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Rob Stone
We're going to start where? Team Big Noon. Kickoff will be in Ames, Iowa at Iowa State, battling for the Cy Hawk Trophy.
Mark Ingram
Yes.
Chris Donnan
Donner, why are you doing all my stuff? The Cyhawk trophy. I was giving them.
Mike Norvell
Sorry.
Chris Donnan
You know what I mean. You just. Just a. A1 host. No, can we talk about.
Rob Stone
Wait, can we talk about the Cyhawk Trophy?
Chris Donnan
Let's talk about the Cyhawk Trophy.
Rob Stone
Let's rename that. It's such an insane name. None of it makes sense. The Triple option is brought to you by Wendy's. Wake up with Wendy's. Two for $3 breakfast.
Chris Donnan
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Rob Stone
Welcome to the Triple option. He is Mark Ingram. There's coach Urban Meyer. I'm Rob Stone. This week, guys, not one, two guests, two really good guests. Mike Norvell, Florida State, Matt Campbell and Iowa State ahead of their big showdown with Iowa. Yes. We're going to talk Arch Manning. Saturday, we're going to talk the Buckeye defense, Bryce Underwood and other key one performers. A lot to get to here as we get ready for week two and close down week one in college football. Thanks for joining us. We encourage you every week to what Mark, Rate, subscribe, share, Mama Nil. All that other stuff you can get us at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast, as well as across social media. We can be found at 3X option. Show new episodes every Wednesday on YouTube and wherever it is you find your podcast. All right, time now for any given Saturday. Week one gave us what makes college football so great. An unranked Florida State side triggering the fans rushing the field as they took down then number eight, Alabama. To break it all down, we go to Tallahassee. We bring in the head coach of Florida State, Mike Norwell. Mike, congratulations. But I know coach wants to start with anything but football right now, apparently. Is that right, Coach?
Mark Ingram
Yeah. Congrats, Ma. I know you're busy and thanks for taking a minute. So you beat Bama. You got Miami on October 4th. You got Clemson on 11, 8. But we all know this is much more important. We have to defend our Peach Bow Coaches Challenge golf tournament. Do you have a big trophy? I don't see the trophy.
Mike Norvell
No.
Mark Ingram
World, the world needs to know that we are defending back to back champs.
Mike Norvell
You almost left. You almost left. Back to back.
Mark Ingram
We are back to back, coach.
Chris Donnan
They allow you to cheat over there too, Coach?
Mark Ingram
No, Mike was my ace, man. He was off the tee. And Mike doesn't play. He's a coach. He's not playing like I play. And then I held. I carried him the first year he carried the, he carried the load. This year, man, hey, let's get going here. I know you got to go 13 and 1 in 20, 23, 20, 24, 2 and 10. A great win. You had a little bit of clean house. And I want to ask you about that because as a coach, you're always been there. You've been there. Tony White, who I love as a D coordinator, came from Nebraska. And Gus Malzon, I've known him forever. I think he's one of the best offensive coaches out there. Especially that run game. Was it a clean house or was it just tidy things up a little bit?
Mike Norvell
Well, I mean, obviously we had to get back to the standard of Florida State. And I say that, you know, I've been, been a part of great staffs here. You know, we've had some, some tremendous success, you know, in our time here. And, you know, unfortunately, we had a very disappointing year. And, you know, you have to go and you evaluate all things and you continue to push and push the expectation and uphold the standard. And, you know, that goes for me, that goes from staff, players and everybody involved. And you. We made the choice that as we were moving into this 25 season, that I wanted a football team staff, you know, every individual to bring that, that certain edge. And you know, really we've talked about a desper to go win every single day and all that, all that's in front of us, regardless of the circumstance, regardless of the, of the stage or what you're. What's in front of you. And I want to see your best show up. And, you know, we had some very tough conversations with, with players, you know, and obviously, you know, every player that came in, you know, they understood what was going to be asked of them, and every player that returned, you understood that, that expectation and really pleased with this team and the way they've gone about their business from. From January through, through this first game of the season. And, you know, we've, we put it on them and they've, they've risen to the challenge and really pushed each other and themselves. And, you know, I thought, you know, Saturday was a, was a great glimpse into a little bit of the identity of this team.
Mark Ingram
Hey, before I hand it to Mark, real quick, so when, when I had a coach like a Malzahn or like a Tony White, I don't know Tony that well, Coach White that well, but to have a guy that has enough courage to come in your office maybe and say, hey, we need to rethink this, is that what I just can imagine because Gus has been in a big seat. You know, he's been there, had. Is that something you missed? And is he doing that for you?
Rob Stone
No.
Mike Norvell
I mean, he's been. He's been great. Tony and Gus both are tremendous leaders on. On their perspective side of ball. And, you know, it's been, you know, we are working together as we push you to restore this program to where it deserves to be. And, you know, I mean, you know, and there's a sense of respect in all things that have. That have been done, and there's all. All the things that still, our focus is about this team, this group, and it's going to be different than the way that, you know, Gus and Tony maybe have done it in the past. It's going to be different in ways that, you know, I've potentially done it in the past. You know, I know the values, I know the expectation. I know the standard of what I want it to look like and what I want it to be. And we all push together and be able to formulate a plan to. To be able to execute that. And we did a great job, great job of that in the first step. And, you know, there's been a lot of collaboration and there's been a lot of adjustments from all of us to be able to. To put it together, what this team needs, because that's all that matters. The guys that are on this, on this team, and as we continue to push this program forward now and for the years to come.
Chris Donnan
Coach, man, we appreciate your time. I appreciate your time. Everyone was talking about Florida State last year, and I'm sitting here like, just relax. Mike Norville, he's a great coach. I'm a big fan of you. But I just want to talk about your. Your quarterback for a second. Tommy C. He transfer Boston College. He comes out against Belma, he just straight balls. But in the off season, you know, he said, nick, Nick Saban can't save them. I don't think they can stop me. And I respect the kid. Man, you got big nuts. You drop your nuts like that and you say that for the world and you go and back it up. Man, I got big respect for the kid. But how did you handle him? Putting that out there in that moment, but also while fostering that confidence for him to do what he did on Saturday.
Mike Norvell
I mean, Tommy's a tremendous competitor, and, you know, he's a young man that, you know, he. He definitely respects, you know, the people we go against. And, you know, you know, the Alabama program, it deserves respect. I mean, it's been, it's been one of the top programs in the country and. But, but ultimately, you know, confidence comes through the work. And as I told him, I've watched the work and you know, I support our players, I support your football team. That, you know, ultimately, I mean, anybody can go out there and say what they want to say, but you better, better make sure that the, that the actions are what show up and that the actions are something that are, that are lived on a daily basis. And that's what I've seen from Tommy from the minute that he's got here. You know, it's, it's one talk about the athletic skill and the movements and throws and all the things that he's able to do. But, you know, I've watched the investment in his teammates. I watched the investment into this program, into this community. I mean, he truly cares about it. And, you know, when it comes to the work ethic, you know, you know, I think that was, that's being put on display, you know, and how he was able to go out there and execute in the first game. And look, I mean, this is Florida State. This a special place. And you know, we, we respect who we, who we, you know, compete against, but it's not about them. It's about us. It's about what we're willing to do and what we' willing to. To push, to go accomplish.
Rob Stone
What is the ID of this Florida State team, Coach?
Mike Norvell
I mean, for us, it's, it's that competitive edge, you know, and that's, you know, everything that we did in the offseason, man, we finished with the competition. It was either one on one, group on group, man, all eyes on you. What are you going to do in that moment? And in reality, when you go one on one, somebody's got to lose. Somebody's got to face disappointment. Somebody's got to experience success. Well, where do you go with that next step? Where do you go in that response? And I think, you know, you look at a like Saturday, just like, you know, all the games that, that we've, we've all been a part of, you know, you're going to see the highs and lows. I've never seen a perfect game played out. You know, there's going to be a moment of disappointment. There's going to be, you know, plenty of moments of, of, of great, great joy. But it's, it's how you handle that. And are you still willing to, to push, to improve, to get better? And you know, that, that Competitive balance that mean I'm gonna do whatever it takes to win in this moment, right? Regardless of. Of who, what, where, and I'm gonna put all that I have. If I get knocked down, I'm gonna jump my butt back up and go take that next step.
Mark Ingram
I want to hit the ACC real quick, Mike. And that's. There was a time where there's arguably maybe the best conference in the country when you had Clemson, Miami, Florida State, Louisville, Virginia tech, all top 15 programs. And then there was a little bit of a slide. You know, I think there, you know, it was a good statement win by Miami last night. Clemson played lsu tough. You guys had a huge win. When they start talking about, I see the 4, 4, 2, 2, and a little bit disrespectful to the ACC and the Big 12, do you see the straight. Do you see it coming back? I said, I noticed when I was in the Big Ten, it came back with a force. Do you see the ACC this year looking across that table coming back?
Mike Norvell
Yeah, I believe so. I mean, I believe that this conference is, you know, there's great investment, there's great push, you know, a lot of wonderful teams. You know, I think we had 14 teams in bowl games last year, you know, two in the playoffs. I mean, and that was when. That was with us having an extremely down year. So this is going to be. It's going to be a competitive league. I think that, you know, it's. It's one thing to say it, you got to. You got to see it on the field, and I think we've shown that here in the early part of the season, you know, you know, even a couple years back, you know, we kicked off with lsu as. As, you know, in the season opener, they won the West Division, the sec, and we were able to. To get a victory there. They had the Heisman Trophy winner. We were able to get a victory there. You know, it's. We. We've stepped up to play those. Those games against those competitive teams. And, you know, I believe in what that. I believe in this conference and what it can be, and I know the competitives of what it's going to show throughout the course of this season. So, you know, we're excited to represent it and, you know, put everything we have to it.
Rob Stone
After everything that your program had to endure last season and in the off season and then opening up with Alabama. Take me, coach, to that moment when you see the fans and Doak Campbell coming out onto the field, and I know you got to play it straight Right. As a coach and find, you know, the opposing head coach over there. Get that handshake. But there had to have been some type of emotion, some type of feeling with that. That visual and that noise at the end of the game.
Mike Norvell
It's all gratitude, you know, and I thank God for the opportunity that he's provided me to be able to represent this place. I mean, I. I deeply care about this. This university, these players, the coaches I get to work with, you know, the past players that were back. I mean, it was. It was just a wonderful atmosphere, and to see all the fans. And we have a newly, you know, renovated, you know, Doe Campbell Stadium. The energy that was there with, you know, on Saturday was truly special. And, you know, that was. It was just grat. And, you know, I thank God for that opportunity. And, you know, I've got a tremendous responsibility for what I need to do and how I need to be able to lead this program and the example that we've got to set, but the standard is a standard, and we've got it. We've got to uphold that. And so the gratitude for all that was done to make Saturday, you know, a special day, and we've taken that first step. Now it's got to go. Take step two, and that's all on us.
Rob Stone
My guess is the administration will have no problems paying that $50,000 fine.
Mike Norvell
Right?
Rob Stone
We get upset.
Chris Donnan
Bam.
Rob Stone
Come on the field, K. Let's go have some fun, man. Awesome start, coach. We really appreciate it. Good luck for the rest of the season. I know you're a busy man. Hope your Labor Day weekend goes well. And congrats on starting 1 0.
Mike Norvell
Well, appreciate you guys having me on. And go, Knowles.
Chris Donnan
Appreciate you, coach. Man, keep doing your thing, man. Go beat everybody else. How you beat us, Please. I. Make me feel it. Make me feel a lot better about myself, lady.
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Mark Ingram
Painful?
Chris Donnan
Oh, man, I. I think I feel worse, Stoner, just because of a lot of the things that ailed us and caused us to have those three unranked losses last year showed up glaringly in week one. You talk about effort, you talk about toughness, you talk about discipline, not being able to stop the run, not being able to run the football. These are all reasons why we didn't make the CFP last year. And so for that to transition over into week one, carry over into week one, that is alarming to me because essentially, that is who we are right now. You know what I mean? That is who we are as a team. We're not disciplined, we're soft. We don't have great effort. We don't have 11 people pursuing to the ball. We not running the football, we're not stopping to run. These are all things that don't correlate to winning football. So right now, Alabama has a lot of work to do, and that's who we are. We got to own it and we got to live up to it, and we got a lot of work to do right now.
Rob Stone
All right, Your head coach, Kaylin DeBoer saying this after the game. I choose to believe we have a good football team. Does that quote do anything for you?
Chris Donnan
I don't know what that means, coach. I mean, I don't know what that means. Stoner, like, coach, I said it to you. Like, imagine getting your stuff handed to you, getting a foot put in your butt and then going to say that like, I love Kalen DeBoer, but like Rip into this team for me, please. Like rip into your players for me, Coach. Like, I don't know man. I just, I don't love the, the results and I don't love the press conference either, man. And I'm a fan of Kaylin DeBoer, I'm a fan of Alabama. I'm Alabama through and through. Roll, tie, through and through. But right now the sentiment around our program is nobody is extremely excited about what just transpired last week.
Mark Ingram
And so on Saturday you just wonder, Mark, in this day and age of transfer portal and all that, I know what I would have said and it wouldn't have been that, you know, what.
Rob Stone
Would you have said, Coach?
Mark Ingram
I don't know. And I, I mean we've all been there, you know, I, the, every coach has been there. Nick Saban has been there. Yes, let's throw that out there. But it's also, it's. We're at a inflection point in my point in my mind for Alabama. Well, I, I went back because I heard and I watched some snaps. Very un Alabama esque, man. I'm not talking about strategy, that has nothing to do with this. But 11, think about what Mark just said. Alabama Crimson Tide 11 guys weren't running to the ball. They're not coming screaming off the line of scrimmage. They're not hitting you right square in a jug on defense. You know, all the things once again, three, four, four, three, run it, throw. We're not talking about that. So you know, I would have said something like I'm going to rip this team apart bit by bit and we're going to put this thing back together. Because I think they're at that point what I saw. I think they're at that point and. But I don't know if he can say that. What he says and what he does, you know. And also you better have some grown ass men in that locker room and I don't know the roster but you better have some Mike, Mark Ingrams and Jack Sawyers and Joey Boses and you know, those kind of guys that rally you. Because if you have the opposite, I don't say they're done, but they're close to done. If they have a soft locker room, Mark, we got. And I don't know that you know more than I, if they have grown ass man, they'll be, you know, it's a long season.
Chris Donnan
They have some alpha dogs. Yeah, they have some alpha dogs in there. They were missing Team Keenan, their, their anchor on the defensive line. They're missing Jam Miller. I think Ty Simpson did a great job giving a lot of effort. He tried his best, but at the same time, Coach, there's nothing you can improve schematically, if we're not having the effort and the toughness and the attitude to go, you know, hit somebody in the mouth and change their will and change the way they think, especially on the road in a tough Week 1 matchup against Florida State. Team who has a chip on the shoulder, who's talking mess to you. So there's nothing schematically you could do if you don't have that toughness and the effort. So I think there's a lot of stuff that we have to work on in Tuscaloosa, man, you know, it's Amazing.
Mark Ingram
Mark, in 1965, toughness and effort won. In 1990 and 2010 and 20, 25 and 25 years from now, the game of football still, it can be spread, it can be wishbone, but toughness and effort wins. And if you don't have that, you're.
Chris Donnan
In for a long.
Mark Ingram
And maybe they do. It's still early.
Chris Donnan
It's still early. It's week one. I'm not. I'm not an overreactor here. They can easily go and clean this thing up and be in the CFP like we think. Like, I think they can be.
Mark Ingram
Well, there's talent there.
Chris Donnan
There's. There's.
Rob Stone
There has to be talent. It's Alabama.
Chris Donnan
I watched the practice and, like, I'm sitting here, like, I just saw Texas. I just saw Ohio State. Alabama looks just like that, if not better. There's not a team in the country that has more talent on the roster than Alabama. So we got to get this thing going in the right direction.
Mark Ingram
Is a great coach. He's everywhere. So. But. But he's up against.
Rob Stone
It might be a bad week to be Louisiana. Monroe, who is in Tuscaloosa this weekend, and then the Badgers come down to SEC country, and then Mark, it's a bye week heading into Alabama at Georgia and. Yeah, right. I do feel like it's an inflection point and things have to change. Like, I don't even want to talk.
Chris Donnan
About Alabama at Georgia.
Rob Stone
You want to talk about Louisiana. Monroe.
Mark Ingram
We had an inflection point moment at Florida. We. We got our ass kicked in by lsu. We had a bye week. We went four or five straight days, full pads. We. I felt we were soft that day. And this is 2000. What was it? Five. And we had two weeks to get ready for the cocktail party against Georgia, we put it. We moved one of our middle linebackers over to fullback. We went the next week full pads, full pads, full pads. And pulled the pads off on Wednesday and they rallied back and we won most of the games for the next few years after that. So that was an inflection point moment. I just don't know if you can do that now. I don't.
Chris Donnan
Hey, you will get knocked down in a game of football. It's all about how you respond. So how this team responds to this adversity, responds to this will tell us a lot about how this season will be moving forward. So I'm looking forward. I think they have the right guys in the locker room. I think we have the right guy leading us as the head coach and our coaching staff. So we will see how everyone responds and that will say a lot about this team and what we will see moving forward from.
Rob Stone
Yeah, don't bail on Bama yet. But boy, the, the talk radio down there in Birmingham and Tuscaloosa coach more. You might want to just go to satellite radio and just put. Put on some yacht rock.
Chris Donnan
One last thing. One last thing. Soner.
Mike Norvell
Yeah.
Chris Donnan
Roll. Damn. Tie.
Rob Stone
All right, how about. How about the Buckeyes rolling, if you will, slightly over Texas? That was the big game of the week. Number one versus number three. That it was crazy how the line was changing throughout the course of the week and then the last 24 hours the Buckeyes were. Were home favorite and then it turned the Texas way in the end. A narrow 147 win for the Buckeyes. We're going to talk Arch Manning in a second. Coach. We're going to talk the coordinators at Ohio State in a moment. But. But let's just start with giving the Buckeyes their due. What did you see from the defending national champs in that seven point win over Texas?
Mark Ingram
I saw two new coordinators and they managed the game spectacular. You know, it was only 203 yards Total offense with Brian Hartline and Ryan Day, but I thought they managed it perfectly. I actually talked with Coach Day last night and the only thing I would have probably punted the ball early in the game and played field position a little bit more. But him and Sark, Coach Sarkeesian went for it and kind of put their quarterbacks in, you know, tough field position or the defense in tough field position, but two excellent defenses. I think you're going to see too much different teams Week 5, 6. Once these quarterbacks get their feet underneath them talents there. My concern not, not with the Buckeyes well, let's give our due to Matt Patricia. I went and watched every snap over and over again for Big Ten Network, getting ready for that yesterday. He kept him off guard. And you can say what you want about Arch Manning, which we're going to talk about a minute. Mark Nolan was open that there was about three, and you mentioned one, a shallow cross where he came over and he threw it behind him a little bit. But for the most part, guys were not open and he was getting pressured.
Chris Donnan
He was. Yeah, he was getting pressured and he had a tough day. But like he had a couple of opportunities. He had a bad interception to Wingo to the right and then that third down shallow cross I'm telling you about. In the most crucial moment of the game where you expect, you know, your guy to be able to make the throw. He threw a high and behind and if he had completed that pass, we might be having a different discussion today because that was. It was a lot of room to run after that play. But Archman will be just fine. But Ohio State is good, man. Ohio State is a really good football team.
Rob Stone
They're playing better than you expected, Mark? I think they were better than expected for me.
Chris Donnan
At least 100. 100. That defense picked up right where they left off a year ago. Julian saying is everything that we think he is and he's going to be a good player. Like he was an Alabama commit.
Rob Stone
It didn't feel too big for saying. Right. He felt very comfortable. There were never like these scattered type.
Mark Ingram
They let him just. They, they kept everything. They did have the wraps on them. Yeah. But you know what? They should have. I thought it was excellent.
Chris Donnan
No mistakes. They did not lose that football game. They didn't have penalties. They didn't have turnovers. He had throws that receivers were dropping. He didn't make any bad throws that I can think of on top of my head. He managed the game like a veteran. The moment wasn't too big for him. So, Julian, you're saying in this defense, Ohio State is as advertised.
Rob Stone
Here's the one knock I would say about saying, and this is minor, but it's also pretty major. Your best player is Jeremiah Smith. When there's a play called for him and he's. It's a 50, 50, get it to him like, like, feed your. Feed your beast, right? Like, don't get him frustrated because Jeremiah Smith was really frustrated for a majority of Saturday. Listen, he's going to get this all season long, coach. Right. He's going to get doubled and bracketed and this and that. He's never to going, going to see.
Mark Ingram
One on one attention Rob. In, in, in. In a first start. Don't. The Jeremiah Smith's no different than anyone else. You, you, you in the first start against that defense you can now he'll learn. Like I said week five, six. He'll start to figure it out right now. Make sure that ball is going to a guy in a scarlet jersey accurately and if not, throw it away. Don't. You cannot do that. Now if Ohio State had a defense that was kind of taking a little bit and getting pushed around a little bit, that's a whole different animal. But I what I would have been saying to him the whole game, manage the game, man, I would never said, hey, let's get it to Jeremiah. Not yet.
Rob Stone
You think? I bet Jeremiah was saying let's get it.
Mark Ingram
Listen, that's not worry about getting the ball right Stoner.
Chris Donnan
The only time that I thought that he should have went to Jeremiah where he didn't was the fourth down early in the game. Jeremiah was one on one on the deep post. He had him. He had him. But he also made the right decision and throwing it to the tight end who is a great player in his own right. And he dropped it. Then Jeremiah had two drops after.
Mark Ingram
That's all gonna come.
Chris Donnan
Yeah, yeah. So I thought saying played like very. I was very impressed with this young.
Rob Stone
Player not knocking him again. I'm just saying you got the best player in college football did it to him.
Chris Donnan
He went.
Rob Stone
I know I'm not as patient as you guys are.
Mark Ingram
The best player dropped two ball, you know. So let's.
Rob Stone
It was all the gloves. It was glove problems.
Chris Donnan
I think it was frustration from the fourth down when he took up top and, and he didn't up top pork chop. It would have been that stark up the bed, Coach, you know what I mean? But man, Ohio State is impressive, man.
Mark Ingram
They're.
Chris Donnan
They're going to be a problem.
Rob Stone
Yeah, better than we. Than better than we thought. Remember, two new coordinators, only three returners on offense and defense. I didn't think they were going to get it done, but that defense was really impressive. We're going to talk about Patricia in a moment, but let's get to the name of the game. It was Arch Manning, right. We spent on Big Noon kickoff. We spent so much time hyping this young man, his DNA, his arms, his legs, his acumen, everything about him. Coach, I'm curious. Let's start with this. His demeanor, right? Just his demeanor. What did you see? What did you see from him his, whether it was his, his body movement, his non verbals as the leader of that Texas offense?
Mark Ingram
I, I've watched every snap Arch Manning has taken I mean every single snap from last year to the obviously in this and then I got up the next morning, Sunday morning watch and really slowly watched it and here I'm going to give you just grades right down the thing. Athleticism. I, I, it was actually better than I thought. His escapability. He had a third down, I think it was second and 14. He scrambled for first down and that's the other side. Those are cats. Cats. Now those are, those are, that's an SEC style defense he was facing so athleticism I thought was good. It was actually better than I thought. His accuracy was not good. His accuracy shockingly was, was not good. His decisions at times were just okay. You know there was a couple the under thrown ball in the deep. On the interception he threw, I think it was two Tampa and he threw right, he threw a in route right into the defender arm strength and release. I excellent. He threw a put his post corner out I believe in the fourth quarter to his right. I mean that was a sideline to sideline throw and he shot that thing out there. But here's the shock mark. He didn't have a completion over 10 yards until the fourth quarter. So back to your question. And I'm and, and, and Brady Quinn and Matt Liner said this to me on the sideline. I think a quarterback's job is to elevate those around them. I think that's as important as completing a swing route or a post route. That's your job. That's the job of a quarterback. I didn't see great demeanor. You know, I didn't see the energy, I didn't see the face. But you know, I didn't see the, the great quarterbacks I've been around. I didn't see him grab jerseys of guys and, and I was trying to watch that from a coach's perspective because sure enough everyone's going to look at the strategy piece. So I would say he's going to have to learn and maybe that's just not his personality, but I think it's got to become his personality certainly to lead a team. So that's, I think he'll be a completely different player in four to five weeks. I think there's no doubt the skill sets there. To be an elite, elite player, the receivers have got to get much better. The receivers didn't help him much Saturday. Yeah but I'M anxious to see how he develops as a player because you even said it on Big Noon, you know, potential first pick in the NFL draft, Heisman Trot. And I'm going, oh, my God. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, stop.
Rob Stone
All those scouts were there, GMs were there as well.
Mark Ingram
Other than Tim Tebow, I've never seen more pressure on one player in my lifetime than Arch Manning. The expectations are. I used to, when I was coaching, Tim said, come, you know, because he'd worry about it as all, they're all human, you know, they're human and, well, you know, so Sark's got his hands cut, you know, other than he's a wonderful dude from a great family and he's so talented. Watch for him to be a monster here in the last half of the season. But it's going to take a minute. Yeah.
Chris Donnan
The one thing I would say is like, yes, the job of a quarterback is to elevate those around him. But when you have a new quarterback coming into hostile environment in week one, it's your team's job to elevate you and make your job as easy as possible. And I don't think necessarily that that happened for Arch, you know what I mean? The defense played extremely well. They had a penalty that led to a touchdown, which they lost by seven points. They had a penalty who took a safety off the board. That's nine points. They lost by seven. So there's some situation in the game, some mistakes in the game where the team didn't necessarily help architect March either. So I think, you know, a quarterback, especially a veteran quarterback, is supposed to elevate the play. Those around him. When you have a young quarterback like Ohio State did for Julian, saying everyone else elevated their level of play and that's why they're able to be successful.
Mark Ingram
So let me, let me add this about the. The game, too. And, and Sark's a great coach. But there's those moments of a game, you know, when a receiver drops a ball, it's part of the game. Yep. The right tackle gets beat. That's part of the game. But as a coach, that red zone, call that mark. Rob and I were about six yards away from it. The goal line sneak. The sneak when, yes, there was about £7,000 of humanity between the tackles. And if you notice Caleb Downs and the linebackers right on the snap. I don't care if that was whoever.
Chris Donnan
Yes.
Mark Ingram
You know, a big Cam Newton. Newton, yeah. He ain't getting in. And so that's that one moment where Sark I joke around all the time about, you stay about 2 in the morning, you wake up in for the next three hours, ceiling fan. You're staring at that ceiling fan and say, why did we call that? You know, spread the field. There is no, There is no chance any human being that exists on the planet is getting in.
Rob Stone
They ran them a couple times down there, Coach, on that drive as well, for one, and it went nowhere.
Mark Ingram
Right.
Chris Donnan
The earlier in the drive, they did the fourth and one or they did the fourth and one and he barely got it. Apparently it was by the.
Rob Stone
The.
Chris Donnan
The linesman. The judge lineman marked him, but I didn't think they got it. So I would not have ran that same play on the goal line like two.
Mark Ingram
We were. We were right there, Mark, Rob and I, and I mean, we're looking. I'm counting the people. And I was like, there's no way. Don't do this. Don't.
Chris Donnan
Texas, four turnovers on downs, two red zone opportunities with no points. That loses you the game in a week, one on the road to get national champions.
Mark Ingram
So here's a good thing, Rob. In the BCS era, that's a major hit.
Chris Donnan
Yep.
Mark Ingram
The college football player. It's a learning moment. Yeah. You can lose one more Texas and you're still in the playoffs.
Rob Stone
Correct.
Mark Ingram
Correct.
Rob Stone
I don't know if they're going to lose one more, but I just want to see, you know what I want to see from Arch? I don't. I don't want the shoulders forward. I want. Want this right. I want that. I want that chest out. I want some arm. And, you know, I think he came alive. What? At some point in the fourth quarter, like those first two almost seemed like he was. He was in a haze. Maybe it was what. What the Ohio State buck ID was doing to him. Some things that he had never seen before. Things are faster, things are bigger. Right. But there will be better days for Arch. But guess what, Arch? You're still going to be scrutinized as much as you were in week one, in week two and week three and week four. That's what you get when your name is Arch Manning. Correct. That was our fresh take of the week, presented by Wendy's. Wake up with Wendy's. Breakfast time now. Mark, you ready for this? Okay. It is the Deuce Deuce dog of the week. And we're not talking, like, underdogs. We're not, like, making some picks. We're just talking your Deuce Deuce of the week. The guy that impressed you, who. What were we Saying a couple weeks ago, all aboard the Nuts bus.
Chris Donnan
All aboard the Nuts bus, man, I'm telling you, stoner man, this dude right here, I don't know what everybody's talking about, but maybe, you know, from the losses that they had last year, maybe, you know, it was a little disrespect behind the Nuts Meyer name this year, but he came out week one and he bald until he falls. You know what I mean?
Rob Stone
Yeah.
Chris Donnan
It's not the dog of the week, it's the big cat of the week because it's the LSU Tiger, Garrett Nussmeier, 28, 38, 230 yards and a touchdown. You're like, oh, that's that line. It's okay. But the way he managed the game, the way he was efficient, the way his receivers ball, the way the running backs balled, the way the defense was flying around playing football, this LSU Tiger football team looks like a problem. They are nice. LSU is nice.
Rob Stone
By the way, the conversations we would have been having had LSU lost at Clemson, it would have been, what is the state of the sec, right?
Chris Donnan
Right.
Rob Stone
Texas losing, Alabama losing, LSU losing in week one. And again, all of those would have been on the road against, you know, pretty strong programs. I know Florida State bouncing back, but I think that LSU win in Death Valley kind of settled that conversation down. And by the way, how good it would it have been for the acc, right? Florida State getting the win, Miami getting the win over Notre Dame. If Clemson was able to get that, We. We talk about sticking the chest out in the shoulders back. Right. That would have been the acc. Right. I strutting around a week one. You guys want to overreact that we're that good? Fine, bring it on, man.
Chris Donnan
Hey, man. But listen, we're talking about all playoff teams here. Like, every team we're talking about is like teams we're going to see here in three, four months in the playoffs.
Mark Ingram
So.
Chris Donnan
But dog of the week, the Nuss Meyer, he went. LSU is a looking real deal right now, and it's a lot to do with their quarterback, the Nuts, and Coach.
Rob Stone
Kelly finally getting that week one win, right, that had been eluding him for so long down there in Baton Rouge. All right, coming up next, we continue.
Mark Ingram
We continue to work our way through.
Rob Stone
The best performances from a loaded week one. And coming up later, how about this? We're gonna go out to Ames. Iowa State head coach Matt Campbell joins us ahead of their huge matchup with Iowa this Saturday. It's all coming your way. Next on the triple option.
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Mark Ingram
I am. So many great performances in week one, but I'm going to start it with my hometown Buckeyes. Matt Patricia was a great hire by Ryan Day. Matt Patricia Mark, I'm not sure people realize this. He was the D coordinator, learned under Bill Belichick, went to be a head coach and then he went back to the Patriots and actually called plays on offense. So he has complete knowledge offense, defense and I've known him a long time so his performance, his defense's performance. First of all, they're loaded. They're saying the back end of the defense might be better than last year. I held him to seven points, one to five on fourth down which was a difference in the game including the goal line stand. You know the Texas archmand, they complete a pass over 10 yards to the fourth quarter so he is number one of the top three performances a week. 1. Number 2. A guy I got great respect for for many, many years. I still. We started his ran run game forever. He's the offense coordinator at Florida State. Gus Malzahn. He just beat Bama. Seven players combined. Think about this. Seven players. This is Gus Malzahn. Seven players combined for rushing the ball 46 times for 236 yards. 5.1. But it's seven players. So let's tell you, it's coming from every angle. Receivers, running backs, quarterbacks, we copied them all the time. They only threw the ball 14 times, mark. 452 yards. But once again, that's Gus Malzan. He'll throw it, coach.
Chris Donnan
You don't have to throw it when you're running it down somebody's throat and making them like it.
Mark Ingram
And two for two on fourth down. Again, that's Gus Malzon because he's a creative run game, guys. So he's beaten Alabama five times as a head coach, as coach, a coordinator, which is.
Chris Donnan
Can we say the losses.
Rob Stone
Mark, That's a former barner. That's a former barter. Beating your ties.
Chris Donnan
We need to say the losses.
Mark Ingram
And how about this cat, man, I was watching. I watched that game real close. Blake Baker. I don't know him. LSU defense coordinator. But man, did they play hard on defense. And the cameras were on them. And I, I remember, I tried to look him up, but he's been there for two years. Last year they did a little bit better because that's been. It's hard to say this. LSU's struggled on D. I never knew LSU to struggle on defense, but they did two years ago. Last year a little better. This year they look legit. Legit. They held a Heisman trophy front runner club neck to 260 total yards at Clemson. He was only 19 of 38 and a pick. So those are my three top performers. I went with the coordinators. Obviously the players do, the players play, coaches coach. But I thought those three were excellent.
Rob Stone
By the way, those three might be head coaches at this juncture next season.
Mark Ingram
I think Gus is done. I think.
Rob Stone
Oh, you think he's happy just being a coordinator and sitting back, not in.
Mark Ingram
The big chair in this new era. I think Gus wants. He's a little bit like Chip Kelly in my mind. I know both of them pretty well. I don't know Gus that well, but he, he's a. He's a football nut job that wants to call plays.
Rob Stone
And by the way, the Patricia signing didn't get A whole lot of attention, like not a lot of folks were talking about it. I agree. That might have been the off season acquisition of the year, at least in the coordinator mode.
Chris Donnan
And just, just to clarify this, he has, he's three and five against Alabama. Gus Malazan is. So he does have his five losses as a head coach and then as a coordinator overall five and seven. So he does have a losing record against Alabama. Just, just have to.
Rob Stone
In Alabama.
Mike Norvell
Correct.
Mark Ingram
Over there.
Chris Donnan
Because I mean we're getting bashed. We deserve it. But I mean we need some respect too. At the end of.
Mark Ingram
How about you looking up that fast.
Rob Stone
It up, Coach? I think he's got people, I think he's got people back there. Look at that chat.
Chris Donnan
Shout out to the Z man. I had to ask him. He got back to me real quick. You know what I mean?
Mark Ingram
He's unbelievable.
Chris Donnan
He is.
Mark Ingram
He's the goat.
Rob Stone
All right, Mark, time for your three and out.
Chris Donnan
Oh my three and out. You want that three and out? Well, I'm going to start with your boy down there in South Beach. Your boy, Carson Beck. Everyone wondering, is Beck going to do this? Is Beck going to do that? Guess what Beck going to do. He going to ball. He going to ball. 20 for 31, 205 yards and two touchdowns. 27, 24 win over Notre Dam on the road.
Rob Stone
Does it. No, no, that was, no, it was home.
Chris Donnan
It was home.
Rob Stone
Does that Miami win change your perspective on what you think about the Hurricanes this season?
Chris Donnan
It does change the way I, they're shilling. I feel like they're a playoff team. I feel like they're a playoff team. Carson Beck, it wasn't just the, the numbers and his performance. It was his energy, his leadership, how he was. He was turned up like talking mess, like getting his people fired up on the sideline. Then that Miami defense looks significantly better than it did a year ago. They were putting pressure on the quarterback. When you have, I don't know if they would have finished that game last year how they did last night. They had what, two or three sacks to finish the game and, and essentially the, the time ran out on Notre Dame.
Rob Stone
So yeah, the Notre Dame offensive line looked, looked tired. They looked a little gas right there. That South Florida humidity got to him maybe.
Chris Donnan
Yeah. It was night time, man. If you want to play in South Florida, you play at night and they got the chance. So that was your best opportunity. But no, I, I, I thought Carson Beck was a, it was a big question mark. Was he going to continue to play that he had From a year ago where he was probably the number one pick, but he ended up coming back. And then he comes to Miami and really just bald, man. He looked like a leader. He looked refreshed. He looked like he was having fun.
Mark Ingram
And he took care of the ball.
Rob Stone
Yep, there you go. There you go. Because those turnovers last season were a big bugaboo.
Mark Ingram
Has never been an issue with him. It's just take care of the damn ball. And he did.
Chris Donnan
And defense, Coach, they played defense. Miami Hurricanes are playing defense. Yeah, that's a problem here in the SEC.
Rob Stone
I think the ACC's back this year. I think the ACC's back. ACC is back. Clemson is going to be really good. And oh, by the way, your next guy, Florida State, their quarterback is going to make some believers out of the.
Chris Donnan
Noise, man, I'm telling you, man, this kid, Tommy C. Tommy Castellanos, the transfer from Boston College, he goes back in the summer, he drops his nuts like a grown man that says they ain't nothing, they ain't got coach saving to save them. They can't stop me. And guess what he does, Stoner. Guess what he does, coach. He goes out there, he makes Bama eat his words. And I respect it for you to go out there and put yourself out there and say that, then go out there and back it up against Bama. Yeah, I respect this kid and I'm a fan of this kid because he did that. He did that for sure. He made Bama eat his words. He went out there and there was no answer for him. They couldn't stop him. And guess who couldn't save him? Them, Coach Saban. So, hey, man, Tommy C. Man, shout out to you, man, you did my boys wrong, but I hope you do it to the rest of the folks all year long. And it made me feel a lot better about myself, but still. Roll down, Tide.
Rob Stone
I hear you. Number three.
Mark Ingram
Number three.
Chris Donnan
That Ohio State Buckeye defense, you talk about dogs who led them and carried them to a national title run last year. It was this defense. They had several wins off the back of their defense and they come and translate straight to week one, picking up where they left off. This defense held Texas, what? They stopped them on turnover, on downs four times. Stopped them in the red zone two times. Interception. This team right here, this defense right here is going to pick up right where they left off. And they are right here in the national championship conversation again, Shout out to the Ohio State defense, getting them a win again.
Rob Stone
Yeah, and think of the studs that were on the sideline watching the Buckeye was back there. Jack Sawyer was there, JT was there, right? Like, like those are big holes to fill. And man, that, that, that Buckeye. I think the Buckeye defense is, is what's changing the perspective. A lot of, of a lot of people that. You know what, Maybe, maybe Ohio State can actually go back to back for the first time ever.
Chris Donnan
I was over there on the sideline, bro. I was over on the sideline. I'm talking to Shajier. He said, they got that bbl. I'm like, what? He got that big black linebackers. Hey, them boys out there running around smacking stuff. They got that bbl.
Rob Stone
Big smacking it.
Chris Donnan
You're smacking big bbl, big black linebackers and they running around hitting people in the mouth. How State defense back again.
Rob Stone
All right, time for my. My three and out. Let's go to Ann Arbor. How about the True Freshman Bryce Underwood, 3417 win over New Mexico in his first start, 21 to 31, 251, a touchdown. Did you see that block that he had down there in the. In the red zone as well? I mean, he's a big cat. He does not look like a true freshman. He's laying out some linebacker, defensive liners. I don't know who the hell he hit, but he hit somebody to clear a path as well. Completed four passes of 25 yards or more last week. Last season, Michigan. And again, they had no vertical game, they had no pass game. They only had six such plays the entire year. It's clear how much his head coach, shown more trust, enjoys his enthusiasm and play. Bryce Underwood, man, whatever. Michigan paid for him and they paid a lot for him. It paid off in a week, you.
Chris Donnan
Know, just, just, just a little asterisk there. You know who could have been an honorable mission is his running back, Justice Haynes.
Rob Stone
I'm gonna get to him later.
Chris Donnan
Oh, my bad, my bad, my bad.
Rob Stone
Yeah, they got it. They got a big one. Yeah, I know. That was part of it as well. Number two coach, you're gonna like this one. This is going to perk you up. Let's talk about Utah and their new quarterback, Devin Dampier Jr. He's got a little Kyler Murray in him right now. Sits there at 5, 10. He's from the Phoenix area, transferred in from New Mexico. Utah schmacked. Did I say it right?
Chris Donnan
Smack.
Rob Stone
Utah smacked 43 to 10 in the Rose Bowl. Dampier 206. Two touchdowns on the ground, 87 yards. Another touchdown. The Utes on third down, guys, 14 of 16. And this is a team coach, and you know it. They went 5 and 7 last year, 2 and 7 in the conference. It felt to me, maybe to you as well, like it was a statement game that the Utes are back and so is their offense.
Mark Ingram
Well, Kyle Whittingham, I talked to him all the time and he looked. They not only got the player, they got their coordinator. So they brought in the offense coordinator and there was a package deal. And they get this and he loves them. He said, this guy's going to be all over the field to go game one into the ucla, which everybody was. Some guys are picking UCLA to be much better. And I looked at the stats, it was complete beating. But look at the stats. 21 is 25 or 206. And you just said 14 to 16 on third downs. I don't know if I've ever heard of that. So great win for 16 Utah.
Rob Stone
All right, time for my number three and he's our new teammate. How about the debut of Dave Portnoy and big noon kickoff? He leaned into that heel role. He was antagonizing everybody in Columbus. He was standing up for the Big Ten. He was getting the crowd going. He was downright enjoying himself. And it was a lot of fun to finally meet Dave. And it was great to see the energy and the enthusiasm and maybe some of the conversations that he was able to bring to the big noon kickoff team this week. In week number one, we had dinner with them. We were hanging out with him. There was a lot of this mark, just a lot of like what's going on right now? Like just stand back and let him. Let Dave Portnoy just go do Dave Portnoy things, right?
Chris Donnan
Yeah, let Dave do his thing. This is what rivalries are all about. You hate each other, then you go have a slice of pizza with them. So Dave was the man, bro. He had a great day. We had a great addition to the big noon kickoff for show.
Rob Stone
Iowa State head coach Matt Campbell joins us next on the triple option presented by Wendy's. And we're going to make our week two picks with a two minute drill. Welcome back to the triple option presented by Wendy's. Rob, Mark Urban back here with you. We are now joined by the winningest head coach in Iowa State football history. Matt Campbell joins his 10th year in Ames. Coach, that's amazing. But according to coach Meyer, you were this close. This close coach to being. Wait, was he going to be on your staff?
Mark Ingram
Urban not this close. He took it. So I get hired at Ohio State. And I knew of Matt from his Mountain Union days and Bowling Green days, and. And I just. I saturated myself and calling all my high school coaches and Matt Campbell, Matt Campbell, you need Mike Campbell, you gotta hire. I say, oh, I better call Matt Campbell. So I called him, and we've. We've been somewhat free. We know not. We didn't know each other that well, but he was a defense coordinator at Toledo. Tim Beckman just left to go to Illinois, and he had a job to go to Illinois. And I said, said, I'd really like to have you here in Ohio State. And he's like, let's go. Let's talk about it. And I don't want to put words in your mouth that I kind of remember is like this. This is a wrap. I got me a hell of a coach here, and Matt Campbell. And then I said, okay, let's work this out. I'll call you tomorrow or something. Then he calls me the next day and he says, hey, you know, they want me to interview at Toledo as a head coach for the head coaching position. I was thinking, matt, you're so young. There's no chance he's getting this. So and so I said, sure. Good luck to you and all that. And I'm thinking, I got me a coach. I mean, he calls me like, three days later, says. I said, how'd it go? He said, really well. I'm like, oh, damn. And a few days later, the new head coach at Toledo is Matt Campbell. And very few are in this profession I respect more. Matt and I are close. We used to meet every year. I just got tremendous respect for him, and I can't wait to see him as first time I'm gonna see Ames, Iowa, and. And a program that you've built as one of the most respected out there. So great to have you, Matt.
Matt Campbell
Yeah, thanks, coach. I appreciate it. And we. We really look forward to having you. And, you know, Coach Meyer gave me great advice. I remember even asking you during that process of man, coach, what do you think I should do? And he said, you better go interview for that job. That's a great job. And I've, you know, from that day forward, coach has always been a. A great mentor of mine, and I really appreciate all he's done for me, for sure.
Chris Donnan
Coach, you started the. The year with a tough conference game versus Kansas State in Ireland, then South Dakota. And this week, in week three, you have a rivalry game versus Iowa. What are you learning about your team with this demanding schedule in the first three weeks? Of the season.
Matt Campbell
Well, you know, I. I think we went into our off season here, and, you know, we. We had a successful season a year ago, and I think anytime you have success in our sport, the challenges. Are you tough enough and do you have enough courage to grow and get better? And, you know, uniquely, I think this off season and having this schedule that we did, having to travel to Ireland, really, nobody's really come off of the Ireland trip in college football and really had success in a football season, obviously, coming back and playing a really good South Dakota team and then playing another rival. You know, uniquely, we were playing two rival games in the first three weeks of our season. And, you know, I think it was probably the right recipe for myself, our staff, and our kids since from January on to say, buddy, you better be ready to bring it in. Our toughness and our character and who we are is going to be challenged from day one. And so, you know, I thought our kids really had a great January through February and really had a great all season. I thought, you know, we took that mentality in the spring and really grew up and that I thought we had a really physical and demanding summer and fall camp and I thought at least allowed us to be mentally prepared for the start of the football season. And. And again, I think we're just going to keep finding out about ourselves. Right? I mean, this is not a. Two games doesn't define anything other than the fact of the matter of. It is like we're growing and we have to continue to grow forward, especially this week against this opponent, if we want to continue to have the success we want. Want to have.
Mark Ingram
I think this is really. I have two questions for you, Matt. Coach Campbell, when you start the season, Kansas State, then Iowa, there's a lot of intensity, and then you got to pull those pads off quicker. So kind of talk about, you know, if you're. If you're not starting, you don't really tell your team much and you don't tell your coaches. I used to just kind of keep that between me and maybe our strength coach. But the intensity level, you better start camp fast and hard, because when you open up with a conference game, you want your guys to be healthy, fresh. When you. When you open up, talk to the viewer about when you open up with a. Right. When you open the rivalry in a conference game, and then you're at. I. You know, you got the Iowa game. How intense is the first part? And then you back off as training camp goes.
Matt Campbell
Yeah, I think you're so right, Coach. And you Know, we, we spent a lot of time dissecting how the heck.
Mark Ingram
Are we going to.
Matt Campbell
My strength coach and myself, how are we going to, how are we going to unload this fall camp? You know, we got to tackle well right out of the gate. We better block really well and get off blocks really well if we're going to and we better be able to run the football really well early in the season if we want to have success. And, you know, the only way I know how to do that is to physically practice and compete at a really high level. You got to practice, you got to tackle, you got to scrimmage. And so I think the first two and a half, three weeks of camp, probably the most physical. I think both of our scrimmages were 124 and 130 plays of live football. And so I think we got more live football early in fall camp. I thought we did a really good job tapering down. And then honestly, coming off of Ireland has been the biggest trick. Right. How are you going to practice? I, you know, fortunately for me, Nick Sirianni and I were roommates in college and, you know, kind of got a little bit of what they did at the Eagles, you know, what he thought they did well, what they didn't do well last year, which was good because I think, you know, there, there's a point of pulling back when we got back from Ireland, that was critical if we were going to play the way we needed to play last weekend and then obviously moving forward. And so I think we're still trying to find that right balance to be, to be great this weekend. But at least the first two weeks, I thought it really helped us trying to find that balance of early physicality, man pulling back and being physically prepared.
Mark Ingram
To play the game on big noon kickoff. I'm going to cover the quarterback coach relationship. And your co, your quarterback said something after the big win in Ireland against Kansas State, where I believe he checked to a player, maybe it was a two way, three way. But once you get a veteran quarterback that you really trust at J.T. barrett, Alex Matibo, something like that, basically he's a coach on the field. I tell people he's actually the primary play caller if you give him a lot of freedom. Has he earned that right? Does he during the course of game, do you let him go make if he sees something, can he go to it? Has he earned that right as and trust quarterback?
Matt Campbell
He certainly has, coach. You know, I think one of the things that's been fun for us and probably, again, a growth process for me as a head football coach. You know, we were fortunate. You know, kind of like you when you had Josh at Bowling Green and obviously, you know, what you had at Utah. I think for me, having Brock Purdy, you know, and kind of going through this very similar transition, Brock's junior and senior year, where you were able to give so much more of the playbook to Brock, I think Rocco just is such an unbelievable student in the game. He's the first guy here. Shoot. He beats half the staff at times to the facilities. That kind of kid. And he's curious. He wants to know what it takes. And I love it. And I've always felt like if the quarterback and the head coach have a very similar mentality and relationship, then it can really dictate the flow of. Of the locker room, let alone men in those 60 minutes in a football game, making sure that there's poise and there's precision in what's going on. And, you know, we're really fortunate to have that with Rocco. He's a guy that. He has absolute control of the offense. We've got to. We put a lot on his plate, and in the critical moments, most importantly, he's a guy that's got the ability to handle the game. And that. That's been huge for us. And if you look at our success a year ago and this year, boy, those. Those men, those things like, man, the last two minutes of the half, the first, the last two minutes of games, the amount of plays that guy's made in critical moments to win us football games. And it's a tribute to his time, effort, and energy in this facility when nobody's watching, being prepared for those moments.
Mark Ingram
Before I turn over to Mark real quick, is there a percentage without giving away too much, is. I mean, is he. Can he. Can he go during the course of game, Will you let him. I know there's parameters, but. But if he sees something, has he earned that right?
Matt Campbell
He certainly has, coach. You know, and I think by about the midway point of last season, he was really at that. At that point in his career, and which was early. I mean, that is sophomore year last year. But he's played a lot of football, and he's a guy that, again, is trusted, and he's always done that with great, I think, great trust from myself or offensive coordinator, everybody involved. So I really. I love what he's about. I love what his mental makeup is and his consistency when he's. When he's made the right calls. He's always done it with great precision.
Rob Stone
Coach, we are headed to Ames this weekend, big noon kickoff for the Cyhawk trophy battle against your rival Iowa. For those that don't know much about this game and what it means inside that state and maybe what it means for the Big 12 and the Big 10 this year, give us kind of a, a quick little reader's guide version of, of what this rivalry game is all about and what it means for you guys.
Matt Campbell
Yeah, I, I think obviously the thing that makes this really special is, you know, there are no pro sports in the state of Iowa. And so, you know, you're Talking about the two, you know, Power 4 universities that play Power 4 football in this state. And I think, you know, half the state grows up Cyclones, half the state grows up Hawkeyes. And so I think it's made it a really special rivalry. And for both universities and programs, it makes it a really, really fascinating game. I think the thing for us that it's been rewarding is to continue to grow this rivalry. You know, when we got here, the success that Iowa and Coach Ferenc has had over the long haul and the consistency of football that they played, we, we were trying to get our football program to that point. And I think the point now of getting ourselves there and being able to make this a true rival football game has been really rewarding. Obviously, we've got great respect for them and their program, but it makes this game special, and it also makes it unique that you play it so early. You know, I'm used to rival games. Before I came here, rival games were played at the end of the season. And to have a game that, that means so much and certainly is so unique and, and having it at the beginning of the season is obviously, it's a, it's a great challenge, but it's also a great opportunity to set your team up for great success going forward.
Chris Donnan
Coach, you're the winningest coach in Iowa State history. You have had many, several job offers to leave Iowa State. Why have you been so loyal to Ames and the Cyclones?
Matt Campbell
I think that's a great question. You know, I, I, I think for me, you know, really young still. I'm only 45 years old, and I, I, I think one of the things that, you know, when Covid hit, I think there was some reality, you know, and perception, reality at that point of, then you're at home, we've got four kids, and you're like, holy smokes, man. This is what goes on at home every day, you know, and, and, you know, I Think since that time, you know, I think what I realized is number one, you know, you always want to surround yourself with, with great people. And one of the things we've had the same athletic director, the same president here during my time, which they've been tremendous supporters of myself and our program. Number two, you want to do what's right for your family. And it's been a great place for me to raise my. Our kids here. I've got a daughter now that's going to be a senior, a daughter that's a junior. We haven't moved all over. It's been a great place to raise our children. And then number three, and I think probably most important is as the world continues to be unique around us, you get to stand for something. Something. And I do think when you come and you watch our football team play, we haven't flinched of who we want to be and what we want to stand for. And you know, I'm really proud of what our program's about. I'm really proud of where we were to where we are now. Is it easy here? It's not. Is there is a lot easier other places. Maybe it is, maybe it's not. But the reality of it is for us, we know who we are, we know what we're about, we know what we stand for. And for that part of it, I'm really proud of it. So I think those three things have been really the, the main reasons for me of why I've been here.
Mark Ingram
I want to get. I want to go hardcore football here for a minute. So you're facing Iowa. Phil Parker's you know Mo as well as anybody. I coached against him many, many times. And when you get ready for a team, it's almost mind boggling when you look up at the grease board and you see high percentages of 4, 3 cover, you know, they just don't do much yet. They are so in its. At some point you think they'd get exotic because there's other defenses. Rob Markey, we'll look up there and it's 2% this 4%, 8. I'm telling you it's 85% for. It's crazy. But they are so good at stopping your five best plays and run and pass. Have they changed much or. I mean you see these cats every week is that it's a phenomenon to me how good they are and how they develop their players. But they don't do much on defense.
Matt Campbell
Yeah, I think you're so right, coach. And I think what, what, what they're so great at is their fundamental and technique. And what they make you better be great at is you better have elite fundamental and technique on the other side of it, because if not, they're going to make you pay really fast. And, you know, I, I think that's what's been the staple, what they do do. They know how to make their adjustments, you know, shift, trade, motion, whatever you want to do, you want to play fast, whatever those are. They know how to get their feet set, they know how to get their eyes right, and they know how to, how to win on their first two steps. And so I think that's the great challenge against, against this Iowa team. And Coach Parker does an unbelievable job is, man, he's going to get their kids in the right position. He's going to let their kids get vertical, and they're going to tackle really well. They're going to do everything in their power to win the turnover margin. And you know, when you have vision of the football, you can, you can turn the ball over and they've done it as good as anybody. And so, you know, I think that is certainly the great challenge for us is fundamentally and technically we're going to have to be outstanding.
Rob Stone
We've labeled the Big 12 as a wide open conference this season. How would you describe the Big 12?
Matt Campbell
Yeah, you know, I think probably really fair. I think there's a lot of veteran quarterbacks this year in the Big 12. A lot of guys have played a lot of football coming back. You know, I think over the course of the last couple of years, I think the coaching in this, in this league, it's evolved. You know, it used to be the spread, spread wide open conference. I think tight ends and running backs and, you know, again playing defense has started to come to fruition in this conference. And so, you know, I think it's, it's only grown and I think from top to bottom, this, this conference, you better come and you better play a football or it's going to be really hard to win football games in this conference right now.
Chris Donnan
Coach, we told you, we promised you give you 15 minutes. It's 15 minutes. We always do one thing on our show. We let our guests answer. Ask us a question. We've been peppering you 15 minutes. You could pick any one of us ask a question, and we want to give you the opportunity to do that before we let you go.
Matt Campbell
Awesome. Well, I appreciate that. Well, I'm going to go with Coach Meyer and one of my great admirations for coaches. He always had the ability to sustain success. And I think it's one of the great challenges that we're after here in Ames, Iowa is sustaining success at a really high level. The one or two values coach that you really believed in, it's sustained success.
Mark Ingram
You know, when I first became a head coach, the top of the pyramid in college was a guy named Pete Carroll. And I don't know Coach Carroll very well, but I studied everything he did. You know, I had spies out there because I was just amazed at what he was doing. And I walked away and I was about the Bowling Green. You know, right when I was at Bowling Green and then went to Utah. Is the word competition is everywhere in the playbook at everywhere I went. And that was him. And I think he's still doing it. I mean, everything was seven on seven, whether it was inside drill, whether it was the off season program was gps. And I just became a nut job about everything's competition. I want competition between the coaches who's going to be the best recruiters. So I, I just think and I see that with you. I know you personally, but the minute the word see the big C word competition starts to fade in your program. Watch out. That's a problem. And I see that with you guys, but that's something I learned from Pete Carroll and studying it from. From afar.
Matt Campbell
Awesome. I appreciate it.
Rob Stone
Hey, Coach, what time do you want to showing up at your house for the Friday night dinner?
Matt Campbell
Hey, you know, somebody asked me this summer Coach Meyer. No, no, I was worried about Coach Meyer finding a great meal in Ames, Iowa. So I, you know, but we're, I, I got to be on the lookout for somewhere good for coach Meyer to be able to get a great meal on on Friday night. But man, you guys are welcome to the Campbell house anytime.
Rob Stone
I love it to worry about, pal.
Mark Ingram
Don't worry about us.
Rob Stone
Hey, Coach Campbell, you know what Coach Meyer's toughest decision is on Fridays now. Go ahead, coach. Do it. Here it is.
Matt Campbell
Those are good decisions.
Chris Donnan
Coach.
Mark Ingram
You look good, man. I'm happy for you, Matt.
Rob Stone
Coach, we can't wait to see you this Saturday. The team big noon kickoff squad, Fox Sports. Coming your way to Ames for the Cyhawk trophy, Matt Campbell from Iowa State. Thanks, man. Congrats on everything you've had accomplished so far and good luck going forward.
Mark Ingram
Thanks, Coach. Appreciate you.
Rob Stone
Two Minute Drill is brought to you by FanDuel. Visit FanDuel.com Triple Option to download the app and take advantage of a 50% profit boost today. Mark, we're going to start where team Big noon. Kickoff will be this weekend in Ames, Iowa at Iowa State, battling for the Cy Hawk Trophy. The Cyclones unbeaten at home, favored by two and a half. The over under 42 and a half points.
Chris Donnan
Yes. Donner, why are you doing all my stuff? The Cyhawk Trophy. I was giving. You know what I mean, you just. Just a. A1.
Mike Norvell
Can we talk about.
Rob Stone
Wait. Can we talk about the Cyhawk Trophy?
Chris Donnan
I. I'd like them to talk about the Cyhawk Trophy.
Rob Stone
Let's rename that. It's such a insane name. None of it makes sense.
Chris Donnan
Iowa State Cyclones.
Rob Stone
I know what it. I know the Cyclone and the Hawk Eye, but I think we can do better. That's your. That's your project for this week. By the time I see you in Ames, come up with a better name for the Cyhawk Trophy.
Chris Donnan
Sounds good. But let's talk about this game. Iowa. Kirk Ference. How about this? One win away from becoming winningest coach in Big Ten history. I don't know.
Mark Ingram
Woody Hayes, right?
Chris Donnan
Yeah.
Rob Stone
Yeah. Yeah. He's tied with Woody Hayes, Coach.
Mark Ingram
Yep.
Chris Donnan
But both these coaches are the winningest coaches in their school history. Kirk Ference and Matt Campbell. Let's talk about Iowa. Four straight seasons, top 20 defense and offense ranked outside the top 100. How about that? They scored 34 points in their last game versus Albany. 310 rushing yards. But they had 16 pass attempts for 48 yards. The quarterback, Mark Gronowski, 8 of 15 for 44 yards.
Rob Stone
That's not a lot of state. That's not a lot. 44 yards is not a lot.
Chris Donnan
But how about this, though?
Rob Stone
How about the rushing game?
Chris Donnan
Yeah. 310 rushing yards.
Rob Stone
Let's go. You should. You should be ecstatic.
Chris Donnan
Mark.
Rob Stone
I was your team.
Chris Donnan
I. Hey, man, you know, I had to do my little research. Shout out to the Z, man, you fear me. You know, I mean, but then also this babe. But the defense, we know they play defense. Nine consecutive seasons allowed under 20 points per game. So Iowa, they can run the football. Can they pass? Doesn't look like it. And they play defense. Now let's go to Iowa state. Matt Campbell, 2 and 6 record against Iowa. But he's won two of the last three. Their quarterback, Rocco Bet, is a straight baller. Last week, 19 to 21 incompletion. One incompletion. One incompletion. So he's been playing extremely well at a high level. Got a great running back duo, got two tight ends, got a couple receivers. But their defense allowing 14 points per game, multiple takeaways in the first two games of the season. So what I'm saying here is I don't know who's going to win, but I know there's not going to be a lot of points in this game. So guess what Mark Ingram's going to do. Under going under 42 and a half in this matchup. Under 42 and a half in this matchup. And that is your two minute drill for the Iowa State Iowa game in Ames this weekend.
Rob Stone
By the way, there were a lot of unders in week one. A lot of unders in week and.
Chris Donnan
I'm going under here. Defense versus defense.
Rob Stone
Yep.
Chris Donnan
I hear you.
Rob Stone
Can't wait to get to. Can't wait to get to Ames, by the way. Cannot wait to see Iowa State, their campus and their and their people as well. Big game in Norman, Oklahoma this Saturday. Second ever meeting between Michigan and Oklahoma. Sooners favored by five and a half over under 47 and a half. Sooners losing record in two of their three seasons under head coach Brent Venables. That includes six and seven last year. Yeah, the seat is warm. The seat is warm under coach Venables right now. It's been five straight seasons without a playoff appearance for Oklahoma. Right. But the good news, the offense and the scoring was back at least in week one against Illinois State. 35 to three. The win. They outgained their opponent, Mark. 495 to 151. They put up say 195 yards on Illinois State. John Mateer. Yeah, it's a big number. John Mateer, the transfer from Washington State. Fantastic. Accounted for over 400 yards of total offense and four touchdowns. We talk about the pressure on Brett Venables. You know, coach, he made his name as a defensive coordinator, as a defensive guy. He took over the defensive play calling this year. Also took a pay cut. Pulled $1 million out of his salary. You know what they're doing with it? They're sliding it over to the department's revenue sharing effort. So he is. He's taken.
Chris Donnan
He's all in.
Rob Stone
He's moving. He's moving the paycheck to, you know what he's moving it for, right? To get some players back to Norman and get Oklahoma back into the playoffs. Wolverines. They too want to know. Took care of New Mexico 34 17. The offense gained more yards in that game. 452 than they had in any game last season. Remember, they had no vertical game. They had no passing game in Ann Arbor. They do now. Bryce Underwood, number one ranked player in the 25 recruiting class was going to LSU. For some reason, he found his way close to home.
Chris Donnan
That money.
Rob Stone
Ann Arbor. Yeah, he got that money and they're getting what they paid for. And then you, you hit on it earlier. Mark. The running game for Michigan. The Alabama transfer, Justice Haynes. Sixteen carries, 159, three touchdowns. All right. And head coach Sharon Moore returns to his alma mater. So let's see. Oklahoma scored 35, Michigan scored 34. Move my debt. That's 69 points. Okay. The over under is 47 and a half.
Chris Donnan
Over.
Rob Stone
The over, baby. I'm taking over in this one. Yeah. Taking the over. All right, Coach. Sec, right? Ole Miss. Well, that's. There's that too, Coach. To the Sec. Ole Ms. @ Kentucky.
Mark Ingram
Yeah. Surprisingly, Kentucky is one of the. It's really a tough place to play, Mark. I don't know if you remember going there, but they also got Mark Stoops who's a defensive minded guy and they've been rugged over the last few years. And you got Lane Kiffin coming rolling in there after a big win. The overpowered Georgia State. But I, I'm going to take ole miss by 12. I. I think this are truly two untested teams. We really don't know much about them. One be Georgia State. That's Ole Miss. Kentucky was in a battle with a pretty good Toledo team. So I just see Ole Miss rolling a little bit. I think Lane Kiffin obviously is a heck of an offensive coach. I think they're going to score some points in this game. I got Ole Miss beating Kentucky by 12.
Chris Donnan
Wow.
Rob Stone
They're only favored by nine and a half. Look at coach.
Chris Donnan
Lay the points.
Rob Stone
Ole Miss going on the road to Lexington and dropping a double digit win on Kentucky.
Chris Donnan
Lay the points. Coach.
Mark Ingram
It's still so early, but you know what, I just, I just see they have a beat such a quarterback in Kentucky. That's what got me 24:17 Kentucky to compete in the SEC. You know you, you need to be Toledo by more than that.
Rob Stone
Yeah. They got to get their pass game going.
Chris Donnan
Oh, Miss has a ball player at quarterback. We know that.
Rob Stone
Again. Again.
Chris Donnan
Again.
Mark Ingram
Again.
Rob Stone
Again. Funny how that happens. Lane knows. Lane knows what Butters is bread, man. Follow subscribe rate us on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts as well as across social media. We are at 3x I option. Show love to our sponsors, Wendy Zip Recruiter and FanDuel. Enjoy the football this weekend. We'll talk to you next week. And if you're in the.
Mark Ingram
Wendy's right. Are we going to Wendy's.
Rob Stone
That's coming up later this month. And if you're in Ames, come on down, man. Come on down to big Nude kickoff. We'd love to have you.
Episode Title: Alabama Goes Down, Ohio State on Top, Florida State's Mike Norvell & Iowa State's Matt Campbell Join
Hosts: Urban Meyer, Mark Ingram II, Rob Stone
Date: September 3, 2025
Theme: Navigating a New Age in College Football — Impactful Week 1 Results, High-Profile Coaching Guests, Playoff Expansion, NIL, Realignment, and Defining Culture in the Modern Game
This episode dives into a high-drama start to the college football season: Florida State’s historic upset of Alabama and Ohio State’s gritty win over Texas. Hosts Urban Meyer, Mark Ingram II, and Rob Stone analyze these monumental games, discuss repercussions for powerhouse programs, and examine the shifting landscape of college football. Featured guests are Florida State head coach Mike Norvell and Iowa State's Matt Campbell, offering insider takes on building resilient teams and navigating high expectations. The episode is rich with leadership lessons, tactical analysis, and bold, locker-room-style banter about what’s next in the sport.
Guest: Mike Norvell, Florida State Head Coach
Timestamps: 01:52–12:14
Norvell on Righting the Ship: After a disappointing 2-10 year, Norvell describes necessary “tough conversations” with staff and players, pushing for a “competitive edge” and “relentless focus on getting back to the standard of Florida State.”
“We put it on them and they've, they've risen to the challenge...Saturday was a great glimpse into a little bit of the identity of this team.”
— Mike Norvell (03:03)
Locker Room Leadership & Culture: Urban probes how collaboration with veteran coordinators Gus Malzahn and Tony White has shaped FSU’s restoration.
“We all push together and be able to formulate a plan...The guys that are on this team, and as we continue to push this program forward now and for the years to come.”
— Mike Norvell (04:56)
Player Spotlight – QB Tommy C. (Castellanos): Mark and Chris highlight Castellanos’ confident preseason trash talk (“Nick Saban can't save them”) and how he validated it on the field. Norvell outlines his philosophy for fostering boldness without sacrificing humility or respect.
“Confidence comes through the work...you better make sure that the actions are what show up.”
— Mike Norvell (06:36)
Program Identity: Norvell emphasizes daily competition — “one-on-one, group-on-group, all eyes on you” — as the team’s foundation.
“Somebody's got to lose...it's how you handle that. That competitive balance—I mean, I'm gonna do whatever it takes to win in this moment...”
— Mike Norvell (07:55)
ACC Pride and Outlook: Discusses the conference’s resurgence, referencing last year’s bowl and playoff numbers, outlining why ACC parity and strength is real this season.
Emotional Aftermath: Norvell describes “gratitude” as his dominant feeling watching fans rush the field; expresses his love for Florida State and awareness of the responsibility to the program’s legacy.
“The energy...on Saturday was truly special...I've got a tremendous responsibility for what I need to do and how I need to be able to lead this program and the example that we've got to set.”
— Mike Norvell (10:51)
Timestamps: 16:44–23:09
Mark Ingram’s Honest Assessment:
“We’re not disciplined, we're soft, we don't have great effort...not running, not stopping the football. These are all things that don't correlate to winning football.”
— Mark Ingram (16:45)
Urban Meyer on Leadership: Calls out the need for “grown ass men in that locker room,” reminisces about his own ‘inflection point’ at Florida following a loss, how toughness, effort, and a full-pads week catalyzed a turnaround.
The Transfer Portal & Locker Room Dynamics: The guys debate whether Alabama has the internal alphas needed to self-correct, noting talent is not the issue.
Alabama’s Path Forward:
“Hey, you will get knocked down in a game of football. It's all about how you respond.”
— Chris Donnan (22:30)
Timestamps: 23:09–27:48
Two New Coordinators, Same Toughness: Urban praises OC Brian Hartline and especially new DC Matt Patricia; lauds defensive discipline and strategic game management.
“Matt Patricia...kept them off guard...my concern not with the Buckeyes. Well, let's give our due to Matt Patricia. He kept them off guard.”
— Urban Meyer (23:44)
QB Julian Sayin’s Poise: Consensus that Sayin was “as advertised,” mistake-free, with maturity beyond his years.
Jeremiah Smith Usage: Rob presses why the offense didn’t target Smith more; Meyer defends the conservative approach for a young QB in a hostile environment.
Timestamps: 28:43–34:13
Urban’s QB Scouting Report:
Team Context: Chris Donnan emphasizes team letdowns (dropped balls, red zone mistakes) underline that it’s not all on Arch; Texas will improve.
Game Management Critique: Meyer and Ingram critique Sarkisian's play calling in the red zone, especially a predictable failed sneak call.
Timestamps: 39:14–47:39
Timestamps: 51:38–68:45
Intense Start to Season: Explains philosophy prepping for early rivalry games and high physicality.
Building Sustainable Success: Urban and Campbell discuss the importance of competition, trust with staff, and the quarterback-coach relationship.
Rocco Becht’s Freedom as Signal Caller:
“He has absolute control of the offense...We put a lot on his plate, and in the critical moments, most importantly, he's a guy that's got the ability to handle the game.”
— Matt Campbell (58:06)
Cyclone Loyalty: Campbell committed to Iowa State due to strong institutional support, family stability, and alignment of values.
Iowa Rivalry Explained:
“Half the state grows up Cyclones, half the state grows up Hawkeyes...makes it unique that you play it so early.”
— Matt Campbell (60:38)
Big 12 in 2025: Experienced QBs, deeper defensive development, tighter margins — “any game can go either way.”
Football Philosophy Shared:
“The minute the word...competition starts to fade in your program, watch out. That's a problem.”
— Urban Meyer on sustaining success (66:50)
Timestamps: 68:47–76:02
Iowa State vs Iowa:
Oklahoma vs Michigan:
Ole Miss @ Kentucky:
“We're not disciplined, we're soft...these are all things that don't correlate to winning football.”
— Mark Ingram on Alabama’s state (16:45)
“I've never seen more pressure on one player in my lifetime [than Arch Manning].”
— Urban Meyer (31:11)
“If the quarterback and the head coach have a very similar mentality and relationship, then it can really dictate the flow of...the locker room.”
— Matt Campbell (58:06)
“Everything's competition. I want competition between the coaches...The minute the word competition starts to fade in your program, watch out.”
— Urban Meyer, on sustaining success (66:50)
“He has absolute control of the offense...in the critical moments, most importantly, he's...able to handle the game.”
— Matt Campbell on QB Rocco Becht (58:06)
A bench-clearing start to the college football season is forcing programs—and coaches—through inflection points. With featured guests offering candor and introspection, “The Triple Option” delivers critical insights into leadership, culture, and the tactical evolution fueling success. Whether analyzing FSU’s grit, Bama’s reckoning, or the high-stakes reality of the modern transfer/NIL/draft-fueled era, the show balances expert breakdowns, real locker-room talk, and moments of levity—both for college football die-hards and curious newcomers.