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Kayla Brantley
Welcome to the trial of Diddy. I'm Kayla Brantley, and I'm outside of the Manhattan courtroom where we just got the verdict in the Sean Diddy Combs case. We'll be back in a second.
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Daniel Bates
The biggest secret in the entertainment industry, that really wasn't a secret at all.
Marjorie Hernandez
At the height of his career, Sean Diddy Combs had it all.
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Everything Diddy touched turned to gold. Now he faces multiple federal charges in New York, including sex trafficking and allegedly running a criminal enterprise.
Kayla Brantley
Another woman has now come forward alleging Combs of sexual assault. Music mogul and rapper Sean Diddy Combs.
Marjorie Hernandez
She claims she was drugged and sexually assaulted by Combs. Oh, this guy is dangerous.
Kayla Brantley
From freak offs to the mysterious list, the shocking case that has gripped the world is finally here. And we'll be bringing you every detail as it happens.
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Welcome to the trial of Diddy.
Kayla Brantley
Hey, I'm Kayla Brantley. I'm here outside of the Manhattan courthouse where Diddy has just been found guilty of transportation of prostitution and not guilty of racketeering. That was the big RICO charge. And not guilty of sex trafficking. Now we have here today Marjorie Hernandez and Daniel Bates, who have been on the story since day one after seven weeks of testimony. Guys, what do you make of this verdict?
Marjorie Hernandez
I actually was not surprised at the verdict. I thought the transportation for trafficking was a slam dunk. However, because of the various text messages between the victims. With Diddy, I think jury might have had a hard time to decipher whether or not they were actually forced into the alleged sex trafficking.
Daniel Bates
I was a little surprised by the verdict. I mean, I thought that the sex trafficking allegations for Cassie Ventura were pretty strong. I agree that the racketeering was complicated, and I'm not surprised they didn't Find it on that. I always thought it was a bit of a strange fit for a case like this, but I was, I was surprised on the sex trafficking for Cassie Ventura because there was so much violence in their relationship. And I thought that was, made it a pretty compelling story.
Marjorie Hernandez
I agree that obviously what happened and what we saw with the video of Cassie was very shocking. But I heard this all throughout the trial. You know, this is not a domestic violence space. And a lot of folks, their reaction was, you know, why are they focusing so much on that aspect? Obviously Cassie's testimony was very powerful, very emotional. This must be such a blow to her.
Kayla Brantley
Yesterday the jury sent the judge a note saying that they were deadlocked on count one, and count one was the rico, the racketeering conspiracy charge, but that they had come to a decision in all of the other four charges. So what I made of that was that they kind of had thought he was guilty because they had come to a decision so fast. And if you think about it, you can't have a RICO charge without the other previous charges. So that really struck me. But I do agree with your sentiment, you know, that Diddy's team did bring a pretty good case and they, they proved their point enough to get off on the two big ones. But now can you guys talk a little bit about what comes next? Obviously, he's no longer going to be getting 25 to life, which is what the RICO charge carried. But this transportation of prostitution does carry a maximum of, of 10 years. What do you guys think is going to happen next?
Daniel Bates
Well, he doesn't have a criminal record. I mean, he's, you know, so this is like a first time offense. He's a first time offender. I mean, I think technically he's facing 20 years, but that seems unlikely to me. I mean, I, I'd be very surprised if he gets that. I think he's probably looking at like less than a decade in prison, which, when you look at what he was facing, which was a minimum 15 for sex trafficking and up to life for Rico. I mean, it's an extraordinary victory for him.
Kayla Brantley
So, Dan, it's 20 years because he was found guilty of two charges of transportation of prostitution, which means it carries 10 years each, right?
Daniel Bates
I mean, in theory, that's right. They're up to 10 years each. Sex trafficking would have been 15 years to life in prison and racketeering would have been up to life in prison. So he's dodged the toughest counts and he's short of an acquittal. This was the best Outcome for him.
Marjorie Hernandez
The judge could also run it concurrently, right, Dan?
Daniel Bates
That's right. So he could get four years for each, but concurrently, you know, and don't forget, he's been in jail for several months now, so, you know, he could be out in three years. I mean, if it was, if it was a four year sentence.
Kayla Brantley
Is Diddy going to walk out today until sentencing or is he going to be held?
Daniel Bates
I think they're sorting that out right now. Diddy's lawyers are asking for him to be freed on bail. The prosecutors are saying that he should be reminded in custody until the sentencing. And the judge is basically going to reconvene at one o' clock after the prosecutor submit a letter saying why he should be denied bail. So he could walk out a free man or he could be denied bail into the sentencing. We're going to find out in about two hours.
Kayla Brantley
Guys, obviously this is a big legal win for Diddy. Do we think that he can come back after this? Can he have a career? Can he have a life? You know, he's not going to serve jail time for the rest of his life. What's next for him?
Marjorie Hernandez
I think it'll be a long time until niece gets back in terms of where he was before, obviously. But knowing Diddy, he would want to be out there again in the public eye and talk about his story. We actually saw cameras calling his family throughout the trial, so I wouldn't be surprised if there's some sort of documentary that comes out on this. I get the impression that he wanted to tell a story or his side of the story and obviously he didn't testify. So I wouldn't be shocked to see if he comes out at some point.
Kayla Brantley
Do you think he's going to speak during sentencing?
Marjorie Hernandez
He has the opportunity to do so, so I believe so. And also during the sentencing, family members can turn in letters of support, pretty much saying, asking the judge, please be lenient on him and make an argument. They can also say, look upside of this. He's, he's been part of the community, has given out to the community. So I'm sure his family would be pleading for his life.
Kayla Brantley
Okay, so we know that what's next is sentencing and we've seen, you know, all of us, we've been there in court, we know what the judge is like. Judge Arne Subramanian. Do we think that he's going to be pretty lenient on Diddy and, you know, maybe give him just a couple years, maybe give him time served or do we think that he is going to give him, you know, the maximum 20 years. What are your thoughts? Knowing Judge Aren't Subramanian?
Daniel Bates
I don't think you're going to get 20 years from, from the judge. The judge has been remarkably even tempered and professional the way he's handled this trial. He's been fair to both sides and he's, you know, he's, he's been, he's, he's handled this, this, this trial very, very well indeed. And I think he's gonna, he's gonna follow the law and he's gonna give an appropriate and reasonable sentence. And, and that's why I don't think you're gonna see 20 years for Diddy. I just don't see it happening. I think you're probably looking at south of south of a decade. This is not a hang em high, you know, sort of kind of judge. This is someone who's been very fair, very, very professional, handled the trial brilliantly. So I think you're going to see a far lower sentence than 20 years.
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Kayla Brantley
And I do want to let all of our listeners know I'm outside of the courthouse right now and it's an absolute circus. You have, as soon as the verdict was announced, you have people yelling in support in city, people saying I told you so. You have just passerbys just, just looking to see what's going on. And Marjorie, you know, you've been here in the overflow room. Dan, you were in the courtroom the whole time. Can you just speak a little bit how different this case has been than other cases you've covered when it comes to the huge turnout for it?
Daniel Bates
Oh, it's been, it's been bonkers every day. You know, you've had YouTubers outside streaming all the time. You've had this circus, like atmosphere with, with, you know, people like, like commenting and doing stuff all the time. It's just been the, the attention's been unlike any other trial I've ever seen. Just the sheer, the sheer amount of, you know, media and people and YouTubers and everything outside, it's just been, it's just been unbelievable. And yeah, like by the end of the day, it's usually like a party outside, people cheering from, you know, Diddy's mom to get his attention, giving high fives to all the sons as they walk out. Just complete circus every day. Unbelievable.
Kayla Brantley
Okay, well, thank you so much, Marjorie. Thank you so much, Dan. You guys have been here from the beginning. It's always good to hear your insights. And even though we have a verdict this is not the end of the trial of Diddy, because we have so much more to come. Foreign.
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Podcast Title: The Trial of Diddy
Episode Title: The Verdict Is In!
Release Date: July 2, 2025
Hosts: Kayla Brantley, Germania Rodriguez & Marjorie Hernandez
Production: Daily Mail
The episode kicks off with host Kayla Brantley reporting live from outside the Manhattan courthouse where the much-anticipated verdict in Sean "Diddy" Combs' high-profile case has just been delivered.
[00:03] Kayla Brantley: "Welcome to the trial of Diddy. I'm Kayla Brantley, and I'm outside of the Manhattan courtroom where we just got the verdict in the Sean Diddy Combs case. We'll be back in a second."
As the conversation resumes post-verdict announcement, Kayla is joined by co-hosts Marjorie Hernandez and Daniel Bates to dissect the outcome.
[02:09] Kayla Brantley: "Hey, I'm Kayla Brantley. I'm here outside of the Manhattan courthouse where Diddy has just been found guilty of transportation of prostitution and not guilty of racketeering. That was the big RICO charge. And not guilty of sex trafficking."
The jury convicted Diddy on the charge of transportation of prostitution but acquitted him on the more severe allegations of racketeering conspiracy (RICO) and sex trafficking. This mixed verdict leaves Diddy facing a maximum of 10 years for the convicted charge, a significant reduction from the potential 25 years to life.
Marjorie Hernandez expressed that the guilty verdict on transportations of prostitution wasn't unexpected but highlighted the complexities surrounding the sex trafficking charges.
[02:34] Marjorie Hernandez: "I actually was not surprised at the verdict. I thought the transportation for trafficking was a slam dunk. However, because of the various text messages between the victims and Diddy, I think the jury might have had a hard time deciphering whether or not they were actually forced into the alleged sex trafficking."
Daniel Bates shared his surprise regarding the acquittal on the sex trafficking charges, especially the strong allegations from Cassie Ventura.
[02:59] Daniel Bates: "I was a little surprised by the verdict. I mean, I thought that the sex trafficking allegations for Cassie Ventura were pretty strong... I thought that was, made it a pretty compelling story."
The discussion underscores the jury's difficulty in interpreting the evidence related to coercion and force, which ultimately influenced their decision.
The conversation shifts to the implications of the verdict and what lies ahead for Diddy.
[04:45] Daniel Bates: "I think he's probably looking at like less than a decade in prison, which, when you look at what he was facing, which was a minimum 15 for sex trafficking and up to life for Rico... it's an extraordinary victory for him."
Marjorie Hernandez adds that the judge might allow Diddy to run his sentences concurrently, potentially reducing his actual time served.
[05:34] Marjorie Hernandez: "The judge could also run it concurrently, right, Dan... he could be out in three years."
Kayla further probes into whether Diddy will be released before sentencing or remain in custody.
[05:52] Daniel Bates: "Diddy's lawyers are asking for him to be freed on bail... the judge is going to reconvene at one o' clock after the prosecutor submits a letter... so he could walk out a free man or he could be denied bail into the sentencing."
The hosts contemplate Diddy's potential return to public life and career post-verdict.
[06:15] Kayla Brantley: "Guys, obviously this is a big legal win for Diddy. Do we think that he can come back after this? Can he have a career? Can he have a life?"
Marjorie Hernandez speculates on Diddy's intentions to maintain his public presence, possibly through documentaries or public statements.
[06:27] Marjorie Hernandez: "Knowing Diddy, he would want to be out there again in the public eye and talk about his story... I wouldn't be surprised if there's some sort of documentary that comes out on this."
The discussion also touches upon the supportive role of Diddy's family during the sentencing phase.
[07:05] Marjorie Hernandez: "Family members can turn in letters of support, pretty much saying, asking the judge, please be lenient on him and make an argument."
The hosts evaluate the potential leniency in sentencing, considering the judge's reputation for fairness.
[07:29] Daniel Bates: "I don't think you're going to get 20 years from the judge. The judge has been remarkably even-tempered and professional... I think you're probably looking at south of a decade."
This suggests that while Diddy will face incarceration, the duration may be significantly less than the maximum sentencing, reflecting the judge's balanced approach.
Kayla shifts focus to the palpable public interest and media frenzy surrounding the trial.
[08:33] Kayla Brantley: "I do want to let all of our listeners know I'm outside of the courthouse right now and it's an absolute circus... Marjorie, you know, you've been here in the overflow room. Dan, you were in the courtroom the whole time. Can you just speak a little bit how different this case has been than other cases you've covered when it comes to the huge turnout for it?"
Daniel Bates describes an unprecedented level of public engagement, with YouTubers streaming live and a festive yet chaotic atmosphere outside the courthouse.
[09:04] Daniel Bates: "It's been bonkers every day... people cheering from, you know, Diddy's mom to get his attention, giving high fives to all the sons as they walk out. Just complete circus every day. Unbelievable."
This highlights the trial's status as a cultural phenomenon, drawing massive crowds and media attention unlike any other case.
Kayla wraps up the episode by acknowledging that while the verdict is a pivotal moment, the trial's proceedings continue with sentencing underway.
[09:49] Kayla Brantley: "Thank you so much, Marjorie. Thank you so much, Dan. You guys have been here from the beginning. It's always good to hear your insights. And even though we have a verdict this is not the end of the trial of Diddy, because we have so much more to come."
Key Takeaways:
This episode provides an in-depth analysis of the trial's outcome, the legal ramifications for Diddy, and the broader societal impact of one of the most scrutinized cases in recent history.