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Hey there, and welcome to the only room more tense than the breakfast table and more chaotic than a mission meltdown. It's the traitor's official podcast.
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Yes, honey, the number one podcast in the world. Move over, Joe Rogan. Watch out, Amy Poehler. We're coming for you. And we've got Daggers. We are your official headquarters for every banishment, betrayal, and backstab. I'm Bob the Drag Queen, and I'm boss.
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And we're not ready to leave the castle, so we're keeping the spirit of the game alive right here.
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And if you're just joining our conspiracy for the first time, welcome aboard. A little late to the feast. Yes, you are. But we're glad you're here. This is where we break down every lie, every alliance, and every iconic exit from the most devious show on television.
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And let's be clear. We don't leave anything on the table that means full spoilers are ahead. So if you're not caught up, this is your final warning. Turn back now.
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We're gonna talk through episode nine, beat by Beat, and then we're gonna be joined by the queen of the castle. Whether it's Alan's or Bluestone Manor, Dorinda Medley. We're gonna discuss her time in the castle and her murder. So go ahead and get excited for that.
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Next, I'll give my expert insights into the fashion from the episode. You like how I am now the expert on the fashion mob. And then we'll give our final thoughts and predictions. But for now, let's get into tonight's episode.
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When Rob reveals his face, Eric is floored, which tells me that obviously, Rob is doing it as best as anyone's done.
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He's doing a great job as a traitor to keep his, you know, his. His role low key. But what do you think about him choosing Eric as the person to join him in the turret?
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Well, I'm scared for Eric, to be honest, because Rob does not have a good track record with traders. Let's just start with that. And I mean, so if I were Eric, I would. I would accept it, obviously, because I want. I don't want to leave the game. But I just watched what you did to two other traders, so I would be having an eye out for Rob the whole time. But Eric just doesn't sound like a type. He's too sweet, and he's too. I don't know.
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See, I think from Rob's point of view, what he's thinking here is he thinks Eric's very cerebral. He thinks about the game. Correctly, he understands the move. He's calculated. But I don't know if that's gonna translate into Eric being a good trader.
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Listen, in case you missed it, let's take a look at it right now.
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Well, listen, man, I have an ultimatum for you. You can either join me, become a traitor, or I'm gonna kill you right now.
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This is a sick and twisted game.
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You're a smart guy. If you choose to join arms with me, I'm fully confident we're gonna win this game. All right, I'm in. God, what am I doing?
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I need a helmet and an adult diaper because I am about to shit my pants and my head's about to explode. This is so stressful.
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Love him or hate him, Rob Rousch is. He's actually much more camp than I realize. Like, he has some really good one liners. He's leaning into it. I mean, at some point, this has to catch up with you mentally watching people just struggle so hard and just dominating everyone. But so far, he's just doing a great job.
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I agree. I think Rob, like, was born to play this role.
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And then Rob turns around and tells Eric, yeah, I know you're stressed, baby. We got a murder tonight. And they get back up to the turret and they discuss who they're going to murder. And they deliberate and they deliberate and they deliberate and they choose Dorinda Medley.
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I do think getting rid of Natalie would also have been a viable option.
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Well, Natalie has a little bit of heat on her, so you always want to keep someone around with a little bit of heat because they could get banished at some point in time. Although it could sow confusion. I actually do think Dorinda was their best choice. It can't come back to them. She was never going to get banished. She. No one thought Dorinda was a. Was a traitor. I think Rob Rous is running that turret. Rob Rous is running. The only thing Rob is not running is the round table, which actually is quite smart.
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He.
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He runs the castle, he runs the missions, he runs the turret, and then he sits back and he takes it calm.
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Yeah, at the round table, I agree. But I think he's involved enough at the round table where it doesn't make him look suspicious.
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So let's hop over to breakfast. So we come in, they're coming into breakfast, and everyone is on Johnny's ass like Johnny is. It's about to be nothing but an uphill battle for Johnny going forward. And it's because Candace was like, johnny should have a shield I think they're just reading. They're reading too much into that.
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Well, I mean, that's how it is when you're out there. Like, one thing that somebody observes, even if it has nothing to do with what actually is going on, if you get the collective consciousness going in that direction, people latch onto it and they don't want to let go of it.
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So now Eric is Eric's first breakfast. Hang on.
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Spit it out, Bob.
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Sorry. Eric's first breakfast is traitor. He is like, oh, he can't.
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Yeah.
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Oh, the bagels are nice, aren't they? Like, he's so quiet. He doesn't want to engage. He doesn't want to look at one in the eye. He is shook, shattered, and shorn.
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I feel like Rob, at that point, he had to have been second guessing his.
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I mean, Eric is shitting bricks. Like, let's take a look.
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This is my first morning as a traitor.
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I mean, this.
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Look at this. Why does the chair look even bigger now? It looks like he's, like, sunk into the chair.
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It looks like his neck grew.
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Hi, Fox.
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Hi, Fi.
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I am so scared of saying anything. So just don't say anything.
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Oh, my God.
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Avoiding eye contact. So how would you feel being Rob, watching Eric at breakfast? How do you feel now after you've made your choice?
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At this point, I'm thinking to myself, well, if we have to move it towards Eric because he's acting suspicious, it's an easy sell.
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Oh, and Rob will do it.
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Oh, I. We've seen him do it.
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Rob does not give a fuck. He will throw you to the wolves, honey. You know, they come in, we find out Dorinda has been murdered. And Rob chooses to murder Dorinda because she trusts him. That's what he said. Because she trusts me. That's. This guy is cutthroat, man, and he.
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Does it with a smile.
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So we leave breakfast, and Tara is like. She is die hard for Johnny right now. She is going around on a. On a campaign. She has made it her mission. Y' all ain't gonna talk about my best friend like this. At this point in the show, it does not feel like she's going to be able to save him.
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It doesn't. And it also, like, is not great strategy to attach yourself so closely with someone. You know, whether they're faithful or traitor or on opposite sides, like, you're going to be skewed by their decisions.
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And right now there's basically literally nothing on. There's no heat on the traitors. The traitors might as well be faithfuls.
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Yeah, they might as well be. They literally are hiding in plain sight.
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One of my favorite moments of the episode is when Tara goes up to Kristen. She's about to get some good faith. She's like, ooh, girl, I figured it out. It's Steven.
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And then she flips it right back.
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I figured it out.
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Yeah, it's you.
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Let's look at that.
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I have, like, really strong gut feelings. Maybe it's Steven.
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I don't think it's Stephen.
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I would feel so defeated.
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I do want to be very, very clear with you because, like, there has been hesitation in me. Hear me out. Only because it has nothing to do with your voting or whatever. You just seem so scared all the time. And I think I naturally in real life gravitate to gravitate towards confidence.
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So then say, who do you think it could be?
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And if it's me, that's why it was you, girl.
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She filleted her. She filleted flambe, souffleed and sauteed her in that moment. I wouldn't want to go toe to toe with Kristen. Kristen is intimidating. She always is just so sharp. That hair. The suits and Kristen don't care. She will tell you to your face. You're. I think you're a traitor now.
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I love that, though. Like, I to me like that outward that, like straight, raw, like pure, unadulterated, like truth.
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Yeah.
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Like, I appreciate that.
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All right, let's go on to the mission. We get to see the traitors play some real mind games this week. And they have to climb into these boxes and they answer these questions and they have to find out what the traitors think about them. But of course, Alan is a monster and he does not let the traders answer the question. The turret. They have to climb out of their boxes and confirm and then answer the question.
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Climb back. I don't know about you, but I was paranoid all the time. We had to do stuff as traitors in front of the faithfuls that I was gonna get caught. Like, I was always wondering about, like, is it gonna make noise? Is it gonna be this? And right here in front of them, they're making them do it.
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Well, I remember cause I was being too playful. And one time. Cause we had to sneak around and I was like dragging the dagger over the casket and you were like.
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I was like, starbridge, stop.
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I was like, it's camp it. Eric is freaking out. Rob is. I don't know.
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He's pretty calm.
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What affects this guy?
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Nothing.
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Apparently he used to be a crisis counselor. If I'm in crisis, I'm calling Rob Rouse, Literally. So the first question is, who do the traitors think is most useful to them? Right. So they climb out and they agree on Terra and they get back in and they said it's to throw the Faithfuls off. That's what they said it was.
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Right. And I think it was okay. But, like, I. Like, that was fine for a first answer. To put it in there. Don't put John, like, say Tara. But the real genius comes right after this.
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Yes.
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When they come back out a second time and they decide, you know what, let's put Lipinski for everything. We got a clip of it. Let's check it out.
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I think if we do Tara for every single answer, it gives them laping. Yeah, I agree.
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I knew I picked a good one, bro.
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We really are.
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That was gonna be.
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I love this.
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Eric is so little bro coded.
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He's so excited to be working with him.
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This is. This is you and fucking Dylan.
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When it comes to this game, the most valuable thing is information. So it's far more important to confuse them than to get more money.
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When they decide to do Tara for every answer, it's really smart because it's because they want money. Yes, we need money. So without saying what it is, we're just going to give you guys a clue. Look, guys, we're always going to choose Terra. So if you just always pick Tara, you will at least get some money.
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And everybody catches onto that except Tara and Johnny. Those two at the end, they still don't put Tara to get the money attention. We are all putting Tara.
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But Tara's like, I'm using my dignity. I'm not gonna play their little game. Do you wanna leave broke?
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Do you want the money? Do you understand the objective?
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And it looks weird.
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Yes, it does.
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But of course, Alan's a monster. And his final thing is like, actually, we've one more for you. Who do the traitors want to shortlist for murder tonight? He tells them to get back in those boxes and we're locking four of them. And then they all go to open their boxes up. And then Tara, Natalie, Kristen and Johnny are stuck in their boxes.
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And I think really good choices by Rob and Eric to put Johnny and Tara in, knowing that they're not going to be murdered, but to put them in, because it looks like if they were traitors, they would put themselves in.
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So now we're back in the castle, at least for the people who are not locked in their boxes, right? And on the way back, Maura is. Now when she's in the Rover, she is like, I'm not fucking around. I am 100% locked in on Johnny.
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Yes, she. 100%. That's her. That's her thing. And, you know, other people as well. And I got to tell you, Johnny does look guilty.
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So then they're back in the castle, and then this is where. I'm sorry, I can't. I'm not laughing at them. Yeah, I need to be clear. I'm not laughing at them. But Johnny and Tara are hilarious. So now they're, like, arm in arm, walking together. Like, now everyone's like, what's going on? And they're like, we're gonna tell everyone we're friends. You should have said that from the beginning.
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But how do they not know it? They're both Olympic figure skaters.
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When they come forward about being like, we were dishonest. Now, I don't trust anything you say.
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Nothing. Nothing. Okay. We were lying through our teeth up until this point, but now we're gonna tell you the truth from here on. Come on.
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Yeah, listen, we're gonna be talking about all of this and more, so stay tuned for that.
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All right, let's talk about the roundtable. I mean, Tara decides to kick it off by revealing that her and Johnny are best friends. Right? And I mean, immediately, it backfires.
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Oh, Within. Within seconds.
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So let's watch it. We actually got a clip of it.
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Yeah. Let's look at it.
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I'm a faithful.
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I promise you Johnny's a faithful. How do you know that?
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How can you promise?
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That's so good. Exactly what I was thinking, Mara.
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But you said, like, I'm gonna. I promise you that Johnny's a faithful. How do you. How can you make that promise? Oh.
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Oh. They didn't think it through.
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We have worked together for over a decade. We come from a very harsh background.
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In Olympic sports, so we rely on.
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Each other a lot. Oh, I would love it. I would love it if Lipinski was actually a traitor and she pulled one over on him.
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She would never. I don't think she.
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Can you imagine? I think for me, like, if there was another person that I'd worked with in here, I wouldn't blindly trust them. In the context of a game like this. I feel like I will blindly trust Johnny. I will blindly trust Tara the whole way. We are best friends.
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Johnny drops the bomb. They're best friends. And then he's like. As a unit, we want to speak, and we're going to go After Steven.
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Right.
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And then Steven's like, well, that's weak. He's like, ah, it's not a good one.
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Natalie was on to Stephen because he felt weird. And then Rob was actually considering moving in that direction.
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I got to be honest, I do not know how they survived this roundtable. Because at one point Johnny says, I'm not a traitor. Because I'm not a traitor. I'd be like, I'm not. I'd be like, we gotta have a conversation about this. Run that back. You're not a traitor because you're. In fact, the best thing he said was, because I play the game poorly doesn't mean I'm a traitor. That's actually the best.
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That's smart.
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That might have been the thing that actually saved him.
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Yeah. But I also. I want to take a little bit of pause in what you said. Like, I'm not a traitor because I'm not a trader. I know it sounds really stupid, but, like, if you don't understand how to express to someone else that you're not a trader and the only evidence you have is that you're not a trader, plainly stating it is maybe the most he can do. He's not necessarily like a competition strategy based performer. So, like, there's a weird kind of truth to him saying, I'm not a traitor. And all I can tell you is I'm not.
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I think the real thing that put the nail in the coffin for Stephen, and this is what put the nail in the coffin for me. When Natalie accused Stephen, he just accused her back. And that looks weird.
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Bad. It's bad.
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So when Stephen gets up there, this is actually one of my favorite speeches. He goes, I'm unfaithful. You blew it. Honestly, if I'm unfaithful, I'm gonna give you a little sting, man.
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We never really even got to know what he was thinking, what he was doing.
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I know. I wanted to know what's going on with Steven. Like, what's happening? Where are you? He's not playing hard enough, which is probably gonna make him look suspicious, because it looks like you're trying to float under the radar.
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Yeah.
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So we are back in the castle after the roundtable. The vibes are low. I don't think Johnny really understands how the game works, because now Johnny is convinced he's gonna be murdered. I'm like, baby, the traitors will not never murder you.
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The reason why you're still there is because the traitors want to banish you next time. You know, the other thing that we saw was Eric. Now for the first time is going to get confronted by Kristen. She saw, she noticed that at the roundtable, like his demeanor, his actions weren't the same. And now we're going to see whether he can handle the heat or not. Let's take a look.
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Question. Why didn't you have like a ton of stuff to say tonight?
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Woo.
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Like deer in the headlights feel.
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Eric, if I'm being very honest with you, it's like, oh, what do you think?
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Yeah.
E
No, I'm like, say something.
C
First of all, if you look at all the round tables for the past few nights, I've kept all my words for the end tonight. I was so lost because I was so sure on Johnny. And then he had that defense. And then I, I'm looking over at all everybody that I trust and everybody's telling me a different name. And I didn't want to just throw away a vote either. And that's why a vote of receiving.
E
But at some point you have to have your own opinion though.
B
No, no, no. Right.
C
So, but.
E
And not just follow where the person feels like it's hiding.
C
No, no, no. I don't know.
B
She is like, I'm on to you.
A
I think a better strategy for Kristen would be to go around to everyone else and say, hey, did you see how Eric was acting?
B
Yeah. But then she does the classic mistake of spilling her secrets to a traitor. Let's look at it.
E
I don't trust Eric. He's way too fucking quiet, man.
B
Here comes this fucking snake charmer.
E
I don't trust Eric. He like, has no opinion and he's like.
B
What?
E
It's becoming a little too much.
B
Poor Eric.
E
So if I murder tomorrow, just look at Eric.
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How many times a day do you think that's said in the castle and it's wrong? She just happens to be right here.
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She looks straight into Rob and Mark's faces and she goes, if I murder tonight, look at Eric. That could be a big problem for Eric coming up soon.
A
It's a good way to target someone, isn't it?
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Oh, it's great.
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Like, think about it. Like if you're playing if you're a traitor and like, man, if that guy's gone tonight, it's probably this person.
B
Let's find out who they're gonna murder with this vicious little jack in the box. Honey, this is just Eric taking a master class watching Rob. That's what it always is.
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It really is like a little bit the teacher of the student.
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Are they traitors or is He a henchman I don't like. I'm not trying to be shady. No shade, Eric. But is he a traitor or is he a henchman? At this point, Eric looks at Rob and goes, if Kristen comes for me, can you help me? And I just. I would not trust Rob knowing what Eric knows about what Rob has done to the other traitors.
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Right.
B
Why would he trust him?
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Because here's the thing. He doesn't have a choice. He's in a position. He was forced into this position by ultimatum. So basically what he's doing is saying, hey, listen, man, if they come for me, you got my back. And of course Rob's gonna say yes.
B
Yeah.
A
And of course he's just saying it to say it because he can't say anything else. Eric's not gonna rally the troops to get Rob out. That's not happening at this point.
B
Krista would've been like, no. The shortlisted players have been summoned to the dungeon to play a little game of Jack in the box. And they get down there and obviously we don't get to see what happens.
A
But it's diabolical, right? Like, Alan can't do anything regular. It can't be like, okay, we're gonna see you tomorrow morning. No, you're gonna go into the dungeon, you're gonna play a little dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
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Boom. You're gone love from your childhood. I'll ruin it, and I'm happy to do so.
A
Yeah. It's fun to watch, though. Who do you think is going home?
B
All right, so we have Tara, Natalie, Kristen, and Johnny. I know that I would kill Kristen if I was Eric. I would be like, I need that. I need that. And then if I was Rob, I would do it too. Because if I wanted to weaponize that against Eric in the future. So honestly, it's a win win for both Rob and Eric to get rid of Kristen. That's what I would do.
A
I think also from Rob's point of view, it's smart at this to kill Natalie. I think Tara and Johnny for sure are safe. We're bringing him back. It's going to continue the argument. And that's it.
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Knowing Rob, he'll find a way to put Eric in the box some. The guy's brilliant. I hate it. And we'll be right back in just a minute with the faithful. So nice she got to play the game twice. Dorinda Medley.
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Next up, a guest who knows a thing or two about navigating a table full of strong personalities. But Even she couldn't escape the traitor's wrath. Joining us now, the recently murdered faithful Dorinda Medley.
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Hi. Thank you for having me.
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Dorinda, I love you.
D
I love you too.
B
We have to ask you. Okay. What is harder to survive, a Real Housewives reunion or a Traders roundtable?
D
The roundtable, just from beginning to end, it's very intense. Even when you're lining up to go into the roundtable and they start that music, I never want to hear that music again. Every time I hear the music, I literally feel scared.
B
It sets a tone.
A
It does. If you're not nervous or anxious, it will get you in that space.
D
Absolutely.
B
But to be fair, Dorinda, you have actually, at roundtables, you've never had any heat on you between two seasons. You've never had heat on you.
D
Well, yes, because I'm trying to keep the spotlight off me. I have to wear those outfits. I mean, I gotta get some outfits out there. I've got my priorities straight.
B
Well, you look stunning on this season. That's not even up for debate. You look absolutely stunning this season.
A
Well, you walked into the castle for a second time. Now you got a second chance. Tell me about the strategy a little bit. What was different this time compared to last this time?
D
I didn't really have any strategy. I kind of. My strategy was just to be to expect the unexpected and try to stay under the radar for much as I can and try to get to know people and watch their movements and see, like, how they move in the crowd.
A
When you were murdered, was that a surprise?
D
Yes, I was very surprised.
A
Well, I think you deserve to see what happened. So do you wanna see, like, how the other traitors decided that you were gonna be the one?
D
Why not?
A
I think for murder. Tonight we go. Dorinda, she fully trusts me, so I think it's safe.
C
Losing an ally, but I think we have enough.
A
I think so, too. Night night.
B
So Rob Roush said that he chose you because you fully trusted him. How does that feel to hear I'm.
D
In love with Rob Rowell? So he could do no wrong in my book.
A
Wait a minute, Dorit. I had better murder you.
D
He could do no wrong in my book. The fact that even though I was getting murdered just then, but he said she really trusts me and she's my ally. I'm like, that's enough for me.
B
You better than me? You better than me? Because that would have pissed me off.
D
And in a scene where I'm getting murdered and I have butterflies.
A
Dorinda, what are we doing. We went to Traitors to win. Traitors.
D
I know, but that's okay. You want me to be honest or you want me to lie?
B
Would you rather win the Traitors or go on Love island with Rob Rausch?
D
Well, I don't wanna be naked like they are on Love Island. I mean, that's my biggest fear. But I've gotta be honest with you, I feel less bad now. I don't know why, but after I made it through the first breakfast, it was all uphill for me from there. I'm like, I' I remember they gave.
A
You a standing ovation.
B
You got a standing O when you walked through the breakfast door. How did that feel?
D
Unbelievable. And it was very funny because at the door I just started bawling at the door. I don't know why. First of all, you're kind of emotional the whole time you're at the Traders because your cortisone levels are so high and your nervous system is so on overdrive the whole time. So I really didn't expect me to have that kind of reaction. But it just felt like such a, for me, a redemption.
A
Looking back at the entire experience, was there any piece of advice or conversation that you wish you paid more attention to while you were in the castle?
D
The truth is, Maura, me, Natalie, we got enchanted by Rob. I mean, Rob was, Listen, I'm a 61 year old woman, so my sort of like years of being kind of taken in by a man or being charmed are not around so much. So, you know, Rob would say the night like at breakfast, he'd be like, oh, you know, you look so beautiful today.
B
I'm like, that's it, I'll never bother you. But you did look beautiful. He wasn't lying. You did look beautiful. And you shouldn't have fucking trusted him. I'm on a one man mission to get all the women in America to turn on Rob Rousey.
D
He had the loyalty, especially of me, Maura and Natalie. We were ride or die for him.
A
Was there like a specific vote that you cast or didn't cast that you look back on as your biggest regret?
D
I really wish I just sort of threw out the chance and put at least put Rob forward because I think it would have created a think tank of things. Like people might have shifted their thoughts on him and opened up a new thought process. I really do.
B
Do you remember finding out that you were murdered? Let's watch that moment together.
D
How can you forget?
B
There it is. And let's watch that moment together. And Their breakfast after when everyone finds out. Let's watch. Let's look at that footage. Oh, my God.
A
What the fuck? Wait, who we missing?
D
Dorinda.
B
Dorinda.
E
What the fuck did she do?
B
Look at Eric.
A
Overacting.
B
Look at fucking Eric. Oh, no. Bitch. You knew what? That's a cute look.
A
That looks like exciting watch.
D
By order of the traitors, you have been murdered. Signed, the traitors. I mean, I'm very sad, but you know what they say. Curiosity kills the cat. I'm sure I've put a lot of faith into some of you traitors. And you know what? I would have loved to have stayed on, but you know, the queen's got to get back to Bluestone Manor. Let's do a toast. To Dorinda.
A
Dorinda and Blue Stone Manor.
E
We'll see you on a stone Manor.
B
Blue Stone Manor.
A
I love me some Dorinda.
E
Your little wifey.
B
I have to ask you the most important question. Was that Chanel you were wearing when you read that note?
D
Very old.
B
It looked great. Now that we've gotten the most important question out of the way.
D
Very old. And the jacket that I wore in the lunch and the breakfast rented was old Chanel. I broke out all my old Chanel because it was the classics, you know? Remember when Chanel did that whole Russian collection?
B
Oh, yeah, yeah.
D
That was one of the best pieces.
B
First of all, Eric is shitting bricks. Eric. I don't think Eric's cut out for the third shift. He's not made for this live. So he's the first one to be like, oh, no, Dorinda. How does it feel watching Eric say that when he fully agreed to sign your death certificate?
D
You know, I love Eric, but I am surprised that he made it so far. I really am. That one surprised me. You know, Listen, a little bit. I do think a lot of it is strategy, but a little bit is luck. You know what I mean?
B
Oh, my God. You kidding me?
D
You don't know who's gonna end up in that position. And I would have loved to have continued. It would have been remarkable for me. But I was okay. I felt like I had really made my stake.
B
Who were your true ride or die allies in the castle? Like, were those bonds based on strategy or, like, genuine connection?
D
Well, I really felt bonded to Natalie. Cause I felt like she really was switched on and watching everything and just. She was so fully in it. She's brilliant, she's smart, she's observant. She doesn't miss a trick. She almost had, you know, she just. She's very likable, but you know that she will do what she's gotta do, including kill me. So it was that managing thing where you had to both befriend her but beware of her, right?
A
Well, I think I know the answer to this question, but now that you're out of the game, is there anyone that you're rooting for to win it all?
D
I would really love Kristen to win. I just think she is clever and she's played the game well. I would take every cooking trick I could take from her because, you know, I love to cook. My dream would be to have her up at Bluestone Manor and cook with her. She just has an aura. I can't explain it to you where you're just drawn to her.
B
Nice.
A
I was surprised. I thought you were gonna say Rob because you were so excited that he murdered you when you saw that scene of him in the turret. But Kristen, I think is.
D
Well, I think it would be between Rob and Kristen, to tell you the truth. Those would be my two favorites.
B
What is your final message to the players that you left behind in the castle? Like, what do they need to hear from Dorinda Medley right now?
D
I would say beware.
B
Thank you so much for joining us, Dorinda. Next season, you're going all the way, Dorinda 2026.
A
Stay tuned because we've got more coming up right after this.
E
Yay.
D
Thank you for having me and keep on watching.
B
Welcome back. It is time to dawn your green robes and talk fashion. For those of you listening to the podcast, if you want to see all the looks we discuss, check it out on the video version on Peacock or YouTube. And if you're only listening, you can tell that right now, Boston Rob is wearing a bright canary yellow zoot suit with a giant hat, a huge flamingo feather, and 87 brooches.
A
Don't gamble, kids. If you lose a bet, you always have to pay it off.
B
Let's look at some of these looks. Who we got up first? Natalie. Oh, God, she's so stunning. This look is so great. She looks so powerful.
A
The pants are nice. The top kind of looks like an apron cut in half with no top with no shirt. Like a half a apron, diagonal apron. I like the pants, though.
B
All right, let's go to our next person. Mark is wearing a pea coat with a nice double breasted suit and a chain with a little Kangol looking hat. I only noticed that he's hiding the hair.
A
My fashion goes back to 1987. The days of Boston and the streets and the hip hop. But Mark looked like he went all the way back to 1937. Cause it looked like an old time movie. Like one of those old gangster movies.
B
With a Tommy gun.
A
I like his outfit. I would actually, maybe I wouldn't really wear like, not the chain thing and like, but I like the coat and the hat.
B
It is very Linda Manuel Moran. It's very like, Mr. President, now we have one of the fashion icons of the show. Who is Kristen. Kristen looks like she owns 51% of this company.
A
She.
B
The chain is back. She always looks so powerful. That stripe on the side makes her legs look so long. It's a two piece suit with a white stripe going down the side. She just looks amazing, Stunning, beautiful, powerful.
A
No notes. She definitely. It's giving executive to me.
B
You got the boss Rob sample approval. That's very hard to get on this.
A
It is, it is.
B
Especially two in a row. Especially if you're wearing a brooch and you are.
A
But she only has one and that's a plus. Right? It's a nice accessory.
B
We have Tara Lepinski. She's wearing like a. Like a tweed two piece with like a sweater underneath. It looks kind of like a cable knit sweater. This is how people think millennial white women dress. Like, if you were like, I'm gonna dress up as a millennial white woman, this is the outfit you would wear a little bit.
A
It feels like a modest Dallas Cowboy cheerleader, right?
B
It is.
A
Yeah, it is.
B
It is very Dallas Cowboy cheerleader coated. Yeah.
A
I don't hate it, but like, I don't know if it's like Trader's Castle, Scotland.
B
Now we have Rob. Rob Rouse is wearing a. Is this argyle?
A
No, he got this straight out of Alan's closet. Okay. He didn't bring his clothes to the castle this day. And he goes, alan, you got something I could wear? And Alan's like, sure, Rob, here we go.
B
He's wearing a crop top, argyle sweater with some blue jeans. I mean, he looks good. He looks like a model. He looks like he'd be innocently. He's showing his. His signature arms and his signature snake tattoos, which should be a sign to all the faithfuls, to be honest. But he looks good. I think he looks really, really good here.
A
Yeah, there's no way he packed that. Like, that was acquired in Scotland. Right.
B
It looks good though.
A
He went to a store here and got there like it's giving like 1950s golfer. And he's like, ah, forget the undershirt. Wow.
B
I mean, he looks like fine china. Alan Cumming has the size of his hair dyed some sort of blue. He's doing like a nod to trans community by wearing the hairs blue, pink and white like the trans flag. He is wearing a like brocade two piece suit with these white kind of like elevated shoes and this big pussycat bow. A pussy bow right over his chest. It looks really. I love this look, man.
A
You hit the nail on the head when you said fine china because I think my grandma has those dishes in that exact pattern in her like little curio cabinet.
B
Okay. Is there any part of this you'd wear maybe, maybe the, the, the. The pussy bow or the, or the sequin suit or just the shoes?
A
Listen, Bob, you know my buddy Bob Barker, right?
B
Yeah, of course. We don't know Bob Barker.
A
The Price is Right. I might be wearing it.
B
For me, the top look of the week. I mean, I'm almost always gonna give it to Kristen. Kristen is the fashion icon of the week. She looks amazing. She looks powerful. She. That is a don't fuck with me suit. You ever heard of there's a fuck me pump and there's a don't fuck with me suit and she's wearing a don't fuck with me suit And I think she looks so good.
A
I go with Alan's grandma's dishes.
B
There it is.
A
Grabbing it.
B
The dishes made it. Listen, before we say goodbye, let's say what's on our minds. Personally, I have some thoughts on who I think they should murder. And let's see if you all agree at home. I mean, again, I would go for Kristen. I don't think anyone thinks she's a traitor. She will never get banished and she is too smart for her own good.
A
I think Kristen is a very good choice as well. And I'll also put Natalie in that category because I think if Natalie stays in this game much longer, she's going to end up being a problem for the traders and she's liable to figure it out.
B
We both agree Johnny and Tara are safe.
A
They're safe. They are safe and probably will be safe for the rest of the time.
B
Yeah, I honestly almost feel back. They're about to get used up, honey. Now that Colton's gone. Who is the leader of the Faithfuls?
A
Man, you gonna stump me. Who is the leader of the faithfuls?
B
My first thought was there's no one. But I think this is actually probably the craziest thing. It's Rob. Rob is low key, the leader of the faithful. They all trust him.
A
Oh, My gosh, you're right. He.
B
That's crazy.
A
I just had an idea. I feel like Rob is doing what you were trying to do last season.
B
And much better at it, for real.
A
Like, you were so good on the traitor side and the faithful side, and I feel like Rob's executing that.
B
He's figured it out. He's got that charm. And I think a part of it is, like, honestly, charming women in the way that he's doing it is that I can try women and be like, yeah, you love me. We're friends. But he's got them in a different way. You know what it is? The lady.
A
I mean, Dorinda just said she was happy to be murdered by him. Like, what is going on?
B
Which I would have liked that, Grace. I mean, the women want to be with him. The guys want to be him. Everyone looks up to him. I cannot believe that Rob Roush is the leader of the faithfuls and the leader of the traitors. So how's Eric's first day on the job, in your opinion?
A
4 out of 10?
B
Yeah, it's not great. I think what Eric is doing is he's setting himself up for Rob to use him as, like, a feeding meat.
A
As an offering, as a piece in his chest.
B
I agree.
A
I say four out of ten, but three out of those four are just for being able to stay alive and not get, you know, murdered by Rob or banished by Rob already.
B
And he got clocked on his first.
A
Day on the job, he got clocked and his reactions weren't good. But. But to be fair and to cut him a little bit of slack, it is a complete mind shift, and he has to, like, mentally change from, like, I'm a faithful to now I'm a trader. And that's probably not easy to do.
B
Eric's basically got to just play his cards right and try to get off of people's radar, and we'll find out if that's going to work out.
A
All right, thank you so much for watching. Make sure to watch episode 10 of the Traders only on Peacock next Thursday, and you can find us on the Traders official podcast, dropping after every episode on peacock and YouTube.
B
Don't forget to listen and follow wherever you get your podcast, so you never miss an episode. And also, do not forget to to find and follow us on socials. Hetraders us everywhere. Bye. Don't die.
A
The Traders official podcast is a Peacock original produced by USG Audio and TH Studios.
B
The series is hosted by me, Bob.
A
The Drag Queen and me, Boston Rob.
B
It's Executive produced by Shane Redsar and Jill Johnson at TH Studios and by.
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Josh Block at USG Audio co executive.
B
Produced by Michael Wolf Story produced by Zoe Clar post production and editing by.
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Stephen Wong production by TH Studios Production support by Josh Lalo Longi at USG Audio.
B
Music and clips provided by Studio Lambert.
A
If you'd like to watch this podcast, you can find us on Peacock or YouTube. New episodes of the Traitor Season 4 are available on on Thursdays at 6pM Pacific, 9pM Eastern on Peacock.
B
Thanks for listening.
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Boston Rob
Guest: Dorinda Medley (recently banished faithful)
In Episode 9, “Boxed In,” Bob the Drag Queen and Boston Rob deliver a comedic yet incisive breakdown of the latest twists in The Traitors US. Their conversation covers the induction of Eric as a new Traitor, the murder of Dorinda Medley, shifting alliances, standout moments at the roundtable, a high-stress mission, and the castle’s best looks. The episode’s emotional core is a candid interview with Dorinda Medley, offering a firsthand perspective on trust, betrayal, and her dramatic exit.
Rob’s Chilling Ultimatum: [03:34]
“You can either join me, become a traitor, or I'm gonna kill you right now.”—Rob
Eric’s Panic: [03:08]
“I need a helmet and an adult diaper because I am about to shit my pants and my head's about to explode. This is so stressful.”—Eric
Bob on Rob’s Ruthlessness: [06:34]
“Rob does not give a fuck. He will throw you to the wolves, honey.”
Kristen on Confidence: [08:11] “You just seem so scared all the time. And I think I naturally in real life gravitate towards confidence.”—Kristen
Bob on Fashion: [34:28] “He looks like fine china. Alan Cumming has the size of his hair dyed some sort of blue... he is wearing like brocade two piece suit with these white kind of like elevated shoes and this big pussycat bow... I love this look, man.”
The episode is a lively blend of strategic insight, pop culture wit, and heartfelt interviews. Bob and Rob’s chemistry brings both playful shading and genuine critique. Dorinda’s charm shines, even in defeat, and the show’s ongoing tension between logic and emotion is a recurring theme. If you missed the episode, this conversation captures the politics, psychology, and fun—and keeps you hooked for the next twist.
“I would say beware.”
– Dorinda Medley’s closing message to her castmates (30:13)
For more fashion, gameplay analysis, and behind-the-scenes stories, catch the video version on Peacock or YouTube.