The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Episode: Brock, Boston & Kesley on Mormon Taboos, Surviving a Plane Crash, and Waiting til Marriage

Date: February 18, 2026

Episode Overview

In this honest, playful, and deeply insightful episode, Matt & Abby sit down with viral twin creators Brock and Boston, alongside Brock’s new wife, Kesley. The discussion delves into their unique experiences as young, faith-driven content creators, navigating public relationships, expectations of Utah and Mormon culture, surviving a traumatic plane crash, and negotiating the boundaries of faith traditions around dating, missions, and marriage. The episode balances lighthearted banter, vulnerable storytelling, and thoughtful unpacking of misconceptions, making it engaging for both long-time fans and newcomers.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Utah/Mormon Culture & Misconceptions

[03:29–17:14, 19:01–22:30]

• Utah Slang & Stereotypes:

  • The group jokes about local Utah “swear words” like “frick” and “fetch,” using these as an entry point to discuss cultural quirks and how their upbringing shaped them.

    "Frick is my favorite one." – Matt [03:38]
    "Are you fetchin' kidding me?" – Boston [03:54]

• Living in Tennessee vs. Utah:

  • Brock and Boston share what it’s like moving between states, differences in pace, and how Tennessee’s slower, farm-based lifestyle contrasts with the suburban, friend-centric Utah life.

    "Tennessee, we have some land. And then Utah, we live in the suburbs... We have Swig too." – Brock [05:37]

• Public Misconceptions about LDS (Mormon) Faith:

  • Kesley clarifies common misunderstandings, especially the focus on Jesus Christ, not Mormon or Joseph Smith.

    "People think we worship Mormon or Joseph Smith... but in reality, it always comes back to Jesus Christ." – Kesley [16:39]

• Coffee, ‘Word of Wisdom,’ and LDS Health Code:

  • The group addresses why Latter-Day Saints avoid coffee, discussing both doctrinal and personal perspectives.

    "In our church, we believe that we have just prophets here on earth today... one of [the commandments] was to not drink coffee." – Boston [19:35]

• Modern Prophets and Continuing Revelation:

  • The guests explain the LDS belief in ongoing revelation for contemporary guidance, including adapting to social media.

    "We still have modern day scripture coming out from our prophet today and... apostles." – Brock [22:10]

2. Family & Twin Dynamics

[23:27–26:59, 29:29–33:27]

• Twin Differences & Similarities:

  • The twins play off each other with ease, discussing how outsiders distinguish them ("He’s got more gray hairs..."), and how their close bond translated into years of being best friends as well as business partners.

    "Our voices can sound the same. Yeah, but they sound different." – Kesley [24:26]

    • Fun moment: Face ID works for both brothers’ iPhones [80:21].

• Romantic History & Public Relationships:

  • Brock and Kesley's story started with a chance meeting and led to public collaboration on YouTube and eventual dating. They reflect on going on a break, having their reunion exposed on TikTok, and the challenges of a teenage public relationship.

    "We went out in public, and it's just a girl saw us, and [posted] 'they're back together.' Tens of thousands of likes." – Brock [32:47]

• Close Family Relationships:

  • All three guests credit their parents’ trust and open communication for their strong relationships as adults.

    "They weren't super strict. They had a lot of trust in me... I didn't want to lose my parents' trust." – Kesley [33:56]

3. Marriage/Mormon Dating Culture

[36:17–41:03, 84:41–87:34]

• Young Marriages:

  • 21 and 22-year-old newlyweds, Brock and Kesley, describe the openness of their families to young marriage due to both personal values and Utah cultural norms.

    "They wanted to help us out. They also got married at like 18." – Brock [36:50] "We're actually very late [getting married] for the Utah timeline." – Kesley [37:13]

• Waiting Till Marriage:

  • Addressing pressure, they affirm their choice and the meaning it holds for them.

    "That's the best gift I could give my husband...a clean and pure body." – Kesley [87:13] "It's a connection that you won't have anywhere else with anyone else." – Brock [87:34]

• Transitioning to Marriage:

  • They reflect on smooth adjustment due to their long friendship, with small points of friction ("She’s getting better at putting the toilet paper on right" – Brock [39:42]) and lessons learned.

4. Surviving a Plane Crash: Trauma and Perspective

[41:03–54:16]

• Recounting the Crash:

  • At 16, Brock and Boston’s family, along with the pilot and his wife, survived a small plane crash in rural Utah—a rare feat. They narrate thoughts and prayers during the ordeal, the impact, blacking out, and regaining consciousness.

    "Literally seeing the ground, soon we were going down...I had all these different thoughts go through my mind." – Brock [45:06] "I was just saying a prayer. What else can you do?" – Boston [45:22] "We were some of the only survivors that summer." – Boston [41:52]

• Post-traumatic Aftermath:

  • The trauma set in later, with Brock experiencing anxiety on subsequent flights. They also reflect on the unlikely convergence of circumstances: an EMT on site, med kits, and proximity to help.

    "We would have been on the other side of the mountains and nobody would have seen us." – Boston [48:09]

• Life Perspectives:

  • Emerging from the crash left them deeply aware of life’s fragility and the importance of family.

    "It threw everything into perspective. Like, we shouldn’t take every day for granted… family's the most important." – Boston [53:53]

5. YouTube, Influence & Public Eye

[29:29–34:43, 62:39–64:44]

• Starting Young on YouTube:

  • The twins and Kesley reflect on how family channels shaped them, the weirdness of growing up with an audience, and negotiating boundaries between private and public life.

    "We were blogging in elementary." – Brock [30:06] "Was there ever a time...something got shared that you wanted private, that went public?" – Matt [31:56]

• Entrepreneurial Family:

  • They discuss their family’s entrepreneurial spirit—dad’s businesses, mom’s hair & zipper bedding company, and their own forays into home DIY before turning 18.

6. Missions: Rules, Challenges & Spiritual Growth

[07:11–16:39, 44:45–61:13]

• Rules & Sacrifices:

  • Both Brock and Kesley served missions (Brazil/Massachusetts for Brock, Montana for Kesley) and Boston is preparing for Vancouver, Canada. They outline the mission rules—limited family contact, no dating, media restrictions, and the emphasis on service.

    "We only could call our family once a week...they just recommended not to text or call them." – Kesley [10:48]

• Navigating Relationships:

  • They maintained their relationship through weekly calls, but gave themselves freedom in case life changed over the two years.

    "We'd both agreed...like, if things did change, it would be okay, 'cause two years is a long time." – Kesley [12:02]

• Social Impact of Missions:

  • Both twins describe the mission as a transformative experience, pushing them out of their comfort zones and, in Brock's case, overcoming social anxiety.

    "I feel like I kind of did break out of my shell on my mission." – Brock [58:35]

• Service vs. Proselytizing:

  • Depending on the mission area, some missionaries are limited to service (like helping people move) rather than proselytizing.

    "Some missions, they can only just do service...like, just help people out." – Kesley [60:54]

7. Rapid-Fire: Agree to Disagree (Game)

[77:32–87:34]
A light, playful segment where the group votes on controversial or fun statements:

• Tasting Coffee: Both Brock and Kesley admit to trying it once, feeling it’s more about discipline than the drink itself.

  "We're going to he double hockey sticks." – Boston, jokingly [78:26]

• Twin Telepathy: They believe they have it—backed up by being able to unlock each other’s phones with Face ID and having strikingly similar thoughts/outfits.

  "We say we have twin telepathy and we actually have rehearsed this in the past." – Boston [81:39]

• Marital Fights: Slightly different after marriage: "We have to hash things out, communicate, can't just go to bed mad." – Brock [83:42]

• Waiting Until Marriage: Both agree it was meaningful and worth it for their relationship.

  "I think that's the best gift I could give my husband...a clean and pure body." – Kesley [87:13]

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On surviving the plane crash:

  “I remember just, like, holding onto my seat, bracing for impact and then it was just black.” – Boston [42:44]

• On public relationships as teens:

  “We didn’t want to be in the public eye, like, that fast... but a girl saw us, and posted 'They’re back together!' Tens of thousands of likes.” – Brock [32:47]

• On misconceptions about Mormons:

  “People think we worship Mormon or Joseph Smith... but in reality, it always comes back to Jesus Christ.” – Kesley [16:39]

• On choosing adulthood fast:

  “They wanted to help us out... They also got married at like, 18.” – Brock [36:50]

• On relationship maturity:

  “We were sort of together, but also if things did change, it would be okay. Cause two years is, like, a long time.” – Kesley [12:02]

• On twin connection:

  “We've had weird experiences where we've, like, been talking about something and then the person would finish the sentence.” – Boston [79:53]

Timestamps for Significant Segments

• Utah Culture & Slang: 03:29–06:16
• Twin Differences & Family: 23:27–26:59
• YouTube Origin Stories: 29:29–31:22
• Plane Crash Story: 41:03–49:06
• Misconceptions about Mormonism: 16:39–22:30
• Missions: Spiritual Impact and Rules: 07:11–16:39, 44:45–61:13
• Agree to Disagree Game: 77:32–87:34

Final Thoughts

This episode offers an engaging blend of humor, vulnerability, and faith-driven reflection. The authenticity of the guests—especially in addressing difficult subjects like trauma, public scrutiny, and faith boundaries—makes it a compelling listen. The twins’ dynamic, the openness about Mormon taboos, and the practical discussions of love, trauma, and adulthood add valuable perspective, both for insiders in the culture and outsiders curious to understand.

Where to find the guests:

• Brock and Boston: @BrockAndBoston (Instagram, TikTok, YouTube)
• Brock and Kesley: @BrockAndKesley