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Future of Belichick & Dabo, Texas Tech's Joey McGuire Joins, Best Stadiums, & Week 5 Picks
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Future of Belichick & Dabo, Texas Tech's Joey McGuire Joins, Best Stadiums, & Week 5 Picks
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Man, we got a unique group of fans. They found a promo code for Houston tickets, so we're trying to take over that stadium.
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B
Wow, their promo code, huh, Coach?
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A
Yeah, y'. All. I hope so. Cortez is flying, man.
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The Triple option is brought to you by Wendy's. Wake up with Wendy's two for $3 breakfast. Welcome to another edition of the Triple Option. Mark Ingram, always in rhythm. Rob Stone, Urban Meyer. Urban, are you. Is. Is this the background for your new goth podcast that you're debuting next week?
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Where.
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C
Where are you, man?
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D
We'll get into my private time, pal, that's where. We're in Vegas. I'm in Vegas to visit my three grandkids. By the way, my grandson had three touchdowns last night and running Rebels are 40 with another bye week. So life is good in Vegas, man. I'm going to grandson Caesar's tonight for a little dinner. How about that? Caesars tonight for a little dinner. And then my daughter's 35th birthday, she's going to with my. Shelly's taking Nikki to the sphere to a Wizard of Oz or something like that.
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B
Big blessing.
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D
Life's good, man.
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C
Yeah, struggle is real for Coach.
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B
All right.
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C
I'm happy to see that you're happy. Coach.
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D
Why is Mark tired? Mark, your energy level, man. Beating the drums or whatever.
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C
Mark's bang on those red eyes.
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B
I've been taking body shots, boy, but we good. Red eye back. Got me a quick nap.
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D
You red eyed?
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B
Yeah, I had a red eye back.
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Landed at 5:50am and my friend, it's Georgia week. It doesn't matter. Here comes Bama. We got, we got. We got things to do this week.
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Don't worry, I got my energy going to be right.
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I don't worry about you. You got about 10 seconds to boost up your energy. As I start hyping up this week's triple option, we're going to be joined by Texas Tech head coach Joey Maguire. Dabo discussed in how does it end? Our version of game shows for head coaches. We offer our picks on the big three games. This week we go three and out on stadium settings. I've got a curveball for you guys. As always, thanks for joining us here on the triple option rate. Subscribe over at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast as well as across social media. We are at 3x option show new episodes coming your way Every Wednesday on YouTube and wherever it is you find your podcast. Mark, you missed our production call the other day, but Coach right now is asking for producer credits. He's become one of those guys. Right. He's not only just a star, he wants to be a producer. And pretty soon he's dabbling in directing as well. So coach came up with this idea on for part of any given Saturday. All right, you ready for it, Mark?
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Let me, let me hear it, let me hear.
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All right, here's a good one. So I'm going to set the stage for coach's big idea. All right, so last Saturday we saw Indiana Barry Top 10 side Illinois by points. Oh my gosh. Oklahoma escaped with a controversial win over the Barners.
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B
Good.
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Syracuse may have ended Clemson season and it's not even October. Texas Tech again. We're going to talk to their head coach coming up in a moment. Showed that they are probably the front runner in the Big 12.
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B
Yes.
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Yeah. So only really in college coach came up with that? No, no, he's not there yet. Only in college football could we be looking at future ramifications for major programs just four weeks into the season. But here we are, we are asking this question. You ready, Mark? How does it end? This is coaches producing idea.
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Wow.
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Does it crash.
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You better be careful. I know you're watching the show back there behind the scenes.
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Chris still up, the producers back here. You could if, if backstage you can see the sweat trickling down his brow. Hands are nervous. He's going to give it up. So coach came up with how does it end? How does it end for Bill belich? Great question. 73 year old bill Belich being made fun of by Central after Central University of Central Florida took it to the Tar Heels. 2 and 2, 0 and 2 versus the Big 12. 5 year 50 million contract is fully guaranteed for the first three years. If Bill wants to leave, he has to pay a million dollars. How does it end for North Carolina and Bill Belichick, Coach?
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Well, I, first of all, I can't imagine this has anything to do with money. I'm going to throw that right out. I hear people talk about that. I know coach pretty well. We used to spend a lot of time together. So I try to take that out of my even mind. Because you're 73 years old and whether you have 30 million more than what he has, honestly, does it really. I don't know. You know, that's. It wouldn't matter to me. So I came, I became very close with coach Belichick when he was in Florida. He invited me up and he impacted my coaching career as much as anybody. The way he ran practice, the meticulous attention to detail, especially on defense, I went home and we put in drills that I learned that day watching practice. And then also the way I recruited, he impacted like no other coach. How I set a standard. Once I went to the Belichick way of selecting or talent acquisition, we. We made zero, minimal. I shouldn't say zero minimal issues in recruiting. So I'm watching this now and I saw what I saw on the sideline and, you know, I saw John Gruden, what he put out there. And so I. I don't know. It's 70. He's 73.
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C
73.
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D
Saying that. And he. He's a good, good 73, but it's 73. And I just. Before we watch this, I wanted to go discuss this. I want. I wanted to do a little homework and I watched their videotape or, you know, some tape on it. They're worse on tape than I thought they would be. And I'm not saying just, you know, because you can say, well, we have really bad players. Okay, you brought in 70 new people. Right. But I'm seeing things that just, you know, just misfits on defense, which. Which for the listener, that means the. They're not. If, as a linebacker takes on a block, he's supposed to send that to the unblocked safety with it. So if the safety is inside, I'm taking on the blocker with my inside shoulder to force it to him. It's not happening. And then on the offensive side, it's a train wreck. So. So I. I don't know. I don't think it ends well. Hate to say that.
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C
How long is this?
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This is not a money deal to me, though. This has not. When you start saying 10 million. Okay, what's. Yeah, taxes. This, this, this. Am I really doing this for that? And I don't.
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Money's going to be a factor for some of these other programs we're going to talk about, but I agree with you. Not Chapel Hill. So, coach, I mean, he's going to get through this year, right?
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D
Yeah, right. I would say.
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I would think one more year at least.
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D
Yeah, sure. It's up to him first. It's up to him. North Carolina is not going to fire.
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Bill Belichick, by the way. Is North Carolina better with Bill Belichick than they were with Mack Brown? I can answer that for you. No, no, no chance. They're worse. They're a laughing stock. They might have won the press conference, but right now they are a joke. They're a meme.
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Actually.
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It breaks my heart to think about.
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What was going on. It's awful, it's sad. And then there's this. There's the video of his girlfriend Jordan talking to him pregame on the field. And part of me wants to accept it, but part of me finds it completely unacceptable, particularly with the credentials that this gentleman has accrued through his years, to have. Again, just the dichotomy of the image of this, this young lady and the boots and nestling right up like she's giving him defensive advice or well wishes or like, let's go get him, honey, I believe in you. All of it just didn't feel very footbally. It felt very odd. He just doesn't seem to be comfortable in his own skin anymore, which is really problematic. And this is not what Carolina signed up for.
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How's it end, Chance? How's it end?
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I think, I think it's two years and it's done. And then I, you know, there's been those conversations that he's going to hand it over to his son. And I think Carolina people are going to be like, well, wait, that's not really what we want either, like this. So guess what, Guess where they're going to be in two years. Starting from scratch, starting all over when they should have like gone after a signetti or something like that.
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B
At the end of the day, man, Bill was great because he established a culture. And right now in North Carolina, there is no culture.
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C
Correct.
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He got 70 new people, whatever that crazy roster turnover is.
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And, and it's only four games. That type of turnover does take time, Mark. Like, I, I understand, but you have.
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You have to identify the type of person that fits your culture, the type of person that fits your program. Now, I do trust Bill as a talent evaluator. I do trust Bill as a great head coach because that's what he has been throughout the years. But this is a new day and age in college football and you have to be able to develop a culture. And, and I think that will take more than one year through 70, you know, new players, of transfers in, you know, in the portal. So I think it takes him another year. We'll see how he feels after another year for sure. But.
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Well, let's see how he feels after this year.
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I don't think he's going to feel great. I don't think he's going to feel great after this year. You just went to UCF, who allegedly is the worst team in the Big 12. Allegedly. And they just, just boat raced you. So.
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And by the way, by the way, Mark Fox wanted To be at that game. Right. If you had talked to us and our executives in June, July, early August, week four. Yeah. You know where big dune kickoff is going? You're going to Orlando because we're going to get a piece of that, that Belichick.
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Well, everybody antennas went up after week one.
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How's it end, Mark?
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They went up and they went down.
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Yes.
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And by the way, you know who's next for North Carolina? They have a bi week and then it's Clemson. A lot of people had that week in Chapel Hill Circle. Oh, Carolina and Clemson, the two highest paid coaches in the acc. That's where you know all the ludicrous is going to be there, for crying out loud. And instead it's a ludicrous setting in in Chapel Hill. Coach, I think, I think it ends in two years. I think he's got two seasons and he's done. That's my guess.
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I think Bill gonna try and give it a shot. I think he gonna try to get some of his culture in there. I think, I think it's two, three years and then I really think after a math major.
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But he'll be 75 and then 76.
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If they not on the brink of a playoff team next season in year two. He, he, he's just gonna hang it up and, and go fishing, you know.
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Yeah.
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Be golfing with coach Meyer.
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There we go. There we go. All right, so it's not all bad situations, right. How about two guys that are currently crushing it? Crushing it. And two of our favorites up at Syracuse, Fran Brown, year two, 43 years old, went 10 and three last year, off to a three and one start, which includes that win at Clemson last week. And that was after he made his team run those post game wind sprints. Buyout to take another job. Not publicly available. Member former DB coach at Georgia. Also has time. He's from Camden, New Jersey. Has a lot of time at Temple, Baylor and Rutgers. Another guy who's crushing it, Kurt Signetti at Indiana, second year, 64 years old, four no start. Lost to Notre Dame in round one of the college football playoffs last year. So they finished 11 and 2. His buyout, 13 million to leave before December of 2025 and then drops by 3 million a year annually. Indiana, by the way, this week up eight spots to number 11. So we've got two guys that are crushing it, but they're two guys, you know, that are separated by 21 years. I think these stories end differently. So coach, I'll start with you and then Mark, I'll Go to, you'll go to Signetti. Coach, how does the Fran Brown situation end?
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D
I think Fran Brown's the hottest coach in college sports. I think he, the way he handles his business. I was watching how it's, you know, a big part of the college world is making sure that these guys are set up for life after sport, which is a big part of what we did at Ohio State and Florida. I watched what he's doing. He's all in on these players. He's rugged, he's tough, he's, he's, you know, he says some things that you're like, damn, he really said that. And he, you know, wind sprints after. So he's doing his own little thing, but his thing's working. And I like, I like his presentation. I like the way he looks, I like the way he talks. I like everything about it. If I'm an athletic director, I'm all over that one. 100, all over that one. I actually went watch videotape too, some tape on that, Mark. Really good.
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You talk about Fran Brown. We just, we just talked about the importance of culture and he's establishing the culture that he wants and the type of player that he wants in his program. And so he has Syracuse, you know, playing at a high level and it's basically the culture he has established. What's not acceptable is you not giving your best and max effort because you will run after the game. What's not acceptable is, is you coming in here asking for money and, and, and saying that you going to go somewhere else. That's not acceptable. We want the players who want to be here. We want the players who want to be great. We want players who want to be great men off the field as well. So he's established a tremendous culture and Coach Franz is one of the top young and up and coming coaches in the college football realm for sure.
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All right, so how does it end for Fran Brown?
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I'll say job.
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Enjoy him while you got him. Syracuse bigger job. Enjoy them. Well, you got him. All right, now for Coach Signetti. Yeah, a whole different one down in Bloomington. Mark, I'll start with you. How does it end for Coach Signetti in Bloomington?
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Well, I think it would have to be the right gig for him to ever want to leave Indiana. I think he has a great setup there. I think he's kind of comfortable in Indiana. He's a great talent evaluator. He's a great quarterback evaluator. He knows how to motivate his team to play hard for him and I think he has kind of a good situation there in Indiana. We talked to him last year about his, you know, situation in Indiana, how he has like some control over the, over the program and all of that. So I think he's happy right there in Bloomington. I think it would take the right head coaching job for him to leave. I don't think he's just leaving for any job. Would have to be one of those blue bloods that come in and pay him handsomely and give him that control that he, you know, that he likes. But cursing. Natty's just doing a great job in Indiana. Turned them around, made the playoff last year in the first year and he's on his way to do it again right here in the second season. So I think how it ends for him is he doesn't leave unless it's one of them premier blue bloods that come swoop in and give him a handsome compensation for what he's done in Indiana.
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You agree, Coach?
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I think he stays. I think he turns Indiana. It's incredible to say this to a playoff team every year. Maybe not make it, but they're in the conversation, you know, I see, I think it says $13 million to leave. And again, now this just comes from an assistant athletic director at a blue blood school that is going through it a little bit, told me that they have no money, there's no longer money in college football. And I'm like, shut up. What are you talking about? He said, you can't to fire a coach and they hire someone to pay a $13 million buyout. I mean, I don't think he can do it. I don't. You know, money, the thing we have to understand to get your mind right. And I lived in this world, there's always a budget, but there really wasn't. Wasn't. You could really work things. And you know, this Coach had a $400,000 about this. And I remember dealing with all that. Now all of a sudden they come to you and there's, there's a spreadsheet and it's called revenue and expenses. And when the expenses are far more, are far greater than revenue. Once again, I'm not a math major or a business guy, but what the shit. I mean, you got a problem and I don't, I don't know if that. I don't.
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But his is 13 million. He's not leaving before December 25th. So it would be 10 million. And then. So unless one of them, if somebody wanted him, they would go pay 10 million or 7 million, whatever.
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So I. I get it. But it's not what they're paying. They're going to pay $60 million probably or something. 50 million. Because they have to buy out the coach they're firing. And the buyout the entire coaching staff.
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The what if it's a vacant coach you have.
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You know, there's no such thing, is there?
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Well, I. I think. I think Signetti is good in Bloomington. Don't mess with Happy. Right, Coach? That's one of the things I've learned the last couple of years hanging out with you and other coaches. Don't mess with Happy. If it's working, it's working. And he seems to have the formula at Indiana. I think Coach Signetti stays and he's still got the zingers. Right. Remember at the press conference when he got introduced? Google me. Right? I win. Last week when they beat up on Illinois, I thought our DL could whip their ol. And we did. And then we broke their will and just pounded them.
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Jeez. And then I went and watched the film.
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Yeah.
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Remember I told you about North Carolina? It's the opposite. North. Correct. The run shits are perfect. The blocking schemes are perfect.
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Well coached.
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There's never an unblocked defender in the hole when you're running the ball. They're not running into bad leverage looks. All the coaching things that his staff is really good. Light it.
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Okay, so how about this coach? We go back to guys on the struggle bus. Coach Signetti goes in conference to Wisconsin to take over for Luke Fickle. How do things end for Luke Fickle at Wisconsin and Billy Napier in Florida. Coach Fickle, 52 years old, third year. The numbers have gone down. Started 7 and 6, then went 5 and 7 last year. Right now 2 and 2 with losses to good teams by the way to Alabama. At Alabama at a Maryland team that people aren't talking about. But he's got five current ranked teams left on his schedule. At Michigan, Ohio State, at Oregon, at Indiana, Illinois. That doesn't even include Washington and Minnesota. So just a brutal schedule coming up for Luke Fickle, the badgers, his buyout, $25.4 million. And then Billy Napier, fourth year, 6 and 7, 5 and 7, 8 and 5 is how he started this year. He's 1 and 3. Still has Texas, Texas A and M, an improved Mississippi State, Georgia at Kentucky at Ole Miss, Tennessee, Florida State. Brutal, brutal, brutal, brutal schedule. His buyout 21.7 mil. So how do we see things ending, coach for Luke Fickle at Wisconsin, then Billy Napier at Florida?
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D
Well, the first is close to my heart. Luke was on my staff for several years and one of the best football coaches ever been around. Great family, great everything. I was a little worried when he first went there because Wisconsin is not the same job it was before the four teams from the Pac 12 came in. You know, that was. And then they moved the west division to. Now it's just the best two. Wisconsin was a very good job, is a very good job, but it's not the same job. And as a result, I think they're in trouble. You know, I think I watched them play. I just don't see any. Remember we did their game last year against Alabama and I stood on the field and I just, they, they always had a Novin Gordon or a explosive player that, you know, you took your breath away a little bit sometimes. They had two. I remember playing when they had Jonathan Taylor and Melvin Gordon and they would do the fly series with Melvin Gordon and then they had the downhill with.
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C
Jonathan Taylor and what were those dudes running behind?
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D
Oh, yeah, monsters. I mean, one of the best offensive lines in college football. So. So I'm worried about this one. But I'll say this again. Wisconsin doesn't have that money. There's no chance or there's no chance. They're writing a check for $25 million. It's not happening this year.
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C
So I feel like they lost their identity, tried to become something they weren't. You know, they, they wanted to be a flashy offense, right, Mark? But when you're Wisconsin, like, do what you do, right? Like give me a br. Give me a beer, give me some cheese. Okay, Wisconsin, you nail these things. You nail them. So you know what, to your point, coach, give me, give me, give me a three star, four star tailback that maybe people aren't talking about.
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D
How's it end, Rob?
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C
And give me big beefy dudes. It's going to end.
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D
Topic is how's it end?
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C
I think it's going to end okay for Coach Fickle. I believe in this one. Partly because of the money, partly Because I think he's going to get back to what made Wisconsin good. And number three, these, these injuries that keep happening to their quarterbacks right early in the season, whatnot. It's got to end, it's got to stop. That's what's putting them behind the eight ball immediately is, is. Listen, their, their quarterback play was always kind of okay, right? Just okay. But when you go from okay to less than okay, you're in big trouble in the Big Ten. I think there's a little bit more patience for Coach Fickle than there is maybe for Coach Napier right now in Gainesville.
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Yeah, I mean, when you talk about what Florida is and with the standard at Florida, just a matter of time here, you know, he kind of got the team back playing hard for him last year and.
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C
Yeah, I agree.
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But you know, and they played hard last week as well. Some things are out of your control. You know, I think he's a good coach. I think sometimes the, the results doesn't always, you know, lie on the coach. The players have to play too. But at the end of the day, Florida ain't trying to hear none of that. And I know it's a big buyout, but Florida's one of them programs, man. They, they, they want to win, they want results, and that's a results or event. Coach knows. Coach was the coach down there in, down there in the Swamp. And, and they want results down there. They want championships, they want wins, they want to be able to compete for the playoffs. I want to be able to compete for championships. And right now that's not the case. So I don't know how they going to do it.
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Coach spoiled them, Mark. That's what it is.
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They did. It ain't been right since. Ain't been right since.
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C
Wait, why is that a tough job, Coach? Because I would say, look, the, the facilities to me seem okay. At least the stadium, the Swamp, whatever it is, the facilities, not Ray plus are what now A plus?
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D
Yeah, they're one of the best things. They redo them all.
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So the environment at the Swamp, hard to find anything better in college football that recruiting, that recruiting swath of territory seems like a no brainer. So why is that a tough job?
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D
Well, it's a tough job, but a great job. I mean, Ohio State's a tough job, Alabama's a tough job. Just the expectations are, you know, unrealistic. But, but they've also been tamped.
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C
Welcome to college football.
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D
You know what the expectation was, Mark? National championship.
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B
Yes.
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That's not it anymore. Florida Right now. Ah, no, it's just not. It's. Let's get to the SEC championship game, which, by the way, I picked Florida. The way they finished, the quarterback talent they had, the players were fighting for their coach. It's not turned out, but it's also. If they started with Penn State schedule, right now, everybody be saying, man, Florida's doing great, that they did it. They didn't have that luxury. And it gets even worse. So Billy Napier, in a. In a firestorm, how's it end again? I don't see him making the change right now with 21 million just. And that's going on pretty well documented conversation with people throughout the country that there's once again, where does it go? Where. Where are you getting that money from? Because the money's already distributed. There's.
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Everybody stays. So everybody stays because you can't pay. That's. That's how the segment ends.
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That's.
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That's the new. That's the new Norman, right?
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You can't pay the buyout, so everyone stays. You. You commit.
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Sit there and eat it, man. Hey, you made the high.
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How's it in, Mark?
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Hey, they can't pay his buyout, man. It's well documented by, you know, you. The. You was the man at Florida, so who am I to argue? Sho. You said it's well documented. So Billy Napier staying in Florida.
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You know what's interesting, Mark, is, is how he brought that program back last season, right? Like just the. The. The woeful start, but he didn't lose the locker room, and we all felt it. He had to feel it. Like, you know what? I. I can. I can win here. But the fact that he's being asked to do that two years in a row, like, that's not a story that we want retold. If you're, if you're a fan of the Gators, I've been here. I've done that already.
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They're 20 and 22, losing a record.
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No bueno. Speaking of no bueno, when we started this, this second year here on the triple option, one of the programs, we thought that was a legit, legit national title contender with a Heisman Trophy quarterback at the helm was Clemson Dabo. Oh, boy, oh, boy. It has been tough sledding.
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How dare. Dabo.
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Dabo. Dabo. You're talking Dave Portnoy and how he pronounces Dabo Sweeney. So let's hear from coach. We're going to sound off. This is Dabo Sweeney after losing at home to Syracuse on Saturday.
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Disappointed.
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Painful. Hurt.
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B
I mean, I'm human.
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I mean, I'm not a, I'm not a cyborg. I mean, this is, this is my life, man. I mean, I've been here 23 years. I love this place. I mean, I give this place the.
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Very best I got every single day.
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Every day. There's never been a day that I.
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Haven'T given Clemson every ounce of everything I have.
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I hurt. I mean, I'm, I've invested my life.
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Here and when I don't get the.
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Job done, I'm responsible and I feel the pain. You know, it's not just my pain. I feel everybody's pain and you know, but that comes with my job and.
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I don't run from that at all.
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Remember last week, heading into that game, it was a more positive, upbeat, fiery Dabo Sweeney. Right. Like all I do, you know, I win, I win. I'm sorry. I've won eight of the last 10 ACC championships. That's not enough for you guys. Look at all these national titles. That's not enough for you guys. Yeah. How it, how it went down at home. And again there was that long weather delay as well, and it didn't provide a bounce back opportunity for Clemson and, and that there was an image on the field when the, I think it was the alma mater was playing where it looked like he was wiping away a tear and his team is, you know, around him. Like this hurts. This is, this is personal. Nine NCAA champ or nine ACC championships, two national titles. Pres. In number four. And here they are at one and three after losses to a good LSU team, an underrated Georgia Tech team, and a Syracuse team that is on the rise. Their schedule coming up is awfully manageable. I'm looking at it right now. There's maybe only one game, Florida State, that they, that they won't be favored.
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D
Right.
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C
I believe in Dabo. I don't think he's going anywhere. I think this is just a little bump and I think he needs to be a little more attack oriented in the transfer portal, which by his standards, Mark, he was last year. I think he brought in like four guys, but things needed, things need to change. But my book, he ain't going anywhere.
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B
Yeah, Dabo's not going anywhere, man.
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D
Yeah, Dabo goes when Dabo wants to go. That one's a done deal. And I think he'll adapt a little bit. He's a smart guy or at some point. Well, he's made the comment that he, he's going to coach for a long you know, at some point, why won't you go enjoy your life a little bit, you know, so I don't know that dabble goes when he, they're not going to let him go.
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C
Yeah, agree, Mark.
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B
Yep.
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C
Basically that was. How does it end? I can't wait for coach's next segment that he's going to produce next week. Coach start, start working over there. Your cemetery basement Rothsceller down there. I don't know where you're set up. All right, time now for the deuce Deuce Dog of the week. Mark, your top player from last week. Oh, let's go to Southern Cal, shall we?
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Southern Cal. Man, USC is balling right now. They are on a win streak and has to do a lot with they quarterback. Man, they quarterback is a beast. Mayava, he is a beast, man. He's very comfortable in this offense. He is wheeling, he is dealing. They had their first, you know, kind of test this season.
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C
Michigan State's better than. Yeah, most people agree.
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Yeah.
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They took care of Michigan State at.
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B
Home 45:31 Saturday night. Yep. And he went 20 for 26 with three touchdown, added two more rush touchdowns, five total touchdowns. And for the season he's just been terrific. Probably one of the best statistically, I think one of the best statistical quarterbacks in the country. We'll see him up close and in person. This week we go to Champaign watching him take on Illinois who just got curb stomped. So hopefully they will be motivated. But my Alva man, he is a, he's a beast. I'm looking forward to watching him.
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13 total touchdowns, no interceptions. He leads the nation with 14.1 yards per pass attempt. Former UNLV guy. So he feels, and he sounds like a good fit for what Lincoln Riley has been wanting at that quarterback position. I mean we know Caleb won the Heisman, but maybe he wasn't a Lincoln guy the way he, he played. Maybe out of the system. But that was your fresh take of the week. Presented by Wendy's. Wake up with Wendy's breakfast. We want to note that we recorded this episode just literally moments before the firing of Mike Gundy at Oklahoma State. Coming up next year though, on the triple option, we're joined by the head coach of the 12th ranked Red Raiders from Texas Tech, Joey McGuire.
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All protected with end to end encryption. It's time for WhatsApp message privately with everyone. Learn more@WhatsApp.com welcome back to the Triple Option. Rob Stone, Urban Meyer and Deuce Deuce Mark Ingram here with you, we're joined by the head coach of Texas Tech, Joey McGuire. Coach A thank you for joining us. B Congrats on Saturday's big win at Utah. This is your second time on the triple option and when you joined us in the off season, you asked a question to the guys and they responded. How did you use those responses?
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A
Yeah man, I'm going to tell you what first thanks for having me. But you all deserve a lot of credit for Saturday, too, because whenever I left, I've talked to my. My leadership council and I told him exactly what you all said. You know, Mark started off with talking about how the. It was a player run team and we talk about it, but you've got to have some alpha dogs in there that aren't afraid to voice their opinion. And Skyler, Gil Howard, man, I could send it to y', all, but he stood up in front of the team the first day of camp and he said, the players run this locker room. If there's anything that coach needs, he's going to tell me and we're going to get it done. He said, we cannot be scared, so.
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D
Hold each other accountable.
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A
And, man, he's. He's an alpha.
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C
God.
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Y' all saw him, man, number zero. He is a dude.
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B
Let's go, Coach.
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A
You know, I asked coach and he said his teams played best when they were pissed off. And so, man, I pissed our guys off on Saturday. There might have been some things made up a little bit. He said that. Don't be scared of that. And so y' all deserve a lot of credit, too, of the way we played.
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B
Coach, man, y' all balled out. You got a real football team down there in Lubbock, man. And we're happy that for your success. We happy to see your continued success. And we're happy that you got some alpha dogs and you pissing them boys off because they played like it, too.
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D
Hey, I'm gonna go on record a pissed off alpha dog. That's a hard one to stop.
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B
Yeah, it is.
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D
Yeah.
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A
Yes, sir.
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D
Hey, let me. Let me start here, Coach first. Thanks. And. And we've covered Iowa State. I've covered Utah. Now we covered you and your team. You know, I fell in love with Texas Tech last year down. I've never been to Lubbock and I never met you. And I just. The energy, the crowd, the way you played, I think it's a gold mine. And we're finding out it is. So I picked Utah in the game. And I don't care if Utah was playing the Kansas City Chiefs. Because of my ties with Utah, I was going to pick them. And your fans were. I mean, it was in a friendly way. They were killing me. So I'm going to say this, that I stood next to Iowa State. Heck of a team, Utah. Heck of a team. I still, I on purpose, and I always like to do that. I went and stood next to your group on the sideline you can say what you want about Ohio State in Penn State and, and, you know, whoever, you know, lsu. Who else is up there? Oregon. I stood and I stood next to Oregon. Great job putting a team together. That is a good looking, fast, high cut, skinny ankle, veined up looking team, man. Yeah, those guys.
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B
What does skinny ankles have to do with it, Coach?
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D
That means they can run like hell. Med to stay away from the fat ankles, Mark.
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B
Yeah, the cankles looking at my ankle.
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A
Coach, first of all, I expect you to pick Utah. I mean, one, congratulations. That was really cool, the presentation, you going into the hall of Fame and that. That's awesome and much deserved. But I'll tell you, we were geared up for the game. We really were. We knew that that was going to be a big, huge game. We knew how good Utah was, and it was kind of a measuring stick of exactly where we were as a program. And I still. And the players more than anything say this to me. We talk about, man, we've got another gear. And I said that. And two or three of them said, coach, no. Like, Cole was Neski, our safety. He's like, coach, we got more than another gear. We got two or three gears that we could play better. And, you know, the big part right now is, is just cleaning up the penalties, man, that was a louder stadium than I expected. I called a lot of people about it and they didn't tell me exactly how loud that place was going to be.
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B
Yeah, coach, man, y', all, man, I, I'm, I was like, coach, man, listen, I, I saw y' all on tape. I believed in y'.
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All.
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I'm like, I need to see it. I need to see it.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And that D line was ferocious. They set the line of scrimmage. They were getting turnovers. They were opportunistic. That O line, y' all ran the ball efficiently and effectively. I'm like, okay, this Texas Tech team is for real. But no, I want to talk about your quarterbacks, man. We know Baron Morton, he had a great start to the year. He had to leave with an injury. But then you had your young quarterback, Will Hammond come in and he put some life into this offense, man, with his running ability, with his decision making. First, any update on Baron Morton? How's our guy doing? And how impressed were you with Will Hammond?
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Yeah, he. Baron's doing great. You know, he was in there this morning. I mean, if we played Saturday, he's ready to go. I mean, we practiced today, so he'll do a seven on seven. It's going to be a short practice for the older guys and then we'll get a bunch of scrimmage reps with the young guys. But I'm going to tell you, man, I was not surprised with Will Hammond. One Baron had shoulder surgery so everybody's like, hey, how is the chemistry with Will Hammond coming in? He took every single number first team reps this spring with that group that was out there. So it was, it was nothing to him. And then he's a different kid, man. He's, he, he's, he's kind of got a little nerdy to him that people gravitate to. He's very, he's a lot more serious than what an 18 or 19 year old kid is. What I was really impressed though. His Entire family are BYU grads and he had probably 40 family members at the game. They've got a lot of people that live in Utah. And how Utah or BYU let him come to Texas Tech I do not know because he's got a really strong Mormon faith and I'm glad they didn't recruit him hard because man, I'm glad he's a Red Raider, but the kid is really, really special. And I heard Joey Galloway, Galloway say something and I understand it, he didn't say anything wrong. But don't worry, we have a two year contract with Will Hammond. So anybody that wants to try to come get him, he's already under contract for next year.
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B
I know that's right because he's a baller coach.
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D
So I want to, I want to hit you with something here, coach. I'm just reading that BYU is the only ranked team left on your schedule. So I'm going to set this up. So when I was at Utah, I tried to, you know, once again piss off a team. How do you do that? I would, you know, Trev Alberts, the ad, he was a commentator at the time, came out, said they don't belong. And I, I mean you can imagine I just milked that. Oh yeah, for 12 weeks. I mean every day, every day practice I see you guys ain't worth a shit. You don't belong at this level. And I just pissed off the players. So, so I would ever, I would start once we, you know, my second year when I knew we were good is I would start the meetings that Monday or Sunday meeting and I would show a team ranked higher than us. And once again I said, made sure it's confidential and I'd say, look at this shit. You told me that we can't, we're not better than this team. And when I was at Ohio State was a whole different animal. I would focus on one step at a time because you're already told how great you are. So I'm curious where, you know, you are starting to get the respect you deserve. Last year you did not.
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Right.
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You know, now all of a sudden people are starting to talk about Texas Tech the way they should talk about. Have you thought about these next? Once again, getting in the mind of a 17, 18, 19 year old, is it to piss them off or are you just one step at a time?
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It's going to be a little bit of both. You know, this, this Houston game is going to be big, especially if they take care of business. On Friday we'll have two undefeated teams. I'm hoping they get in the top 25. I mean, they should. Willie Fritz is an absolute stud and all he has done is turn programs around. But it'll be a mixture of both. It, you know, like right now around the building we have one and oh, and we usually have the logo marked through of who we were playing. And we're right now, this week with a bye week is one. And oh, and it just says us, you know, and we got to focus on ourselves and us getting better. But I'll have a mixture of going 1 and O against Houston, but I'll find something that somebody's put out or I'll make something up to really piss them off, you know, because I totally agree. And you know what's funny is like different teams respond to different things. Coach. This team responds to being pissed off. And it starts with that defensive line. It starts with Skyler and AJ and, and Lee Hunter and Romello Height and David Bailey. Those guys really respond to that. And, and so it's good to have that know that we could push that button.
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C
Coach, last year there was a lot of talk about Ohio State and all the money they spent and it was kind of this championship or bust mentality or at least the conversation that was out there in the national with the national writers or the media, whoever is covering college football. Obviously there's a lot of attention at the money that has come into Texas Tech for this season and for next season as well for sure. And obviously for the, the foreseeable future. However, I feel like, and this may not be the right word, but I feel like the last couple of days you've been slightly defensive about that narrative that that's coming out about Texas Tech, that they're just buying their way into the College Football playoff picture. Am I reading that right? And what is your. Your take on this, this. This wonderful setup that you now have in. In Lubbock? I think a lot of people are just downright jealous about it, to be honest.
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B
They hate and coach.
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A
Yeah. You know, and it's funny because there's not a coach out there that, whether it's a fan base or coaches or administration that talk about it, but they wouldn't trade places in a second. Whenever you have the support we have that. That's number one. But some of it a little bit the. You're right. Of being defensive, but the defensive part is to kind of push the buttons of our players because they see the building as this. Just. They're so happy to, to be a part of this. Jacob Rodriguez in the post game, you know, talk about coming in the building and how happy he is every single day to be a part of this. And so I'm kind of pushing that button of like, well, everybody else says you're only here because of the money, you know, and. But I think, yeah, I know the team that we just got to pay and is paying for paying those two tackles a whole lot of money, and they're paying that quarterback a whole lot of money. You know, I mean, it's going to be the same thing every single week of the teams that we're playing. They're going to have guys on their. Their team. There are getting paid a whole lot of money. We just happen to have a lot more players that are getting paid overall with the kids that we brought in, but also the kids that we retained, Jacob Rodriguez, Baron Morton, Ben Roberts, John Curry, a bunch of guys like that, you know, that are Red Raiders from the beginning.
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B
Coach, man, just kudos to you because you guys are paying the right players, because a lot of programs pay the wrong players and you end up on the wrong side of things if you pay the wrong players. So you're being a talent evaluator and a player developer shout out to you because you know what you're doing with your resources. But now, coach, I got you. One second, one second. Coach Meyer, man, you know, I'm a big fan of running backs. You had Taj Brooks last year. Your son Garrett is the running backs coach. Cameron Dickey, Jacoby Williams, they were toting that rock. What is it like to be coaching with your family but also have a really damn good running backs coach for your son as well?
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Yeah, it's huge. Mom was really happy. I know that, you know, my daughter. It's crazy. I'm a Texan. I've never been anywhere else. And I've got a daughter that's a fashion designer in Manhattan, New York. And then my son was with the Carolina Panthers and then with the Nebraska Cornhuskers, and she was like, could you please just bring one of our babies home? And I was like, well, it's probably going to be easier to get Garrett back than Reagan. And so it worked out perfect. And, man, he's. He's really intelligent. He's a connector, you know, I mean, he's one of those guys that can really. He believes in relationships, and, man, he's got a great relationship in that room with those guys. And we're talented. We knew we were. We knew we were young, but we knew we had a really talented group in that room. And they're. Those two are a great combination. I mean, it's almost like a one's 185 and one's 215. It's kind of a. Under. Enlightening. Yeah, but under can run, too, man. I mean, he's got some great speed and Cam Dickey, but they're. They're both really tough, strong kids. And, man, they are. They have got great personalities. They are easy to. To be around because they love football.
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B
That's awesome.
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D
My last question, Coach, is that. Are you handling the gm? I know you probably have a GM or a player personnel, or is that somewhere sitting on your desk right now? I used to. Do you know, all that crap you have to deal with daily? Is it. Are you just saying you handle it? I'm going to coach the team, or you. Are you handling both?
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No, I have a gm. His name's James Blanchard. One of the biggest. Like, people talk about a roster. We brought in two brand new coordinators that we hit home runs with. But I was able to keep my GM from going to Notre Dame and USC the year before. So. James Blanchard. So whenever I got the job, it was me, my wife, and James Blanchard on Cody Campbell's plane coming out here for the press conference conference. And James was. We were at Baylor together. He was a scout in the NFL for the Carolina Panthers, and he handles that. We meet, you know, like we met earlier last week and earlier this week, just about numbers and how many high school players we're going to take and then what does it look like, you know, what do we need in the portal, you know, in January, and just different stuff like that, but he handles it. The number one thing coach that he handles, though, that helps me is I'm not in the room Negotiating money, which is a good thing for me because I'm a very emotional person and it's never going to end in a good way if I'm in that room. So I still get to keep the purity of the coach player relationship and I don't have to be in that negotiation. So. So, James. And we've got a personnel department and my chief of staff helps, so we've got a group of six that handle all of that.
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Coach McGuire, continue to enjoy your bye week after that. Seven straight Big 12 contests, four of them home and one of them the next one at Houston, where apparently there'll be a lot of Red Raiders in attendance. Joey McGuire, head coach at Texas Tech. Always great to catch up with you, coach. Thank you.
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Thank you, man.
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Bang, bang, bang. Welcome.
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We welcome you back to the triple option, presented by Wendy's Rob Urban. Mark, back here with you. Time to go through three and out. We were in Salt Lake City last week for Utah, Texas Tech. A homecoming for you, coach. Embraced with open arms by the you. What a great crowd that was. Forced Texas Tech inside the stadium into seven false starts. That's the mus. That's typical MUS activity. Right. For you. The mighty Utah student section. So that got us on this wavelength of what are the three toughest stadiums to play in? And I know a lot of it is kind of circumstantial whatnot, but coach, we start with you. Three toughest stadiums to play in.
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Yeah. Quick honorable mentions and it's a Utah and then Auburn, Alabama, which it's hard to imagine those guys are honorable mentions. Virginia Tech and South Carolina. But the three toughest, number one in order is Penn State. Whiteout number one. They, they. They choreographed with the students.
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The Whiteout happening this weekend with Oregon.
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It's ridiculous. And we'll get to that game in a minute. I think it's a seven point flip with a veteran team. It's a seven point flip with a. With a young team. More than that. That's how big it is. Second, I'm going to go swamp. I've never been there as a visitor, but I've been there as a home team. When we were cooking a night game against lsu. I remember is the loudest I've ever heard. And it's. I would tell people it was a jet engine right behind me. I felt it. My. My clothes would be shaking. The swamp. And then the second, the third one is LSU at night when. Mark. What do they do that tiger again? They poke it or something?
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B
Yeah, yeah. They get them round up hitting the fence.
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So those are my three in order. Penn State, white out Swamp and lsu.
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Yeah.
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All right, Mark, your three toughest stadiums.
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B
Yeah, I'm gonna recycle one from coach. Obviously. LSU at night, I think that place right there, especially when LSU is, is lsu. When LSU is good. That place at night is bonkers. They suck that tight. No, they be going crazy. They be going crazy. If you know, you know, I know.
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I'm talking about.
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If you know, you know, you know.
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What I'm talking about. Yeah. Then like you said, man, it's all circumstantial. Went to play South Carolina and they stuck their foot cleaning our ass. Shin. Too stoner.
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They got the shin up there.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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B
They, they, they, they, they, they curved us and hits. And that place was. They blew the, they blew the top off of that place, man.
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D
Maybe most underrated stadium in college football, Mark.
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B
I would say so. I would say so. Especially when South Carolina is playing good football. Now, obviously when teams aren't doing well, the stadium isn't what it's supposed to be. But South Carolina right now, they're back. Lenore Sellers, you know that, that place is a tough place to play. Especially when we went, there's no more team in the country and they beat us. That place, they blew the top off of that place. And then, you know, you, if, if I'm gonna do my own stadium, you know, Brian Denny. There's nothing like Brian Denny at a night game, especially with the 18 time national champions, you know what I mean? But if I'm gonna exclude my own stadium, I'll say, I'll say Neland. I'll say Neyland Stadium, Tennessee. That ugly orange and all those annoying people. Yeah, I'll say kneeling.
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C
All right, so I'm going to twist mine up. I'm going to hit the three other sports that I cover. Coach, producer, Urban. You know the three other sports I cover. Right.
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D
Soccer and bowling.
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C
Yeah. And college basketball. College basketball. All right, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna go with there. So number one Mark will appreciate this one coach will eventually come around to it. Azteca Stadium in Mexico City. 7,200ft above sea level. Seats 87 and a half thousand.
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B
It is situated in between the mountains, Right.
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C
In Latin America. And the cool part about it is they essentially had to build a moat between the stadium seating and the field. So in case people stormed it and rushed it, they would have to climb over a fence and then get dropped into a moat. And then they have to climb out of the moat and go over another fence to get onto the field. So I think whenever there's a moat involved in a stadium, you're talking next level. You're talking hardcore intimidation. Let's go. College basketball as a Tar Heel. This pains me. Cameron Indoor Stadium.
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D
Never been there.
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C
I haven't either. But I've. I've seen it. I felt it. I've heard the stories. 9,300 fans. Those. Cameron crazy is like right on you. Those images, right, Coach? It literally looks like they're doing the. The hand waving like inches from your skull. And when that place is going, you can feel it, you can hear it. I just can't even imagine how challenging of an environment that must be if you're on the other side, particularly if that other side is North Carolina and Duke has it going. And number three. So what's the. What's the one sport I haven't hit yet?
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B
Coach, wait. Bowling.
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C
Bowling.
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D
Stop.
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C
I'm going bowling. I had to. I had to. Riviera Lanes, Fair Lawn, Ohio, just outside Akron. Home typically of the legendary toc, the Tournament of Champions. Standing room only in that facility. Rumors of payoffs to fire marshals. It is the Madison Square Garden of bowling. If you guys are ever in the greater Akron area, let me take you to Riviera Lanes.
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B
It'd be jumping like that.
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C
The. The. The place gets going, man. Old school, a lot of wood. Just the crowd just goes back, back, back. Like you can't even see. Like I don't even know what they're looking at. They're so far back. Pretty cool. Pretty cool environment for any sport. All right. Hey, you know what we want? We want more comments. We want to encourage you to fire up some comments. Tell us who has the best list. Tell us who got it right about the stadiums. Tell. Tell me how right I got it about Azteca and amf. Riviera Lanes and Fairlawn. We'd love to have your comments and we will start featuring them more and more. Time now for Two Minute Drill brought to you by FanDuel. Visit FanDuel.com triple option to download the app and take advantage of a 50% profit boost today. All right, I'm going to start things off, guys with the ranked game where big noon kickoff will be this week. Number 21, USC 4. And oh, a pretty comfortable four games to open up at number 23, Illinois. Illinois getting pounded by Indiana last week. They now sit at three and one. USC favored by six and a half over under 55 and a half. Ill. Illinois. This is not what we expected. Like, I don't think anybody saw this 6310 result coming from Bloomington, particularly with what's been going on all season long for Illinois up front. They returned all five of their starters on the offensive line. That was supposed to be one of their strengths. How about this? They had three rushing yards in the first half.
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B
Three.
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C
Indiana, three. One, two, three. That's it. Done. They allowed seven sacks last week, so they have now coughed up 16 sacks. The big question and Belema, you know, he said it on Saturday night. He's been saying it through the early part of this week. What is our response going to be? He said, you know, normally I don't watch film right after the game, but we had a bus ride back home and he sat and watched it. He. They flushed through it and flushed it away on Sunday. And now it's all about usc, how their response is going to be at home on homecoming. Big noon kickoff there is going to be fascinating. But usc, we just talked about all the sacks that Illinois is given up.
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D
Yeah.
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C
Trojans lead the Big Ten with 16 sacks, third in the nation with six interceptions. We talked about Jade Miyaba. He's a guy that I think Lincoln Riley has this trust in, this faith in, and he's playing Lincoln's system. Talked about the five touchdowns he had last night or Saturday night against Michigan State. Trojans, it feels like coach are kind of built more for Big Ten football than they had been in the past. I say Trojans get the win at Illinois and they cover and people are going to start talking about USC as a legit Big Ten contender. Yeah, I'm talking to you, Oregon, Penn State and Ohio State. Mark, let's go to you. Alabama, Georgia. The Tide number 17. Two and one at number five, Georgia, who sits at three. And oh, Bulldogs only favored by two and a half over under 53 and a half.
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B
This is a, this is a real one right here, Stoner. This is a real one. This could be a turning point for the, for, for, for, for the Alabama program right here. We've lost, I think, five of our last six on the road or neutral sites, so I could be skewed. But basically Alabama has struggled on the road since Coach DeBoer has taken over. And that is a tough thing when you going into Athens and 33 game hole, 33 straight home. 33 straight wins at home. That's the longest active street in the fbs. But I'm gonna tell you why we're gonna be able to get this done.
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C
Right. Does it start With Ty. Are you gonna tell me why? With Ty.
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B
I'm gonna tell you why. It does start with Ty. But Ty has been straight balling. He's not the problem. Ty is actually the solution.
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C
So what. How did you describe Ty Simpson last week in our big Dune kickoff meetings? Was it. No. Was it electric? You're like the electric Tyson.
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B
Everybody's electric, efficient, all of that. No, but he has the highest completion percentage in the country in the since week two. 41 to 46, 89% completion rate. But listen, this all starts in the trenches for Alabama. We have to get better on both line of scrimmages. 4th worst rush offense in SEC allowed pressure on 30% of Ty Simpson's drop backs. So listen, we have to get better at the line of scrimmage. You go into the road, you play these teams that have championship aspirations. You have to be able to control the line of scrimmage. That comes to running the football, that comes to protecting the passer. And we should have a big boost in the rush game with Jam Miller coming back this week. Okay, so that's the good thing on offense defensively, got to get better versus Florida State. They lost to Florida State. They gave up 30, 31 points and 230 rushing yards to FSU. And that's a problem where you have Georgia coming into town and they love to run the football. They've ran over 190 yards in three straight games, averaging 209 rush yards per game. So that is a problem. Both line of scrimmage for Alabama has to play more dominant, have to control the trenches. But the good thing about it is, like I told you, Ty Simpson is the man. And Georgia defense gave up 41 points and 371 yards in their last game against Tennessee. So Ty Simpson being efficient, the electric.
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C
Ty Simpson, the electric. And put some respect on his name.
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B
Marcus Jam Miller coming back, boosting the Russian attack team. Keenan coming back. The alpha dog on the D line, boosting our defense.
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C
Yep.
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B
Our defensive line. I like Alabama and the points. Two and a half. You give Bama two and a half. I like us to go on and cover that win by a field goal in Athens. We going to turn this thing around. A tough Georgia team gunna stock to Curry spark. We own them nine of the last 10. We have won that, coach. We own them. They are a little brother.
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C
All right.
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B
There's going to be no difference in Athens this weekend, Bama. We're going to turn the corner. We're going to get this win. I got Bama -2 and a half on the road.
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C
No shocker there that Marcus taking roll.
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B
Damn tie and I'll give a piss about none but the tie.
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C
And with that we move on to the game of the week. Number six Oregon at number three Penn State wideout game Nittany Lyons coach favored by three and a half over under set at 52 and a half. It is time or is it finally time where James Franklin changes that narrative about Penn State is good but not great and elite.
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D
Yeah, on tape it's Oregon. Oregon's going to win the game. But then I go back and say Oregon had a schedule where Oklahoma State is normally a challenge. They're awful. I went back and watched that. Northwestern is not good and Oregon State, that usually is a great test. Oregon State's bad, I mean real bad when I watched it. Penn State has played probably the worst non conference schedule that I can remember. So I don't know other than I the respect I have for that damn whiteout. You know that's a seven pointer man. So I, I'm going to say that Oregon is going to win the game but it's going to be walk off. It's going to be a field goal or a missed field goal by Penn State. I think it's going to be one of the great games of the of the year in the most difficult environment in college football. But normally you have an idea after you see a Team 3 and 0 4. No Penn State. I have no idea if I if I was James Franklin and Dan Lanning right now Mark on Tuesday practices I'm doing as much good on now make sure you stay up. Yeah but you better sharpen that knife because all of a sudden every player that Oregon is going to face wearing a blue and white is going to be much different than they faced all year. Right. Other than in practice and same with Penn. Penn State has seen nothing like with the speed they're going to see. So I would right now and I'm sure they are because you got two really good coaches here who's going to win this game? Whoever had the best Tuesday practice. Yeah, that's it.
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B
Yep. And coach, I think you know if I'm Oregon I'm not letting those two backs beat me because their rush defense have been. We saw them, we saw them against Northwestern, their run defense and you're going with two of the probably one of the best combinations in the country with Nick Single with Nick Singleton and K Tron Allen. So if I'm Oregon I'm trying to slow them down and make Drew Aller beat me. See if he can do that. So I'm looking forward to this game. It's going to be a great slate of games this weekend.
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C
Yep. Drew Aller, 626 yards passing, four passing touchdowns, one interception against three cupcakes. Before we leave, we want to. I'm sorry, did that hurt? We want to do our first ever Jake top 12. Coach. Explain to us Jake. Jake Jarvis's journey and what this top 12 is and we will reveal it.
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D
Yeah. Jacob Jarvis is a guy that I met in 2012. He's a young guy that has Duchenne. Duchenne muscular dystrophy. Really tough disease. I love this guy. I mean, he lit me up when I saw him. I worked on, we just, you know, I taught him how to throw a pass and he became part of our family, a part of the Buckeye nation. He traveled. We got him a national championship reign in 2014. He went on our games. He's a football nut. First of all, he's a genius. That's why I, I'm gonna, I'm buying his. Whatever he's buying, whatever he's selling, I'm buying. And here's his top 12. So we're gonna do this every week. Rob, I know you've heard of him. You're gonna. I think he met him.
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C
I absolutely have.
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D
He'll be at our Penn State, Ohio State, Big Noon. I'm gonna get him on set with us, but I trust him. I mean, I think he's, I'm gonna.
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C
It's a pretty good looking top 12. I, I don't see a whole lot of complaints.
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D
Yeah, I, I, he's got the Ducks kind of low though.
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C
Yeah. Well, they've got the opportunity this week to go up to two.
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D
Look at that. Penn stated. So here's, let's go through Jake, stop. 12. Love you, Jake. So the Buckeyes. And I know he's a big Buckeye.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Of course. There's a no brainer, right?
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D
Yeah. Miami number two. You can't really argue with that right now.
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B
No, I agree.
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D
I like the way they're playing. I agree offensively, it wasn't great against Florida, but they did what they had to do. Penn State, I don't know. I mean, that's a.
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C
Well, no more, well, no more sitting.
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B
At number three on everybody's top for the last.
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C
No, no, they were at, they were for a while. Miami jumped them. Yeah. All right, so LSU at 4, Georgia 5, Oregon 6, FSU at 7. And then down back to the SEC, Texas A&M and Oklahoma. Three SEC schools in a row. Indiana in his top 10. I'm sorry, Indiana at 11 and then Tennessee at 12.
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D
I like it, Jake.
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C
All right, so we're gonna be posting Jake's top 12 on our social handles all season. We'll check in on them from time to time as well. Well, Jake's top 12 is going to get shaken up a little bit this week is my guess. Hey, as always, please follow subscribe rate us on YouTube, Apple podcast, podcast, Spotify, wherever it is you get your podcast as well as across social media at 3x option show for our producer, Urban Meyer, I'm Rob Stone. He's Mark Ingram. Make sure to leave some questions as well. We'll answer them on next week's show and enjoy the college football this weekend.