Brock, Boston & Kesley on Mormon taboos, surviving a plane crash, and waiting til marriage

Summary

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Episode: Brock, Boston & Kesley on Mormon Taboos, Surviving a Plane Crash, and Waiting til Marriage

Date: February 18, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this honest, playful, and deeply insightful episode, Matt & Abby sit down with viral twin creators Brock and Boston, alongside Brock’s new wife, Kesley. The discussion delves into their unique experiences as young, faith-driven content creators, navigating public relationships, expectations of Utah and Mormon culture, surviving a traumatic plane crash, and negotiating the boundaries of faith traditions around dating, missions, and marriage. The episode balances lighthearted banter, vulnerable storytelling, and thoughtful unpacking of misconceptions, making it engaging for both long-time fans and newcomers.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Utah/Mormon Culture & Misconceptions

[03:29–17:14, 19:01–22:30]

• Utah Slang & Stereotypes:

  • The group jokes about local Utah “swear words” like “frick” and “fetch,” using these as an entry point to discuss cultural quirks and how their upbringing shaped them.

    "Frick is my favorite one." – Matt [03:38]
    "Are you fetchin' kidding me?" – Boston [03:54]

• Living in Tennessee vs. Utah:

  • Brock and Boston share what it’s like moving between states, differences in pace, and how Tennessee’s slower, farm-based lifestyle contrasts with the suburban, friend-centric Utah life.

    "Tennessee, we have some land. And then Utah, we live in the suburbs... We have Swig too." – Brock [05:37]

• Public Misconceptions about LDS (Mormon) Faith:

  • Kesley clarifies common misunderstandings, especially the focus on Jesus Christ, not Mormon or Joseph Smith.

    "People think we worship Mormon or Joseph Smith... but in reality, it always comes back to Jesus Christ." – Kesley [16:39]

• Coffee, ‘Word of Wisdom,’ and LDS Health Code:

  • The group addresses why Latter-Day Saints avoid coffee, discussing both doctrinal and personal perspectives.

    "In our church, we believe that we have just prophets here on earth today... one of [the commandments] was to not drink coffee." – Boston [19:35]

• Modern Prophets and Continuing Revelation:

  • The guests explain the LDS belief in ongoing revelation for contemporary guidance, including adapting to social media.

    "We still have modern day scripture coming out from our prophet today and... apostles." – Brock [22:10]

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2. Family & Twin Dynamics

[23:27–26:59, 29:29–33:27]

• Twin Differences & Similarities:

  • The twins play off each other with ease, discussing how outsiders distinguish them ("He’s got more gray hairs..."), and how their close bond translated into years of being best friends as well as business partners.

    "Our voices can sound the same. Yeah, but they sound different." – Kesley [24:26]

    • Fun moment: Face ID works for both brothers’ iPhones [80:21].

• Romantic History & Public Relationships:

  • Brock and Kesley's story started with a chance meeting and led to public collaboration on YouTube and eventual dating. They reflect on going on a break, having their reunion exposed on TikTok, and the challenges of a teenage public relationship.

    "We went out in public, and it's just a girl saw us, and [posted] 'they're back together.' Tens of thousands of likes." – Brock [32:47]

• Close Family Relationships:

  • All three guests credit their parents’ trust and open communication for their strong relationships as adults.

    "They weren't super strict. They had a lot of trust in me... I didn't want to lose my parents' trust." – Kesley [33:56]

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3. Marriage/Mormon Dating Culture

[36:17–41:03, 84:41–87:34]

• Young Marriages:

  • 21 and 22-year-old newlyweds, Brock and Kesley, describe the openness of their families to young marriage due to both personal values and Utah cultural norms.

    "They wanted to help us out. They also got married at like 18." – Brock [36:50] "We're actually very late [getting married] for the Utah timeline." – Kesley [37:13]

• Waiting Till Marriage:

  • Addressing pressure, they affirm their choice and the meaning it holds for them.

    "That's the best gift I could give my husband...a clean and pure body." – Kesley [87:13] "It's a connection that you won't have anywhere else with anyone else." – Brock [87:34]

• Transitioning to Marriage:

  • They reflect on smooth adjustment due to their long friendship, with small points of friction ("She’s getting better at putting the toilet paper on right" – Brock [39:42]) and lessons learned.

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4. Surviving a Plane Crash: Trauma and Perspective

[41:03–54:16]

• Recounting the Crash:

  • At 16, Brock and Boston’s family, along with the pilot and his wife, survived a small plane crash in rural Utah—a rare feat. They narrate thoughts and prayers during the ordeal, the impact, blacking out, and regaining consciousness.

    "Literally seeing the ground, soon we were going down...I had all these different thoughts go through my mind." – Brock [45:06] "I was just saying a prayer. What else can you do?" – Boston [45:22] "We were some of the only survivors that summer." – Boston [41:52]

• Post-traumatic Aftermath:

  • The trauma set in later, with Brock experiencing anxiety on subsequent flights. They also reflect on the unlikely convergence of circumstances: an EMT on site, med kits, and proximity to help.

    "We would have been on the other side of the mountains and nobody would have seen us." – Boston [48:09]

• Life Perspectives:

  • Emerging from the crash left them deeply aware of life’s fragility and the importance of family.

    "It threw everything into perspective. Like, we shouldn’t take every day for granted… family's the most important." – Boston [53:53]

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5. YouTube, Influence & Public Eye

[29:29–34:43, 62:39–64:44]

• Starting Young on YouTube:

  • The twins and Kesley reflect on how family channels shaped them, the weirdness of growing up with an audience, and negotiating boundaries between private and public life.

    "We were blogging in elementary." – Brock [30:06] "Was there ever a time...something got shared that you wanted private, that went public?" – Matt [31:56]

• Entrepreneurial Family:

  • They discuss their family’s entrepreneurial spirit—dad’s businesses, mom’s hair & zipper bedding company, and their own forays into home DIY before turning 18.

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6. Missions: Rules, Challenges & Spiritual Growth

[07:11–16:39, 44:45–61:13]

• Rules & Sacrifices:

  • Both Brock and Kesley served missions (Brazil/Massachusetts for Brock, Montana for Kesley) and Boston is preparing for Vancouver, Canada. They outline the mission rules—limited family contact, no dating, media restrictions, and the emphasis on service.

    "We only could call our family once a week...they just recommended not to text or call them." – Kesley [10:48]

• Navigating Relationships:

  • They maintained their relationship through weekly calls, but gave themselves freedom in case life changed over the two years.

    "We'd both agreed...like, if things did change, it would be okay, 'cause two years is a long time." – Kesley [12:02]

• Social Impact of Missions:

  • Both twins describe the mission as a transformative experience, pushing them out of their comfort zones and, in Brock's case, overcoming social anxiety.

    "I feel like I kind of did break out of my shell on my mission." – Brock [58:35]

• Service vs. Proselytizing:

  • Depending on the mission area, some missionaries are limited to service (like helping people move) rather than proselytizing.

    "Some missions, they can only just do service...like, just help people out." – Kesley [60:54]

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7. Rapid-Fire: Agree to Disagree (Game)

[77:32–87:34]
A light, playful segment where the group votes on controversial or fun statements:

• Tasting Coffee: Both Brock and Kesley admit to trying it once, feeling it’s more about discipline than the drink itself.

  "We're going to he double hockey sticks." – Boston, jokingly [78:26]

• Twin Telepathy: They believe they have it—backed up by being able to unlock each other’s phones with Face ID and having strikingly similar thoughts/outfits.

  "We say we have twin telepathy and we actually have rehearsed this in the past." – Boston [81:39]

• Marital Fights: Slightly different after marriage: "We have to hash things out, communicate, can't just go to bed mad." – Brock [83:42]

• Waiting Until Marriage: Both agree it was meaningful and worth it for their relationship.

  "I think that's the best gift I could give my husband...a clean and pure body." – Kesley [87:13]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On surviving the plane crash:

  “I remember just, like, holding onto my seat, bracing for impact and then it was just black.” – Boston [42:44]

• On public relationships as teens:

  “We didn’t want to be in the public eye, like, that fast... but a girl saw us, and posted 'They’re back together!' Tens of thousands of likes.” – Brock [32:47]

• On misconceptions about Mormons:

  “People think we worship Mormon or Joseph Smith... but in reality, it always comes back to Jesus Christ.” – Kesley [16:39]

• On choosing adulthood fast:

  “They wanted to help us out... They also got married at like, 18.” – Brock [36:50]

• On relationship maturity:

  “We were sort of together, but also if things did change, it would be okay. Cause two years is, like, a long time.” – Kesley [12:02]

• On twin connection:

  “We've had weird experiences where we've, like, been talking about something and then the person would finish the sentence.” – Boston [79:53]

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Timestamps for Significant Segments

• Utah Culture & Slang: 03:29–06:16
• Twin Differences & Family: 23:27–26:59
• YouTube Origin Stories: 29:29–31:22
• Plane Crash Story: 41:03–49:06
• Misconceptions about Mormonism: 16:39–22:30
• Missions: Spiritual Impact and Rules: 07:11–16:39, 44:45–61:13
• Agree to Disagree Game: 77:32–87:34

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Final Thoughts

This episode offers an engaging blend of humor, vulnerability, and faith-driven reflection. The authenticity of the guests—especially in addressing difficult subjects like trauma, public scrutiny, and faith boundaries—makes it a compelling listen. The twins’ dynamic, the openness about Mormon taboos, and the practical discussions of love, trauma, and adulthood add valuable perspective, both for insiders in the culture and outsiders curious to understand.

Where to find the guests:

• Brock and Boston: @BrockAndBoston (Instagram, TikTok, YouTube)
• Brock and Kesley: @BrockAndKesley

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Well, Abbey, correct me if I'm wrong, but we had a friend that you noticed wasn't feeling well and you suggested that they take some iron and immediately they were feeling better, right?

[A]

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[A]

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[C]

Our family got in a plane crash.

[D]

Seeing the ground, soon we were going down. I had all these different thoughts go through my mind.

[C]

I remember just like holding onto my seat, bracing for impact and then it was just black.

[B]

Or guys like sliding into your EMS when he was on his mission for six months. Yeah.

[D]

Other missionaries.

[B]

Other missionaries.

[D]

How are these guys not locked in? We say we have twin telepathy and we actually have rehearsed this in the past.

[B]

No way.

[C]

As for shape, we do triangle.

[D]

I don't know why he chose circle.

[C]

Sorry, I forgot he was getting nervous.

[B]

I've tasted coffee.

[E]

Both Brock and I did the same day.

[C]

No way we're going to he double hockey sticks.

[B]

Today on Land, we sat down with viral twin brothers Brock and Boston, who blew up when they're only 12 years old. Recently, Brock married his high school sweetheart, fellow TikTok creator Kesley, after a short two month engagement. This episode was so good, you guys. We talk about Utah culture, Mormon culture, the pressure of waiting till marriage, as well as the traumatic plane crash that nearly killed their entire family, all on today's episode. By the way, if you have not already subscribed to the podcast, the majority of you guys are not subscribed. It's something like 60% of the people watching every week are not subscribed. So please subscribe. It's the free way you can support the show. Without further ado, let's get into it.

[C]

What's up, dudes?

[B]

And welcome back to Unplanned Guys. Today we have Brock in Boston and Kesley with us. Super stoked to talk to you guys. Thank you. Thank you for being here, by the way.

[D]

Thanks for having us.

[A]

I was just asking them before we started filming about where they are currently living, because I knew that they had spent a lot of time in Tennessee, but I was like, they are from Utah.

[B]

This might be a little edgy. I wanted to ask you guys, though, what's your favorite Utah swear word?

[C]

Am I allowed to say that?

[B]

That's my favorite. Frick is my favorite one.

[D]

Oh, yeah, there you go.

[B]

And what the fetch I still like, I've never heard. You guys have heard fetch, right?

[E]

Yeah, I never said it, but I've heard it.

[B]

How do you use fetch in proper context as a. As a Utah citizen?

[E]

It's kind of like, what the freak.

[D]

You know, like, are you fetching kidding me?

[B]

Yeah, now that we might need to cut that out of the episode.

[D]

All right.

[C]

Bleep that. Blur out my mouth.

[B]

What the bleep? Do people ever say that?

[D]

I mean, honestly, what the bleep? I don't know.

[E]

I don't know.

[B]

Maybe I say frick. I say, Yeah, I think, like, I. I think. I think I start saying that because Fred was like a YouTuber, like 20 years ago when I was like a kid. Do you ever guess 20 years ago? Fred, Fred? Yeah, Fred. I love him.

[C]

I love him. That Was like the beginning of brain rot. Like brain rot. Yeah.

[B]

Back thing.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

He'd be like, hey, it's Fred. Like that.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

I love that.

[A]

That was actually really good.

[C]

You like that?

[A]

I' don't do it again.

[B]

He was my idol. Okay.

[A]

That's too much. Okay. No. So I was saying, I was like, I know that they like are in Utah, but then Tennessee. I was kind of confused. Come to find out their neighbors. Can you even say you guys were.

[B]

Neighbors with Dave Ramsey in Tennessee?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Can we?

[C]

Is that good old buddies?

[D]

Can we say that?

[B]

Is that public information?

[D]

I mean, we're out of that neighborhood now, I guess.

[B]

That's so sad. Dude. Dave is still a dream guest for this pod.

[D]

Yeah. You know, Dave's a cool guy.

[B]

You guys meet him?

[D]

Unfortunately we didn't, but we had to claim as our neighbor. But my mom did. I promise.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

That's awesome.

[C]

So we have.

[D]

We're kind of tight.

[A]

They're kind of tight.

[B]

I love Dave. I read his books when we wanted to get married young because that was.

[A]

Matt talks about him a lot on this podcast. Just try to put on the pressure.

[D]

That's awesome.

[B]

Dave, if you're watching this, we would love to chat with you. We're your biggest fan.

[A]

You had some cool neighbors there, you say that's cool.

[C]

So random.

[A]

That's so fun. Yeah, we love Nashville a lot. We're actually going there literally in a couple days.

[B]

Yeah. Do you like Nashville more or Utah more?

[D]

That's hard.

[C]

I actually love both. Like I feel like people ask me if which one I love more, but it's such like a different way of life in like either one. Like Tennessee, we have some land like farm animals. And then like Utah, we. We live in the suburbs. We have like friends that are close by and we have swig too. So there's that. Yeah, I would say.

[D]

I. So I hated Tennessee at first because I was like moving away from my girlfriend. I was. We were also in high school and stuff, so I was pretty hard.

[A]

But like now that's a hard time to move, huh?

[D]

Yeah, it was awful. I hated it. Now I'd say that I like really love Tennessee just cuz like our farm, it's like the pace is a lot slower. We're not doing crazy stuff all the time. It's just chill.

[B]

Okay. For anybody that gets you guys confused, you're Brock, you're Boston, right?

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Okay. I was gonna say. Cause if you were Boston, I'd be like, why do you have your hand on her Leg. Sorry, that was a really dumb joke, but.

[C]

No, seriously.

[D]

What?

[B]

Like, I'm genuinely curious. You guys are twins. You probably get twin questions asked all the time. How, like, how do people tell you guys apart? Because I'm dumb. Like, I. I legitimately.

[C]

I feel like we look different.

[D]

Yeah, I feel like we look a little.

[C]

I mean, he's got more gray hairs. You don't have to tell him that.

[A]

You both have very thick hair.

[B]

Wait. Yeah, that's kind of dope you got. Is this called a burst fade? Is that what I'm seeing?

[D]

Dude, I don't know. Like modern mullet. My mom gives me my haircut, so.

[B]

No way.

[C]

Yes. Huh.

[B]

Has that always been a thing? Your mom giving you guys haircuts?

[C]

Always.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Frick. I need to learn. You have two boys.

[B]

I need to learn. What if I. What if it's like dad as barbershop and I started getting my two and three year old haircuts?

[C]

You could.

[D]

You could literally learn it. I learned it. I had to do my own hair for like two years, so you could easily just pick it up.

[B]

Oh, you did on your mission?

[D]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

You're kidding.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You can't get haircuts on your mission.

[D]

I mean, it's kind of against. I'm not.

[C]

No, no, no.

[A]

You totally can't convince.

[D]

I went to, like, some like, Brazilian barbers and stuff. And, like, I don't know, I just kind of liked how I did my hair, so I just learned it myself.

[B]

Wait, so you went on a mission to Brazil for two years? That is hardcore. Yes. Sorry.

[D]

So I went there for two months and then I had to come back home because I was having gallbladder attacks. So I had to get my gallbladder taken out because I had, like, gallstones and stuff. And then they shipped me back out to actually Boston, Massachusetts, where I like, learned Portuguese still. And so I was still kind of like, around like the Brazilians and stuff. But then I finished my mission out there.

[B]

No way.

[D]

It's pretty crazy.

[A]

There's like a population of like, Brazilian people in Boston.

[D]

It's crazy. Like, it's. It's a melting pot. You got like, Ecuadorians, you got Brazilians, Cape Verdeans, like, just so many different people. So. Wow.

[B]

Okay. If you were to knock on my door right now, what would you say? If you were on your mission?

[D]

Dude, I would just invite you to church. Like, that's like, hey, we got church this Sunday.

[C]

You want to pull up?

[B]

What?

[D]

It'll be fun.

[B]

What do people usually say when you.

[D]

Say that people usually say no, or they're like, ah, maybe like, next time or something. That's basically it.

[B]

But did anyone ever invite you inside their house and bake you cookies? Because that's what Abby did for the mission, for the elders.

[A]

We became a restroom stop for this neighborhood.

[C]

You guys are like the goats.

[D]

Like, missionaries would talk about you guys.

[C]

They're the best.

[E]

Like, literally for the day. You'd be like, that was a miracle.

[C]

Like, we gotta go in.

[D]

That's so awesome.

[A]

No, it became a restroom stop. They would knock on our door and be like, I'm so sorry. Can we quickly go to that? I was like, sure. It happened more than once.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I was like, I think we got. It got communicated.

[B]

We were newlyweds. Those were.

[A]

No, no, I'm talking about this house.

[B]

Oh, wait. What the frick, Abby? What the frick. What the Fetch.

[A]

Where are you at? No, you're talking about Missouri. In Missouri. So we lived next to. I don't know the name of, like, the term for, like, the name of the building where the missions.

[B]

Like, I think it was just.

[C]

Oh, the mission home.

[B]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

[A]

No, but there's like a. Like a place where.

[D]

Where all the missionaries go. Yeah. Is a church building or.

[A]

Yeah, it was, like, right next to our house.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[D]

That's crazy.

[B]

There's no temple in Springfield, Missouri.

[A]

Story. Like, oh, wait, what were you saying? What's it called?

[C]

Yeah, it's just the church.

[A]

I think it's just the church.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, transfers. I think if I'm like, understand everything correctly. Like, all the missionaries go there and then they transfer, like, and get, like, their new companion.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They did have companions at this point.

[D]

Yes. That's the meeting spot.

[A]

It was, like, raining one day, and I was walking to my house, which was right next to it, and someone just comes out with an umbrella.

[B]

Sister.

[A]

Sister Shell walked me to my house under an umbrella. And then we started talking. And then I was like, you guys should come over and eat cookies. And then we baked cookies for them. And then I was like, we can watch a movie. And they're like, no.

[B]

I was kind of a bad influence. I pushed it hard. I was like, guys, come on. We don't need to say anything.

[A]

We did. We did not.

[B]

You're already here. Let's just watch a movie.

[C]

And they still. They didn't fold.

[B]

Nope.

[A]

There's a group of them. I think there was a group pressure, too, also, to not.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

That'S like. Like, going on a mission is like, hardcore, though. I'm always very impressed by people that do that. I mean, what are some of the rules that you had to follow on your mission?

[A]

And you're about to start?

[C]

Yeah, I'm about to start. Yeah. Good luck, bro.

[D]

Honestly, the mission was awesome. Like, I feel like we didn't have, like, crazy, crazy rules. Like.

[C]

Well, like, what would you.

[D]

How did you explain, like, just like, the missionary rules.

[A]

Did you go on a mission too?

[E]

I did.

[A]

Where'd you go?

[E]

I went to Montana. Oh, cool.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

That's why we love it. Well, I love it so much.

[D]

He has.

[E]

He hasn't been.

[D]

I gotta visit Montana.

[A]

Yeah, you do.

[E]

Yeah. But some of the rules, like, we only could call our family once a week. So, like, every Monday we'd call our families. And so, you know, they just, like, really, really recommended not to text them or call them throughout the week so you could really focus on the work. What's some other rules?

[A]

Like, well, no movies. I learned that one.

[D]

Wait, was that no movies? Yeah, no movies. Because you gotta stay locked in.

[E]

Ye.

[D]

And then another rule would be, like, you have to stay, like, with your companions. So whoever you're with, you have to stay with them at all times, except for, like, bathroom, obviously, and stuff. But, yeah, that's probably safe, right?

[A]

You can't date.

[B]

No dating on your mission.

[D]

I mean, technically you're not supposed to, but you got.

[B]

Did you guys break that rule?

[A]

You guys were still dating, but you were not in the same.

[C]

We were together, but, like, like, we, like email.

[D]

We'd also, like, text. Should I say maybe I FaceTimed you?

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

You're not. You only are allowed to, like, FaceTime family. Oh. But, like, would you know, we're family right now.

[D]

They are.

[A]

Now you are.

[C]

You knew you were gonna be.

[B]

Because our friends that have been on missions, a lot of them broke up with their significant order other while they were on their mission. So how did you guys stay together? That's really hard to do.

[E]

It was hard. I don't know. I feel like we both. I don't know, we both kind of just agreed that, like, we were sort of together, but also, like, if things did change, like, it would be okay. Cause two years is, like a long time. So we kind of. We would talk just every Monday and then just kind of went from there. And then we came home, saw how we felt.

[A]

What was that reunion like after two years? Because you had dated for a long time before your match. That's crazy.

[B]

You started dating at 14 and 15.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Holy Cow.

[A]

Was there ever a time you were like, I'd rather just get married and not serve?

[D]

See, that's what I was thinking, because. So that was my plan, but it ended up changing. So, yeah, basically, like, my dad, he didn't serve a mission, and so I felt, like, no pressure from, like, family or anybody. I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna do the same thing my dad did. My dad got married to my mom and stuff, and right. Right out of high school, so I'm.

[C]

Like, you know what?

[D]

I'm gonna do that same thing. And then she had other plans.

[B]

On yours at the same time.

[E]

Yeah, well, so the boys are 24 months, the girls are 18 months. So he actually went out before I did, and then I went out six months after, so we'd get home the same time. But yeah. No, you were the one to decide the mission first.

[D]

Yeah, actually, I did. So that's.

[E]

But we were planning on getting married after high school, but then, I don't know, things just changed.

[B]

Okay, be real with me, though. Were guys, like, sliding into your DMs when he was on his mission for six months?

[E]

Not when I was home, but when I went out on my mission.

[B]

Really?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

What happened?

[E]

Nothing. Just, like, they would try to message me, but I.

[D]

Like, other missionaries.

[B]

Other missionaries?

[C]

Yeah, other missionaries.

[D]

I'm like, how are these guys not locked in? Bro, you gotta be.

[C]

Gotta focus on Jesus, dude.

[D]

There's a work.

[A]

You've been dating for so long.

[D]

Six years.

[E]

He said, yeah, yeah. So I. A lot of them knew that I had, like, someone at home.

[B]

But what is a. A DM look like from a fellow missionary?

[D]

What would be like, hey, sister, I saw this scripture and it reminded me of you?

[C]

I don't know.

[D]

They're more just like. They're like. I don't know, like small talk.

[C]

Is there.

[B]

Is there like a cheesy scripture? I mean, not cheesy, but like a. Just vanilla one that's overused, like. I know, I know. Like New Testament. Like John 3:16. Like, somebody could be like, yeah, like, John 3:16 just, like, spoke to me, and I just, like, really love you. Like, is there something like that in the Book of Mormon? Is there something like that?

[C]

I don't.

[D]

No, I gotta think, like, the Word.

[B]

Of wisdom, would they be like, man, the Word of wisdom was speaking to me. Like, I don't know.

[E]

Well, like, there's like, first Nephi 4, verse 6 says, and I was led by the Spirit, not knowing beforehand the things which I should do. No one's used that. But, like, I guess you could be like, oh, I was led by the.

[D]

Spirit to, like, talk to or something.

[E]

I don't know.

[B]

There you go. If you need that to slide into a missionary.

[D]

There you go.

[A]

Okay. So you guys didn't obviously go on your mission same time because you're about to leave for yours.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

If you guys would have, like, decided to serve a mission at the same time, is there a world where they would put you both on the same one because you're identical twin brother?

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

I feel like that.

[A]

Is that against the rules?

[C]

No, I think it could, like, I don't know.

[D]

Yeah, it's like, always possible. Like, the thing that they do is you go. You felt like these forms, like, and stuff, you sign your life away. Not really. You said kind of tell them your interest. Like, if you would be interested in learning a language or going out of the States and stuff, you just send them that. And then they pray about it, and then they choose the location of where you're. Where you serve. So, yeah, I guess, like, they totally could. Like, I've heard of other siblings serving in the same area that their other siblings served or like, someone's dad served in, like, the same area. I don't know. It's just random. It's like, it's a lottery.

[B]

And isn't there, like, like a month period that you go somewhere, like, near BYU's campus to be trained and, like, learn the language?

[C]

Yeah, the mtc. So it's like the mission training center. That's where you go.

[B]

Mission training. Oh, mtc.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Huh.

[A]

We were actually thinking about this. We're curious to ask you guys. What do you think that people get them, like, most commonly get wrong about, like, the LDS Church or, like, Mormonism. The church. Because I feel like, honestly, on the spot and like, because of, like, the secret lives of Mormon wives. Like, this has been such a topic online. Like, people are talking about it so much and, like, online. And so I feel like there's got to be some things that you hear or, like, read about. You're like. Or see, like, representing. You're like, not really that.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

I think, honestly, there's a. On. There's a lot, to be honest. But I think one thing that a lot of people get confused about is if we actually worship Jesus Christ, which we do because it's in our name, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, but the Mormon name was a nickname, and people think we either, like, worship Mormon or Joseph Smith was the one that like translated the Book of Mormon into English. People think we worship him, you know, like all these things, but in reality it always comes back to Jesus Christ. I think that's the most misconception about our church.

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[E]

It's an interesting topic because we're told not to drink coffee. In my perspective, I think it's more of just like an addiction thing. Like coffee can Be addictive, but so can soda. And so, like, if you're addicted to it, then maybe, you know, like, kind of stay away just because you don't want it to become, like, your main focus. Like, you don't want to be able to survive, you know, without this thing. That's how I look at it. I think it's more of just an addiction thing than it is the coffee.

[A]

Coffee.

[E]

But I'm still learning, so I don't know.

[D]

Yeah, totally. It's also, like, a thing, too.

[C]

So we.

[D]

So in our church, we believe, like, that we have just prophets here on earth today that speak to God, talk to God, and they give us commandments. And so one of that was to not drink coffee. That's just like, one of, like, the commandments we were given.

[C]

So, yeah, it's in this. It's in this thing. It's called the Word of Wisdom. And in the Word of Wisdom, it says, like.

[D]

Well, it's like a health code. So it's like. Like, all these things that we follow to stay healthy. Like, we don't smoke, use drugs, but.

[C]

Then also has, like, things that, like, you should do, like, you should eat. What is it?

[D]

Like?

[C]

Like, vegetables.

[D]

Vegetables in moderation. And so it's like. It's kind of like a big health code they gave. But that's the thing that sticks out the most. Because. Com. Like, because coffee is, like, the most common thing. So it's like. Okay, it's like a commandment of just like a health code. And then you have coffee in there, and people like, oh, what? Coffee is like, the best. It's awesome. So people get mixed up, and then.

[B]

The Word of Wisdom, Is that within the Book of Mormon or is that a separate, like, doctrine in addition to the Book of Mormon?

[D]

Yeah, it's separate.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah, it's separate. Yeah.

[B]

And. And that was written by Brigham Young. Is that. Is that who wrote it or who.

[D]

No, it's Joseph Smith.

[B]

Joseph Smith.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Okay. Got it.

[D]

And this is, like, one of his revelations.

[B]

Who is Mormon I actually like, or who is the guy? I gotta get my facts right, dude. Like, I need to know.

[A]

They're putting the hot seat right now.

[D]

I got these questions all the time on my mission, so it's like. Yeah, not a problem at all, babe. Do you want to answer that?

[E]

Yeah. So in the Book of Mormon, we had these golden plates that were kind of passed down from generation to generation. So it starts with this guy named Nephi, and then it goes all the way down until, like, Mormon and Moroni. So Mormon is the dad of Moroni and he basically sealed up the plates. Like Moroni hid the plates until they were. It was time to bring him out. But Mormon, you know, I kind of sealed and put all the plates together.

[C]

So you have all these like old.

[D]

So like, let's think of it as other prophets on like the other side of the world. Like, I don't know, like years and years and years. Like before. Yeah, just like that.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And it's basically the same, but with prophets here in, in the Americas, like the ancient America. So it's like same sort of thing, writing down all their like revelations and stuff. And then you got this guy Mormon at the very end. He's like, you know what, I'm gonna compile all these. I'm gonna write my name on it. And so like that's what he did.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And then.

[B]

Okay. And then correct me if I'm wrong. So people that are a part of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Wow, that's a long name. I feel that's why they say LDS people like identify as Christians and believe that these plates were then translated by Joseph Smith back in the 1800s. And then that's where we get the Book of Mormon. Yeah, yeah, okay.

[D]

Yeah. We just believe because like Smith, he was called to be a prophet of God. And then from that time after he was called to be a prophet, we continue to have prophets and revelation and stuff. So like we still have like modern day scripture coming out from our, our prophet today and from his apostles that we believe. So yeah, dope. Thank you.

[B]

I love it.

[D]

It's like we get, we have like continuing revelations, so we have more things to help us and guide us in today's world. Because like back in the day they didn't have phones and stuff. You had no guy to like go and say, hey, we're have phones in the future. Don't do this, don't do that. But now we have like apostles and prophets we believe in today that can give us guidance on how to use our phones and how to use social media.

[B]

Okay. I've seen missionaries doing social media. Is that like encouraged now to like reach people? So it's like you're allowed to post faith based church stuff on social media while you're on your mission, but not to just like scroll and everything.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[E]

That's basically it. Just they have. I've had, I had Facebook on my mission, so I was able to like post on Facebook just a little more like uplifting content and then yeah, they encourage you just because like social media can go so far.

[B]

Yeah, that's cool. Okay, that's. That's dope. Thanks for explaining all that, guys.

[C]

That's cool.

[E]

Hopefully it made sense.

[A]

I think you're. Your guys content is specifically sweet and enjoyable for us to watch because we have two little boys now that kind of think they're twins because they're a year apart. So they're like our buddies and we always are. Like, I just hope they stay friends and hope that they stay close. And so seeing you guys, obviously you guys are twins, but you're still close now as young adults is so fun. But I feel like. Okay, so Matt asked earlier. I feel like people can tell you guys apart. Maybe just not Matt because I'm dumb.

[B]

But it's like, do one of you guys have like a frec on your, like, left cheek or something that like people like, oh, yeah, I'm. I'm the freckle one.

[C]

Or like, I think there was a freckle.

[B]

Or like, like, if I'm looking at you, you. Okay, it's my left. Your right. But you have like, right there. You got a freckle, but you don't have it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Then I can know that Brock is the one.

[A]

Babies. Did you guys look like the freckles?

[B]

Really? Okay, hold up though. Has it ever been weird? Like, did you ever have a time where you got them confused? Be real right now.

[E]

There's been times where, like, I'll hear. Because sometimes our voices can sound the same. Yeah, but they sound different. It's. I don't know. It's weird. But. Yeah. So there's been times where like, I'll walk out and like Boston will be turned the different. A different way. And I'll almost think it's Brock.

[A]

But they're not helping out the haircuts.

[D]

Hey, he copied me with the mullet and stuff.

[C]

So that's why.

[A]

Because I even like from a side glance, confuse you with Caleb sometimes your older brother and just because like the side or I don't know, you're like, not like staring at them in the eyes. Like you would know then. But like I told Caleb earlier, I was like, sit right here. And I was like, oh, you don't have to. I was like, so I can see that happening. Yeah, especially you guys spend a lot of time together.

[B]

Did that weird you out when you got them confused? You're like, oh, God. Oh, man.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Luckily it was just in my mind.

[A]

So I was just like.

[E]

Like it's never happened. Where I'm like, I don't know.

[B]

Like, you're not kissing. Oh, whoops. Kiss the wrong brother. Like, that's never.

[A]

Yeah, okay.

[E]

Luckily, that's never happened, but, yeah, it's.

[D]

It's.

[C]

It's.

[E]

It's weird. Sometimes they sound the same, and I'm like, what is going on?

[B]

You guys need to prank her at some point. Brooklyn and Bailey, it was dirty, you guys. They pranked their husbands. You guys remember Brooklyn and Bailey? We had them on the show, and they. They did, like, a. Like a swap prank. And I think it was Dakota that grabbed. I think it was. Yeah. Brook Bailey, he grabbed Bailey's behind, which is not his one, which is crazy.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And like. And in the video, like, they filmed this whole thing in the video.

[C]

I thought it was the funniest video. Yeah.

[B]

So you guys gotta do that terror sometime. I'm just kidding.

[C]

After the mission.

[B]

Oh, gosh, that's funny.

[A]

But I was gonna ask, like, growing up, was it like, okay, this is. This is kind of Brock's thing. This is Boston's thing, like. Or did you guys, like, were you guys always, like. We had the same interests, like, always want to do the same things.

[D]

I feel like we kind of grew up, like, completely different. I was more into, like, sports and stuff. Boston was more of. I don't know. He loved doing, like. He loved making money, like, doing random side hustles. Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Mr. Entrepreneur over here.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I feel like your whole family is entrepreneurs.

[D]

Almost.

[C]

Almost got into Disney.

[A]

I could totally see that.

[B]

I took dance. You guys ever take dance growing up? Do you guys do, like.

[C]

Oh, wait, rock. We actually did hip hop in break dancing.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I wish I would have taken break dancing. That's so dope. Can you guys spin on your heads?

[D]

Didn't get to that level, but I.

[C]

Think we actually did, like, one or two lessons. And then after that, we were done.

[A]

Yeah, that's funny. We should enroll Griffin.

[B]

I want to enroll our kids. I'm also like. I'm like, should I give them private lessons? Because I used to. Like, I've had private crap lessons. I can tap things.

[C]

Oh, no.

[D]

I needed.

[B]

I need to whip. I've never tapped on TikTok, ever. I feel like I should do that. Be kind of fun. We're eating distracted.

[A]

So you guys had separate interests growing up, but you guys always got along?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

That's always been good.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And what's your love story? How'd you guys meet?

[D]

She remembers it better than I do.

[E]

So my friend and I just went to the Movies. And they were there with their cousin and uncle and stuff. And this is. So I had a channel with my family, and they apparently watched it because of their sister. And so they noticed me and my friend and came up and was like, hey, can I. Can we get a picture? So I took a picture with them. Not really. Like, I. Nothing crazy there. But I remember I went home and I thought it was crazy because it was boys who came up to me, you know? Like, I've never had boys take pictures with me. So I went to my mom. I was like, look, this was crazy. They tagged me in their photo. Like, boys took pictures with me.

[C]

How old did you think that Brock was, though?

[E]

Oh, my gosh. The thing is, Brock was here.

[A]

To me, he was tiny, so I.

[E]

Literally thought he was, like, my brother's age, which he.

[A]

Do you guys still have a picture?

[C]

Yeah, we do.

[E]

Yeah, we do.

[D]

We need.

[A]

You need to send it to us. I have to see this. Yeah.

[E]

But he was super short, and so I didn't think anything of it. Right. But then I told my mom. I was like, oh, look at these kids. Like, they were so nice and stuff.

[D]

Same age as me, Bar.

[E]

And then my mom did some investigating and just, like, looked at their account because they had a combined account and realized, like, they were my age and they have their own YouTube channel. And so then my mom was like, we should go and collab with them. So we set up a time to collaborate.

[D]

No, we were the ones that DM'd.

[E]

Really?

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

And I set that up.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Oh, wait.

[B]

Did you guys both have family channels? I think, like, was it your parents that were doing the channel and then you guys were, like, in the end, the channel or how did that work?

[E]

I. I was in the family channel.

[C]

They were just together.

[B]

Okay. Okay, nice.

[E]

So, yeah, it was. Yeah. Just collaborated, and then we all became friends there.

[C]

Mm.

[E]

And then, like, two years later, probably when we were 16, is when we really started, like, dating.

[D]

Ah.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

15.

[A]

16.

[B]

Oh, so. So you. It wasn't 14 and 15. It was 15.

[E]

16.

[C]

We met.

[E]

14, started dating.

[D]

I was 13, I think, when I met you.

[E]

Oh, wow.

[D]

I think I was 13. Yeah.

[B]

And you're a year older. Was that.

[E]

I'm six months old.

[B]

Six months older. Okay.

[D]

Cougar.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

That's wild.

[A]

Pretty crazy.

[E]

Yeah. So we.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Collaborated and then hung out.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Started dating. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. That's sweet. So you guys have both, like, I've all done YouTube for, like, since you were sixth grade.

[D]

We were blogging in elementary. Yeah.

[B]

And you Guys, whose idea was it to start YouTube?

[C]

So it was my idea because, like, we. I mean, we grew up, like, watching YouTubers and stuff. Like that was kind of thing. We started. We stopped watching just, like, regular tv. And then I remember, like, Brock was over at our cousin's house, and I called him up. I'm like, dude, come over here. We're gonna film a video. Alyssa said that our sister, she's gonna edit it and we'll put all together. So we did it. It was like a Q and A or something. And then like, a couple days later, we hit, like, 100 subscribers. And we were just freaking out. We couldn't believe it. We're a big deal. Our big break.

[A]

That's sweet.

[B]

What was the moment for you guys when you were like, oh, we made it, because for me, that was getting the silver YouTube play button. Was. Was there something like that for you guys that, you know, felt really cool?

[D]

I think even earlier when we got, like, the 10,000. The 10,000 subscriber email from YouTube, we were just up, like, all night waiting for it to hit. Like, please, please, please. So I feel like that was insane.

[C]

Yeah, that was right after we. We posted our first collab video with the Leroy's. And then after that, we hit 10,000, and we just were.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Could not believe I didn't realize this.

[B]

So you guys, like, you were collabing with your. Your family's channel, and then your family have been like, how long had your family been vlogging on YouTube or creating content on YouTube?

[E]

Yeah, so I was in sixth grade, too, and I think when we started growing followers was probably when I was in seventh grade. And, yeah, we. It started with, like, my mom and I, we called it a whole different name. It was called Raising Mom. And it was just gonna be, like, our relationship because I'm really close to my mom, and it was. It was so fun. But we started filming around with the family, and they loved it too. And so we're like, oh, let's just change it to the Leroy's. And so we filmed, you know, like, our. Just our daily lives and stuff, and people caught on to it, and it was. It was fun. It was really fun. Yeah.

[B]

Was there ever a time through being in the public eye for so long that something, like, got posted or something that got shared that you guys were like, oh, wait, I wish I could take that back. Something like that you wanted private, that went public.

[C]

I don't know if you guys want to keep this in, but, like, when you guys, like, broke up, For a second. And then the video on TikTok how that girl was, like, taking pictures and then posted up from the cheer competition.

[B]

There was a girl leaking stuff about you guys without your permission. That's so sad. So you guys are, like, teenagers, and you're just navigating, like, dating, and you're on a small break and some girl leaked it. Is that what happened?

[E]

Well, so we. We came out and said, like, we. We were on a small break, but then we got back together, and we didn't really want to be in the public eye, like, that fast, so we kind of just took a break. But we went out in public, and it's just a girl saw us, and we're like, they're back together.

[C]

So tens of thousands. Yeah. Of likes. It was crazy seeing.

[E]

Yeah, it was. It was okay. Like, it didn't bother me too much, but it was funny. Like, it. Things spread really fast, but.

[B]

And you guys were, what, like, 17, 16 when this happened?

[D]

Like, 17.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

17.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That's so crazy.

[A]

It seems like. Like, both of your families are really close. Like, you guys are all, like, really close with, like, your parents and, like, your siblings and stuff. And it just makes me wonder, like, what did your parents do that you think growing up that, like, made, like, having a relationship with them as adults so, like, seeming. It seems, like, easy and fun, like, enjoyable for you guys.

[E]

Oh, that's a good question.

[D]

I would say. I think my parents did a really good job of, like, taking care of us, like, making sure we're doing the right things, but they also weren't too strict, because I've seen with some other friends where their parents are super strict and they like sneaky kids. Yeah. So, like, I feel like my parents did a good job of that. Hey, you can always talk to us. Also, don't do dumb stuff, but also go have fun. I feel like they had a good balance of.

[C]

Yeah, 100%.

[D]

Yeah. You say with your mom. Because I think you have a good relationship with your.

[E]

Yeah, my mom, she. I mean, she. She knows that, like, everyone's gonna make mistakes. Right. And so she would tell me, like, oh, I did this. Like, it's okay. Like, you're. You know, just. She always made me feel comfortable to tell her things. Like, if I did make a mistake, like, I would be able to tell her and be like, what do I do? You know? But, yeah, they were. They weren't super strict. They had a lot of trust in me. And that I felt like, as a. As a teen was like, okay. Like, I Don't want to lose my parents trust. So you know, I'm not gonna stay out too late. And if, if I wanted to, like I could text them and they'd be like, yeah, sure, you know, but it was just always like a, just lot of trust and they always communicated with me really well so that I, I was comfortable to tell them things that, you know, maybe usually people would hide from their parents.

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[B]

What did your parents think when you guys like wanted to get married at 20, 21. 22. You're 22 and you're 21?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Right?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, they were already planning on getting married.

[D]

They were helping us out.

[C]

Let's get this thing done quick.

[B]

That's so unique though, because I feel like most parents, at least in America, if they're 21 year old. Kid. Yeah. And I'm gonna, okay, you're not a kid, you're an adult. But like, I mean, I look at myself, I look at myself six years ago, I'm like, oh my gosh, I was still so young. Like, that's. That's so unique.

[C]

Yeah, they.

[D]

They just. They wanted to help us out. They also got married at, like, 18.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And so they're all young, getting married. Okay. It's like, this is. This is the regular.

[C]

Maybe that's a little too late.

[B]

Well, that's super common in Utah. Right. Because. Yeah, people often thought, like, still, I think there's people that think that we're LDS because of how young we got married.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

The stereotype. Yeah.

[E]

We're actually very late for, like, the.

[D]

YouTube, like, for this.

[C]

I feel like they're kidding.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

What's the standard age?

[E]

Like, 18? 19?

[B]

No.

[C]

I'm way high school.

[B]

You're 21.

[C]

I'm stressing, guys. I'm stressing. He should have had kids, like, two years ago.

[B]

You don't have seven children yet. What do you do in Boston?

[D]

Come on.

[E]

Literally. Yeah, it's. It's crazy. So. I don't know. I. They were supportive, though. Like, they.

[A]

Sweet.

[E]

They were very supportive.

[B]

Well, guys, I listened to you guys on a podcast that was posted five months ago, and you guys were still dating. Five months ago? Yeah, that's what it said.

[C]

That is crazy.

[B]

So you guys, how. How many months? So four months ago you got engaged. Is that. Is that correct?

[E]

We got engaged as.

[A]

As soon.

[E]

September.

[B]

Okay, Math. What is that?

[D]

That's September to October.

[B]

So that's like almost five months.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

You guys got engaged almost five months ago. You've now been married for three months. Okay.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

That's a quick starting together. Pretty quick.

[C]

Yeah, we did.

[A]

Was it big?

[E]

Was it big?

[A]

Yeah, I don't know.

[C]

What's a.

[D]

What a big wedding size?

[E]

Like, it's like.

[D]

What would you say is like a huge wedding?

[A]

I would say a big wedding is like 200.

[B]

200 plus.

[D]

We had 200 plus, I'm pretty sure.

[C]

Yeah, I think you had 200 people rolling in.

[D]

Yeah. So it was a big wedding, I guess.

[B]

And did you have like a temple wedding and then like a after party, like, reception sort of thing? Is that how that works?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

That's dope.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

So we got married in the temple that morning, and then later we had, like a lunch and then we did a little ceremony. We did a little ceremony and. Yeah. Vows and stuff and then the reception and stuff.

[B]

No.

[A]

You guys are newly newlywed.

[B]

Yeah. You are as newlywed as they come, literally.

[A]

But you guys have some history, too. So do you feel like the transition has, like, been pretty smooth?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like it's been Pretty chill.

[E]

We were already with each other so much.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Like, the only thing different is, like, now we're with each other at night.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I mean, there's a couple things, like toilet paper that she kind of does wrong, like a little arguments, but you're like, no, no, it's been awesome.

[A]

That's sweet.

[D]

I feel like we've been loving it. It's been so much better for us to just be married. And that's instead of just, like, hanging out and.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

You guys are patient. Very patient.

[B]

What is something that you've learned about one another since getting married?

[C]

The toilet paper.

[D]

It goes on.

[B]

Is this something that you guys disagree about? The way the toilet paper we talked.

[D]

About actually in the video.

[C]

But it's just.

[D]

I know.

[A]

That's fine.

[D]

But she's getting so much better.

[C]

She's doing so good.

[E]

I don't really care how this goes.

[A]

But he does so, like.

[B]

Okay, who's the messy one?

[E]

He's messy.

[C]

I'm not messy.

[D]

If we took a picture of our house right now, you'd see she has patches out. She probably has makeup stuff on the counter, I guess.

[B]

Is she the spender?

[D]

I think we do a good job. I think we both spend.

[A]

Yeah, they're both spenders.

[C]

It's not a good situation.

[B]

You're deep in thought right now. What are your honest thoughts about them, or. Yeah, who's the spender? Who's the messy one?

[D]

I don't know.

[C]

I feel like you guys are, like.

[D]

Boston would say I was messy.

[C]

I don't say you guys are, like, spent like spenders, but, like, you guys, like, are you. You guys save your money. We're thrifty. Yeah.

[A]

Did you feel like everyone was putting the pressure on you now that your brother, your identical twin brother is getting married?

[C]

You're like, yeah, I honestly not really, like, I feel like there hasn't been a whole lot of pressure with that, so I'm chilling.

[B]

Okay. I'm gonna hit you guys with, like, a really deep question right now. So this is, like, too deep right now. Okay. Just take a deep breath.

[D]

Let me stretch through.

[B]

Rainbow breath. I teach my kids to do rainbow breaths, like, whenever they're like, you know something. If they're upset, we'll do. I'll, like, lead them in the rainbow breath. I just. I just way over hype this, basically.

[A]

Yeah. Like, what the heck?

[C]

Here we go.

[B]

Here's the question. What is. I don't know why I make this so weird. Okay. What is. I'm sorry.

[C]

Wow. Now everyone's comfortable in this room.

[B]

Okay. What is something unplanned that happened to you that changed the trajectory of your life.

[C]

Oh, I know it.

[D]

Wait, if you know it, then just say it.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[D]

Wait.

[C]

For you or for. Or for them.

[B]

Either way, he's just thinking about us. Wait, what is it? No, wait.

[C]

No, no, I wasn't thinking about that. I was thinking about something completely different.

[B]

Wait, what was it? I want to know.

[C]

No, wait. Not. I got so offered.

[B]

Come on.

[C]

The thing that, like, changed our life, I feel like the most was probably when our family got in a plane crash.

[B]

I saw that video pop up, and I was just like.

[A]

Like, that's crazy.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I think the craziest thing about that, like. Like, looking into it, is, like, most people that have been in a plane crash, like, don't. You don't ever hear their stories. Like, that is wild.

[C]

I think there were, like. It was. I think there were six plane, like, small plane crashes in Utah that summer, and we were some of the only survivors. Yeah.

[A]

Crazy. So how old were you?

[D]

Yeah, we were 16 years old. It was just with our family, so it was actually just with our parents and then the pilot and his wife, and so we.

[C]

Yeah, we were flying over, actually. It's kind of crazy. Well, you guys know Brooklyn and Bailey, right?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay. Did they talk about on their.

[D]

How Dakota and them met with, like.

[C]

Their dating series and stuff?

[D]

I think. Yeah.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Okay. So that was the day. So, like, Dakota lives in that area, like, where we were flying our plane and everything. And they were on the date, and we're like, okay, while you guys are on the date, like, we'll go for, like, a little small ride for a short ride in the small plane. And so that day, that's what happened. Like, we were flying over the Uinta mountains, and then we lost power, and then, yeah, we ended up crashing. Okay. So, yeah.

[B]

Holy crap.

[D]

That.

[B]

That is probably, like, on my. On the list of, like, most terrifying things you could experience a plane crash. Walk me through, like, every step of what went down from. From hearing that, oh, the plane's going down.

[C]

The engine's not working.

[A]

It was gonna go down.

[C]

Yeah, he's like. I think he said, like, we're gonna have to land.

[E]

Yeah, he said, it's gonna be hard.

[B]

Okay, so. So you guys. Okay, first of all, why were you guys in a. In a private plane? Why are you guys just, like, flying over the mountains?

[D]

Literally, just for. Just for fun? Like, the pilot, really good buddy of ours, he's just like, hey, we'll go up and just fly around and stuff for a sec, and then we can come back and just chill and everything.

[C]

And Dakota.

[B]

And this is a family. This is a family friend. And how is this family friend? Like, how does this connect to Brooklyn and Bailey in Dakota?

[C]

So Dakota is friends with Shad and Jasmine.

[B]

So the pilot.

[C]

Chad is the pilot. Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Okay. Yeah, got it. And Chad or Chad or that's such a rad name.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, my God. Okay, so Shad just, like, said to you guys and your parents, hey, I'm gonna go take a. Take a little flight around the mountains in Utah. You guys want to come? It was simple.

[C]

Yeah. And we were, like, kind of joking around too. Like, do we need parachutes?

[D]

Hahaha.

[C]

Whatever. And, like, we were recording Instagram stories, and then our dad was actually doing, like, a family vlog, so we have it, like, all recorded too, and everything. Like, before, like, or when we were actually in the air. So, like, we got into the plane, like, Brock and I were in the very back. Our mom and the pilot's wife were in the middle. And then Shad and my dad were up front, and, like, we were just flying around and stuff. And then Brock, you post on, like, your Snapchat or whatever.

[D]

Oh, yeah, I had a Snapchat story of me in the plane. I'm like, might die, but you know, the vibes. And then there's a video. And then actually, like, that next day, I took, like, a picture, and it's just of all my bruises from the seatbelt and stuff. So it's like, you see that picture and that video, and then you see.

[B]

Like, did that get posted in the air? Like, did you get posted?

[D]

So I literally just saved it. I didn't, like, post it, but that would have been wild. Forgot post.

[B]

How long were you guys in the air before the plane went down?

[C]

Wasn't it like, I came.

[D]

I think it's like 15 minutes we were in the air. And then it was like 12 seconds between when you were like, okay, we need to go. We're landing. We need to go down. And then we went.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. Only 12 seconds.

[C]

Yeah. So it was, like, quick. We had to, like, think of things. Like what we. Yeah, yeah. That was actually the craziest.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

We just had a million things, like, running through our head. I remember. I remember literally seeing the plane and like, even, like, seeing the ground. Soon we were going down. I'm like, am I good enough? Like, what? What's gonna happen to my body? Like, I had all These different thoughts go through my mind. And then. What were you thinking about the time when we were going down?

[C]

I was just saying a prayer. I was like, what else can you do? Like, you're just. I don't know.

[E]

Stuff.

[D]

You can't.

[C]

There's nothing else to do. So I just, like, like, said a prayer. And then I remember just like. I was, like, holding onto my seat or something. And then, like, we were. Yeah. Bracing for impact. And then it was just like a crunch. And then it was just black, like. And then.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Everyone blacked out because that's how hard the impact was.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Was this like a nose dive?

[D]

No, I feel like it's more of like a hit where. I don't know.

[C]

It felt like an instant, like.

[D]

Like a bone, like a bomb and a little bit of a slide. So I just.

[C]

Huh?

[B]

What? And then this is my question, too. You landed next to a lake. When you. When you land a plane that's crashing or you're. You're, like, trying to navigate a plane crash, is it good to land in water? Because I know the guy that landed the lake. Well, the Hudson river guy who landed the.

[C]

He.

[B]

They made a movie about him. He landed the plane in the. In the Hudson River. So, like, is there a reason that he landed not in the water?

[D]

Yeah. So it was, like, purely just because he, like, literally, like, felt.

[C]

I don't know, prompted to.

[D]

Yeah. Prompted to go and land on the state. So there's three. Three options. You had the. The lake. You also had the sand, like, the beach area and then the sage brush. Sagebrush flat. That area. And he literally just felt prompt. He's like, I need to go and land here because if I do any of these other things, it's gonna kill everyone. So he, like, gonna flip. Yeah, he literally just had those thoughts. And so he went and decided on the Sage verse flat. And then, of course, a lot of people got hurt, but no one died.

[B]

And that is a miracle that no one, like. Yeah.

[A]

And there's people close by.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[E]

Which is.

[A]

It looks so remote, so that's kind of surprising.

[D]

Yes. It's pretty far out in this place called Moon Lake. And there's actually an EMT that was on site that happened to see our.

[C]

Plane going down, like, right in between these, like, two pine trees or.

[D]

Yeah. And so he's like, that doesn't look right. I gotta go. He said are running, yelled at his son to go grab, like, their med kit and stuff. And they came, ran. They came. They came running towards Our plane, which.

[C]

Had that med kit, like, had the IV something or whatever. My dad ended up saving our dad's life if they didn't have it in time.

[B]

That is so wild, because your dad had some of the worst injuries of everybody, Right?

[D]

He broke, like, everything, except.

[C]

Except for his arms. Yeah, he broke.

[B]

He broke what? His, like, pelvis, his leg.

[C]

They both had spinal cord injuries, like.

[D]

Bleeding everywhere, Bleeding out of his ears. It was wild.

[B]

How many minutes did it take for the paramedic to respond?

[C]

I think the other, like, the. There was an ambulance, too, that was doing another training that was, like, 45 minutes away or, like, way closer than where the hospital was. Yeah. So it was, like, another miracle that they were able to get people to come to us. But, Yeah, I can't remember how long.

[A]

It was, because you could have landed anywhere. Like the mountains.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

It was minutes before we would have been in.

[C]

We would have been on the other side of the mountains, and nobody would have have seen us. Yeah. No way we could have landed.

[A]

And I remember on the video, they said that he thought to turn off the engine or else it would have probably, like, exploded.

[C]

Oh, gone up in flames.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

So the plane didn't catch on fire.

[D]

But there's, like, fuel leaking out the side of the plane.

[C]

It was a hot summer day.

[D]

Like, like, the best things happened.

[A]

In a word, in a bad situation.

[C]

Yeah, they were, like, so much worse.

[A]

I'm sure you probably don't necessarily like hearing that, though, because you're like, this was a scary, traumatic thing, but, like, just, like, thinking about something like that happening and the way that you guys were able to, like, share about it, honestly, so quickly afterwards, because I watched the video, like, right after it had happened. I think it had, like, your dad was still in the hospital. And, like, I was like, they clearly have, like, talked about this as a family, as well as you can, like, to start processing that type of thing. And my question is, like, you guys flew here. Now, is flying. Does it feel separate because it's like, a bigger plane and commercial, or like.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Is there still, like, a fear?

[B]

How do you not have a. Like.

[A]

And I've never been in a plane crash.

[D]

Yeah. I feel like in the beginning, right after our plane crash, I was fine. I'm like, oh, I could go on a plane. Like, this is fine. And then I swore it was like, three months later, we're going on a flight, and I was just, like, stressed out of my mind. And then it just took my mom to just yell at me and be like, we're getting on a flight. It's gonna be fine.

[C]

And then exposure therapy, literally.

[D]

And a little bit of yelling.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[D]

You're like.

[B]

Like, crying, and you're like, mom, I'm terrified. She's like, get on the plane.

[D]

So, yeah.

[C]

Yeah, she's probably like, what, is it gonna happen again?

[B]

How is your mom not traumatized from that? Your mom seems like a bulldozer, dude.

[C]

Yeah, she's awesome.

[D]

She's awesome.

[B]

Kesley, what was your reaction to hearing about your, like, at the time boyfriend almost dying in a plane crash?

[D]

Ex boyfriend.

[B]

Your ex boyfriend. Oh, you were. You were apart?

[E]

Well, we were kind of in a weird, like, phase, I guess. Like, I guess you could say we were on a break, but we were still talking, so we were kind of together. But it was. It's actually funny because I was at the hair salon. So I was at the hair salon getting my hair done, and both Brock and I are just Snapchatting back and forth, and he's like, I don't know how he had service on the plane, but he had service on the plane. And so he was like, yeah, look, I'm in the plane. I was like, oh, that's crazy. And then there was a second there where I was left undelivered for a second, and the last thing I saw was, he was in the plane. So I was like, oh, he could have lost service. But then there was a thought that popped up in the back of my mind that was like, what if he got in a plane crash? Like, I don't know. I don't know what it was. Like, nothing. Nothing could have led me to think that, but I just did. I was just like, what if? Like, that would be scary. And then. And like, two seconds later, our friend. Our close friend calls and says, oh, my gosh. Brock and Boston just got in a plane crash. And I started flipping out, and, like, I had, like, my bleach in my hair and foils and everything, and I was flipping out. Like, my mom was there, and I was like, mom, Brock and Boston got in a plane crash. I had no idea if they survived, because, like, you said, instantly, you think, like, oh, yeah, no one's there, you know, But. But we later found out that, like, everything was fine. Just lots of, like, injuries and stuff. But it was just the scariest. Like, I could not focus that whole night. Like, I don't know. It was the craziest experience, though.

[B]

And this. This break. Like, did. Did hearing about the plane crash make you want to get back together? In a weird way, was that like something that you were like, I love him, I need him. Like, I don't know, I feel like.

[E]

Yeah, in a way. We started talking, like a lot more because this break was dumb. You know, we were like high school, almost middle school relationship, I guess you could say. You know, so it was just a dumb argument. And then, you know, this little thing that happened is just kind of shocking. You're like, oh, like, wow.

[D]

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[E]

Yeah.

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[A]

How did the plane crash, like, change your life from then on?

[D]

I don't know.

[C]

I feel like it threw everything into perspective. Like, like we shouldn't take every day for granted.

[D]

And like, like, family is the most important.

[C]

Family's the most important. And like, tell everyone that like you love them and. Yeah, I just. Yeah.

[D]

I didn't say the biggest takeaway is.

[C]

Like it made life more meaningful in a way or like it made it feel like, okay, like we got, like we got a second chance, chance at life.

[A]

That's good.

[B]

And this break, was this the same break we talked about earlier? Was this like another break in addition to the original break? How many breaks were there actually?

[C]

Wait, that might have been.

[E]

That might have been a different break.

[C]

Oh, wow.

[E]

We had two breaks, I think.

[D]

Yeah. Like, where we were like, we were like, technically broken up, but we're like, like we're still. We were still.

[E]

We were still talking, like nothing. You know, we weren't dating other people.

[A]

It was just.

[D]

I feel like we never went too long without like contacting.

[E]

These breaks were really short too. It was dumb.

[A]

But yeah, I also circling back to like, you guys deciding to like, kind of date, but then obviously it's gonna look so different, like when you're both on your mission. Like, that was really mature to be like, yeah, like, we're pro. We'd like to stay together. But also like holding it like, like open handedly, like, you know, if it works out, like, that's really mature. Whereas I feel like us. And we were. We dated in high school too. We would have been like, we are like, we were just like, it's us. Immature.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, for sure. I mean, it really was.

[A]

Yeah. We were like, there's no other option. We were staying together. But like, it was. Yeah, that's just like the high school crazy hormones and passion.

[E]

That's true. I feel like we totally would have thought that. But like, in reality, two years is a lot.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And so that's realistic. Yeah. And so we were thinking, you know, if. If we get to stay together after the mission, like, that's gonna be the best thing. But like, if there's other plans, you know, like, it's gonna suck, but we'll, you know, go. Go with it.

[B]

So what was that conversation like after the mission, you guys coming back together? Who. Who is the person that said, are we. Are we doing this? Like, who said it first?

[C]

I don't.

[A]

I don't know. I think.

[B]

Come on, you know, who was.

[C]

I mean, I was.

[B]

If that's private, you have to say no.

[C]

I would. I.

[D]

On the mission, I would pray. I think about Kessley, like every day. That's just like kind of what I would do. So I don't know. I think I was kind of ready. But by the time I got home, like, she knew I loved her and stuff and that I wanted to continue to keep dating and everything. But I would say it wasn't up until, like, our trip. We took a trip together, actually was like a week after I got home.

[E]

Yeah, a week after you got home to.

[D]

Yeah, to like, Alabama. Went down by. By the beach and stuff. And then we came back home up to Tennessee. And then we just kept talking about the getting together logistics of it. What do you want to do it? And then it was like, then when we made the decision. Right.

[E]

Yeah, it was. I feel like it was mutual. I think we were both like, this is a huge step. Like, are we ready for that? But then. Yeah, it just. We all. We thought of, like, the logistics and things and everything just led to, like, getting married. And so I think.

[D]

Yeah, I think, like, some other parts too, is like, Cass and I have been together forever. I also came home and I was able to see her for a little bit. So, like, we. We went. Was like 18 months without seeing each other. Yeah. And so that was like. Another thing is we also, like, had our missions line up to being, I know, three weeks apart from being able to see each other when we got home. So it's pretty cool, too.

[B]

Kind of random, but you dropped my. You jogged my memory when you talked about praying. Don't Latter Day Saints not believe in hell? But there's, like, different levels of heaven, so it's like everyone has an afterlife, but depending on, you know, you know, X, Y and Z, you end up in a different, like, realm. Is that correct?

[C]

Yes. Yeah, so we believe.

[D]

Yeah, so we. Yes, we believe that. So, like, we believe, like, if you were. I don't know, to. If you were to be baptized, entering all the covenants that you're supposed to, like, these special promises with God that you'll be able to live in, like, a celestial glory. And then there's also one that's like. Like we compare celestial glory to, like, the sun because it's as bright as the sun.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And then we compare, like.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Then we have terrestrial, which is another one. It's like, compared to the brightness of the star, the stars. Right.

[C]

Oh, the moon.

[D]

Sorry, I'm getting mixed up. But then there's. Then there's telestial, where it's like, the brightness of, like, the moon and stuff. And then we also do believe, like, that there's hell, but it's kind of hard to get there.

[C]

Yeah, because he wants all his kids at the end, at the end of.

[D]

The day to be with him. Even if you had, like, a really bad kid that is kind of, like doing everything wrong, you still, like, would want to, like, love them and help them out. And so that's why we have Jesus Christ. He comes into play, he'll help us out, and through him we can repent and become better.

[B]

And you've said through your mission that it kind of helped you get out of your shell. What was it about the mission that did that for you?

[D]

Before the mission, I was pretty social. Well, actually not crazy social. I feel like the mission was where it hit me where I'm like, I need to be talking to more people and stuff. And I actually learned a language too, on my mission. So I got a experience, like a whole new culture. And I was just talking to people every day, facing rejection of this, inviting someone to church and then having someone, like, cuss out at me. Like, I had, like, all those experiences and stuff, and so I feel like I kind of did break out of my shell on my mission.

[B]

What was the. What. Who is this guy that cussed you out?

[D]

There's a couple.

[B]

More than one? More than once.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Could you count the times that you got cussed out on one hand or is it like multiple hands?

[D]

I feel like it'd be multiple hands.

[B]

No way. Who are these people that are cussing people out?

[A]

There's one so bad.

[D]

There's one guy down on. So the street called Everett down in Massachusetts. This one guy, he'll yell at you every single time if you invite him to church or if you just say like, anything to him. If you have your white shirt on, your tie, if you put like a black name tag on, he'll yell at you. He'll literally yell at you. I promise, bro.

[B]

Why aren't missionaries going incognito? I feel like you guys should show up in like. Like, nobody know. You go in like blitzkriegs. Right? Like, nobody has any idea.

[E]

Yeah, I know.

[A]

Is that a conversation? They're like, in the church.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Well, I think there are some missions that it's like you just, like, wear regular clothes or.

[B]

That's the thing.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

There's missions where, where the missionaries do not wear the standard, like.

[D]

Like the proselyte clothes. Yeah.

[B]

Dress shirt, short sleeve khakis, helmet if you're on a bike. Like, that's not what's. What's the mission where they're wearing street clothes? I'm so curious.

[C]

Well, okay.

[E]

In my mission there, we actually had reservations. So like Indian reservations in Montana, there's.

[C]

A lot of those.

[E]

And so when we, us sisters weren't allowed to serve there because it's just a little dangerous. But the elders, when they go and serve there, they were able to wear like jeans and a T shirt because like a big, like the suit and tie, it's very intimidating. It's just, you know, like. Yeah, yeah. Not a good fit. So they were able to wear like T shirts and stuff. But a lot of areas, like different missions aren't even allowed to go, like door to door or like talk to people about and like teach them them, you know, like, some missions, they can only just do service. Like just help people out.

[D]

There's no proselyting, just straight service. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, why?

[B]

Why is that? Is it because of the culture they don't. They don't want.

[D]

Yeah, just like culture and different laws too.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

So, yeah, it all just depends on where you're at.

[B]

So what type of service are you doing?

[E]

Honestly, anything. Like, you could, I don't know, like.

[D]

We'D be doing dishes, we'd be on a food banks. Like, we do any type of service we. We could get our hands on.

[C]

So if you need help, if anyone.

[D]

Needs help, you literally call up the missionaries. They will hook you up.

[B]

Wait, that's kind of dope. So if there's someone like struggling in life right now.

[D]

Yeah, you.

[B]

They could just call up like a local LDS mission and be like, could someone help me?

[A]

Like, they help me move all the time.

[B]

Do someone help me move?

[C]

Wait, I packed up.

[D]

I packed up like two houses. Like the whole house. Like, me, my companion, and then some other people.

[B]

You guys are put moving companies out of business.

[C]

No, Matt, seriously serves.

[A]

No legit, legitimately. They're the best movers. Because actually our friends were like, no, like, we'll get you. We'll help you move. You do not need to hire someone. Come to find out, it was like members of their church. I was like, I am not going to steal that service. But I remember it was like getting settled out.

[B]

Who was this that offered?

[A]

Caitlin? She's like, seriously? No, my ward.

[E]

They're great.

[B]

Caitlin offered up her ward to move us last year. Oh, my gosh.

[C]

And they'll do it.

[D]

They'll happily do it too. That's like the crazy part. Like, they'll do it with a smile.

[B]

On their face is that the most common is moving people, cleaning houses.

[E]

I mean, I helped out with like branding cows and stuff in Montana.

[B]

So branding cows. Wait, that's sad. Were you sad branding the cows?

[E]

It was sad at first, but then my. My friend made a point where it's like, if you don't brand the cows, then people can steal them and kill them.

[D]

Oh.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

So it was like, that made me feel better. I was like, okay. They're just, like, marking their territory, I guess.

[B]

Wow.

[D]

It's a little tired.

[E]

It is sad.

[B]

Holy cow. Also, random. Random question I've got on my notes here. You guys bought a house at 17. Can you talk to us about that? How the crap. What in the YouTube. How did you guys buy a house at 17?

[D]

Yeah, so we. We just been doing YouTube forever and stuff. And one of the things we wanted to get into is, like, home, diy, real estate. Something we've always been, like, big fans of. I know. Property Brothers. Yeah. Proper guys. So that's just, like, something we wanted to do. And opportunity came up when we were in Tennessee. And.

[C]

Yes. Saved up all our money and then spent all our money, and then we.

[D]

Sold the house after.

[C]

So we did renovations to it. So, like, it was actually cool. Well, when we. When we moved to Tennessee, we were in high school. We were only there for, like, a semester. And then we decided to switch to online. And then for when we were doing online, one of our classes, like, we could do was, like. I know. We figured out a way that, like, with the house renovations and with, like. Yeah. We could turn it into a credit if we, like, do things about it. Yeah. And so we renovated a house, like, learned all these skills. Like, well, painting, that's, like, our nightmare now. Oh, now you're like, no painting, but never painting again. Like, oh, we'll tile. We'll do, like, we'll make beams. We'll do.

[B]

But why? Why paint is. Why is that the fear?

[D]

Oh, it's gotta be an artist if you want to do painting. Like, we just, like, be painting and you just see, like, a diff. Like a spot and like, off. Yeah.

[C]

It was just too much for us.

[D]

We couldn't do it.

[A]

Was it hard on your brotherhood to. I mean, people always say, don't renovate a house.

[E]

Spouse.

[A]

With your spouse. Like, with your spouse. Because it's like, oh, yeah. Testing your marriage.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Was that hard for you guys, or were you like.

[D]

I mean, with him, I can yell at him. So I'm like, it was fine.

[C]

We also had our dad.

[D]

He's an electrician, and stuff. So he taught us.

[C]

Awesome. Yeah. So we gotta learn. Yeah. There are so many skills that we Gotta learn in that year, year and a half. Yeah.

[A]

Did you turn it around for a profit?

[C]

About that.

[B]

But you lost money on the house?

[C]

No, I think we kind of broke even.

[D]

We split even.

[C]

We broke even with, like, the renovations. Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

We got credit for school, and then we also got to, like, learn all.

[A]

These different pay for credits usually.

[C]

So we did some. Yeah. Deal deals.

[A]

Like, you learned a lot.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

A question I have for you, Boston, is you chose to, like, delay going on a mission for a period of time. Like, did you. Was there a time where you're like, I'm not going to do one, or, like, did you just have different plan for after high school?

[C]

Yes, for sure. So, like, after high school, it's, like, pretty common for members. Members of our faith to go on missions. And for me, I was like. I just, like, was not like I was being prayerful about it, but, like, was not getting a for sure answer. And I'm like, I'm not gonna do it if I don't have, like, a for sure answer. Like, I need to know that this is right for me. So anyways, Brock started, like, filling out his papers to, like, submit for a mission and everything. And I was like, ah, this just isn't it. Like, you, like, you do you or whatever. And then, like, right before Brock was leaving on his mission, like, it was like a couple days or whatever, we were at the beauty supply, and my mom was, like, getting, like, this haircut stuff for Brock to bring. And he turned to me, he's like, dude, are you so glad you're not going on a mission? Because, like, Brock was, like, so sad and, like, just, like, depressed. Honestly, like, it was just. Yeah.

[D]

I've never had more anxiety in my entire life.

[A]

That's a scary thing to do.

[D]

I was about to leave. Yeah.

[B]

Because we do everything together, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You guys have been, like, conjoined.

[A]

Was that the hardest part or like. I'm sure there's a lot of hard parts.

[D]

I think the hardest part was leaving her. Second was leaving him too. Yeah.

[A]

And you're just doing something where, like, you're just completely away from, like, all your comfort.

[D]

Yeah. So we're like, I'm just gonna go to Brazil, try and pick up a language, live with a bunch of random dudes that I've never met in my entire life.

[A]

And then you're like, yeah, I'm glad.

[C]

I was like, yeah, I'm glad I'm not doing it. I'm glad I'm not doing it after seeing all of this, because like it was just a rough, it was a rough week at our house before Brock. Brock left.

[B]

But that's so sad.

[A]

And you have an older sister too. Did she go on one or were you the first in your family? Okay.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

First in the family, first generation.

[B]

What are you most excited for with your mission? Do you know where going? Do you know?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh you do?

[A]

Yeah, I saw the video, man.

[B]

I haven't seen the video. Where. Oh wait, where are you going?

[A]

He grabbed about with his grandparents.

[C]

Oh, yes, yes. Yeah.

[B]

So. So everybody knows every.

[C]

Everybody know. You ready for it? Wait, what's your guess though? What's your guess?

[B]

Oh gosh.

[C]

It could be in the country. It could be like in the United States or be out of the country.

[B]

Now I'm going to feel dumb cuz I feel like someone told me and I just forgot. I'm going to, I'm going to say out of the country. Right or wrong? Wrong. I'm. Is it in the country?

[C]

You're right.

[B]

Where you going? I'm so excited to know.

[C]

It's Vancouver, Canada.

[A]

That's cool.

[B]

Oh my gosh, dude, that's where they had the Olympic, the Winter Olympics like 10 years ago. Oh, I remember. Yeah. Or maybe it was like 20 years ago. I'm old, learning a language.

[C]

No English. And I'm like so happy about it.

[A]

I know there's a lot of French, right?

[C]

Well, French.

[B]

And then I had a buddy that did California and he had to learn Spanish for California.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Because there's a lot of Spanish speaking people there.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Huh.

[C]

So English. And then I'll be there for like the anticipated time is 24 months. So we'll see if I hit the two year mark. I'm here to just try it out, so.

[B]

And you worked a corporate job for a little bit in there too.

[C]

I did for a little bit. I was climbing that corporate ladder nine to five.

[B]

And you gave it up.

[C]

Yeah, well I was doing social media and doing that.

[B]

That's a lot, dude. That's a lot to do. That's two full time jobs at the same time.

[C]

Yeah, it was. Yeah. It was fun though. I loved, I was actually, it was for this company called Betty's which is actually my mom's company. It's like zipper bedding.

[A]

We have them and we love them.

[B]

We actually have that upstairs. Yeah.

[A]

Our kids, them sleeping them. We have the football one and the dinosaur one.

[B]

We figured that out yesterday. We were like, wait a second, your mom made our kids bed.

[A]

We love them.

[E]

We've.

[A]

We've shared about them.

[C]

That's so cool.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, that's so.

[A]

Like, they can actually make their own bed, and they're three years old.

[C]

And then were you guys, like, the.

[B]

Poster child of Betty's when you were kids?

[C]

We were the ones that, like, made her start it. We were the OGs.

[D]

No way. Yeah.

[A]

Why is that so genius?

[C]

Because so with bunk beds, it's, like, trying to get in there and, like, making your bed. Yeah. And it's, like, so hard to, like, go around the edges and, like, tuck everything in. And, like, all the blankets is just such a mess in my arms. Like, there needs to be a better solution. So she ended up going to. It was like, hobby lobby or something. And, like. Or yeah. Got, like, fabric and then, like, the biggest zipper that she could find. And then our grandma helped sew the first prototype.

[A]

I saw their video about this.

[B]

That's hardcore, dude. Was that, like, the first time your family entered into entrepreneurship, or had your family been doing entrepreneurship stuff for years?

[C]

I mean, our dad, he started up.

[D]

His own, like, electrical and pool business and stuff.

[B]

Oh, dope.

[C]

And then our mom did hair, and so they kind of did, like, their own type of businesses.

[D]

Yeah. But, like, this is, like, where they created something, like, completely new. Cool. Was with Betty's stuff.

[A]

They're so easy to wash, too.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Just one piece.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Throw it in.

[D]

They're the bomb.

[A]

We've had them for a long time.

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[D]

Yeah.

[B]

What are the rules around that? Like fill me in. Like were you just basically off the Internet completely for two years or was there a way for you to take like a video or two here and there?

[C]

Yes.

[D]

So like with Boston and I, there's like times where I could take videos of myself and stuff and like send it to him. But as for like social media stuff, we didn't have YouTube, TikTok, Instagram or anything, anything like that on our phone when we had Facebook and then we actually got Facebook taken away out of our mission just because I know there's 18, 19 year old kids that are on missions. They're gonna scroll Facebook reels.

[B]

Was there somebody that abused it? And yeah. What happened? What did this kid do?

[D]

He probably was watching some reels and then not working and being focused and stuff. And so yeah, there's, I think there's a couple kids that happened too and so they took it out of our mission. But yeah, we still had like other social media stuff that you're doing within our mission.

[A]

Do you feel like you guys Are less addicted than the average, like 20, something like early 20 year old, because you had to like, delete everything for two years, year and a half, or did it make it the reverse happen? Like when you got back.

[B]

You didn't.

[D]

Like, want your phone when you came back, Right? Was that kind of like the case?

[E]

Yeah, when I came home, I just, like, I didn't really want to be on my phone. It was hard posting on social media again, so I was like, I don't really know what I'm doing. But I don't know, I feel like because I was away from it for so long, I did jump right back into, like being on my phone all the time, which I'm trying to be better at that. But yeah, I don't know.

[D]

I feel like we do pretty good because we. I feel like we try and create more than we just consume. I feel like that's pretty good thing that we've all been doing.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I feel like I don't scroll reels as much as I used to and.

[B]

Okay, Boston, you gotta fill me in, man. What's. What's the. The latest with like, are you in a relationship now? Is that a secret? Did we talk about that? What's going on?

[C]

Not. Not right now. So. I know kind of sad, but I have my mission that I'm looking forward to, and then we'll see if something happens. Happens there and then. Yeah, gotcha.

[B]

I know there's something. There's something that was posted, I think, where you were like, maybe in a relationship. I didn't know if that was just like, allegedly.

[C]

Allegedly.

[B]

Oh, it's allegedly.

[C]

Yeah. Boss has been going on dates. He's always been going on dates.

[B]

Like, what?

[A]

I think that's fun. I feel like I heard about Utah's dating culture. Like, you guys go on dates more than.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Tennessee.

[C]

When we moved to Tennessee, that was like, the one thing, like, even with, like, school dances, like, a lot of people, like, if you ask someone to a dance, it's like almost as if, like, you're dating them, like your girlfriend, boyfriend. But it's like in Utah, it's like you can just like.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Go on, like, hey, go to the stands with me. Let's go on a date. Yeah. Huh.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So I've just kind of kept that, like, more private. It. But.

[B]

And okay. And Brock, fill me in on the. On the suit that you wore at your wedding.

[C]

Oh, I know.

[B]

I saw that. That video went viral, bro.

[D]

I got roasted.

[B]

I got flame.

[A]

Explain this, because I don't even get It Matt was trying to explain to me. I'm like, I don't see that that's a problem.

[D]

Yeah. So, I mean, it isn't a problem, right?

[A]

I don't get it.

[C]

Okay, so basically, I wore a suit.

[D]

And I had, like, this Fortnite print on the inside. No one's gonna see the inside of your suit unless you, like, like, flash it open and stuff. I'm like, oh, this would be, like, super funny. Cass and I, we love playing Fortnite together. It's kind of like what our dates consisted of when we were long distance and stuff. So I'm like, this will be fun. And so I ended up putting Fortnite inside my suit. I posted a TikTok about it, and then people were like, flaming me. They're like, ain't no way he's got Fortnite inside of his suit. Like, is this kid even old enough to get married?

[C]

I'm like, okay, I guess it's a little immature, but that checks out.

[A]

That's just fun.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You should have been like, actually, my parents got married at 18, so I'm like, way more mature than they are.

[A]

That was an example of something that the commons could have gone so many different ways, but it's just like, whatever took hold at the beginning just took hold. And then everyone just repeats the same comment.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

You're like, well, you know what? This is meaningful for us, actually. And either way, it's just the inside of your suit that's funny.

[E]

I feel like there's also, like, comments, too, that were defending him. You know, they were like, well, let the guy, like, be able to, like.

[C]

The girl gets all her stuff.

[D]

And then I got my. One thing was that's a good idea.

[A]

Though, to have, like, something fun on the inside of your. I've never heard of that.

[E]

Yeah, it was cool. I thought it was fun. I. I didn't really care. I was like, this is cool.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

My wedding, I got all my groomsmen socks. Somebody had Hawaiian socks. Somebody had pickle socks. We had just, like, a bunch of different fun. I think somebody had, like.

[A]

I'm surprised you even got that organized in time.

[B]

I actually went to Marshalls and bought a bunch of socks.

[A]

That was.

[E]

Yeah, that's fun.

[B]

It was really fun.

[E]

Yeah, it's unique.

[B]

And now, okay, I know you guys are, like, have been married for, like, two weeks, but okay, like, more than that. But. But, like, have you guys talked about kids? You guys want to have kids? Do you. Do you not even know yet? Because you've only been married for so little.

[E]

I mean, I guess you could say we don't really know yet, but we've talked about it, and right now we.

[D]

Just want to travel, enjoy the time.

[E]

Like, we kind of enjoy our time.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Where do you guys want to travel?

[D]

Anywhere and everywhere. Like, that's, like, the dream right now. Just because, like, we. We didn't really travel for, like, two years and stuff. We're like, you know, we want to go and have fun and explore. So definitely think Bali.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

What else are you thinking? Brazil.

[E]

Yeah, we want to go to Brazil.

[B]

I want to go to Brazil.

[D]

This would be sick. So.

[E]

So just, like, really fun, like, cool places. Because I feel like after going to Montana and, like, seeing Montana, except I. I've been to a couple of different states, but Montana was just gorgeous. Made me realize, like, oh, wow. There's so much more out.

[B]

That's so good of you guys. That's so fun Being. Being in your early 20s, traveling the world together, just. Yeah. There's just so much in store for you guys. That's super exciting.

[E]

Yeah, we. Yeah, we're excited. We love traveling.

[B]

So do you have any more questions? Should we play our game? We. Okay. Agree to disagree. If you guys are down, we have prepared. Agree to disagree for us to play. Addie, do you have the paddles ready to go? So official.

[C]

Oh, let's go.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Let's go.

[B]

Okay, guys, this is. This is big. We. This is our first time ever using these. Agree to disagree.

[D]

Well, I don't.

[C]

Or is it just them?

[B]

I think it's just them. Well, yeah. Okay. Apparently it's just you guys playing. Agree to disagree.

[D]

All right, let's go.

[A]

Okay, I'll vote.

[B]

You want to vote, too? Okay. I guess Addie's. I mean, Abby's gonna play, too.

[A]

No, I'm not, actually.

[B]

Okay. No, you should play.

[C]

You should play.

[B]

Come on. Play. All right. Oh, we're getting crazy with the first one. Here we go. Question number one. I've tasted coffee. Is that too far?

[E]

No, I have both. Brock and I did the. Actually, probably the same day.

[B]

No way.

[C]

We're going to he double hockey sticks.

[B]

Wait, what's the story?

[C]

We were being rebellious. It looks like a good drink from Starbucks.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

So, yeah, I've had coffee before, and it could be good. I just, like, didn't really care for it, though.

[A]

Yeah, I don't think you'd like it if. Okay, so we. I'm not gonna out this person, but our friend, remember the church, like, would ask us every single Day because I drink coffee every morning. And he's just like, but, like, what does it taste like? And I was like, I don't want to lead you astray. I was like, but if you smell it and it tastes like how. It smells way good.

[C]

It smells way good. It smells good, but does not taste.

[B]

Good unless you got. Bro, you got to put creamer in it instead.

[C]

But you know what?

[D]

I put creamer in my soda instead.

[B]

Okay, that's.

[C]

Coffee is just another thing that I feel like we'll get hooked on, cuz then we'll be adding all the creams and like, all the.

[A]

I mean, when you said addicted, I was like, yeah. I mean, convicted. I am addicted to coffee.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Cuz every time, like, we would stay with him, I was like, crap, how am I going get to get coffee earlier?

[B]

Did you feel.

[A]

I was like, actually concerned.

[B]

Did you guys. When you guys tasted coffee, did you feel instant guilt?

[E]

No, I don't think so.

[A]

Like, he knows my heart.

[E]

He knows my heart.

[C]

I was just like, oh, I just.

[E]

Wanted to try it. And then it just didn't taste good.

[B]

Okay, next question. Brock and Boston have twin telepathy. Agree to disagree. Brock and Boston have twin telepathy.

[A]

I'm agree.

[B]

Agree. Why do you guys say that?

[D]

We just literally do.

[C]

We've had weird experiences where we've, like, been talking about something and then the person would finish the sentence where it was. Yeah, weird.

[A]

Especially probably because you're identical. You guys are probably the same fingerprint. Is that true?

[C]

But like, genetically, like, our DNA is.

[E]

Face ID on their phones work.

[D]

Or like when we're going through TSA airport and stuff.

[B]

Wait, shut the front door. Okay, so your face ID works on each other's phones because you're. You guys are identical twins.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Prove it.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

All right, let's try my phone.

[D]

I'm not looking at my phone. I'm not looking at my phone. While Boston, log right on in. Access granted. Wait.

[C]

It says ignore your time.

[B]

Show the camera. Prove it. Show the camera.

[A]

He's in that.

[B]

Crazy.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So you do have different fingerprints, though.

[C]

Yeah, Yeah, I think we do.

[A]

Different DNA or with the same DNA.

[B]

Same DNA.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

But like, if we think of. I know. Let's say like an. Like a. A certain thing or a shape, we usually can get it. Right? So.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

We could try it.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

It's like a thing. Think of it.

[D]

Think.

[A]

Think of a fruit. One. Don't think too hard. One, two, three.

[D]

Orange.

[C]

Let's do something else. Something else.

[B]

You come up with It.

[D]

I don't know.

[C]

We could do, like, some animal or something.

[A]

We could do shape.

[C]

Okay, okay.

[D]

What do you shape? What do you shape?

[A]

Okay, okay. One, two, three.

[B]

This is actually so embarrassing. Oh, my gosh. What? Think of, like, a, like a drink place. Three, two, one, swig. Oh, my gosh.

[C]

Wait. We got to come for you. Okay. You messed up. Okay, no, it was. I, I. I was forgetting. Okay, no, we got. Listen, we say we have twin telepathy.

[D]

And we actually have rehearsals. Rehearsed this in the past. So we're like, okay, when someone asked.

[C]

For a shape, we do triangle.

[D]

I don't know why he chose circle. But then when we think of something random, we say both.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Those are, like, the two things.

[D]

Blue.

[C]

Yeah, sorry, I forgot I was getting nervous. I was nervous.

[A]

That's funny. But you guys actually do believe you have telepathy of some sort?

[D]

I think so.

[C]

Well, there's.

[E]

There's been times where he'll talk about something, and then literally, Boston will text him about about the same thing, like, a couple minutes later. And I'm like, you were just talking about that.

[C]

Or we'll, like, I'll get ready.

[D]

The same thing?

[C]

Yeah, Brock's wearing the same thing. Like, I haven't worn this. I haven't worn this camo shirt in weeks. And then the day that Brock pulls up, I'm wearing the camera.

[A]

Did your mom guys dress you guys in the same outfits?

[D]

Yeah, a little bit when we were.

[C]

But I think it was, like, coordinating because, like, we had the same outfit, but it was, like, also a different color. So, like.

[A]

Okay, that's kind.

[C]

Brock was red. I was wearing blue.

[A]

Yeah, that's cute.

[B]

Okay, next we have Kelsey knows a side of Brock Austin. Oh, Kesley, I'm so sorry. Do people call you Kelsey all the time? By the way, I called you Kelsey for days, like, literally having no idea I was, like, interviewing Kelsey. Yeah, Or Kelsey.

[E]

No, literally, I get it all the time. I respond to Kelsey, so.

[B]

Okay, I'm so sorry. That's probably, like, a huge pet peeve of yours is being called being called the wrong name.

[A]

No, you couldn't.

[C]

You did it again.

[B]

Okay, so we have Kessley knows a side of Brock Boston has never seen. 3, 2, 1.

[A]

I can't vote.

[B]

Oh, agree. Oh, I saw you change yours.

[C]

Wait, I'm trying to think.

[D]

I feel like I don't actually like boss.

[C]

Wait.

[E]

I thought it's just the romantic side, I guess.

[B]

Okay, yeah.

[E]

Cause, like, yeah, it's your brother, so I don't Know it's gonna hurt if he's not upside, but.

[B]

All right, there we go. You fight differently once you're married. Ooh, yeah. Like, you have different fights once you're married. I guess it's just for you guys.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You're not married. Sorry.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

I feel like we do just. Cause, like, we have to hash things out, communicate. We can't just, like, go to bed mad at each other and stuff.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

The stakes are higher.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Did you guys have. Was there ever, like, a. Like a. Not like a not good alteration you guys altered?

[D]

No, I. No, I think everything's been pretty good. Like. Like, we haven't had anything crazy. Most of our arguments, she would be, like, kind of getting mad, and then I would yell like, I'm mad, but I'm like, actually not mad. And then we just, like, laugh about it.

[C]

Rock is always fake mad, too. Yeah.

[B]

Wait, what?

[E]

Fakes mad?

[C]

Yeah, I'll call him. And then instead of like, saying, like, hello, or I'm like, what do you need? Yeah, just like, something like that. And I'm like, wait, what? Like, what's going on? Like, are you okay?

[D]

But, yeah, he just let me just laugh about it.

[C]

I know. I feel like I do that to.

[D]

You kind of a little bit, you know?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

So you rate you rage bait is what you're saying?

[E]

Yeah, he rage baits a lot.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Crazy. That's. Must keep your marriage fun, though, if.

[D]

You'Re like, yeah, I don't think we've been mad at each other, but, like, we don't ever get mad. Mad.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm coming up with this one on the spot, but I'm gonna read it like, I'm reading it off the sheet. Our twin relationship isn't the same now that one of us is married. Oh, disagree.

[C]

Yeah, I feel like it's, like, the same. Yeah.

[D]

But we just don't live at the same house together anymore.

[B]

So it's different then.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

What you're saying. Okay.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Relationships, like, normal.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That's sad. I mean, like, it. You know, I. I'm still close with my brothers, but there is a huge change, like, when you. When you get married, like, there's just so. Gosh, we're fundamentally different people. And even in our own marriage, like, we've been. This summer, will be seven years married, and we are so different than how we started off.

[C]

Off.

[D]

That's awesome.

[A]

You know, but your relationship can stay the same when you, like, both people change.

[B]

Yeah. But, like, it changes, and I think. I think it is a Good thing, though.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So maybe if it hasn't, like, maybe, and maybe I'm wrong, maybe it'll never change for you guys, but I feel like it will. And I feel like it'll be, it'll be interesting for you to see how that evolves.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. I'm curious to see, like, what's going to happen after Boston goes out on his mission and then when he gets married and stuff. Like, hell, that will, will kind of pan out. That will be crazy.

[A]

But double dates then.

[B]

You asked this question because I feel weird reading that one.

[A]

No, don't do it.

[D]

What?

[A]

Don't do it.

[B]

No, don't do it.

[A]

Who wrote these?

[D]

What?

[B]

Our producer. She said the wedding night isn't what it's cracked up to be.

[E]

Don't do it.

[B]

If that's too much, you guys don't have to answer that. We can cut that out. We said.

[D]

That's like, some people hype it up, like, oh, it's crazy, but it's like, it's, it's just chill, like.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, I know.

[B]

That's awesome.

[D]

What would you guys say about it?

[B]

Great. I love how you turn that around on us. No, I, I would, I would actually say agree.

[A]

Wait, what is it? Wait, what's the question?

[C]

Like, people over hype.

[A]

Like, it's isn't cracked up. Wait, it is.

[B]

I would, I would say agree. I, I, I said the wedding night isn't what it's cracked up to be. And I would say, I would say agree. And you say, oh, you say disagree.

[A]

I thought a great time.

[B]

So free. Oh, you had a great time? I mean, I had a great time, too. I just feel like, like your entire life growing up, you're like, wow. And just like, this will be the most crazy, like, and it's amazing for me. Okay.

[A]

My memory is fading. I don't know.

[B]

And then, and then final agree to disagree question we have is, wow, we're really setting it here. Waiting till marriage is totally worth it.

[D]

Oh, yeah, I agree.

[B]

Yeah, Agree. Oh, that's sweet. Why do you guys say that?

[D]

I would say it's like, just like, it's such a special moment. Moment where you can have with your spouse and stuff. I don't think. Yeah, I think it's just, it's like a way to connect. That's only you two together.

[E]

Yeah, I, I, Something that helped me, like, you know, to save myself was just knowing that, like, I, that's like the best gift I could give my husband is, you know, like a clean and pure body. And I would hope he did the same. But I, I think, I agree. I think it's a very special thing.

[D]

Yeah, it's a connection like that you won't have anywhere else with anyone else.

[B]

You know, we got married young, too, 21 and 20 when we got married, so, yeah, it's the best. And your future is bright and so. And so is yours. Boston. So excited for you and going on, that's. So you're gonna come back, staying like, hey, you're gonna be like, yes. Yeah. Well, you guys, this was so much fun chatting with you all. All, thank you again for coming on the show. Where's the best place for people to connect with you and, like, support you guys?

[C]

You can find us on Instagram, social media.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Tik tok, Instagram, YouTube, all platforms.

[D]

It's either Brock and Kesley or Brock and Boston.

[B]

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