Adopted from Russia, Leaving Mormonism, & Dealing w/ Hate Comments w/ Maddie Henderson & Matt Scharff

Summary

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby | Episode Summary

Episode Title: Adopted from Russia, Leaving Mormonism, & Dealing w/ Hate Comments w/ Maddie Henderson & Matt Scharff
Date: April 15, 2026
Guests: Maddie Henderson & Matt Scharff (TikTok personalities)

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Overview

In this heartfelt and funny episode, Matt & Abby sit down with Maddie Henderson and Matt Scharff—a popular TikTok couple navigating major life changes. The conversation covers their whirlwind relationship, religious journeys, family backgrounds, becoming first-time parents, and handling public scrutiny online. Highlights include Matt Scharff’s adoption story from Russia, Maddie’s experience leaving Mormonism, and relatable honesty about marriage, social media, and dealing with “unplanned” moments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Life Updates, Relationship & Pregnancy

• Origins & Timeline:

  • Met online in 2019 after Maddie commented “cute” on Matt’s Jack Sparrow TikTok impression.
  • Started long-distance chatting, became best friends, and then dated.
  • Maddie moved from Utah to Texas months after her high school graduation to be with Matt (16:29).
  • Married for nearly three years, with a baby girl on the way.

• Engagement Story:

  • Double destination engagement in Greece with another couple (04:40).
  • High spirits, “peak joy” moment—both couples ended up engaged amidst Greek scenery.

2. Family, Pets, and Community

• Pets:

  • Maddie is a cat-lover; they have two cats and use Rover for pet-sitting (06:18).
  • Both grew up with animals; Matt appreciates Maddie’s cat lady side.

• Family Distance:

  • Maddie’s family is mostly in Utah, Matt’s is spread out; they built a community in Texas and cherish having extended family nearby (39:15).
  • Looking forward to raising their baby near their support system.

3. Social Media Journeys

• From TikTok to Now:

  • Maddie started on TikTok (then Musical.ly) with comedy/lifestyle skits, including the viral “Just-In-Case” series (11:05).
  • Verified in high school (10:17); feels her old content is “cringe”, but acknowledges growth.

• Matt’s Side:

  • Matt noticed Maddie’s authenticity, felt their humor matched, and bonded over creative goofiness (13:47).

4. Religious Upbringing and Life Change

• Maddie’s Mormon Background:

  • Raised in a strict Mormon (LDS) household in Utah—called it “a bubble” (16:30).
  • Parents’ ongoing divorce shifted her relationship with church.
  • Left the LDS church in her late teens, emphasizing the importance of finding faith for herself (19:28).
  • Rediscovered her faith in God with Matt, but is no longer LDS.

• Matt’s Upbringing:

  • Raised Methodist-then-nondenominational Christian; family was supportive and hands-off about relationships (24:02).

• Unique Aspects of Mormon Divorce:

  • The doctrine of “sealing” and what happens if LDS couples divorce (23:09).

Notable Quote

“You have to come to a point in your life where you actually have to make the decision for yourself: do I believe this, or do I believe this because of my parents’ testimony?” – Maddie Henderson [19:28]

5. Starting a Family

• Planned or Unplanned Baby?

  • Relatable honesty about using “pull and pray” for years and surprise at finally getting pregnant after a period of worry over fertility due to Maddie’s painful endometriosis (40:44).

• Maddie’s Health Journey:

  • Chronic, extremely painful periods; considered surgery for endometriosis before finding out she was pregnant (44:20).
  • Pregnancy brought relief from some symptoms and renewed gratitude.

• Anticipating Parenthood:

  • Matt expects it “won’t hit” until he’s hands-on with the baby (48:47).
  • Plans to focus on supporting Maddie postpartum:

    “My job is to be a husband first… What can I do to help you so that this baby can actually survive and that you can survive?” – Matt [50:02]

6. Matt Scharff’s Russian Adoption Story

• Early Life & Orphanage:

  • Born in Russia, his mother died young; older sister (age 11) became caretaker (53:57).
  • Family survived by attending church for meals; all siblings slept together for warmth.
  • Siblings separated into baby/kid orphanages when put in the system.

• Adoption to the US:

  • Adopted at 5, alongside brother, after being selected through a US seminar/adoption program. Sisters remained in Russia (58:21).
  • Trauma of leaving the US to return to Russia before the adoption was finalized (61:16), and challenges of language and cultural adaptation.

• Impact of Adoption Ban:

  • Grateful for new life, laments Russia’s ban on international adoptions:

    “Their lives would 100% be different if they’d been adopted,” – Matt [66:59]

• Sibling Connection:

  • Attempts to communicate with biological sisters via Instagram and translators, but hasn’t seen them in 20 years.

Notable Quote

“If I’m going to create a baby, I kind of want to keep it.” – Matt (about business, but resonant personally) [37:04]

7. Business & Creative Ventures

• Good Good Golf:

  • Matt is a co-founder & face of Good Good, a major digital golf brand born after a failed first venture (bro 5) and now partners with Callaway (28:04).
  • Friendship in business has its ups and downs, but they’re passionate about the company’s growth (29:00).
  • Apparel launch was a turning point proving it could be “more than buddies playing golf” (31:58).

• Maddie Stepping Back:

  • Maddie’s social content slowed as Good Good grew; she prefers posting when she wants, helps with behind-the-scenes emails and organization (79:00).

8. Navigating Hate & Public Life

• Reading Comments:

  • Matt admits to obsessing over negative comments, despite many positives—sarcasm and dry humor often misunderstood online:

    “I read the negative stuff. That ruins my life.” – Matt [93:42]
    “People always think it’s forced… It’s just who I am.” [94:35]

• Maddie’s Defense:

  • Maddie is protective, saying people who misread Matt’s humor “just don’t get it.” [94:33]

9. Fun, Parenting, and Lighthearted Bits

• Audience Q&A:

  • Matt to take a “sabbatical” (paternity leave) after the baby [72:38].
  • Baby girl’s name undecided, joking about “Aluminium Toaster Strudel” and “Jolene” (75:48).
  • Adoption is on their radar for the future, despite its challenges (68:10).

• Parenting “Who’s More Likely” Game (88:42):

  • Maddie will likely cry at baby cries and overshare; Matt will be overprotective and read all the comments.
  • Both are nervous and excited about the unknowns of parenthood, aiming for positivity.

10. Traditions & Wedding Choices

• Kids-Free Wedding:
  • They had a small, no-kids wedding; parents enjoyed the break (82:39).
  • No alcohol, due to family and personal choice [84:36].
  • Discussed how LDS vs. non-LDS culture shaped decisions and daily life.

Notable Quote

“I believe in the power of how we speak to ourselves… I’m going to try to do as much positive as I can than negative.” – Maddie [81:15]

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Notable Quotes

• [04:40] “We just got engaged… Now we’re on a catamaran in Greece.”—Maddie
• [19:28] “You have to come to a point… do I believe this because of my parents’ testimony?”—Maddie
• [37:04] “If I’m going to create a baby, I kind of want to keep it.”—Matt
• [40:44] “Are we just really good at pulling and praying?”—Maddie
• [48:47] “I feel like for the mother, it’s just way different. You guys start right away… Dad, if I’m not here, the baby still survives…”—Matt
• [50:02] “My job is to be a husband first… what can I do to help you so that this baby can actually survive and that you can survive?”—Matt
• [53:57] “Once my mom died it was like she [sister, age 11] was now mom and dad”—Matt
• [58:28] (On adoption via U.S. seminar): “Found an ad in a newspaper… come listen to our seminar about kids being adopted…”—Maddie
• [66:59] “From my perspective… it sucks... their lives would 100% be different.”—Matt
• [93:42] “No, I read the negative stuff. Matt. That ruins my life.”—Matt
• [94:33] “It actually breaks my heart because he is like the sweetest person ever. It’s because he’s really funny. But if people don’t like the humor...” — Maddie
• [81:15] “I believe in the power of how we speak to ourselves… I’m going to try to do as much positive as I can than negative.”—Maddie

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• 02:11 – How they met, long-distance, moving in together
• 04:40 – Engagement story in Greece
• 09:17 – Maddie’s TikTok origins
• 16:30 – Maddie leaving Mormon culture and moving to Texas
• 19:28 – Rejecting LDS identity, forging their own faith
• 28:04 – “Good Good” golf brand origins and journey
• 39:15 – Community and building family in Texas
• 40:44 – Honest sex/fertility talk, “pull and pray”
• 44:20 – Maddie’s health struggles and pregnancy
• 48:47 – Anticipating fatherhood
• 53:57 – Matt’s Russian orphanage story
• 58:28 – Adoption process to U.S.
• 66:59 – Ban on Russian adoptions: reflections
• 72:38 – Matt’s planned paternity leave
• 75:48 – Baby naming jokes and options
• 81:15 – Maddie’s mindset on new motherhood
• 82:39 – Kids-free wedding explanation
• 88:42 – Parenting “Who’s More Likely” game
• 93:42 – Matt on hate comments
• 94:33 – Maddie on internet humor v. reality

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Conclusion

Matt & Abby’s signature blend of warmth and humor shines through a dynamic, vulnerable conversation with Maddie and Matt. This episode offers rare insight into adoption, religious change, partnership, starting a family, and dealing with the challenges (and ridiculousness) of digital fame—all while keeping things genuine and entertaining.

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Where to Find Matt & Maddie:

• Instagram: Both are active (98:28)
• YouTube: Matt posts and interacts frequently
• Streaming: Matt also streams regularly (98:40)

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Memorable Moment

“People always think it’s forced and like on purposely trying to do it… I think she’s being herself. I mean, I obviously didn't know her, but I was like, looks like she’s just trying to be Maddie, whoever that is.” —Matt, on meeting Maddie online [14:23]

Transcript

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[Maddie Henderson]

The Mormon culture I was raised in, I was at the point where I'm like, I just need to get out. We just moved in together.

[Host Abby]

What did your mom think?

[Maddie Henderson]

Well, she wasn't for it.

[Host Abby]

Maddie Henderson and Matt Scharf are a famous TikTok couple that recently announced their pregnant with their first baby.

[Maddie Henderson]

We've been doing pull and pray for like the last three or four years.

[Co-host]

Gotta be careful with that one.

[Maddie Henderson]

And it started to kind of get in my mind. I'm like, are we just really good at pulling and praying?

[Matt Scharf]

It sure is.

[Host Abby]

Matt is best known for his famous Golf Channel. Good, good. But most people don't know that he was adopted from an orphanage in Russia when he was only about 5 years old.

[Maddie Henderson]

Matt went to the baby orphanage and the big kid orphanage. You kind of had to fight for what you want. And in the baby orphanage, the cuter you are, the more the love and attention. Attention you get.

[Host Abby]

When you read comments, are you reading positive stuff?

[Matt Scharf]

And you're like, no, I read the negative stuff. Matt. That freaking ruins my life.

[Co-host]

Sarcasm does not read online.

[Matt Scharf]

No, it's horrible.

[Maddie Henderson]

It's just because he's himself.

[Co-host]

They just don't like him.

[Host Abby]

What's up, dudes? And welcome back to the unplanned podcast, baby.

[Co-host]

Yeah. Today we have the honor of talking to Matt and Maddie, which your names go together so well.

[Maddie Henderson]

People say that a lot.

[Co-host]

Matt and Maddie, it's so easy to remember.

[Maddie Henderson]

And I'm like, I guess.

[Host Abby]

How are you guys feeling? I mean, you have a baby on the way. You just got married less than a year ago. A lot of big life changes happening for you guys.

[Maddie Henderson]

We got married almost three years ago.

[Co-host]

We said that was.

[Host Abby]

Why did I have it in my notes that it was literally like last

[Co-host]

year, it was 20, 23.

[Maddie Henderson]

You know, I do post about it. Like, like, I'll do.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, she might like.

[Maddie Henderson]

And it was like wedding pictures because people have thought that, wow, sure.

[Host Abby]

So it's like you post stuff like it's new, but it's really from like two years ago.

[Maddie Henderson]

It's like, I'm like, happy one year. Happy two years.

[Host Abby]

See, you fooled me. I literally. I thought you guys been married for like six months, so.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah, yeah. We're almost come up on three years in August.

[Host Abby]

Oh, my God. Congratulations on three years of marriage. You guys. Do you still like each other?

[Maddie Henderson]

Like, how is that more anything?

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, of course we do. Of course we do.

[Maddie Henderson]

So I graduated in 2020. I know.

[Co-host]

I was.

[Maddie Henderson]

I was one of those kids and graduated in 2020. And we were talking online, and Covid happened because he was in Kansas. I was in Utah. We met online. We were talking, and, like, right after I graduated, I moved to Texas with him. So we've been living together for almost, like, six years.

[Host Abby]

Wow.

[Maddie Henderson]

And then we got married three years ago.

[Host Abby]

Okay. Why did I think you guys were, like, so much more, like, established and, like, older than us? Like, I read.

[Matt Scharf]

Because of that. Like, that we've known each other for six years. So it feels like we've been married for six years because we started that process so early.

[Host Abby]

Maybe it's because you have a beard, too. Like, I just have. I've got, like, a baby face, no beard. So then I read that you were born in 1999, and I'm like, what? Like, I'm a 98 kid.

[Maddie Henderson]

Like, I just graduated 2020.

[Host Abby]

Yeah, I just.

[Maddie Henderson]

High school.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

Wait, high school?

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

That's what I'm saying.

[Host Abby]

You graduated high school in 2020?

[Maddie Henderson]

I turned 24, like, five days ago. Yeah, and actually, his birthday was yesterday, so he just turned 27.

[Host Abby]

Wow.

[Maddie Henderson]

Thank you.

[Host Abby]

Okay, so then we're the same age right now. We're both 27.

[Maddie Henderson]

Oh, my gosh.

[Host Abby]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

Good for you guys.

[Matt Scharf]

That's crazy.

[Host Abby]

Yeah.

[Matt Scharf]

Wild.

[Co-host]

You guys had kind of a special engagement, too. Tell the story.

[Maddie Henderson]

Oh, here we go.

[Co-host]

We.

[Maddie Henderson]

Well, we went to Greece.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, that was kind of crazy. All right. Perfect. All right, thank you guys for.

[Co-host]

No, I have to tell you, I knew that. And I have to tell you how I knew that. Actually, my brother saw you guys in the airport in Greece. Wait, yes, Eddie asked me.

[Matt Scharf]

We talked about that.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yes, I knew this.

[Co-host]

Okay. Yeah, literally, I met Abby. Or you probably had to bully him into saying anything. My brother's not like this. He's, like, very introverted. We actually really are nothing alike. And so the fact that he actually. He, like, has done this 0% of times. Stop it.

[Host Abby]

Wait.

[Maddie Henderson]

That's so good.

[Matt Scharf]

He's my freaking floss bro. I remember those, you guys.

[Co-host]

And socks.

[Host Abby]

We got. Wait, wait. What is this outfit you're wearing?

[Matt Scharf]

I don't even know. I don't even know what the freak I'm wearing, bro.

[Host Abby]

I don't know. He got your. Your flip Flops and socks on the Puma socks.

[Matt Scharf]

That's funny.

[Host Abby]

That's so nice. Are those the Costco socks?

[Matt Scharf]

Yes, of course they are. Let's go. I've been repping. I've been riding these things for, like, everybody has years.

[Host Abby]

The Puma Costco socks. My mom buys me these cuz she's like, man, do you think they're the

[Co-host]

same quality as real Puma?

[Host Abby]

Absolutely.

[Maddie Henderson]

Wearing the Mykonos shirt, Probably not.

[Matt Scharf]

That's so cool.

[Co-host]

That's why I have to keep buying them.

[Host Abby]

We need to put the picture up on, on the video for everyone to see. Abby's brother and Matt in Greece.

[Maddie Henderson]

And it was, it was cool because we actually went with one of our other good friends, Grand Grant Horvat, who also does YouTube golf, and his now wife Sadie. And so actually they got engaged. I had no idea that Grant and Matt were planning this, like, double engagement thing because I thought we were going for her to get engaged and we were like, gonna, you know, help out. And they thought they were coming for me to get engaged. And so really the guys were like, we're in Greece. We're both doing this.

[Co-host]

This is a movie.

[Maddie Henderson]

So they did it. They did it like the second or third night. Or second or third night, I don't remember. And then the next morning we're like, let's go take photos. Let's have a little photo shoot. And I mean, you can't go wrong in Santorini. Like, everywhere is just beautiful. And then, then he proposed. And then people even asked me. They're like, was that. Did that bother you that like, someone else got engaged when you got engaged or you got, you know, was that like a problem? And I said we were both at the happiest moments. Like, it was like, peak joy. We just got engaged. Now we're on a catamaran in Greece. We were both so happy and so happy for each other. It was like the most. It was amazing. And now here we are a couple years later. That's so fun having a baby girl.

[Host Abby]

That's so cool.

[Co-host]

Aw, girl. So exciting.

[Maddie Henderson]

I know.

[Host Abby]

Did you like all the cats in Greece? There's like a bazillion cats.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yes, they had cats.

[Matt Scharf]

The cats were part of the. They were part of the humans. You go to a breakfast joint and then you'd look to your right and there'd be a cat sitting in a chair, like, with a plate. Like, they just got done eating and they'd taken a nap. And I'm like, yeah, they're really treated

[Maddie Henderson]

like they'll be like, oh, the cat's sleeping. You can't sit there.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah. Like, you can't. You can't mess with them. They're, like, treated like kings and queens. I'm like, good.

[Maddie Henderson]

They're good. They're so precious and so cute. And I'm a huge. Well, just animal person in general, but I love cats. And so we have two cats right now. And, I mean, they're just. I always check my ring. Like, we have Rover checking in on them when we're gone. And I just always check my ring and just see what they're doing. It's like, I know they're like, not actual human, like children, but they're the closest I have right now.

[Co-host]

Right, right, right, right.

[Host Abby]

What? When you said Rover's checking in on them, what is that?

[Maddie Henderson]

You never heard of Rover?

[Matt Scharf]

Man, you're missing out, man.

[Host Abby]

I don't. I'm so confused.

[Co-host]

I don't know what Rover is.

[Maddie Henderson]

So what do you do when you guys go out of town and put them in boarding? We have.

[Co-host]

No, no, no. We have our own babysitter. A dog.

[Maddie Henderson]

Okay.

[Co-host]

She comes here and stays.

[Matt Scharf]

That's pretty much what it is.

[Maddie Henderson]

That's, That's. That's what it is. So you could have someone stay in your home. You could have your animal stay somewhere else, or you can have someone basically check in on your pets. Oh, so we have someone come twice a day. We love her. She's amazing. Sasha. And she comes in twice a day and checks and plays on. Plays with the cats and comes in the morning and then comes in the evening.

[Host Abby]

Is that like an app? Like a Rover?

[Maddie Henderson]

Rover. It's literally called.

[Matt Scharf]

Literally called Rover.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah. I have a couple of friends who work for Rover too. They just go to make some extra cash, go on dog walks.

[Host Abby]

Wow.

[Matt Scharf]

It's pretty cool.

[Host Abby]

Like, clip this. This is like a perfect.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah. This is an easy ad, to be Honest. Use code MAD. MAD15. You can get 15% off your first purchase using Rover for the first three months. You can actually get 15% off.

[Maddie Henderson]

We should reach out to Rover because they've kind of changed our lives.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

In a great way.

[Co-host]

Our dog honestly likes her dogs that are better than us.

[Host Abby]

How do you feel about being married to a cat lady?

[Matt Scharf]

Oh, I love it. I mean, I've been an animal dude my whole life, so I love cats. I had cats growing up, had dogs growing up, so I freaking love it.

[Host Abby]

See, we almost got one like a couple weeks ago. Cause our three year old is, like,

[Maddie Henderson]

a couple weeks ago.

[Host Abby]

Yeah. Well, he just randomly will say stuff. And then when he says it, like, I just. We love our kids, so I want to give them the world.

[Co-host]

You're like, sure, we'll make it happen.

[Host Abby]

I want a cat named. What did he say?

[Co-host]

I want a cat named Thor.

[Host Abby]

Thor.

[Co-host]

He's like, I want a cat name Thor.

[Host Abby]

Great, Thorn.

[Co-host]

He's a great cat named.

[Host Abby]

I'm like, yeah, let's get a cat named Thor. Come on.

[Co-host]

He has never said anything else about it since, so if we would have acted on that, that would have been crazy.

[Host Abby]

But then I remember that I'm like, highly allergic to cats, so. Yeah. Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

And that's the bummer. And that's. That's like. Yeah, I. I feel. I'm so sorry.

[Host Abby]

Yeah. I'd just be sneezing all the time, you know?

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah. That's not fun.

[Host Abby]

You guys don't have allergies to cats?

[Matt Scharf]

I have horrible allergies.

[Co-host]

Oh, not.

[Matt Scharf]

Not against animals. Not against animals every day. No. I have, like, horrible seasonal allergies and stuff. So, like, I. I get the pain of horrible allergies.

[Maddie Henderson]

So you're just not with the cats.

[Host Abby]

You're taking your, like, Zyrtec or Claritin, like, daily. That way you're not sneezing with all your cats.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah. I mean, when it's bad, it's. Yeah, I try and take it every day.

[Maddie Henderson]

Or their shedding season.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, their shedding season is bad, but sometimes it's like, I'm great. Like, I haven't. I've been taking allergies all week this week, and I have amazing. I've been in one week. I haven't had any problems.

[Host Abby]

That's so good. Wait, can we, like, rewind a little bit? Because. Okay. Your engagement story is incredible, but I want to know more about, like, how you met, how you started dating. Long distance.

[Co-host]

I met online.

[Host Abby]

Wait, what? You met. You met online?

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah, we met online, but it's a very modern day love story. Okay, So I. I was scrolling on TikTok, as one does. It just became TikTok.

[Co-host]

Okay.

[Maddie Henderson]

It's not musically anymore. You know, it's back then. So this was probably November of 2019, and I was just scrolling on TikTok, and I saw this. This guy do this impression of Jack Sparrow in a mirror. And I just was like. And I'm not the person to comment. Cute or hot or, you know, any of those things, but. Oh, my goodness, my breath was taken away.

[Co-host]

I was like.

[Maddie Henderson]

I was like, he looks just like Will Turner and he's Doing this Jack Sparrow impression. And it was just. It was absolute peak. It was so, so good. And I just. I commented cute. And. And I had no idea what that would have turned into. Because he saw that I was verified. And because, you know, he was looking through comments, he's like, oh, my gosh. A verified chick commented.

[Host Abby]

Wait, you were verified as a Kid?

[Maddie Henderson]

Verified in 2019?

[Host Abby]

No way.

[Maddie Henderson]

Verified. I think I got verified, probably. Yeah. Like the beginning of my senior year of high school.

[Host Abby]

Oh, my gosh.

[Co-host]

For dance stuff?

[Maddie Henderson]

No, I just did the comedy. Like, lifestyle stuff. Definitely cringe. Like, I look back and I'm like,

[Co-host]

how could I post this?

[Maddie Henderson]

Like, I'm like, we've all been. It's so bad. Like, sometimes I'll literally see a video from six years ago and I will be like, archive, archive.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, that's an archive post.

[Maddie Henderson]

This is just rough. Well, because it was the time I was like. I was like 16, 17.

[Co-host]

Totally.

[Maddie Henderson]

You know, it was. The whole world was kind of cringe. It was just weird.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host Abby]

How I know you guys, how I discovered you is when. When Abby and I were doing, like, cup more couples videos in 2020, you guys would do this just in case series. Whatever happened to the just in case series?

[Maddie Henderson]

So, yeah, the just in case, like, someone tries to attack you. Yeah, just. Yeah, just in case. All that stuff. So I actually started that before he was in the picture with actually one of my good friends in high school. And it was just. We were. We were hanging out one night and I said, hey, you wanna make this, like, fun video with me? He's like, yeah, let's do it. Sure. And so we just made a random fun video. And it got millions of views. And then I was just like, let's just keep going. My mom was like, you should call it the Justin Case series. Cause it was like, pretender, Defender, like, weird, whatever. And I'm like, okay, great. And then it kind of just evolved. And then as he, you know, as we started dating, we started evolving it more. And then it got to the point where it's like, there's not much more. Just in case you can do.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, she kind of covered all of it.

[Maddie Henderson]

Like, just in case your mom comes home and the chicken's not de.

[Co-host]

Thawed.

[Maddie Henderson]

You know, it's like I hit every base and it was just. It's a very character, you know, type of video to even make. And I think what's interesting too is I'm like, I am. I'm 24 now. I was 16, 15, 15, 16 when I started making these videos. I've grown up and changed, mature wise, life wise a lot in those years. And so sometimes I look back and I'm like, wow, this is so cringy. Then I'm also like, yeah, I'm 16. You know, like, I'm naturally. I'm going to be different then than I am now. You know, my content is going to be, you know, different. But anyway, I saw the Jack Sparrow impression, fell in love with this guy, and I was like, this is so cute. I know it sounds so easy. And he reached out to me and we just kind of started DMing each other on Instagram. And actually you sent me a Snapchat, but I never added you back for like a couple of months because I had no idea. I'm so sorry.

[Matt Scharf]

It was a rough time for me.

[Maddie Henderson]

He was like, never added back. I had no idea. But he sent me a Snapchat of him doing like this like two minute long Jack Sparrow impression. And I didn't see it until March. So I finally add and I see this impression and it was definitely a good icebreaker because you know how, you know, starting phases, it's like, oh, here's the shoulder snap you like in Snapchats. You know, you don't like, show your face or whatever. I was like, wow, he really went out of the way to start this Snapchat. We are just very much ourselves. And so I just responded kind of the same exact way. And we just became best friends through. Through the phone. He was in Kansas at the time. And that's just. Yeah, we did all that. And then Covid happened. What else do you do during COVID but hang out. And so he stayed at my mom's house, which my mom thought was crazy. That's a whole other thing. And. And then here we are now, years later.

[Matt Scharf]

Wow.

[Co-host]

Wow.

[Host Abby]

Okay, wait, Matt, what were your first impressions? Scrolling through all of her musical ly videos, getting to know this girl that just like slid in under your comments on your Jack Sparrow video.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, it was kind of crazy. I. I mean, she was doing this Justin case series with another boy and I was like, all right, well, I am ob, obviously out. I'm done. But no, I thought they were hilarious. I was very intrigued with how much she's herself, especially on an app like that. I was around when vine was a thing and it was kind of similar. So looking for that genuine person, it's very difficult. And so I found her and I was like, wow, she's actually just. I think she's being herself. I Mean, I obviously didn't know her, but I was like, looks like she's just trying to be Maddie, whoever that is.

[Host Abby]

Yeah.

[Matt Scharf]

And then watching all the videos, and I really didn't think they were cringe because I was also cringe. Right. Like, if I looked at them now,

[Host Abby]

I'd be like, what type of cringe videos were you putting out?

[Matt Scharf]

Let's just not even go there, brother. It's just not even a train.

[Host Abby]

Were you doing thirst traps at the time?

[Matt Scharf]

No, I. Thank God I didn't do the thirst traps. I was more of just like.

[Maddie Henderson]

I never did that kind of stuff. It was just.

[Matt Scharf]

I was just weird. I was just a goofball, just weird. And so I saw that, and I was like, man, this. This girl kind of matches my personality. And then, you know, I had been talking to other girls at the time, and none of them were really, like, hitting. And I was really hitting off with any of them. And then I was talking to Garrett, and this is after I kind of was talking to Maddie for a little bit, and I was like, dude, I kind of like this girl. I think this could be something. And Garrett's just, like, driving the truck, and he's like, okay, he's heard this so many times before. And then, you know, progresses, and she's asking me to go to this freaking TikTok conference thing. I don't even freaking know.

[Maddie Henderson]

It's called TikTok Live.

[Matt Scharf]

TikTok Live.

[Maddie Henderson]

And do you remember that from, like, way back when, right before COVID hit?

[Co-host]

Yeah, we weren't on until after Covid.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah.

[Host Abby]

We didn't get. See, we started making TikTok dances when we were, like, in quarantine, you know?

[Maddie Henderson]

And you guys were in Hawaii at that point, right?

[Co-host]

Shortly after.

[Host Abby]

Shortly after. We lived there for a year.

[Matt Scharf]

Okay.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yes. Because I remember. I don't know where in my files in my memory, but I remember you guys living in Hawaii at one point. Yes. Okay. Okay.

[Host Abby]

Yes. We did, like, six months after that was. That was a fun time.

[Maddie Henderson]

Good talk about it. Was that hard living there with COVID

[Host Abby]

It was actually great because we were living, like, in the, like, the country sort of area, so the restrictions weren't as high, and we could just, like, go to the beach and go hike.

[Co-host]

So it was just. You could do anything outdoors.

[Host Abby]

Yeah, we were outside every day.

[Maddie Henderson]

I mean, you're in Hawaii. Why wouldn't you be able to.

[Host Abby]

Yeah, we lived in, like, a little shoebox, so we were right by the water. So it's just like. You hear the ocean when you're going to bed. And yes, we didn't have AC, though. That was no air conditioning. Yeah. Well, okay. So when we were living in Hawaii in 2021, were you guys. You said you guys, like lived together for six years. Was that in Texas then or Kansas or. Where exactly was that?

[Matt Scharf]

Texas.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah. So I just had a lot of stuff going on, like, family wise. And I was just ready to get out of Utah, you know, and Utah very much. Especially in the. In the culture I was raised in, the Mormon culture. It's a bubble, you know, where I. It is like, it's its own little world there. Like, I watch Secret Lives, Mormon Wives, and I'm like, huh, really? It's just such a. It's such a different world there. And. And so I was at the point where I'm like, I just need to get out. I just need to be away. And he was living in Kansas, but him and all the Good good guys. This was before Good Good was started that his golf company and they were like, well, we're moving to Texas to like, really try to do this thing. And it was just kind of like, yeah, well, I was. I want to move out. I just don't know where. Whatever. Come to Texas. You know what? Screw it. Okay, I'm coming to Texas. Yeah. And so we just moved in together into, you know, and that was August of 2020. And then it really. It's interesting because it's like we only were dating for a couple months at that point. We only met at the end of April 24th of 2020.

[Matt Scharf]

Wow.

[Maddie Henderson]

So that's when we met each other for the first time. And then we moved in August 1st. Again, this is a crazy story. Like, the fact that this, that it all work the way it did. I tell my mom, I'm like, I don't know, everyone probably thought I was crazy. I look back and I'm like, holy crap. Like, if my daughter was doing, I'd be like, what are you doing? Like, this is crazy. But. But it worked out so perfectly. We're so blessed and lucky to have it turn out the way it turned out.

[Host Abby]

Growing up in Utah, what did your mom think when you're like, yeah, I just graduated. I'm gonna go move in with this guy. Like, what?

[Co-host]

Right?

[Host Abby]

What did your mom say? What did your mom say to you?

[Maddie Henderson]

Well, she wasn't for. Was. I was kind of going through a real. A little rebellious phase where I was like, I was making money on my own, you know, and through Tick Tock. And I'm like, oh my gosh, I just made 100 bucks.

[Matt Scharf]

I'm rich.

[Maddie Henderson]

You know, like, and, and. And I was, you know, young and I just graduated high school, but also Covid. It was like the whole world was shut down. Everything was just weird. It was a weird time. And my mom was going through. My mom and dad have been in this like eight year divorce thing. And so they. She was just going through her own version of hell and you know, whatever. And so I was just kind of like, I'm just getting out. And I'm like, I use the quote, I'm 18, I can do whatever I want. Or I don't.

[Host Abby]

You know, I'm gonna hate when our kids pull that off.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah, I could do whatever I want. And, and I, and I did. And you know, usually at that age you can't afford to do that yourself, but luckily because of work, you know what, I was a. My content and stuff. I was. And so I just, I just did it. And she was supportive. It was kind of where my like other fam. Like my in laws and extended family and all of my friends being like, what are you doing? And I'm like, this is. I'm just moving to Texas.

[Host Abby]

Did you.

[Maddie Henderson]

This guy.

[Host Abby]

Did you still like identify as like Mormon or LDS at the time when you like like moved out of Utah or is. Or was that like, was that your, I guess, version of breaking away from that?

[Maddie Henderson]

It was very strict, I guess in. In my, in my upbringing and very much on. In every aspect of our lives. And so. But when my parents started their divorce process when I was 16, it kind of just all fell. Kind of fell through. Like we just, you know, I would go to church, then people would talk to me about it and I'm like, I don't want to talk about this. So I just, I stopped going to church. I. Whatever I'm kind of figuring out. And Matt. And I believe too. I believe every, you know, no matter what your upbringing is, whether you're raised in a church or raised not, you have to come to a point in your life where you actually have to make the decision for yourself. Do I believe this or do I believe this because of my testimony or my parents testimony? And I didn't have my own testimony. I mean, I thought I did, but it was only because that's what I was around. And then we went. I kind of was just like, I'm not Mormon, I'm not this. I don't know what I believe. And I did that for a couple of years. And then Matt and I actually found God together about three years ago, and our lives have been, you know, redirected in a very positive way ever since. But I know I am no longer lds.

[Host Abby]

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[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah, especially in a religion where celestial families are so Prominent. Yeah, because in the Mormon religion, they believe that, you know, you are sealed for eternity to your spouse and then you live with them. You know, you live together for eternity in heaven and you know, your kids and it's a whole eternity thing. And so believing that as a kid and then having your parents separate, it's not even just like this life thing. It's like a different level of like, what is our eternity going to look like? What is heaven look like? It's this other kind of breakage. And I think that definitely affected, like,

[Host Abby]

emotions taken out of it. What, what is the teaching of what eternity looks like if people get a divorce in the church?

[Maddie Henderson]

Well, I mean, it depends kind of who you ask. Well, I believe from when I was in the church, what the doctrine said at the time was that you'd have to do a, a ceiling break. So they'd have to actually go into the temple and break a ceiling.

[Host Abby]

Oh, wow.

[Maddie Henderson]

Which is like a very big deal. And then. But some people choose to stay sealed. Like my mom knows some people who are divorced, but they just have stayed sealed. So they'll be together in heaven, but just not on this life. In this life. And. But my mom and dad, yeah, they, they ended the ceiling. But then it just throws the kids through a loop. It throws your mind through a loop, you know, being the child of that and trying to understand what that looks like. Heaven already is so difficult to understand. And so it just, it was just a whole other added level of like, you know, hurt, I guess, you know?

[Host Abby]

Yeah. Wait, Matt, were you raised like Christian Mormon?

[Matt Scharf]

Like, yeah, I was, I was raised like non denominational. Well, I guess I was actually raised Methodist. For a little bit. We did Methodist church and then I was kind of raised, I would say non denomination, non denominational Christian. Pretty much my, My entire life.

[Host Abby]

Gotcha.

[Matt Scharf]

Going to the church, going to Sunday school, going to little, you know, trips and stuff and. Yeah, that was pretty much my, My entire upbringing. Yeah.

[Host Abby]

Gotcha. And then, so then I guess meeting each other and like, yeah, just deciding to be a couple. We're. Were your parents at all like, oh, you're gonna like, marry the girl from Utah? Like, was that any. Or did your parents were just like, you just do whatever you want, we love you?

[Matt Scharf]

Like, yeah, pretty much. They didn't really have like a huge say in my relationship status. I guess they never really have. It was kind of like, hey, you know, if you like her. And you know, I don't know if we were at love, I guess yet, but if you Love this girl. Like, you know, pursue it and, you know, just kind of do it. Yeah, it wasn't like a don't you dare kind of thing. You know, even if I had told them, even if I think I told him that she was, you know, lds, I don't. I still don't think they'd have been like, don't do that. Like, I don't think they would have. I don't think they would have really cared.

[Host Abby]

When did you have start talking about getting married? Like, when did that come into the picture?

[Maddie Henderson]

Day one.

[Host Abby]

Day one. Oh, wow.

[Maddie Henderson]

I mean, it is funny because, you know, most people when it's like, you meet. You meet. You meet a guy and you go on a date, and they take you out Friday night, and it's like, you want to go on a date, and you go again Friday night. The next Friday night, you know, with COVID it was like we were talking on the phone 24 freaking 7, because, like, again, what else is there to do? And then he literally came to then stay at my mom's house in the basement for longer than that because we went to Vegas.

[Host Abby]

Yeah, it was two weeks.

[Maddie Henderson]

We drove on a road trip to Vegas, and the Strip was closed. And it was really cool to see the Strip not all, you know, filled, but. And again, this was like the beginning of COVID And so then all of a sudden, we were spending every waking moment together, and then we got Covid together, so then we were quarantined together even longer, and we just. It just all. It all happened really fast, which I see that now, but also didn't feel fast. It felt like it was like we've known each other forever. We had this found. We had such a foundation, I think, too, from talking online, that it wasn't like a. It was like we. We only could be best friends. We couldn't have any of that physical intimacy. We couldn't have any of that for months. And so we just grew such a strong base of friendship before we even met each other, you know, and then it just kind of. We were best friends before we were anything else. That's so sweet.

[Co-host]

And it seems like you guys have, like, the same sense of humor.

[Maddie Henderson]

I feel like we do sometimes I forget that other people don't think it's funny.

[Host Abby]

Yeah, no, I like it. I think it's. I love the energy that it brings into a room.

[Co-host]

I bet you guys laugh a lot, which is really stupid.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, we do.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah. I don't know if other others would laugh.

[Matt Scharf]

No, I'm sure It's so stupid.

[Host Abby]

But I love how your humor is so dry and, like, you're all, like, bubbly and smiley, and you're just, like, not even, like. I love that, Like, I don't know. I wish I could, like, embody that. That, like, brand of comedy.

[Co-host]

You're a golden retriever, Matt.

[Host Abby]

I'm not. That's just not me.

[Co-host]

This doesn't work. That's so sweet.

[Host Abby]

Can you tell us a joke?

[Maddie Henderson]

Say something funny. Make us laugh. That's so funny. Well, it's funny, too, because in the good, good videos, because I don't know if you guys know about golfing stuff.

[Host Abby]

I know what good good is, but can you explain it for people like, our listeners that have no idea what good good is? Let them, like, tell them what good

[Co-host]

sick hat, by the way.

[Host Abby]

Yeah. Love the good, good hat.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

Looks in the mirror.

[Matt Scharf]

No, Good Good, essentially is a. A golf company that I own with a bunch of my buddies, and we travel the world, and we film golf YouTube videos together. We've got a, you know, like, a whole business that sells apparel, and, you know, we're partnered with Callaway, and we just try to do anything and everything we can in the golf space. Trying to be more of a solidified, like, golf brand, not just some YouTube golf brand.

[Host Abby]

Yeah.

[Matt Scharf]

And I think we've done a pretty good job of that in the last six years. But, I mean, yeah, we're a YouTube company. We're an apparel company. We are working on our PGA Tour Championship Tour event we got coming in November. So we partnered with them, and we have our, like, legit own golf tournament for FedEx points on tour. We're bringing back Big Break. I don't know if you guys ever heard Big Break, but it's essentially where a bunch of people go and compete, and whoever wins gets the chance to go on, like, the PGA Tour and compete in an actual tournament.

[Host Abby]

Oh, no way.

[Matt Scharf]

So they had done that for, like, I think over 20 years or whatever and then stopped, and then they're redoing it with us. That's so, like, we get a chance to, like, bring that back. So we're doing a bunch of crazy stuff in the. In the golf space. But, I mean, the way that I like to tell it is it's just a golf company that I run with my best friends.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

Weren't you? That's so cool that you guys are all friends doing it together, too. I'm sure it makes things a little difficult at times, too.

[Matt Scharf]

Oh, no, they pissed me off.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah, it's so great.

[Matt Scharf]

They get on my nerves.

[Co-host]

Weren't you guys, like, the first digital, like, golf brand to do, like, partner with something there?

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, yeah, the first.

[Host Abby]

The.

[Matt Scharf]

The, like, when we signed with Callaway, that was, like, the biggest, like, brand deal that anyone has ever seen.

[Co-host]

That's so cool.

[Host Abby]

Wow. Biggest brand deal in the golf world. Or, like, in.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, like. Like, Callaway, too. Like, all these other guys had never done, like, had never done anything. Like, they had never signed with, like, a bunch of creators and actually giving them a huge lump sum of money and partnered with him like that. That had never been done. So we were kind of, like, the first company to do that.

[Host Abby]

It's cool that you guys make videos golfing together. I think that's kind of. That's kind of rad.

[Maddie Henderson]

Well, and I never golf until him.

[Co-host]

Yeah, I was gonna say, you had to learn.

[Maddie Henderson]

My dad took me golfing when I was little, and he gave me his man men's clubs at the range, and I couldn't hit anything. And I got so mad, and I'm like, I'm never touching a golf club in my life. I hate this sport. And then I meet this guy, he's like, yeah, I make golf YouTube videos. And. And then, honestly, I really do enjoy it.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, it's fun.

[Maddie Henderson]

It's very. It's very fun. It can make me angry like no other.

[Co-host]

I believe it.

[Maddie Henderson]

Have you ever thrown a club multiple?

[Matt Scharf]

So many chucked water bottles. She's thrown everything.

[Maddie Henderson]

Well, Matt's like, you can't throw that club. It's a rental. I'm like, screw it. Get a water bottle.

[Co-host]

Just chuck it.

[Maddie Henderson]

But you love it, you know?

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[Matt Scharf]

Probably our first apparel drop. I mean right when we like decided to drop our apparel. Because that's like when, when we were gonna decide like, all right, is this gonna be like a go or is this thing gonna be a bust?

[Host Abby]

Yeah.

[Matt Scharf]

You know, if we freaking drop all our apparel and we bought 5,000 polos and we sold 40 of them.

[Co-host]

Yay.

[Matt Scharf]

I mean, obviously this isn't for us, but we had like a drop and it all sold out in like 30 minutes and flew off the shelves and people freaking loved it. And you know, we were getting really good feedback on our YouTube videos as well. Which I think like seeing that, seeing like the, the success that we had in the YouTube and just seeing the numbers, we were like, alright, I think this can be something. But then when you bring like the R and D of actually making clothes and apparel for people to buy, it's like that's just like a completely different level. Like a lot of people be like, oh, you got great YouTube followers and great views. You're just going to sell apparel. Yeah, but that's just not the case. It's just completely different thing, like when you're actually telling people to go purchase something compared to just watch your YouTube videos for free. Yeah, it's completely different. And we were like, man, this is either going to tank the company or we're just going to sell. And we ended up selling.

[Host Abby]

Do you have like an in house development team for the apparel?

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, we've got a design and apparel team. We work hand in Hand with the apparel as well.

[Maddie Henderson]

Like 60 employees.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, we've got like. So we're moving up in employees. We the good, good guys. Like, we're hands on with the apparel and stuff. We're talking about what we like, what we don't like, what we want people to wear and not wear. So we work closely with the design team, but yeah, we try and be as hands on with as much stuff as we possibly can. Obviously there are some jobs that we can't do. That's why we allocate it to other people.

[Host Abby]

Yeah.

[Matt Scharf]

But for the most part, we are as hands on as we can be.

[Maddie Henderson]

Lot of people forget though, too, that you. They actually tried. You guys, you, Garrett and Steve did a company before. Good, good.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, we did.

[Maddie Henderson]

And it failed. And so usually if that happens, people are like, screw, we're not doing this again. And then. So Good, Good was actually your second attempt.

[Host Abby]

No way.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, yeah, it was. It was a company. It was called Bro 5. It was myself, Stephen Garrett, and a guy named Brody Smith who did a bunch of different Frisbee trick shots. He was a huge Frisbee guy. And then he kind of got into the game of golf. And me, Garrett and Steve were kind of doing GM golf. And we were doing funny, you know, wheeling out ideal videos and playing with hamburgers and hot dogs. And we were. We were doing literally anything and everything that we could to make it as non golf related as possible so we could bring in an audience to be like, come watch guys just be dudes. You know, just come watch this. You know, buddies having fun. And so we were like, absolutely crushing that. And then Brody was like the older guy. He was the business head. He kind of had all the connections and stuff. He was like, we can make like a company together. And then obviously all three of us had been really, really big fans of Dude Perfect. I'd been following them for a long time and been watching all their videos and freaking love them. And they were like the. They were like the group, right. They were the YouTube group. And we're like, man, what if we just did that? Like something like that, but with like golf? And we just tried to create like a new, you know, dude perfect. But golf thing.

[Host Abby]

Yeah.

[Matt Scharf]

And then, yeah, we started down the journey and things were going really well and we were filming a bunch of different videos. And then, yeah, unfortunately, it failed miserably. I think our dynamic, me, Garrett and Steve, was too strong and trying to add in another dude to like, throw in the mix of that and try to create relationships individually. With all of us.

[Host Abby]

Yeah.

[Matt Scharf]

And then also have that relationship with all three of us together. And it was just like. It was a horrible dynamic.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yes. Like 18, 19.

[Matt Scharf]

And we were 18, 19 years old. We had no idea.

[Host Abby]

You were so young doing that whole time.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, we didn't know. I certainly had no idea, like the amount of money you can make on YouTube and like that it could be an actual job. And when I started to see the numbers and then I was like, frick, we're making a lot of money doing this and wow, this could be a thing. And it obviously frickin fizzled out and was horrible and died. And then we kind of went on for the rest of our lives kind of doing what we normally did.

[Maddie Henderson]

And then obviously that's when I met him.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, that's when we met, we talked. We were quarantined at Purcell Farms and filming some more videos and we brought in more people, you know, Micah and George, Bryan and Bryce Butler. And like, we were bringing all these other people to like help film us, like golf videos. And I kind of saw the group vibe again. And then that's when me and Garrett and Steve had to make the decision of like, all right, do we want to do this again? And then if so, apparently there was, you know, a company that wanted to, you know, invest money into us and like, here, throw you guys some capital and then we can like, we can kind of be the guys behind you and kind of help make a, you know, a business.

[Host Abby]

Yeah.

[Matt Scharf]

And then from that, pretty much good, good was created.

[Host Abby]

Does that stress you out at all, having like, money that you had to repay to some like, investor?

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah. Having investors was unbelievably scary. It was like. Cause you know, I've watched Shark Tank. I'm not, you know, I'm not incompetent. I know how it works. They take your business from you and then you end up not owning it and you get a nice chunk of change. But you know, I was always like, if I'm gonna create a baby, I kind of want to keep it.

[Host Abby]

Yeah.

[Matt Scharf]

And if I have to get rid of it, I'm like, what's the point of five years down the road I create this awesome thing and then I'm just gonna give it away and be left thinking, well, now what am I gonna do? So that was the biggest worry with having investors. And investors is just like, it's a scary term for 18 year old kid to hear. And I was just like, please don't take over the company. And you know, I was Thinking about Brody and I was like, I don't want another situation like that. But then, you know, we met the team in Texas and that's when we like she was talking about, we kind of wanted to move to Texas because they were based in Texas and they wanted to keep us there. And like, you know, we'll build it here. This will be our home base. And then we just took the leap and it was obviously a great conversation and things moved in the right direction. We got to hear from all the investors individually on what they could bring to the table and what they can do. And it was a great conversation. And I think if we didn't have that and it was like a phone meeting, I don't think Google would be a thing. So I think having that face to face and what they can bring to the table and what they could do changed the trajectory for all of us to actually want to do it.

[Host Abby]

Do you guys like living in Texas? Is that a good thing?

[Matt Scharf]

Good spot, great place to live. Not great for golf. Sorry. Texas people.

[Co-host]

You know, Phoenix is great. I.

[Maddie Henderson]

But here, here's the problem though too. I'm used to mountains and like nature stuff. I don't know. I never heard what a cicada was until I moved there. You know, what's the cake? Do you have cicadas here?

[Host Abby]

Yeah, we, we don't have them here. I grew up with them. We'd have like this.

[Co-host]

Yeah, we're from Missouri.

[Maddie Henderson]

Illinois. Okay.

[Host Abby]

Cicadas in Missouri, every couple.

[Maddie Henderson]

I know they like don't hurt anyone.

[Co-host]

Like carcasses everywhere.

[Maddie Henderson]

I, I absolutely hate those things so much. My friend from here, from, from was like, oh, it's just summer white noise. And I'm like, no, I don't like it.

[Co-host]

They were piling up two summers ago at your parents house like crazy. Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah. And so, and they're at least where we live. We live up north of Dallas and so there aren't really any mountains. You know, maybe on ant hills the most you get.

[Host Abby]

I like, I like mountains.

[Maddie Henderson]

Right.

[Host Abby]

Yeah, I like the mountains.

[Maddie Henderson]

I grew up skiing and boarding so you know, that's, that's been the hard change. However, we have grown such a good community there that I think it would be really, really hard to leave. Very hard to leave of the, of the people. The people.

[Co-host]

The baby then.

[Maddie Henderson]

I know.

[Host Abby]

Oh yeah. Well, you're going to want probably like family around. Like we weren't even thinking about that when, when we got pregnant. But oh my gosh, it was so nice to have family that moved out to Arizona just to like get to do life with us and our kids.

[Maddie Henderson]

It makes a huge difference. So my sister, they live like 15 minutes away from us. Oh, see, so that's been amazing. And they have. They have a daughter that'. They have a one and a half year old daughter. And then we have like our church life group. I don't know if that's like a common term. Yeah.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

Okay. Yeah. We have our life group and two of them are just had little.

[Co-host]

That's what I'm saying. Once you have babies somewhere, it's hard to leave.

[Maddie Henderson]

We're all on the same stage of life here. It's so nice.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

And I know the hard thing is it's so hard being away from. From my mom. But she comes down as often as she can hand, you know. And again, we'll see what happens in the baby's here.

[Co-host]

I don't.

[Maddie Henderson]

It's like, let's see what happens.

[Co-host]

Our friends, they're here for residency and they were always intending on going back, but now we've like raised our kids together for so long.

[Maddie Henderson]

She's like, I don't know if we can go. I know.

[Co-host]

Oh, so sweet. I want to talk about the baby because that's like my favorite thing to talk about.

[Host Abby]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

Baby.

[Co-host]

Was this like a plan? Like we're like we're ready like starting kids or was just like.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

Because we love unplanned moments.

[Maddie Henderson]

Honestly.

[Co-host]

Like, I mean, we've had one ourselves.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, we did.

[Host Abby]

That was baby number two. Two for us. Surprise.

[Matt Scharf]

Love that.

[Maddie Henderson]

We. Well, so. Okay, so tmi, but we've been doing pull and pray for like the last

[Host Abby]

three or four years.

[Maddie Henderson]

Okay.

[Co-host]

Gotta be careful with that one.

[Matt Scharf]

Well.

[Maddie Henderson]

And so we were just. We were doing it and it. Nothing ever happened. And it started to kind of get in my mind. I'm like, is something act like, are we just really good at pulling and praying or. Sorry. It's such a weird thing to say. I'm sorry.

[Matt Scharf]

It sure is.

[Co-host]

How you are, you know, really a good bowler.

[Host Abby]

It sure is. Fuller Bray, baby.

[Maddie Henderson]

I'm like, are we just really good at that or is he just really good at that?

[Host Abby]

You're talent. You're a talented man.

[Matt Scharf]

Clearly. No, I should keep talking about it. So it's actually so I'm thinking the next 30 minutes we just kind of. We just dive into this.

[Host Abby]

Oh my gosh.

[Maddie Henderson]

But. And so. But I have really painful periods. Kids. Like, that was. That's been something. I've been really working through a lot of My adult life. I actually remember I was in jewelry class in high school. You had a jewelry class?

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, I know. What the frick.

[Co-host]

She says Utah.

[Maddie Henderson]

I'm like. I'm like, you didn't learn Mandarin Chinese?

[Host Abby]

He's like, what?

[Matt Scharf]

We had a corn. That's what we had.

[Co-host]

Yeah. We're in Queensland.

[Maddie Henderson]

There's, like, one language.

[Matt Scharf]

Literally, it was called Tonganoxy, Kansas. And it was literally just a freaking. I mean, just by the name. You're like, yeah. You guys picked corn or something. Didn't you eat freaking beans. Freaking. Yeah.

[Host Abby]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

You said Jiminy.

[Host Abby]

Abby says Jiminy. Is that a Kansas thing to say, Jimmy?

[Maddie Henderson]

I've never met another.

[Matt Scharf]

Do we rap here? Thanks, guys, for watching the unplanned podcast.

[Maddie Henderson]

I say that all Jiminy Christmas. I'm like.

[Co-host]

And Magos, where did you get that? I was like, you never. You don't say that.

[Matt Scharf]

You don't say that.

[Co-host]

And so sometimes I'll just say shimony.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah. You're kind of the only. Well, I guess you're the only two people I know that do that.

[Matt Scharf]

I have not met another Jiminy. So that's great to meet a fellow. Great to meet a fellow. Sister in Christ. Sister and Jimmy.

[Maddie Henderson]

Sister and Jimmy.

[Matt Scharf]

That's crazy.

[Host Abby]

Was it your, like, mom or dad or, like, like, uncle?

[Maddie Henderson]

That's.

[Co-host]

You can never know where you acquired it from. How.

[Host Abby]

Yeah, how did you. Do you know where you acquired it? Because Abby has no idea.

[Co-host]

Yeah, it's a gene you have.

[Maddie Henderson]

He just said it's a Jimmy Jiminy.

[Matt Scharf]

I'm like, like, Jiminy Cricket. You say Jiminy Neutron. Like you.

[Maddie Henderson]

Jimmy Neutron is one. He's been saying a lot, and I'm like, you know, he's a lot.

[Co-host]

Yeah. This is. I'm gonna laugh about for way too long.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, that's good. That's good.

[Co-host]

Anyway, what are we talking about? Oh, painful period.

[Host Abby]

Painful period. We were talking about pull and pray and painful periods.

[Co-host]

O.

[Maddie Henderson]

I would have, like, these episodes where, like, when my period would start in school, and it was. It wasn't like, oh, I'm feeling cramps. I just need to, like, sit down. It's like the mo. Like, everything I'm doing, stop doing it. I, like, fall to the ground. Like, I. I remember I left. I was in jewelry class, and I just left because I just. I'm not gonna ask a teacher. I. I could. I could barely even speak. I just literally walked out of the room. I had my phone, and I texted my friends later once I could finally get to the bathroom. To bring, like, my medicine and my stuff. But that, that's, you know, and so I was used to all of that. And then I got on birth control to try to, you know, get rid of my periods. But then I did a lot of research into that, and I wanted to do it a little more naturally or I wanted to heal. I didn't want a band aid. I wanted to really heal going on. And so I've been in this, like, healing journey for forever. And, you know, I changed my diet, I changed this. And I'm sure those things helped, but the reality is I, I still, you know, just had really painful periods to the point where, I mean, right before we started trying, which is, again, such a funny thing to say. Like, we're trying to get pregnant.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, we know what you're doing. We know what you're doing.

[Maddie Henderson]

Before we start. Before we did that. I mean, I think like the month before I, my, again, my period started. And I know what happens once I start feeling the cramps. I just pop in my medicine because I just know what to do. But I think I just took a little too long this time because I, you notice, I take a shower and I just took a little too long. And I was pretty much like on the floor in the bathroom for like a good hour or something before the medicine finally kicked in. And it was like, like so much pain. I'm, like, shaking, you know, like, I'm gonna throw up, but it's coming out this end and that end. It's like a weird. Like I'm just in so much pain. And so being pregnant and not having a period has been wonderful. However, I had a consultation to get an endometriosis surgery, and I scheduled it five days before I found out I was pregnant.

[Co-host]

Okay.

[Maddie Henderson]

Non refundable deposit. So I don't get any of that back.

[Co-host]

I'm kidding. Why would they do that?

[Maddie Henderson]

500 bucks. Don't get it. I don't get it back. However, I'm pregnant and I'm so blessed.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

So happy with that. But, like, I, I felt so. I was so scared that I wasn't going to be able to because of all the noise around that and all the pain with that. I'm like, okay. We really haven't been that careful, though, you know, the last couple years. And I haven't gotten pregnant and we've been trying for a couple months and it hasn't really been working. Clearly there's something wrong because this isn't. This pain isn't normal, but it all, you know, God had a better plan and greater plan that I could have imagined, and here we are.

[Co-host]

That's so exciting.

[Maddie Henderson]

So, yeah. And we'll see what happens when I get it again. I don't know what's gonna happen.

[Co-host]

We'll get there.

[Maddie Henderson]

Maybe it'll be better. Honestly, people say that. People have said that it has helped. Like, he helped heal them. And so I'm really hoping that. Yeah, that. That is something.

[Co-host]

The pregnancy. So pregnancy has felt like a relief in some ways.

[Maddie Henderson]

In that way, for sure. I mean, it's. It's harder in other ways. But I always say I. I was. Someone asked me, they're like, what would you rather have? And I'm like, well, right now, I'm creating a life. I'm like, I'm aware that I'm going to feel a little. Not exactly. There's a purpose behind it. I'm aware I'm going to feel tired or nauseous or hangry, like, all the time.

[Co-host]

Are you so hungry right now?

[Maddie Henderson]

I was really hungry in the first trimester. I'm like, better. Really? You know, most people. My sister was, too. She said she, like, lost weight in the first trimester because she could barely eat.

[Co-host]

Well, I.

[Maddie Henderson]

Okay.

[Host Abby]

For everyone listening right now, their due dates are a week apart. So.

[Co-host]

Wait, wait, are you saying your due date. Oh, take that out.

[Host Abby]

We can take that out.

[Maddie Henderson]

I'm due July 29th.

[Host Abby]

Okay.

[Maddie Henderson]

But then I just got my anatomy scan, like, two weeks ago or three or whatever. Weeks ago. And then push it to August 5th.

[Host Abby]

Okay.

[Maddie Henderson]

So I don't. I'm like, end of July, beginning of August is when baby's gonna be incredible.

[Host Abby]

Six days apart, people.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host Abby]

That's crazy.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah, that's crazy sauce. So exciting.

[Co-host]

That is so. I was like, literally just doing the math in my head.

[Maddie Henderson]

I'm like, wow.

[Host Abby]

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[Co-host]

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[Host Abby]

Has it sunk in yet that like you are a dad now? No. Like, when do you think it's gonna hit you?

[Matt Scharf]

I don't know. I think like that part of life, I guess for men. I feel like that doesn't happen until like those moments where you are actually a dad. I feel like for the mother, it's just way different. You guys start right away, especially if you're breastfeeding. That part of life just starts. You're a mother. Like this baby can do literally nothing without you. Dad, if I'm not here, the baby still survives. Not in a bad, obviously don't leave your baby. But I'm saying like, if I am not here.

[Host Abby]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Matt Scharf]

If I am not here, mom takes care of baby, the baby survives. So it's like for me, I think that part's gonna come in later when kind of like where a niece's age is at maybe a little before then when she's maybe crawling around or she's a little bit more cognitive and whatever. I think that's maybe where it'll start.

[Maddie Henderson]

Well, you told me you were like, you were like, there's not much I can do in those early, you know.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, my job, especially if I just take care of.

[Maddie Henderson]

There's not. Yeah, like my job. He was like, you're. I have to take care of you so you can take care of baby. Obviously it's not saying that you're not helping right, baby?

[Matt Scharf]

But Like, I mean, I can't.

[Maddie Henderson]

I'm barely gonna be able to help. I, you know, myself.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

You know, he's gonna.

[Matt Scharf]

So I think. I think. I think for me, it's like, when I have. When. When baby's born, like, I gotta focus on being a husband. Husband first.

[Host Abby]

Yeah.

[Matt Scharf]

Like, as much as I'm gonna want to, like, take over and take control, like, my job is to be a husband first. And if I make sure that she's okay and she's obviously not gonna be at 100% for a very long time, but, like, if I can take the steps to, you know, make sure the house is clean, there's the least, like we talked about, like, a couple weeks ago, like, the least amount of stress that I can give her. Like, those are the things that I need to focus on. I need to put my ego aside of, like, I need this baby, and I gotta do this and this, this, this. And, like, what can I do to help you so that this baby can actually survive and that you can survive? You know? So, like, those are the things that I'm mainly gonna be focusing on. And then, you know, once we kind of get a little bit more comfortable sleep schedules and things, you know, slowly start getting on track, then it's like, you know, now I can kind of maybe, you know, focus on some of those things,

[Maddie Henderson]

but, yeah, there's so much unknown.

[Co-host]

Did you kind of feel like you were gonna have a girl?

[Matt Scharf]

I feel like I was always destined to be a girl dad for sure.

[Co-host]

I kind of feel like just talking to you, I'm like, I could totally see you having.

[Maddie Henderson]

He always gave me girl dad vibes.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

But from, like, symptoms that people were telling me, it seemed like we were gonna have a boy.

[Co-host]

See, you seem like a boy mom, though, too.

[Maddie Henderson]

And that's. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

But I also come from a family of only girls. Oh. And so, like, I'm very used to just. Just girls, really. And that also feels very comfortable and safe.

[Co-host]

Okay.

[Maddie Henderson]

I also think there's definitely healing. I think that he's gonna have. And that I'm gonna have being a parent of a girl, you know, and I think that's gonna be a very beautiful.

[Co-host]

Do you have a sister?

[Matt Scharf]

Yes, I have two older sisters. I mean, if you don't know anything about my story, I'm adopted from Russia, so they both still live in Russia, So I haven't been able to see him for, you know, 20 years or whatever.

[Maddie Henderson]

Oh, wow.

[Matt Scharf]

But I do have two older sisters. Victoria has two kids, and Irene. Irena doesn't have any.

[Co-host]

Are you able to stay in touch with them?

[Matt Scharf]

I mean, yeah, kind of. I mean, we Skyped. We Skyped a long time ago back in Kansas. But, you know, we had to Skype the translator. So, like, it was just very difficult, like, the communication between us and the translator to try to get them on the same page. It was just. It was really difficult. But, yeah, you know, we. They have Instagram, so, like, we talk on Instagram and stuff.

[Maddie Henderson]

Google Translate, you know, you can translate Russian to English.

[Matt Scharf]

So I haven't really grown up with a sister dynamic by any means.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Matt Scharf]

But I did. I do have an older brother as well. So I, you know, I did have a sibling, so I know the sibling

[Maddie Henderson]

dynamic that was adopted with him.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah.

[Host Abby]

Oh, no. So you and your brother were adopted from Russia and like, in. And did you know that all the time growing up? Or was there like a day that your parents were like, oh, by the way, we adopted you?

[Matt Scharf]

There was definitely a time they told us because we didn't speak any English. And he was like, five. Yeah, I was like five. I was young, and it took me a while to kind of, I think, get all that. I think I started to, like, learn. Like, I was obviously different from all the other kids. Cause I didn't understand what anybody was saying. I had this translator. I was kind of like, what the heck? So I think I slowly started to, like, figure it out in school. And then I'm pretty sure my parents told. I don't, like, remember the day that they told me or anything, but I'm pretty sure they told me, like, hey, you guys are adopted from Russia and we're your parents now. And they probably told us whole story of what happened to your parents. And you have sisters. And we tried to get them and like, they went through all that. I definitely remember, like, them talking about that.

[Host Abby]

Wow.

[Matt Scharf]

And then I, you know, always ask questions. You know, every now and then questions would come up and they'd do their best to answer them. But, yeah, pretty crazy stuff.

[Maddie Henderson]

He's a pretty crazy story.

[Host Abby]

It is a crazy story.

[Maddie Henderson]

I tell him. I'm like. I'm like the documentary of just like his, like, early.

[Matt Scharf]

It would be really good.

[Maddie Henderson]

Just from what your sisters and your. Your little sibling group, two sisters and two brothers had to go through, you know, before you were put in the orphanage and then before you were adopted. I mean, it's just you have such a crazy.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah.

[Host Abby]

What. What did. Yeah, what did you and your siblings have to go through before you were put in an orphanage?

[Matt Scharf]

I mean, you know, a lot. I mean, Victoria was, like, 11 years old. I think Irina was 9, and David was 6, and I was, you know, 4. And, you know, once my mom died, it was like she was now the mom and the dad, and there was nobody to, like, come in and check on them and, like, see how they're doing.

[Host Abby]

Yeah.

[Matt Scharf]

So she had to, like, figure all of it out. She had to figure out how we're gonna get our next meal. How are we gonna.

[Co-host]

11 years old.

[Matt Scharf]

11 years old.

[Maddie Henderson]

Well, before that, it was because he has a different dad than his three siblings.

[Matt Scharf]

Yes, I should probably say that. Yeah. So David and my sisters are my half, technically half. And I had another dad. And apparently, like, Victoria, Maddie just made me this really cool book for my birthday. It's, like, my early life years and stuff, so I was able to read that. And I've seen some of those pictures in there, and some of them I haven't seen. But, like, he would come in and, like, he would have me on his shoulders, and it looked like he was, like, kind of a good dad or whatever. But, you know, both of them struggled with alcoholism pretty bad. And I think there was one moment when my dad was like, I'm gonna take Matt. And then they were like, no, like, you're not gonna do that. So then he just kind of left. And then she was just left to kind of fend for herself with all

[Maddie Henderson]

of us she would be gone for. So I reached out to his older sister a couple months ago and said, hey, there's so many gaps between his understanding of his childhood, just because we've heard things over the years, but the end of the day, we don't really know, you know, much. And so I reached out to her and I said, could you help clarify any of these things? Could you help give some kind of story, some kind of understanding of what that looked like before they were adopted? And she. She was a little hesitant. And again, this is all from English to Russian, Russian, English. So it's kind of like. You read it, and it's like. It's kind of interesting in the way certain things are worded. But she was a little hesitant at first because she was just like, it's a truly. It's such a sad, awful story. And I don't. And she said. She's like, I don't want him to know this, because I don't. I just want him to be happy. And I. But then she got to the point where she's like, but if this is what he wants, I'll share it. And so she told. She told the story with things that you didn't even know, obviously. Things that I didn't know. And when the. The. His sibling's dad died, his mom fell into, like, alcoholism, and she'd be gone for, like, two to three days at a time. And so that's when the old. His older sister would take care of him and watch him. And they said they would go to the Catholic church down the street because they would go to the service, and they were fed at the end, and that's how they got their food. And they all slept in the same bed for warmth. She said, I mean, just go. Russia. Freezing. Freezing cold. It's like jumping back to, like, the 19, you know, 50s. I mean, it's like sewage. And his parents were saying, like, sewage on the streets, you know?

[Host Abby]

Yeah, we've chatted with LDS missionaries that did a mission in Russia, and they said people would just, like, die freezing to death.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, just leave them on the street.

[Host Abby]

Yeah, that's how cold it is.

[Maddie Henderson]

She. She came home drunk, she fell, hit her head. She had a cerebral aneurysm and then froze.

[Host Abby]

Yeah, she frozen the street.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah.

[Host Abby]

That's horrible.

[Maddie Henderson]

And then his sister. They had him for a little while until the authorities did anything about it. And then. So it was just them four. Just. Just the kids. And then they were put in the orphanages, but they were separated because they had the girls and the boys.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, that was tough.

[Maddie Henderson]

And she was saying. She was like. She was like. It was the hardest day of my life because we were always together, and we didn't have parents. We didn't have, you know, anyone who cared about us, you know, besides ourselves. And. And she's like. And she even said. She's like. She's like, matt, and his name is Vadim. Was like, my kid. It was like, my child because I took care of him. And. And then when the authorities came and picked him up, the girls were taken one way and the boys are taken another way. But Matt was 4, so he was technically still supposed to go to the baby's house. So then they separated them, too. And, I mean, just imagine, like, all the. All the screaming, crying tears of, like, little children who don't understand what's going on, just being ripped apart from all they know. That's. That's what happened. And then. And then, you know, these two. Two people, Mike and Deb, and. And where were they living at the time? Starts with an M. Was it Missouri?

[Matt Scharf]

No, no, it was Minnesota. In South Dakota, I think they found a.

[Maddie Henderson]

They found an ad in a newspaper.

[Host Abby]

It was an ad in the newspaper

[Matt Scharf]

flyer on, like, a telephone pole for

[Host Abby]

you and your brother.

[Maddie Henderson]

Adopt.

[Matt Scharf]

Just adopting kids from Russia.

[Maddie Henderson]

Adopting kids from Russia. So they're like, let's just go. Because they had fertility issues.

[Matt Scharf]

Like a SEM. It was like a seminar. So it was like, come listen to our seminar about kids being adopted and stuff. And Mike was, like, hesitant because he was like, if I freaking go to the seminar, bro, I'm about to be crying. I'm about to get a kid.

[Host Abby]

Yeah, exactly.

[Matt Scharf]

At least one. So he wasn't even mentally prepared for that. And Deb's like, just shut up.

[Maddie Henderson]

Let's just go.

[Matt Scharf]

Listen, there's nothing can happen. And here I am.

[Host Abby]

And they change your life.

[Matt Scharf]

Mike's a softy.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah, but how they do it is they actually fly all the kids down on a plane. So they flew all of the. All the kids down. There was probably, what, 20 of you.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, like 20 kids.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah, they flew all of them down on a plane. And they actually come to live with the American parents for a month. And then these kids don't speak any English. So they're like. They're going from, like, living in, like, hell to being brought to, like, this wonderful life where they have food and

[Matt Scharf]

they're not freezing, to McDonald's ketchup, dude.

[Maddie Henderson]

They're like, apparently, Mac and cheese. Like, their favorite thing is that, like, do you remember?

[Matt Scharf]

I would eat it out of the cup.

[Host Abby]

Wait, hold up. Do you remember flying on a plane from Russia to the flying part?

[Matt Scharf]

Vaguely. Because I'm sure I just slept the entire time. But, like, literally when I landed, I remember going to McDonald's, seeing a French fry, eating the, like, the little things that you like. You push a little black thing, you know, and the ketchup comes out of the thing. I would really just sit there and eat the things out of the cup.

[Co-host]

The sauces.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, the ketchup. I'll just eat the ketchup out of the thing.

[Co-host]

Like, this is amazing.

[Host Abby]

That's what our kids do it. That's what my 3 year old will do. He'll just eat the ketchup.

[Matt Scharf]

And I'm like, great.

[Host Abby]

I'm like, griffin, buddy, like, put a fry in there.

[Matt Scharf]

Like, wake up. What are you doing?

[Maddie Henderson]

But then they literally come off this plane, and you have them for a month. And then they say, okay, now they're going back to Russia. So these kids are emotional and they Pretty much are like having to be kind of, like, kind of drag, like, put back on this plane. Why do they like that?

[Host Abby]

Why do they.

[Maddie Henderson]

I know. It's the most.

[Host Abby]

Take them away.

[Maddie Henderson]

No wonder everyone has, like, these trauma issues that they have to work through when they're adults anyway.

[Co-host]

They take them back.

[Maddie Henderson]

They take them back, and then the American parents have to go to Russia

[Matt Scharf]

to claim them and talk to the

[Maddie Henderson]

judge, buy off, do all that stuff. And actually, just a couple years after he was adopted, they. Putin ended all adoptions.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah. So it was closed off. You couldn't adopt any kids from Russia anymore.

[Host Abby]

That's the thing now. So you can't even adopt from Russia at all.

[Co-host]

So they were able to get you and your brother back together and. Oh, my gosh, that's crazy. And your sisters were still in the orphanage?

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, they tried it. They tried to work a deal where they could get all four of us, but they just weren't having it.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They had to stay in their foster home.

[Host Abby]

So they chose you and your brother because you were the youngest?

[Matt Scharf]

I think so, yeah. Or I'm. I'm sure. Like, a part of me wants to think, like, Victoria and Irina were like, take them.

[Host Abby]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Scharf]

Like, I would like to think that that's. That's kind of like what they would say to them, like, take them, and if you can get us, great. But, like, 100% take them. And I know my parents probably fought tooth and nail to try to get them because. And I sometimes wonder, like, how different that dynamic would have been if I had my sisters with me. It probably would have been so much different. Both me and David would have been so much different in the way we acted. I'm sure. And then having a sister, you know, sibling dynamic, it all would have been crazy. But, yeah, that just unfortunately didn't happen.

[Co-host]

So you met them in that month that you got to your parents, that you got to come to the US So then was it hard then to leave?

[Matt Scharf]

Oh, my gosh. I was fricking scratching and biting and crying and, like. Cause in my reality was, I'm going back to Russia to go back to where I was. So these guys didn't like me. Like, I didn't.

[Maddie Henderson]

It's so sad.

[Matt Scharf]

I didn't. Yeah. Like, I. I'm sure I was thinking, like, ah, I didn't do something right. Or I didn't cry enough or I was, you know, cute enough, or, you know, all the freaking crazy, sad stuff that you could think. And so then I'm thinking Well, now I'm going back.

[Co-host]

And they brought you to this seminar? Is that what this was?

[Matt Scharf]

No, they were like, I thought. Or they took me from, like, the orphanage to here. I stayed with a month, and then they were taking me back.

[Co-host]

Oh, you went right to their house.

[Matt Scharf]

No, back to Russia. Back to the orphanage.

[Co-host]

Well, when you landed in the U.S. sorry.

[Matt Scharf]

Oh, when they got me?

[Co-host]

Yeah. You spent the whole month at their house?

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I spent the whole month at their house.

[Maddie Henderson]

Like, you know, test them out for a month.

[Matt Scharf]

Christmas. That was. It was Christmas, right?

[Maddie Henderson]

No, no.

[Matt Scharf]

What were those pictures?

[Maddie Henderson]

Those. That's when they finally got.

[Matt Scharf]

That's when they finally got me.

[Maddie Henderson]

Okay. But there's a layers of language barrier.

[Co-host]

They.

[Maddie Henderson]

The kids don't. They don't.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, we had a translator, like, legit with us, so, like, they, like. I couldn't even communicate with them. Like, I was. They were just taking me to go do fun stuff.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah, that was it. Also, you came right out of the hospital. You came. Sorry. You came right out of the plane and they had to go. They didn't take him straight to the hospital. Yeah, because right before he went on the plane to Russia, he put his eye in a B hole, and so his face was all swollen. So he comes off the plane and they're like, we got to go to the hospital. So his first thing was the hospital where they went.

[Co-host]

That must have been a miserable flight.

[Matt Scharf]

Shout out, David. Yeah. Yeah, that was. I'm sure that was horrible. Yeah.

[Co-host]

I mean, what a crazy experience.

[Host Abby]

Is all this, like, so traumatic you just kind of, like, forgot about it? Like your brain was just like, I don't want to remember that anymore.

[Matt Scharf]

I'm sure my brain kind of does that naturally, maybe. I don't know, but I know I don't really remember, like, you know, all that kind of crazy stuff. I don't think so.

[Host Abby]

Like, your first memories then are just like, growing up in the United States then for the most part?

[Matt Scharf]

Well, I mean, I have the memories of, like, looking in the beat, like David telling me to look in the B hole and getting stung by the bees, and then, like, you know, going on the plane. I remember I was playing in the orphanage with one of my best friends. Apparently in the orphanage. Her name was Denise. I don't know if this is with her or someone else, but I was playing with this blue truck that I loved a lot. And I just remember some kid taking the blue truck and breaking it and then leaving. And then I remember that, and I was crying or whatever. So I remember that memory. There's bits and pieces of stuff that I remember, but I don't think there's enough to piece together to remember all the crazy trauma.

[Maddie Henderson]

But from what I've learned from. From like, what psychologists and therapists and, like, people have really found out is that, you know, those early years, even if you don't remember it, it's still like in your cognitive.

[Matt Scharf]

Your body and your.

[Maddie Henderson]

And so interesting. Is it him and his brother, they're actually. They're. They're alike in a lot of ways, but they're different in a lot of ways. And it's because his brother went to the big kid orphanage and Matt went to the baby orphanage and the big kid orphanage. You kind of had to fight for what you want. And in the baby orphanage, the cuter you are, the more the love and attention you get. Oh, my God. So. And that. But the thing is, they don't remember much of that, but it plays into who they are now. And you can see that and how. And how his brother is and then how he is. And so it stays within you. You know, it's. It's. Even though it was so early on, I mean, the met. The. The thought of having, you know, being ripped away from your sisters and ripped away from everything you knew has. Has to affect still, you know, it's in you somewhere, you know, even if the memory isn't exactly there. Yeah, that's so.

[Host Abby]

That's a crazy story.

[Co-host]

It's so cool, too, that you, like, went back and, like, started to piece some of that together. Like, such a cool book.

[Maddie Henderson]

Well, because especially now that, like, we're having this baby, I'm like, I. I want them to know his story. And we don't have any photos of him from before. He was, like, five, four or five. And so. And so we. When we were talking, like, I wonder what she's gonna look like. I wonder, you know, all these things. I wonder how she's gonna act. And I'm like, well, who knows who knew him during this time? So that's when I reached out to his sister and found out all of these things. And I was so emotional and I was. It wasn't telling him because I wanted to save for his birthday, but I. I was learning all these things and I was originally going to save that story for his birthday, but I was like, I don't. I don't think this is something you should. This is like, I gotta share this with him before. This is, like, heavy on my heart because it's just so heartbreaking and real and just hard. And so I. I told him, and we talked about it, and she sent over all the. All the things she had, and we were kind of talking back and forth, and one day you're gonna meet him.

[Matt Scharf]

One day I will. For sure.

[Maddie Henderson]

They won't come here, which.

[Matt Scharf]

It'll be a neutral location.

[Maddie Henderson]

Like, we'll go to a neutral location because of political.

[Host Abby]

You know, because of the war in Ukraine. So. Yeah. Like, that. You guys have to meet, like, in Paris or something.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah, we'll have to meet, like, UK

[Matt Scharf]

Paris, like some neutral location.

[Host Abby]

Yeah. Interesting, because there's no direct flights from. Yeah. US To Russia.

[Matt Scharf]

No, I think you fly into the UK and then you fly into, like, Minsk or Moscow or something. I'm sure. Yeah.

[Host Abby]

How do you feel about the. Like, the ban on adoptions where you can't, like, adopt from Russia anymore?

[Matt Scharf]

I mean, from my perspective. Yeah. Freaking sucks, because I'm sure there's two other cute little boys or two, you know, girls or whatever that would just Absolutely. Like, their lives would. 100. I can almost confirm. 100 would be different.

[Host Abby]

Yeah.

[Matt Scharf]

You know, maybe not as blessed and as, you know, where I'm at, but I know their life would 100% be different than what they would have received if they stayed in Russia.

[Maddie Henderson]

Well, if you were still in Russia, you'd probably be. You'd be in the war. I would have fought in the war,

[Matt Scharf]

or I would have just died on the street. Like, it's.

[Maddie Henderson]

You go to the military at 16.

[Host Abby]

You know, they put you in the military at 16.

[Maddie Henderson]

Well, he's a boy. He doesn't have any parents.

[Matt Scharf]

That's probably. I mean, I would have probably went there by choice for sure. Because then military. I'm thinking, oh, that'll at least feed me, or, you know, I'll get to be inside. Freaking. I don't know.

[Host Abby]

That's what's so sad about all these global conflicts is, like, the people that end up dying are always the people that are just that. That have nothing. Like, it's just. It's just poor people. It's people that get sucked into it. Yeah. They're just pawns in it. Right. The people making the decisions at the top aren't actually. Actually having to, like, go and give their life.

[Maddie Henderson]

Right. Exactly, man.

[Co-host]

So the decision to start your own family was, like.

[Host Abby]

It's a bigger one.

[Co-host]

Yeah, it's a big one.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah.

[Matt Scharf]

And we're still thinking about, you know, adopting as well.

[Co-host]

Yeah. I was gonna ask that.

[Matt Scharf]

Adoption process, obviously, we would have loved to adopt from Russia. But yeah, adoption's definitely, it's definitely on the table. And we'll kind of have to navigate how all that looks. Cause obviously it's so much different, but we definitely want to do it.

[Maddie Henderson]

Which is interesting because I've actually, when I've told people that, I've had people say to me, like, you might want to think twice before adopting. And I'm like, because, you know, people have really hard stories and you know, like, it's 100 fair. But in my experience, from what I've seen, I'm like, I can't imagine. I'm. I can't imagine him not being here. Like, if I had the opportunity to bring anyone even close to him to this year to have a better life.

[Matt Scharf]

Pretty rare case I feel like I got. Well, I'm just saying it, you know, the less older you are, like, the younger you are, you're gonna remember less naturally. So, like, if you adopt a 2 year old or 4 year old, it's gonna be different. If you adopt an 8 year old or an 11 year old, like, they're gonna remember so much more and that trauma is gonna be so much harder to deal with as a parent. And when they're freaking yelling at you that you're not their mom and you're not their dad, like, it's just gonna be so much harder. And I had that moment.

[Maddie Henderson]

I just say, like, I know what that feels like.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah. And I had those moments because I did it like, you know, you're not my mom. You don't know anything. So it's like I did those moments to my parents and David did those moments. So, like, I couldn't even imagine doing it with someone who's freaking 10 or 11 years old who remembers even more. So, like, that stuff's just, it's not an easy. Like, I'm a very rare case. You know, I'd like to think that I'm. I've been a pretty good son to them. I didn't really, you know, I was, you know, I had my horrible moments, sure. But I like to think that I was pretty good. But that comes from me not remembering as much.

[Host Abby]

Yeah. You know, and I think like, I threatened to run away from home when I was a kid and put like saltine crackers in a backpack.

[Matt Scharf]

Oh, yeah, I did that kind of crap too. Yeah. 100.

[Host Abby]

But like, to imagine, like going through that with, with the adoption situation must make the tension so much bigger because, like, as a kid, you're gonna hit way harder yeah, because as a kid you're like, yeah, they're not my parents. I'm making the right. And like, as the parents you're like, ah, like this is so hard. I don't know what to do. Like so that's, that's tough. So your parents are probably incredible people and you seem like a really good person too. So I'm, I'm just happy that like everything. And it's also you guys, you guys are living the American dream. By the way. Like, it's cool how like you're from Russia, you came here, now you're like a successful YouTuber. Like have a golf channel where you and your buddies play golf and have a golf brand. Like, what the f. That's so dope.

[Matt Scharf]

That is crazy.

[Host Abby]

That's so cool.

[Matt Scharf]

Absolutely insane.

[Host Abby]

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[Matt Scharf]

Man, break is an arbitrary term. Like, what does that exactly mean? I will definitely be taking some time off if that's. If that's kind of where we're going with that for sure. I'm gonna take my month. Sabbatical and be with.

[Maddie Henderson]

Sabbatical? Is that what it's called?

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, sabbatical. Taking a break, not doing anything. Good, good. You know, if I need to, like, hop on a phone call or something, like, I can do a meeting or whatever.

[Maddie Henderson]

Paragraph. Paternity leave.

[Host Abby]

Paternity leave.

[Matt Scharf]

Like when you take a. Like when you take a sabbatical, like, you're taking.

[Co-host]

Is it.

[Matt Scharf]

I know. It's called pto. No, no, not pto. Oh, my gosh.

[Host Abby]

No.

[Maddie Henderson]

I thought sabbatical is when your brain. You. You like, medic. You, like, Is that emotionally. I think it's when you mentally need a break and they're like, you're going on sabbatical. Am I making that up?

[Co-host]

We've all never worked.

[Host Abby]

That's like 10 years. Yeah, I know. We're all YouTubers and tick tockers.

[Matt Scharf]

I mean, I will be mentally checking out, I guess, because I'm gonna be putting all of my mental focus on this. So I guess I'm doing both.

[Host Abby]

Perfect.

[Matt Scharf]

Anyway. Big words.

[Maddie Henderson]

Oh, that's funny.

[Matt Scharf]

So, yes, I will be taking a minimum a month break. And then, like, our next big trip is. We're trying to plan for Japan in September. So, like, Japan. I'm gonna try to plan to do

[Host Abby]

that, but that's exciting. Wait, what's bringing you to Japan?

[Matt Scharf]

I mean, we've been wanting to go over there. It's such a huge golf country, you know?

[Host Abby]

Really.

[Matt Scharf]

And we would love to. We would obviously love to go do, like, a cool Japan road trip. I think that'd be sick.

[Co-host]

Wait, are you going to Japan?

[Maddie Henderson]

Frick.

[Matt Scharf]

No.

[Co-host]

I was gonna say. That's so brave.

[Maddie Henderson]

Absolutely not. I'll be about six. I'll be about six weeks postpartum at that point.

[Matt Scharf]

Yes.

[Maddie Henderson]

If I. If I give birth again, beginning of August, end of. So I think. I think six months. Oh, my gosh. Six weeks. I'll be six weeks postpartum, and I think that's a good.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, A good. I'll be. I'll be taking a break, but I will not be leaving. I think a lot of people be like, oh, man has been in content for two months. Is he quitting?

[Co-host]

Is he quitting?

[Maddie Henderson]

No, no, I'll still be updating life.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah. I'll still be updating the Instagram and freaking still posting and still telling people.

[Maddie Henderson]

I. Here's the thing. It's like, I, I know it's going to be hard, like, especially like leaving me and like the baby. But like you, you do have find so much purpose. And you're so cute. You do find so much purpose. And in working you love your job and like, that's such a gift to like love what you do. And so like, I can't imagine becoming scared. I can't imagine as a wife being like, oh, you can't work anymore, you can't do good, good anymore. Like, it's, it's such, it's been such a blessing in our lives and it's. And you love it.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

You know, it's so much so. Ah, that's sweet.

[Matt Scharf]

But yeah, I'll take a break and then I'm getting right back into it.

[Host Abby]

For sure.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host Abby]

People are asking. This is from Alexishope579. What's the baby's name? That was a bit, that was a bit aggressive question, Alexis.

[Maddie Henderson]

That's crazy because like what's the baby's name period? Well, we're still kind of figuring that out. We're 100 sure on the last name.

[Host Abby]

Okay.

[Matt Scharf]

It is Sharf. So there's your answer.

[Host Abby]

There we go.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

So you can count on the last name being sharp scarf. And we're figuring out, you know, are

[Host Abby]

there any baby names that you liked that you won't be using? Because that's like a, that's like a trend, you know?

[Matt Scharf]

Aluminium. Toaster Strudel was kind of a big one for me.

[Host Abby]

Great name though, dude. Yeah, I love eating.

[Maddie Henderson]

First name Toaster, middle name Strudel.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, I thought that was gonna be kind of fun.

[Maddie Henderson]

We liked. We actually had some boy names.

[Matt Scharf]

Holy frick.

[Maddie Henderson]

Actually, it was funny. We had more boy names than we did girl names for some reason. Girl names are just harder for me.

[Matt Scharf]

Boy names kind of came quick and easy.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah, I love this and this and this and this. Like we, like, so we had, we had so many boy names that we were loving and then for the girl we're like, we just don't know.

[Matt Scharf]

So sorry, Alexis. Sharf is all you get.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah, we liked, we liked Anastasia. Yeah, we did love because it was like a Russian kind of name.

[Host Abby]

Yeah.

[Matt Scharf]

But we wanted to call her Anastasia

[Maddie Henderson]

because then it's like so confusing.

[Matt Scharf]

So people won't say that. People just say Anastasia.

[Host Abby]

Cuz we're down Here.

[Maddie Henderson]

And so we're like, probably not especially living in Texas.

[Host Abby]

My good country accent.

[Matt Scharf]

Welcome, Anastasia.

[Maddie Henderson]

Welcome. All right, well, what was another name we like that we didn't? That we had? That we put off. We put off that we're not doing?

[Matt Scharf]

Was it another a name?

[Maddie Henderson]

We had a lot of J names.

[Matt Scharf]

Oh, yeah, Like. Like Gemma? Or was that Gemma?

[Maddie Henderson]

I was like, matt, I really like Jolene. He goes, no. I say, okay, okay.

[Matt Scharf]

There's a whole song about her.

[Maddie Henderson]

Song about her.

[Host Abby]

That's a great Texas name. People could pronounce that one in Texas.

[Maddie Henderson]

Well, and for a guy, Matt, there was a good little moment there where Matt really wanted to name our son Jedediah. Because Jedi.

[Matt Scharf]

I can name my son Jedi.

[Co-host]

Oh, yeah, You're a big Star wars guy.

[Host Abby]

You're into Lego, so you love, like, the Lego stuff.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, I was just gonna name him Lego, but I couldn't do that either.

[Host Abby]

Lego.

[Matt Scharf]

I don't get what I want.

[Co-host]

Dang it.

[Host Abby]

I guess all these questions are for Matt, because this is from Madeline. June7, share your favorite dad joke because apparently you just have dad jokes as

[Co-host]

soon as you got pregnant.

[Matt Scharf]

Jokes in the frickin can. Oh, wait, did you hear about that circus fire last week? It was intense.

[Host Abby]

It was crazy.

[Matt Scharf]

That was good.

[Co-host]

This circus is coming here.

[Matt Scharf]

Oh, my gosh.

[Host Abby]

No, wait, we're having a circus come to Arizona.

[Co-host]

Well, I'm not having that. I also probably think it's unethical.

[Host Abby]

Why is. Why is good good not in Arizona? I feel like Arizona is like the golf state of America. Like, don't we have more golf courses?

[Maddie Henderson]

Why to. Yeah, 100%.

[Matt Scharf]

I don't know.

[Maddie Henderson]

We're with you.

[Host Abby]

Like, or.

[Matt Scharf]

Or.

[Host Abby]

Or like Augusta isn't like, like Georgia, probably the taxes. Georgia.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, the taxes are unbelievably good for businesses in Texas.

[Host Abby]

That is great. That is good.

[Maddie Henderson]

But we're here. But they're here a lot. I mean, they do. Like, even if we. Here's the thing.

[Matt Scharf]

Even if we were in Phoenix here, we would be traveling everywhere. Like, we probably would have done everything. We still did.

[Host Abby]

That makes sense.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah. It was more of, like, our investors and everybody was already stationed there, and the people we were working with were there.

[Host Abby]

Got it.

[Matt Scharf]

And, like, they already had, like, plots of land that we could build our warehouse or build our, like, little. Good. Good studio. Yeah, like, they already had that. And they're like, well, we're just going to do it here.

[Host Abby]

And you travel, like, every week, right? Like, pretty much on the road.

[Matt Scharf]

So we weren't even going to.

[Host Abby]

Okay, so that makes sense. Yeah, there we go. Okay. Sid, Sid lease said, why did you return to TikTok, Maddie? Why did you or why didn't you? I don't know if this is a. Did they have a typo? Have you been. Have you been off? Tick tock. You've been like taking.

[Matt Scharf]

I think. Yeah. Why didn't you return what she was trying to say?

[Host Abby]

Oh, you've been gone.

[Maddie Henderson]

I. Well again, I used to post two videos a day. I mean I was cooking, you know, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 year old me was cooking.

[Host Abby]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

And I was doing all that. I just, I've. I think we're just at that point where I think kind of just post when I want to post what I want to post, not because I have to. And there was a time where it was a survival thing. I posted because I had to.

[Host Abby]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

And. And he does so much social media for the both of us now. Like, I mean, good, good. Really has exploded in these last six years where I, I'm not necessarily in survival mode like I was when I was like 16, which you know, might sound funny. It's like you're only 16 years old. But with what was going on in my life, it was definitely I was in survival mode. So I think I've been able to like relax now and I'm enjoying feeling at peace.

[Host Abby]

Nice. You're gonna be like a stay at home mom kind of thing and.

[Maddie Henderson]

Oh well, we do do stuff like I help manage most of his, like personal stuff because I love, I love sending a good email. I love, I love email queen. And I. So I still do like stuff on that side and I still do like my own content things, you know, just kind of when I want to, not necessarily because I have to. I don't know what that's gonna look like when I'm a mom though. I don't know how much of that is gonna change. I don't know. I think we're entering this phase of a lot of like unknowns. Like I just, I don't know what it's going to be like. I've heard stories, I've heard some people give me great things, some people say like really scary things. And so it's like I, well I, I had this girl say to me

[Co-host]

and my baby, people will say, crazy.

[Maddie Henderson]

She said, she said, just so you know, you're gonna absolutely hate your life. Oh, she goes, she goes, all moms, you're gonna hate your life. I'm like in like can't Little pink dress. I was, I was like. And like everyone has their own story and everyone has their own experience. And I'm not trying to, you know, say that. I just also, I'm gonna. I don't necessarily need that energy.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

I'm gonna absolutely hate my life. Like, I. I want to, you know, try to, you know, at least tell myself I. I believe in the power of how we speak to ourselves and what we put out there. I'm gonna try to do as much positive as I can than negative.

[Co-host]

Like, we can still be realistic as like woman to woman, mom to mom, but then also like, speak highly of motherhood. Like.

[Maddie Henderson]

Right, right. Like there are so many joys. Still gotta follow it up with something.

[Host Abby]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

And it wasn't so, like, it was followed up horribly. It was, it was just. It was just. It was a while. It was a wild little darn.

[Co-host]

Yeah, I was feeling pretty excited about it.

[Maddie Henderson]

But that's the thing. Like, there's gonna be so many unknowns. I don't know what it's like to have a newborn baby. I don't know what it's like to be. We've been together six years. I don't know what it's like for us to be married and live our life together with a baby.

[Host Abby]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

Like, this is a whole new chapter of our lives. But I'm trying to really enjoy the last couple of months where we close off this chapter of just him and I. And then as we start our new book, like, I am. I'm excited. I'm excited for it than I am, you know, know, more nervous or anxious. And it can be really quick to get anxious. So I'm trying to be in like, you know, a state of like, chill.

[Co-host]

No, that's a great way of looking at it. That's a great way.

[Host Abby]

Hold up. I just remembered a question that I wanted to ask that I totally forgot to ask. Is it true you guys. You guys did like a kids free wedding, right? Like no kids.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah, we just did.

[Host Abby]

Whose idea. Whose idea was no kids at the

[Matt Scharf]

wedding kind of mix?

[Maddie Henderson]

Listen, we have.

[Matt Scharf]

Kids are great.

[Co-host]

But I mean, you had a small wedding, huh?

[Maddie Henderson]

We had a very small wedding. And we did it in like one of our good friends backyard. Well, first of all, call that a backyard. I'm like, we walked in like, this is a backyard. It was, it was beautiful. But technically it was a backyard. And my mom's boyfriend, he set up this whole like, lit up tent. But if someone, if a child were to go and like pull on it and like, kick. It could like caught. It could.

[Matt Scharf]

Like they had a pool and everything. They had a pool, concrete with sharp edges. I'm just like, man, last thing I

[Maddie Henderson]

need is that it was less than like 70 people. Like, it was a very small wedding. And so plus like my, my. I didn't have any friends with like babies either.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

So it's like there wasn't. There's. I don't have kids in my life obviously. If like, like nowadays, like three years now, I have like tons of babies in my life.

[Matt Scharf]

If we got married right now, it

[Maddie Henderson]

would have been like so many flower. Flower children.

[Co-host]

Flower children.

[Maddie Henderson]

But I. That just wasn't the case three years ago.

[Co-host]

Right.

[Maddie Henderson]

And so, yeah. But yeah, we did have a kids free kids free wedding. And you know what? I had a lot of parents actually say they really enjoyed it.

[Host Abby]

Oh, nice. They were like kids at home.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah. They were like, we actually really enjoy this because we could just chill and like, have. Have a date night to ourselves.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

And I was like, you're welcome.

[Host Abby]

Let's go. Let's go. Okay, so instead of having flower girls, did you have beer boys?

[Matt Scharf]

Beer boys? Yeah, beer boys.

[Maddie Henderson]

No, we literally.

[Matt Scharf]

I had. Well, let's see. We had Garrett. I had Garrett.

[Host Abby]

We went to a wedding.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, it is.

[Maddie Henderson]

I've never heard of beer boys.

[Host Abby]

They had sunglasses on. There's a bunch of boys going around.

[Maddie Henderson]

I love that.

[Matt Scharf]

I've seen that.

[Host Abby]

It was a disco themed wedding that we went to. Remember that?

[Co-host]

Yeah,

[Host Abby]

everyone's wearing like, like all bedazzled up with like rhinestones and stuff.

[Maddie Henderson]

Well, so here's. I wore the wrong thing.

[Co-host]

I wore a funeral dress.

[Host Abby]

Me too. I did not.

[Maddie Henderson]

My whole family is lds. So no one drinks.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah. There's no alcohol.

[Maddie Henderson]

We didn't. We didn't do any alcohol. 1. Because we.

[Matt Scharf]

We also don't drink.

[Maddie Henderson]

We also don't drink because of other. For whole other reasons.

[Matt Scharf]

But it was crazy to think.

[Host Abby]

No, I think it's true. I mean, I'm pretty sure alcohol is like, good for you.

[Matt Scharf]

Right?

[Host Abby]

Like, it's like.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, it actually really is good for you.

[Host Abby]

I actually.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah, I heard it's like, helps you, you know, in every way.

[Host Abby]

And it doesn't cause cancer, which is like,

[Maddie Henderson]

I stopped because of my own hormonal issues and then he stopped because of his own.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah. Back problems and.

[Host Abby]

Gotcha.

[Matt Scharf]

All of. All of the. Everything.

[Maddie Henderson]

Everything comes with that. So. But then it's like, okay, we could buy liquor. But like, actually a lot of the good guys don't even Drink. Like a lot of them are like, you know, recover. Recovery, you know, from their own things.

[Host Abby]

Oh, really? They're like. They were like alcoholics and they're like alcohol free now.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah, I think.

[Matt Scharf]

Well, Bobby has. Yeah. Bubby has a crazy story. Brad also has a crazy story covering.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah. So. So really only the only people who would really drink would be like less than like six probably people.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah. For that.

[Maddie Henderson]

And I'm like, I'm not. I'm like, yeah. So I told him. I told him. I told her, Steve. I said, said, byob, bring your own. Because. But no one did because it's like, I don't know. But yeah, no one in my family drinks. So we just didn't even have to do that. So we didn't. So we did not have beer boys. But that's a good idea, right? That I will give to the next person.

[Host Abby]

What could it be you could do?

[Co-host]

Ollie Pop Boys,

[Host Abby]

thank you to Olipop for sponsoring our podcast. Wait, why is it that, like. Oh, in like in the, in like the LDS world. Because nobody drinks at all. Like, what would be a good like beer boy, like substitute? Would it be like. Oh, it could be like a swig boy doctoring up your soda for you in the a while.

[Matt Scharf]

Like if you had a swig at a wedding. Oh my gosh. Well, actually truck.

[Maddie Henderson]

Okay.

[Matt Scharf]

That would pop.

[Maddie Henderson]

You're at. But can I say something? That's actually very common. I've been to many Utah weddings where they have soda bars.

[Host Abby]

No way.

[Maddie Henderson]

Soda bars is a. It is a very normal thing.

[Host Abby]

So.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah.

[Matt Scharf]

Wait.

[Host Abby]

Oh my gosh. Have you tried coffee now?

[Co-host]

I have.

[Maddie Henderson]

I do drink coffee.

[Matt Scharf]

You drink.

[Host Abby]

Do you drink coffee often or you're like, you don't like it?

[Maddie Henderson]

I actually really enjoy coffee and tea.

[Host Abby]

Okay.

[Matt Scharf]

She loves shiny lattes.

[Maddie Henderson]

I love it because you. They say that they don't any caffeine. Well, that's not true. I guess technically because they have like

[Host Abby]

the word, the word of wisdom. Just like outlaws coffee itself. So that way, coffee that way, like Red Bull and Monster are cool.

[Maddie Henderson]

Not herbal teas.

[Host Abby]

That's right. Herbal tea is cool. Black tea, not cool.

[Maddie Henderson]

Not cool. Chai tea, not cool. Green tea, not cool.

[Host Abby]

See, we when we lived in Hawaii.

[Maddie Henderson]

Oh, I didn't know that there's a lot of Mormons in Hawaii.

[Host Abby]

There are so, so all of our friends. That's why we have so many more. We have so many Mormon friends.

[Co-host]

We were right by the school.

[Host Abby]

We moved five minutes from the. The Alaeh Temple in ot. So like, we like, half our friends are Mormon now. So it's like. I know. I know this stuff, but I still love talking about it. I think it's fun.

[Maddie Henderson]

Oh, yeah, No, I love a good swig. Most people in my life are actually lds. You know, like, all my good friends, they're lds. So it's still very much a, you know, common topic, a normal thing in my life. We just are not that.

[Host Abby]

And I have to switch between, like, Mormon and lds because, like, people that, like, everybody knows what Mormon is, but then, like, the respectful term is lds, because, like, that's what was just recently changed. That's like, that was like, five years ago, right? Like, that's not that.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah, yeah. The prophet came out and was said, we don't want to be known as Mormons anymore. We want to be known as. As LDs or the latter Day Saints.

[Host Abby]

Totally.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah. So I. I have to catch myself there, too, because, well, growing up, I would. I just have referred myself as Mormon because I thought that was. That was a good thing.

[Host Abby]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

I didn't see it as a bad thing. And then, you know, in the last couple years, I'll talk with my friends, and they're like, well, as a Latter Day Saint. And so I've been like, okay, as respect, to be respectful, I need to stop saying this Mormon thing. Start saying this.

[Co-host]

The musical, probably.

[Host Abby]

I think it was the musical.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah. That didn't help.

[Maddie Henderson]

The Book of Mormon.

[Host Abby]

The Book of Mormon musical, really? I think that was the reason they're like, we are going by Latter Day.

[Maddie Henderson]

We're changing it now.

[Host Abby]

Yeah, we got 15 minutes. Let's ask a couple. We'll play a little who's more likely action, if that's okay. Can you ask the first who's more likely question? Are we competing in this game, by the way, Addie, do you know? Is it just for them? Oh, okay.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host Abby]

You guys are in the hot seat. We're gonna play a little who's more likely and by we. Okay.

[Co-host]

This one's fun. This is kind of like new Parent edition. So to be parents, who's more likely to cry when the baby cries?

[Maddie Henderson]

Like, out of stress, Just sorrow. Well, because everything's making me cry right now. I am so emotional because of everything. Like, literally, I saw a bird limping. I'm in tears.

[Co-host]

No, literally. Today at Mini Ninjas, they played you'll be in my heart as. And then, like, for one so small, my kids are, like, doing monkey bars, and I'm like.

[Maddie Henderson]

Everything is making me emotional right now that.

[Co-host]

Don't listen to that song. That one will get you. Who's more likely to panic? Google every symptom. At 2am

[Maddie Henderson]

I feel like you. You. You would do it secretly.

[Host Abby]

No.

[Maddie Henderson]

You would do it secretly.

[Co-host]

No, I would.

[Maddie Henderson]

I would chat. GPT.

[Matt Scharf]

Second of all, it's you. Second of all, it's you.

[Co-host]

She said she thinks you do it secretly.

[Matt Scharf]

I do not do it secretly. I just. I'm a man, so I know everything.

[Co-host]

Who does it between us, you Google.

[Host Abby]

I'm the one. You're. You, like, panic and you're like, look it up, Matt.

[Matt Scharf]

I don't know.

[Co-host]

No, no. I take him straight to the doctor. I'm like, urgent care now.

[Host Abby]

Abby is the Dr. Queen, but I am. Like, when one time our kid was, like, like, on the verge of, like, croup and. And stuff, I went at, like, like, 1140, like, before the Walgreens closed, to buy humidifier so he could breathe. Oh, I'm like, the best dad.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yes.

[Matt Scharf]

Right.

[Host Abby]

Right.

[Maddie Henderson]

Wow.

[Matt Scharf]

I don't even remember.

[Host Abby]

You don't remember that?

[Maddie Henderson]

Well, it's funny, because I've literally already looked up a lot of random things. I'm like, is this, like, just, like, in the pregnancy?

[Co-host]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

Is this supposed to change colors? Is this everything?

[Co-host]

And the answer is yes, everything.

[Maddie Henderson]

They'll be like, I learned that now, but I did not. That was something I was not prepared for.

[Co-host]

No, I still learn new things all the time. I'm like, wow, gosh, fourth time around. Here we go. Who's more likely to fall asleep during the middle of the night feeding?

[Matt Scharf]

Probably you.

[Co-host]

Well, I've got the.

[Maddie Henderson]

I've got. I'm feeding, so probably you. And then I'll wake you up to.

[Host Abby]

You will be. You'll fall asleep and you'll get in trouble for it, because.

[Maddie Henderson]

Why. Why wouldn't you? Like, I want you just, like, to sit there and watch as I feed. Like, rest, take a break, and then do the diaper change.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah. Okay.

[Co-host]

Okay. He's agreeing. Who's more likely to insist the baby looks like them?

[Maddie Henderson]

I.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, maybe I'll take that one. Freaking. I. I don't know.

[Maddie Henderson]

It's because I've already been saying that I really feel like the baby's gonna look like him.

[Co-host]

Like, I.

[Maddie Henderson]

But, like, also, I gotta have a

[Matt Scharf]

couple, so I just.

[Co-host]

I feel like girls tend to favor their dads.

[Host Abby]

I'm impressed by these faces you're making. Like, you do these, like, insane facials. I can't even. I can't even.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah. I don't even know what they Are either. Don't ask me. Matt.

[Host Abby]

I can't figure out how to make my. How do you get your face to do that?

[Maddie Henderson]

But, like, for you.

[Matt Scharf]

Don't ask me.

[Maddie Henderson]

But, like, for you guys with your kids, like, do you. Because, like, I, I.

[Co-host]

You gotta meet them after. After this. I love.

[Maddie Henderson]

I love. Like, I'm sitting here, I'm like, I can't wait for her to look like him.

[Co-host]

That's what I wanted. And then they want him to look like.

[Maddie Henderson]

But I want. I want. You know, I want that so bad. And have you guys had that at all?

[Co-host]

I wanted my boys, like, mad.

[Maddie Henderson]

They look.

[Host Abby]

They're so cute.

[Co-host]

Okay, who's more likely to be overprotective in public? He already is.

[Maddie Henderson]

He has to sit. I can't sit if he doesn't have, like.

[Matt Scharf]

Okay, I gotta see the entire restaurant when I sit.

[Maddie Henderson]

There you go. That's what I meant to say.

[Co-host]

Go.

[Host Abby]

Oh, and then say me or say him or her. Because then, like, people listening can't see us, like, raving our hands. Okay.

[Matt Scharf]

Him.

[Host Abby]

Okay.

[Matt Scharf]

All right.

[Maddie Henderson]

The mailman.

[Co-host]

This is so organized. Who's more likely to turn a small disagreement into a massive brawl?

[Matt Scharf]

Female. Why don't I raise my hand? Female. Woman.

[Maddie Henderson]

Maddie. Female.

[Host Abby]

Man.

[Co-host]

Oh, my God. Who's more likely to need alone time?

[Maddie Henderson]

Probably me.

[Matt Scharf]

That's. I feel like that's gonna be you. Because you're gonna. You're gonna be. There's be a baby on you 24 7.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah, so probably me, right?

[Matt Scharf]

Maddie.

[Maddie Henderson]

Fail.

[Co-host]

Female. Who's more likely to overshare online?

[Matt Scharf]

Maddie.

[Maddie Henderson]

No. So false. So false. He'll do streaming stuff.

[Co-host]

And I'm like, saying, pulling.

[Matt Scharf]

That's definitely Matt.

[Host Abby]

He's. He's a streamer. I didn't know you were a streamer.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah, as I'm like, pull and pray.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah, no kidding.

[Co-host]

Colors. We can talk about that. All right, who is more likely to read comments?

[Matt Scharf]

Matt.

[Maddie Henderson]

Matt. Yeah, for sure.

[Matt Scharf]

It's my life. I do it 24 7.

[Co-host]

That's our same, too. Who is more likely to buy unnecessary baby gadgets?

[Maddie Henderson]

Maddie, first of all, unnecessary or necessary?

[Matt Scharf]

Both.

[Maddie Henderson]

Both.

[Host Abby]

When you read comments, are you reading, like, positive stuff?

[Matt Scharf]

And you're like, no, I read the negative stuff. Matt. That ruins my life. What kind of question is that?

[Co-host]

Well, you.

[Maddie Henderson]

You could read a hundred good comments, and then one bad comment can just

[Matt Scharf]

tanks my lines,

[Maddie Henderson]

which you do get a lot of. You tend to get more.

[Matt Scharf]

I tend to get a lot more hate. But that's for another kind of combo.

[Co-host]

Oh, no, it's just because sarcasm does not read online.

[Matt Scharf]

No, it's horrible.

[Maddie Henderson]

It's just because he's himself. Literally.

[Co-host]

They just don't like him.

[Host Abby]

So you can't be. People like don't pick up like on the sarcasm.

[Maddie Henderson]

That is so not what I meant. I meant because he's. Some people just don't like him. No, no, just. It actually breaks my heart because he is like the sweetest person ever. It's because he's really funny.

[Host Abby]

He's really funny.

[Maddie Henderson]

But if people don't like the humor,

[Matt Scharf]

people think it's always. People always think it's forced and like on purposely trying to do it.

[Maddie Henderson]

You guys have already seen multiple times him do some like kind of funny little things over here.

[Co-host]

I was raised in a dry, sarcastic family. It just makes. It's a language that some people just don't know. The Internet doesn't know.

[Maddie Henderson]

Yeah,

[Host Abby]

exactly. The reason that you're getting hate is the very reason that my brother in law likes your videos. Because it's the dry humor.

[Maddie Henderson]

That's why. That's why he has some of the strongest fans and the strongest families at the same time.

[Matt Scharf]

I have the best fans and then I have the people that hate me. It's like that's, that's kind of where.

[Host Abby]

But the only people that hate you just probably don't understand comedy is that.

[Maddie Henderson]

That's literally what I say.

[Co-host]

That's literally what I say. They're just a lower IQ.

[Host Abby]

Oh, gosh.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Maddie Henderson]

Wow.

[Co-host]

No. 100%.

[Maddie Henderson]

I don't recall.

[Host Abby]

He doesn't read the comments.

[Co-host]

I'm wheezing too much.

[Maddie Henderson]

First of all, people who leave hate comments already, I just think have a lot of.

[Matt Scharf]

What are you doing? Feel bad, dude.

[Maddie Henderson]

Like you're so miserable that you're going to go comment on this person's video. Something that just. Just to hurt them. Yeah, it's like, good job, buddy.

[Co-host]

Good job. I hope you feel big. Big. Now I know who's more likely to be the fun parent.

[Maddie Henderson]

What is fun?

[Matt Scharf]

Goofy Matt. Fine, I'll take that.

[Co-host]

I feel like kids like goofy. You know who's more likely to start talking about baby number two?

[Matt Scharf]

I feel like that's gonna be you. No, I don't know. Dang it. That's another mixed one.

[Co-host]

You should be prepared. There's something that hits at six months postpartum that really. It just.

[Maddie Henderson]

That keeps you away or keeps you.

[Co-host]

Makes you want to do it right away.

[Matt Scharf]

Well, that's what they say. They say like the mom's like, I hate this.

[Maddie Henderson]

It Sucks.

[Matt Scharf]

And then they have the baby and they're like, you know what? I could do that again.

[Co-host]

Yeah, Literally. Literally. It's crazy.

[Maddie Henderson]

We have a friend who. The guy's like, I, I want a baby right now. She's like, I need a sec.

[Co-host]

Yeah, I know that. I know people like that too. I'm just sick in the head. Who is more likely to turn into a baby when they're sick? Hey, I like that. Honesty, self awareness.

[Maddie Henderson]

But here's the thing. He's really not sick often. And with my periods, it's like I'm sick a couple days every month. And so he takes care, he takes care of me like so often I'm looking at myself.

[Matt Scharf]

Dump.

[Co-host]

No, no, you earned this one.

[Matt Scharf]

Anyway, that's what I'm looking at.

[Maddie Henderson]

He takes care of me so much. So like the very few times that he's ever sick, I let her have it Freaking.

[Matt Scharf]

You kidding me?

[Co-host]

Who's more likely to make the parenting rules, like, be the stricter parent?

[Matt Scharf]

That's gonna be such a mix.

[Maddie Henderson]

We, we actually align on like most. Like, we'll talk and if, like, if someone says, I don't necessarily know if I agree with that and then we talk about it and then we're on the 100 for the same.

[Co-host]

I love that. That's very healthy. Who is more likely to take on an intruder? H. Well, even with all the whole just in case series, you just, that's how you be, right?

[Maddie Henderson]

You're like, I, we, we've actually talked about this.

[Host Abby]

You're cats.

[Matt Scharf]

No, it'll be me.

[Maddie Henderson]

Here's what, here's what we've talked about. I, My first, my first instinct is going to go to get the baby. Like that's going to be person. You, you go do that. I mean, he just went. She was shooting a couple days ago with, with some of the guys in my family. And you're a good shot. You actually are good for me. Like my. As long as you have your glasses on. Like, for me, the middle of the night, I'm just, I'm just a little delirious. I, I don't know. I think that's. And I, and I low key think in like the weirdest way. You kind of low key want it. It's like you kind of low key want like a zombie apocalypse.

[Matt Scharf]

Every dude does, right? They all want the zombie apocalypse.

[Maddie Henderson]

He believes, he's like, if the zombie apocalypse happens, I, I, I will survive. And I'm like, unless you lose your glasses.

[Matt Scharf]

Unless you lose your glasses.

[Maddie Henderson]

Let's Run out of contacts.

[Co-host]

That was our last one.

[Host Abby]

That was good. Well, hey, you guys, this was amazing. This was so much fun getting to chat with you both. Where's the best place for people to connect with you both online?

[Matt Scharf]

Instagram, Probably Instagram. I mean, you know, YouTube for me. I. I read comments and stuff and talk to you guys through there. But yeah, probably Instagram is the easiest way.

[Maddie Henderson]

Or join his streaming stuff.

[Matt Scharf]

Or join my stream. Smash our fun. YouTube.

[Maddie Henderson]

Whatever. Shout out.

[Host Abby]

Well, sweet, you guys. Well, this was. This was amazing.

[Matt Scharf]

We.

[Host Abby]

We really enjoyed laughing with you guys. This is fun.

[Maddie Henderson]

This is so fun.

[Host Abby]

Yeah, I genuinely laughed a lot.

[Matt Scharf]

Yeah. Let's go.

[Maddie Henderson]

I'm so glad we could do a little pit stop on our sockets.

[Co-host]

Seriously.

[Host Abby]

Everyone go follow them.

[Co-host]

I have a baby named Prediction and

[Host Abby]

like, the button, I want to know.

[Matt Scharf]

Oh, my.

[Co-host]

I think it's going to be Star wars coded in some way.

[Maddie Henderson]

Okay.

[Matt Scharf]

O. Interesting.

[Maddie Henderson]

Do you have a name that goes with that?

[Co-host]

I need to do a baby yoga.

[Matt Scharf]

Leia.

[Co-host]

That's the only Star wars girl name I know.

[Host Abby]

Is that Russian? That's not Russian.

[Co-host]

No bonus points if it's Russian in some way.

[Maddie Henderson]

It's one of the only. Leia is probably one of the only girl names in Star wars that isn't like, I know.

[Co-host]

Our kids are like young Jedi, which you might find is on Disney plus. It's like, oh, yes, young Jedi. Okay, kids show and they have the books and I'm like, like, I can't.

[Maddie Henderson]

You're not naming your kid Padme or Sabine.

[Co-host]

I might need to consult you so I can read some of their books more accurately. That's awesome. Thanks so much, you guys. You guys are a blast.

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