, that need to be out looking for jobs.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[G]

Because the entire staff.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[G]

Was on a one year, was on a last year deal. So those guys, he was mean. His demeanor was mean to them.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Maybe I'll just. I'll say Tim. I'll say petty instead of mean. I got a pet.

[G]

Yes. Jerry can't be that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[G]

And just think about the fact that at home games, when Jerry talks after basically every home game and he talks at the same time the head coach does. So it's like me and David Moore and four other guys in Mike McCarthy's spacious room that we could do in a closet. And Jerry's out in a hall with 30 people huddled around him, 30 cameras. And it's just petty comes up a lot here.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Dion. And I. Say that again. Dion. Are we supposed to take this seriously?

[G]

I don't think so.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay.

[G]

I think. I think it's more than just a Rooney rule conversation, but I think. I don't think Jerry will go that way. Now, I would never rule anything out with Jerry, but honestly, I think Deion's strengths are, you know, as a motivator and as a guy who just promotes the hell out of mostly himself. But his team, Colorado, is now a team. I went there my freshman year. It was not a team. It's never been a football team. Now it is. But the Cowboys don't need that. Their brand is already too big. Their brand is already overwhelming. They can't get out of the news. He needs to coach the Jacksonville Jaguars if he wants to coach the NFL and put a team on the map. I just don't think. I don't see that happening. Plus, Deion has seemed very honest when he said, I'm not going to. He's always said he doesn't want to coach the NFL. He thinks he couldn't get to the players, and now he says he wouldn't do it without his son. And I don't think you can get his son with the 12th pick. Never mind the fact that Dak Prescott's a $231 million guaranteed quarterback. So, you know, I just don't think it works here.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So we talked about it. Mike and I talked about this on the air yesterday. And I said, it's a pipe dream. It's not going to happen. Jerry's not going to hire somebody who's more famous than he is. Deion is an incredible self promoter and will use every opportunity to. And I pointed out, I said, look, here's Deion Sanders. He literally on the sideline coaching a game, is wearing a sweatshirt with his name on it. Not Colorado, his name, Coach Prime. And then I went the other way, and I said, but you know what? Jerry's 82 and you know he wants to win again. And in terms of spotlight, he can share the spotlight because the spotlight's going to be. This is impossible for me to believe. It's going to be bigger with Deon and Jerry than it's ever been before. And the Cowboys, who are the most famous team in sports in the United States of America, maybe in the world, for all I know, they're going to be even bigger. Does that have an appeal to Jerry?

[G]

Heaven forbid the Cowboys are bigger than they are as they continue to not win playoff games. Anything like that does have an appeal. Anything. And it's not simply making more money. It's anything that makes the Cowboys bigger. Jerry is extremely conscious of how much the Cowboys are in the news, and I'd love to say making headlines, but I don't know if it's newspaper news that he's really, really worried about. But. So that's why I don't rule it out. Your point is valid in his case, you know, it doesn't matter that he's been in Colorado two years. Basically a.500 coach in Colorado.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Proved nothing there. He's proved nothing. Yeah, but he's Deion Sanders. He played there. And if you look at the last three, once Parcells left, then you have Wade Phillips, Jason Garrett and Mike McCarthy. And there's no song and dance man in that. I mean, you know, they're not being on Dancing with the Stars and Dion is a star, right?

[G]

Yeah. And they've gone. Like you said, it's almost 20 years, 2006 since parcels left. So it's just been guys. It's just been. Yeah, Mike McCarthy had a super bowl ring, but he's not a dynamic personality by any means. And even more true, Wade. So, yeah, it could circle back around to that. It's parcels turn. How do I do parcels? Do I do it with Pete Carroll, who's 12 years older than Mike McCarthy, or do I do it with Deion? Or do I try to get Lane Kiffin, somebody who has some sort of star quality beyond being a head coach?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Who do you think are the reasonable candidates out there? If someone comes to you and say, give me three guys who you think would work? Knowing Jerry and knowing that this team, the team's got a lot of big name guys, and McCarthy won 12 games for three years in a row, but he won one playoff game. They're not. They got bounced so badly last year. What an embarrassment that was. So who would you. Who you put out there?

[G]

Okay. I'm going to continue to put out Cliff Kingsbury and draw chuckles. Okay with that?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, no, we saw him in Washington. Look, Jaden Daniels. Jaden Daniels is proof that Cliff Kingsbury knows what he's doing. He may not have known in Arizona.

[G]

He knows what he's doing with quarterbacks.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes.

[G]

He had Patrick Mahomes in college. He had Johnny Manziel. He had Case Keenum at different spots. He had Kyler Murray as rookie of the year and two Pro Bowls. Yeah, that's obviously the most you can get out of Jayn Daniels. They need somebody. They got about three years left with Dak. Dak's 32 next year and it may not happen for Dak. The odds are probably against him now. He's going to his 10th year and he's never been to an NFC championship game. But if somebody can maximize this offense, I think a guy like Cliff can do it. You can get whoever to be the defensive guy. You know the other names people want to throw around. Steve Sarkeesian. Why would he leave a 9 or 10 million dollar job at the University of Texas that he has going strong for the Cowboys? I don't know, but some people think the allure of the NFL and the Cowboys might be strong for him.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I think he hurt himself on that last series in the last series in the bowl game. I mean, come on.

[G]

Second and one.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What are you doing?

[G]

Let's, let's toss it to this running back at the eight yard line having get sworn. Yeah, yeah. That didn't help him. And I mean I mentioned Lane Kiffin. Mississippi spent apparently as much money as Ohio State or anybody this year and they got to the tax slayer Gator Bowl. Maybe he sees the writing on the wall and wants to try the NFL again. The only thing Al Davis hated Lane Kiffin and Jerry was very close to Al, so God knows how that would play in his mind.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He is not a shrinking violet, Lane Kiffin. He is not. No.

[G]

That's what I'm thinking. If you're trying to go for the personalities, those are the guys.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Well, we'll see what happens. I appreciate you coming on with this because I, I just think you, you know, we're looking at it from 30,000ft and you got boots on the ground there. Thank you, Tim. Thank you.

[G]

All right, thanks, Tony.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Tim Calashaw. Boys and girls. We will come back with email and jingle. I am Tony Kornheiser.

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[Reginald Lamonkey]

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[Regan Stewart]

Yeah, it's a mailbag.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

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[Regan Stewart]

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[Tony Kornheiser]

Thank you, Sean.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Love that.

[Chuck Todd]

Sean's gonna fix the Internet yesterday.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Yeah, he could have. Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You wanna do the Bethesda bagel ad for us?

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Yes. Before I get to that, I got a text from Reginald. He would like the Buckeyes as well.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He's got em.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

He's gonna take the Buckeyes. Who probably also like some Bethesda bagels. We love Bethesda bagels. You will as well. Just go to bethesdabeagels.com forward a location in the DC area nearest you, then pop on in and you will be thrilled.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Before we get to the mailbag, Let me just say There'll be no strings to bind your hands not if my love can bind your heart there's no need to take a stand for it was I who chose to start I see no need to take me home I'm old enough to face the dawn Just call me angel in the morning, angel Just touch my cheek before you leave me, baby Just call me angel in the morning, angel Then slowly turn away from me that is originally Merrily Rush and the Turnabouts.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Angel in the Morning. I think it's a great song. It was then covered by Juice Newton.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

That's right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Which is okay, but not as good.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Merrily Rush in the Turnabouts.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I think that's a great.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Turnabouts is also a great backing band name.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Thanks to our guests today, Chuck Todd, Tim Cowlishaw and Reginald. Thanks as well to today's sponsors. Remember, you can listen to us on Apple podcasts, Spotify and Odyssey. Get showed through Apple. Please leave us a review. We have this lovely letter from Eric De Vrent, who's the owner operator of a Chick Fil A at Westchester Commons in Midlothian, Virginia, which is near Richmond, Virginia.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And he wants to tell his good pal Matt Bachnight to eat it. And in terms of eating it, the spicy chicken sandwich. Yeah, he does. Sure. He gets a box of that.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He sent us the ability to get free sandwiches and drinks at Chick Fil? A.

[Chuck Todd]

Do you remember about 20 years ago you got sent like a manager's tie from Chick Fil? A that I used to wear?

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, I don't remember.

[Chuck Todd]

Yeah, I still have it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Wow. He says, I hope you, Carol, Michael, Bootsy, the hammer, the captain, Liz and Nigel enjoy this missive in the box of that courtesy of my team and I at the official quick service restaurant, the Tony Kornheiser show. Upon hearing of the packaging inconsistencies of your local bagel establishment, I immediately thought of our signature foil sandwich bags and foil breakfast wraps as foolproof solution to ease Nigel's struggles in the food delivery department. Further, the coupons can be used at any of our 3,100 plus locations nationwide. But any littles can be assured of receiving a hearty lacheserie at my restaurant should they find themselves in the metro Richmond area. And he wanted to know, when did I meet and befriend James Carville? And it's just a long time ago. It was through Mary.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Okay.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I mean, Mary was doing the show.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Because she got you.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Mary was doing equal time and reached out to me to do equal time. And that's how I met James and Mary. And you know, I mean I had worship James. I mean James is not afraid. He's just not afraid. No, he'll say it in the street and scare the horses. Brilliant.

[Chuck Todd]

What are your chick fil A sauces?

[Tony Kornheiser]

I don't use sauces.

[Chuck Todd]

No sauce?

[Tony Kornheiser]

No.

[Chuck Todd]

Chick fil a sauce?

[Tony Kornheiser]

No.

[Chuck Todd]

Barbecue sauce? Polynesian?

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, I just use the. The sandwich.

[Chuck Todd]

Avocado ranch.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I don't like avocados. No. I don't like pumpkins. I don't like avocados. Steve Ginger from. From Jerry Black. Oh. So the new game is professional athletes with short names. We could go with Ed Ott, but his full name was Edward Nathan Ott. But let's go with Ed. The real winner is some guy named Ed Hug, but he played in 1903 for the then Brooklyn super boss.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Super boss?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, super boss. Before becoming the Dodgers, Ed hug only played one game, had only one MLB at bat and walked. So his on base percentage is 1000. That's pretty good. So like movie like Graham includes Ron say Melot, Ty Cobb, Lee May Bo Nix may be the winner. If I was a Washington football fan, RG3, I'm sure Wilbon would go with MJ and CP3 with honorific titles. Dr. J and Coach K are the winners. That's it.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

I believe Dan Byrne emailed us with his thought. Lee Na, who was a female tennis player.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes. Yes. That's four letters.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Yeah, Four letters. Nothing might have won.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Chinese tennis player.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Yeah, it was really good. Really good.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Eric Fulton in Rockville, Maryland. Monday's email was correct. Ed Odd is the shortest full name in Major League Baseball history, though a special honorable mention to Ed Hug. Also five letters. Played one. How do they know this? They both know this. Played one game for the Brooklyn Dodgers. They weren't the Dodgers in 1903. In the NFL, Bo Nix and Ty Law each have five letters in their name. Ty Lue has five. Oh, yeah, but Ty's given name is Tawan, while Bo's given name is just Bo. His middle name, by the way, is Champion. The shortest name in the NBA, of course, is Muggsy Bogues. That's funny. And the shortest name in NHL history is former Penguin Whaler and Calgary Flames legend Zarlie Zalapsky. Please do not fact check this. It's hockey. Who knows? Who cares? PS Team Summer Wonder Woman. Case closed. This is from Gary Van Ziegen. Van Geesen. Rather good news for Yankee fans. The Juan Soto replacement is complete. Dom Smith just signed a minor league deal. I got this in the mail from the other day. Adam Mandel. Opposing pitchers will now be faced with the prospect of facing either Judge or Smith in the heart of the Yankee order. You won't see that kind of protection on any other major league club. World Series, here we come. Mark Turner, Granger, Indiana Tony, tell Chuck Freebe thanks for letting us know about the coupon at Martin's Supermarket for the Progresso soup. I love New England clam chowder, and I contend that if you must eat it out of a can, the Progresso rich and hearty style is the best you can buy. Way better than that weak stuff from Campbell's. Getting four for $4 was an unbelievable deal. I'm sure Freebie buys his soap at the Proletariat Martin's on the south side of town. Whereas I exclusively buy my soup. Rather not soap. Whereas I exclusively buy my soup up here at the Gucci Martins in Granger. Brian Polian knows what I'm talking about. Jeff Barger, Hillsborough, North Carolina. I have a $75 coupon for Progresso soup on the food lion coupon. It mentions soup season. What exactly is soup season? Does everything have a season now? I should have listened to the birds.

[Chuck Todd]

Yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Turn, turn, turn. For everything there is a season and a time long. Okay, JP Hassman. John Hasman attached. For the viewers and News Channel 8 is an advertisement for a concert here in St. Louis, home to Mr. Tony's beloved Arch this May. To my great delight, the TK Show's own post sex nachos are listed on the bill. I said to no one in particular. I know that band. My very own David Aldrich moment. Hopefully this email can be read in advance of the May concert date so loyal Littles can gather in the St. Louis metro area to make plans to attend. Maybe we can even get the brilliant Dan Byrne to plan a gig in town around the same time and make it a little festive. Possible. I'd love to be considered the official St. Louis University Billiken Basketball Superfan TK Show. Yeah, sure. Yeah. It's the Urge the Toadies Finger 11 Ludo Sick Puppies Alien Ant Farm Alien Ant Farm Alien Ant Farm Post Sex Nachos and Oxymorons Oxymorons. That's pretty good. Steve the Sycophant A slightly belated farewell shout out to Mr. Sam Morris died last weekend as Half a Sam and Dave with the late David Prater. He provided such classics as Soul man and Hold On, I'm Coming. I got to see Sam and Dave in D.C. in 1969. They gave the second greatest live show I've ever seen, only slightly exceeded by the immortal James Brown. I later found out Sam and Dave's offstage relationship was so bad they wouldn't even talk to each other. If they weren't the greatest singing duo of all time, they're right up there with anybody else. Farewell, Mr. Moore. Yeah, Bob Lane in Midland, Michigan. As you have noted many, many, many times, you know how to write. And you know funny words matter. And the order of words matters as well. For example, one of your all time band names Post Sex Nachos is funny. Post Nacho Sex, not so much. Yeah, and again, they're playing in St. Louis. Brett Hobbs, Linton, Indiana. You always like to hear about actual experiences with items you mention on your podcast. Because of my age and limited bending ability, I decided to purchase a pair of Skechers slip on shoes. They're easy to get on and off and they're fairly comfortable. The only drawback I have found is their lack of durability. I've had them less than a year and the tread is pretty much gone. I walk for exercise both by myself and with my dog, so the shoes have been well tested. In my opinion, they're not holding up as well as my previous New Balance shoes. Just my opinion. I'd like to hear about your experience when you receive your free pair. If I do, Helen says replace every like six months. Three months.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Three months.

[Chuck Todd]

Depends on the mileage.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, it's like there's a certain amount of miles that the tread has and then you replace them. You know that's what you're supposed to do. A year seems like a lot if you're walking every day.

[Chuck Todd]

I'm surprised they don't have holes after a year.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah Luke in Chicago, formerly of Cincinnati when you and Wilbon went over the Eagles tight end stiff arming a Packers cornerback into the dirt, I thought, hey, I know that cornerback. He was in my high school class of 2020. Have I ever spoken a word to him? No. Maybe this is the time to reach out. It's not certain how hard he's taking becoming the worst kind of highlight reel, but surely he'd want to know of his new TK fame, no? I'll let you know if he catches my flush. The mouse reference Luke in Chicago that.

[Reginald Lamonkey]

Was brutal because it was one stiff.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Arm and then another one from our friend Wyn Mossman in Moscow, Idaho Wilbon's comments on the Monday Monday podcast that he grew up next door to Detroit provides yet another data point for those trying to calculate the wsi. The Wilbond Speed Index for the uninitiated, next door is apparently a destination which is about four and a quarter hours away, or the approximate driving distance from Chicago to Detroit using the WSI. Washington, D.C. is just three doors down via the blink of an eye. Chicago to Detroit, Detroit to Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh to D.C. route. There's a certain homey comfort to the WSI because by that math we are all pretty much living on the same street. Also, does it defeat the purpose if I tell those sweater munching moths to eat it? Yes, it defeats the purpose. And Jim Van Wassenhoven in Green Bay, Wisconsin I am currently in the UK United Kingdom for work and I'm on the train from Manchester to London. Imagine my surprise when I heard the next stop would be Milton Keynes Central. When we arrived at the stop, I leaned out the door of the train and yelled Lecheserie. As though I was a train conductor yelling all aboard. I received a startled and or confused look from every One of the 10 or so people on the platform, but not a single Lecheserie in response. Sad. Does this make me the official pretend train conductor of this stupid show? Indeed. And if you're out on your bike tonight, everyone as always, do wear white. Expired. Expired. Expired. Thanks Aunt Bonnie.

[Regan Stewart]

Right out of that neon blue your boots came walking in through that door One round turned in two you spinning me round that sawdust floor. This ain't your first rodeo, you're so cowboy cool Come on and there'll be another sunrise you might bright off into but if tonight song it be a fast one I turn up the last one make a jukebox want to play if this puzzle is the best I've ever had one I put it on your tap one I got to give it to you straight if there's dragon I'm far it's just too shiny in the dark if this first kiss is a baby make it last one don't let it be the last one if it's just a Friday night ain't never been one like this if it just means goodbye this is good as a good bag it it's an athletic song it'd be a fast one A turn up the blast one the jukebox wanna play if this buzz was the best I've ever had one I put it on your tab one then I gotta give it to you straight if there's drink in a bar and just a shiny in the dark if there's first kiss isn't gonna make and don't let it be the last one don't let it be the last one this ain't your first rodeo you're so cowboy cool Come morning there'll be another sunrise you might ride out into but it's another song it be a fast one turn up the last one make a two black one Then I got to get to you straight if this drink in a bar you just a shout in the dark if this first kiss is going to make it last one don't let it be the last one don't let it be the last one each one better than the last one don't let it be the last one I've been looking at the glass half empty Wondering why I don't see it half full on my for when I've got plenty like might is trying to turn everything to gold Hate when I go green with envy Looking around asking why not me? Tired of carrying a heart so heavy when I've got all I need need to take a step back take in the view get back to the bright as a girl I my new the choice is mine to choose the longer I'm living the more I'm finding Life's like a field of dandy lines either sing wishes or weeds Wishes or weeds I want to see a long road winding Think of everything that's up ahead make peace with mistakes and timing and just take another step I want to look a better riot not just see a sky full of black Taking the beauty of the stars all shining dream every dream that I have that need to take a step back? Taking the view? Get back to the bright eyed girl I knew? Oh? The choice is mine to choose? The longer I'm living, the more I'm finding? Life's like a field of dandelions? Either see wishes and wa? You can pull them up into the breeze? Wishes and ways? Yeah? Wishes and ways? You better need to take a step back? Taking the view? Get back to the bright eyed girl I knew? The choice is mine to choose? The longer I'm living, the more I'm finding? Life's like a field of dandelions? Either sing wishes, wishes.