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Napier Fired, Marcel Reed & Todd McShay Join, Top Openings and Week 9 CFB Picks
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Napier Fired, Marcel Reed & Todd McShay Join, Top Openings and Week CFB 9 Picks
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A
Yeah. So much time. I'm flying cross country and wet drawers. Thank you, Mark Ingram. Appreciate that I offered you some dry drawers.
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B
You said your boys or something.
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A
I don't want my boys messing with your boys, man.
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C
Fresh pair draws, man. I'm telling you, I had a fresh pair for you, lady.
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A
The triple option is brought to you by Wendy's. Wake up with Wendy's 2 for $3 breakfast. Great to have you back here for another edition of the triple option. Mark Ingram ii. Deuce. Deuce. Coach.
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B
You got sleeves on. You got sleeves on.
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C
I got sleeves on today.
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D
Yeah.
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A
What's happening, right? Is it chilly in Florida now?
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C
No, I'm tripping. I ain't got the arms out.
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A
What happened?
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C
I had more pump this morning too.
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A
Oh, you must. You must be dethawing from that little pool party you had in Provo.
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B
Dang, coach, that's going on record. I had a good workout too this morning, Rob, so.
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A
And.
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B
And Mark. But I'm wearing sleeves. I always wear sleeves.
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A
Just going on record.
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C
I think I should go.
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A
I. I think I had some expired overnight oats. So this is going to be a great show. All right, so welcome to the Triple Option. This week we talked to NFL draft expert Todd McShay and we're going to bring in the quarterback of the third ranked Texas A and M Aggies, Marcel Reed. Coaches are dropping. We're going to talk about the lies that are spreading in college football. We discuss the best job openings that are out right there. And we're going to look ahead to the Week 9 games. As always, love that you're joining us. We really appreciate your listening, your viewership. Please rate and subscribe at Apple Podcasts, Spotify. Wherever it is you get your podcast, you can find us on social media. 3x option show again, new episodes coming your way every Single Wednesday on YouTube and wherever it is you find your podcast.
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C
Hey, Stoner, just one second, man. I got an echo, man. Just the appreciation for our audience and for our fans, man. Because I did this appearance in mobile, I had several people coming up to me how they love the Triple Option podcast, that they support us. I hear it all the time, you know what I mean? Not just in the mobile, but like I'm going, I'm coaching my son's youth football team. I'm hearing people that watch the podcast. So I just want to say thank you to all our supporters, all our fans, man, we really appreciate y' all keep telling your mom and them and auntie and them and cousin. Them too.
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A
Yeah, yeah, you Got to tell those people in Mobile to like and subscribe and share.
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C
Oh I did.
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A
Send your questions, send your comments. We love all that stuff and the best stuff we're going to put in on the show.
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D
All right.
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A
Are we ready to talk about what transpired and the lies that are spreading on any given Saturday? So the lies the law, lawd laud. It feels like every Sunday I wake up to a notification that another major college football program has moved on from their head coach. This Sunday was no exception that we had frankly all been kind of expecting. And it finally came down. Florida parting ways with Billy Napier following an error filled 2 point win win over Mississippi State. Why do they do it? Because they have a buy before their next game. Georgia, the world's largest outdoor cocktail party in Jacksonville. So Napier 3 and 4 this season, 22 and 23 in four seasons. Sub 500 in SEC play, 12 and 16, 5 and 17 versus ranked teams. He's owed $21 million. Half of that do mark in the next 30 days. And coach, I thought money, I thought money was tight with these college football programs but they just keep writing these.
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C
They go find that money, Stoner.
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A
They find it, they're digging it.
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B
You know, I apologize to Mark Ingram publicly here because I was wrong. Mark, you were right. You said that. And I the one advantage I probably have over a lot of people is I sat in those budget meetings for years and years and years and a year end. And then also you know, at some places, you know, Ohio State really, we had some budget meetings. I let someone else handle that but they would come meet with me and talk about budget. But in the last year I've had conversation with people and I have also talked to a couple coaches that were, you know, fired and then they were here, here's the point is that the fiscal responsibility of a university administration at some point I, I'm, I'm sure there's checks and balances. I don't know if there's deep endowments that somehow they grab a hold of. But I was told verbatim that there is no money at this particular school or schools. And, and I had several comments because I haven't asked a couple guys because I had a theory that the residue residual money that was left over from these big television contracts went to coaches salaries and went to facilities. And I asked in the summertime, I said now they said the days of the monstrous facilities are over and the days of buyouts are over. And I shared that with you guys and also our audience and I was Wrong. I was wrong. Because there, there seems to be, you know, a waterfall of coaches getting released and with big numbers behind it even. I mean, you can say like Alabama beam, man, what was that? 2.5.
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A
Rob, you said UAB, Trent Tilfer parted ways. $2.4 million.
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B
Yeah.
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A
One of your former schools, Colorado State, just parted ways with a good guy, Jay Norvell, did really good work at Nevada and Colorado State as well. That's, that's one and a half million. Those are the smallest numbers out there. But for those programs, that's big. Those are big numbers. There's two commas. If there's two commas involved, it's a big number in this.
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B
Do you have the numbers in front of you? Because I want to go with after, after you say these numbers. I think this will give us a good.
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A
Here we go.
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B
Ready?
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A
At the top of the list right now is James Franklin, 49.7 mil. Billy Napier, 21.2. Mike Gundy at Oklahoma State, 15 mil. Sam Pittman at Arkansas, 9.8 million. DeSean Foster, UCLA 6.4. 3 Brent Pry, Virginia Tech, 6 mil. Oregon, Oregon State, Trent Bray, 4 million. Trent Dilfer, UAB 2.4, Colorado State, Jay Norvell, 1.5. You put that, you put that all together, guys. That's, that's over 116 million. That's just for those dudes and that's.
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C
Just what they owe them. That's what those guys are getting.
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A
Those dudes. Not their assistants, not their staff, not.
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B
The, not the buyouts that they have to get with other coaches. So here's my comment. So what I was told, Mark, is that the days of the, the massive facilities and expenses on things that are kind of silly, be quite honest with you, the, you know, thirty thousand dollar locker in the locker room are gone and the buyouts are gone. So I was wrong. And there's either one or two.
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A
I don't think you were wrong, coach. I think you were lied to.
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B
Yeah, lies, a hard word.
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A
It is, but, but I think there.
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B
Might be a truth issue or they're also, you know, I don't know. I mean, I think here's, here's some facts. So, Mark, I had a friend that was fired at a job and he would constantly go in with his athletic director, administrators and say, I need more money to pay my coaches. And the typical answer, not me. Here's what's cool about my career. Bowling Green, Paul Krabs, Chris Hill at Utah, Jeremy Foley at Florida, and Gene Smith at Ohio State. I never felt that way, because first of all, I was very conscientious about that and they gave us whatever we wanted. But I had some friends. And the typical answer is, we don't have the money. We don't have the money. We don't have the money. They fire the coach and they bring someone in and it's double the salary that they paid him and double everything else. You look at North Carolina, there it was. It's well known that we don't have money. We don't have money. And then all of a sudden, bam. So the actual is number money. I was told again that the big buyouts are over. I shared that with you. Again, that's not truthful. Yeah, because what's happening is this is one of the biggest years and most resources being spent on buyouts. You just shared that with them. So you used the word lie. I don't know if I'd go that far. But as Mark Ingram said, there is money. And so for everybody worried about these universities surviving, I'd say don't worry about it. I'm not. I mean, not that I. Yeah, well, coach, like, opinion matters.
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C
I agree with you. Like the day and age of the facilities, because that's how you used to recruit and appeal to the recruits, you know, by having those facilities, by having these massive amenities that they get to enjoy when they're in college, but now they're not going for that. They're going for, you know, what can you offer me in the nil? So I think those days of the facilities, I think those are going to dwindle down, dwindle away a little bit. But when you have a coach and you have a program that has a standard of winning and you are not winning, they are going to find a way to get that money. They got big donors, they got. I don't know where they get the money, but they gonna find a way to get that cheese.
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B
Well, that's. Where do you think they get the money? I'm asking you guys.
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C
They got donors and supporters of the.
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A
Of the program that can't take it anymore. That just cannot sped up.
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C
They're like, yeah, I, I'm. I can't do this anymore. On Saturdays, I'm writing a check to help y' all get this buyout money.
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A
Another thing to consider is when your football team is bad, it impacts your university in a multitude of ways. And when it's flying, your school benefits from it, right? Admissions numbers go up, applications go up, you're able to, to raise tuition or whatever. It is a more Desirable place to be. Your program is doing well. More eyeballs are on it for television, for sales, for marketing are down. And when they are low, they're not pulling in that money. And I think that's one reason why a lot of ads are looking at their bottom line, like, all right, maybe I need to take this hit. Because if I don't do it, that hit actually gets doubled. Right. Because of how it's going to impact everything that.
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B
What a.
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A
What a university really stands for. So I think that's in play as well. And, coach, you're talking about these astronomical numbers that, that we see. And I talk about how every Sunday there's another coach. Listen, there's. There's three really big programs right now that are teetering, teetering, debating, talking about what they're going to do with their head coach position. Mike Norvell at Florida State, Luke Fickle at Wisconsin. Ironically, both of their athletic directors came out saying, hey, we're going to support you through this season.
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B
Let's push pause there, okay? Put yourself in the. In. Let's, let's get real deep here.
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A
Hold on. Let me throw one more in there. I'm sorry, Coach. Lincoln Riley at usc. Wow, there's. There's angst.
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B
No chance.
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A
I understand. No chance to fire Lincoln Franklin. I get it, Coach. I understand.
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B
Oh, you're right. You're right.
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A
But that loss to Notre Dame, same hurts. And guess what? USC is pretty much out of the playoff picture again. USC people are saying, what have we paid for?
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B
Okay, what.
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A
What have we paid for?
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B
We presented the picture, but now let's go deep. And. And I, like I said, I can probably do this better than most. So. All right, you make it.
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C
You are. You are.
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B
You make a decision. You know, you make a decision. You go back in your office, you have a Rolodex, you know, on your phone now, it used to be Rolodex.
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E
Yep.
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B
Do you start calling the bees the billionaires or the hundreds of millionaires and say, all right, here we go. I'm going to make a decision. I need a check for 20. I mean, is that. I. I don't know this. I'm trying to think, Coach, in the hell.
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C
Yeah.
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E
Or.
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B
Or 70. I need $70 million. There's not a line item on the. You know, there's budgets. You got income, you got revenue, and you got expenses. And that's, I think, Economics 101. But when there's a line item that doesn't show up, and all of a sudden that's got a Bunch of zeros behind it. Eight figures behind it. Is that a phone call to a person? And I'm asking you to.
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C
It's several phone calls.
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B
Here's the phone call. We have to make this change.
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C
Your high net worth millionaires and your billionaires and you guys, hey, I know I haven't, I haven't. You, I know you've done a lot for this program, but I need you to do something else for this program. I need all y' all to split this 70.
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B
I'm gonna, I'm gonna throw another example. If I was a high net worth guy like that and someone called me, I'd say, go screw yourself. You slept. You made that bad. You go sleep in it.
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A
Yeah. Hey, but my guess is that, my guess is that phone line is going the opposite way, where it's those big donors getting into their ads head, getting into their school president's head, getting into trustees heads and saying, you gotta make a move. Yeah, you got to make a move.
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E
I'll do it.
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A
I'll do it. Yeah, I'll offer it, I'll fall on that sword. You know where else. Listen, you got to find the money trail, right? And, and what is one of the biggest sources of money in college athletics right now?
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C
College football?
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TV contracts.
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TV contracts.
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A
TV contracts for college football.
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B
But what does that have to do with it?
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A
I bet I. Listen, it would not surprise me in the least if some of these people come back to the table and say, let's, time to renegotiate. Let's, let's, let's. Instead of the negotiating window is three years down the road. Let's do it right now. And, and guess what? There's a lot of TV networkers saying, you, you, but listen, the NFL has, has, has these networks captive, right? Hey, we're going to renegotiate. You got it? When do you want to do it? Right? Because the, the NFL is the lifeblood to a lot of sports organizations out there and college football is now tucked right under NFL. And it would not surprise me in the least to some of these conferences are getting some pushback from some of their ads, from some of their presidents saying, hey, let's renegotiate a couple years early because we need some funds asap.
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B
I just keep thinking this out. So I get the team that has 110,000 people every home game, hundreds of thousands of active alumni. That's called Penn State University in Florida. But Alabama, Birmingham, you know, I was at Bowling Green. If you said, hey, we have a line item right now. For 4.6 million. I was fighting for training table, right. I went out and spoke. How about this? I spoke to three subway companies in a row. They gave me $2,500 because I had to help buy T shirts for my team. And they just. Now I understand I was a diff. That was like 150 years ago but was it really?
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C
No.
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B
I mean it's. This is, this is mesmerizing to me because I sat in those damn meetings.
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C
I don't know where the money coming from Coach. I have no idea. But they getting it because. Or you can't fire your Coach and pay 40 million. 20 million, 16 million. What? What you said N. Pier is he. Oh he. They owe him half of it by the end of the month.
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D
Yeah.
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A
30 days.
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B
You know, I wonder if we get.
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A
A, a response getting that letter. Dear ma', am, sir, owner of this house, you now have 30 days to cough up. What is it? Half of to his buyout is 21.2 million.
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C
Yeah.
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He gets a check for 30 days.
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C
10 and change 11. Thank you kindly.
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B
Now, now here, let's. I, I'm not. Because I used to see the line item of scholarships Mark and Rob, you know it. You have to pay the university. But that's something they call paper money. That's from an institution back to the institution. This is not, this is cold hard cash going to someone like you said within third. That, that's one of these. Mark, I'm handing you a check. It's not, it's not training table. It's not where they kind of re shuffle around money. This is mind boggling.
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A
So I want to get to one, one other thing on this which, which throws me off. And I know what your response is going to be Coach. I know what you're going to say and, and I think when some pushback comes you're going to be like maybe you're right. These buyout numbers are ridiculous that are put in these contracts. At some point don't you think these universities are going to say we can't keep putting numbers that big in. Your pushback of course will be what Coach?
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B
I'm not going.
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A
Correct, correct.
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B
And there's Jimmy sections of the world that protect his coaches and he's good at what he does. Crazy good.
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A
I, I understood. Understood.
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C
But at some point every single coach has this buyout.
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B
All right, here you go. Here you go. Let's, let's go on that. So all of a sudden you're.
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A
I think that ceiling goes down.
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B
You're Penn State. And you're. And you're Florida. Those are the two big dogs right now.
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D
Yep.
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B
You better hire a home run. I don't give a. What it costs. You better do it, because, like, Mark, I. I'm all in on Mark. Mark, you're right. I mean, there's no fiscal. Go do. Buy. Pay them. Yeah. Because if you win, then it's all good. But, you know, obviously if you lose, it's all good, too, because I just pay them off. I get. I mean, what the hell is going on, man?
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C
The best thing you could do is be a really good coach, get paid a lot of damn money, and then suck so bad. Where they fire you in the first year or two, then they owe you $40 million.
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Where do I sign up? One of the cool things about Coach is the places you've been when there are coaching changes. I know those schools, whoever they are, whoever those schools are, whether it's alumni, they reach out to you.
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C
Right.
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They want your input. They want your intel. You had that in a different type of way on Sunday when you got a certain call from Gainesville.
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B
Yeah. My former player at Colorado State, and then he coached with me at Bowling Green, coach with me at Utah. In Florida, Billy Gonzalez is now the interim coach at University of Florida. And I'm on. I don't know, hole number six. I think it's par four.
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C
What's your score about this time?
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B
I'm doing good. Had a good day. Mark won a couple bucks, too, but that's pretty good. So he calls me and he says, kind of whispering. He said, you got a minute? I said, sure. Are you okay? You guys gotta tell something what's going on? And he said, you know, I'm the interim coach now at Florida. And I was like, whoa. And he says, please don't talk about. Which I didn't. And then he said, you know, can we talk about. You know, I have a staff meeting coming up. I have a team meeting coming up. And I was like. I mean, I was taking a deep breath saying, I got to help my guy here, and this is not easy, so. And he's a heck of a coach, and he's been to Florida, I think, three different occasions. He was there with me, Dan Mullen, and now Billy Napier. And I said the first thing, and most importantly, and he agreed, you know, don't you dare take a shot at the previous. Don't stay completely away from that. And then we came up with the. And both of us just having a conversation, which colleagues and friends would do, is that the most important thing are these darn players and everything. Mark is going to be on film. You could. A player can ruin his draft stock or his career by screwing around right now or not. Or not getting coached. So all these coaches, which, I mean, it's stressful. They're all looking for jobs now. But you're. You have to be loyal to those dudes that wear the helmet and the shoulder pads because you know that Mark, all of a sudden you're, you're. Say you're. Say you're not Mark Ingram, but say you're that guy that's that second, third or fourth rounder. Yeah. All. And you screw around for the next six games, you go free agent pal y. So. And it's not just on him. He better be coached. And so I said that we, you know, we all have a job to do. We're being paid by the University of Florida. But most importantly. And, and, and Billy, you know, he. I think that was. I don't know. I wasn't in the room. But the message is these players got to get coached and coached hard for the next six weeks.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Because that's unfair.
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E
Yeah.
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B
For that. For that. I'm not talking again about Mark Ingram, but even Mark Ingrams.
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E
Yeah.
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B
What are we talking about, Coach?
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A
Those coaches are every single one of those players, too. Right. Those coaches are looking for their next.
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C
Every single one of those players.
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B
Point is, those coaches got to really put egos and they'll be at those kind of places. You'll. But here's the other thing. And I'll let Mark out. Everything is on videotape. Every play that player plays and then also every. Say you're an offensive line coach at Florida. You tell me if I was going to hire someone, I'm going to watch that film and see if he coached those last five, six games. And you can tell probably in about 30 seconds if they have or have not. Yeah.
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E
Yeah.
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C
But like you said, Coach, it's tough, difficult for every. Everybody involved, but especially the players who committed to that coaching staff that committed to that university to stay there and to play there. So it's like I, I love your mindset of, you know, make sure that you're taking care of the guys with the helmet and shoulder pads on because they didn't choose this. They didn't choose to have their head coach fire. They're playing hard for the head coach now. They haven't had the success that they. That the program is used to having and that the sex of the program wants. But in the Day, these players committed to play for this university, committed to play for these coaches. So to make sure that you're coaching these guys up, putting them in the best position to be successful, I think that's the priority.
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D
And.
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B
And there's a. A great example out there right now. Ucla, Tom, Skipper. Yep. And also, I think. What was it? Alabama, Birmingham. Right. They went and beat Memphis. Someone told me. Yeah. So there's some good storyline out there right now of said, you know what? Let's go coach our ass off.
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C
Everyone's being evaluated at this point. Coach, coaching staff, players, administration. So you want to put your best foot forward because everyone is being evaluated, especially in tough times.
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A
So a lot talk about Florida right there. Gator fans that are listening and watching, did. Did your school make the right call? Let us know in the comments section. Send us some questions as well. We pivot now to the deuce Deuce Dog of the week. Mark's player of the week. And this. This one was. This one was easy, man. Jeremiah Love was saying, I love A Rainy Night by Eddie Rabbit.
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C
I think that Jeremiah Love. We love some Jeremiah Love. Love, man.
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D
Just.
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C
What a great human being, but a straight baller and a straight. A straight dog on the field, man. My wife had a video she was recording last week of me.
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A
Does she?
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C
Yeah, she had a video. She was like, listen to you doing your podcast. I'm like, that's the dog of the week. All right, all right, all right. You record me now.
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A
All right.
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C
No, but Jeremiah Love, man, back to the deuce. Deuce dog of the week. He just bald, man. I thought in a rivalry game against usc, a must win game for Notre Dame. They're. They're at home. The weather's a little wet. It's a tough matchup. A rivalry matchup. And he goes for 261 scrimmage yards and a touchdown. Averages nearly 10 yards per carry. Another 37 yards through the air. 260 scrimmage yards. Just put the team on your back. You feel me? Hey, stoner, I feel you. That ain't a dog. I don't know what is on your back.
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A
Mark, is that your wife right behind you? Slide in, trying to record your deuce Deuce Dog of the week. Do I see her right behind you.
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C
Chelsea, you around here?
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A
She's not there. She's not there. She's stealth like that, man. Oh, you gotta watch out for those. Those people, that Ingram family, man, you gotta watch out for them. Coach, there's still a lot of them. There's a lot of humans. And those Ingrams don't care. They'll take you down, man. They don't ask questions. They just make sure you're all right when it's done. That was your fresh take of the week. Presented by Wendy's Wake up with Wendy's Breakfast. Coming up next on the Triple Option presented by Wendy's, we talk all things NFL Draft with the great Todd McShay of the Ringer Breakfast might be the most important choice you make all day. That's because with Wendy's two for three Buck breakfast, you can mix and match your very own perfect pairing of our delicious morning favorites with this breakfast deal. The choice is all yours, not someone else's mark.
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Welcome back to the Triple Option presented by Wendy's Rob, Mark Urban and as we are every month we are joined by the great, one of the best in the NFL scouting business, Todd McShay from the Ringer. You can find him on the McShay show on YouTube, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. Always good to see you, my friend. Sorry Colgate could not stick it to your spiders a couple weeks ago. Coach, you start things off with the most prominent position.
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Yeah. First, one of my favorite people, Todd McShay. We used to do our little game day hit together down in. In Gainesville, Florida, but this is the triple ops. This is not Todd's show. So we. Why do we have to be on his time? Todd, we. We don't work for you, pal.
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I built. Here we go.
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Here we go.
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Yeah, exactly. Welcome to our world.
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I cut my show short so I could get here on time, but I said it might be 10 minutes late so that I didn't take this from you, but here I am.
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We love you and great admiration. So.
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Yeah, by the way, for those watching and listening, you know, before we hit the record button, Coach is like, let's go.
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Yeah, let's go.
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What are we waiting for? All right, let's go. All right, Rob, let me and Todd talk here.
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All right, here we go.
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All right. The number one position in all of sport, quarterback. I've been watching them all, all fall. You know, I've seen a Arch Manning go from people saying projected number one to who knows where. I've seen Beck, Carson, Beck throw four picks last week, which had an interception issue at Georgia. I don't know if I see a 1. There's been years where you see multiple ones. Todd, is there a one? Is there a first rounder in this group? I know they're going to be taken, but you've done this for a long time. Is there a one of these?
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Here's. So I came into this year screaming about we might be entering the golden era, the gold, the gilded age, the golden age of quarterback play. And then we saw Nussmeier with the injury not looking like himself. We saw Arch Manning struggle early on and trying to kind of get back in on the level with him. We, we, we saw Sellers get nicked up and then just not have the offense around him. So a lot of these top guys have struggled.
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Cade, Clubnik, Klubnick.
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It took a big step, step back. I thought he was going to kind of elevate this year, but then we'd see a backup quarterback come in and they can't do much with, with him either. So I'm looking at it this way, honestly. And, And I'd like to make sure that I'm giving the right advice because unfortunately you've called me and screamed at me. When you were Nick Saban. When I. When I. When his. When his. Unfortunately, his secretary. When I get the call, I knew Nick wasn't calling me to, to, you know, check in on my family and see how. What my plans are for Christmas. So, like, I'm used to it. But I also understand there's a responsibility to, to watch the tape, get information and get the right. And the right info out there in case anyone's listening and wants to make a decision off of it. I desperately want to see all of these guys go back to school for another year. Four of the top five guys that I've got in this list, the top four all can play another year, and that's Dante Moore, who had five starts at. At ucla.
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He's not ready.
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Not go well. He's not ready. But my goodness, he is talented. And if he. And with Will Stein developing him like we saw with Bo Nix, like we saw with Dylan Gabriel, with Will Stein, give him another year and then you can kind of do that, that rinse, refine, repeat in the off season. Go back and you know how it goes. Coach, look at all the mistakes. Let's figure out what we did well, what are the areas we have to improve and come back for another year. I just did a study and I'll just go through the list. So it's Dante Moore. Dante Moore and Lenore Sellers are the two most talented quarterbacks in the country in terms of projecting to the NFL. Fernando Mendoza is not that far behind. All three need another. Another year in terms of just game experience and growth. The player that this is a unicorn situation. What's going on in Tuscaloosa right now? Ty Simpson is actually playing like a number one.
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Yes.
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And a guy that's in his third year as a starter. And I know his dad was a coach 18 or 20 years at Tennessee Martin and so like, he looks like a coach's son. But to be able to come in with with Ryan Grubb in the first year and to operate this offense and see a lot of the same things you see on Sundays. That is rare, man. So Simpson's the one I've got my eye on, but his best friend's Ryan Williams. Ryan Williams can't go to until the 2027 draft. Why wouldn't you come back and get another year of experience if you got it rolling like this right now? So the top four guys not only could I think should be back in college football next year, which would be a great thing because you still got Arch coming back for another year. You still got DJ Lagway, whoever the new coach is there and super talented. So we college football. I could maybe I was a year early on the whole Gilden age type conversation with the quarterbacks, but I went back and looked in the NFL urban. 25 starters in that league right now that you would say four, you know, from the basement being like, they're decent. You can win enough with them. Starters to the elites. Of the 25, only three. Three had fewer than 25 or fewer starts in college. Okay.
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Wow.
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And those three all had early struggles in their career. CJ Stroud, after a good first year, has struggled. Caleb Williams and and Sam Darnold. It took a few destinations to get to where he's playing right now. The next three that were between 26 and 29 starts are just unicorns. Like it didn't really matter. That's Mahomes, Josh Allen, and now Drake May. Okay. Physically, they're just different than almost everybody else out there. Everyone else in the league, all of the good to great starters in the league had a minimum of 36 starts in college. Jane.
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Mark, I know you want to get to running back so good. I want to throw one more.
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I want to ask. I want to follow up on the quarterbacks real quick.
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Go.
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So you talk about.
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I might have to be follow up too.
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You talk about your top guys being guys who need to possibly come back. And with this day of nil, they're probably getting paid a lot of money and they probably will come back.
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It's a luxury that they've never had before before, right, Mark?
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Yes. It's huge. It's huge. But with guys who have to go to the draft, you mentioned probably the best quarterbacks in college football with guys who have to leave. Who do you see being one of those quarterbacks? If I'm an NFL team, I need a quarterback. Who do you see being like the first guy, second guy off the board of guys who have to leave and come into the draft next year?
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It's. It's. I, I think it's Garrett Nussmeier. I still do. I. I watched his tape. If you go back and watch Ole Miss, his tape against Ole Miss. That is not Garrett. That's not nice. Clearly his. Whether it's an ab injury.
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What.
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And he's not like, I was, I was like taking the tape and I was like zooming in. Like, is he wincing. Is he grabbing at anything? But he's, he's fighting through it and that. You love that about him. Yeah, but he, I thought the South Carolina tape was a lot better. I haven't gone back to this weekend and actually watched the coach copy tape. I think he's starting to get a little healthier, but they can't protect him, man.
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Yeah, they lost a lot with that line.
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It hasn't been LSU caliber receivers. I mean, this is not the, the Jefferson and the, and the Jamar Chase.
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And the league neighbors.
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Yeah. All the. So, so there's a lot working against him this year. But I do, I truly believe, like, with his understanding of the game and with the way he can play in rhythm and he, unfortunately, he doesn't have the arm of Baker Mayfield, but I think the way he plays the game is a spitting image. And so I, I think it will work in the NFL. I believe in it, but I don't like, I'm not racing out to take him in the first 15 picks in the NFL draft because he's not the biggest, he's not the fastest, he doesn't have the biggest arm. So he's going to have to overcome a lot of those things. And he's been, the last two years, he has been run down by injuries and that, that smaller frame taking pounding. Carson Beck, I talked about it on our show today. It's like a toxic relationship, right? We've all been in that relationship, whether it was middle school, high school, wherever, college, where like, you date, you're dating someone and. Because I, I know, but like, it's like this. Well, every evaluator has a relationship with the prospect and high, there's highs, there's lows.
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When it's good, it's good.
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When it's, you're defending, you're defending them to certain friends. You're, you know, you just can't. But, but anytime you're in a toxic relationship, typically you wind up taking a break. And then all, you know, you hear from all your friends, that person's not, not faithful to you. And this person does that. And then, but then you see he does some, he or she does some good deeds. And then you kind of go, so that was the summer with me. I had to take a break from Carson back. And it was the Lamborghinis and the Lamborghini stolen. It was the Cavender twins and maybe some infidelity. But then, but then you start to hear the reports that things are going really well in Miami. Good character. He's in, first in the building, last guy out. He's more decisive. He's throwing the ball accurately. And you start to see it early in the season. But with every toxic relationship, you wind up back with that person, you expect a different result, and it's always the same result. Right. And I feel like this last Friday night against Louisville.
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There you go.
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It was that moment where it's like, yep. And then after the game, the interview, and kind of putting it on his receiver. It's like the. The most important thing in a relationship is trust. Yeah. And I think it's the most important thing, as Urban you could probably speak to as a coach with your quarterback, it's trust. And I just. It always feels like he breaks that trust for me.
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No, Ty. But yeah, we've been doing a lot of talking, man. You know, I got. We got to talk running backs, man. This one, you know, that's my. That's what we do is to run the rbs. I love Jeremiah Love, Ahmad Hardy. Justice Haynes, he's done a great job transferring from Alabama. Jonah Coleman last year was a great running back class. What do you see in this running back class there? Any top 15, 20 picks and how many first rounders and who do you like?
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Well, I think it was great to see Jeremiah Love come out. He looked angry, man.
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Yeah.
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He did. It's like someone, you know, some. Someone got to him. It was good to see him finally take over a game that way. And he had been kind of building up to it, but they got a pretty good backup.
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And Darian Price.
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Oh, my gosh. Price.
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Yeah.
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He's gonna be a good pro.
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Price is a starter like 99 of the schools in the country. 100. And how they got him to stay there is like that. That was the best recruiting coup that they had. The kickoff return for a touchdown, man, the ability to stick his foot in the. In the ground and just explode up the field. So they've got two of the best backs in the country there, and there's two more at Penn State where we know what they are, but we haven't been able to see what they. They really are in any improvement or development because of that situation at Penn State. So there's four backs right there in two programs. But I'm with you. Like, Haynes has been. Has been awesome to watch. I can't. I'm shocked every time I watch him that they. They let him out of Tuscaloosa. But that's. That's a good fit schematically for what they're doing Jonah Coleman I I like a lot even Oregon like this Whittington kid is now healthy. Yeah I'm not saying for like high draft pick the running back class isn't as good as it was a year ago but that was like almost record setting and I think there's 25, 26 running backs were taken but but this year's group is starting to stack up and the I know it's not your your position but the wide receiver group is a hell of a lot better coming into the years like as Jordan Tyson, there's Boston from from Washington, there's a couple guys but now Carnell Tate's.
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Absolute Todd, you got a big Thursday coming up. Your first big board is released. Very excited. Top 30 right? Your top 30 guys. Top 32 top 32 top 32 coming your way on the McShay show. On the ringer he is Todd McShay. He's one of the best. You hear from him every month here on the Triple option. Todd, as always we appreciate the intel. Always love seeing your face. Coming up next, we talk with Texas A&M's quarterback Marcel Reed. Support for the Triple option comes from Google. Being a college football fan these days means you're part analyst, part GM and part rules expert. The game is just so much more complex than it used to be.
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All protected with end to end encryption. It's time for WhatsApp message privately with everyone. Learn more@WhatsApp.com welcome back to the triple option presented by Wendy's Rob Stone, Urban meyer, Mark Ingram. Texas A&M 7, 0 start first time since 1994 they've started that way. They are number three and they are led by their quarterback Marcel Reed, who joins us right now. Look at just off the practice field. Marcel, right?
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Oh yeah, just got done.
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What, what, what did coach Elko have you guys working on on today?
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Yeah, today we worked on our four point plays, went over some two minute and then end the game situations.
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Yes, sir. Marcel, thanks for joining us. Big fan of yours and I've always been a big fan. A and M. I never have quite understood why A and M hasn't take that next step. You know, for years they haven't won a conference title in years and haven't won the national championship years, but they got it all. But now you watch you guys play, you play with an edge. You got a coach that I saw him throw a chair on the sideline the other day. I can feel an edge. Can you explain? I mean, A and M has everything you need to compete at the highest level. You've been there now for a year or two. What's your thoughts on A and M and how close are you?
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My thoughts are, I think this team has a lot more togetherness than, you know, the past A and M teams. And you know, me being a junior now, I've been in this locker room for a good bit and so have the other juniors that are in here, like Tory New York is one of our captains. Dalton Brook, who's safety for us and Ruben Owens, who's a running back for us. Like we've all been here together. We all committed together. So I think we all just ended up buying into what Elko had to bring to the table when he got here. And he's done a tremendous job, you know, as being our coach and our staff has done a tremendous job as putting us in the best situations possible to win games.
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Man, Marcel, man, you got the Aggies balling, bro. For the, I think undefeated for the first time And I don't know how long, but, man, you could tell that you're confident, you could tell that you're a leader, you could tell that you're just kind of in your zone. It's your second year as a starter. How long did it take for you to feel like this was your offense, that this was your huddle and you had command of the guys?
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Shoot. Well, I mean, once we got into fall camp, I mean, I felt like we were going to be rolling. You know, I told a lot of people that this, this offense is going to be explosive. And so far we proved it. And, you know, it's just us really going out there having fun, doing what we're supposed to do, and we do it every day in practice. So, you know, as long as we prepare the right way every single day, we're going to go out to the games confident and go have fun.
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Last year, you're coming out party was against lsu. Who you guys have this Saturday, you came off the bench, led them to a W. After that, you've been the starter for Texas A and M. But now, now you're going to Baton Rouge, one of the legendary towns, one of the legendary stadiums. What have you heard and what are you expecting for what a night game at Tiger Stadium is all about?
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Yeah, so I've been to Baton Rouge before as my freshman year, but it wasn't a night game. I think it was 11am So a little underwhelming at that point. But I'm just really. I'm really excited to see what the atmosphere is like. You know, I've heard a lot of things. I've heard the fans are crazy. They do all types of stuff. And then, you know, we're going to be running out the tunnel, there's going to be people talking, there's going to be smoke in the air because they shoot fireworks. They're going to be playing and there's.
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Going to be a big old tiger right there. Don't let him. Don't let him. Don't let him. Don't let him shake you, dog.
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I don't care about no tiger.
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Hey, he big. He'd be on the cage. He be growling and stuff.
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Dog shoot, he can't get out.
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Good, you hope.
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Hey, if he get out, it's not just gonna be us nine. It's LSU players, too, so. Yeah, he ain't trained to kill one side, man.
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Marcel, man, we do. I don't know on Big Noon, bro. We do. You know, we had Club Heisman, had you as one of my dark horses, man. Go ahead and win the award. How does it feel, man, to kind of getting that kind of attention, man, from the media?
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Obviously feels great. I mean, that's a high honor. Obviously you have it behind you. I see it there. You know, it's just me going out there and playing football and being confident every week. You know, as long as I do that and do what I'm supposed to do, everything will show up in the end. So you really just focus on going 1 and O each week. And if I end up in New York, then I end up there.
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Yes, sir. You know, Marcel coached in the SEC for quite a while and it was exhausting. When you see every Sunday you come in after you put that one game to bed, what's coming down the road here? Tell, tell the listeners and viewers. How do you keep your mind right? How do you keep your body right knowing that, I mean, you're going to Baton Rouge, then you got Mizzou, then you got Tech, you got all kind. I mean, it's non stop in that conference. How do you keep your mind and body right?
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Yeah. Well, thank the Lord we have a bye week after this one. We're trying to hit that, you know, full steam ahead going into Baton Rouge, try to get a W and then go into our bye week. But it's definitely tough. We've played. This will be four SEC games in a row, I think four SEC games in a row. And you know, that's not, it's not, it's not really great on the body, especially for the front seven, you know, the O line, D line, like those boys they bang and you know, the trenches are crazy up in the sec. So coach does a really good job of taking care of our bodies, making sure we get in the training room, getting treatment done and just kind of taking loads off of us in practice just to make sure that, you know, we're ready to go on Saturday. But the SEC is definitely a different beast when it comes to physicality. That's what we talk about going into every week. So whoever's the more physical team is definitely going to come out on top.
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What's fun about this nil age is doing some of the research on players and finding out, you know, who, who some of the people are that that are sponsoring them. So I don't know if you guys are aware of this, but Marcel has a deal with a private jet company. Oh, Eng Aviation.
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Oh.
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Huh huh. Yeah. Like there's, there's levels like a grocery store.
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We were just talking jets Earlier.
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Now we're talking PJs.
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Yeah.
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What's your favorite view from Eng Aviation? Man, hold up.
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I missed y' all both had the same question at the same time.
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What. What is Eng Aviation ask of you for this deal, man? Because this sounds like a pretty good deal because introduce them to Mark and Urban and myself, too, when you're done.
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I need that deal.
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Yeah, yeah, no, Eng really just asked me to kind of push their. Push their name out there. It's a. It's an organ donorship group who, you know, I've done a couple of PR posts for, just to try to, you know, get organ donors pushed out to kind of the Aggie family out here. There's a hospital in Houston, Houston Methodist, that does organs, organ transplants. And, you know, I visit. I visited there, but, you know, it's really close to College Station, so anybody who needs to find someone for an organ transplant or organ donor, it's a great place to go to. And, you know, everything is based out of Houston, so all their plans are in Houston. Their cars are in Houston, and, you know, they can fly these organs to different states or other people are driving to different states, too. So, yeah, all they asked me to do is, you know, make a couple posts, kind of just push it out there, and then I make a couple appearance for them as well.
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Yeah, Mark and I are dreaming of, like, road trips to Vegas and the Keys or whatever, and instead they're out there delivering organs and saving lives and doing. Yes, doing good for people. Mark, you've got to be better, Mark.
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Man, we got to do better, man. But, you know, everybody can't beat Marcel Reed. You know what I mean?
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Truth.
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C
No, but we appreciate you being on, bro. We know you're busy. We know you focused. We always do something with our guests, man, we've been firing off questions for you for 10 minutes. You can ask us any question you want. You pick whoever you want. Ask any question you want. And we go ahead and, you know, you be the. You be the host. You be the interviewer for the. For a minute.
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D
Okay. Okay, let me see. Hey, who. Who, oh, who is the biggest trash talker on your team at Alabama, at Bama?
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C
Yeah, it was probably Rolando McClain. He was a big middle linebacker. I don't know if you remember him. He was like a number, a top seven pick middle linebacker, number 25. He was about 6, 5, 250, and he could. Yeah, he could run. He could cover. Smartest. One of the smartest players I ever played with. And he was just nasty. He was the dog. He would talk that cash to you and be able to back.
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Are you.
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A
Are you a talker, Marcel, or you. You let others do the barking?
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I don't. I don't talk too much, you know, because, you know, I try to stay focused on what the next play call is. Usually I score a touchdown, I might say something. I mean, I don't know if y' all saw the. The long run I had this past weekend, but I had a long run that got called back. But I'm talking. Shoot, that would have been 52 points on the board and sending them home. I'm talking trash in the fans. They told me to turn around. Yeah, they told me, turn around, there's a yellow mark on the ground.
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C
People don't know that. Pain, dog. That's pain.
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D
That's. That hurt. It was a long one, too. I hit 21 plus. I'm tired.
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C
21 plus miles per hour.
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D
21 plus. I'm tired or I'm tired of just.
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A
Thinking about that, man. 21 miles.
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I gotta ask you, bro, one last thing before we let you go, bro. I love your game. I think we all do. Just how electric of a playmaker you are. We obviously know how important the quarterback position is. Being able to throw, being able to run, being able to make adjustments at the line of scrimmage. Who would you say you kind of, like, modeled your game off of, man? Because you a real dog, bro. I play with Lamar Jack. I see a lot of similarities. Who would you kind of say you looked up to over the years, man?
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Ah, you're not gonna like it.
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D
Not gonna like.
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A
Who is it a Georgia guy?
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C
Cam Newton or a partner Newton?
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D
Nah. Yeah. So I. I. Cecil actually played for my dad at. So I kind of.
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C
It's a good one to look up to. Cam is a dog, bro. Cam is a beast.
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D
And I. I did. I did grow up at Auburn, fan. I'm.
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C
All the love I have for you now is just going away now.
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D
Hey, bro, I'm not offending the world. It's all good.
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It's all good.
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C
It's big love, man. I'm a big Marcel reef.
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A
Yeah. Hey, Marcel, thanks so much for joining the triple option. Enjoy that trip down to Baton Rouge. We'll be watching. We'll be watching. We want some smack talk when you. When you get in that end zone without a yellow flag.
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All right, I got you.
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Don't let that tiger talking get you off your game. Watch out for that tiger. I'm gonna throw the Ball at the Tiger. Watch out for that. And I think there's some angry grandmas out there that went after Coach Meyer a couple years back.
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C
You say they get nasty out there, huh, Coach?
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A
They get surly, man. They get surly down there in the bayou. Marcel, thanks so much. Have a great, great Saturday. Enjoy the rest of your season.
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D
Thank you.
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C
Bless us, bro. Stay healthy, dog.
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Welcome back to the triple option presented by Wendy's Rob Stone, Urban Meyer, Mark Ingram ii. Deuce. Deuce, back here with you. Time now for three and out. We talked earlier in the show about the change in Gainesville with Billy Napier out. So we looked at the, the list, the growing list of openings out there. Give me the top three job openings out there in your mind, Coach, I'll start with you.
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I don't. It's not even close. I think it's Florida. I had that same decision to make back in 2000. What was it, 2004. And I'm Irish Catholic. Notre Dame. I still love Notre Dame. And not many people know this story, but I was offered both jobs and many thought I was going to go to South Bend. But Florida is a better job and Florida is a better job because it's recruiting. And it's also at the time of life when, when I have young kids at home. And this is really important when you look, and that's why I'm saying it's ahead of Penn State. Is that within. When you recruit at Notre Dame or Penn State, Mark, you're on a plane half the time you're recruiting when you're at Notre Dame because I did it as an assistant coach. You're recruiting Seattle, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Arizona, Dallas, Florida, the state of Florida, Georgia, New Jersey and Detroit and Chicago. You know what you're country.
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Getting a car.
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No.
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Miami.
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Yeah. You're three. You're a 45 minute flight from your recruiting base. And I had two planes. They said you have, you have a King Air and a citation that you can use. You'll be home at night. And I was like, this is a no. You know, other than my passion and love for Notre Dame, I will never sleep at home. I'm not going to see my kids playing. And I have the best talent in the country within three hours. Within three hours of Penn State, of Panhandle. Think about when. Three hours of Penn State. I mean, I made that drive. It's from State College, New Jersey. That's three hours by itself. And there's not a human being around there. So I think it's not even close that Florida is a top three, top four job in the United States of America.
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Coach, real quick. Is there a difference between a King Air and a Citation?
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Oh, yeah, yeah. King Air is the short rides. The citations, though when I had to go to Atlanta. Citation. Polk county was a King.
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King Air has the propellers on it, don't it? The Citation, the propellers.
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Those propellers scare me.
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They're safer.
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But great plane, though. Great plane.
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And then. And then third private jet talk. Sorry about that.
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Third.
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I'm gonna go. You know, my. I'm gonna give you my sleeper before probably the third.
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The third one is a tough one. Yeah, I agree.
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I love Virginia Tech. I think that's. I don't know enough about it other than when Beamer was there. Frank Beamer, we played down there when I was at Ohio State. One of the greatest atmospheres. I don't know enough about it. This like I do Florida and Penn State. But this. The third's got to be Arkansas. Done it. It has to be. Even though why in the hell are they in the sec? They should be in the Southwest Conference. I know. It doesn't exist anymore. Or Big 12 playing Nebraska, playing Texas, playing Texas A and M. Arkansas got.
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That Walmart money, coach. Right. That Walmart money. They got Coach Cal for basketball.
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Coached at that stadium. Unbelievable.
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Arkansas.
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And when I was growing up in Arkansas.
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That's a tough place. Ship w pig soy whatever they freak. They say. All right.
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Who pig sul mention of Virginia Tech?
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Okay, mark your top three job openings right now.
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Give me the. Give me the. Give me all our openers for one we got.
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I gotta give you all.
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Give me. Give me the opening stoner.
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All right.
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Florida, Penn State, Oregon State, Arkansas, Oklahoma State, ucla, Virginia Tech, Stanford, Colorado State, uab. Kent.
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I'm gonna go Florida as number one. I'm gonna go Penn State is number two. I'm gonna go UCLA as number three.
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Wow.
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Why. Why you.
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I think they're in a hotbed down there in Southern Cal, man. You just have a plethora of talent in Southern Cal. I think, you know, they haven't been what they were, you know, of recent history. But you talk usc, ucla, you're right there in that Southern, lost Southern Cali area. And I think, like, that's just a hot bed for talent, too. Just like Florida. So, you know, ucla, man, they're in the Big Ten and they got a lot of. You could possibly do some things, make some noise out there.
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Ucla, maybe that number three spot is.
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Because it could be Arkansas, it could be Virginia Tech. But I'M not going to go and mirror coaches freaking three. So I got to go and pick a. Yeah, agreed. And so since you listen to me and coach, you go ahead and make your three.
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Now let me see Stone, you know.
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You always like to go.
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Yeah, I did want it. So I did want to do this to you. I had some ideas. I had some ideas. I was going to go like the top three openings at places that coach has coached at. But I think you're. You've only been at two of them. Colorado State and Florida. And then I wanted to mess with you guys with the sleeper picks, but I decided to actually follow the rules this week. So I agree with you. Number one, Florida's the best current, current job availability out there. Number two, Penn State is right there. But you're right, that number three spot is wild. It's really wild.
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Name a better job than Florida in the country. I want to hear from you guys.
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Ohio State.
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It. It wasn't.
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I'd go Ohio State. I'd go maybe Bama in 0405. It wasn't maybe Texas.
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I'm gonna say it again. 0607.
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When we, when you were there, there was no better free.
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There was no better job than Florida.
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Yeah. When you were there.
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Agreed. So I go Penn State. Number two. They have changed and that's the times of change is what makes number three so hard. Right. There was a part of me, guys, believe it or not, that want to say Stanford, right. Andrew Luckett at gm ACC winnable. Right. We saw what Stanford did to Florida State late, late, late Saturday night. But man, that. That fan base is just kind of apathetic. It always has been. It doesn't have that history. It's had some great quarterbacks obviously Luck and Elway and whatnot. Those academic challenges. So that hurts it. Ucla. I never understood living here in la, why, why UCLA is not bigger and better. You know, they figured it out in a. In a gazillion of their Olympic sports. But football lately has been a tough one. But I'm going to Virginia Tech coach and you mentioned it right. They have shown that they can win there again. The ACC is winnable. Fertile recruiting area that Norfolk, Virginia, Newport News, Hampton area home.
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A lot of talent. A lot of talent coming down the area.
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Lot of talent. If you can pass in there, if you can, if you can pat yourself back in there. Passionate fan base. Even as they're struggling, they still have that amazing fan base and they still start every God dang home game with Enter Sandman. Like if You're a coaching candidate and you're like, hey, let's go check out the field. Let's go see what's going on. They should be blaring at her sandman as that coach is making the walk through the tunnel to get into an empty stadium, just to take a look at it. And I'd be like, pen, paper, let me pen and paper. Sign in right there. I think Virginia Tech could be a really, really sneaky good pick. And that's why it was an honorable mention for you, coach. Time now for Two Minute Drill. Two Minute Drill is brought to you by FanDuel. Visit FanDuel.com triple option to download the app and take advantage of a 50% profit boost. Today we're going to talk some of the big matchups this week. I have BYU up four spots to number 11 this week. They're at Iowa State. Cyclones home, favored by two and a half over under 49 and a half. If you're Kalani Satake at BYU, I think there has to be this fear, coach, in the locker room of, of. Of a letdown week. You know, all the high, all the excitement leading into that holy war. The Cougars, another exhilarating win over Utah. They're the last unbeaten remaining in the Big 12. They're tied. Not in first. They are tied for first in the Big 12 with who? Coach B.
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White.
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No.
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Oh, coach Wheelhouse. Wheelhouse.
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No.
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Cincinnati.
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Coach, where you went to school.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Cincinnati is tied atop the. The Big 12 with BYU. I think Coach Sataki, the Cougars, they need to kind of fight through this week, whatever it is they got to fight through this week. They have a buy next week where they can catch their breath before a real gauntlet of Games. Texas Tech, TCU, Cincinnati Cyclones member guys as high as number 12 back in week four. Two straight road losses. They're kind of. Kind of sent them spiraling into their bye week. Rocco Beckt, he has thrown for over 1600 yards. Just nine touchdown passes. With that revamped receiver core, it feels like he's. He's dipped just a bit. A bit. But remember that place. Remember that energy when we were there, guys. In week two Mark, how did. How did Iowa State beat Iowa?
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Field goal. Walk off.
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Walk off field goal. It happens again. Cyclones get the upset and elevate their big no. How about that? I'm calling it.
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Wow.
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Calling it. Ames. You're on alert, Coach. We go to you third ever meeting between number eight, Ole Miss at number 13, Oklahoma. The Sooners home and favored by four and a half the over under 50 and a half coach.
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So last week on the playbook on Big Noon I did Ole Miss and one of the best coach offenses I've seen number one offense since Lane Kiffins got there in a country and I watched the Georgia game on the plane on the way home. They scored every time they touched the ball until the fourth quarter got shut down until when they got shut down they couldn't stop Georgia. I think this is one of the most intriguing games of the year because you have Charlie Weiss Jr. And Lane Kiffin, two of the best offensive minds in the game against I think one of the best defensive minds. The game Brett Venables coached against him, I think it would be phenomenal. Oh use picked. I'm saying I'm going to take Ole Miss but the points and I think it's a walk off. Whoever, whoever has the ball last is going to win the game. But I take. I know it's only four and a half.
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I wanted to say this last week, coach, the Oklahoma Texas game and you know John Matier was like there's no way he's going to play. Ah, he might be available now. He's questionable now. He's going to start. I think Oklahoma did themselves a disservice by playing Mater. I think they should have sat him another week. They wouldn't have been punished as much by the playoff committee, by the AP poll had he sat. He, he got the win last weekend. But the numbers aren't at that Heisman level where he was flying earlier. I hope that doesn't bite them back because I want to see Oklahoma do well, but they've got a real tough stretch down the road. All right, coach, thank you for that pick. Now we pivot to you. Mark, number three. That's right, number three. Texas A&M at 20th ranked LSU. The home team, Mark has won the last eight in the series and the Aggies on the road favored by 2 1/2 over under.
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Do you want to do this for me or what? I mean I was going to say.
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I'm just giving.
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I was going to say dang. But no, man, this is why you.
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Throw me into pools.
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I watch your backstone. No, but man, A M, man, they're the last undefeated team in sec, man, and they've been playing really well. Marcel Reed is just a beast, man. He's playing at a Heisman level, a dark horse. I said he was a dark horse and, and he really is what he did last week, man, he's had three straight games With a pass and a rush td, he had four total touchdowns. No turnovers last week. He has the players on the outside with Mario Craver and KC Conception, they've had, they've had over 1100 yards and 10 touchdowns combined this season. Their defense, they've been giving up a lot of points. They gave up, they gave up 42 points at 268 rushing yards last week. But one thing that they do do, Stone. They get off the field on third down and they rush the passer. So A and M on the road. LSU struggling a little bit. Nuss. Meyer hasn't been struggling a little bit. Has been what he was supposed to be this year. Struggling, can't run the football. The defense kind of keeping them in it, but not really. With weeks, their star linebacker hurt, we don't know if he's going to play or not. Man, I'm glad. The points with A M, I think they continue their hot streak. I think they stay undefeated. I think they go into Baton Rouge, a night game, a tough place to play. I'm laying the points, two and a half, maybe buy the hook if you want, but I like A and M to win this game by at least three.
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Hey, man, if that, if that happens under lights in Baton Rouge, start putting some. Coach Kelly better stop. Coach Kelly stop. Kelly better know where.
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You're the one, you're the one stirring all this up on all these coaches.
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Baton Rouge. You know what Baton Rouge is saying right now, Coach? That's, that's stone boys, right?
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This is all on. I'm going to put that out. This is all on stone. There's, all these changes are on stone.
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Hey, you saying another one's going to be on the chopping block?
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I didn't say on the block, but, well, maybe we went from Lincoln.
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No way.
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I'm just saying LSU one of the places, everybody.
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Lsu, one of the places that they ain't going to deal with it much longer.
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They're not going to put up with that, man. Patience level is low.
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I used to say they don't have the money. I, I, that's not true. I'm with you, Mark. Whatever it takes.
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Coach, I don't know where they're getting the money, but they are going to get that money. They not going to sit around and just take these.
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Doesn't have to be public records, too. Where does it come from?
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That's to me, it's, hey, Coach, let's, let's go on an investigation and let's go.
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We're going on a hunt Stone can do that. He's got time.
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Yeah, I got so much time. Yeah, I have so much time, I'm flying cross country in wet drawers. Thank you, Mark Ingram. Appreciate that. Hey, I offered you some.
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Some dry draws.
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Yeah, you said your boys or something.
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I don't want my boys messing with your boys.
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Fresh pair of draws, man. I'm telling you, I had a fresh pair for you.
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