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Marjorie Hernandez
Seriously popular.
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Kayla Brantley
The following episode explores a number of.
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Rachel Kennedy
Allegations regarding the artist Diddy. He denies all charges and has pled not guilty to sex trafficking, racketeering, and.
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Kayla Brantley
Transportation to engage in prostitution.
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Marjorie Hernandez
The biggest secret in the entertainment industry.
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Kayla Brantley
That really wasn't a secret at all.
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Rachel Kennedy
Has finally been revealed to the world.
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Marjorie Hernandez
At the height of his career, Sean Diddy Combs had it all. It seemed like everything Diddy touched turned to gold. Now the once untouchable hip hop mogul is fighting for his life as he faces multiple federal charges in New York, including sex trafficking and allegedly running a criminal enterprise.
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Rachel Kennedy
Music mogul and rapper Sean Diddy Combs has faced four different lawsuits in recent weeks alleging sexual assault. Combs can be seen grabbing Ventura and.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Throwing her to the ground.
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Kayla Brantley
Oh, this guy in danger.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Every woman has now come forward. A legend comes of sexual assault.
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Kayla Brantley
She was drugged and sexually assaulted by Combs.
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Marjorie Hernandez
I'm DailyMail.com journalist Marjorie Hernandez, and over the last six months, I've been investigating this incredible story and speaking to the people in the eye of the storm. Welcome to the trial of Diddy.
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Rachel Kennedy
Hey, I'm Kayla Brantley, reporter at large for the Daily Mail in Manhattan.
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Marjorie Hernandez
And I'm Marjorie Hernandez, west coast news editor for DailyMail.com in Los Angeles.
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Rachel Kennedy
And welcome to episode eight of the trial of Diddy. On this week's episode, we speak to Rachel Kennedy, who's a former Playboy model and animal activist. In 2000, Rachel lived in Japan, where she worked at a popular strip club frequented by a listers, including Diddy.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Yes, Rachel claims that it was at this tapas bar where she met Diddy and his entourage, which led her to a night with the rapper. So don't miss that.
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Rachel Kennedy
Okay, but before we get into our interview with Rachel, Marjorie, you always have the best updates on what's happening in Diddy's case since our last episode. So what's going on?
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Marjorie Hernandez
Yes. So this week, two more alleged victims filed lawsuits in New York against Diddy. One of the John does claimed that he was 10 years old when he was allegedly forced to have oral sex with him during an audition. And in 2005, this John Doe alleged that before the sexual assault happened, he was provided a soda, which he believes was laced with drugs.
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Rachel Kennedy
Marjorie, that's insane. I feel like this is probably the youngest victim, alleged victim to come forward. Right.
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Marjorie Hernandez
I think there was a nine year old also in that lawsuit from two weeks ago now. But again, like you said, this is another minor who had or. Or this individual was a minor when the alleged incident occurred. And this again. John Doe said in his lawsuit that once the drugs took effect, he claimed that Diddy pushed him down and told him to, quote, you have to do some stuff you don't want to do sometimes. That's when he also claimed that Diddy then forced his penis into his mouth.
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Rachel Kennedy
Wow.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Yeah, it gets very detailed. He goes on to say that when he lost consciousness, he later woke up, and he said his pants were undone and his anus and buttocks hurt badly. He then allegedly asked Diddy where his parents were because, again, he is. He was underage at this point in time. And Diddy allegedly said if he told anybody what. What had happened, he would hurt his parents. So, just like other alleged victims that we have spoken to, a lot of them describe being given a drink and then passing out and then waking up the next day or a few hours later not knowing exactly where they were or where they were at, but feeling physical pain.
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Rachel Kennedy
And this was in 2005. So this alleged victim kept this for almost 20 years, basically, before coming forward. And to be only 10 years old, like, you could only. You could only imagine how scared he must have been at the time.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Yeah. And also the alleged telling of his parents that if you do tell your parents that something would happen to you or your family. The other John Doe who came forward this week filed the suit again in New York, and he alleged that he was only 17 years old when he was auditioning for the TV show Making the Band back in 2008, which we all know that Diddy starred in. And for those who don't know, Making the Band was a show on MTV where he had hopeful young singers and rappers compete to be a part of that band, and they would be signed under Bad Boy and mentored by Diddy. So in this particular suit, this John Doe claimed that he had a multiple day audition. And during one of those days, he alleged that Diddy sexually assaulted him and also asked him or forced him to perform oral sex. Again, he claimed that once these assaults happened, Diddy also threatened him. And he told this John Doe that, quote, he was gonna keep an eye on him. And he also mentioned that after this incident, he was essentially blackballed from the industry for years.
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Rachel Kennedy
Wow. Yeah. And I remember watching Making the Band and you could see how tough Diddy was, but you always kind of thought while you were watching it that this is just, you know, what happens. Of course, we weren't seeing anything like sexual assault or anything like these allegations, but you did see how intimidating he was and how much he really instilled fear in the people auditioning for him and then eventually for the people who did make the band.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Yeah, it was almost like being inducted into the military or going through basic training and whatever did he wanted, he had to essentially follow.
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Rachel Kennedy
Yeah, it was like an initiation.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Right, right. But again, like you mentioned on the show, it didn't mention any of these, obviously any of these assaults going on in the background.
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Rachel Kennedy
Right.
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Marjorie Hernandez
So we shall see how this lawsuit plays out.
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Rachel Kennedy
Yeah, I mean, these are all definitely very serious allegations, especially from those who claim that they were minors at the time. And Texas based attorney Tony Busby, he's one of the attorneys who filed the suits. He said in a prior press conference that they've confirmed at least 120 victims so far. And he said that about at least 25 of them were minors at the time of the assaults. So a lot of these alleged victims share a common claim, which was that they were trying to break into the music industry or the entertainment industry and they met Diddy at auditions or, you know, trying out for him or trying to impress him, which is what the latest John does allege in these lawsuits.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Right. And they claim that did he allegedly threatened them to remain quiet like we mentioned earlier, or else again that they would be blackballed in the industry which they both claimed happened to them. As we know, Diddy is still in the Brooklyn jail and he is facing federal charges of fracturing, conspiracy, sex trafficking and transportation to engage in prostitution. But however, the indictment at this point does not mention any charges involving minors.
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Rachel Kennedy
Yeah, and of course it's also important to note that Diddy and his attorneys have always maintained the rapper's innocence. And they provided DailyMail.com with a statement that he has never sexually assaulted or trafficked anyone, whether they be, quote, man or woman, adult or minor. And as we know, Diddy will face a jury sometime in the spring of 2025. The date right now is set for 5-5-20. He remains incarcerated at Brooklyn's Metropolitan Detention center after his requests for bail were denied. So Diddy is facing a life sentence if he's convicted of all these charges. And the minimum possible term if convicted is 15 years behind bars, meaning he would be 69 going on 70 at the time of his release.
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Marjorie Hernandez
There was also report this week that Diddy had a quote, disgusting list of requirements about the weight and appearances of women who were hired to attend his freak off sessions or participate in the freak off alleged freak off sessions. And these, some of these reports have mentioned that Diddy would actually require weigh ins of These girls, and they had to be, quote, young and hot, according to sources.
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Rachel Kennedy
And another thing that we should touch on is that his family, his kids, came out with a statement that Quincy Brown, he's 33, along with his other children, they posted a joint statement on Instagram saying that the past month has devastated their family and they're completely siding with him. I'll read the statement now. They say many have judged both him and us based on accusations, conspiracy theories and false narratives that have spiraled into absurdity on social media. We stand united supporting you every step of the way. We hold onto the truth, knowing it will prevail and nothing will break the strength of our family. We miss you and love you, dad. So that right there says it all, basically. You know, they say, as in the beginning of the statement, it's to the public saying that it's devastated our family. But then they turn their attention to their dad saying they miss him, they love him, and that they say that they know the truth. What do you make of that, Marjorie?
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Marjorie Hernandez
Yeah, obviously they are putting together a united front for their father. You know, he does have minor children still. Quincy, the son of Kim Porter and singer Al B. Sure. He, again, as you mentioned, Diddy, had adopted him as well. They are now essentially the men of the house now. So they are standing up for their father as, you know, as they see fit. And actually, interestingly enough, Quincy, he's going to put out a vlog, essentially detailing some of their adventures as a family. And that actually garnered a lot of criticism online saying, look, this is not the time to be showing off your lavish lifestyle when obviously your dad is facing very serious charges. And also there is a, you know, all of these very serious allegations that he's facing not only in, in the criminal court, but also in these various lawsuits.
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Rachel Kennedy
Yeah. And you just think just on a personal level that, you know, people really idolize their parents. And especially when your parent is this huge internationally famous rap mogul who's idolized by millions or at least was. Of course, you know, I'm not surprised that they're sticking by him.
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Marjorie Hernandez
You know, he's been dropped by a lot of his business relationships, obviously, bad boys, and really has. Everything has stopped there since he's been in jail. And again, his various ventures have stopped. So they're really. Are the family's just sticking together at this point.
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Rachel Kennedy
Yeah, well, that seems to be really all he has at this point. Or is his family.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Yeah.
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Rachel Kennedy
Okay, well, let's dive into our interview with Rachel Kennedy. She's provided Us with some truly shocking details about her sexual encounter with Diddy, which allegedly occurred around the time when the rapper was in a relationship with Jennifer Lopez.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Yes. You know, I was surprised at how detailed Rachel was when she spoke about Diddy. She really does not hold back, and she talks about what happened between them behind closed doors.
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Kayla Brantley
My name is Rachel Kennedy, and I am currently living in Arizona, and I work in nonprofit.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Obviously, we're talking about Diddy.
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Kayla Brantley
Yeah.
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Marjorie Hernandez
And can you take us back to exactly how you met him and where?
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Kayla Brantley
Sure. I was living in Tokyo, Japan, and I was working at a topless nightclub. I had lived in Japan off and on for 10 years before I did that. I was a fashion model and kind of rebelled a little bit and said, I just want to have fun. So I worked at this topless club for just about two months, and I was there one night, and 25 people about walked through the door, and it was quite a scene. I wasn't sure what was going on. And then in walks Puff Daddy.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Did you actually hear that he was coming, or you. He just walked in.
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Kayla Brantley
He just walked in. People said, oh, that's Puff Daddy. And I knew the name, but I would have never been able to just know by seeing him, because I had lived in Japan for 10 years and wasn't really current on who's popular and who wasn't in. In America. But, yeah, and he walked, and it was a party. He was on the phone. He walked in on the phone, and he pretty much stayed on his cell phone the whole time he was in there. He was still socializing, but never once put his phone down. I thought that was a little bit odd because, you know, you would think that he would just want to enjoy the moment, but he had this phone in his hand the whole time. I ended up kind of befriending his. That's what he said he was. We were just partying, having a really good time at the club, spending most of the night with. And I ended up bringing him back to my apartment and in Tokyo.
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Marjorie Hernandez
That was the first night?
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Kayla Brantley
That was the first night, yes.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Okay. Where was Diddy at this point?
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Kayla Brantley
He was still in the club. I think everyone kind of left around the same time. I don't know where they went after that. I know he had a show or something like that, they were saying. But I talked to him several times throughout the evening. He was very social, except for, you know, being on the telephone. But he, you know, he would talk with everybody. He was really friendly and just having a good time.
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Marjorie Hernandez
So how did it transpire where you ended up with Diddy at one point.
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Kayla Brantley
Well, the next evening, back at the same club, they walked in again and this time it was like probably half the amount of people. He was not there. And he specifically asked for me, which I thought was kind of strange because, you know, we had spoken, but we weren't, you know, like on first name basis, I didn't think. But he asked for me as soon as he walked in. So I figured told him that he was with me or to come and ask for me. I'm not really sure how that happened. But he walked in and you know, partied for a while and then asked if I would bring some girls back to his, his, his hotel that they had had the whole top floor of the, the hotel for him and his 25 plus people. So we all left separately and I ended up bringing two girls with me. And our thoughts is that we were going to a party. And I assumed because I was with the night before that we were going to a party, you know, with everyone would probably be there because why else would he be asking specifically for me? I thought it was just kind of odd. So we got in a taxi, me and two other girls, and we went up to his apartment or to his floor, knocked on the door and there's Diddy in a bathrobe with a bottle of champagne in his hand. And I realized before we even walked through the front door that it was just him. I was like, oh, this is not a party. You know, this is not the kind of party that we were all expecting. It was just him by himself. I never expected that would just be him by himself in the room. But we went in, you know, we didn't think anything weird. You know, he was friendly enough to where we decided, okay, we'll just hang out with him. He was wearing a robe. I don't remember the color of the robe exactly, but he's very casual. I looked in the room, around the room, and it didn't seem as though like it was his actual room. Like he was just maybe using that room for parties. I'm not sure because there was no personal items. There was a TV and when we walked in, he was playing videos of some pop star and I didn't know who she was. And then one of the other girls had told me, that's JLo, that's his girlfriend. So he had us sit down and he kept playing these videos of Jennifer Lopez for us to watch. We probably watched like maybe four in a row. And the whole time he was still on the phone. And come to find out later on in that evening that he was talking to her the whole time she was on the phone the whole time that we were in the room.
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Marjorie Hernandez
What was your thinking? Was that straight?
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Kayla Brantley
It was odd. Yeah, I thought like to find out that we were watching his girl's videos. It was just, it seemed kind of a little bit creepy to me. Very disrespectful. But you know, we were already in his room and there was no party going on and we just had fun.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Did he intimate what he wanted you guys to do with him at that point while he was on the phone with her or no?
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Kayla Brantley
No, we probably were there for probably a good hour before he asked me and my friend to come back in the room with him. He said, I don't like the other girl, she can stay in the living room. I was like, oh, okay. So I had to tell her that he wasn't interested in her. He took us to the bedroom and proceeded to get naked.
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Marjorie Hernandez
What happened at that point? Did he say anything to you or instruct you to do anything?
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Kayla Brantley
Yeah, he instructed us to go down on him and we just, we both did. We had had quite a bit of champagne at that point and yeah, we just did what he said. It wasn't forceful. There's nothing forceful about it. It was just, he's like, this is what I want. And both the me and the other girl proceeded to pleasure him that way.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Did he say anything to you while this was happening?
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Kayla Brantley
No, he didn't, he just, he just said he didn't like the red headed girl. And I was like okay. And then we went to the bedroom.
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Marjorie Hernandez
At that point when that was happening, I mean were you were aware what was going on? It wasn't like you, he had forced you to do anything.
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Kayla Brantley
No he didn't. Nothing was forced. But in no way did I feel scared or forced or anything like that at that point.
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Marjorie Hernandez
How long were you guys there with him in the room in the room?
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Kayla Brantley
Probably about 20 minutes. We were in the bed with him and almost instantaneously after, you know, he was, after he was finished with us, I guess his barged in and he said that's my girl, that's the girl from last night. What's going on? And P. Diddy said oh shit. And he proceeded to start to try and like throw us out of, out of the room, like grabbing at us, trying to kick us. I would say stomp is more of an appropriate word than kick. He was trying to like stomp us out of the room, grabbing at us, trying to, you know, just to get us out any way he could. The girl was on. The other girl was on the couch, and she saw what was going on. She went out the door first while he's still shoving us and pushing us. And he was beyond angry. It was just like. It didn't fit the scene, you know? It didn't. He was just so, like, violent and so angry, and we just couldn't believe what was happening. We were in shock. We were like, what is going on here?
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Marjorie Hernandez
This is the person who you were with the night before?
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Kayla Brantley
Yes.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Were you shocked at the fact that how he handled the situation.
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Kayla Brantley
Yes, it was very aggressive, very barbaric in a way, because he was just so. It didn't have to be like that, you know, but he just lost his mind, it seemed. He was just so upset. And he wasn't upset. He was just angry. I thought that maybe that's what they did, you know, When Diddy was done with whomever he was with, he would come in and take care of business. I wasn't sure. I still won't, you know, I'll never know why he was so angry. Was it because I was with him the night before, or was it just something they did when Diddy was finished with the girls? I'm not sure, but Diddy just pretty much. He didn't do anything. He didn't say anything after that. He just was putting on his. His robe while was, you know, ushering us out of the room in a vicious, kind of violent way.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Were you shocked at the fact that he wasn't doing anything?
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Kayla Brantley
Yeah, I was hoping that that's what. Well, we. So he ended up. We got out the front door, and we were almost at the last part of the hallway, at the very end of the hallway, and we were running, and he was chasing us. He was chasing us. And I thought to myself, like, okay, we're at the very end. There's all these rooms. You know, I thought to myself, maybe I should knock on someone's door for help. Because we were. It was scary. I mean, he was swinging his arms, trying to kick us, trying to do everything. And luckily I didn't. We didn't stop and ask for help, because at the time, I didn't think, well, these are all his people in these rooms. We made it. Anyway. We made it to the elevator, went downstairs, and I called Diddy from the house phone in the lobby, and he picked up, and I said, what is going on here? Why was he trying to hurt us? Why Was he so angry and violent? It was above and beyond a reaction that didn't have to happen. And he just kept hanging up the phone on me. I think I probably called him three times, and he just kept hanging up the phone. So we were all, like, out of breath and just so happy that we had gotten away from him. But years later, knowing now what I know, I think we were more than lucky. And in no way do I compare myself to these other people that have been brutalized by him. But a lot more makes sense now that I see everything that's going on. You know, I understand that that's kind of what they do. And his people, he teaches them. They had to learn that that's okay behavior from him. You know, he's their boss. You know, all these years later, 25 years later, I get why, you know, they act that way, because that's what he teaches.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Did he actually physically harm you guys?
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Kayla Brantley
No. None of us were injured. He did lay hands on us. Yes. I was more embarrassed than anything. I felt like how stupid. I should have not. I should never went there in the first place. What was I thinking was going to happen? You know, I should, should have, could have, would have a lot of things, but it could have been so much worse, knowing now what I know. And we were. We were the lucky ones.
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Marjorie Hernandez
This is just two nights of your interaction with him, and you had thought. Yeah. You built what you thought was some rapport with that. And when you spoke, when you were with him the first night, did he ever talk about you spending time with Diddy or Diddy gonna call you?
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Kayla Brantley
No. No. That's why I was so surprised the next day that Diddy even knew who I was, you know, so they had obviously had a conversation about me. What? I don't know. But he knew to ask for me when he came into the club. The club, yeah. And he felt comfortable enough to ask me to bring girls to his. His room.
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Marjorie Hernandez
And I hate to bring this up again, but, you know, there obviously, there's been so many lawsuits against him. One of. And I have to read this is one of the actual lawsuits. This alleged victim allegedly said that Diddy had raped her. So she alleged that he had, quote, an adolescent penis, both in length and width. And I was wondering if you can.
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Kayla Brantley
I remember it very well.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Yeah, you do.
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Kayla Brantley
Yes. Oh, yeah. It wasn't impressive, if I had to describe it exactly. It was, you know, thin, skinny, and I've seen better. I've seen better. Yeah.
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Marjorie Hernandez
So he didn't.
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Kayla Brantley
It was not small, by Any means, but it wasn't impressive at all. No, but the width is, you know, pencil, like, it's very thin.
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Marjorie Hernandez
And then after you guys had your situation with him, he didn't say anything. He didn't, like, say thank. I don't know, what do you say in those situations afterwards, but thank you.
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Kayla Brantley
He was still on the bed naked when came in and, you know, got us out of the room.
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Marjorie Hernandez
What do you think about those people in Diddy's world who have, you know, yet to come forward, who might have enabled him all these years? Allegedly.
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Kayla Brantley
You know, it's shocking. And, you know, when I first wanted to tell my story, the reason I wanted to tell it, it was before he had been arrested. And, you know, all the news was just about, you know, Diddy's this monster, but he's. He is. But he also. His people are the same as him. Those 25 people that were with him, I'm sure, have all seen that before, maybe would do the same thing. And I think to myself, what if we had stopped and asked for help on that floor? He had rented out the whole top floor. What if we had knocked on the door and asked for help and it was another monster just like him that opened the door? Things could have been really bad for us. You know, that behavior seems so natural to them.
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Marjorie Hernandez
You know, like, women are disposable.
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Kayla Brantley
Women are disposable, women. Well, now that I know men as well, you know, he is the puppet master of this. And that's what these people think. It's okay because he's teaching them that this kind of behavior is acceptable. You know, that's regular. People that aren't celebrities or executives or whatever, we don't matter. Our lives don't matter. And we are just nothing to them. We're disposable. He wasn't stunned that came in and roughed us up. You know, he could have cared less, and that's acceptable to him and his people. And, you know, and seeing that video of him beating up Cassie and her trying to escape down the hotel hallway, it was very similar. I mean, nothing to what she's gone through, but it really brought back, you know, what could have happened if. If they. If he would have caught us.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Have you ever heard of anything like this before going on or.
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Kayla Brantley
I've spent, you know, many. I worked for Playboy for many years, starting in 2000 when I moved to Los Angeles, but never Playboy Mansion. Was never anything like what I'm hearing goes on at Diddy's parties.
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Marjorie Hernandez
What was that experience? Like in Playboy, I loved it.
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Kayla Brantley
It was wonderful. Maybe I was just naive, but I never saw anything that even comes close to what I've heard is going on at Diddy type of parties.
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Marjorie Hernandez
But again, hearing all the things that are coming out about Diddy stuff is just really shocking.
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Kayla Brantley
It's shocking. And, you know, the fact that the people he associates with these celebrities and a listers that they find this okay, like, what does he have that makes people follow him like this? Like I said, he's like a cult leader and these people are his, you know, disciples that he is. It's just unreal. Like, how do they think this is okay?
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Marjorie Hernandez
What do you think about the celebrities who are now not saying anything?
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Kayla Brantley
I think it says a lot. Their silence says everything. And what great friends he has. They're not even sticking up for him. Silence says everything.
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Marjorie Hernandez
When you heard he was arrested, what was your reaction?
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Kayla Brantley
I was happy. I remember thinking, I wish they would show him actually being arrested because I felt that for all the victims, seeing him in handcuffs would be some sort of maybe healing. And I think for most victims, that's what, you know, they needed to see is him actually being in handcuffs and being treated as the criminal that he.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Is after all these years.
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Kayla Brantley
After all these years, yeah.
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Marjorie Hernandez
It's also, you brought up a good point earlier that obviously we talked about Cassie's video, but really you were kind of in the same situation, obviously different. And you were. It was consensual what happened with you, but being chased out.
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Kayla Brantley
Yeah.
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Marjorie Hernandez
I mean, did that also bring back, I don't know, some really tough emotions for you seeing that?
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Kayla Brantley
Yeah, absolutely. It was almost the same, you know, just put different people. But we were both, you know, trying to escape a madman.
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Marjorie Hernandez
If he was in front of you, what would you say to Diddy or even.
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Kayla Brantley
God, I don't think there's any words to really. What could you say to a narcissist like that? You know, he is. He doesn't think what he's doing is wrong. They don't think what they're doing is wrong. This is what they do. It's not abnormal. You know, it was just so easy for them to just, you know, beat up on girls and that night will try to beat us up. That I don't think you can even convince him that he's done anything wrong. Even after being arrested. I'm sure in his mind he thinks that it's okay. You know, it's shocking, but people like that don't think that they're doing anything wrong. They truly believe their madness. Whoever's around him knows what's going on, so they're just as guilty. Not only does he participate in these actions, but he knows. And knowing is just as bad as participating and doing the act. I mean, how can you just be okay with any of this? But that's why I think he's very much the master of puppets. Whatever he does, people will follow.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Yeah.
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Kayla Brantley
And scary to have someone with that much power do bad things.
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Marjorie Hernandez
You think that's why it took so long for a lot of people to come? I mean, once Cassie came out with her allegations, the floodgates.
- [30:47]
Kayla Brantley
Yeah.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Came. And everybody.
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Kayla Brantley
She's a. She's a hero. They need really to make a statue of her somewhere like she. It. That's what it takes. Maybe just one person. You know, I never told anybody about my experience because you're embarrassed and you feel stupid for, you know, going to the room or going to the party or not remembering. Like some of these people not knowing what actually really happened. And to make an accusation like that without really knowing for sure, without remembering, you know, most people aren't going to do that.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Yeah.
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Kayla Brantley
Yeah.
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Marjorie Hernandez
For you, you've also been a victim before. For anybody who's been victimized, what would you say to them if they're struggling with coming forward?
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Kayla Brantley
Be brave. You know, I didn't come forward with my story because I felt that I'd been really victimized in any way. Nothing compared to these other men and women and boys and girls. But be brave. You know, Cassie coming out has brought all these other people forward. She's a hero. I know she probably doesn't think so. And her memories and the pain and everything she went through is really unimaginable until you see it on that video. Those are things that monsters do that devils do that I can think of as to call him a monster. But he's not alone in this. And that's why it's told my story, because I wanted people to know that his people are. If they're not physically, you know, if they're not physically participating in this, they're participating by just knowing and not coming forward and not, you know, and being around it, they're just as guilty. I didn't feel that my story was significant enough to even talk about. But when the narrative was that, you know, it was all about Puffy or Diddy, you know, And I wanted to let people know that it's not. He's not the only one. So that's why I told my story in the first place because I wanted people to understand that this is a network. This is how he teaches his people how to act and behave. Because it just. It's. You know, it's something that I don't think we've ever heard of. It's been kept secret for so long, it is unbelievable. It's so hard to believe that people can be so. So horrible and so creepy. And, you know, all these very prominent people worship him and do it. Why drug people when you could probably get it anytime you want it, you know, you don't. But I think that's the fun part of it and the sick, twisted part of it for these people. It's forcing people to do what they don't want to do. How do you find joy in that? I don't. I don't know, but they do.
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Rachel Kennedy
Wow, Marjorie, that was quite the interview. I mean, she said some very shocking things and really detailed, horrific things. What was it like interviewing her?
- [33:57]
Marjorie Hernandez
Just speaking to Rachel, you can tell that she's still very affected by the whole experience. She does mention what transpired between her and Diddy and her mutual. Her friend when they had oral sex was consensual. So unlike the other victims who said that they were raped or forced and allegedly forced or raped, again, Rachel says that it was consensual. However, the thing that really stood out to me was her just talking about how when she saw the cast, Cassie's video, the video of Cassie being attacked by Diddy, and how she. She watched Cassie running for her life, trying to get out, trying to get into that elevator. Rachel, you can see the emotion well up in her that she said it brought. It brought her. Watching that video brought her back to that fear that he tried to get away out of that hotel floor, which Diddy allegedly had rented for all of his entourage. So even, you know, two decades later, this woman is still very much traumatized by that whole experience. And again, she alleges that it was not Diddy who threatened her. But again, another thing that really stood out was the fact that these things seem normal to. Would be a normal occurrence to the woman that he might bring up, that after he's finished with them, they would be tossed out and forced out, essentially threatened to leave.
- [35:46]
Rachel Kennedy
Yeah. And we've spoken in the past a lot about why these victims or these alleged victims now feel empowered to come forward and speak. Speak out. Did you get any idea of why Rachel has decided to speak out now?
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Marjorie Hernandez
Yeah, I think, again, when she saw Cassie's video, that really brought her back to her own experience. But also she wants to hold the other people around Diddy accountable again, even though she wasn't physically harmed by Diddy. Diddy, the fact that he had other people around him who to to in her statement did her his dirty work, allegedly. And how they've gotten away with it for years.
- [36:33]
Rachel Kennedy
I mean, yeah, there's no way that with all these allegations that it was a one person thing like he, there was no way he acted alone. Of course he had enablers and that's just bound to come out at this point, especially being, you know, somebody of the caliber that he is, you know, so high status, so much money, you have a team working for you. And I'm sure throughout the trial these people will get subpoenaed and they're already mentioned in some of these lawsuits. So it's only a matter of time.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Yeah, well, it will be a very interesting witness list full of a list celebrities possibly, but also again, those who were the closest in Diddy's circle.
- [37:20]
Rachel Kennedy
Well, that's all the time we have for now. Thank you again to Rachel Kennedy for joining us on the show. And next week we're lining up an incredible guest who for various reasons we probably shouldn't talk about just yet, but we are on it.
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Marjorie Hernandez
Until then, thank you, Azevor, for listening. Please share your thoughts on the trial of Diddy on Apple or Spotify and follow us on TikTok@DailyMailCrime. We're live every Friday and we'll be back next week. Goodbye.