In this special episode Caroline and Liz get behind the trial of Jamie Varley and John McGowan-Fazakerley. We’ve got an insight into the police investigation and the questions which now need to be asked and answered. We also gain an insight into the mind of a man like Jamie Varley from expert Criminologist and former Prison Governor, Professor David Wilson. And we have the emotional words of Preston’s birth mum, Sarah, who says her son was failed by the very people trusted to take care of him.

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Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull

Producer: Chelsey Moore

Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

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