We Followed the World’s Deadliest Illegal Mass Migration Route. Here Is What We Found.

Summary

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The Tucker Carlson Show

Episode: We Followed the World’s Deadliest Illegal Mass Migration Route. Here Is What We Found.
Date: January 23, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Tucker Carlson interviews filmmaker Anthony (last name not given), who—along with his brother—traveled the illegal migration route from West Africa to Western Europe. Their investigation, now a documentary, sought to expose the realities of mass migration by embedding themselves along key transit points, interviewing migrants and NGO workers, and capturing footage of the journey's impact on Europe.

The discussion is wide-ranging, probing the mechanics of Europe's "deadliest" illegal migration route, the entities facilitating it (including criminal networks, NGOs, and governments), and the existential consequences for Western societies.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

Following the Migration Route ([00:53]-[04:35])

• Journey Overview: Anthony describes starting in Mauritania—the primary launch point for African migrants heading to Europe—then traveling to the Canary Islands (Spain), mainland Spain, France, and the UK.
• Why Mauritania?
  • "Mauritania is a West African Islamic republic...the main launch point" for migrants aiming for Europe. ([01:04])
  • It is geographically convenient and a gathering spot for migrants from across the Saharan and sub-Saharan regions.
• Learning the Route:
  • Anthony attributes their knowledge to persistent research, tracking news reports, and “figuring out” which NGOs to investigate.

Who is Facilitating Mass Migration? ([03:17]-[07:36])

• Complicated Web of Actors:
  • Responsibility is diffuse: “It really is the populations, the native populations of Europe not realizing that this is an existential threat...If there was enough pressure...this would stop tomorrow.” – Anthony ([03:17])
  • At operational levels: criminal organizations, opportunistic states leveraging the migrant flow for aid, and especially NGOs.
• Main NGOs Named:
  • United Nations / International Organization of Migration (IOM) – described as “the king daddy above everything.” ([04:36])
  • Red Cross, Norwegian Refugee Council, Catholic Charities, Assam (Catholic NGO that flies migrants from the Canary Islands to the continent), and Hebrew Immigrant Aid Societies.

On-the-Ground Experiences and Footage ([07:36]-[10:36])

• Paris Street Encounter:
  • Anthony and his brother are attacked by street vendors (migrants) near the Eiffel Tower while attempting to film, resulting in a physical assault and stolen equipment ([09:14]).
  • Anthony reflects, “This is what happens when you let a bunch of foreigners from barbaric cultures that can't assimilate completely overtake your country.” ([09:22])
• European Authorities' Response:
  • “Nobody got arrested or anything like that? No, no, no, no. They got away...” ([10:36])
  • Anthony claims police are reluctant to act decisively out of fear: “If they make the wrong move with these so-called migrants...you might wind up in prison.” ([14:09])

Racial Dynamics and Assimilation ([14:09]-[16:17])

• Policing and Racial Politics:
  • Tucker: “The racial dynamic here is just almost...unbelievable. They're protected because they're not white.” ([14:26])
• Migrants’ Origins and Attitudes:
  • Anthony perceives African and Middle Eastern migrants as “much different” and less likely to assimilate than Latin American migrants; attempts to film often provoke aggression ([15:26]).
  • “Certain fish don’t mix in the same aquarium...It is much different.” – Anthony ([15:26])

Undercover Reveal: NGO Workers, Mafia, and European Government Incentives ([16:17]-[19:24])

• Corruption and Cash Transfers:
  • Secretly obtained interview with an IOM/UN worker exposes that the mafia is paid tens of thousands of euros per migrant boat, and Spanish officials allegedly receive suitcases of cash from EU funds intended to curb migration ([16:35]-[18:10]).
  • Memorable Exchange:
    • United Nations Worker: “Every boat that arrives here, the mafia gets between 50 to 60,000 Euros. That is a game.” ([16:35])
    • “The Spanish government receives a huge amount of money from the European Union... Spain keeps 2 billion. Spain takes 1 billion. In suitcase.” ([17:09])

Critique of Western Media and Institutions ([19:24]-[22:13])

• Why Isn’t the Media Covering This?
  • Tucker criticizes major news organizations: “This is the biggest news story in a thousand years and they’re not covering it at all.” ([20:20])
  • Anthony: “Real journalism...is so costly to do. That’s why... the independent people break the story, take all the risk, and then Fox could just report on it.” ([20:49])

Exploiting Victim Status and NGO Specialization ([22:13]-[24:09])

• Identity Preferences in Asylum:
  • Footage from an NGO office in France shows only “queer migrants” are eligible for help ([22:46]-[22:55]).
  • Anthony: “All the migrants that are coming here that claim to be LGBTQ, it’s BS. They’re just trying to get their papers.” ([23:04])
  • Tucker: “Why would they do that?” Anthony: “It’s a victim class...If they’re gay and they come from some Islamic republic...they really have a case to be here.” ([23:55]-[24:09])

The System: From Arrival to Integration ([24:09]-[25:04])

• Arrival Process:
  • Migrants fly from the Canary Islands to mainland Spain, then are placed in camps for months or years. Many do “nothing all day...only eat and sleep” while waiting for papers ([24:09]-[25:04]).

Legal Foundations and Irreversibility ([26:33]-[28:45])

• Legal Structures:
  • Current refugee policies derive from the 1951 UN Refugee Convention and the 1967 Protocol—now embedded in national legislation such as the US Refugee Act of 1980. These frameworks enable mass migration under the guise of humanitarianism ([27:06]-[28:26]).
• Is It Reversible?
  • Anthony: “You could stop this tomorrow. We’re talking about the most powerful countries on earth here...but how reversible is it?” ([28:45])
  • Tucker: “Obviously, [the aim] was to eliminate...white majority countries in Europe because they’re dangerous.” ([28:26])

The New Europe: Diminished Sovereignty and Security ([28:49]-[31:42])

• Loss of Control:
  • There are now so many migrants in Germany that authorities allegedly worry about raising an army that would be “majority Muslim” ([29:09]).
• Potential for Conflict:
  • Anthony: “The only way I could see them reversing it is...not without some sort of serious, like, civil conflict, because these people will fight back. I mean, these are high testosterone men.” ([29:50]-[30:21])
• Who Are the Migrants?
  • Data obtained from an NGO worker showed “less than 5% women and the smaller percent children—it's all men.” ([30:21])

Comparing US and European Migration ([31:51]-[34:49])

• Threat Perception:
  • Anthony feels migrants to Europe are “much more serious”—more prone to violence and less open to being filmed or questioned, making the European experience “much different.” ([33:58])

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Existential Threat:
  • "[Europeans] don’t realize what a threat this is. And it is, it’s existential and it will be the end of Europe and...the United States as well, the West in general." – Anthony ([03:17])
• On NGO Facilitation:
  • "The king daddy above everything is the United Nations [IOM]." – Anthony ([04:36])
• Harsh Critique of Media:
  • “This is the biggest news story in a thousand years and they’re not covering it at all.” – Tucker Carlson ([20:20])
• Undercover Corruption:
  • “Every boat that arrives here, the mafia gets between 50 to 60,000 Euros. That is a game.” – UN Worker ([16:35])
  • “Spanish government...keeps 2 billion, takes 1 billion [EU aid], in suitcase.” – UN Worker ([17:11])
• Assimilation & Cultural Clash:
  • "Certain fish don't mix in the same aquarium." – Anthony ([15:26])
  • “There’s a real difference between someone from El Salvador and someone from Sierra Leone. There just is.” – Tucker Carlson ([34:49])
• Violence and Policing:
  • “If [police] make the wrong move with these so-called migrants...you might wind up in prison.” – Anthony ([14:09])
• On the Future of Europe:
  • “Europeans are being replaced racially, spiritually, culturally, in their own homeland. And so are we.” – Tucker Carlson ([37:06])

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 00:53-04:35: Mapping the route from Mauritania to the UK; facilitators of migration
• 04:36-07:36: UN/IOM role; specific NGO naming; hidden camera encounter in Canary Islands
• 07:36-10:36: Paris confrontation—physical assault captured on camera
• 14:09-16:17: Police reluctance; culture clash; assimilation
• 16:35-19:24: Undercover IOM interview on mafia payments, suitcase cash, government corruption
• 20:20-22:13: Media critique and journalistic failures
• 22:13-24:09: “Queer migrants only” footage; discussing asylum fraud and identity
• 27:06-28:26: Refugee law foundations, irreversibility of demographic changes
• 29:09-31:42: Army composition in Germany; civil conflict fears; biometric processing

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Tone and Final Reflections

The tone throughout is urgent, adversarial toward mainstream media and NGOs, and highly critical of Western political and institutional leadership.
Both Carlson and Anthony present the migration wave as an orchestrated, existential threat to Western societies. The episode concludes with their call to see the full documentary and further investigation into the migration-industrial complex.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Tucker Carlson]

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[Anthony]

We started in Mauritania and then we went to the Canary Islands, which is a Spanish territory, but you know, so to Spain, the Canary Islands. And we went to mainland Spain, to France and the United Kingdom.

[Tucker Carlson]

Unbelievable. What's Mauritania?

[Anthony]

For those who don't know, Mauritania is a West African Islamic republic. And that is the launch point where a lot of these so called migrants leave on boat and head to the Canary Islands. They leave from other countries as well. But Mauritania nowadays is the main launch point.

[Tucker Carlson]

Why Mauritania?

[Anthony]

Um, it's just a convenient point. That's they sort of come from all over the Sahal and Maghreb up north and then from south they'll come from like Sierra Leone, they'll come from Senegal and other countries and they sort of meet there. And it's also geographically situated near the Canary Islands, so it's convenient and that's where they leave from. But they also leave from countries like Senegal or like, I think they leave from Jordan sometimes.

[Tucker Carlson]

It's kind of crazy though, that you, as an American and your brother also just two Americans, can know exactly how this works. You're just two ambitious young guys, right? You don't work for CIA, right?

[Anthony]

That's right.

[Tucker Carlson]

And somehow you know the migrant route and the means of transporting hundreds of thousands, millions of people illegally, right? How do you know that?

[Anthony]

Yeah, well, we've been studying this for a while. We studied this very intensively here in the United States. As I said to you earlier off camera, you know, we were the first Americans, as far as I'm aware. I mean, somebody could contact me if this is incorrect, but I'm not aware of anybody else that's done it. We were the first Americans to go from South America, from Ecuador to the US border. And when you look at what's going on in Europe, a lot of the same organizations are running the show out there as well. And so if you know, okay, you just read the news, okay, they're landing in the Canary Islands, they're taking off from Mauritania from there. It's not really that difficult to start putting it together. And, you know, as long as you know what NGOs to go check out, you know, what questions to ask, you'll figure it out.

[Tucker Carlson]

I think in the minds of most Americans, certainly our view of immigration is from Latin America to the United States. It's like, starts with Mexican farm workers and then it's all of Latin America. Okay, great. And then when we think of Europe, we think of refugees from the Syrian wars, Muslims from the Levant, but African migration is a lot of it, from the most violent continent in the world. And who's facilitating that? Do you know?

[Anthony]

Yes. It's not an easy answer. So I can't just be like, well, it's just like this one group, this guy. Yeah, right. So it's many people. You know, I would say, you know, at the highest level, like if we're looking at this from an airplane, it really is the populations, the native populations of Europe not realizing that this is an existential threat, because if they did, you know, they would be up in arms tomorrow. And these politicians, these are feckless people for the most part. These are not people that really give a damn. They're just trying to win the next election. They're less concerned about the present and more concerned about winning the next election. Right. And so, you know, if there was enough pressure from the native population, this would stop tomorrow. So, like, at the highest level, that's really what it is, is that, you know, the natives don't realize what a threat this is. And it is, it's existential and it's the end of Europe and it will be the end of the United States as well, the west in general.

[Tucker Carlson]

It calls for revolution of some kind.

[Anthony]

It really does, 100%. So that's at the highest level. Now, lower levels, if we're looking at who's actually doing this, you're talking criminal organizations, you're talking opportunist countries who use this as a means to get, you know, financial aid, financial support, almost like blackmail. And you're looking at non governmental organizations, many of them. And, you know, that's. We could get into that. I mean, they should be investigated, audited, prosecuted, a lot of them. But you know, I notice they haven't been. Well, a lot of them haven't been. No, right. 100%.

[Tucker Carlson]

Can you name some of those NGOs?

[Anthony]

Absolutely. So the king daddy above everything is the United Nations.

[Tucker Carlson]

Yes.

[Anthony]

And their migration wing, which is the International Organization of Migration, the acronym is the iom. And really everywhere you go and where you see this stuff, and by everywhere you go, I mean when you're at key border crossing points, I'll give you an example. In the Americas, for example, you know, when you're going to. When these people cross the Darien Gap, which I've crossed with my brother, we've trekked through that jungle. There is a town called Nakokli, which is on the Colombian side. And that's like the launching point where they. From there they get on a boat, they go to the mouth of the jungle, and they start trekking across. You have IOM workers that were there. Now the flow has, you know, stopped under Trump. The infrastructure is still there. So I do think if we get, you know, Gavin Newsom, for example, in 2028, this could start again. But, you know, we don't have to go there for now. But you have IOM workers there. And what they were doing is they were handing out, I don't know what else to call them, it sounds crude, but rape kits, where these women, they would hand to migrant women, kits that had condoms, day after pills and whistles, like in case you're getting raped in the jungle. And then they pop out on the other end, if they make it, God willing. And then they're put in UN camps and you have the IOM there as well, and giving them aid, handing out maps, that sort of thing. And then in Europe, it's the same thing. You know, what we got on camera was honestly the most incredible thing maybe that I've ever gotten on hidden camera, where we were in the Canary Islands and I was tailing a bus. A boatload of these people had just got off from the island of El Hierro, and they're taken off the boat, they're processed and they're put on a bus and they're driven to a camp. And so I'm tailing this bus to a camp, and the entire time I'm looking for the United Nations, I'm trying to find these people so I could talk to them. Haven't seen anything. And I'm feeling like, are we gonna get anything out of this? And I see this man in a blue vest and I know who that is. Okay, that's The United nations worker. So talk to him and we arrange a meeting and we take him out. And this is when people watch the documentary.

[Tucker Carlson]

They'll see this.

[Anthony]

And so this guy's job was to, or is to, I believe he's still working with them, is when these so called migrants come in to pay them money and get information from them. You know, who did you pay to smuggle you up here to Europe? You know, how was this working? To get information ostensibly so that they could prosecute, be prosecuted by European countries. But what we could get into and what we caught on camera, this guy was so corrupt and admitted to such a corrupt system that he was part of it blew my mind. And we could get into that. But that's the iom, there's the Red Cross, there's the Norwegian Refugee Council, there's many other organizations. There's, you know, Catholic Charities, there's an organization called Assam, that's another Catholic charity that, that flies them from the Canary Islands to Europe. Hebrew immigrant aid societies that Alejandro Majorca sat on the board of. So these are just a few.

[Tucker Carlson]

So the net result of this, the end point of this long journey is Western Europe, where the benefits are the highest. They were the richest countries in the world. Because of this, they no longer are. And the effect has been a radical decline in quality of life for Europeans and in the state of their cities. There's a clip in this documentary that I just want to put on the screen now. This is Paris, France, center of the world for centuries. And this is your exchange with a migrant in Paris. It kind of tells the story in pictures. Here it is.

[Anthony]

There's a situation out here in front of the Eiffel Tower. Yeah, all these guys, these vendors that sell out here in front of the Eiffel Tower.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

Hello.

[Anthony]

Hello. All these vendors that sell right here, huh? No, we want to talk to you.

[Tucker Carlson]

Why?

[Anthony]

See, they get very. They get very upset when you start, when you start talking to them.

[Tucker Carlson]

Here we are.

[Anthony]

Everything okay? What's the problem, man? What's the problem? Hey, what's up?

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[Anthony]

Just get me on film. I'll explain what's going on. Do we lose our GoPro? Just give you a second. We just lost our GoPro, bro.

[Tucker Carlson]

Just playing.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

What the fuck happened?

[Anthony]

Josh, explain. This is your moment. Explain what happened, huh? They tried attacking you? I tried getting them off.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

I.

[Anthony]

To be completely honest, I didn't even feel this when it happened. I didn't even realize I was bleeding. There was just a bunch of blood coming down my face. Even right now. I don't even feel it. But the pain is starting to come in a little bit. I just can't believe how much I'm bleeding right now. Oh, it's starting to hurt. This is what happens when you let a bunch of foreigners from barbaric cultures that can't assimilate completely overtake your country.

[Tucker Carlson]

It's really an amazing clip. I felt sorry for your brother, but I'm also grateful that you got that on tape. Who was that? Who attacked you? Do you know?

[Anthony]

Beats me. And you know, the thing is, in Europe you can't get that information because they have these very strict privacy laws. So we couldn't even get security.

[Tucker Carlson]

There's privacy in Europe. I mean, they put people in jail for COVID vaccine. There's privacy for African migrants.

[Anthony]

That's right. That bash you over the head with, you know, Eiffel Tower souvenirs. Yeah.

[Tucker Carlson]

Is that what he hit him with?

[Anthony]

100? Yeah. Well, we got jumped and, you know, my brother saved my life basically. Yeah, we got, I get mobbed by these people and he came in, started throwing hands, he got bashed over the head. And then what? You know, I got up and sort of broke away and then the police came in and they, they took off. Nobody got arrested or anything like that?

[Tucker Carlson]

Nobody got arrested?

[Anthony]

No, no, no, no. They got away and they got away with a lot of like over a thousand dollars worth of stuff. His phone, our GoPro and yeah, our new partner.

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[Anthony]

And then they let him get away, too.

[Tucker Carlson]

And then they didn't get arrested. They.

[Anthony]

And they. And they let him get away. Like he started chasing him. I Was getting up, he starts running after him. And the police were right nearby. They could have, they, they gave a very like BS attempt to try to get them. It was. They didn't even try. And that was it. And they got away.

[Tucker Carlson]

Yeah.

[Anthony]

And you know, the police out there told us that, you know, if they make the wrong move with these so called migrants. Not migrants, I hate even using that word. These are invader. It's an invading force. But if you use, you know, if you. The wrong type of force with these invaders, you might wind up in prison. And so they're afraid to.

[Tucker Carlson]

Yeah, I mean, the racial dynamic here is just almost, it's almost unbelievable. They're protected because they're not white.

[Anthony]

Right.

[Tucker Carlson]

That's the truth. Of course, it's same in our country. So do you know what country they were from?

[Anthony]

It's really hard to say. I mean, I have no idea. My guess would be Senegal. Just, I mean, I don't really have any reason to say one way or the other. That's just my guess because I know a lot of them come from western Africa. Right, but they could have been from, from anywhere. Who knows? Sub Saharan, though.

[Tucker Carlson]

Yeah, sorry, it's. It kind of takes your breath away to watch that. Well, in Paris.

[Anthony]

Right, but the thing is, the center.

[Tucker Carlson]

Of civilization, supposedly, right?

[Anthony]

Well, that's the thing. It's a, it's one of the most beautiful cities.

[Tucker Carlson]

Right.

[Anthony]

But it's been overrun. And you know, the thing is though, that is a pretty light occurrence compared to what's going on with a lot.

[Tucker Carlson]

Of the roll into someone else's continent and when asked a question, just physically attack someone and steal his stuff and then get away with it is like a level of a grat. Like, where's the gratitude?

[Anthony]

Oh, right, right. 100%. Well, that's the thing. And you know, certain fish don't mix in the same aquarium like these people. You know, I will, I will tell you this. One of the takeaways that I got from this was, and I'm not downplaying what the U.S. is facing, because the U.S. is, you know, facing its own sort of existential crisis when it comes to this. But you know, I will say when you compare these people that are coming from Africa and the Middle east compared to the people that we got from like Venezuela, Colombia and so the Central American states. Yeah, it, it is much different. I mean, those people, those people will assimilate much better. You know, they're all. For example, you could film them and they're cool. The Africans, if you Try filming them, they would try to take your head off. Much, much different.

[Tucker Carlson]

Well, it's a very different place, right? I mean, Latin America is very different from sub Saharan Africa. Completely different. And that's not a value judgment. It's much worse than Latin America by any measure.

[Anthony]

100%.

[Tucker Carlson]

Wow. So I want to put this up. This is a second clip from the doc. And this explains. This is a UN worker explaining to you how this happened in the first place. And that there are incentives the rest of us don't see. Here it is.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

Every boat that arrives here, the mafia gets between 50 to 60,000 Euros. That is a game. It's a game. So now money is involved when money involves everything. Wait, sorry, Money involves mountain, my brother.

[Anthony]

But what I'm saying is it doesn't seem like Spain wants to stop it. It seems like.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Spain does not want to stop it.

[Anthony]

Why does the Spanish government want this to continue? It seems like a big problem.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

Because, you know, the Spanish government would not want for it to stop because every year the Spanish government received a huge amount of money from the European Union. Every year, the European Union gives more.

[Anthony]

Than.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

3 billion to Spain. So what? Spain does 3 billion? Spain keeps 2 billion. Spain takes 1 billion. In cartoon. In cartoon or in suitcase? In suitcase.

[Anthony]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

Government will take one billion. Suitcase.

[Anthony]

Yeah.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

Put on flight, go to Mauritania. Maybe the government spoke with like 10 people from routine. The top. From the top.

[Anthony]

Yeah.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

Those group of people that government is going to meet with. The money is not. It's not by check, it's not by transfer. It's in cartoon. It's in. It's in luggage.

[Anthony]

Wait, what? Wait, you're serious?

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

Luggage, Luggage. Luggage. Luggage suit.

[Anthony]

Wait, they actually bring a suitcase of cash.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

Okay, so. So the suitcase put on the table. That's why I make it a game.

[Anthony]

Wait, are you serious right now?

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

We are talking something serious, my brother.

[Tucker Carlson]

Whoa.

[Anthony]

They actually pay in cash?

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

Of course in cash. In cash. Not transfer? No, in cash.

[Tucker Carlson]

I love how the random African guy tells you the truth about the economics behind it.

[Anthony]

Yeah, well, it wasn't a random African guy. That's the guy I'm telling. That is a United nations representative.

[Tucker Carlson]

No, but I'm just saying there is. And you notice this when you go to Africa, there is a kind of lack of guardedness, like, oh, yeah. It's not a place where people say what they think they have to say. They kind of say what's obvious, which is what I like about Africa. But he Knows he's part of the system.

[Anthony]

Oh, 100%. 100%. And he's been with the IOM for years. Before that, he was with another NGO. I believe he was with Assam. That's one of the. That's the NGO that flies them to. From the Canary Islands to the European mainland. But that was the most incredible undercover footage that I've ever gotten. You know, when it comes to this beat, like the illegal immigration beat, that's like the Holy Grail. Because everybody asks, you know, how was this allowed to take place? What's going on here? And here you have a United nations representative admitting on camera that the. At least one of the reasons why it's allowed to continue is that, you know, Spain gets this money ostensibly to stop the flow, but what they really do is they slow it down enough to a trickle, or it's not really a trickle. There's still thousands coming, but they slow it down a little bit, act like they're doing something so that they could keep getting the money, skim the money off the top and then use the rest, ostensibly to stop the flow. But of course, they never stop it.

[Tucker Carlson]

I mean, you just got that on tape?

[Anthony]

I mean. Yeah, I got.

[Tucker Carlson]

But what's interesting. So how old are you?

[Anthony]

29. About to be 29.

[Tucker Carlson]

How much did you spend on this whole enterprise?

[Anthony]

Yeah, between 20 and 30. Probably about 25,000. Yeah. And it took us about two and a half months. Yeah. All right.

[Tucker Carlson]

God bless you. We're proud to run this, but if you're. You and your brother taking off with 30 grand and some cameras and getting to the truth of the situation, like, where are the rest of the news organizations in the West?

[Anthony]

Look, what I will say is this. I'm going to give the Europeans a break here because I'm an American. And so, you know, when I got this footage, and then we're, you know, we're trying to get it to debut on tcn and we're talking to lawyers about, you know, getting E and O insurance and all this stuff. There was discussion like, you can't really be doing this in the European Union. It's, It's. It's different out there as far as their rights to film people and get certain things. But, you know, I'm in America now, and I have the First Amendment on my side. And so if they try coming out, there's really.

[Tucker Carlson]

Okay, well, where's the New York Times? Where's the Washington Post? Where's Reuters? Cnn? They have companies supposed to be covering the news. This is the biggest news story in a thousand years and they're not covering it at all.

[Anthony]

Sure. I guess I'm giving the Europeans a break because if there was a European that tried doing this, that was living in Spain or Germany, they'd have.

[Tucker Carlson]

Well, they live by the Iron Curtain. Right. So I get it. They're not free peoples, but we are in. Our news organizations have a lot more money and experience than you do, and they're not doing this. And you. So you just went and did it yourself. Correct. It's quite an indictment of them, I would say.

[Anthony]

100%. Well, it's institutional capture. You know, these. They're supposed to be purveyors of truth, which some are to some extent. But, you know, real journalism. And, you know, I'm friends with James o', Keefe, and James o' Keefe talks about this a lot, which is that it's just so costly to do real journalism. That's why, you know, organizations like Fox, they just have the independent people come on now because they have the independent people break the story, take all the risk, and then Fox could just report on it. And I don't. I mean, you. You were with Fox. Maybe you know better than I, but I feel like that wasn't the case 20 years ago. Maybe they would do their own stories, but now it's just mostly independent people because it's just so costly to do these things and so dangerous for the big organization.

[Tucker Carlson]

Not really. I mean, I saw Fox. I was there 15 years. I saw them spend millions and millions and millions on fake interviews. They'd fly out 30 people a week early to do some interview the head of state where they never asked a single real question. So they have the money. Of course. It's the most profitable news organization in the world. They just don't want to. I mean, you spend 30 grand. You can't even buy a nice new car for 30 grand.

[Anthony]

Right.

[Tucker Carlson]

That was your total cost. That's not much money in the scheme of things.

[Anthony]

Yeah, 100%. 100%.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

Yeah.

[Tucker Carlson]

To get to the heart of a global crisis.

[Anthony]

Right. Well, where there's a will, there's a way. And when there's not, nothing's going to get done.

[Tucker Carlson]

No, that's right. I just. I just think that your initiative is a mark of shame for the rest of the media. I guess that's what I'm saying.

[Anthony]

Yeah. Well, I appreciate that.

[Tucker Carlson]

Yeah. So here's a clip that I'm not sure I really understand, but I want to know what it means. French woman explains queers only migrant facility. Let's just watch this, and then you can interpret it. Sure. For the normal person.

[Anthony]

Just a few miles from where we were jumped, men like the ones who attacked us turn up at Artis, an NGO that helps illegal immigrants apply for asylum. Could you tell me more about what's the.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

This is for migrants. To help people for asylum.

[Anthony]

To help migrants with asylum.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

Yes.

[Tucker Carlson]

Okay.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

Okay. But queer migrants only.

[Anthony]

Queer migrants only.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

Yeah.

[Anthony]

So if they're not queer.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

No, not here.

[Anthony]

Not here.

[Tucker Carlson]

Only queer if they're not queer. Not here. Kind of love that. What did I just watch?

[Anthony]

Well, you know, it speaks for itself. You know, the clip that comes after that is, we are in Catholic Charities facility in northern France, and then we were talking to a guy, and we ask, you know, hey, do people like BS about being, you know, gay or LGBT or whatever? And the guy says, yeah. He's like, all the migrants that come over here that. All the migrants that are coming here that claim to be lgbtq, it's bs they're just trying to get their papers, and that's what they.

[Tucker Carlson]

Is there a test? Do they have, like, a sodomy test for it, or is there some way to test for gayness at these facilities?

[Anthony]

Not that I've heard of. I highly doubt it.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

I highly doubt it.

[Tucker Carlson]

But to be clear, the reason that people are saying they're gay is not because they want to be more fashionable, but because the French government or European governments give them preferential treatment if they're gay.

[Anthony]

That's right. Yeah. 100.

[Tucker Carlson]

Why would they do that?

[Anthony]

Well, it's a victim class. You know, why would they let these people in to begin with?

[Tucker Carlson]

Right. Great point.

[Anthony]

Yeah. Right. So, well, now, if they're gay and they come from some Islamic republic. Wow. Well, now they really have a case to be here. Right. They could be facing persecution. Oh, my God.

[Tucker Carlson]

They're thrown off a roof in Tunisia or something.

[Anthony]

Exactly. So there you go.

[Tucker Carlson]

So. But there's. Is there any calculation at all on the part of European governments as to, like, what will these people do to improve our country?

[Anthony]

Not that I saw. Look, they show up, okay? And I'm. This is happening in many different countries, but I'm telling you about the route that we saw. What we saw firsthand. They show up in the Canary Islands. They're there in these camps for months, then they're flown to the mainland, and we talk to people. Flown? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They're given plane tickets, and they're flown to Madrid or Barcelona, and they're put in Camps where they will be there for many years, like over two years. Some of them are telling us and they're just waiting for their papers and they don't do anything all day. They don't worry. I mean it's in the documentary. People can watch it. They got, they're saying, you know, no working, no eating, no working, no. I forget what else he says, but he's like, only eat and sleep. That's, that's, he's only eating sleep here.

[Tucker Carlson]

But the point where you fly them to your continent, like does it occur to nobody that the population doesn't want them? There's no evidence they've added anything, only detracted. I'm sure individuals have, but overall they have not added anything. They've only made it worse. So why would you accept the, why would you let the planes land and why would you pay for the planes? I'm so confused. Yeah, and maybe it's that clip you showed a minute ago that they're getting paid to do it. It's a good thing to start the new year feeling fresh and Cozy Earth can help. What better way to give yourself a brand new start than by revamping your bedroom, your sacred personal space to feel clean, crisp and original. That'll make you more creative and happier too. Our friends at Cozy Earth just launched their new Baja bedding set. It's perfect for a comfortable sleep to keep you energized, well rested. Sheets, covers, quilts more all with premium fabrics to make your spot, your personal cave, more beautiful. The bedroom is one thing, but what about the bathroom? Bathroom Cozy Earth has that covered too. Their bath towels are pretty amazing. Made from a blend, believe it or not, of cotton and bamboo with zero twist technology. That means they're plush, absorbent, make you feel like you're at a resort when you step out of the shower. All of this comes with 100 night sleep trial, a 10 year warranty. No risk whatsoever to you. Start the year with comfort. Visit cozyearth.com, use our code Tucker for up to 20% off. That's cozyearth.com, code Tucker. And if you get a post purchase survey, let them know you heard about it on this show.

[Anthony]

Yeah, well, again there's, there's many different interest groups you could say that are facilitated that are allowing this to continue. You know, again, at its core is that this is national suicide and people don't, the, the general population doesn't realize it and then beyond that it's just opportunists, clearly and people that Don't. You could say they hate the country. You could say they simply don't give a damn. But whatever it is, that's ultimately why this is allowed to continue. I mean, at the highest level, 100%. And, you know, it's this adherence to, like, international norms in quotes, you know.

[Tucker Carlson]

Right.

[Anthony]

You had, like, the 1951 UN Refugee Convention, and that came after World War II. And then you had the 1967 protocol, which. So the 1951 convention basically said, you know, you have to take care of these refugees. Like, there were so many stateless people after World War II. You know, you have to give them a place of safe haven. You can't kick them back to a country where they could be facing persecution. But 19, those 1951 UN protocol only applied from that moment and before. So any future events, you know, the 1951 protocol didn't apply then. You had the 1967 protocol, which basically said, okay, now going forward, this is the 1951 convention is going to cover everything going forward. And so you have a lot of countries now that have basically enshrined this in law. I don't know what it is in Spain. In the United States, it's the Refugee act of 1980. And if we didn't have that, for example, you know, a lot of the people that come over here that are just economic migrants, immigrants, claiming that they're refugees and they really have no standing, but they claim that they're facing some sort of violence. The only reason why this whole system exists where they come here, we catch them, we give them a court date and release them, is because of the 1980 Refugee act, which is built on this 1967 protocol. And so my point is, it's this idea of these international post World War II norms that, you know, national leaders are just too cowardly to do it.

[Tucker Carlson]

And the whole point, obviously, was to eliminate, you know, you don't want white majority countries in Europe because they're dangerous. That's. That's the whole idea behind him. But they're actually not dangerous, and they're the source of our civilization. So to destroy them is a, Is a. Is a big step. I, I wonder if it's. It's. Not stoppable, is it?

[Anthony]

Well, it's stoppable, but, you know, how reversible is it? That's.

[Tucker Carlson]

That's exactly. Thank you. Reversible.

[Anthony]

You could stop this tomorrow. We're talking about the most powerful countries on earth here. You know, France is a powerful country.

[Tucker Carlson]

It has nuclear weapons.

[Anthony]

Believe it has nuclear Weapons.

[Tucker Carlson]

Absolutely.

[Anthony]

Absolutely. Germany is a nuclear threshold state. Right. So, you know, Spain, maybe less so. But regardless, I mean, the European Union as a whole, look, they're trying to go to war with Russia.

[Tucker Carlson]

Right.

[Anthony]

So I think.

[Tucker Carlson]

Well, what's interesting is that Mertz has admitted in private at least, that they can't raise an army in Germany because it will be majority Muslim because the Germans aren't having kids and the Muslims are. And they actually don't want to give hundreds of thousands of young Muslim men weapons. Like, they're worried about what would happen if they did that. So they can't raise an army in Germany already.

[Anthony]

That's incredible.

[Tucker Carlson]

That's a fact.

[Anthony]

Wow.

[Tucker Carlson]

And so I wonder, I guess, if it's gotten to that point, we just have to readjust to a new understanding of Europe. Right.

[Anthony]

You know, it's sad to say, and I don't really want to. You know, I don't want to speak for the Europeans. I mean, I'm an American.

[Tucker Carlson]

Yeah.

[Anthony]

I will say that something. It almost feels like impotent to sit here and be like, well, something's got to be done. I mean, it really is a matter of. Of life and death, national survival. And, you know, literally every day that goes by, it gets worse. Every day counts at this point. And the only way that I could see them reversing it is with. Is not without some sort of serious, like, civil conflict, because these people will fight back. I mean, these are high testosterone men. The IOM worker, just to give you some.

[Tucker Carlson]

They will fight back. Exactly.

[Anthony]

Oh, 100. I mean, look, what do you see here in the United States?

[Tucker Carlson]

Ask your brother. Yeah.

[Anthony]

Oh, yeah. That's one example.

[Tucker Carlson]

That was just from pointing a camera at the guy.

[Anthony]

Oh, yeah. Now try to get him out. I mean, they. Look, when we were in France, there was a Frenchman who. Not far from where we were, we were in Calais, and not far from there, while we were there, somebody got beheaded in a parking lot by these people. Okay? So these are very serious, high testosterone men. That IOM worker, the one that we played the clip of earlier, this guy was so corrupt. And he. When we were there, I paid him €500, and he sold me an Excel sheet that showed all of the arrivals from the beginning of the year till the date that I met him, which was like four months. It was like from January till April 15 or something like that. And, you know, it showed how many women, how many men, how many children, and it's like. It's like all men. It might be like less than 5% women and the smaller percent children, really? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's all high testosterone. These are very, very serious people. You have no idea who these people are, by the way. I mean, these could be Islamic State militants. You have no idea. And I wouldn't be surprised, of course.

[Tucker Carlson]

Yeah, yeah. Are they. Are they getting their biometrics taken when they get in?

[Anthony]

Do you know that? I do not know. They tried. I mean, they show up in their documents, so. But they do. I mean, I know they fingerprint them. I'm not sure if they do like retina scans or what else. I couldn't tell you.

[Tucker Carlson]

Ones with HIV get fast track citizenship, I'm sure. Perhaps that's true here. Wow. Did this change you?

[Anthony]

Did it change me?

[Tucker Carlson]

Well, you know, it's a pretty intense experience.

[Anthony]

Yeah. I mean, we've been through a lot doing this. I mean, we've gotten. I've rode the train of death like three times in Mexico. We've been kidnapped by the cartel, my brother and I, we've. And now we've done this. I'll tell you what, here's what I will say. And this is kind of an indictment of Europe. And I don't want people to think that I'm shitting on Europe. I mean, that's where my ancestors come from. Right. But they got to take back their. Their continent. But I will say this. When. So as I told you before, myself, my brother, we were the first Americans to go from South America to the US border to follow the whole route. It took us about a month. And when we were doing that, the fear there was criminal organizations, and rightly so. I mean, we got kidnapped by the Gulf Cartel at the very end of it, encountered other cartel organizations here when we were doing it. Now, there was still the criminal element there. Like when we're in Mauritania, I believe I was, you know, we were trying to meet up with smugglers. They were trying to set us up. There's a whole other story. But really what I was afraid of, not just in Mauritania, obviously, but of course, like in Spain and France and the uk, was not criminal organizations. Even though we're going and trying to, you know, embed with migrants that are getting smuggled, it was the government. The entire time. I was worried that they were gonna realize that there are two Americans walking around with hidden cameras and they're gonna bust down our hotel room door and pick us up and, you know, haul us off in a paddy wagon. That was honestly what I was more afraid about.

[Tucker Carlson]

That's how Intent they are in committing suicide, 100%. And now Keir Starmer is pushing, you know, government killing of its own citizens. Government assisted assisted suicide. Government committed suicide. As if, like native born Britons need more excuses to die or something. I mean, what is going on?

[Anthony]

National suicide, man.

[Tucker Carlson]

National suicide.

[Anthony]

That's what it is.

[Tucker Carlson]

But did your views change?

[Anthony]

Did my views change? Well, look, it is very sad, I will say probably not, because it was more or less what I expected, but, you know, it's just. It's just another thing to see it in person. Did it change? No, but, you know, it was a learning experience.

[Tucker Carlson]

Did you feel more threat from the migrants coming into Europe or the migrants coming into the US?

[Anthony]

Oh, definitely the ones coming in to Europe. 100%. These are, these are very serious guys. Again, like, you know, we've been embedded, my brother and I have been embedded with caravans in Mexico. We're walking up with them through Mexico and we're like in front of the caravan, there's videos that we have of this and, you know, we're literally taking selfies. We're flying a drone that's in front and they're cool, they don't mind.

[Tucker Carlson]

Oh, totally.

[Anthony]

You go shake hands with these people and they almost think it's like their moment to be on TV or something. Like, hey, I'm going to America. And out there, man, in Europe, it's like, if you point a camera at them, look, if there's no police around, I'm. They will slit your throat. And I don't say this flippantly because, look, I love all people. You know, there's great people in Africa too. But, you know, I've employed people in that are. That are in Zimbabwe and South Africa. Very smart people that I've worked with. But you know, on the whole, certain fish don't mix in the same aquarium.

[Tucker Carlson]

Yeah, there's a. There's a real difference between someone from El Salvador and someone from Sierra Leone. There just is.

[Anthony]

100%.

[Tucker Carlson]

On many levels.

[Anthony]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Tucker Carlson]

Anthony, I can't tell you much. I appreciate you doing this doc and letting us air it. And you're a brave man. Your brother's brave, too. I'm looking at him sitting over there, scar on his face. Thank you. Oh, what's your next doc?

[Anthony]

The next documentary? Well, we could talk about this. Maybe we'll collab on this one as well. Yeah, we'll talk off camera. Look, it involves people that have had their. We've already got footage of people that have had their faces sawed off and it's really bad what's going on. And let's just say south of border. I don't want to say much more than that because we're trying to arrange certain areas. So we'll leave it at that, but we'll talk off camera.

[Tucker Carlson]

Good. I can't wait. Thank you for doing this.

[Anthony]

Thank you very much. Appreciate it. You can see all these people here. They just came out of the dunes. There's got to be around 100 of them. And now a boat's going to try to come around and pick them up.

[Tucker Carlson]

In a single generation, Europe has changed forever, more than it has in the last 2,000 years.

[Anthony]

Years. Whoa, easy, easy, easy.

[Tucker Carlson]

This is the result of decades of mass migration. And that migration has destroyed social unity. It's reshuffed the cultures of Europe completely. It's transformed once beautiful cities into slums. In many cities, natives are now the minority. This was not an accident, didn't happen organically. You're not imagining it.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

The police do that because they are.

[Anthony]

Working with the criminal.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

The world who smuggled people.

[Tucker Carlson]

The governments of Western Europe and the United States and Canada, New Zealand and Australia did this on purpose to their own people. They opened their border and they paid for the rest of the world, the Third World, to move into their countries.

[Anthony]

Whatever happens, happens, I suppose.

[Tucker Carlson]

How exactly did they do that? Our cameras found out. We followed one of the deadliest trade routes on Earth, from Africa to the Canary Islands to Spain, France and New.

[Anthony]

This is what happens when you let a bunch of foreigners completely overtake your country.

[Tucker Carlson]

Along the way, we uncovered the entire system of criminal networks. NGOs and criminal governments coordinating together to destroy the West.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

Every boat that arrives here, the Mafia gets between 50 to 60,000 Euros.

[Tucker Carlson]

All played a role in this massive human trafficking scheme, moving people across borders to reshape the West.

[Anthony]

Los Personas a qui.

[Tucker Carlson]

Europeans are being replaced racially, spiritually, culturally, in their own homeland. And so are we.

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

We inform them what to do and not to do so they don't catch them there and they bring them back to Spain.

[Tucker Carlson]

The only question is, will Europe awaken before it has disappeared?

[Anthony]

Do you think we could get killed?

[United Nations Worker / Various Interviewees]

If not killed, at least you will.

[Anthony]

Get, like, beat up.

[Tucker Carlson]

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