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Culture-bearer, historian, and vocalist... Dr. Karen wears a lot of hats in D.C. She sits down with Jess and Amy at the Washington Women in Jazz Festival for an hour of live music and conversation.

Our deep and unyielding gratitude to Dr. Karen Wilson-Ama’Echefu for joining us. More on Dr. Karen at drk-echefu.life. Special thanks to the National League of American Pen Women for hosting us at the historic Pen Arts Building in downtown D.C.

The Turnaround Podcast is a production of Strange Woman Records in Washington, D.C. Hosted by Amy K Bormet and Jessica Boykin-Settles. Amy K Bormet, executive producer. Lyla Maisto, managing editor and podcast producer. Graziella Gulli, intern. Theme song written by Amy K Bormet and performed by Bormet, Karine Chapdelaine, and Angel Bethea.