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Gambling and the NCAA, Ohio State Buckeye Julian Sayin Joins, and the Ingrams Go to Pittsburgh
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Gambling and the NCAA, Ohio State Buckeye Julian Sayin Joins, and the Ingrams Go to Pittsburgh
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A
You've already been in the Pacific, right, since you got home, Julian? Oh, yeah.
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B
That's like first day. Got to get back in. It's good for the soul.
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A
Did you get on the surfboard, too?
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B
I didn't. I didn't. The waves haven't been great so far, but they should be picking up maybe this week, next week.
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A
Coach has no idea what you're talking about.
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C
Yeah, I know what he's talking about. If I was. I said get your ass out of the water, Julian. You're not allowed to do that.
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D
Why you hating on my boy, man? Summer vacation, lady.
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A
The triple option is presented by Wendy's. Wendy's invented the spicy chicken sandwich and now we're reinventing it, making it crispier than ever before. Wendy's Spicy Chicken. We're so back. Welcome into the triple option. Urban Meyer, Mark Ingram ii, Rob Stone here with you. A gambling scandal may have ended Texas Tech's new quarterback's career before it really even started in Lubbock. Ohio State QB 2025. Heisman finalist Julian Saian joins the show. Plus, we're gonna go behind the scenes of of the NFL draft with Deuce Deuce and his son. I cannot wait for that, Mark. It was such an awesome moment in Pittsburgh. But first, where's coach? Let's play. Where is coach right now? Let me guess. It's around golf and around veterans.
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C
Yeah, I'm at beautiful Liberty national. The hole number 14. Your tee shot, Mark. You're hitting a 140, 145 shot right as Statue of Liberty. Incredible spot. I'll get to here some point. And then the Veterans Golf association, they're having their. It's called the Liberty Cup Ryder cup format with the top golfers from Air Force, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines at Coast Guard. So incredible event.
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A
Mark Ingram, what's the over under on days Coach plays golf per week or throughout the year? Man, I don't know. Throughout the year is a big number, like scary number.
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D
Over 150 rounds.
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C
I think I'm well over 150. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I just should be better than I am. Damn, Mark, that's a humbling game.
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D
It is, man.
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C
We had about a 25 mile an hour wind. I played Trump Bedminster two days ago. What a spot. And then I met Calusa Friday.
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A
And the three of us are on a golf course next week in Florida
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C
as well at the concession club. Yeah. Yeah. That's great job.
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A
All right, time to talk college football. 114 days until the season kicks off on any Given Saturday. So Texas Tech, they went to the transfer portal, got one of the top names to be their number one quarterback. Brendan Sbe transferring from Cincinnati down to Lubbock, Texas. But it was recently revealed SBE is believed to have placed thousands guys thousands of online bets on a variety of sports via gambling app that includes bets on Indiana football while he was a member of that program. Remember back in 2022, he was in Bloomington. So based on the NCAA's guidelines, which were revised back in 23, student athletes who wager on their own games or on other sports at their own school can potentially face permanent loss of collegiate eligibility. Remember, he signed a $5 million nil deal. He was receiving monthly payments since he arrived at have been paused according to sources over at On3. So, Mark and coach, this is. This is troubling. This is also the way of college football and all college athletics right now. I got a college kid, I hang out with his roommates, and I see them on their phone and it's more than just texting their buddies and where they're going to be. They are 100% just dropping quick little bets. And coach, this is. This is a big problem. Not a big problem. Let's go bigger. Big, big problem.
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C
Yeah, I got a real issue with it is, you know, as parent, we're all parents, Mark, you got, I think, 46 kids, you know, or you got five, but I got three kids, I got six grandkids. And. And as a coach, you. You treat your players like your kids. And I, I mean, what in the hell are people thinking making gambling legal for young people to stick on their phone saying, you're allowed to gamble this, but don't go here. I mean, who. I'd love to meet the politicians. And I'm at the point in my life where I don't give a. I can say what I want. What are you thinking, you dumb ass? Don't. Don't put that. What are you doing? Well, let's make this legal. Let's make drugs legal. Let's make this legal. When I talk to people, I make. I know, I know people in the FBI and they say the young people, it's 10,000% or some number that is hard to comprehend of young people under 21, under 18 years old that are addicted to gambling now, because you're right, they stare at their phone and I even ask, I say, what are you doing? And they're gambling. And here's the difference, Mark, back in the day, you asked was this a big problem. It wasn't because it was illegal and it was easy to monitor. How do you monitor that now? I guess you can, because this player's in trouble. But to throw temptation at a 19, 20 year old that now has money in his pocket, by the way, a lot of money. Yeah, it's certainly his fault. And he's going to pay a hell of a price. And so is that coach and team and a fan base at Texas Tech because he's a hell of a player. But I guess my appeal is like, what? What, what are you doing? You idiots make that stuff legal money. Do you get in trouble for saying, you idiots? I don't care. You're an idiot. If you made gambling legal for young people, that's wrong. And so this, Think about this. You just invested $5 million. Texas Tech is no longer the Texas Tech of old. They have expectations of being the playoffs. You lose that kid and the backup's got a bad knee, your chance going to playoffs is dropping.
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A
Well, number one, we want the best for Brendan Sorsby. He has checked himself into an addiction facility. And absolutely, Mark, this is an addiction because we see it, we see it everywhere. And yes, people can do it in moderation, but boy, it is. That's a slippery slope, right? When all you have to do is literally just tap something and away you go. And then that money, that money, money, money can start getting away from you fast.
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D
Man. They tell you to gamble responsibly, right? But how many people are actually doing it responsibly? People can't watch a game without putting a bet on it. People can't just sit down and watch the game for entertainment anymore. They watch the game, they're like, oh, I gotta have something on it. Oh, I gotta have somebody going over this amount of yards, this amount of carries, this amount of points. They gonna hit this free throw, right?
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A
They need that juice, right?
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D
They need that adrenaline. They need that adrenaline. They got something on it. But it's just crazy, you know, it's just easy access. Everywhere you go, you open up an app, place your bet, place your little, you know, your parlay. And you see you won a couple times. Now you addicted. Now you want to get that win again. But now you're taking Ls, but it's just way different than when I was in college or when I was in the league. Like, you knew gambling was off limits. It's something that you couldn't touch. And so it's just way different now with having so much access and how easy it is to gamble. But, you know, when I was playing like it was always gambling was. No. So it's just way different and something that I didn't have to deal with. So it's just tough, man. It's tough.
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A
It was like the old drug campaign, right? Just say no, right? And that was so simple and understandable and relatable and don't do it because I'd like to play college athletics. But let's be honest, right? Coach wagering and gambling have been around for as long as all those other vices have been around. And one of the greats in the sporting world definitely had an issue with gambling and might have reached out to you for a little. A little help, unbeknownst to you.
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D
Little inside info.
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A
Yeah, yeah.
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C
I'm a Cincinnati, Ohio guy, a Big Red Machine. I mean, that the greatest baseball time team of all time in the 70s. So I was a huge P. Rose fan and still am. We lost him several months ago, but became a friend of mine. When I got hired Ohio State, they asked me to come down and throw out the first pitch for the Reds, and I did with my son. And I walk in the clubhouse there, and there's Pete Rose. And I'm like, oh, my God, Pete Rose. And so we sat and talked for a couple hours. They exchanged phone numbers. You know, I just. I couldn't get enough talking about Big Red Machine, and he wanted to talk college football. And I'm pretty naive about the gambling thing, but I've never really gambled in my life. So I. We text each other, you know, great to see you and all that. And then during the season, my first year in 2012, every once I get a text from. Not every once in a while, but early in the season, hey, man, how's. How's the team look? And how's, you know, how's Illinois look? How's. How's Braxton's shoulder? Braxton Northern shoulder or something like that. And, you know, I text him back, yeah, you know, we're doing fine. And. And I told that to someone. They said, you're an idiot. You know, he's trying to get information from you for gambling, and you could get in trouble. I was like, whoa. And so, you know, I never gate much, but, I mean, I was like, from that point forward, how's Braxton shoulder? You know, I'd say, hey, so, you know, how the Reds doing? You know, I just kind of moved on.
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A
Not fair, man, because you want to have a conversation with a legend like Pete Rose, right? You want to nip that in the bud, right?
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C
So Pete Rose, I, I saw him out in Vegas one time. He would sign, I believe, at Mandalay Bay. And we went, sat with him for a while and I said, so what do you do? You know, now you're 70 some years old, you're the greatest baseball player of all time. He said, I get up, I go work out, I go sign autographs for six hours, then I go home and I gamble. Legally. I mean, he was just legally gambling. So gambling is an addiction and just go full circle back to the way we started. I really feel for this kid, man. I really do. It's an addiction. I've witnessed it. I've seen people ruin their lives over it. And as a parent, as a coach, you want to not have more and more temptations thrown at people. And whoever made these decisions to legalize gambling for young people, shame on you. Shame on you. It's wrong.
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A
Taking the conversation back to LCK real quick. You know, SBY was arguably the most in demand quarterback in the transfer portal, so congrats to the Red Raiders for going out, spending and getting him. Now there's a real, real chance he's never going to suit up for the Red Raiders. And what's their quarterback room look like right now? Four star Will Hammond. Remember Torres, ACL back in October. There is a quote, though. The knee is getting better at a rapid pace, which is Good news. Played eight games last year. They opened up September 5th against Abilene Christian, then on the road at Oregon State, and then big 12 ball with Houston, Sam Houston State, and then Colorado. The backup Tulsa QB transfer Kirk Francis could be waiting in the wings as well. There was talk, coach, that Hammond might be ready by the third week. Maybe they're going to accelerate that a little bit. And then for Soresby and Mark, you know about this, there's this little thing that is used once in a while called the NFL supplemental draft. And maybe that's a place that Sorsby has to go to if he's going to continue his college football playing in the near future. A lot of good people have come out of that.
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C
So let's go back to Texas Tech. Oh, I'm sorry.
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A
No, no. Remember, like Bernie Kozar, Chris Carter, Bobby Humphrey, like some real, real good names have come out of that. Go ahead, Coach. You want to go back to Lubbock?
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C
Yeah, I was just going to say that's one of our favorite places on Big noon and Coach McGuire is one of our favorite guys and we pull for them. You're not supposed to have favorites, but that's one of our favorite spots. And you just read that schedule. It's not bad. They, they, they might. I thought this might be a major hit because that quarterback could get going by then because they have really good players. They've invested a lot of money in that roster. I don't. They're going to be favored still in all those games. You just mentioned five games, I think. I think they'll be favored in all five.
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A
I would think so. I think Houston is much improved. Colorado has. Has struggled up and down. October 17th, home to Arizona State. And then guess what, the 24th Texas Tech at Cincinnati.
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C
Wow.
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A
Very, very interesting. When they close the campaign, maybe we'll be there. Tcu. Maybe we will be there. All right. Coming up next, Ohio State's Heisman contending quarterback Julian Saiyan joins us on the triple option presented by Wendy's. Back in 1995, Wendy's invented the iconic spicy chicken sandwich. Built it from scratch. They perfected the balance of heat and flavor in every bite. So, yeah, Wendy set the standard, but standards don't stand still.
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A
Welcome back to the triple option presented by Wendy's. I'm Rob Stone. Urban Meyer. Mark Ingram the second. Let's bring in the starting quarterback at the Ohio State. Julian Saiyan finished fourth in the Heisman balloting last year. He is not in Columbus. He is hanging out guys in sunny Southern California. Over there in Carlsbad, he's already been. You've already been in the Pacific, right? Since he got home, Julian? Oh, yeah.
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B
That's like first day. Got to get back in. It's good for the soul.
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D
So healing.
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A
Did you get on the surfboard too?
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B
I didn't, I didn't. The waves haven't been great so far, but they should be picking up maybe this week, next week. So just should be. Should be ready to go.
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D
You going to get out there, shred them or what?
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A
Coach has no idea what you're talking about.
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C
No, no, Yeah, I know what he's talking about. If I was the head coach, say, get your ass out of the water, Julian. You're not allowed to do that. I'm just, I'm just kidding you.
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D
Why you hating on my boy, man? Summer vacation.
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C
I love it.
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D
That boy just. Just weathered the Columbus winners and he's out here in sunny Southern Cali shredding waves. You want to hate on my dog, man?
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C
Hey, Julian, thanks for joining us. You, you go from California to a place called Tuscaloosa. We have a Crimson Tide guy on the show. And then you join the Ohio State. You have a Buckeye right here. What went under the decision to leave? I think it was after Saban. Coach Saban retired. Was that a tough transition? Was it a no brainer when you had the opportunity? Tell us. I'm telling you it was a tough
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D
transition for all of us in Tuscaloosa. It hurt, I'll tell you that.
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B
Yeah, really. So once Coach Saban retired, he was a huge reason of why I wanted to go to Alabama. And once he retired, I felt like it was just the best decision for me to enter the transit portal and I was looking at Ohio State and the quarterback pedigree that they have there, you know, what Coach Day has done and it was, I think it was just the all around best fit for me. And so I was really glad to make that decision and, you know, couldn't be happier,
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D
man. You had a huge year last season, man. Great season. Obviously, I know you guys didn't accomplish your ultimate goal, but you have everything ahead of you. You have a new offensive coordinator, Arthur Smith. What has that relationship been like, getting to know him so far?
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B
He's been great so far. You know, it's been fun. You know, it's. It's been fun. We got some new receivers, we got, you know, the new oc. It's, it's been, it's been good to kind of learn each other and, you know, just kind of learn this new system and learn how we're going to be this year. So it's been, it's been a lot of fun, connect with these guys. And then obviously having, having guys returning too. It's, it's been great. You know, the, the off the line returning, you know, having Jeremiah Brandon outside. So it's, it's good.
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A
Julian, what's been new about that system? Does it feel more, I guess, NFL esque because of Coach Smith and his background?
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B
Yeah, I think the quarterback has a lot of responsibility at the line of scrimmage in this system. And, you know, the play calls are long and you know, it's, it's, it's, it's been a lot of fun.
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A
Play calls are long. Like, give me an example.
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D
Super long.
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B
I mean, we're going, you know, we're going formation motion, you know, play. Then we're going. Can, can to this play, you know, if we get this certain look. So I think it's just, you know, it starts to build up once you start tagging these routes on everything and it starts to build up.
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A
Do you have the vocabulary? You're all caught up on it?
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B
Yeah, I'm all caught up.
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C
We're good.
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D
Run a play. So Bennett, holler a play with the can.
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B
All right, we're just going to go, you know, we're going to Duff, right? Ace 19. Juan to Can. The 18 Quatro and the double. On the double.
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D
There you go.
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A
Okay. What'd he say? Well, what is that, Coach? What's happening?
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C
Yeah, back in the day we went fast and just signals that was it. Hey, Julian, congrats on your season as a Buckeye. Proud of you, man. Proud of the team. And so Columbus, Ohio, when Zeke Elliott became Zeke Elliott when Haskins became Haskins, when, I mean, Columbus is out of control. You know, you have to have a lot of self discipline. And I'm sure I can tell you raised the right way when you were, you know, just on the team to now you're a starting quarterback. How, How'd you manage to just stay, you know, feet on the ground as opposed to. They. They want to make you God in Columbus, Ohio. It's really, you know, you gotta watch yourself.
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B
Yeah, I think, you know, we have so much support from the fan base here and, you know, there's. How much they care is awesome to see. And, you know, I was able to see it my freshman year, you know, watch Will Howard go win national championship. And so it was awesome to, you know, get that learning experience and see. See what it was like and, you know, see the, see the great things about it and also see, you know, what happens when, when you do lose a game like that. So I think it's. It was, it was great to see and, you know, I'm blessed. I have my, my sister, she's in grad school actually at Ohio State. So my mom and my sister are out there too. So it's nice to have family close.
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C
That's dope.
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A
And your brother's out there too, playing in the UFL for Columbus.
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B
Yeah. So they're in Dallas. They stay in Dallas and then they go to. They go to the game. So I've been to, I've been to two games so far. They like fly back and forth for their games, but I've been to two games and they just had another game in Columbus recently.
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D
Hey, man, we know this nil world is crazy, man. You know how you got to re. Recruit your players. We heard an off season. Jeremiah Smith mentioned there were offers from other schools to transfer. Did you experience any of that? I'm sure you did. And like, how did you. How did you handle that, man?
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B
No, I was, you know, I was. I think everybody knew I was coming back to school. I'm coming back.
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C
Yeah.
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D
But there was nobody like a Julian. We need you and we gotta have you and we want you.
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B
They weren't calling me personally, so maybe they were calling other people, but they weren't calling me personally. So, you know, everybody, everybody knew I was a Buckeye.
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C
That's what's up. Let's talk about the receiver room. What Brian Hartline did. Coach Harline actually first worked for me and then he brought in Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave and that started that run and even before that, you, Mike Thomas, Terry McLaurin, and then I think it's unprecedented the receiver room that you've, you and your previous quarterbacks have had the opportunity to throw to. I mean, at such times, is it just shocking the talent level that you have to throw to out there?
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B
Yeah, I mean, they're. We, we always have some great guys in that receiver and that's, that's, you know, something you can bet on. And you know, I think Coach Harlan obviously did a great job with those guys. I think Coach Hankton coming in is doing, is doing a great job. And, you know, it's, it's, it's a lot of fun as a quarterback to have those guys on the outside. You know, when you get one on one and you know your coaches say, hey, give him a shot. Let's give it to him.
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A
You got a new toy too. With Chris Henry Jr. In the fold, how is that relationship grown and what should the Big Ten and the nation expect from him this season?
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B
Yeah, I think he's a great player. You know, got, got a lot of potential and, you know, had a great spring this spring and it's been fun to kind of build that relationship with him and build that connection on the field.
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A
How do you build that relationship? What are some of the things that you do on the field, off the field, to, to get a tighter bond?
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B
Yeah, I think it's, you know, just getting the reps with him, whether it's seven on seven, whether it's team and then off the field, you really just got to spend time with those guys, you know, just build that connection. I think as an offense this spring, we've been, we've done a good job of spending time, you know, kind of continue that over the summer of just bonding and, you know, doing off the field team events and just, you know, going out to eat, going out to do things.
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C
Now I want to ask you a question about. We, we were there at the Big Ten championship game and the season you guys had been. You play this team called Indiana that, you know, for most of our lifetimes, they've been the worst team. You know, it's just a bad team. And then all of a sudden this new staff comes in. It's not just the staff. They're great players. As the quarterback facing that defense, what was the biggest issue? Obviously, I know great players, but was there something that caught, that caught you or as you prepared for that team, their defense, what was the biggest issue for you?
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B
Yeah, I think they were really well coached. They were really disciplined in their zone drops. They were, you know, getting to the right spots. There wasn't a lot of, you know, tons of open zones even, you know, they're bringing sim pressure so they're able to eat up the back and then, you know, really get. Get seven guys out in coverage in zones and really make it tough as. As the quarterback to, you know, find those zones,
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D
man, last. My last question for you, man, is you had a great season, man, individually, and you have a new oc. When you self evaluate yourself, what are some things that you think you need to improve on to get you to the next level and the team to the next level?
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B
Yeah, I think, you know, there was a ton of things this offseason that I was looking at to get. To get better at, you know, whether it's, you know, having cleaner feet in the pocket, having a little bit better pocket presence, and then, you know, when to extend plays and, you know, take off in, you know, third down and, you know, nothing's open. We got to go pick it up with our legs and get the first down.
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C
My last question, Julian, just a rivalry game. Congrats on. Get back on track in that game to go up at the Ann Arbor and to get ready. Did you feel, you know, I'm not sure. You played in the Iron Bowl. You probably. Were you there for the Iron Bowl?
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B
I was only out there for a couple months. Yeah.
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C
Okay, so you're getting ready for that game and obviously the pressure is immense. Did you feel it leading into it and then walking down that damn tunnel in Ann Arbor, did you feel it before you took the field?
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B
You know, I. I think we had a. The team had had a kind of a great mindset going into it. You know, we weren't really feeling a ton of pressure. We know how much it means to, you know, the state of Ohio and to our fan base, but, you know, walking in that stadium, it was just. It was a ton of fun. And we had, you know, a bunch of juice and, you know, obviously off the bat, had through the interception, and then after that, I felt like we were just, you know, in control.
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A
Let's get to the red meat here. As we conclude this conversation, your schedule, from the outside, it looks brutal at Texas, week two, on the road, at usc, at Iowa, at Indiana, home with Oregon, home with Michigan. How is the schedule being talked about in the locker room and how is it being managed, you know, right now in the summer, leading into the fall?
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B
Yeah, I think, you know, a lot of the guys are excited. It's Exciting, you know, playing, playing those big games, you know, going down to Austin in week two, going out to usc, you know, playing Oregon at home, playing up north at home. It's, it's going to be, it's going to be a lot of fun and I think, you know, a lot of the guys are excited and, you know, just making us prepare this summer and, you know, keeping, keeping that chip on our shoulder this summer, making us grind because, you know, we have a big season ahead of us.
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A
How has Coach Day approached that schedule with you guys?
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B
Yeah, he's been talking about how we're going to, you know, have a, have a great schedule and then it's going to make us better for the, when we, when we get in the playoffs.
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A
All right, so you're a Southern Cal guy. You're on summer break, right? Like, how long is your summer break when you're the starting quarterback at Ohio State?
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B
Yeah, you get about two and a half, three weeks. Three weeks out here and then you're back to it and in summer workouts and, and, you know, summer workouts, throwing with the guys and all that.
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A
All right, so what do you need to accomplish in that two and a half, three weeks? Yeah, I say this with a smile on my face. What are some things that you need to do to be a kid again?
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D
Right?
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B
You definitely have to, you know, reset. You know, we play it, we play a kind of a year round sport, so you got, don't have to reset and you know, kind of chill and hang out with, with some friends and family and then also know, you know, when it's time to work and when it's time to, you know, improve on those things that you, that you thought about all summer and all spring.
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C
You know, I was with Coach Mick when he was younger. He was much tougher than he is now. Is he getting a little soft in his old age?
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B
No, no, I don't think so at all. I don't think so at all. He's, he's pretty hard, especially the quarterbacks.
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C
I know he should be.
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A
Julian, we appreciate, thanks for joining us, man. Yeah, man, we appreciate the time. Try to enjoy that summer.
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D
Right?
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A
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C
Mark.
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A
RK0 proof delivers the taste, aroma, and even the burn of real spirits without the alcohol, without the sugar, without the carbs. Our very own Deuce Deuce. This was one of my greatest moments at. At the gym while I'm working out on the treadmill. He announced the Baltimore Ravens. It was your second round pick, right?
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D
Second and third.
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A
Yep, second and third. But the second round pick in the Steel City. You know how Baltimore and Pittsburgh feel about each other. But it was Mark Ingram the third, that stole the show in enemy territory. Roll it.
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F
This the hospitality y' all got for your boy?
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C
Oh, boy.
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F
This the hospitality I got for your boy. Yeah, don't worry, don't worry.
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C
Yes, it is.
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F
On behalf of me, my son, these wonderful young ladies and all the flock nation, we got a special message for y'. All. Pittsburgh Steelers still suck.
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C
No, boy.
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F
And we bout that. You got a problem with that, come see me. Big trust Flock nation in the flesh.
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C
Oh, boy.
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F
Yes, sir.
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B
Did anybody.
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A
Did anybody come see you, Mark?
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D
No, man. I was walking through the streets of Pittsburgh that later that night. Ain't nobody pressed me or nothing, man. They showed love. So I appreciate, I appreciate Pittsburgh, man. Cause they, they, they, they understood. They understood, you know what I mean? But the whole thing about it was, you know, Baltimore asked me to do this pick for them. They're like, it's in Pittsburgh. I'm like, you guys are asking me to do the Ravens pick in Pittsburgh. Like that's a heavy lift there, right?
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A
You know, it's like enemy territory for sure.
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C
Yep.
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D
And then so my son, he didn't have any, like, baseball or anything. I'm like, I'm gonna take him with me, right? And so we go up there and I'm like, hey, man, you know, the Ravens and the Steelers do not like each other. And so I'm like, we go out there, they're probably going to boo us. I was like, if they boo us, we got to be able to pop our stuff back to them. All right? So I watched the Ravens had posted hello to Inada announcing a Ravens pick with his three sons one time. And he was like, all my sons were born in Baltimore. And they were all raised to say one thing. And they all went to the mic, they said, the Steelers suck. And so I'm like, okay, I got that little. My wheels got to spin. And I'm like, all right, well, Mark, if we go up there and they're booing, they're tripping, I'm going to go and I'm going to say, we got a message for you guys. Pittsburgh. I mean, we got a message for you guys. Steelers. And he's going to say, steelers still suck. So hello to Nada and his sons. We got that kind of. We got the vibes from them. We had to go to Pittsburgh and hold it down for the flock nation, and my son loved it. We walking through the airport, going home. People are stopping him. Steelers fans are stopping him. Like, hey, Lil. Dude, you did such a good job. You did such a good job. Why'd you say that about the Steelers? All this stuff. They're showing him love. And he's like, we're walking to the gate. He's like, daddy, me famous. I'm like, you ain't damn famous, man. But, man, what a special opportunity, man. I appreciate the Ravens for having me and my son requesting us to go up there and. And do the pick for them in Pittsburgh. I appreciate the NFL showing the love, allowing me to bring my son on the stage. And I also appreciate Pittsburgh because they helped me create a core memory for my son. You know what I mean? He'll always remember that. We'll always be able to see that. And I've been saying jokes ever since. I'm like, watch the Steelers end up drafting him. When he's like, watch the Steelers end up drafting.
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A
He's a basketball player and roll that clip back, right?
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D
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's gonna be like, my dad made me do that. I was eight years old.
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C
How about the NFL and. And Goodell and that whole marketing? I mean, they should write every book possible. They made the NFL draft what it is. Listen, it used to be. But it used to be, you know, they draft New York. I think it was New York. Now you're getting Pittsburgh. You're seeing people hundreds thousand deep.
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D
386, 000 people on the first.
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C
You can't see the stage, Mark.
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D
Yeah.
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B
Yep.
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D
300, 386,000. The first night, the second day, the second and third round picks, it was over 280,000 people. Being the model, the example of what to be, of how to market, how to, you know, come to your city and transform a whole city. The NFL is that, man. There's nothing like the NFL there to go.
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A
All right, so let's throw a hypothetical out here. Let's say there was a college football draft and Ohio State is up. Urban Meyer is out to do the pick and the draft is being held in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
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C
I'd take it. I'd bring my kid up like Mark did and say the Wolverine still suck.
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A
I can't.
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C
You know I can't. Can I still say that with Kyle Whittingham there?
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D
You can, yeah, you can.
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A
Yeah, we, we all love Kyle. But yeah, you have to say that, Coach. I think contractually obligated to say that. Perfect way to end it. That does it for the triple option member. Follow subscribe rate us on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast as well as across social media 3x option show. Thanks as always to our great sponsors Wendy's and RK0 proof. Coach, you're on the clock. I can't wait for your pick.