
Retired Navy Seal Mike "Boots" Barker, NFL Rookie Camp, & Georgia Preview
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Mark Ingram II
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Rob Stone
We always love it when there's an opportunity for Mark to sing that song. Oh, sing it, Mark.
Urban Meyer
Georgia, Georgia.
Rob Stone
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Mike Boots Barker
It's tremendous. And I can't wait for people to, you know what, I can't wait for people to first of all see American Hero and then also just hear about the what goes through the heart in some of those difficult situations. Can't wait.
Rob Stone
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Urban Meyer
Yeah, it was different. Different than any of these rookies experience because I didn't have a rookie experience because the NFL was locked out. So my first actual official day with the team was training camp. But when you have great leaders like Boots told us we have great leaders, they come and they rise to the occasion. So Drew Brees flew several of us. I was actually in New Orleans, but flew all the guys in, put us up and we had practice at Tulanes campus. We went through plays, we did seven on seven, we did routes on air. So when you have great leaders, you do have a rookie experience because they need you to be up to par and up to speed when training camp hits. So I didn't have a full blown Rookie experience. But thanks to Drew Brees, thanks to some great leaders in the Saints organization, we were able to get the team together and still work, even though we couldn't officially work in the. Did you guys.
Rob Stone
Did you have a playbook to work out of?
Urban Meyer
Yeah, well, you know, Drew and these players, they know the plays. They know the basic instrument.
Rob Stone
Yeah, but you didn't. You're a rookie.
Urban Meyer
Yeah, but they could tell me what to do. They could tell me the name of the plays. They could be like, this is how you run it. There were some other running backs who had been in the. On the team, you know what I mean? So luckily I had some great leaders who weren't selfish and envious and help me. So I grew as a player even though I couldn't be with the team. So that was my rookie experience.
Rob Stone
Any soft rookie hazing moments, man, all.
Urban Meyer
I had to do was bring breakfast sandwiches every Saturday morning. I had to go make sure get everyone's order breakfast sandwiches. That was my job. But it was all easy, man. Cause some people get away worse. So I was thankful I had some OGs that just wanted to eat good. So that's how they.
Rob Stone
What, what were these breakfast sandwiches? Were they like special, man?
Urban Meyer
They were.
Rob Stone
You have to make, I mean like biscuits. We talking biscuits, English.
Urban Meyer
You have. You can have biscuits, you could have bagels, you can have muffins. It depends on what your heart desires. And I will order it and. And the breakfast sandwich place would make it. I can't believe I freaking forget the name right now.
Rob Stone
But who ordered the most breakfast sandwiches? Was there one dude who just devoured, like, come on, man, you're not going to eat this.
Urban Meyer
Everyone kind of got one or two, you know. You know, bacon, bacon, egg and cheese. You know, sometimes bacon, egg, sausage and cheese. Sometimes the pork chop. They had all type of pork chop. The pork chop Breakfast.
Rob Stone
Who has pork chops for breakfast? Coach, you ever had pork for breakfast?
Mike Boots Barker
Not happening either.
Urban Meyer
Not happening. South in that dirty south in Louisiana. That's how we do it in that dirty south, man.
Rob Stone
Any crawfish? Any crawfish for breakfast?
Urban Meyer
Not for breakfast, but definitely for lunch and brunch. You know, crawfish, etouffee.
Rob Stone
Oh, yeah, now we're talking. All right, we've lost our focus and.
Urban Meyer
We'Ve gotten in the oysters Rockefeller. Broiled oysters.
Rob Stone
Oh, yes.
Urban Meyer
And the red beans and rice. Louisiana, I love you and you love me.
Mike Boots Barker
Baby.
Rob Stone
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Rob Stone
Welcome back to the triple option, presented by Wendy's Rob Stone, Mark Ingram, the second Urban Meyer. How about the guest we got this week here? Mike Boots Barker, retired Navy SEAL coach, pulled one out of his Rolodex and.
Urban Meyer
Said, that's a bad mother. Watch your mouth.
Rob Stone
Let's continue celebrating Memorial Day weekend and honoring those who have served in Boots. Man, you fit that bill, coach. I'm letting you bat lead off here, my friend.
Mike Boots Barker
Yeah, it's honored to see my friend Boots. We just did a Folds of Honor event that bears the name Boots Camp, and we have a bunch of friends donated a lot of money for Gold Star families. That's what Folds of Honor is. I can't think of a greater cause. And Boots and I became friends at a Folds of Honor event at Inverness in Toledo. And we were drinking some brown water, me and a bunch of seals on the back porch, and we drank a lot of brown water that night. And I grew up, and everybody, you know, people know my father was army.
Urban Meyer
Uneducated, like my brown water.
Rob Stone
And some bourbon, some whiskey.
Mark Ingram II
Let's go.
Mike Boots Barker
Whiskey. A lot of whiskey, Mark. And. And we. I had this idea that, you know, let's. I want to be a Navy. You know, I think, who doesn't dream of being a Navy seal? And let's teach him how to shoot, let's teach him hostage situations that. So we did it all, and we had our second successful year. But, Boots, great to have you here. And I'm going to start off with this, that I am very passionate about this. I say it quite often when I speak, certainly to veteran groups. But what is a hero? And, you know, we actually looked it up. It's a guy that's admired, idolized for courage, outstanding achievements or noble qualities. I don't know if I agree with that. That's a dictionary description of what a hero is. I think a hero is that someone that puts others ahead of self. And even if you put yourself in harm's way, to me, that's a hero, and that's how much love I have for our veterans that serve our country, the men and women who have served and are currently serving. And Boots is a hero. You know, Boots is a guy that he can't speak a lot of the things that he's done for this country, but I'm going to get very personal with him and then hand it off to Him, He's a friend, a guy I admire deeply, and his son came down, as did mine, to this event. And we had him up there, and we call it a campfire talk. We have our Navy seals and a couple of Rangers up there talking. And he talked. And his son was up there, Mikey, and talked about when he was very young, I want to say, seven, eight years old, if I remember him talking, that Boots would say, go on deployment and say, and you're talking about real deployment. This is real stuff you're going into. And he'd say, you're the man of the house now. Take care of your mom and the other kids, because there's a chance Dad's not coming home. And I saw Boots get emotional. I saw this kid that grew up real fast, man, when he was seven, eight years old. So, Boots, I want to thank you for your service, and thanks for being a hero and thanks for the. What you've done for our country.
Urban Meyer
Thank you.
Mark Ingram II
Well, thank. Thank you for having me. And. Yeah, that's. That's quite a title. I don't know if I've. I've earned that, but thank you. There's many people that have really laid. Laid it down for us past generations, all the way up. All the way up to the recent ones, the re. Recent, you know, fights that I've been in and. And that I've laid it down. Those are. Those are the true heroes. They really are. And.
Mike Boots Barker
And the reason I bring that up, and I have Mark on here, and I know Mark agrees with me because I talked to his father actually, about this, is that I would get very upset with our players. Not. Not upset, but I would. Just because God blessed you with great size and speed does not make you hero. Scoring touchdowns are not hero. That's fun. That's great. But heroes come awful cheap nowadays, whether you're. You're a musician or a coach or a incredible athlete. You know, I. I just. I just get very upset when I hear people either label or idolize these people. When you and I went on two USO trips and I watched. I watched what these men and women do to protect our country. So thanks again, Boots.
Mark Ingram II
Well, thank you.
Rob Stone
Hey, let's start in the beginning. Boots, how did you get into the military? What was it that pulled you into it?
Mark Ingram II
Oh, yeah. You know, I had some of my, you know, my. My. My heroes. One of them being my father and my grandfather. My grandfather was. Was a pilot in World War II. He flew B24s. My dad later on, obviously, you know, obviously later on, but he was in Vietnam. And you know, it wasn't a whole lot of talk from either one of them about those things. But when there was those discussions, there, there was a, there was a, there was a light in their eye. They were, they were, they were proud of it. It was hard. And I like the idea of the fact that it is hard. And I, and I, and I like that. And you're not, you're not told. Thank you. You're not looking for accolades. You're doing it because. So anyway, those were my heroes, but I also had other heroes too. I love football. And so the way I got into it, basically I was a, you know, thought I was a way cooler than I really was a football player in college. And I lost my scholarship because it turned out I wasn't cool enough to skip all the classes I was skipping and I lost my scholarship. My dad was upset. I was, I was, you know, in my, in my feeble mind back then, I was like, you know, I'm sick of telling everybody telling me what to do. I'm joining the military so I could be told what to do. Right, right. And about along those same, same timelines, I was, I had dated a girl in high school and I had gone back home and kind of ran into my old, my high school girlfriend and we maybe we relived a night or two or something and yeah, a little while later we got started. Let's just say we got started early and I was like, homeboy needs a job and health insurance. And so I married the love of my life. I was very lucky, you know, that find somebody that early and you know, these things take time and work. But our oldest now is, you know, 27 years old and she's my angel. And so that's our oldest and then we have our next daughter. She's in the Air Force herself. She just commissioned in the Air Force, so we're so proud of her. And her husband is also in the Air Force. They're brand new officers together and they're just amazing people. Is so smart. And then, and then of course, as coach mentioned, Mikey, he is our youngest and he is a, he's a, he's turned into a tough, tough young man. And he currently plays football for Carl school months. So we're very proud of him.
Rob Stone
How'd you get the nickname Boots?
Mark Ingram II
I used to have this friend on the team and he was more of a comedian than anything else. Very funny guy. And you know, nicknames can come and go. And this one kind of seemed to Stick. But know there might have been a couple things where. A couple instances where I wasn't very nice to people. And so I got. I got the nickname of the Boots. I suppose just kind of leave it at that.
Rob Stone
We'll leave it at that. That. That's fine.
Urban Meyer
No, man, Boots, we appreciate you, man. I don't know you, but got a lot of respect for you already. You know what you've done. You serve the family man that you are. You've raised successful children. So me with five children, trying to be a father and race successful human beings, I admire that and respect that a lot. I appreciate you. I appreciate your service and I appreciate and respect everything you're about. It's inspiring and motivating. But I am going to take this thing a little, you know, a little lighter here. I got a little fun fact that, you know, Captain Phillips, the movie that we all kind of grew to love. I heard that you were part of the team that went to go ahead and rescue that crew. And I know you can't talk about too much stuff, but maybe you can enlighten us on what that experience was like being a part of the crew that went and saved, you know, the crew from the Captain Phillips, you know, movie thing.
Mark Ingram II
Majig.
Urban Meyer
You know what I mean?
Mark Ingram II
Well, yeah, I'll try to navigate those lines carefully. Yeah, I was very privileged and blessed to work among heroes, coach. I got to walk hallways and got to train and operate and deploy with individuals that made a fantastic team and teams and wow, it was a privilege to be able to serve with those men in those spaces at those times, for sure. And yes, one of the missions was on as we went and it was very successful and we got to save, we got to save a life that day and it was worth it all the way around and incredible leadership and again, incredible team, and I'm very honored to be a part of that.
Rob Stone
Did the movie get the portrayals and the moments right?
Mark Ingram II
I think it did well. Explaining the situation at hand with the Maersk, the company Maersk and the, the shipping. And the shipping channels where they're at. Why. And then I think obviously, Tom Hanks, being just a fantastic actor that he is portraying that, that, that character of, of Captain Phillips and, and what he did and what his crew did and. Yeah, I, I thought it was, I mean, I thought it was good. Obviously, we, we, we came in towards the end of that, that whole thing, and we were able to get him out of harm's way from there. Right. So the movie. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I Mean, it was. I mean, there's things that I wish wouldn't have have been said, like, you know, using, you know, names and, And, And. And dates and places that are probably shouldn't have been, but that, you know, it's. It was a successful mission. And. And it was. It was. It was fantastic. We'll save a life that day.
Mike Boots Barker
Now the boat is actually in the seals. Didn't you say that? You told me that.
Mark Ingram II
Yeah, so there's a. There's a. There's a museum that we have in Fort Pierce, Florida, that just kind of honors our history and our legacy and. And, yeah, so they have the. That lifeboat that he was held up in. And. Yeah, it's. It's down there on display, my admiration.
Mike Boots Barker
For the Special Ops. I used it every year of my coaching career. And just the research I've done it, the friends I've had and the trips I've been on to watch. These Special Ops are the elite of the elite. When you get an assignment. I asked Boots about this earlier today. You get one of those assignments. Mark and Rob, imagine this. You got a family, but you've also dedicated your life to this country. You get one of those assignments, and you're kind of looking at it, reading it, and you start to get briefed on it, and you're like, oh, this is a real one, Mark. This is. You know, this is no game. This is. And none of them are games, but we all know there's some that. Wait a minute. We have to do what. I want Boots to share with you what goes through the heart and soul of a parent, of a husband and of a guy that's protecting our country. When you receive an assignment that there's chance that. And he made the comment that he knows that there's probably going to be a chopper or two not come back. What goes through your heart? Take us there, if you will.
Mark Ingram II
Yeah, some of these things can be pretty tough. You know, there was a. I'll go back to one of my favorite team leaders that I had again. Amazing, amazing mentor, amazing leader. I was probably getting a little too. Too big for my britches, if you will. Getting a little mouthy, maybe on some things, I guess weren't lining up. And he looked and you know the best way to say it? What? Is like, hey, we raised our right hand. And he's like, did you raise your right hand? Just like I did, so shut the up and get to work. And that's respect. That's the very humbling perspective of. That's. That's our duty. Right. You know, somewhere along the lines of people with a lot of things on their collar that. That make big decisions for this country on behalf of this country. And they're sending us in there as tools to get the agenda done and what they need to get done on behalf of this country. And again, it was a privilege to be able to be a part of that. But, yeah, sometimes you're looking at things like, wow, yeah, this could be it. The odds start getting stacked against you. But again, we lean on each other, lean on good leadership, amazing assets. Everybody from our support units is unbelievable. Everything from big infantry all the way up to our pilots in every way, shape or form is truly an entire battlefield team. To get some of these things done, I was. I was very, very lucky in some things, I think. But, you know, they say the harder you work and the harder you train, you make your own luck.
Mike Boots Barker
All right, Boots. I'm on the board of Folds of Honor, and Captain Dan Rooney started an incredible organization that takes care of all the educational costs for Gold Star families. Gold Star's family is obviously the family. That family member paid the ultimate sacrifice for our country. And I fell in love with it. The first event I went to, we met some families that benefited from it. We've also taken on first responders now the first Folds of Honor. And I know Boots. That's when I met Boots up in Inverness at the American Interiors that we're all part of with Steve Essick. So talk to us about why. I'm sure you get pulled in so many different directions, but why votes of honor.
Mark Ingram II
It came down to their mission, and they are definitely not the people that are afraid to put their money where the mouth is. Their mouth is, so to speak. So they say they do it. The. The. The mission of supports is it's. It's huge. It's important. What is it to. To be a. A gentleman like myself and many of my teammates or. Or anywhere. If you're. You're. If you're a wounded vet, if you're a Gold Star wife or child, if you're a. A first responder. Our law enforcement and our first responders are amazing, and they keep this side of the country running smoothly. And to be able to support them and be able to help them out, especially, you know, these lines of work, these professions that we've gone into, they don't. They don't pay a whole lot. Right. You know, these are. These are things where if we went out in the private sector and really hustled, sometimes I feel like if I worked half as hard as some, Some of these things, I, you know, in another profession, I'd make ten times more money, right? Or have. Have made ten times more money. But to be able to especially take somebody that's been doing a job like that, it's a very selfless job, and you're giving them basically a little bit of financial relief. Like, my kids are sympaths, right? It's not everything. It's not the answer, but it helps, and it helps so much. And, and then you start talking with these people and becoming their. You know, you befriending them and you realize where their heart is. And the fact that folds. What I like about folds is it doesn't. It doesn't. It's not just Navy seals or it's not just, you know, the special warfare foundations or all these very specific things. It's, it's, it's, it's broad. It helps everybody. I was always big into a team mentality because every time I was on, in peril on the battlefield, and I looked left and I looked right, my teammates were there. I didn't do this alone. So this is, this whole thing is. It's a greater team. And again, they just, they are not afraid to put their money where their mouth is, and it's, they get it done for a lot of these people that need help.
Mike Boots Barker
Hey, boots. I want to hit. I want to build upon the team concept. I remember this conversation because I used it over and over with my teams. But you're in a SEAL team, you're in Special Ops, and you have so much confidence of your right, your left behind you in front of your team that you're on. It's, it's in your mindset. It's. You're. It's going to be hard to be challenged. You're. You're unbreakable. What happens in Navy seal, because I've done it as a coach, when I, When I have that kind of team, like, bring it on whoever, it does not matter what's on the other sideline. What happens when you don't feel that way? When you, when you have a team that there might be a guy or two, and I'm not saying you have to go that far, but you just. It's not clicking. There's something, and you're getting ready to go in harm's way. I'm, We're. I'm getting ready to coach a team that might lose a game. That's a whole different animal. Take us there. If you will too, please.
Mark Ingram II
Well, it is a, you know, it is a mindset and you have to lean on the guys with their, their, their specific roles within the team, delegation of, of duty and, and authorities within, within the team. That's good leadership, right? Yeah. There's always shortfalls. There's always, you know, if there is a shortfall, somebody up and down the chain of command is infected or affected immediately. Right. So usually the guy lower has to step up or the guy higher should be looking up and out on some different issues and, and, and, and things is now looking down and in which is, which is. Was just taking, you know, basically, you know, mental clarity of, of his job should be looking up and out. As a leader right now he has to look down and in on certain things. And there's always a little bit because there's, you know, you circle around, you always check, you know, and we always would keep a tight eye on each other for, for many reasons, but mostly because we all love each other. But it is, yes, if there is a shortfall, if somebody gets injured, somebody gets hurt, if somebody goes down, isn't able to make a deployment, somebody has a baby so they're late for a deployment or. Right. We're able to train and practice enough where people can step into those roles and you don't slow down as much. And that comes from good leadership. Right. But I have seen it and, and I've experienced bad leadership as well. And, and that it, it kind of sucks sometimes. The, the lower guys, especially in, in like, you know, my, my realms, the lower enlisted guys, you kind of have to just kind of grin and bear it and work around it, right. And see that, that, that, that poor leadership as a speed bump and work away around it the best we can. So, you know, but we have, there's different levels of leadership and you know, you're not supposed to jump the chain of command, but sometimes you could kind of circumnavigate, if you will, some things here and there. Right. But I think for you, you know, I'm just, just, you know, speaking, you know, just being in, in, in teams my whole adult life. For you, coach, it'd be like if you had a, you know, maybe an offensive coordinator or, or a special teams coach or something like that. That just wasn't getting it in that it of what you're trying to bring the team, that culture you have established and made and they're, they're just not fitting in. Right. Or they're not, they're not quite doing your agenda. So to speak, I guess. Right. And, you know, it's counseling. It's, It's. It's. It's practice. And these things. That's the thing, too, is these things, they don't gel immediately. A lot of us very type A personalities, when we first meet each other, we don't like each other. Right. Because everybody's, you know, everybody wants to be the. The big on the block. Right. And then you start establishing that totem pole and realizing what everybody individually brings to that team, and you start respecting. And then you work and you work and you work and you train, you practice, and then you're tested, and then that's, you know, where the rubber meets the road, so to speak. And. Wow. And the amazing things that can happen when everything is clicking and the shortfalls that happen when it's not. And you can usually start identifying those from a distance when you're as valve as we are, when you've established a culture, especially a culture of winning, so you can establish those shortfalls and those weak links immediately. Right. And everybody. Everybody, you know, everyone's gonna make mistakes. We're all human. You put somebody under the microscope and you're gonna see mistakes, all kinds. And it's not. And we would put each other on the microscope quite a bit. But I guess what I'm trying to articulate is we would see these shortfalls from a long ways out. We would try to correct them as they come, and if they were not being. If they're not being corrected by the individual, we would start figuring out what we would have to do to either relieve them from duty if it got that bad, or put them in places where not only they would succeed, but what they were providing the team. They would. The team is going to succeed because it's, you know, it's mission and team first. Right.
Rob Stone
Mike, how often do you realize that you're essentially in a life or death situation? And how does one cope with that and move forward through that?
Mark Ingram II
Wow. Well, you know, not much lately, which is nice.
Rob Stone
Right. Happy to hear that, by the way.
Mark Ingram II
Again, we raised our right hand. We knew what we were getting into, and we. We would practice these things, and it was hard. And we, like. I, like, always cherish the fact. I like the heart. I liked. I like knowing the fact there's not many people that can do this Right. And. And I took pride in that. And. And as we all did. Right. You know, it's kind of like that, you know, equating it back to football. Their coach, you know, that kid on the Football team that wants, hey, challenge me. Put me in, in the most difficult situation, like, hey, we're down and out right now. Put me in. I want to be the one to carry that ball or I want to, I want to get the touch on the ball or I want to, you know, whatever it is, right? They, they want to be put in that, that crux situation and, and sink or swim. They want to challenge themselves. And you know, these are the, these are the, the, the people that, again, these are the people that I the privilege to work with and work for and, and yeah, I can't say enough good things about them.
Rob Stone
How often are you self editing yourself while you're talking? I, I, I hear like these pauses and these, these moments where you're catching yourself like, nope, I can't go, I can't go here. Like, can you just have a normal conversation at any point in your life with all you've seen and done?
Mark Ingram II
There's a lot of things I did that were, you know, sensitive, you know, cloud client information and things like that. There's a lot of things that, that command and you know, in the SEAL teams in general, any, you know, Ranger bat, SEAL teams, SF commands, SF groups. You know, it is if you say the wrong thing at the wrong time, especially in something like this where it's going to be aired publicly. Even though I, I feel like this is a, a, for a very good reason. That's why I'm here here, because on behalf of coach here and, and yeah, you say the wrong thing and it just takes one guy to be like, I can't believe he said that on, you know, here and on, on in front of so many people. And you know, then you start getting bad names and you start like, hey, this guy, this guy just like likes to run his mouth. Like we've unfortunately we've had a couple book writers that wrote about things that they absolutely had no business writing about. Taking our business outside of the command and that is not the culture that we ever established. It would be like taking again going back to football, sorry. It'd be like coach somebody taking your playbook, especially your offensive scheme and maneuver and, and sharing it with the world. You're like, what the hell are you thinking? Like, why would you ever do that? Right? So I definitely don't want to be labeled that. And I owe it to the command, the team and my prior teammates to never let them down. Even post, post Navy.
Rob Stone
I appreciate the things you have done and seen and witnessed for us and for our country. And I know There's a lot of things you can't talk about and we respect that even more, particularly here this Memorial Day stretch of time. Boots, thanks so much for everything you've done for our country. Thank you for taking the time to join us on the Triple option as well. It's been a privilege honor to talk to you and hear your story.
Mark Ingram II
Thank you for having me, Coach. I'll see you real soon, my man. And again, thank you gentlemen. Appreciate it.
Rob Stone
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Rob Stone
Welcome back to the Triple Option presented by Wendy's Rob Stone, Mark Ingram the second Urban Meyer back here with you. The Triple Option Crystal Ball. It is brought to you by BETMGM and we are almost to the NBA Finals. Here's an offer for basketball you won't find anywhere else. Pick the player you think will score first in the game. If it's not your player but he scores the second field goal of the game, you get your stake back in cash. All right, so last week we talked about Clemson. This week we're going to stay in that region and head to Athens, Georgia and take an early look at Kirby Smart and what he's got with his bulldogs this year.
Mark Ingram II
Georgia.
Rob Stone
We always love it when there's an opportunity for mark to sing that song. Mark, will they be singing? 10 regular season wins. The win total set by BetMGM is nine and a half. They always got that half, that little hook. The over coming in at minus 175. The under at plus 145. Right? So it's at nine and a half right now. Last season, 10 and two. Their losses at Bama, at Ole Miss they had ranked wins over Clemson, Texas, Tennessee beat Texas, SEC title game, lost to Notre Dame in the second round of the college football playoffs. The guys just keep departing Athens. And that's a good thing for Kirby Smart. That means you have a healthy, strong program. But coach, 13 players lost to the NFL draft, including three in the first round. How does Kirby Smart just keep reloading, Keep storm troopering up with these talents.
Mike Boots Barker
So quick story. Earl Bruce, my mentor and the guy that followed Earl Bruce, Woody Hayes at Ohio State went down to see Bear Bryant. He went down and Bear Bryant was obviously the legendary coach at the time. And coach Bruce was just starting out and he said, can I get 10 minutes your time? He said, sit down, boy. He's calling him boy. So he Earl Bruce sat down and. And he said, hey, write this down quickly. I don't much time for you. And because coach Bruce asked him, what's the secret to success to be a head football coach. He said, boy, write this down. Number one, scheduling. You have to get to control your scheduling. Number two, scheduling. Make sure you get control of your scheduling. And he said, write this down, boy. Number three, scheduling. So I'm sitting there looking, here you go, boy. Look at. Oh lord, Georgia schedule. They are playing nine. This is an SEC schedule, man.
Rob Stone
Well, you can't control the schedule. The schedule is what it is for SEC wise, of course.
Mike Boots Barker
No, you can control it by scheduling.
Rob Stone
But you can control Marshall and Austin.
Mike Boots Barker
P. Marshall, Austin P. And Charlotte. Marshall, Austin P. And Charlotte. And they got nine, count them, nine home games. Yeah. Come on, Kirby. What in the world was that? So that's the Bear Bryant right there. It's I'm play. We're going to play all. Hey, boys. We're going to go on the road at Mississippi State which not. Is not that hard right now. It used to be really hard. I don't know if they'll get back to it. Auburn. I don't know, Mark. I. Auburn's been down a little bit and then you got 10 loves the.
Rob Stone
Barners when the bars are down.
Urban Meyer
All right, we lost Barner stay.
Mark Ingram II
Now look at that schedule.
Rob Stone
It's. It's. I know. It's what an SEC schedule is. All right, so let's. Again it's nine and a half regular season wins. Let's rip schedule. Marshall and Austin P. Home home to open up two and up. Okay, let's not even. Let's. Yeah. All right. At Tennessee, game number three. First SEC matchup.
Mike Boots Barker
Nico less Tennessee.
Urban Meyer
Duh.
Rob Stone
Home Bama.
Mark Ingram II
Mark.
Mike Boots Barker
Mark.
Rob Stone
Mark. L L Wow. I don't know that was coming, coach. All right, so the dogs at three. They're going to whimper into the next game versus Kentucky. Let's give them four at. At Auburn.
Urban Meyer
Duh.
Rob Stone
Five versus Ole Miss.
Mike Boots Barker
I think Ole Miss might have to rebuild a little bit. I'm here.
Rob Stone
I think so too. Six versus Florida in the cocktail party.
Mike Boots Barker
Yeah, that's the neutral site. I'm. I'm putting a half there.
Rob Stone
I think it's going to be stays at six at Mississippi State. Dub Dub versus Texas half. Marsh Manning half. L L really?
Mike Boots Barker
So you got two L's.
Urban Meyer
I got.
Rob Stone
That's seven versus Charlotte. That's eight versus Georgia Tech.
Urban Meyer
Duh.
Rob Stone
Nine. So they're at nine with a pause on Bama and.
Urban Meyer
And Texas and a pause on Florida.
Rob Stone
Yep, yep. So a couple pauses in there.
Mike Boots Barker
Vegas is right on it again. Damn.
Urban Meyer
I got 10 wins for the. I. I feel like they gonna win one of them three that we.
Rob Stone
Yeah, I agree. But again, you know, they're replacing a quarterback. Whenever we got those programs, these high level programs replacing Carson. Yeah.
Urban Meyer
Gunner Stockton and Ryan Puglisi.
Rob Stone
You know, Coach Smart says he's. He's pleased with how these guys have gone so far. They continue to get reps. They're getting better. What else is he gonna say?
Mark Ingram II
Right.
Rob Stone
But whenever you get those. Those QB changes at these big time programs, man, that always, always kind of.
Mike Boots Barker
I just love how coaches are nowadays. Look at what it says. I think both these guys are doing a great job.
Rob Stone
You know I'm in the program, right, Coach Give them any out.
Urban Meyer
Yeah, because what they say, if you don't have one, you have none. Baby, you got none Minus under the nine and a half for the Georgia Bulldog. Sing it, sing it, sing it under Georgia, Georgia.
Rob Stone
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Urban Meyer
Is it caramel or is it caramel?
Rob Stone
You can find us. Our social media handled that question a couple weeks ago. The triple option. Mark, you're going to be happy to hear this because you get a well deserved break. We're going to be off the week of June 2nd, so our next episode is coming your way. June 11th. School. School. Remember the Alice Cooper song, Coach? You might know this one. The Alice Cooper song. Schools Out. You know that song, right? No, Alice Cooper. I think he's from Milwaukee. Schools out.
Mike Boots Barker
Oh, I do remember that.
Rob Stone
Ever. I used to love that song. I still bang it. All right, so school's out for the summer. What summer trips do you have planned to treat yourselves or the family? Coach, you gotta. You got a couple banger trips coming up this summer.
Mike Boots Barker
Yeah, we got the Cabo. We got. We got some great.
Urban Meyer
How about coming up Cabo coming up.
Mike Boots Barker
Mark, I'm doing a week, three weeks. Oh, you go. You're going, right?
Urban Meyer
Yeah, I'm there.
Mike Boots Barker
Okay. So we're doing the. This is the golf heaven. So I'm going out to San Francisco Golf Club, Olympic Pebble, Monterey Peninsula and Cyprus. Then we're going to the Fox seminar in Tera.
Urban Meyer
Thanks for the invite.
Mike Boots Barker
And then from there you go to a member guest in Gaza Ranch. That's Cordelane, Idaho. And then Shelly goes home and I get on the plane and fly to Ireland and play four days of golf in Ireland and then fly to Scotland and play five days of golf in Scotland.
Urban Meyer
Thanks for.
Mike Boots Barker
That's two weeks.
Urban Meyer
I thought we were friends.
Rob Stone
Coaches got himself a summer.
Urban Meyer
I didn't get that text, Coach. That's messed up.
Mike Boots Barker
Yeah.
Urban Meyer
That'S messed up too, Coach.
Rob Stone
All right, well, Coach, have a good summer. If you guys need me, I'll be working the CONCACAF Gold cup, which begins June 14 and runs through July. That's pretty much my vacation.
Urban Meyer
I'm gonna pull up on you for sure.
Rob Stone
Come on down, baby. You know I love that.
Urban Meyer
I love some Gold cup action.
Rob Stone
I know, man. I know. Full on chaos.
Urban Meyer
We got some Premier League action. Oh, no, wait.
Rob Stone
Oh, man, we're almost. Hey, man, we're almost.
Urban Meyer
No, we're in the future actually. Right now. We're in the future right now. But. Yeah.
Rob Stone
Yeah.
Mark Ingram II
All Right.
Urban Meyer
But yeah, going to cabo here in June 1st. And then the family and I will take a trip to Vegas. We'll be doing Vegas. I got some credits I gotta use. Shout out to some, you know, some prior appearances. I got some credits I need to use.
Mike Boots Barker
So when you go, when you go to Vegas, what time of year?
Urban Meyer
June.
Rob Stone
Kids are gonna love it in July.
Urban Meyer
14Th through 17th, something like that. It's gonna be hot, but we live in the hot, you know, I mean, we down here in Florida. It's heating up right now, dog. It's over. It's spicy out that mud right now. So we ain't worried about a little heat, you know what I mean?
Rob Stone
I saw Coach Talon his brow off before we went on. I was like, oh, man, it's August.
Mike Boots Barker
Has hit Florida already.
Urban Meyer
That winter was beautiful.
Rob Stone
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Podcast Summary: The Triple Option – Episode Featuring Retired Navy SEAL Mike "Boots" Barker, NFL Rookie Camp, & Georgia Preview
Podcast Information:
The episode kicks off with light-hearted banter about Georgia and promotional segments for sponsors like Wendy's. The hosts, Rob Stone, Mark Ingram II, and Urban Meyer, set the stage for a Memorial Day-themed discussion honoring military service, introducing their special guest, retired Navy SEAL Mike "Boots" Barker.
Mark Ingram II opens the conversation by exploring the concept of heroism with Mike Boots Barker.
Boots agrees, emphasizing the selflessness inherent in true heroism, contrasting it with the often superficial glorification of heroes in popular culture.
Boots shares his journey into the military, inspired by his father and grandfather's service, and his initial motivation stemming from personal experiences.
He discusses the influence of his mentors and his commitment to serving his country, highlighting the sacrifices made by military families.
Boots delves into his experiences as a Navy SEAL, including participation in the mission depicted in the movie "Captain Phillips."
He addresses the challenges faced during deployments, the importance of teamwork, and the emotional toll of missions where outcomes are uncertain.
Boots and the hosts draw parallels between military leadership and football coaching, discussing how leadership under pressure is crucial in both fields.
Boots emphasizes the significance of maintaining a cohesive team dynamic, where each member supports one another, reflecting on his coaching philosophy influenced by his military background.
The discussion shifts to Boots' involvement with Folds of Honor, an organization supporting the educational costs for Gold Star families and first responders.
Mark highlights the organization's broad support spectrum, appreciating its commitment to various service members and first responders.
The hosts explore how military principles of discipline, teamwork, and leadership are mirrored in football coaching and player development.
Mark shares anecdotes from his military training days, drawing connections to managing a football team and handling high-pressure situations on the field.
Transitioning to football, the hosts provide an in-depth analysis of the Georgia Bulldogs' upcoming season, including scheduling challenges and performance predictions.
Mike Boots Barker humorously breaks down Georgia's 2025 schedule, referencing Bear Bryant's emphasis on "scheduling."
They discuss specific games, highlighting key matchups against teams like Tennessee, Auburn, Ole Miss, and conference rivals, assessing the Bulldogs' strengths and areas for improvement.
The hosts debate the Bulldogs' chances, considering factors like quarterback changes and team morale.
Mark compares the Bulldogs' strategy to military operations, emphasizing the importance of adaptability and resilience in achieving success.
A significant portion of the discussion revolves around managing team dynamics, both in military units and football teams.
Boots and Mark share insights into handling leadership challenges, such as dealing with underperformance and ensuring that every team member contributes effectively to the collective goal.
The dialogue touches on coping mechanisms for life-and-death situations, drawing from Boots' SEAL experiences and applying them to high-stress football environments.
They discuss the importance of mental resilience, support systems, and the ability to stay focused under pressure.
As the episode concludes, the hosts share their summer plans, reflecting on the importance of rest and recovery after intense seasons.
Boots discusses his extensive summer golf itinerary, balancing personal interests with ongoing commitments.
The episode wraps up with Gratitude and Respect for Military Service, reinforcing the core themes of honor, teamwork, and leadership.
Mark Ingram II [11:00]: "A hero is someone that puts others ahead of self, even if it means putting yourself in harm's way."
Boots [12:44]: "Joining the military was my way of embracing structure and purpose."
Boots [22:17]: "Folds of Honor embodies the team mentality. They provide crucial financial relief to those who have sacrificed for our country."
Urban Meyer [16:42]: "The leadership and team cohesion we foster in football are directly influenced by experiences and values from the military."
Urban Meyer [39:17]: "With the new quarterbacks stepping up, Georgia has a strong chance to exceed expectations and secure a championship run."
This episode of The Triple Option offers a profound exploration of heroism, leadership, and teamwork through the lens of military and sports experiences. Retired Navy SEAL Mike "Boots" Barker provides invaluable insights into the parallels between military operations and football strategy, emphasizing the importance of resilience, discipline, and collective effort. The discussion seamlessly transitions into an analytical preview of the Georgia Bulldogs' 2025 season, blending tactical sports analysis with motivational leadership lessons. Overall, the episode serves as an inspiring guide for listeners, highlighting the enduring connections between service, sports, and personal development.