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The Triple Option
The future of Spring Games, Syracuse's Fran Brown joins, & Texas 2025 Preview
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The future of Spring Games, Syracuse's Fran Brown joins, & Texas 2025 Preview
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- [00:00]
Rob Stone
I think there's another landmine out there.
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Mark Ingram
Texas A&M, sure they got their stuff smacked last year.
- [00:06]
Urban Meyer
Didn't I know they got their smack.
- [00:08]
Mark Ingram
They got their booty cheeks claps last year.
- [00:18]
Rob Stone
The triple option presented by Wendy's head to the Wendy's app to get a $1 JBC or a $1 double stack with offer and additional purchase. I tell you, that music gets me going every single time. I don't know if it works the same way for Coach as it does for Mark and myself, but man, we love that music. And this week on the triple options, Syracuse head coach Fran Brown joins us. We're going to crystal ball year one of Arch Manning running the show at Texas and should we save the spring game as always, rate subscribe over at Apple Podcasts Spotify. Wherever it is you get your podcasts as well as across social media. You can find us at 3x option show new episodes coming your way Every Wednesday on YouTube and wherever it is you find your podcasts.
- [01:05]
Urban Meyer
Say it, Marco.
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Mark Ingram
Light it.
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Rob Stone
Don't light it. Don't you know what's not lit right now in a lot of in a lot of places? The spring game, man, this, the traditional spring game is in trouble. This is just a list transition. That's why you the greatest or absolutely just you like that? I'm trying.
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Mark Ingram
Good transition, man.
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Rob Stone
That's why you're the greatest of programs that have modified programs that have modified or canceled their spring game. Ready? And this is just a partial list. Alabama, Arizona, Boston College, Cal. I went too fast. Cal, Iowa, Michigan State, Minnesota, Missouri, North Carolina State, Nebraska, North Carolina, Oklahoma. We're only on the O's right now. Ole Miss, Texas, UCF and usc. Again, just a partial list. So our good friend Coach Prime, Deion Sanders there in Boulder has suggested that, you know what? Forget canceling. Let's go in the absolute opposite direction. Here's Coach prime on wanting to play a different school in the spring.
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Deion Sanders
Spring game will be televised. ESPN2 will broadcast spring game on the 19th. We got to sell this thing out and pack this thing because the way the trend is going, you never know if this is going to be the last spring game. I don't believe in that. I don't really want to condone that. I would like to play the spring, actually. I like to play against another team in the spring. That's what I'm trying to do right now, to have it competitive, playing against your own guys, kind of get monotonous and you really can't tell the level of your Guys, because you know, it's the same old same old. Everybody kind of know each other towards the end. I would like to style it like the pros. I would like to practice against someone for a few days. Then you have the spring game. And I think the public will be satisfied with that tremendously. I think it's a tremendous idea.
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Urban Meyer
Wow.
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Rob Stone
I just want you to know it's a tremendous idea for me. Little pat yourself on the back, Coach. It was a really good idea. Coach Prime. Thanks, Coach Prime. You know who else thought it was a good idea? Coach Brown up in upstate New York in Syracuse. Unfortunately the NCAA didn't agree this year and rejected their proposal. But it is something that they will look to in the future. Coach, you've been on both sides of this, the NFL and, and obviously the college game. What are your thoughts on a college program playing another team in a spring game?
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Urban Meyer
A typical Dion. I mean it makes you sit back and say what? And then you're like man, what a hell of an idea. I would say though, and Mark, I'm really intrigued by your thoughts here. I did not do that. We did not have a summer term. We were and then something got canceled. It was Covid year so we didn't have a against another team. I was kind of excited to do it. But the one thing that you always have to understand, college boys are different than NFL men. And I'm not saying that disrespectfully. I'm saying we would always try to teach the better players are better practicers. They stay up the non the guys that are fighting and you know, God bless the guys that just aren't going into the bodies yet, they're on the ground all the time. And that's when you lose a knee, that's when you lose an ankle. That's when so great NFL teams and great college teams and I had a few of those, they really knew how to practice. You're in a football position, you're staying up, you're playing with your hands, you're not wiping each other out. You're learning to play a position you are competing. But you try not to put them in win or loser situations because there's going to be plenty of times if you lose one player then I mean that's. That that's very destructive to a team. You lose a great player and you're going against some other college team with some young kids, a Syracuse roles in there and there's some 17 year old player that you know, God bless him, he's trying to Earn a starting spot mark, and he comes in there and takes out your quarterback or he takes out a tailback, hits him right in the kneecap, you know, why did you do that? You know, So I think it's a great idea. I, I'd have to see it, I'd have to learn more about it. And my initial reaction is no, I agree with coach.
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Mark Ingram
I think, I think it's an amazing idea, actually. I think that it would be great for fans to be able to see two programs compete against each other in the spring. I think it would draw a lot of attention. I think it would draw a lot of viewership, and it's something that I'm extremely interested in. But on the contrary, you know, I also understand coach's sentiments here. When you're in the pros and when I, we played, I played. I had several joint practices against, over the years, several teams. We did it with the Houston, we did it with the Texans a couple times. We did it with the Patriots a couple times. And they, they were successful. They were successful joint practices. And then you go in and you, and you play in the preseason game. And it was successful. And I think the main thing that made it successful was that, like coach said, having true pros that know how to practice, who know how to compete at the high level, at a high speed, with high physicality, but staying off of the ground because when you have bodies flying on the ground, when you have bodies, you know, you have to take care of each other to a certain extent. Yes, we are playing, but there is an understanding here that, okay, we need to get everyone out of this thing healthy. And I think my, I think the coach, the coach did a great job of addressing their team like, hey, if there's a fight, you're getting out of here. Like if you get to a confrontation, you're getting out of here. Not doing none of that.
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Rob Stone
And there will be a fight. There will be a fight.
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Mark Ingram
So if you don't want to practice, all you got to do is first period, swing off somebody. Yeah, yeah, you're out of here. You're not feeling.
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Urban Meyer
But I, I, I think this is important, Mark, for people to listen though, that the difference between a 17 year old growing to his body and fighting his ass off at Syracuse to earn a starting spot in a Baltimore Raven practicing against a Houston Texan, to me, that's your different ends of the spectrum right now. And I get it. I, it makes you think again. Prime, I, first of all, I love prime as a person. We've covered him Many, many times. I've known him 20 years, but that's outside the box thinking. The question is, and I think we're going to have Coach Fram Brown on, why would he do that? Is this for recruiting? Is this to gauge competition?
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Rob Stone
Bingo. Bingo.
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Urban Meyer
To have us talking about Syracuse right now, which is all check, check.
- [07:25]
Rob Stone
Yes.
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Urban Meyer
But again, I think the purpose of my point was a 17 year old or 18 year old going into his body.
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Mark Ingram
Yep.
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Urban Meyer
There's a tendency for him to take someone out. They're going so frickin hard and that God bless them. But also they land on the Achilles of a quarterback, they hit an ACL and I mean, I would lose my cookies. I mean I'd be like, yeah, now you do that.
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Mark Ingram
Now you totally understand that.
- [07:48]
Rob Stone
I go ahead. I would, I would just push back. Because at the NFL, you know, you've got some rookies or undrafted players who are like, I have got to impress right now and I've got to go above and beyond. And I, I know maybe that quarterback's wearing that yellow or red jersey. I got at least Nick them, I got at least, you know, be there. And I think that's the same college mentality. So there needs to be tremendous communication, Coach, between the two coaches is what I would say. Right. Like, hey, we're going to run this type of off, we want to run this type of defense. Hey, let's, let's kind of game plan how we're actually going to play this game. Lots of whistles, right? Like coaches need to be on the field blowing the whistle when that play is dead or it's close enough to being dead. Yeah, but I love it. I. And if you're Syracuse, you're Fran Brown and you're trying to make a name in the acc. And by the way, you did a hell of a job in year one in upstate New York. Keep it going. And there is no better PR machine in the world of college athletics right now than what Coach prime is doing in Boulder. And if you can jump on the back end of that cape, take it, man, take it for a ride. I think it would have been just a huge win for Syracuse, not only for that, but also it would give the opportunity to teach some of these young kids on how do we travel and how do we prep for away games.
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Fran Brown
Right.
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Rob Stone
And then their first away game in the regular season isn't going to be such a shock as it typically would be. Going to be like, all right, okay, we've done this already. I know how we do it. We've traveled as a unit. We went through walkthroughs. Is as a team in a place away from our home. We took on an opponent in another arena in front of human beings already. So when that first road trip comes up, maybe it won't be as jarring.
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Urban Meyer
I, I like it, Rob. I like it. I disagree completely, but I like it, Rob. I mean that's great. I'm.
- [09:36]
Mark Ingram
There's.
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Urban Meyer
I said this before and Mark, this is. You'd appreciate this again, I just love hearing from a player about this. So we had the Thousand Rep Club, 2000 Rep Club. When you hit a thousand competitive reps, you never really got to. You got very minimal contact at all. And the way I was look at it is, you know how many times you can get hit in that knee or that neck or the head or the shoulder before something goes wrong. Especially a high end player. When you hit 2000 reps, that means you started for almost two years or a two year starter in spring practice. You were one of these. You're. You're with me. Yeah, you'd have seven on seven and all that, but you would never be in harm's way. And I would post it because I don't. Sometimes you have conflict on a team. Why is he sitting out? Well, it's easy, you know. What the hell are you talking about? Two year starter, pal.
- [10:25]
Mark Ingram
Yes.
- [10:26]
Urban Meyer
You know, you're, you're not get your shit going then maybe you will be, you know, I love it. Fired up about that. But a 2000 rep club, you know, that's the question then. So also this team rolls into town, do you play your ones? I mean there's something to this now, I mean this is not. Hey, let's go play. Are you nuts? No, you don't say let's go. I'm not putting Mark Ingram just one high. You think I'm gonna put his ass out there. And some, you know, like I said, that 17 year old that just came in, he's. He's a, he's an early entry into college. His body and must say he's a bad player, but he's a bad player.
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Mark Ingram
He's not, he's an unexperienced player for sure.
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Urban Meyer
You know, he's just not, he's not grown into it yet. And he hits that kid in the ankle or the knee and you imagine that's the risk.
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Mark Ingram
Man, there's pros and cons to this. I think it's extremely interesting. I think it's a great idea. But it would have to be a controlled environment. There would have to be, you know, meetings between the coaches on how we were going to have our players playing hard, playing fast, but taking care of each other and the coaches. The coach has to drive home the message like, hey, listen, I don't need any superheroes out here, but I need you playing fast, showing me, you know, your assignment and how to do your assignment. So I think it's a great idea. There's pros, there's cons, there's risk, you take care of your guys. But I think it'll be more for the development of the younger players and for the players who haven't, you know, been able to play, had experience on the field. So I think it's a great idea. Pros and cons. It's interesting. We're talking about it here.
- [11:49]
Rob Stone
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- [15:43]
Rob Stone
Welcome back to the triple option presented by Wendy's Rob Mark Urban Back here with you. Before we take you to upstate New York and check in with second year head coach Fran Brown at Syracuse, we want to note that this interview was recorded prior to the NCAA rejecting the spring game proposal with Colorado between Syracuse. So without further delay, here's the head coach at Syracuse, Fran Brown.
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Fran Brown
How y'all doing man?
- [16:08]
Rob Stone
Great to have you coach. Thank you.
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Urban Meyer
I know you're busy. What the heck did you do? Because my whenever I was coaching I always wanted to win one more game than the previous year. You jump out and go 10 and three in your first win. What the hell did you do that for? You're supposed to ease into a Coach. Congrats on a 101 season, though.
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Fran Brown
Appreciate that, to be honest. It means a lot. And I would be. First off, I want to tell you thanks for what you've done in college football, right? You've done an amazing job. And I watched that, the Florida documentary a lot of times, you know, and I appreciate what you've done. You know, those midnight workouts and different things of that nature. Coach, I just appreciate you, man. It's a lot that I've was able to take from that and just to watch and to see how you build the program. And that meant a lot to be able to see that. Just thanks for what you've done in college football. I don't think you get enough credit for all the shit that you did, excuse my language, for all the. That you've done and went through. You know, you. You paved the way for some dudes, man, and had a lot of head coaches come from under you. So thanks a lot.
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Urban Meyer
Well, I appreciate that. You know, Syracuse is in the headlines, obviously, winning 10 games and. And having a great season that you have. But also, this is really intriguing where Coach prime, who I've known for 25, he says some wild stuff, but then when you think about it, it actually makes a lot of sense. And he did it again. He said, let's compete against another team. You raised your hand. I said, let's go play.
- [17:36]
Fran Brown
Basketball has been doing it for years, right? And then other sports go do it. They all go other places and travel and do it. And people even go and work out and train at other facilities. It's just no one's ever thought about let's compete against them. Everyone worries about getting hurt, and I think nowadays they worry about the portal. A lot of things that I'm not worrying about, and I think because of, like, God's always doing something. I had two practices after the spring game. So regardless, we was already going to practice two times after the spring game. So things just kind of set itself up where this will work. And I was like, why will we not go out there and do that? To be able to play against Coach prime in Colorado. And I see that they're building the program. They've just lost a real good quarterback. We lost a real good quarterback. Both teams was trying to find out where they are. And sometimes the best way to find out is to go against other people. Being able to compete against other people when it doesn't necessarily Count record wise, it account for me, pride wise and it account for him because we're both competitive. But in the same sense, we can learn a lot from it. We can learn about our team and I think our coaches will get to learn some things from their coaches. He got some fine coaches on the staff and so do we. So I just thought it was a good mix in that and then financial literacy. They do an amazing job being able to pay their players and things of that nature. And I know I'm doing a lot of stuff that I would like for coach prime and them to be able to do when it comes to, for making my guys signing their contract that they going to save 40% of that pay, different things that we do. So I just felt as though we'd be able to come together and do something out of save football.
- [19:09]
Urban Meyer
Right?
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Fran Brown
You see all these coaches, they saw, if I don't want to play a spring game, I don't want people to see, I don't want to do all that. And it's like, why don't you want people to do what's been done a long time? Like, why are we going to stop having a spring game? Like, that's for your fans. That's not about you. People are itching for football. So now the fact that you don't want to go play a spring game, what are they supposed to do now? What do, what do they have to look forward to? So that was one of the reasons that I thought we should do.
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Deion Sanders
Shoot.
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Urban Meyer
No.
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Mark Ingram
You got a big fan of me already. I love the mindset, the mentality, the, the, the edge that you got. I could feel it, man. And just, just much respect just for that answer. But one thing that I, I do admire is that you get, you have shirts that say 4th and 1 and 4th and 9, and those are two plays that led to three, two of your three losses last year. And when I got to Alabama the year before they lost to Louisiana, Monroe, they lost to Mississippi State and they had it kind of posted all around the facility. And I know kind of what impact that had on us, even though I didn't even play the year before. But like posting that and reiterating that to your players, what does that do? What kind of message does that send? How does that impact your team in.
- [20:13]
Fran Brown
2025 to give them an opportunity of understanding. You don't know what play can change the season for good or bad. So like, who are you to not finish that freaking set in the weight room right now in March, right? Like, who are you not to finish that half gasket. Who are you to take a playoff when you're a backside receiver that you're supposed to go cut out the corner and make sure he doesn't go on that little cat blitz or different things of that nature. So it just lets them know, like, I'm not sure what play it is. And I would tell him that all summer before I was like, guys, it really only take five plays to change the whole season. And you know, it was always talk, right? Guys, there's five plays could change our whole season now. We played eight of our games that we won were by a touchdown or less and we were in overtime four times, right? So like being able to do it. So. And I always tell our guys, hey, we're not the most talented team in the country by far, are we? Not even close to, but we can be the most detailed, accountable, relentless and tough. And what play are you willing to regret for the rest of your life? Pick the play you want to regret. So that's kind of my mindset of where it's at. And then telling the coaches too, because, you know, coaches be the wing one. We try to blame it on the players, but it's the coach. Like your punk ass ain't lock in on all your replacements, right? And now that kid took too many reps. He never got to take the rep. So therefore, when it was time for the game, it was kind of on you, right? And we don't want to take that ownership a lot and being able to do that. So I just always. I'm just on edge like that though, to be honest. I'm always on go. You know what I'm saying?
- [21:43]
Mark Ingram
Where you from, coach?
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Fran Brown
I'm from Camden, New Jersey.
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Mark Ingram
Huh?
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Urban Meyer
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Fran Brown
I'm from Camden, New Jersey.
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Urban Meyer
Which high school do you go to, Coach Brown?
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Fran Brown
The best ones.
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Urban Meyer
Ballers down there, man. That's Jersey boy.
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Fran Brown
Yeah, yeah. From Canada, New Jersey.
- [22:02]
Rob Stone
Hey, Coach, I want to go back to the spring game concept with you. And is this something you're thinking of as a one off or something you would like to do going forward? Do you even sign like a, like a home and away deal with Colorado? What's kind of the, the big picture approach to this for a home and away deal?
- [22:19]
Fran Brown
I want to go there this year and then they come to us next year. I think that just being in all reality, prime has a bigger venue, right? You know, he's Nikon, so like Boulder will be packed with them being able to go there. So you know that would help us, right? It will help me and meaning being able to go there and learn some things from him. Just about some of the stuff that they do overall. Right. Because he's doing a lot of stuff outside of it. But we're looking to do that. And then he said next year he will come here.
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Urban Meyer
Right.
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Fran Brown
Then start to try to plan out other things and other people. But we don't have to play that it will benefit, right? It has to always benefit. It's just a lot that it's a lot involved in it that I want to do or why I want to go.
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Rob Stone
What's the sales pitch to the young men out there to. To get them to come up to Syracuse and play football for you and in the acc when we recruit, ain't.
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Fran Brown
No other head coaches recruiting like me. I don't want to be. It's just, man, I'm just going to recruit you like I'm going to come and talk to you like I'm a hang with you when you come here. You're going to spend time with me like I'm the guy that's going to talk to you. I tell them, listen, I can't tell you this receiver coach stand. I can't tell you that the DB coach stand. I can't tell you none of that. I could tell you that I'm going to be here. I'm the head football coach. I could tell you the offense is going to be ran the way that we run it because that's the offense that I install and that's what we're going to play with me and Coach Nixon. I could tell you the defense now we switched up because I kind of learned the offense. The defense is going to be the defense. So I could tell you that you're going to come play for a head coach that's going to get you coaching with your faith. I'm going to get you locked in on your family to understand what family is more so you're gonna actually love the people that you've been with your whole life even more and appreciate em more while you're here academically. That's just a no brainer. I got guys getting 45 credits a year. Everybody has to take 15 credits each semester. Everyone has to take a mini minister class. Everyone takes two classes, summer session one and depending on your mental capacity of what you can handle coming in because we finish up in August, like 7th, 8th and we already started camping. Depending on what you can handle, you'll take two or one credit. So like I'm guaranteeing you to get a bachelor's degree in three years.
- [24:20]
Mark Ingram
Yes.
- [24:20]
Fran Brown
And I'm just not playing around. Like, I know what it is to go without. Right. I know what it is to. To be really, really hurting, to want to go play in the NFL so freaking bad and don't get the opportunity to do that. But I didn't focus on my academics the way that I should have. I got degrees, but I didn't get educated. I just got an education, but I wasn't an educated man from it. So I didn't understand all those things to do. So I have so many programs set up just to help my young men and help the players. And then when you arrive, I'm with them every day. Everyone talks about, I'm a. He's a players coach. No, I'm a freaking locker room coach. Like, I'm in there with him. The same thing they wear. I wouldn't. Right. The things that they're doing. I do. And I just love it. Like, I'm not taking. I don't take this opportunity that I got to be the head coach for granted because I pray for it. Like, I cry for it. I got turned down a temple job and I was crying. It's right across from Camden, New Jersey. That hurt, like, not getting that job. And then the second time he didn't give it to me, I went to Georgia and God put me in that position to learn more from them. I learned a lot from Kirby Smart and Will Muschamp and all that staff there. So when this opened up, I'm just thankful and happy to have this opportunity to do it. So I'm not going to take it for granted. I took every day, like, I get up in the morning at five something, I'm here boxing or I'm working out, and then the rest of the day I'm like locked in with our players, right? I'm locked in with them. I'm around them like, I'm in it with them. So, like, do you want to go play for the coach that you going to see the whole year and he with you all year, or you want the guy that you really don't even know? Right. I meet with my players six times a year throughout the season. Every day there's a different guy that I'll meet with and I take five guys from 8:00 to 9:00. They all coming in, I call them in to meet with me. So every month you gonna meet with at least 10 minutes. And we ain't even talking about football. I just want to come talk to you about life. Like, what's up at the crib. Like, how your people doing? Because I get to know them, right? So you're not going to ever say, I'm going in the portal because I don't know the coach. You're going in the portal because you don't want to compete. You're still going to have to compete, right? You're going to the portal because maybe here with me, we might be. You can only get 5,000. I don't know what the number is there. They might tell you 10. So go take that money. That money might be what you need right now, but here you're gonna get a lot more than that. And you're gonna be a good football player. Like, we probably gonna have five to seven guys drafted. We'll get about 10 to sign. They ain't had that here in a long time. I love to compete, right? I'm competing right now. Like, see coach. Coach Meyer, you've been a coach, right? For a long time. People don't know, like, this time of the year is competing. I just got a quarterback that I just flipped from a program that's about the son commit to us. And it's like, yo, they. They wasn't talking to him enough. I am consistent. Like, so, like, everybody don't want to compete during this time. They think it's spring ball will be okay. Like, I told them yesterday, I thought our practice three wasn't up to par. And they was like, yo, coach, you gotta chill. One of the coaches told me, I said, if you ever tell me chill again, you're gonna get fired, right? There ain't no chilling. What do you mean I gotta chill, right? I'll never get day three back. I'm never, ever gonna get that back. So I gotta hope everybody else was not up to par. So then that way I'll be on point to be able to do it. But now I just want to win at everything, right? I want to win. I'm excited about winning. I love football. Like, this game has taught me how to be a man. This game has gave me so many fathers figures because my peoples wasn't there. But so many coaches that have been able to be a father figure to me and be able to teach me stuff and show me things that now I get the opportunity to pay that back, right? And the best way for me to pay my coaches back is to try and be just as good as a coach as they were, right? And try to do the things that they done. To help me in my life to be able to move on and go. And so, like, that's, I mean, that's why you should really play for me, because I'm, I'm genuine. I ain't no bullshit with me.
- [28:11]
Urban Meyer
Real.
- [28:11]
Fran Brown
Everybody else gonna come talk to you, and it's all these, like, I don't know how to lie to you. I ain't lying to nobody. I ain't got time for that.
- [28:18]
Urban Meyer
Damn. I'm a Fran Brown and Syracuse fan now.
- [28:20]
Mark Ingram
I'm telling you.
- [28:21]
Rob Stone
I'm telling you, that's making a triple.
- [28:23]
Mark Ingram
I don't know how long you're gonna be around, but I got a son coming up. He's seven years old right now, so. Yeah, I, I, I, I sent him to come play for you. I, I, he got his commitment right now, bro.
- [28:33]
Fran Brown
I just love the game, though. I won't, I promise you I won't cheat it, Coach. And you just gonna see it. Go watch his play and you're gonna say, okay. He appreciates and does it all like, you think I'm playing.
- [28:43]
Urban Meyer
See?
- [28:43]
Fran Brown
Ask our guys about our midnight lift. I'm saying, ask him how.
- [28:47]
Urban Meyer
There's a lot of, you know, it's amazing. Coach Brown is. Every player you ever talk to, they say, who's your favorite coach? They're the ones that grinded them the hardest because they saw something in them, and I can see that in you. So congrats.
- [28:58]
Fran Brown
I appreciate that.
- [28:59]
Mark Ingram
We got to give them the option, though.
- [29:00]
Rob Stone
Oh, you want to do it? Go ahead, Mark.
- [29:02]
Mark Ingram
I want to show it, man. We've been peppering you with questions. 15 minutes you got. You can ask any one of us a question, bro, and let it rip.
- [29:10]
Fran Brown
This y'all faith. Like, where you guys. I don't even got a real question. I just want to challenge you guys to making sure that you can continue to get closer with your faith. Right, everyone. To have those questions. Because there's just so much that goes on, and we all get faced with different obstacles on a daily basis. And I would just say that and turning that Matthews Chapter four, when you look at that Matthews Chapter four, it talked about, that's when they let him in. God led him to the wilderness for 40 days and 40 nights. And it was just about him constantly telling Satan, nah, no, no, no. And he didn't realize that through all of that toughness, he was going to, that he was just getting higher and higher. So I would just say, I don't really got no questions. I've already looked you guys up. I'VE been watching y'all for a long time. A fan, actually, of all you guys, right? But what I'll say is let's get three more people this week closer with their faith because of the conversation they have with y'all.
- [30:03]
Mark Ingram
Y that's what we put out here to do, is to go out there and create disciples. So I appreciate that challenge, brother, and it was great talking to you, man. Big fans over here now for sure.
- [30:12]
Fran Brown
All right, well, y'all be safe.
- [30:13]
Urban Meyer
You too, Coach.
- [30:14]
Rob Stone
Thanks for the time. Enjoy.
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Rob Stone
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- [33:33]
Mark Ingram
Lost to the national champions.
- [33:34]
Rob Stone
Correct. That's a pretty good season right? Outside of winning it, you're losing to the guy who, who won it all. But that was with Quinn Ewers in charge. Now it's Arch Mannings Arch season Arch.
- [33:46]
Urban Meyer
Yeah. I don't know exactly what minus 220 means and plus 170 but you they're double digit.
- [33:51]
Mark Ingram
They're gonna minus 220 means you have to put up minus 220 means you have to put Up $2,020 to win a thousand. Is that am I right?
- [33:59]
Urban Meyer
You don't know either, Mark. I can tell on your eyes.
- [34:01]
Rob Stone
Here's what I know. Here's what I know.
- [34:03]
Mark Ingram
That's what no means you have to put up $2,200.
- [34:05]
Rob Stone
Guys, Texas at Ohio State, week one. You damn well know big noon kickoff is going to be there and I would not be surprised at all if that is a one versus two matchup in week one. So again, the magic number essentially, well, they say nine and a half, but it's 10. So is Texas getting to 10 wins in the.
- [34:25]
Urban Meyer
So I'm going to hand it off to Mark. Here's what I always look at at my team when I was coaching and now what are the landmines? You look right now, the landmines are. There's two gigantic ones at Ohio State, at Georgia, Florida in the day was a landmine. It might be again, DJ Lagways back. So I think there's three landmines. Other than that, I think they run it and obviously the rivalry game.
- [34:46]
Mark Ingram
So that puts them at nine. So the three landmines that puts them.
- [34:50]
Rob Stone
In, they got to avoid one of those.
- [34:51]
Urban Meyer
I just say you're going to lose all three. You come out of that one, you know, two and one or one and two, you still got double digit wins.
- [34:59]
Mark Ingram
Coach, I know what minus 220 means. You don't believe me? It means you have to risk $220 to win 100.
- [35:06]
Urban Meyer
220. So if you bet 220, you get 320 back.
- [35:09]
Mark Ingram
No. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [35:11]
Urban Meyer
So you only win, you get a hundy.
- [35:13]
Mark Ingram
Yeah, you, yeah.
- [35:14]
Urban Meyer
All right.
- [35:14]
Mark Ingram
But you, you know, a player like you, you got to risk, you know, 2200 to win a thousand, 22,000 to win 10,000.
- [35:22]
Rob Stone
So, you know, so just three landmines, just three landmines for Texas, at Ohio State, at Florida and then at Georgia, all three of them on the road. Oof.
- [35:32]
Urban Meyer
Yeah. That's all I see.
- [35:33]
Rob Stone
There's landmines and then there's landmines. Those are.
- [35:35]
Mark Ingram
Well, you got the, there's landmines and then there's mine lands like San Jose State, utep, Sam Houston.
- [35:41]
Rob Stone
Correct.
- [35:42]
Mark Ingram
You know what I mean? So I got Texas going over, I got Texas going over. Nine and a half wins. I'll leave Ohio State as a wash. I got them beating San Jose State, utep, San Houston, Oklahoma, Kentucky, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt. Then you have your landmine at Georgia, Arkansas, Texas A and M. I got them beating all those, those three landmines. I got them winning one of those three and that puts them over 10 wins.
- [36:08]
Rob Stone
I think there's another landmine out there.
- [36:10]
Mark Ingram
Where?
- [36:11]
Rob Stone
I'm not sure. That's always a potential sure.
- [36:16]
Mark Ingram
They got their stuff smacked. Didn't it, last last year?
- [36:20]
Rob Stone
I know, I know they had, they.
- [36:23]
Urban Meyer
Got their smacked.
- [36:26]
Mark Ingram
Last year, Coach.
- [36:28]
Rob Stone
You know, life in the sec, there's always one of those weird outlier games in like in October, November, where you find Yourself in Lexington. Right. Or you're on the road at Mississippi State and you're like, what the hell is going on? When you look at the scoreboard in the fourth quarter and you find yourself in one, I think they're going to find themselves in one on that little two game stretch that at Kentucky.
- [36:47]
Urban Meyer
The question I have, will Arch Manny live up to the hype?
- [36:51]
Rob Stone
Correct.
- [36:51]
Urban Meyer
And I, I remember I got so much.
- [36:54]
Mark Ingram
What's your answer?
- [36:56]
Urban Meyer
I'm. I think it's up in the air. I really do.
- [36:59]
Mark Ingram
It's a coin flip.
- [37:00]
Urban Meyer
Yeah. You know, I, I gotta study the personnel around him because every great quarterback has something in common, great players around them. I'm sure they do. I just don't know enough about him right now. But you know, I just. The pressure on that player to be what he's supposed to be at that school.
- [37:17]
Rob Stone
Yeah.
- [37:18]
Urban Meyer
And what I've seen, he's a good player. I've not.
- [37:21]
Rob Stone
Losing two receivers, losing a tight end.
- [37:26]
Mark Ingram
They got Travion Wisner coming back. He a total tater in the bay.
- [37:31]
Rob Stone
He toast that rock CJ Baxter coming back from injury.
- [37:34]
Fran Brown
Right.
- [37:34]
Rob Stone
If he's what he was as a freshman at tailback, they should be good there. But you're right, he's got the pedigree. Right, coach? Sure. He's got the skill set, he's got the name, he's got the people around him. Whether that's, you know, at a family reunion or in the meetings rooms in Austin. I think he's surrounded by people who are going to give him more than a chance to succeed beyond just his actual talent.
- [37:57]
Urban Meyer
I just, I guess the thing when I've coached people like this, what's good enough, you know, is a Heisman or not? Is it national championship or bus? Last year they went 13 and three. Can he do that with that schedule? I don't know. I mean, it's a schedule that you.
- [38:14]
Rob Stone
Can win a Heisman with. It's a schedule you can get yourself into the playoffs with, with all those.
- [38:19]
Mark Ingram
This cat is a legacy man. He's coming from a deep pedigree of people. You know, I'm big on the legacy train. Father played, you know, won a Super Bowl. I'm big on the legacy train. What's good enough for Arch Manning is to win games. I know that through and through. He came through. When Quinn Ewers was out, he came through, he won games. Did he have growing pains? Yes. But I think those growing pains that he went through this year in wins will help him tremendously moving forward. When he takes the throne as the headman in week one.
- [38:47]
Rob Stone
And staying and staying at one place in this day and age, unheard of. The maturity and the guidance to stay behind a quarterback for two years when you were the number one recruit in the nation, that to me says a lot about that young man. And I'm cheering for him because of that. He's doing it. He's doing it the old school way. I'm gonna stick around for a couple years.
- [39:10]
Mark Ingram
He got that pedigree, man. He got that DNA, man. Yeah, he, he ain't, you know, he got that DNA. Well, we'll find out, man.
- [39:18]
Rob Stone
We'll find out what that DNA is all about. Week one in Columbus, taking on the defending national champs from Columbus. Oh, man, that is. That is scheduling a big dog, baby. That is a big dog out of the gate. Make sure to Follow subscribe rate us on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever it is you get your podcast again. We're on social media 3x option show. Thank you to Syracuse head coach Fran Brown for joining us. Love that conversation. Also, massive thank out as we do every week, to our sponsors, Wendy's, BetMG and ZipRecruiter. We'll see you next time on the triple option.