A Jury of His “Peers”

Summary

A Jury of His “Peers” – Episode Summary

Podcast Title: The Trial of Diddy
Hosts: Kayla Brantley, Germania Rodriguez Poleo, & Marjorie Hernandez
Release Date: May 9, 2025
Episode: A Jury of His “Peers”

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Introduction to the Case

In this gripping episode of The Trial of Diddy, hosted by the Daily Mail’s award-winning podcast team, journalists Kayla Brantley, Germania Rodriguez Poleo, and Marjorie Hernandez delve into the high-profile federal charges facing Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs. Once a titan of the music industry, Diddy now stands accused of sex trafficking, racketeering, and running a criminal enterprise in New York. The episode titled "A Jury of His ‘Peers’" focuses on the intricate jury selection process that is pivotal to the unfolding trial.

Jury Selection Delays and Dynamics

The episode opens with a discussion on the recent delays in jury selection. Initially slated to conclude on Friday, the process was extended to Monday due to concerns over juror dropout rates during the Thursday court recess. Marjorie Hernandez notes, “There was some concern that more jurors were going to back out,” highlighting the judge’s decision to finalize the selection on Monday to prevent further delays ([00:34]).

Renato Stabil, Managing Director of Dubin Research and Consulting, provides expert insight into the complexities of selecting a fair and impartial jury in such a high-profile case. He explains, “You have to find jurors that are going to say, yeah, I look at him that way and I'm gonna respect his constitutional rights” ([06:32]).

Unusual Juror Pool Composition

The hosts discuss the diverse and unexpected composition of the juror pool, including individuals from the entertainment industry. Germania Rodriguez Poleo asks, “How normal was this jury pool?” to which Renato Stabil responds, “It's New York City, so you get a wide range of people” ([04:16]). Notable dismissals included a Simon and Schuster executive working on a book with Al B. Sure and two HBO employees, despite HBO's documentary on Diddy ([03:14]).

Defendant’s Behavior in Court

A significant portion of the episode examines Diddy's courtroom demeanor. Marjorie Hernandez observes, “Diddy was having a great time with it. He's putting on the charm” ([09:15]). Renato Stabil comments on Diddy’s behavior, stating, “He wants to build rapport. He wants them to see him as another human being who is in a tough situation” ([09:42]). The hosts explore whether Diddy’s charismatic interactions could influence the jurors’ perception, especially given the gravity of the charges against him.

Key Witnesses and Prosecution Strategy

The prosecution’s strategy is another focal point. The lack of testimony from Victim Three raises questions, with Marjorie Hernandez noting, “It's very unusual for a key government witness to go MIA on the eve of trial” ([16:43]). Renato Stabil reassures listeners that the prosecution has multiple victims ready to testify, maintaining the strength of their case despite Victim Three’s absence ([16:53]).

Cassie Ventura, Victim One, is highlighted as a pivotal witness. Her upcoming testimony, especially being heavily pregnant and confronting Diddy in court, is expected to be emotionally charged. Marjorie Hernandez remarks, “She was in that courtroom and seeing her react, I'm sure they haven't seen each other for years” ([25:06]).

Defense Team Dynamics and Challenges

The episode sheds light on the defense team’s internal dynamics, particularly the controversial involvement of Mark Agnefolo. Despite not being officially part of Diddy’s defense, Agnefolo advises on juror selection through his podcast with TMZ, leading to judicial reprimand. He controversially referred to the prosecution team as “a pack of white women,” an assertion that Judge Aaron Subramanian found unacceptable ([20:14]).

Additionally, the defense has recently added Nicole Westmoreland, a seasoned attorney and rape survivor, to bolster their legal strategy. Her presence is seen as a strategic move to resonate with the court and jurors ([21:25]).

Prosecution Team and Judicial Oversight

The prosecution is led by Maureen Comey, daughter of former FBI Director James Comey, renowned for handling significant cases like that of Ghislaine Maxwell. The all-female prosecution team underscores the case's seriousness and its focus on female victims. Judge Aaron Subramanian, appointed by President Joe Biden, is portrayed as a strict and no-nonsense figure, ensuring the trial proceeds efficiently ([23:22]).

Upcoming Trial Expectations

As the episode concludes, the hosts anticipate the trial's next phases with heightened anticipation. With jury selection wrapping up and opening statements imminent, the ensuing weeks promise intense courtroom drama. Highlights to expect include:

• Cassie Ventura’s Testimony: Her account will shed light on the alleged abuse, particularly after viewing viral footage of the incident ([25:06]).

• Potential Witnesses: Speculation surrounds the involvement of entertainment figures like Michael B. Jordan and Kid Cudi, who may be called to testify ([07:07]).

• Defense Strategies: Observing whether Diddy's charismatic behavior will continue to influence juror perceptions or if it will backfire as the prosecution's case strengthens ([09:15]).

• Family Support: The presence of Diddy’s family, including his children and mother, may play a role in shaping the jury's sentiment ([27:30]).

Notable Quotes

• Marjorie Hernandez: “At the height of his career, Sean Diddy Combs had it all.” ([01:07])
• Hermania Rodriguez Poleo: “The judge needs to get it down to 45 jurors before they start exercising strikes.” ([04:16])
• Renato Stabil: “He is entitled to that. He is presumed innocent. And until the prosecution proves their case beyond a reasonable doubt, he is an innocent man.” ([06:32])
• Hermania Rodriguez Poleo: “The show of his life, for sure.” ([10:37])

Conclusion

"A Jury of His ‘Peers’" offers a comprehensive look into the early stages of Sean 'Diddy' Combs' trial, highlighting the critical aspects of jury selection, courtroom behavior, and the strategies employed by both the prosecution and defense. As the trial progresses, listeners can expect detailed analyses and real-time updates, providing an in-depth understanding of one of the entertainment industry's most shocking legal battles.

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Transcript

[Marjorie Hernandez]

Seriously popular.

[Renato Stabil]

The following episode explores a number of allegations regarding the artist Diddy. He denies all charges and has pled not guilty to sex trafficking, racketeering and transportation to engage in prostitution.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

Welcome to the Trial of Diddy podcast. I'm Marjorie Hernandez.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

And I'm Hermania Rodriguez Poleo.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

We'll be back in a second.

[Renato Stabil]

If you like this episode, we think you'll love this.

[Sarah Vine]

I'm Sarah Vine. And I'm Peter Hitchens. And this is, alas, Vin Hitchens asking all the big questions this week. Weed legalise it or not? Not. Don't give it away. Do please join us wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you.

[Renato Stabil]

The biggest secret in the entertainment industry that really wasn't a secret at all.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

At the height of his career, Sean Diddy Combs had it all.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

Everything Diddy touched turned to gold. Now he faces multiple federal charges in New York, including sex trafficking and allegedly running a criminal enterprise.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

Another woman has now come forward alleging.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

Comes of sexual assault. Music mogul and rapper Sean Diddy co.

[Sarah Vine]

He claims she was drugged and sexual.

[Renato Stabil]

Sexually assaulted by Combs.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

Oh, this guy is dangerous.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

From freak offs to the mysterious list, the shocking case that has gripped the world is finally here and we'll be bringing you every detail as it happens. Welcome to the trial of Diddy. So jury selection in Diddy's sex trafficking trial became this week, but we've seen a lot of delayed. It was supposed to end today on Friday, but the judge cited with Diddy's defense team saying that he preferred to finalize that process on Monday. There was some concerns that more jurors were going to back out. Apparently in the break that the court took on Thursday, already they lost some jurors. So the judge appeared to be leaning towards finalizing this process on Monday as a way to not lose more jurors, which I thought was interesting. The state really opposed that measure, so it was a win for Diddy in the end.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

From time to time, we'll be referencing Dan in the show. That's Dan Bates, our very experienced court reporter. He's one of just a handful of journalists reporting from the inside of the courthouse and he will be there for us and DailyMail.com, mail online every day.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

That's right. He's sending us updates in real time as the trial progresses. So far, we know that 43 jurors need to be whittled down to 12 jurors and six, six alternates by Monday. As I said, this process was supposed to end today, but instead it's going to happen on Monday right before opening statements. The judge claims that this is not going to delay opening statements on Monday.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

Today we have our guest, Renato Stabil, to unpack this whole complicated jury selection process. Now, thank you, Renato, for joining us. And Renato is the managing director of Dubin Research and Consulting based here in New York, and he is also a friend of the podcast. Welcome, Renato.

[Renato Stabil]

Thanks a lot for having me. Good to be talking to you.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

So let's get right down to it. I think this jury pool was quite interesting. I don't know if it's just a New York City thing, but it was quite fascinating that we had one juror who was an executive at Simon and Schuster and was actually working on a book with Al B. Sure. Of course, that juror was let go. We also had two workers from hbo. Even though, as we know, there was a huge bombshell documentary about Diddy on hbo. How normal was this jury pool? It really. I was expecting this process to not be as interesting as it was.

[Renato Stabil]

Yeah, you know, look, it's New York City, so you get a wide range of people. I'm not that surprised. These things happen, especially in these really large, high profile jury selections where you're bringing in hundreds of people. You know, you're whittling it down to people really first and foremost, that can actually sit for 10 weeks. So that's probably the most difficult hurdle to get over. And then once you get past that, people who say that they can be fair and impartial. But, you know, I think the judge needs to get it down to 45 jurors before they start exercising strikes. There's some math behind that that, you know, I won't bore you with, but it's based on the number of jurors plus the number of alternates, plus the number of strikes that each party is entitled to. And so that's how you get to the 45. You actually only need 40. But the judge is being conservative and he's going to have a few more.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

The judge seemed a little desperate to get jurors because in some cases, if the potential jurors have heard about the case, they are immediately dismissed. But in this case, most jurors knew who Diddy was and even said they have seen reports and the video of him assaulting Cassie. So a lot of the jurors who said they are aware of the case, they have seen the video are still in the pool.

[Renato Stabil]

Yeah. In a case that's this high profile, I mean, look, I think it would be strange if you found jurors that hadn't heard of the case or hadn't heard of Diddy. I'd be a lot more concerned about those people because I have to think, where do you live? You know, you're not part of the world if you don't know about this case and if you don't know about Diddy. So they couldn't apply a standard where if you know about the case or if you know about Diddy, you can't be a juror. The question is, can you be fair and impartial? Can you listen to the evidence? Can you give Diddy, you know, the presumption of innocence? Can you look at him as he sits there now? And a lot of people can't. But remember, he is entitled to that. He is presumed innocent. And until the prosecution proves their case beyond a reasonable doubt, he is an innocent man. And you have to find jurors that are gonna say, yeah, I look at him that way and I'm gonna respect his constitutional rights.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

We talk about Diddy, obviously, such a major figure in the hip hop world and in entertainment, period. But jurors also saw a list of potential witnesses who could be testifying. And that list is also celebrity packed. We heard Michael B. Jordan might be called, Mike Myers, Kid Cudi, all sorts of people in the entertainment industry. So it was also interesting to see how jurors, potential jurors reacted to that list and what the judge asked them. Can you go over a little bit about that, Renato?

[Renato Stabil]

Yeah. So look, obviously besides Diddy, you have this star studded list of potential witnesses. We've talked about this before. One of the concerns that I think both sides have are these stealth jurors, right? People that will just say anything to get onto the jury and won't be honest with you. And especially when they see that some of these celebrities might be showing up. Look, this is exciting. This might be the most exciting thing that will happen in a lot of jurors lives all year, maybe in 10 years. So, you know, the fact that you have all those celebrities, it adds to whether or not you think people are trying to game the system just to get onto the jury.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

I have to say Hermania has been doing a great job and also blogging as we're taking Dan Bates notes, who again has been in court. Hermionia has been updating our live feed and there have been a lot of interesting things that came out during this jury selection process. Anything in particular that really interested you her much?

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

Definitely. And I wanted to ask Renato about it because I was under the impression that defendants had to really keep to themselves, not smile to the jury, not be laughing at their jokes, not making eye contact. But Diddy has been described by the people in the courtroom as super engaged, nodding along to the jurors that he likes laughing at their jokes. There was a moment where Diddy shared a joke with his lawyers after a female juror said that she once fainted in school when a teacher talked about oral sex. She was dismissed because she said she doesn't do well with the topic. Diddy was having a great time with it. He's turned around, kept laughing with one of his supporters, was wearing a free puff sweatshirt. We had an interesting moment where a reporter from Fox 5 said that Diddy turned around and she's pregnant and that he mouthed to her, how are you? So he's putting on the charm. Tell us about that. At what point is that not allowed anymore?

[Renato Stabil]

He's obviously a very charismatic person. He has been a celebrity for a very long time. He knows how to ingratiate himself with people. I don't know that it's necessarily a put on. I think that's just how he is, and he's just maybe being himself. Look, he's not obviously supposed to be talking to jurors or engaging with them, but he definitely wants to build rapport. He wants them to see him as another human being who is in a tough situation. And I think it's fine to make eye contact or to smile to jurors. You can't do it too much. But remember, you also don't want to be laughing too much. And this is something that I tell clients. When you are in that courtroom and the jury walks in, it's like the curtain goes up on stage, all eyes are on you. So you have to take it very seriously. And it's okay if something funny happens in court. You know, he's human. We're all human. But I wouldn't want to see him, you know, when something not funny is going on in court, for him to be joking around with his lawyers and that I think would really do him a disservice if the jurors detect that he's not taking this seriously in any way. But if you have those light moments, I think that's fine. And I think, look, he should rely on the charisma that has served him well for many, many years.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

I think that's part of his plan, definitely.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

Again, he's a showman and performed in wide audiences before. And I mean, this is going to be the biggest audience he will ever have. So he is fighting for his life in there.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

The show of his life, for sure. But what do you think we're going to end up in this jury with? We've had, again, such a diverse potential jury pool that I've seen. We even had someone. I thought it was interesting. The prosecution seemed to be concerned with whether this potential juror spoke English, and Diddy's team was really fighting to keep them. I thought that was quite interesting. What do you think will end up here and do you think. Because, as you mentioned, I thought a lot of people would want to do anything to get on this jury, but I also saw a lot of people clearly wanting to get out. There was a lawyer who should have known he's not allowed to be looking at the news after court. And he said, yeah, I looked on the train and the judge was like, well, we told you not to do that. And then he's like, well, I looked. I looked at who you dismissed. So that seemed a bit on purpose. But what do you think is going to happen with this pool of jurors?

[Renato Stabil]

I think the biggest factor is really the 10 weeks that. That's the thing that people are saying, I would like to be on this jury. I think it would be interesting to be on this jury, but for two weeks, not for 10 weeks. So I think that's why you're seeing a lot of people trying to get out of it. You know, one thing that was interesting, I saw you had some footage of Mark Agnefolo walking into court this morning, and he had that huge white binder.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

Right.

[Renato Stabil]

I assume, based on my experience, that in that huge white binder is a ton of information on all of these jurors. That was probably his jury binder. And so what the defense has been doing, and probably the prosecution, too, has been researching these jurors, finding out everything they can, and over the weekend, they're even going to continue to do that. And it also gives them an opportunity to sit down with Diddy, because, listen, it's ultimately his life, and he has to be comfortable with the jury that's going to sit in judgment of him, and he should have a say in who they're going to strike on Monday.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

Who is the ideal juror for Diddy?

[Renato Stabil]

I think the ideal juror for Diddy is somebody who is going to hold the prosecution witnesses to a very high and exacting standard, who is going to be looking for discrepancies in their stories, who is going to be saying, if you didn't want to go along with these things. Why did you attend these events? Why did you continue to attend these events? Why didn't you walk out the door? I know some of the testimony is going to be that think people were drugged or things were put in their drinks, but I think also some of it will be voluntary drug use, voluntary alcohol use. And I'm looking for jurors who are going to look at these alleged victims, and they're going to say, look, I'm not buying that you were coerced into this. You were. You know, as far as I know, the people. I know there are civil suits, but the people testifying in this trial are adults, and they were adults when these things happened. So I want really exacting thinkers, people that see the world as black and white and who are going to hold them to that standard.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

Renato, one of the bombshells that came out, I guess, today in the discussion between both sides is the fact that the prosecution is unsure whether or not victim thought three will actually be testifying. And secondly, we now know also Cassie Ventura, who is victim one, will be taking up most of next week when she testifies. We're just wondering if you can comment a little bit about victim three, the fact that she's MIA and secondly, Cassie right now is very pregnant. And I was wondering if you can talk a little bit about just the optics of having Cassi Ventura, especially because.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

The defense revealed today that their strategy is going to be to paint Cassie as a violent person who is very strong and cannot be coerced. And she. It's. Exactly how is that going to look to a juror when a heavily pregnant woman is being kind of questioned this way?

[Renato Stabil]

Yeah, I saw that. And it's always difficult for a defense attorney to have to cross examine a victim of sexual assault. You know, you don't want to bully that person. You don't want to bully any witness. So I think they have to go very gently with her. And I think the pregnancy, the timing of it is, I guess, for the defense, from their perspective, unfortunate. And the last thing the defense wants to do, I think, is really make her cry on the witness stand or look like they're really bullying her. But to your point, if they're going to say that she's this tough person and that she was physically abusive or did things to. To Diddy, and I think that's going to provide some of the context, from the defense perspective of what. Of what was going on in that video in the hotel. Now, you know, does It. Excuse it? Of course not. Does it explain it? Well, maybe. And so they're going to have to get into all of that, but it does change the calculus and it does change the tone you take with her being as visibly pregnant as she is. In terms of victim number three, it is very unusual for a key government witness to go MIA on the eve of trial. I can't even begin to speculate on what is going on there. What is even stranger is the reports we're getting that the prosecution team is having difficulty getting in touch with Victim three's lawyer. That is also extremely unusual. I cannot imagine what is going on. But look, I don't think it sinks the government's case. They have several other victims that they're going to put on, including one who is, you know, not one of the actual allegations in the indictment. So they have plenty of evidence. And I don't know that not having victim three there makes such a difference. And look, this happens all the time in trials. The prosecution often reevaluates their case in the middle of trial, and witnesses that they thought they were going to call, they just don't call them. They're under no obligation to call any particular witness. They just have to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

Well, thank you so much for breaking all that down. I know there is just a lot to digest in the week of just jury selection. So you can imagine what the next. What eight to 10 weeks will be like in the actual beginning of this trial.

[Renato Stabil]

Yeah, next week's going to be very interesting. They're going to do the strikes early Monday morning and then go right into the openings, and we'll see our first witness.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

Well, thank you again, Renato, for taking the time out to speak to us and lending us your expertise. We would love to have you back on again as this trial progresses.

[Renato Stabil]

That'd be great. Thanks a lot for having me.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

We'll be right back after this quick break.

[Renato Stabil]

What is daddication?

[Marjorie Hernandez]

The thing that drives me every day as a dad is Dariana.

[Sarah Vine]

We call him day date for short.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

Every day he's hungry for something, whether it's attention, affection, knowledge. And there's this huge responsibility in making sure that when he's no longer under my wing that he's a good person. I want him to be able to sit back one day and go, we work together. We did a good job.

[Renato Stabil]

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[Marjorie Hernandez]

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[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

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[Marjorie Hernandez]

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[Renato Stabil]

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[Sarah Vine]

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[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

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[Sarah Vine]

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[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

So, Marjorie, let's break down the big players in this trial because I have a feeling a lot of these names are going to become very familiar to people over the upcoming several weeks.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

I mean, we've heard a lot of them before. Mark Agneflo, I mean, he was the defense attorney for the Nexum sex cult leader Keith Rainier.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

He really takes on these tough cases, huh?

[Marjorie Hernandez]

Yeah.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

But I wanted to talk about Mark Derrigos because there has been a lot of conversation surrounding him in court. He's not officially part of Diddy's defense. His daughter is Tanny. However, he has been in court all week and appears to be advising the team on jurors. The judge actually slammed him in a private meeting because the reason this lawyer cannot be on this defense team is that he is doing a podcast with TMZ on the trial. Tell us about this. And it's pretty outrageous that someone that's been so vocal in the media is actively advising this defense team.

[Renato Stabil]

Right.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

Like you said, he's not officially on the defense team. However, Mark, who's had so many celebrity cases throughout the years, he has been, I guess, off and on throughout the years, a legal counsel for Diddy and other.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

Oh, he's a long time ili.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

They. They have a long term relationship for years now. And so it's. It's interesting and not surprising that Tenney jumped on as one of the main defense attorneys. But one of the things I found interesting was the judge actually said, look, be careful what you're saying or how you're interacting with the legal team. And I will be listening to your podcast.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

But also, we need to mention, apparently on the podcast, this lawyer referred to the prosecution team as a pack of white women or something to that effect. And the judge also told him that statement was unacceptable. He mentioned it on the podcast and the judge was really not having that. But Garago's shot back and he continues bringing race into it. He said, well, the defendant as a black man, feels targeted and this is relevant.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

I'm sure as the weeks go by, Mark will still be, you know, on that podcast discussing the case, because that's what he does. But it'll be interesting to see how close and how more involved he will be. In the next few weeks and whether.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

He gets kicked out of court altogether.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

Perhaps there could be sanctions or anything that if he's not careful. But we shall see.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

On that topic though, Diddy added a new lawyer just this week, Nicole Westmoreland. She was previously with Brian Steele in the Young Thug trial. What else do we know about her?

[Marjorie Hernandez]

Yeah, she's a seasoned defense attorney. Again, she was in a Young Thug trial. We have heard that Diddy really wanted a black attorney on the team.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

So it wasn't a black woman, right?

[Marjorie Hernandez]

Yes. Now it wasn't surprising to see her, her name pop up. So I mean, he has a good set of star attorneys.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

She also says she's a victim of rape. So this is definitely would be someone that would look good on Diddy's team. But let's talk about the prosecution a little bit because James Comey's daughter, Maureen.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

Comey is the lead prosecution, the daughter.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

Of former FBI director James Comey, who also tried Ghislaine Maxwell.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

She's very excited. Experienced prosecutor, handles the big cases, sexual assault cases and having to do with human trafficking. So the fact that her name is in there and she's known as a very tough prosecutor and the rest of the team also very all decorated and it is all women and all women.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

Is that by design? What do we think?

[Marjorie Hernandez]

I don't know. I don't know if that was just a luck of the draw, but it does just in the optics it does really, I guess I think puts a very strong impression that these are female attorneys and this is an important case that involves women victims mostly.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

Finally, Judge Aaron Subramanian. I've been writing his name all week but hadn't had to say it out loud. He is a judge appointed by Joe Biden. What do we know about him? I saw a picture. TMZ had a picture of him walking into court where he looked like a student. He is of South Asian descent, I believe, and he seems pretty measured so far.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

He is very, very tough and he really likes to keep control of the timing and really has warned both sides. Look, we have to get it together. You guys put your motions together and we're going to get this trial going. So he's a no nonsense type of judge.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

Yeah. Well, let's move on to what we can expect on Monday because things are going to move really, really quickly. We discussed that Victim three is nowhere to be found. The prosecution said they will update the judge on Monday on does sound unlikely that Victim three will be there. However, we now know there's Victim five. Renato actually mentioned it briefly. It appears to be someone who has claims against Diddy that are not in the indictment. So I guess the prosecution is just trying to show a pattern of behavior with Victim five. But Marjorie, Cassie is the star of the prosecution here. And as you mentioned, she's a expected to be on the stand most of the week, heavily pregnant. Today her lawyer was in court and actually asked that the court please take breaks every 90 minutes because his client will need to take breaks as she discusses what she has described as horrific abuse. So that'll be quite something to watch.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

And again, I think we mentioned it before that now viral video of Cassie essentially getting attacked by diddy back in 2016 in a Los Angeles hotel. So it will be interesting to see Cassie there watching the video and being next to the man who allegedly harmed her for so many years in their relationship, just, you know, being in that courtroom and seeing her react, I'm sure they haven't seen each other for years. So her actually facing him, a pregnant, Cassie facing him, that would be a very explosive dynamic and we'll see how that pans out in court.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

Absolutely. And we have to remember, if it wasn't for Cassie's lawsuit, would we be here right now?

[Marjorie Hernandez]

Right.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

So. And I think that won't be lost on Diddy. So even his demeanor, will it stay as happily, as happy and smiley as he's been so far? That's something we'll be watching for next week.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

And something else that was interesting, I'll be sure, was actually on Fox 5 New York this morning promoting his book, do you believe me now, which came.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

Up in jury selection. They were at the because the Simon and Schuster executive was dismissed because she knows she's part of the team that is working on that book.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

So it was really, I don't know if it was timing, divine intervention, but LB did speak about his book, and in so many words, he said he believes that Diddy allegedly had something to do with his own illness. So let's take a listen.

[Renato Stabil]

Many, many years ago, I posted some information that was, you know, basically trying to save my life. And thank goodness to my ex, the wonderful Kim Porter, the late Kim Porter, who, you know, kind of warned me all along the way to, you know, just kind of watch him back, so on and so forth. And I didn't understand why, because of. Did he basically.

[Sarah Vine]

Do you believe that she died of pneumonia?

[Renato Stabil]

Absolutely not.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

Well, we'll also be waiting to see if Al B. Sure comes up in this trial.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

Alby was the ex of Kim Porter, who Kim Porter also had a relationship with Diddy years and years.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

They share a son, right? Al Shore and Kim Porter. But the son was raised by Diddy, Correct? And continues to standby Diddy.

[Marjorie Hernandez]

Yes. Quincy pretty much sees Diddy as his adopted dad.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

So that's something to look forward to next week. Because I was thinking that we haven't seen Diddy's kids or his mom publicly support him in court or social media since November. From what I could see, they were not in court this week. Will they show up next week to support him?

[Marjorie Hernandez]

I think so. I think they obviously are standing by him and they've had before they have been missing for a few weeks. They have always been there as a united front. So I'm sure they will all be there.

[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

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[Marjorie Hernandez]

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[Hermania Rodriguez Poleo]

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[Marjorie Hernandez]

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[Renato Stabil]

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[Renato Stabil]

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