A (3:15)

And 1 to 5, 1 to 5 and 1 being no and 5 being yes. Is that. Is that. Is that. Is that correct? I mean, I'll say it's a three. It's still early.

B (3:27)

I knew you were going to go there. Right down the middle.

A (3:29)

I'll stay as a three. Do they look really good? Yes, they do. Trinidad Chambliss is really balling over there at Ole Miss. The defense is playing strong and fast, but we've seen in the past Ole Miss at some point will Ole Miss. So they look good, but you know what I mean? It's still early. It's still early.

B (3:49)

There's some Ole Miss opportunities out there, right? I mean, at Georgia, at Oklahoma, at Mississippi State.

A (3:56)

Yep. South. Yep. They got South Carolina, Florida. Yeah. At Mississippi State. And the SEC is just really deep, man. Mizzou looks really good. Vandy is undefeated. Going to Alabama, and we need our get back. Oklahoma has been really good. We know Matier has the hand injury. A and M with Marcel Reed. Texas has yet to play an SEC game, so this conference is. It's still too early to be able to tell. Ole Miss looks like to be a contender. And that's why I'm going straight down the middle three.

B (4:25)

So you tuck it in as a three. Seems like a safe pick. All right, I. I'm. I'm with you. We'll reevaluate this one a little bit later. Let's go to Happy Valley. Penn State, Coach. The Nittany Lions, they have reached their ceiling under James Franklin. Lost at home, 30 to 24, double OT. They dropped down to number seven, Franklin. Here's the numbers two and 21 versus AP top six opponents. He's lost 15 in a row to top six teams. Remember, coach, we used to say, hey, here's the problem with James Franklin in Penn State. Their problem is Michigan and their problem is Ohio State. Guess what? They now have an Oregon problem on top of that.

C (5:03)

Yeah, I would be a Solid four because the ceiling is really high. I mean, and he's right there at the top of the ceiling. So, I mean, go through 132 teams and would like to have the record that Jane Franklin has for sure. And I made this comment on Big Noon or Colin Coward, I can't remember. And I said that when you lose a game in Columbus, I've been there, I've lost a game in Columbus and the sun does not come up. People are so pissed off for so long in Columbus, Ohio. Mark, you watched it when you walk out of that stadium and I mean, and then you go to Ann Arbor and you know, the nasty. I mean, some of the things people say. And look, and don't get me started on that one because we're going there this week. And then the last one is Penn State. The pregame, the, the white out, the best in the country. You lose that game, though. And I remember walking out when we beat Penn State and everybody's friend, you know, it's Happy Valley, it's everybody's, hey, see you next in a couple years, coach. And what a game. And I'm thinking, damn. I mean, so very few places have the same mentality of Columbus, Ohio, where when you batten down the hatches when you lose a game there. I don't feel that way at Penn State. I think Penn State is about where they need to be, which is one of the top five teams in the country. And if they make some plays, they can win a national championship. It's just, I, I don't. I think they're at the near the ceiling, but the ceiling can always go a little further. Yeah, I know it's a little long winded there.

B (6:31)

I, I think this win is going to serve Penn State well again. Remember all that senior leadership on the team. Yeah, they're absolutely still in it. Road trips though, still coming up at Iowa, at Ohio State. Indiana comes to Happy Valley. They go to Michigan State as well. By the way. Michigan State, like is. Is better this year. Home to Nebraska. So real challenging schedule still ahead 100%. The ceiling A4. All right, so you feel pretty strong that Penn State has reached their ceiling under James Franklin. All right, we transition to two other conferences right now, the ACC and the Big 12. They each have four ranked teams this week, Mark. Come December, the Big 12 and the ACC is only going to get one College Football Playoff bid.

A (7:17)

Only one.

B (7:17)

So, so five if, if I totally nailed that statement. One, if I'm way off. ACC and Big 12 each only get one bid to the playoffs.

A (7:26)

Like they could. You think that they will get more.

B (7:30)

If you think they're going to get more, then give, give, give my statement a low rating.

A (7:34)

I think the statement is a five. I think they for sure get some spot on. I think they for sure get one in each. Now the question is, do you get two in?

B (7:42)

Well, of course they're going to get one of each.

C (7:43)

Well, that's the question mark.

B (7:44)

That's booked. So can they get a second in there? Like if you're at the.

A (7:48)

They could definitely get a second in. Yeah.

B (7:51)

Who.

A (7:51)

Yeah, ACC could definitely get a second in. The season's still early. Georgia Tech, they're undefeated. Florida State, they lost one, but that's only one. What if they somehow continue to run the table and go to their championship game? You know what I mean? The thing with the beauty of this is you could lose a game, get to your conference championship and win and still get in. Clemson went to the conference championship. They won their conference championship with three losses last year. So you can easily. I feel like they get more than one.

C (8:22)

I feel like you're saying a two.

A (8:25)

Yeah, yeah. I feel like the ACC order Big 12 will end up getting more than one in again.

B (8:31)

Florida State hosting Miami this weekend.

A (8:33)

Yes.

B (8:33)

We'll talk about that game coming up. So you win that game and Florida State is right back in the conversation.

A (8:38)

Exactly.

B (8:38)

And Miami will only take a marginal hit. You would think for the Big 12 right now it's Texas Tech, ranked number 11. Third. The team that looks to be going to the college football playoffs, Iowa State, Arizona 14. Unbeaten Arizona State at 25. BYU at number 23. More on them in a moment. So Mark feels that at least the ACC has a chance to get more than one team into the College Football Playoff. All right, let's talk about the team that won it all last year, the Ohio State coach. On a scale of 1 to 5. 5. You totally believe it. They will repeat as national champs.

C (9:14)

I saw something with a coach day that when you start hearing your name around Newt Rockne. Did you guys see that? If he wins one more game, I think it's a higher winning percentage than Newt Rockne. How about that?

A (9:27)

Wow.

B (9:27)

I'm just impressed if it's a higher winning percentage than you.

C (9:30)

Yeah. I mean, as a career, I think it. I don't know if it is Ohio State.

B (9:34)

Right. It's close.

C (9:34)

It's close. What he's done is it's his best coaching job. I mean, you replace two coordinators, replace a quarterback. Their defense is elite, elite to Go on the road and hold that quarterback Damon Williams Jr. To the way they contained him. I love that player. So absolutely they can. Can I. I would say a 4. I think it's going to be Oregon, Ohio State. They're going to play twice. They're going to play in Indianapolis and they're going to play in the college football playoff. Mark. And I think the winner. I still. I don't see that team in the SEC yet. Mark. I don't. That's going to. To me, Oregon, Ohio State look a little bit different than everyone else. And obviously like you said, it's so early, but those are the two teams that are going to swing. So of course I think It's a solid 3.5 to 4.5, 3.5 to 4.5.

B (10:25)

They have Minnesota at home this weekend and then the following Saturday at Wisconsin.

C (10:31)

You can play defense like that. Boy, I mean I've had a couple of teams like that where you play defense and I mean you the whole week you're just game planning it. You feel good.

B (10:40)

So 4A 4.5. Is that what you're saying? Give yourself a little.

C (10:44)

I'm G. Go 4. 4.

B (10:45)

Oh 4. Mark. What do you say on that one?

A (10:47)

That man's all over the schedule. All over. Hey, no, they got a legit shot for. They got a legit shot, man.

B (10:54)

I think it's a four point something to give yourself some wiggle room. By the way, can we talk about the running back Bo Jackson? Like if this kid is for real, for real going forward, that solves a big. A big question Mark Jackson.

A (11:06)

You know, you got to be tot.

B (11:07)

Ned Pe next say into Smith as.

A (11:11)

Well knew he was the chosen one, right?

B (11:14)

No pressure, Bo. No pressure at all. We're just going to name you Bo Jackson.

A (11:18)

Eight and a half yards per K.

B (11:19)

Go run up outfield walls and catch things and go run through DBs and linebackers.

A (11:24)

Jeremiah Smith doing his thing. Julian S keep getting better. Keep improving that defense. Man. You got a shot anytime you play defense.

B (11:30)

All right, here we go. Last question again. 5 if you totally believe this statement. 1 if were way off course, Lincoln Riley will not win a Big Ten title at USC. Remember they were 40 until they lost last Saturday on that walk off field goal at Illinois. Coach USC 13 and 12 in their last 25 games. Lincoln Riley will not win a Big Ten title at USC 1 through 5.

C (12:00)

4. Yeah, I mean they let me down. This was the team. I thought they looked big.

A (12:04)

They let all of us down.

C (12:06)

I thought, you know I mean, I. My whole playbook was about their physicality and about how that changes the culture of the program. It changes the off season, changes practice. And right in front of our eyes, Mark, they got pushed around by Illinois. They got beat by 50 points to Indiana. So I don't know that. That one's an enigma to me. I don't understand. The whole usc, to me is I always held them as a top two, three program in the country. They have it all right there. So I give a 4. 4.

B (12:35)

They got a ton of recruits coming in. They've really picked up their game there. I'm going a lower number on that. I say watch out for the Trojans next year. But by the way, real quick.

C (12:43)

I see you, Rob. Yeah, why?

A (12:46)

Well, watch out for the Trojans next year.

B (12:48)

Watch out for the Trojans next year, Rob. Yeah.

C (12:50)

Really?

B (12:50)

When my daughter hopefully will be a freshman there.

C (12:53)

Explain yourself.

A (12:54)

Yeah. No, you can't just drop this and just go to the next.

B (12:58)

Because I think. I think recruiting. I think the energy around the. Particularly here in California has totally changed. But I think. Sorry, they.

A (13:10)

They went and they look the part and they got manhandled by.

B (13:15)

But to that point, like I wanted to give Brett B. His flowers, right? And coach, we were talking about that. I. I don't know if coach is getting enough credit for what he was able to do, having been absolutely mauled and humbled in Bloomington and then to turn around and to really push around a USC team last Saturday. All of a sudden we're kind of back to thinking about this Illinois team is. Is going to be one of the. The four or five best in a really loaded Big Ten right now. So usc, Lincoln Riley. I believe in you, Lincoln, more than some others, too. All right, last. Let us know how we did confidence if we nailed these questions or not. If you got some comments about it, throw them our way. We'd love to feature them every week. Time now, though, for the deuce. Deuce. Dog of the week. Is that a belch or is that a bark? I don't know what that is. Is everything all right with you?

C (14:13)

All right.

B (14:13)

Best player in the nation last week. Your dog of the week. Who was it?

A (14:18)

The dudes. Dude's dog of the week. I got to go with my Michigan boy, my mitten boy. He is from Michigan. Detroit. Michigan, exactly. But he is out there holding it down for the Ducks in Oregon. The boy, the QB one, Dante Moore. 248 yards, three TDs, another 35 rushing yards on the ground in Penn State in Happy Valley at the Whiteout. A heavyweight title matchup, a back and forth matchup, but he made enough plays to help this team get the job done. Dante Moore, it was his Heisman moment. He's in the Heisman conversation and he is a dog. He waited his time and he is thriving with his time and it is his time right now. Dante Mo for the Ara Ara for All right. Deuce dog.

C (15:03)

See how emotional he was after that game. He was really emotional after that game.

B (15:09)

I put him at the top of my Heisman list right now. You know, with mater and the injury at Oklahoma, that's absolutely going to hurt him. He'll. He'll have time to win it back. But is he number one in the Heisman ballot right now?

A (15:22)

Yes, he is right there. He is right there with that win on the road at Penn State and leading the Ducks who look to be on like a collision course with the Bucks.

B (15:33)

Yeah, twice. A two time collision course twice.

A (15:38)

He is right there at the top of this conversation. You can't talk Heisman without talking. Dante Moore Agree that was your fresh.

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D (20:01)

She says, hi, handsome coach. She gives me a different message every morning. So it's one of like, relationships are hard, man, especially in football. So I'm sure she goes back to bed after she gets up, she'll get up early with me in the morning, but she'll make me a cup of coffee and she always puts a note on there to get me, you know, jacked and ready for the day.

B (20:18)

I love that. That's love, man. That's love. Real quick, but before the Penn State game last week, I know you called Coach Meyer. What was the impetus and, and what kind of finally forced you to, to dial up his digits and ask him about that? Certain question?

D (20:32)

Yeah, really, I just, I'd never been at Penn State. I hadn't played there, seen it from afar and knew he'd been in some games there. I just want to get his opinion of the place. I always try to get an idea of, you know, what's it like. And I knew he'd been at places that I'd been at, but, you know, I'd never been there. So I wanted to get an idea, okay, what's the crowd noise like? When's it, when's it loud? And he gave this concept, the hotspots. He's like, look, first, first play of the game, first kickoff punt, you know, third downs, like, it's going to be really loud. Their student section, like certain areas of the field, you're going to hear them. And it was, it was, it was, you know, almost exactly as you described. And so for us in practice, we tried to create that. We had, you know, we have our speakers on the sideline, we have our speakers in the stadium, we have our speakers in the indoor. Every one of them's on and they're loud. But we did it. We didn't do it for every single moment in practice. We did it for periods of practice. And then we had these turtle boxes, you know, and I probably had 15 turtle boxes right behind the offensive lines when they get in the huddle there. We had every turtle box right on top of the offensive line. And we did it, you know, these hotspot periods in practice, and we actually Started a little bit of it last week, you know, for our guys, you know, during the Oregon State game, because it's gonna be something that shows up throughout the year and kind of just built this mindset of, hey, we gotta be ready for the hotspots when they show up. And, you know, our guys did an unbelievable job. We ended up having two false starts in the game, and they were. They were really close, in my opinion, to not being, you know, false starts. But it. It wasn't our offensive line. Our offensive line didn't jump once in the game, which is really impressive, you know, in that environment to handle that our punt team was able to flip protections, do different things, you know, so this, it was pretty impressive, I thought, you know, for our guys to handle that. And it was some good insight from coach to help us out getting there.

A (22:14)

Coach, man, that was some big boy ball y' all played this weekend, man. I know you not afraid of those type of games, but it was a very close game. Very like, you know, back and forth. Haymakers, haymakers, haymakers responding. What does it say about your team and the leadership and the resilience of your team to be able to go on the road and a double overtime match matchup add to white out and be able to come away at the win? What does that say about your team?

D (22:39)

Yeah, watching that game afterwards, the thing I was most proud of is there, there. There was one play that I watched as I made our effort wasn't what it needed to be one play. And out of all the plays in that game, to watch one play and say our effort isn't what it needs to be, like, that doesn't happen very often. Our guys played with relentless effort. And that game, anybody's watching, it recognizes that could have gone either way.

A (22:59)

Right?

D (22:59)

And as a coach, like, I always tell our players, 100% guarantee there's going to be good things that happen, there's going to be bad things that happen. The question is, how will you. How will you respond to good and bad? And I had, I'd made a decision in my mind, like, however this game turns out, I'm so proud of the way our guys played. Like, that's a good team, you know, in a tough environment. And I honestly, I hurt for, you know, Coach Franklin because they're an unbelievable team like that. And. And somebody was going to walk out of there not feeling great about how it ended. And it's really like that much, right? Like that much is the difference. So I was really proud of our guys. Regardless of result and obviously thrilled that we came out with the W. We had to do whatever and everything we could to have that success. But that's one of those games that, regardless of result, I was going to be really proud of the way our guys played in that environment. And I'm more than anything, really proud of their effort. And we learned some great lessons in the process, too.

A (23:52)

Good job, Coach.

B (23:53)

Your quarterback, Dante Moore, where does he belong now in the Heisman conversation?

D (23:58)

We're not going to talk about that. I mean, this dude, but. But if you can't recognize that he's a baller, facts, shame on you. Like, this guy is special, right? And, like, all that stuff takes care of itself, right? Like, he. He belongs in any conversation there is, but we ain't at the end of the season yet either. And all of it adds up. It all matters. And Dante knows that. But that dude, he played his ass off in that game. Really impressive effort by him. Unbelievable play by him.

A (24:25)

And he's a Michigan boy, Coach. Like your boy, you know what I mean? So you got you one.

D (24:30)

I thought you tried to get him to do the pose the other day.

B (24:32)

Yeah, he didn't fight for that.

A (24:35)

I wanted to ask you about that, man. Like you saw it. I asked him to do the pose, man. And what makes him such. What makes him so humble and such a leader for this team?

D (24:44)

You know, it. It's just. It's part of his maturity, you know? You know, he is a guy that. No moments too big, but he's even keel. It's one of the things I thought that made Dylan really. Gabriel really special, is he had really great poise in those moments. I remember I came up to him in a third down in the game the other day, and I was like, listen, okay? If we get to fourth down and if we don't like the look, you don't have to snap the ball. We can take a. Delay a game here and we'll punt and we'll be in great shape. He's like, coach, how about we just convert the third down? I was like, all right, cool. My bad. I'll shut up. Like, don't worry about. Like, it's on me to call timeout or take the delay. Like, you just go convert this third down. Like, he just has unbelievable poise within the game. He's like, why are you talking to me about fourth down? We're about to convert third down. Shut up. You know?

A (25:25)

All right, cool.

D (25:26)

Good point.

B (25:27)

That's what's up, Coach. You, like, our coach has spent time in The SEC and now obviously in the Big Ten. How close are those two conferences right now? Is one better than the other? How do they compare? What's your vibe between the SEC and the Big Ten?

D (25:42)

Well, I mean, there's both. Both conferences have unbelievable teams. Right. Obviously the upper hand that's really belonged to the Big Ten the last two years, having the two national championships out of that, I mean, four of the last Kings playing in the national or three of the last two years, teams playing in the national championship are from the Big Ten. But to not acknowledge that the SEC has unbelievable teams would be silly. Right. There's really good teams on both sides and that make. That's made college football fun.

B (26:07)

Right.

D (26:07)

It's made it fun for everybody, you know, across the nation to recognize, like, there's some really good teams in both conferences, but really confident right now. The Big Ten's playing really good ball and it's a tough. A tough conference to be a part of, that's for sure.

A (26:20)

Coach, one of the things I said I was most impressed about was just the winning culture that you have created at Oregon. The players you recruit, the players you retain, the mentality that you guys play with. And one thing that goes with that is, like, the depth of the roster. The depth of your roster is insane. I mean, you had six different players with a rush attempt in the last game, eight different pass catchers in that game. Numerous amounts of people show up on the defensive stat sheet. How did you build this foundation at Oregon, man? Because it's extremely impressive to witness.

D (26:51)

Yeah. You know, really, our theme this season has been strength in numbers.

A (26:54)

Right.

D (26:55)

And we've all, ever since I've been here, we've talked about if you're good enough, you're old enough. How many players can we have that are playing winning football? We have a lot of guys that are playing winning football, but the players have set the temperature. Yeah, they've been the thermostat. They've been the guys that have owned on the standard. We've been really fortunate. Now in year four, we've never lost the starter to the transfer portal. I think that speaks to our players, really enjoy being here. We have the ability to retain them. The culture developed, but our players, our players have created that culture. They've created that standard, and they've set that mark. And then, you know, there's a belief like, okay, Cody, if I practice well enough and I set and I play to a level necessary, I'm going to find ways to be on the field. And we have a Lot of guys that have done that.

B (27:34)

All right, Coach, we want to do some tape work here with you. We're going to like Zapruder, the end of this game and you and your reactions, all right? So if you can watch on the screen here, the interception has taken place, all right? We're going to find you here in a second, and then you lift this human being up. All right? So we're going to freeze it.

A (27:56)

What.

B (27:56)

What just transpired there.

C (27:57)

Who.

B (27:57)

Who was that and what's going on at that moment in your brain?

A (28:00)

He was at Alabama, wasn't he? Coach?

D (28:03)

Strength coach. That's Wilson Love, man. So I was a GA at Alabama when Wilson was a strength coach intern, GA in Alabama, and he lays it on the line. We got on the bus after the game, and it's funny, you know, Wilson brings it every single day, and our players are like, look, Coach. Look at Wilson. He's out of juice, man. He ain't got no. He was exhausted. You know, it's funny as a coach and Wilson and myself included, how exhausted you get in those games, and you're like, I didn't run down on one kickoff. I didn't play one snap, you know, but we love each other, man. I was so excited to see him give a big old bear hug, you know, I get amped up in those moments. Coach lapoy, later on, I bump into him. He's made a big point of like, please do not chest bump me. Do not hit me anymore. Because he's had, like, cartilage that's been damaged, and I've hit him twice since we've been here, where, you know, I've damaged his ribs. So he came up to me and was like, hey, man, can I actually touch you? He's not in this scene, but he's like, can I touch you? I know I've jacked you up. I've tried to make a point of not running into you in these moments after big interceptions or big plays. He's like, I'm good, man. I'm good. You know, and it's just the emotions are so high in that game. You're so excited for. For guys like Coach Love that every player in that locker room loved, you know. Yeah, that was a special moment.

C (29:21)

All right, but.

B (29:22)

But we're not done, Coach. This fascinated me because I was watching this live. All right, here we go. This is quick with Coach Franklin. And then. And then the scream heard round the world in my eyes. Hold on. I love that primal scream. All right, so what. What was that? Release what was that? That for you, Coach?

D (29:41)

We always say 60 minutes or as long as it takes. It takes a little. It took a little bit longer in this game. We went into overtime. But that was, I guess, I don't know. I was just Jack. I was Jack.

B (29:52)

So. So the lovely person that's trying to interview you is Katherine Tappan from NBC Sports. There's another angle with. As I was watching live, you scared the shit out of her. Like, she had this look like, I gotta talk to this human being. Like, I don't think he's. I don't think he's with us on the planet at this moment. Like it. Coach. To me, I'm like, that dude is hanging by a thread in a really cool, amazing, energetic way.

D (30:14)

Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of emotions in that moment. You wanna. You wanna scream, you wanna cry, you. I don't know, it. That's like, that's why you do this job.

B (30:24)

Yeah.

D (30:24)

You know, that's why you do this job, to get to enjoy some of those moments. So it was fun.

B (30:30)

And then one more, one more. We're going to roll it again here as well. Somebody comes up to you real fast, tries, Tries to sneak in a quick hello and a thank you.

D (30:36)

Right, Kenya. Kenya.

B (30:38)

Yeah. And. And then there it is. There's that. And the addressing of. Of the crowd. Had you settled yourself down yet? It was a great interview. It was really emotional and, and impactful. But, you know, you're taking in that whole scene. And he knew what the whiteout was. And it goes to double overtime. You get the pick, the walk off pick. You know, where was Coach Lanning's head through all of these emotions?

D (31:03)

I mean, it was a. We did it feeling like it was. It was like, okay, we accomplished it. And like I said, I really set my mind in that game that, you know, we're going to. Regardless of what happens, I'm super proud of how we played. And, you know, apparently somebody like that game was. We told our players all week, it's about a thousand cuts. It's about a thousand cuts. Like, that's by a thousand cuts. And I think somebody caught me in the game doing this. And like, that's all I was saying is like, hey, it's another cut. That's another cut. Everybody thought I was saying, game's over. Which is not at all what I was saying, but it was one of those moments. Like, you could see our players throughout the game signaling to each other. That's a cut. That's a cut. And we're like, hey, eventually we're gonna get an artery and eventually we're gonna get a job, you know, and that, you know, throughout the game it was just like the next play is the most important and when the game's over with now, now eventually get to say we got it, we got all of our cut then. So yeah, it was just a special moment. It was fun for our guys.

B (31:53)

Coach, congratulations. We really appreciate you taking time out here. Just a couple, really, a couple hours after the big win. Go enjoy that second cup of and enjoy, enjoy that bye week. You've earned it.

D (32:03)

Appreciate it. Thank you guys. Have a great one.

B (32:05)

Thank you, coach.

A (32:06)

Appreciate you, coach. Thanks a lot.

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You bet. Have a good one.

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By Liberty Mutual Insurance Company Affiliates excludes Massachusetts. Welcome back to the triple option presented by Wendy's Rob Urban. Mark back here with you. In the era of finding schools for field storming and needing to conserve all those dollars for revenue sharing and paying out coaches and bringing in new coaches. Lane Kiffin and Ole Miss had a message to his rebel fan base after their home win over lsu. Take a listen.

C (34:01)

Hope our fans had a good day. Appreciate them not rushing the field so but I I think not to take away from probably extra security. He probably helped but to me that's really cool that you get to a place at a program that you do beat the number three team in the.

D (34:19)

Country and you don't rush the field.

C (34:21)

Because it's because we did what we're supposed to do and that's win the game. And so that makes me happy that this program's got to that place.

B (34:30)

All right, he's right, but he's wrong.

A (34:33)

He's true. He is right. Because when you win national championships and the standard is national championship, you don't rush the field for beating somebody in the regular season.

B (34:40)

I don't know. You just beat the number three team in the land.

A (34:43)

But that's not the off. That's not the all else.

B (34:45)

Why can't you celebrate that? Why can't you celebrate it on campus.

A (34:47)

And go crazy that.

B (34:49)

Well, that is celebrating it on campus. You're running on the field, which is on campus.

A (34:53)

Hey, coach, tell these people. When you win championships, when you have championship pedigree, you don't storm the field for.

B (34:58)

They haven't won championships.

A (34:59)

Huh?

B (35:00)

They haven't won championships. They should embrace.

A (35:04)

That's your standard.

B (35:05)

You don't want to feel the standard. Knoxford, as you beat number three, lsu. Get your butt down on that field and rush it, man, and have some fun and embrace coaches and players.

A (35:16)

You never see better.

C (35:17)

I'm just enjoying watching you two guys go out. I'm a little bit more like again.

B (35:22)

Ole Miss is in Alabama.

A (35:23)

Yes, but they want to be correct.

B (35:26)

They want to be. But they are.

A (35:27)

So you act like it. Come on now.

C (35:30)

So I've witnessed. I've witnessed at Bowling Green, we rush a field. At Utah, we rush a field. At Florida. Never. I don't think we've ever rushed a field because we expected. And then Ohio State, the only time you do is when you. You beat that team up north. So that's so I, I love it. I've been a part of it. You know, I, I remember we beat the team up north the last time and then. And they were trying to get. The police are trying to get me out the field. I just thought, let me enjoy this for a little bit. I stayed out with the fans for about 20 minutes and just enjoyed every second of it. So. But I, I get it, Mark. I feel you with Alabama. You know, I just don't see Alabama rushing the field because that's their job.

A (36:07)

Never have I.

C (36:08)

In my time, they never have.

A (36:10)

I. I don't know. Since 2008, since been there, I've never seen it. Not once. I. It might have happened previously, but ever since I've been there since 2008. I've never seen it. Never seen it.

B (36:23)

Let your fans enjoy it, man.

A (36:25)

We do enjoy it. We enjoy. And running up natties, 18 of them going for 19. So it's just different. I'm sorry. Roll, roll. Damn tight. It's just different.

C (36:38)

I'm impressed with Lane. What? You know, he. He's very mature of him. Yeah. So, I mean, I can tell story after story because he wasn't, you know, in the 08, you know, when he came after us and all that, so. And I was like, who is this guy? You know, and then we've become actually pretty good friends. And I've just really admire the way he's grown up and the job he's done. Hell of a football coach.

A (37:00)

No, I do like. I do like field rushes, but it's just levels to this. Right? Like, it's part of the game. I love watching.

B (37:06)

So, like. So mark the Virginia rushing the field the instant they won in overtime.

A (37:12)

I love the way they looked.

B (37:14)

We're good with that, right?

A (37:15)

I love the way it looked. And like, I'm just saying, it was a.

B (37:17)

It was an immediate take.

C (37:19)

That's Virginia.

B (37:21)

Virginia. I agree. But Ole Miss is not Alabama yet. Ohio State.

A (37:27)

Bam. Everyone.

B (37:28)

Yeah.

A (37:28)

And by the way, Alabama, everyone rushes to field, so.

B (37:31)

Correct. Correct.

C (37:32)

I'm saying every game we lost at Ohio State, they rush the field.

B (37:36)

All right, so congratulations, Ole Miss. He didn't rush the field and he didn't get fined. All right, time now to go three and out. Sam Pittman was fired on Sunday. Making that now four head coaches let go this season. So we wanted to actually rank the coaches who we think have performed best this season. All right, we're going to get to that one second before we do that. Last week we ranked, I guess we could call it the most intimidating environments in college football. I. I had some other outside comments. Here's one that maybe we should have considered from at Bingo, Stingray, TPC Scottsdale, 16th Hole, Waste Management Open. Definitely most crazy environment I've ever gotten to be a part of. You guys have both been there.

A (38:21)

Yeah, I've been there. As a fan.

C (38:24)

I play. Actually played it. I was in the Pro am with. I think I was with Tebow. And we walked in that place and I looked around and it is really. I mean, your mark, your hands are actually shaking. You're like, just. Just get the club on the ball and they're screaming and throwing things at you. And I. I think I went a little long with it, if I remember right. But I got it back up for a three, so.

A (38:48)

Oh, you up and down in front of all those.

C (38:49)

I got a three, if I remember right.

A (38:51)

You up and down in front of all those people.

C (38:53)

Come on, coach.

B (38:54)

Dude, think of the games you've coached in and the moments you've been. And you're freaked out by a tee shot there in Arizona. What's your problem?

C (39:02)

Doing it.

A (39:03)

Yeah.

C (39:03)

As a coach, someone else is doing it.

A (39:06)

Hey, no, it's a great environment, but the best environment. Is that what you're asking me? The best environment of live sports? Is that. Is that what you said?

B (39:14)

No, no, no. That was just a comment. They just said maybe we should have considered that mo. That. That venue at that moment.

A (39:20)

It's a great. It's a great venue and a great moment. But, I mean, I've been to World Cups, I've been to Super Bowls, NBA Finals, ufc, main events, and I'm telling you, man, it's nothing like being a live sports, man. Live sports is nothing like it, man. But that number 16 at Waste Management, that place is. Is electric and it's fun.

C (39:41)

It's unique. It's a bucket list. You have to see it.

B (39:43)

I'll be in the crowd cheering you guys on, cracking open something. All right, time now to get to the coaching. All right. And coach, we're going to start with you. The best three coaching performances so far this season.

C (39:56)

Yeah, I think that's a different question. Performances you'd have to have goal ish from South Florida. But who's doing the best job? I put Dan Lanning, Ryan Day, and Lane Kiffin with Belema nipping at the toes of Lane Kiffin. So body of work so far in 2025, again, it's landing day in Kiffin. And then I put B. Loma right below it.

A (40:20)

I mean, day is like. Day is day. Ohio State's supposed to do what they're supposed to do. So I'm not even putting him in this conversation right now. It's. It's just the standard. Like. Like halfway through the year, you're not putting saving in the best part. You know what I mean?

B (40:32)

Like, but so, see, that always bummed me out because th. Those guys should be getting their due because they're still coaching the heck out of their.

A (40:39)

They are coaching the heck out of their team.

B (40:40)

And. And to maintain that level of excellence.

C (40:43)

After losing two coordinators in your. In your quarterback, that's what you do.

B (40:46)

Absolute what you do.

A (40:49)

It's what you do. It's the standard. There's different there's just levels to this field.

B (40:53)

Let him rush the field.

A (40:54)

There's levels to this, coach. There's levels to this. But no, you go for best performances of the year. I mean, Dan Lane in Oregon, you definitely got to go him. You got to go Mike Elko at A and M. They. They went on the. They. They went on the road, beat Notre Dame, they beat Auburn, so they have two signature wins already. Then you go Mario Crystal Ball at Miami. Those are the three current best jobs performance, the current three best coaching performances so far. Now, Miami has Florida State coming up. A and M has a beastly SEC schedule, so we'll see. But up to this point in time, I got to go with those three coaches as being the best overall performance.

B (41:33)

Hey, Mark, did you hear the. The Elko quote in the post. Postgame press conference saying he kind of went, Brian Kelly, like, hey, man, ask some questions about how good we are and what we've done. And I. I was like, hey, did you see how that played out the next week for Coach Kelly? Yeah. Coach Elko, don't, Don't. Don't bring that bad juju. Listen, into your house.

A (41:54)

You go to these schools and they teach their players how to deal with media. Like, do we need to start putting. Do we need to start to put these coaches back in media training? Like, just give the people the prop. A political answer.

B (42:06)

The three of us should run a seminar for coaches. Oh, it'd be amazing.

A (42:09)

Hey, I'm gonna start my own damn seminar. Coach, you ready to start a media training seminar?

C (42:13)

No, I'll answer these questions. I'd rather be out working a 60 degree wedge.

B (42:19)

No, no, no. Again. Again. Sir, what can I get you? Chicken, steak, or fish? There we go.

C (42:24)

Biggest decision of the weekend.

B (42:27)

All right, so I challenged myself. I knew kind of the group of coaches that you guys were going to go for, so I said, I'm gonna go with three dudes that you're not going to name. And I'm. I'm fortunate that you didn't name any of my guys.

A (42:39)

How you do this? You let us. And you let us go ahead and give out all the information, and then you just do the counter. So I'm gonna just not put my stuff.

B (42:47)

It's not a counter. It's. It's actually, I. I think. I think given a tip of the cap to three guys that I had a feeling you guys weren't going to hit because you guys totally nailed it. I. I agree with all of your picks, but I wanted to give some love to Some other guys. And you know where I'm going to start? Provo, Utah. Remember last year BYU 11 and two finished inside the top 15. And then in late June they get that bombshell dropped on them that their quarterback, Jake Retzlaff, he's out. Goes to Tulane. Kalani, Sataki and company haven't missed a beat four. No, they're up two spots this week to number 23. They're one of only 20 unbeatens still left. And BYU, they've got a really interesting schedule, guys. October 25th at Iowa State and then a buy and then at Texas Tech. Monster games in the Big 12. I just circled and starred those by gets through those. I think they're off to the college football playoffs. And then maybe we start having that conversation that two from the Big 12 go to the college football playoffs. How about the job Brett Venables has done? Remember all that heat he was under in Norman? He's got the Sooners unbeaten, he's got them inside the top five. He went into the transfer portal. Got a quarterback that's in the Heisman hunt as well. I don't think Venables is getting enough credit. And lastly, we're talking Vanderbilt, man.

C (44:09)

We're talking good Park Lee.

B (44:12)

Yeah, it is. Alma mater off to a 5, 0 start for the first time since 2008. Commodores this week they're up two spots to number 16. They already have wins on the road at Virginia Tech, at South Carolina. Now they have Alabama Saturday as they try to make it two straight wins in a row over the Alabama Crimson Tide. There was something, somebody had written something in like in my script last week on big dune kickoff and I looked at it, I was like, why did they put that. It was like, would Vanderbilt be caught looking ahead to Alabama? I'm like, wait, are we talking. Wait, it's still Vanderbilt, right? Like Vanderbilt is getting some Vanderbilt.

C (44:53)

I just, I just like the. When you watch Vanderbilt play, they're a problem. Energy, the league arrogance. They, they, they walk, they act, they don't act like Vanderbilt. I think correct coach has done I. If I had to redo it. That's a great call, Rob. We've all been in Vanderbilt Stadium.

A (45:09)

They're not the Vanderbilt they once were. They are a problem.

C (45:13)

They are quarterback. And I mean that is. It is fun to watch. Good. Good for them, man.

B (45:17)

Yeah, I'm really happy for them.

C (45:18)

I hope that city jumps all over them too.

B (45:20)

They should, right? Such a great sporting town.

A (45:23)

They could jump all over his ass after we tapped that ass.

B (45:26)

Yeah, well, They're. They're too busy. You know, I'm sick of this ruling over Tennessee, right, that they need to give Vandy some love. You're right.

C (45:33)

Hey, Mark, you and Rob throw a couple dinero on this one. You go ahead, take. You're gonna take.

A (45:38)

No, I'm taking off.

B (45:40)

Oh, no, I'm points.

A (45:44)

You ever heard of Nathaniel? I'm giving no points and I'm taking all bets.

B (45:49)

All right, so let us know in the comments section who had the best list again. My name is Rob Stone. Feel free to throw that in there. Maybe we'll feature it next week. Time now for two minute drill. We're going up.

A (46:00)

You know what week this is?

B (46:01)

Yeah.

A (46:02)

Hey, I ain't trying to hear no Vandy love.

B (46:04)

Hey, man, I'm getting them in while.

A (46:06)

I ain't trying to hear no Vandy Love today.

B (46:09)

Two minute drill it is. Brought to you by FanDuel Visit FanDuel.com triple option to download the app and take advantage of a 50 profit boost today. I'll go first because Mark gets surly if I go last, apparently. Number 11, Texas Tech at Houston. Two of the four unbeatens left in the Big 12. That's right, I said at Texas Tech, favored by 12 and a half. The over, under 50 and a half. First, can we give some props to Willie Fritz and the Houston Cougars last season, his first year, 4 and 8, 3 and 6 in conference play. Here in year two under Willie Fritz, they have a defense that is top 20 in the overall category, in the passing category and the scoring category. They brought in former Texas A and M quarterback Connor Wegman, totaled 980 yards through the air with his legs. He's been a really nice addition. But they have what I think we all consider the class of the Big 12 right now coming into town, Red Raiders, second in the nation in yards and points per game. But it's their defense which is kind of turning the heads and making believers out of folks down there in Lubbock. Number 11 overall defense. It's number two in rush defense. They're allowing 56 rushing yards a game, guys, and they're eighth in scoring allowed two weeks ago. Remember, they won at Utah, then had a buy in that game, though their quarterback, Baron Morton knocked out. He should be good. He should be good. But even if he can't go, we saw how good Will Hammond was coming on in relief for him, so. So Texas Tech is great at that quarterback position. And do you remember coach Joey McGuire on the triple option last week? What was that little Insight he gave us. His fans found a coupon code for tickets to this game in Houston. So there's going to be some Red Raider love in Houston. I like the over and I like Tech to cover as well. All right, Max, Mark, Mark. We talked about this one just a second ago. Number 16, Vanderbilt. Number 16, Vanderbilt at number 10, Alabama. Clearly, if the Tide survive this one, they will storm the field. Alabama favored by 10 and a half. The over under is 56 and a half. Lord, that's a big number.

A (48:26)

You said we're gonna storm the field.

B (48:28)

I'm kidding, my friend.

A (48:31)

We probably deserve it because they did to us last year. Well, I might storm the damn field.

B (48:38)

No, you're not. No, you're not.

D (48:40)

If you're not gonna let Ole Miss.

B (48:42)

Storm the field after beating lsu, you are not storming the field in Tuscaloosa if you beat Vanderbilt. I'm sorry.

A (48:48)

Vanity's a damn problem, bro. Last year I didn't, you know, it kind of caught everybody by surprise, but they ain't catching nobody by surprise this year. They. They're undefeated. Number two scoring offense in the sec. They run the football like. They run the football, like you supposed to run the football. You know what I mean? But. But, man, Diego Pavia, he's been a beast, man. He's been super productive for them. Great decision maker. They have the running back, Cedric Alexander. They have the wide receiver, Junior Cheryl. They have the tight end, Eli Stovers. Their offense scores points, they get yards. So this is going to be a challenge for Alabama defense, who has a lot of injuries, who's been one of the worst rush defenses in the sec, so. But I think we're going to come to play. I think we're going to come ready to play. They showed up last week against Georgia and they fought another team. They're going to make plays, they're going to make their plays. They're going to have their momentum. But you got to fight, you got to stay aggressive. And that's what Alabama did last week. I expect them to carry it over, defend our home turf. Ty Simpson, he's just been so. Playing so great at a high level.

B (49:52)

Has he been electric? Has he been electric?

A (49:54)

Electric and efficient and execution. All the ease, you know what I mean?

B (50:00)

All the ease. I like that one. Remember that one for Saturday.

A (50:05)

But yeah, Vandy, they have given up a lot of yards on defense. They have given up a lot of points on defense. And that's where we come into play. That's where we come to play on offense. I feel like, we're going to score a lot of points. I feel like our defense is going to rise to the occasion. I feel like we're going to defend our home field. We won 35 of the last 36 home games in Tuscaloosa and it's not going to change. We gonna win 36 of the last 37 on Saturday. So the over under is like 10 and a half, which is. I don't get it against undefeated Vanderbilt because I'm not giving y' all no points, but I'm taking Alabama. But in this game, what you say that over under was? 56.

B (50:38)

56 and a half.

A (50:40)

56 and a half. Goodness gracious.

B (50:43)

Seems big.

A (50:43)

That's heavy. No, I'm gonna just take Alabama, man. I'm taking Alabama. What's the minus? Ten and a half.

B (50:49)

Yep.

A (50:50)

I'm laying the points. I'm laying the points.

B (50:54)

Hey, in all honesty, like, like, try, try to put your. Your Crimson Tide love just a little bit to the side and put your heart. Put your heart over there and just talk about your head.

A (51:04)

Okay?

B (51:05)

The win in Athens, how does it change your perspective about this edition of Alabama?

A (51:12)

I feel good about how they've been responding since the Week 1 loss. That's what I do feel good about. And honestly, we have to move to the next game because the schedule isn't. The schedule isn't a cakewalk. You have Vanderbilt coming into town, who is not a joke. You have lsu, you have.

B (51:30)

Remember, by the way. By the way, Vanderbilt coming into town used to be a bye week. It used to be like, oh, good, we got Vanderbilt. We can.

A (51:36)

It used to be. But not anymore.

B (51:38)

Not anymore.

A (51:38)

Not anymore. They have a real. Vanderbilt is for real. You're gonna have to come ready to play. They run the ball and we not good at stopping to run. So you're gonna have to get your stuff. You're gonna have to bring your hard hat and your lunch pail and change your identity to being able to be a tough, physical team that can stop the run. They did that versus Georgia. They were tough, they were physical, they made enough plays, they stayed aggressive, and that's what I'm proud about with them. But you gotta keep doing it. You gotta keep doing it. You got Vanderbilt, you got an undefeated Missouri, you got Tennessee, you got South Carolina, you got lsu, you got Oklahoma, then you got the Barters. So this is. Schedule's not a cakewalk. So the same improvement we've made from week one to week five, we got to continue to make those improvements from week five. Throughout the rest of the season because you have no room for error. And Alabama, we gonna roll. But I'm, I'm proud of how this team responded. I'm proud of how coach Deborah had some pep in his step on the sideline. The whole team looks like they're playing with a sense of urgency, they're playing with energy, they're playing with the effort, they're playing with the toughness. And we got to keep going.

B (52:38)

All right, let's go to Tallahassee now. Florida State, after that Friday night home law or Friday night loss at Virginia, dipped down to number 18. The class of the ACC this year has clearly been Miami. They are at number three. Coach. The Hurricanes favored by five and a half. Going north to Tallahassee. The over under 54 and a half. Your thoughts?

C (52:58)

Yeah. The college football world used to stop when these two teams played. That was. There was a time these were probably a 10 to 12 year period. Mark, before you do, I don't know if you remember those days, Mark, but it was badass against badass. More NFL players on that field. Every starter on both teams are NFL guys. And when I first went to University of Florida, you go into Tallahassee and that stadium, absolutely ridiculous.

B (53:23)

Campbell is going, it is going.

C (53:25)

And my challenge to Florida State is go, go. I mean go again and do it. I don't know if it's been. I know they had undefeated season two years ago, but. But I mean it used to be absolutely ridiculous and then it became not. I remember looking a couple clips where there's 20,000 in there. So this is a big challenge to me. This is a huge challenge to, you know, we're talking about Penn State, the whiteout, Florida State used to be that.

A (53:50)

Yeah.

C (53:51)

So I hope it does come back. But here, here's my question. Is Carson Beck. To me, when I watch this guy play, he looks like a Heisman candidate. He looks like a first round draft pick. And then he throws three interceptions in two games. And that's what got him at Georgia. If you guys remember, not take care of the ball last year, this guy's going to leave a lot of money in the table in his career, not, not just in the draft process. He's got to take care of the damn ball. And I don't know enough about him, I don't know enough how he's coached, but he's maybe, you know, is he taking too many chances he shouldn't take because you watch his cap play. He can do it all, make every throw. He's athletic he's got good size, great release, great arm. And then also. Wait, what? Three interceptions in two games. So if I'm going to say, I think Florida State's going to nut up, I think they're going to keep it close. I think Miami still wins, but I take Florida State into points.

B (54:44)

Okay, let me throw this scenario real quick.

A (54:46)

What's the line there? What's the points?

B (54:48)

Miami, five and a half. If Florida State wins, are you allowing the Seminole fans to rush the field?

C (54:56)

Damn straight, man. Miami. It's Miami.

A (55:00)

Okay.

B (55:00)

All right. I. I agree. I agree.

C (55:03)

They've been down too long. They've been. They've been. They've been rushing the field.

A (55:07)

It's just.

B (55:08)

Sounds like you are Mark.

A (55:09)

It's just.

B (55:09)

Let's get fun. You're a fun hater.

A (55:11)

No, I'm. I love the way it looks for y'.

B (55:14)

All.

A (55:17)

We. We have 18 of them, man. There's just.

B (55:20)

Hey, you know what, though, by the way, hold on. Can we make a set of rules? If you storm the field and you throw a bird or a double bird to the losing head coach or the losing quarterback, you are allowed to take a punch on site, no questions asked, no lawsuit. You signed the waiver. You want to get in one of these players faces that just busted their ass.

A (55:39)

And I saw a Virginia student do that.

B (55:42)

Yeah, yeah, I know. That's what triggered it. That you do that. You're. You're asking for it, and it should be allowed. And if. And if that guy doesn't do it to you, somebody else should do it. I hate that.

A (55:51)

Hate that.

B (55:51)

But I love the energy.

A (55:52)

They think it's sweet.

B (55:53)

Kids running onto the field.

A (55:54)

They think it's sweet. Until you. Until I put these on. You put these on. You talk a lot of mess, Coach. They be talking a lot of mess behind the phone and behind the computer screen. But come see me because I'm really about that. I really am.

B (56:08)

See me.

A (56:08)

I put pause on you, Coach. Oh, man. I ain't gonna play with you. I put pause on you. I got four daughters and a son and a wife, wife and sisters. I'll put pause on you.

B (56:17)

I'm grown, by the way. By the way. When there's the potential now for the rushing of the field at a game that the three of us are working at for. For fox. What do we have?

A (56:31)

All our security. They ready to put pause on somebody.

B (56:34)

We got all of our security, like, putting us in a circle, like they're coming for us. I'm like, hey, I can't I look at Percy and jj, I'm like. Like, these guys don't want anything to do with us. Like, they're gonna walk around us. Like, we need to get to the middle of the field. We need to get to the logo. We need to go find players.

C (56:50)

No, we don't.

B (56:51)

Looking like they're not. Like, hey, man, where's. Where's Urban Meyer?

C (56:53)

Where.

B (56:53)

Where's Rob Stone? We gotta go get Mark Ingram and go celebrate with him. They're just walking around us crazy.

A (56:59)

Percy. Percy. Be hoping a mug would. Percy is ready to dump somebody on their head. Shout out to my boy Percy. Shout out to all our Fox security team.

B (57:08)

They're the best.

A (57:08)

Yeah, they are.

B (57:09)

Sometimes. Sometimes I feel like they're. They're. With that head on the swivel, they're looking for trouble. They're like, you know what? Today is the day I would like Percy, wake up. I would like to hop with somebody. Would try 28 inch pythons. His triceps. By the way, if you ever meet Percy, you know, we should have Percy on sometime just for his tricep pick of the week. That dude's triceps are absolutely insane. What a great way to end this week's edition of the triple option. Remember to follow subscribe rate us on YouTube, Apple, podcasts, Spotify, wherever it is you get your podcast. We're on social media 3x option show. Please leave those questions and comments. We love having them. We'd love to respond to them. As always, thanks to our sponsors, Wendy's, FanDuel and ZipRecruiter. Enjoy the football this week and we'll see you next week on the triple option.