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This episode is brought to you by 20th Century Studios New film Springsteen, Deliver Me From Nowhere, starring Golden Globe winner Jeremy Allen White and Academy Award nominee Jeremy Strong. Scott Cooper, the director of the Academy Award winning movie Crazy Heart, brings you the story of the most pivotal chapter in the life of an icon. Springsteen, Deliver Me from Nowhere Only in theaters October 24th. Get your tickets now. Okay. Should we just go ahead and tell everybody the news?
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Let's do it.
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We're having baby number three. Crazy.
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I know. Crazy, not. I feel like this experience versus, like, finding out we were pregnant with our second is literally the complete opposite side of the coin.
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Oh, yeah. We were genuinely so stoked when we read the positive pregnancy test. Yeah, it was. It was just like pure joy.
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Like, we love our second child. I feel like we've said this a million times, but I do know that a lot of you out there can relate. Like, having an unplanned pregnancy is like, every baby is a blessing, and we love him endlessly, and we cannot imagine our lives without our second. But it's a totally different experience in early pregnancy. Like, first finding out when you're, like, expecting it, planning for it, like, looking forward to it, and then just, like, completely feeling like you got the rug swiped from under you.
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How did you convince me to do this? How did this.
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That's a you question because I did say I was like, you have to be fully on board. As much as I'm on board, you also need to be on board for obvious reasons. You're the father of the child. I want you to also be ready for it, excited for it, even. So I don't know what got me to change your mind.
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No, I honestly think it goes back to the holidays. We were with family around Christmas, Thanksgiving, that whole holiday season, and I was just looking around and realized how valuable family is. And even though the newborn stage can be tough, I was like, wait a minute. We could potentially have, like, this really big, lively, fun, joyful family. And that was kind of like, I think the first time that I actually genuinely was thinking about trying for a third.
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I mean, that's when the conversation started.
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Yeah.
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And I remember that, like, Thanksgiving, Christmas time last year, and the conversation started, and then we just kept talking about it for months and months.
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Yeah, well, I mean, I think I. I want to say I brought it up to you at the start of the year, like, hey, what do you think about this? And then, like, a week later, you got your IUD out. No, we did have a pregnancy scare. Remember that? Yeah.
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We thought that there was maybe something still in my system before I got it removed. Because we knew that we were being very careful after we had it removed.
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But I was shocked. Like, I told you before we took that test. This was back in, like, what, February? March? I forget. But I told you before we took the test, hey, no matter what, this is going to be a great thing. But after we saw the negative, like, it said negative, we were like, okay.
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Well, because I didn't want another unplanned one.
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Yeah.
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And that would have been. You didn't describe it very well. For those wondering. Like, my period was late after getting my IUD removed because my hormones were just, like, still readjusting. But in our, like, paranoid brains, we thought that because we had intercourse the day before I got my IUD removed that there was a chance that something was, like, in my system and it, like, worked its way and, like. Which would have been fine and great and totally fine, but we would have also been surprised and caught with our pants down in a way.
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Which, by the way, we have friends that. That happened to.
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They.
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They had.
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Yeah.
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The relations literally the day before she got the IUD out, and boom, they got pregnant.
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That wasn't our story, though. Super.
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Yeah. Not our story.
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We were just paranoid that it could have happened because we knew of people that had happen. But, no, we were very careful the entire time. We had no id, and we're, like, just still talking about it.
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I thought it was so funny, though, because, I mean, I know you and your girlfriends at the gym, like, you guys, you know, you're always talking, you're always chatting.
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You always just act like, we're just friends at the gym. We are friends. Just friends.
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That's where you met your friends. But, like, you know, you go to the park with the kids, you ladies are chatting. And like, every time we'd hang out with the husbands and everyone together, it was so random. I don't know how this happened, but people would come up to me and say, hey, Matt, when you guys. When are you going for the third. I heard. I heard you guys are talking about that. Like, that was something that was brought up.
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And I have no.
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And I was like, I think my wife has something to do with.
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I have no idea what.
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You have no idea what you're. I'm talking. Oh, my gosh. But seriously, though, it is crazy how, like, two years ago, Abby and I truly were parenting on expert mode. Like, you know, if you ever play a video game and you can choose, like, the level we were on the Difficulty. Okay. It felt, it felt like it just. I. I just, I was calling my parents all the time, just saying thank you so much for doing this for me, because I have. I had no idea how hard this was.
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Yeah. You and your brother were only like 18 months apart.
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Yeah, we were close to. And something shifted, though. Like, I think when our son started going to the bathroom on his own, our 3 year old. I'm like, I feel like we're parenting on easy Mode. Like, we're changing half the diapers. We used to. We used to change.
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Yeah.
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Like, he can practically get himself dressed now and then when our kids play, like, they, they just play together. Like, I don't have to constantly entertain them 24 7, you know, it's like I can just play with them when I want to play with them. And it's genuinely fun. I don't have to, like, do literally every single little thing for them just to make sure that they're cared for, you know? And so kind of going from expert mode to easy mode was like, dude, let's send it. So, Abby, you can fill in the details here, but essentially you told me I want to get pregnant basically in the summertime. That way we. I have this baby before the summer of 2026.
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Well, yeah, I was like, it's either like around these months or a year from now because I have been very big pregnant in the summer twice. Like, we had a July baby and an August baby. And in Arizona, being like full term pregnant in the heat of July and August, it's just. It's very unpleasant.
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It's literally 114 degrees outside right now, you guys. And Yesterday it was 1. 113, 115. I forget what the temperature was yesterday.
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But yeah, and we also like to try to get away when it's like that hot, if we can. And so that's what we did this year. We were traveling a lot. I'm like, we can't do that if we're going to be having a baby. Which has happened to us two summers. Not this past summer or the summer before that, but the two before that, those were like, kind of miserable for me.
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Yeah.
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So I was like, it's either June or it's like literally next spring.
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I was taking a look at Abby's app that she has to track her period. It's called Clue. She's had it since she was in high school.
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And I noticed, yeah, it's not like a fertility tracker.
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It's not a fertility tracker, but it does give you a General guideline of, like, when the fertile window is.
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And also, is it fertile or fertile?
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I actually don't know if. Could someone let us know in the comments, please?
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Fertile. I don't know why you always say fertile.
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You know what? I probably let me just mispronounce that my entire life. I think I'm realizing.
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No, you might be right. But I just want to. I just want to check.
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I think fertile is the correct way. Let's hear the translation.
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Fertile.
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Wow. Rhymes with turtle.
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I think you probably said fertile. Our entire.
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I think I've always said fertile.
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Yeah. I never said anything, but now I.
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Was like, a lot of people might.
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Hear you say fertile, and I want to just step in here.
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Everyone's going to go make fun of me now. It's okay.
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Hey, no, just think about turtle. But fertile.
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I'm going to keep saying fertile.
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Okay, fine. We all know what you mean.
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Anyway, that window was June 6th through 12th and.
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Wow, you're giving them the data.
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Yeah, I literally have the date written down right here. I've got. Got the exact date. And let me just tell you guys, that was probably the best week of my entire life.
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Okay?
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I'm serious. Like, I felt like a king. And it just felt like with the first two.
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Why that you just so genuinely said that was the best week of my entire life.
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It was. It was great. It was a really great week. And I think it was just, like, we both knew what we were doing and we both were on, like, a mission, and we are, you know, fully aligned in that. It just felt, like, so in love. Yeah, we just felt so in love. Honestly. We just felt so in love. How.
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Like, that. All the time.
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I felt like it that week for sure. Like, it just was so.
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It was so good that week happened. And then I don't know what the timeline is between, like, after that and, like, when you find out. I think there's, like, about two weeks where you're kind of just like, what do we do here? And I feel like, remind me, was I. Like, I felt like I was having some symptoms, but you never know if you're just, like, imagining them because they're also very similar to period symptoms.
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And I want to say that you had one of the first symptoms that you had last time you're pregnant, which was aversions to, like, onion and aversions to just different foods. And you mentioned that to me, and I'm like, babe, I think. I think you're pregnant.
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When was that? I don't remember that.
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I want to Say, while we were in Disneyland, like, I want to say there was some smell that was just, like, giving you the ick.
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Oh, yeah. You might have been right about that.
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What was it? Was it. I feel like it's always onion. Was it onion?
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Yeah, maybe.
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Was it a certain food that you, like, didn't like?
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Whatever it was, it wasn't, like, strong enough to make me, like, necessarily feel confident that I was pregnant. But also, I was like, I don't like playing games of, like, taking pregnancy tests. Like, I just want to wait until, like, basically the day of my missed period.
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Yeah.
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Because I just don't want to ever just be staring at a test, like, wondering if there's a line or, like, just driving myself crazy. So we're just, like, waiting it out. And I don't think I had any strong symptoms before we took a test. Did we? Did I have any. Okay, maybe the smell thing.
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I think it was the smell. I want to say I noticed your boobs getting a little bit bigger. I want to say that maybe. I think I noticed some slight changes.
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Really?
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That early on, I want to say.
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I did in my soul, though, in my spirit. I did know that I was pregnant. Like, I just felt really, like. I felt like I was. And so I think it was one day before my periods when we took the test.
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Yeah.
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And I think it was, like, kind of you that were like. Like, I was just, like, feeling nervous about it and, like, kind of jittery. Like, I just want to know. But then also I'm like, I feel like I should wait until the day of the miss period. Like, you're just kind of, like, going back and forth, and then you're finally like. Like, we were just having such a good day, and we're like, let's just do it. And so. Well, you kind of were like, let's just take it.
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Yeah. And that day was June 24th at 3:32pm I literally have it written down exactly when it was. Yeah.
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Yeah. Because I think we're like, we can get away for just a minute and just like, just see and. Yeah, I was pretty confident that I was at that point.
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Yeah.
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And you were, too.
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Oh, so confident.
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I would have been really sad if it wasn't. Yeah, really sad, probably.
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I think I told you. I think I. I had a feeling that that would probably be how you'd react now that I'm thinking about this, because, like, in my head, if that wouldn't have been the one, I'd been like, oh, next time for sure. Like, I Don't know.
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Totally. I would have thought that too. But then I guess there's still like a little disappointment.
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Yeah. Sometimes in life I just, I, I tend to have like the, the glass half full mentality of like, everything's gonna work out, everything's gonna be okay, everything's gonna be good. So if that wouldn't have been the positive one, I, I just like, for whatever reason knew that it was going to be positive the next month. But. Yeah, I remember telling you, though, hey, if this isn't the one, it's okay. And, and we'll get them next time. And I love you and I care about you. And. Yeah, and we, and we took it and it said, it said pregnant.
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It's just like people, you can't anticipate how emotional this process is going to be until you're going through it. But like, it's just always, maybe not for every woman, but for most women that I talk to, like, it is just such an emotional process because it's just like, I don't know, there's just so much tied up in it. It feels like the stakes are so high. Like, you're like, I'm either finding out that I have our child, like, growing right now inside me, that we're gonna meet someday, or it's just like, it's not happening. And then like, why is it not happening? Or, you know, all these other things. So it is just an emotional time. But I also can say that, like, that day I felt so. I did feel really calm. For, given the, Given my situation.
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I also want to say I wanted to take the test together.
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Yeah.
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Because both times I took them independently.
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That's right. Wait, I didn't realize that. Yeah, you're right. So that I didn't even put that together. So that was the first you to.
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Look at the test first.
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Yes.
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Because I just was like this would be just like so fun and different than what we've done in the past because then like you get to tell me obviously one second later. But I don't know why. It was just kind of fun that you got to read the test first.
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Why is that just registering right now that the first two you did by yourself. Yeah, we did that together. That's so cool.
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Yeah, I wanted you there because it just made me feel calmer and like also like this time, like this time around, like we knew it's not like as, you know, mysterious as the first time or as like shocking as our second time was. Like, it just felt really calm and like meant to be and.
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Right.
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And I just wanted you to be there during it. And I also wanted you to be like about as equally a part of it as you could be by being the first to read the test. And obviously you told me right away you're like, you said you're pregnant or something like that.
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What'd you say? Yeah, I probably, I don't remember what I said, but I was, I was excited because leading up to this we kept, while we were trying, we kept asking Griffin, Griffin, do You want a brother or a sister? And every single time, without fail, Griffin has told us a sister.
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I know.
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Every single time. And I don't know why he, like, why specifically he decided that, like, I. I know our. Our youngest, Augie, is always drawn to older girls. He always wants to hang out with. There's like an 8 year old or 9 year old girl. He just wants to like for them to be his, like, mother him. Yeah. Honestly, be like the mother to him or. He's also kind of a flirt too. Like, anytime he sees older girls, he'll always just like, smile at them. Smile at them and interact with them. But yeah, Griffin's been telling the sister, and that was kind of fun to then see that. That test.
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Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, we don't know if it's a boy or a girl yet. We'll go into that later.
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We don't. Yeah, we'll get into that later. But I'm trying to think who were the. Who were the first people that we told? Do you remember who the first person was? It wasn't my parents because we wanted to tell them in person and we.
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I told my trainer at the gym because I didn't want to do anything.
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That's right. I think that was one of. That was definitely one of the first.
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Yeah. I told her like, the next day because I just didn't want to do anything that was unsafe.
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Yeah.
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Which, I mean, obviously that early on there's not many, like, modifications you need to do.
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Totally.
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But yeah, I did notice, like, the first big change I noticed in, like, my body was my heart rate immediately went up. And I felt that at the gym, like, my heart rate was already starting to just, like, climb and climb and climb. And so I just want. That's why I wanted to tell her because I was like, I just want to make sure that, like, I'm doing everything safe and healthy for the baby. Like, that's obviously my first priority by far. And so I just wanted her to know, just have eyes on it. Cause they are really well trained until I know what to do for, like, activity that's safe during each stage of pregnancy and even postpartum. So I was like, I just want her to know. So I, like, told her just, like, quietly. And then. Do you remember this?
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What?
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I was hanging out, like, on a mommy, like, toddler play date. And like, two of my, like, closest friends, they, like, knew that. They knew that there was a chance that I was pregnant.
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Oh. Cuz. Did you tell them that? We were trying.
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I told Them? Yeah.
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Okay.
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And so then they just, like, asked me. I just didn't say anything. And then they just, like, looked at me, and then they both started crying because they knew, like, how much, like, we were had been talking about this and, like, trying to decide what to do or, like, when's the right time? And so they were just, like, so stoked for me, which was really fun.
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That's really sweet.
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It was really sweet. But I was like, oh, I kind of spilled the beans twice now. Like, I gotta keep it in. So then who else did we tell?
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Well, I think since you had told them. That night we got together with our friends. We did a game night.
B
Oh, with their husbands.
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With your girlfriends and their husbands. And so I was pretending to get a picture with my friends Bennett and Maverick. And while we were taking the picture, I said, say, abby's pregnant. And then they. They freaked out.
B
They freaked out.
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They freaked out. They lost it. They were crying. They were so emotional.
B
No, they were. All of our friends have been so happy for us.
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They've been really happy.
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But at that point, we were, like, waiting for this shirt to come in because it was, like, our big plan to tell my parents, with this shirt, we'll put our second child in it. And it says middle child energy, which we've always joked that, like, Augie makes perfect sense when you think of that, when you realize that he's just a middle child.
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Yeah.
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And so it's just, like, a joke and, like, light hearted, but we're like, we need that shirt to come in. So they were waiting for that to arrive in the mail. And I think it was, like, coming, like, a week later after we found out, like, not too long. And so, like, the day that it came, I was like, we have to tell them right away. And so I was like, hey, mom, dad, come over here. I. You have to see what I think I got this. When I say I got this really funny thing for the kids or something.
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Yeah. You got to check out this shirt.
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They, like, open the Amazon package and they're like, what? No way. My mom acted like she knew.
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Yeah. I think with her, it was one of those things. Where do you think they were on to the US or is it just the fact that it's the third? So they're not as shocked? Like, with the first, they were very shocked. But by the time you're going for.
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A third, maybe that's it. Yeah, we usually very happy and excited, but I think that it's just, like, less shocking each time because it's like, we've already, like, yeah. Start our family. They know that that's like the most important thing to us.
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Yeah. And so, yeah, and then same thing. We. We, I think a couple days later went to our friend's house and my brother and sister in law were there, and we still hadn't told them. So we're like, what if we just tell them all at the same time and have Augie walk in in his Middle Child energy shirt and see who the first person is to figure it out? So we head inside their house for this.
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The only reason they thought something of it is because you were recording.
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Yeah.
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So it was like, why are you recording?
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Yeah. Caleb looked at me like, why the frick are you vlogging right now? Because, like, I. I used to vlog pretty much every day when we lived in Hawaii, but we never really vlogged. Like, yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't really like vlog that much anymore. So he's like, what's going on? And he looks at Augie's shirt and he's like, oh, my gosh. You're like, you're pregnant. Abby's pregnant. And he's freaking out. And they're like, what? How do you know? Like, it, what? And they eventually all see Augie's shirt, and that's when our friend goes, I'm pregnant too. So then there, everyone's like, I knew.
B
That there was a ch. I. Honestly, before we walked in there, I was like, I bet she's pregnant too. But I didn't say it because I was like, I don't know. I was just. I was just speculating.
A
And the fun thing too is like, our sister in law is pregnant, so all the women in this house are now pregnant at the same time together. And everyone's freaking out.
B
I know. It's so, so fun. I actually have so many friends that are pregnant. I obviously both my sister in laws are pregnant, but I almost, like, consider them just like they're in a whole different tier of their own. I actually want to be super aware of, like, them having their moment, you know, like having their babies and like, we celebrate them to the fullest and like, totally. That's really important to me. But then also it's just so special that we're gonna have all the babies close together. Because that's just fun and it's great. Like, I feel like they have just a stronger bond when they're really close. There's a really special bond if there is an age gap. But also like, I Love that they're gonna be in the same activities together, in the same stage of life together. Yeah, it's just really fun. And it's also just really fun for me, like community wise to raise my kids at the same time as them, like alongside them. And then you can help like ask questions like how many bottles are they taking a day? Or like things like that. You just feel like you can just. You're on par. Because even now I feel so, like we have a two year old. I feel so removed from that stage. Like when you're walking alongside someone with like babies that are very close in age, you feel just like, I don't know, there's just a bond and there's just a community element there that's really, really special.
A
A lot of our friends that are pregnant, you're probably, you guys are probably not aware of it because a lot of them are like not social media people that you guys would know. They're just our friends that we've met in our community at the gym, you know, neighbors. There's like this whole life that we have that exists offline. Even though we do share a lot on here, there's like a lot of that we don't share online. So it's a lot of those people and it's so much fun that we get to go through that and experience that with them. Because you guys are all going to have newborns at the same exact.
B
I can literally think of seven off the top of my head that are pregnant, but I think there's more.
A
Oh my God.
B
Seven close friends that are pregnant.
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And in addition to that, we have both of our sister in laws who are pregnant. So it's like all the sister in laws in our family are pregnant at the same time, which is amazing. That's so much.
B
But they're like about to have a baby.
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I know.
B
So we'll have, we'll let them get their bearings and then we'll just wait.
A
You both, you guys need to do another Sister in Law episode.
B
That'd be fun.
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The three of you.
B
I was thinking that that fun.
A
That would be fun. Do you think you should do it like before or after they deliver?
B
Well, we really gotta hurry because Addie's 39 weeks tomorrow.
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39 weeks tomorrow?
B
Yes.
A
Gosh. Yeah, that's gonna be.
B
I feel like we should just wait to let her get settled.
A
Yeah, she's like in the thick of it right now. I think we'll make an entire episode about this and you guys can probably submit questions to ask us about the first trimester. But it hasn't been easy for Abby. She's been sick, she's been very nauseous. But you haven't thrown up yet, right? You haven't thrown up somehow.
B
Honestly, it was kind of eerie for me, obviously. Like, yes, I've been nauseous, but you saying it's been really tough. I'm like, so I've been pregnant three times. This pregnancy is more different than the other two were in the sense that I haven't thrown up. I also haven't been like as nauseous, as craving, as aversiony. Like haven't had that, as emotional. Like I haven't had the, the peaks of those. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like everything has just been so much more mild.
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Yeah.
B
And the only thing that's been way more is I've been way more tired. So I don't know, I feel like some people are like, well then that means you might be having a girl. Cuz my other two are boys. And I'm like, I don't know about that because I have so many friends that have had the same gender, but their pregnancies were just drastically different both times.
A
Yeah.
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And like even your mom, she had all boys and she was like, I thought for sure my third was a girl because I felt so different. And so that's not like convincing me that like it's different, but it's just been, it's just been different. Like to have experience things differently and honestly gave me like paranoia, like anxiety. Fear was coming in because I never did like a pregnancy confirmation appointment. We were just traveling a lot and my doctor actually said it wasn't necessary. They're like, unless you have any concerns, then you can just wait until you're nine, 10 week appointment. I got to over seven weeks and I was still not having strong symptoms. I started to get really freaked out. Honestly. I was like, I really hope everything's okay. To the point where I've never done this with either one of my pregnancies. But I was like, I just kept taking pregnancy tests because I was like, even though I was like over seven weeks, like I was like, why do I just not feel pregnant? I think I asked you every day, like, do you think I'm pregnant? And you're like, yes, yes.
A
Well I saw, I mean, you weren't having quite the nausea that you had in the past.
B
Yeah.
A
But I noticed that your body was changing. I noticed that your appetite, I think had increased. And we had the positive pregnancy test. We had, you know, something that's over 99.9 period accurate. Yeah, you had no period and you were really, really worried about miscarriage.
B
I just felt so different.
A
I went and got some HCG tests because apparently those are what you can use to look at your HCG levels.
B
And let me tell you, taking those tests did not make me feel any less worried.
A
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B
How'd it go, Addie?
A
It went great.
B
It went good.
A
Yeah, it went great.
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It went great.
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You can even filter for doctors who take your insurance, who are located nearby and are a good fit for any medical need you may have and who are highly rated by verified patients. I feel like that's half the battle is trying to find someone that takes your insurance that meets your medical needs and is close by to you. Like the fact that this app filters all that for you and arranges it, that's like 50% of the battle.
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And it's so freaking convenient. You can even do your appointment while you're on a hike. I wouldn't recommend doing that, but I happened to be on a hike a couple of weeks ago and I realized, holy crap, I forgot about my zocdoc appointment. And yes, I took my appointment on a hike.
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Now that's multitasking. You can't do that on a regular doctor's office.
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It was a bad idea. I've never done that before because I have always just followed the mindset of like, don't be anxious, don't be stressed. Just like experience things as you experience them and like, just try not to be stressed. Stress is terrible for pregnancies and it's just, it doesn't like worrying about it does not change the outcome. So I've always thought, just take one pregnancy test and it's positive. Like, you know, but then stop, stop testing. But this point, I was, like, letting my worries get the best of me. So I'm taking these HCG tests and they were all coming out positive, but the line was kind of faint. Like, I would say it was even fainter than four weeks pregnant. And so that made my worry so much greater. I was really, really worried at this point. I was trying to stay calm, but I was just, like, texting my friends and, like, trying to figure out what this could mean. I'm googling. I'm like, on rabbit holes, like, online. And then something online said to, like, it said something about this, like, hook effect that can happen. Like, with your HCG levels, I'm getting so in the weeds. But the people that know what I'm talking about know what I'm talking about. So, like, there comes a point, I guess, where your HCG levels are get so high that, like, those strip tests.
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Don'T even show a line. You don't even see the line anymore. Are the lines really faint or.
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It's faint. And so they were saying you can know that this is happening if you dilute your urine and then take the test and if it's dark. And so, I mean, this is all tmi, but this whole process is. We're transparent here. I, like, dipped the strip into the toilet bowl, like, with all the water in it, and the line was very, very dark.
A
Yeah.
B
And so that gave me some peace of mind, but I was still concerned.
A
So we called up a pregnancy center on the island that.
B
Yeah. Cause you're in Hawaii at this point.
A
They, I guess just do, you know, these tests and they do ultrasounds for women for free. It's one of those not for profit pregnancy centers.
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And.
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And so we booked an appointment. But then when it came time for our appointment, we ended up finding out.
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That their ultrasound tech was.
A
Machine was. Oh, you didn't know it was the.
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Tech that was out for, like, a couple of weeks.
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Yes. And so we weren't able to get an ultrasound, which is what Abby wanted. To just make sure that baby was okay.
B
Yeah.
A
And so we ended up not going to the appointment because all they could do is give Abby another pregnancy test, which she'd already taken those. And they keep coming back positive.
B
And I just knew at this point I was like, my rational side, my brain was like, you are really, like, letting these fears become so much greater than they need to be. But then Also, there's that, like, mama bear side of you that's like, I just want to make sure my baby's okay. That's like panicking. And so, yeah, I mean, that was, like, a weird tailspin time because I was like, Abby, like, I almost didn't want to tell my friends. Like, I was worried about this because I was like, I know I'm being too paranoid, but, like, you know, you just hear so many things, and it is such a, like, fragile time, like, you know, in pregnancy. So I just, like, try to continue to stay calm. And then, honestly, it was like, a few days later when I was like, we need Taco Bell right now. Or, we need McDonald's, which has always been like, my early pregnancy cravings is just fast food. And I say pregnancy cravings lightly because it's really not a craving as much as it's an aversion to literally every other food except for, like, a Taco Bell Quesadilla or, like, a McDonald's McDouble, which I never eat those outside of pregnancy, but sometimes that's, like, all that sounds good. That's always been, like, my early craving. I keep seeing these videos. They're, like, something they don't tell you about the first trimester of pregnancy is that anything you cook at home tastes terrible. It's true. I've had that both times. I'm kind of getting out of that now.
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Obviously, Taco Bell was our go to.
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Yeah. Remember that night? I was, like, trying to get down one quesadilla. I was like, please. Because you said my appetite had gone up, but I feel like I wasn't really eating a ton at that point because nothing was really sounding good.
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Maybe at first, like, maybe. I mean, yeah, maybe at first you didn't have any of those aversions or nausea initially. So I think you were worried. You're our friend that told us they were pregnant at the same time as us. They were also confused why they weren't having any nausea.
B
Maybe it's something to do with a third, because it's her third as well.
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But, yeah, then you just start to.
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Get used to it.
A
But then a couple weeks later, you guys both were like, whoa, this is. Yeah, this is not fun.
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Yeah. I will also say this is the first pregnancy I've ever taken unisum and B6, which is, like, not a prescription nausea relief, but it's, like, a commonly used way to remedy nausea during, like, early pregnancy. And so that's also surely why I wasn't experiencing as, like, I think it really does work. I obviously am still nauseous, but it's not like what it has been the other time.
A
Maybe that's partially why you've been more tired too. Because I know the unison knock you out. Like I'm actually thinking about stopping taking.
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That because I am so freaking tired and I slept like 10 hours last night.
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Is it better though than being nauseous? Like, would you choose being tired over not being nauseous?
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I would choose being tired over being nauseous for sure. But today as I was driving, I literally felt like it was like kind of not safe.
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Yeah.
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Like I was kind of like, do I need to pull over and like slap myself? Like.
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Well, you're a little. You're a little lady. Like you know, there's.
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Well, that's why I usually take half.
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Those over the counter drugs affect you more than someone like me because I'm. I'm twice your size. You know, like it is crazy. I think one time. Well, actually no. One time Abby rear ended her parents car because she took it. Take it a unison or something. The night cold, nighttime cold aid. And it was like you were on drugs leaving the house and you. And you said you could hear the beeping of.
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Heard the beeping literally wasn't registering in my brain. Like the car is beeping because you are literally about to hit another vehicle.
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You just kept driving.
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I mean they weren't in the car. They were. It was. I literally hit a parked car. That was not my finest moment. I think we really kind of got the gist of it all.
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Yeah.
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My main symptom is I would say rest changes definitely swell and get very, very tender. That's been my main symptom with my other two pregnancies as well. Some people don't have any changes in that area. It's like my body's first response. They're like, we need to do this right now. We gotta triple the size.
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And well, and too like you already. You have the cutest little bump right now. Because I think your body is just like in. It's like it's go time. It's game time.
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That's what they say.
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It's game time.
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Say with like consent, like more pregnancies you've had, the sooner your bump appears.
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Yeah, super.
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That's been the case.
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Super teeny, super tiny. But I love it. Like it's so. It's just like a little tiny little pooch. And there's a little strawberry sized baby in there right now.
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I know it does taste strawberry.
A
Yeah.
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And a couple days it says lime.
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A lime. I didn't know that.
B
That feels a little bit dramatic.
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Yeah.
B
Sometimes I think these apps are a little bit generous.
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What do you mean?
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Like, I don't really believe that it's.
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That there's a lime sized baby inside your belly.
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Yeah. But it's just, like, cute to have a fruit. You can always compare it to.
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Yeah.
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We should show somewhat accurate.
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You know what'd be really cute is if we show the fruit like those fruits to our boys to help them understand baby's growing in your belly. Because Griffin's been giving Abby kisses on her belly. He's been saying, like, didn't he say, like, I love you to the baby or something? Or he just.
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Well, every night we'll sit with Griffin and we'll like, say, like, something. Say something you're grateful for. Yeah, he says, I'm grateful for the. He said, I'm grateful for the baby was sweet. Because I think you've said that some nights. And so then he said it. But it was still really sweet that he said it on his own.
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He tries. He, you know, copies me.
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Sometimes I wonder if my bump is actually baby or if I'm just like. It's a result of being so constipated.
A
No, be constipated.
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Yeah, and like, bloated.
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I didn't realize that you were. I know you had like, one day where you feeling. You were feeling constipation. I didn't realize that constipation was like a daily thing.
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Dude, I used to go number two every day.
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Oh, yeah, you're right. You told me you. You had like five days of.
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I'm like once or twice a week now.
A
Wow. I didn't realize that. I thought that was a one time thing. Could you tell me that you went five days without going.
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Oh, yeah, that keeps happening.
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We need to get you on some fiber one bars. I used to eat those when I was in high school. I could not get off the toilet. Man, those are.
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Why would you eat those in high school?
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I think my mom was buying them from Costco and they just tasted really good.
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Well, here's another thing. It's a double one. It's a double whammy because I've been only eating carbs and, like, no fruits or vegetables, which is like, the fiber I need.
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Oh, yeah.
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But then also the pregnancy and also, like, I've heard that prenatals can also constipate you. I don't know, but we don't need to dwell on that. But that's just another unflattering thing. Also, let me just tell you, bumps get less cute the more pregnancies you have.
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I disagree. I think you're both really.
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Because I just feel like I have, like, I already have this, like, stretched out belly skin that's not as, like, firm and, like, there's, like, stretch marks on it now.
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So I think you look really cute. I think. No, seriously, like, every time I look at you, I'm like, holy cow. It's just. It's beautiful what's happening. Like, you growing a baby and just seeing the way that your body's changing to accommodate that baby is. It's really cool. That's. It's. It's special. Very special.
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I wanted to say this, that, like, I think the reason I also was having, like, those nerves, but also the peace before we, like, took the test to find out about baby number three is that I'm, like, actually gonna get emotional saying this. Is that now, like, obviously the first time is so exciting, but now we know how much joy and purpose another little blessing brings us. Like, and we also just know. I mean, we just. Now we know just the depth of how great it is to, like, be given the responsibility to parent another child. That it almost feels like seeing that positive test, like, now a third time is just. It's just the impact is even deeper.
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Yeah.
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Wouldn't you agree?
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Oh, a hundred percent.
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Like, there's not this, like, jittery excitement, but there's just this deep anticipation, like, and just it. I feel different seeing that positive test this time around, but I feel like it's even more joyful, even more exciting, because I just know how much I'm gonna love this little baby.
A
There's been a viral clip going around from the actor that plays Saul and Better Call Saul, and in this podcast, he says that he is jealous of people.
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He was asked, he's like, who are you jealous of right now?
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Yeah. Somebody asked him who he's jealous of, and he said that he's jealous of people that still have little kids in the house. And it just kind of hit me, like, how special this time really is because it doesn't last forever. It's the most cliche thing you could freaking say is, you know, they grow up so fast. But it's true. And so, you know, having another baby on the way, it's so exciting because we know that we get to do everything we're doing right now all over.
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Again, and we just get to add them to, like, this puzzle of our family. And like, oh, it's just. Like, you're just. It feels like your heart expands even greater. And I just think about. I can't even describe. Like, it's just a. It's just your heart is literally ripping open because it's growing bigger to just fit all your little precious blessings. It's so mushy, gushy, but it's literally so true. That's exactly how I feel that, like, I don't feel the same, but I feel even more excited this time around. Like, now I just. I just know how awesome it is. I know how incredible being given this blessing of this responsibility is. And so. Yeah. And then also leading into that, like, I can say I genuinely have no gender preference for this child. Like, I would not experience. I'm not saying anyone that experiences gender disappointment, like, I think that's totally valid. I don't think that they're a bad parent. I don't, like. I don't think any. There's no judgment on that. But from the place that I'm at, I literally feel completely neutral. It's been on my mind recently as I've been listening to a romance audiobook. The type of people that like romance are generally women, I would say.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But then also, like, is it women in relationships or is it women that are single that like it more? Or is it women that are, like, in lonely relationships or good relationships? I don't know. I feel like across the board, women just love romance.
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Here's the thing. I wonder, do more women or men listen to audiobooks in general? Because, like, my brother and I will listen to audiobooks while we're working out or doing some sort of physical activity. But your mom is the one that introduced me to Audible, so I don't know.
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Wow.
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I'm gonna put my own personal recommendation in there. I would say Carly Fortune. Check out her new release this summer. Get it on your Audible. Your first great love story is free when you sign up for a free 30 day trial@Audible.com unplanned. And I don't know, like, it's. What do you think? I feel like we keep saying boy because we have two boys, and it's just so easy to picture a third little boy coming alongside. Like, I have a very clear image of what that would look like.
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Yeah. I'm in the same boat as you. I really don't have a preference. I partially want a girl for you because I think you would love to have your little girl. I know yesterday we were somewhere where there were some kids. Oh, we went to an ice cream shop. Our friends just opened up an ice cream shop, and they came in in their dance attire. And you. Your heart just, like, melted because you thought back to when you were a little girl going to dance class. And I think that'd be fun. Right? Like, I also took ballet. Like, I could literally teach our daughter how to do pirouettes and, you know, fouettes. My fuetes suck. But, like, you know, or, like, switch leaps. Like, I. I grew up taking dance, and, like, who knows if Griffin and Augie are going to want to do any dance? But, like, it's. It would be fun to have a little girl, and there's so much fun to be had.
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Yeah. I don't. I just don't have an image for what that would look like, you know? So then I'm like, why does it feel kind of intimidating to have a girl? I think it's because we're just so. We're so used to the boy world, but it would be, like, such a new and exciting thing.
A
Yeah. We have been throwing around the idea of waiting till the actual birth to find out the gender, but I quite honestly don't think that we would be able to do that. Like, I think one of us would just have to find out, you know?
B
Yeah. Well, you were like, we've never done. We've just always opted out of genetic testing, like, the early blood testing. But then I feel like you. It's bothering you that we could know right now.
A
Yeah, we honestly could. I kind of. Why do I want to know?
B
Like, more antsy than I would have thought.
A
Why do I want to know for myself?
B
You can find out, and then, like.
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We just don't tell anybody, and we just know ourselves.
B
No, no, no. I like to find out at, like, 20 weeks. Okay. I would be down to waiting till birth. But I also think, like, for Griffin and Augie it's easier for them to, like, they already know, like, our niece hasn't been born yet, but they know that her name is Brielle, and they know that she's coming and that she's a little girl, and, like, her name is Brielle. And I just feel like that helps them have, like, an image of, like, what to expect. Because I feel like pregnancy can be so, like, elusive to little kids.
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Totally.
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Especially at this young toddler age that I feel like if we weren't able to be, like, you're gonna have another brother or sis or a sister, and they're gonna be. We're gonna call them this. Like, they're in here. I feel like it just helps them wrap their mind around the transition a little bit more. Obviously, it's not necessary, but I do think it's easier for them to kind of, like, enter that transition knowing if it's a brother or sister and what their name is and, like, kind of picture it more. It gives them. It makes them feel more human.
A
I know my dad would love to have a granddaughter, and I think he was hoping that one of me and my brothers were going to be a girl.
B
He did. He was really hoping one of you guys.
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That didn't happen. But telling my parents is fun. My parents actually had no idea they were my parents. I had been pretty open about being content with two because I was like, I'm so happy with two.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And they kind of thought that we might be done. And so when we shared with them we were pregnant, they could not believe it. They live in St. Louis. So we flew all the way from Phoenix to St. Louis to tell them. And it worked out because I have a lot of family in St. Louis that we were able to tell while you're there. Like, my. My grandma. My aunt.
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My grandma.
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Yeah. Abby's grandma.
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Your cousin.
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Oh, yeah. Mike. Yeah. So there was just a lot of people to tell.
B
We also just wanted to tell all of our family. Just.
A
Just.
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I think that's just a respectful thing to do before you, like, share online.
A
Yeah, it was. It was fun, too, because Griffin actually shared the news with my parents. He told them that there was a baby in Abby's belly, and they were like, wait, did. Did I just hear what I thought he said?
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And we told him to do it.
A
Yeah. Everybody freaked out.
B
He didn't exactly follow the plan.
A
I had to kind of, like, tell him word for word what to say.
B
It's fine.
A
Who cracked me up, though? Your grandma. Like, for whatever reason was Expecting us to be pregnant with baby number three. Like, her reaction kind of shocked me.
B
You can't pull a fast one on that lady.
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You can't. Vicki is. She knows, man, she's on top of it. She really is.
B
My prediction as of right now is boy, but it is the least confident prediction I've had of the three. The strongest reason I think it might be a girl is because my mom thinks it's a boy and she's been wrong every single time.
A
Your mom is always wrong.
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What are the odds that this is the one time she's right? You know what I mean?
A
That would be weird. Yeah, I kind of just.
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That's my main. And she thinks it's a boy. So then I'm like, that's my strongest indicator that we're having a girl. But okay. By the way, we talked about like the method of like how you can try for a girl specifically.
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We didn't do that method.
B
We didn't do that method. So.
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So for anybody that's like, oh, you're gonna have a girl, cuz you did that method. We didn't do the method.
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So I mean, it could still work even if we're having a boy. We just didn't do it. So I don't know. Our friends that are pregnant right now, they have two boys, they just found out that they're expecting their girl. They did the method. They're another people, another couple.
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Yep.
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So I mean, if it's really important to you to have a girl, then I would say try it. Look into it.
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The shadow method. Look it up. Make sure you follow me.
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Do that. So don't.
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This is not health advice. We are not doctors. We are just tiktokers who blew up by doing TikTok dances on Tick tock.
B
Anyway, so yeah, I don't really know what to expect. I think we'll probably find out around like halfway mark. I think that's a really good checkpoint for me. Like get to 20 weeks, find out and then prepare.
A
I don't know if I can wait that long.
B
You want to do the blood test.
A
They have to draw your blood.
B
Yeah. It's not a big deal.
A
Oh my gosh. They already did draw your blood. You were.
B
I get what?
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Every time we go a champ when they did that, by the way. So tough.
B
I've had two babies.
A
Yeah, that's true. That's. Having a baby is way more.
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Giving blood is not a problem.
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Yeah.
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I don't have a phobia of it. Some people like, said that their worst Part of delivery was the iv.
A
Oh, yeah.
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And I'm like, no, I don't have a phobia of needles though, which is true. It's kind of weird that that needle has to stay in you for so long. I'm just so excited.
A
Yeah, I'm excited.
B
I feel like it's like going to be such a good time of year because it's not going to be piping hot.
A
Yep.
B
We'll be able to go on walks. We've also just like talked about how many. How much we want to do differently this time around. Just because you learn more about yourselves, you learn more about like, what the experience. Experience is actually, like, you learn more what to predict, like, as far as like what birth and postpartum and breastfeeding, like, all those things are going to look like. Obviously, babies love to throw you a curveball. You never know. Every birth is different, but you kind of just have more of like an idea of what to expect. And so we've talked about how many things, like, we want to do differently this time around, what things we want to do the same. And I just feel like there's a different, like, level of confidence that I feel this time around. But also I just know that life wants to humble you all the time. So I can't get too comfortable. But yeah, this has been pretty good pregnancy so far.
A
Yeah.
B
It doesn't even feel real still.
A
I know you're. You've been so tough. You've been, you've been like. No, just you have. You've been a warrior throughout.
B
That's not true. You guys. Matt has done the bedtime routine for the kids pretty much every single night. I was asleep before. The kids were asleep last night on the couch while you're putting them to bed.
A
Wait, you're right. Actually, I didn't realize that.
B
Yeah, you fell before the unison.
A
Wait, you're right. You're right. That's so funny. What's up with our kids wake up at 5:30 by. Oh my God.
B
We need to fix traveling with them too much.
A
Yeah, we. After coming back from St. Louis to tell my parents that we're pregnant, our kids have now been waking up at 5:30.
B
Well, he was up before that. Matt. He was up at like five.
A
Guys, like, please just sleep. Just sleep till. Can we do 6:30? Like, is that too much?
B
Well, I'm gonna start doing the red light. Green light. Yeah, they can't come out until it's a green light.
A
Yeah. We just bought some blackout curtains courtesy of Abby. Blackout curtains that we will be putting up. And we have this, like, one little window, though, that is, like, random in our skylight, basically. Yeah. It's like a scout. So we need to cover that up too.
B
We need to get a bigger car.
A
We do.
B
We don't have a vehicle with a third row.
A
Let us know your recommendations for a three row vehicle. We will be in the market for one very soon.
B
Oh, my gosh. I was really just thinking of something that sounds so good right now.
A
What? What sounds good?
B
Those pretzel rolls at Culinary Dropout with the provolone dip.
A
That sounds good.
B
And their chopped chicken salad with the deviled eggs.
A
Oh, do you need to get that? Should we get that for you tonight?
B
No, I should eat my food at home.
A
If you want. Hey, you want it, you got it. Let's make it happen.
B
So good. But, yeah. I just feel so grateful. I feel so thankful. I feel so excited. I feel so happy. I'm just like, every day I'm like, I can't complain. And I just have this, like, exciting little.
A
How crazy is it?
B
And the best person to raise babies.
A
Oh, yes. If you guys have been with us since. I mean. Yeah. I feel so lucky to have you. You're the best mom. If you guys have been with us since Hawaii, thank you for being here. Or even if you've been here since we lived in our apartment in Springfield, Missouri.
B
That's crazy.
A
That is even cooler. But it's just crazy that it's been. Gosh, it's been five years of being on social media in a big way. I mean, I guess we started six years ago, but it kind of took off five years ago during COVID And so just to have you all here along for this journey of life is crazy. And we love, like, running into you guys in person. We love getting to chat with each and every one of you whenever we're, like, out at the grocery store or at Disney World or whatever.
B
The train park.
A
Yeah, the train park. Did someone say hi to you at the train park today?
B
About the train?
A
That's so sweet. I love that.
B
And if you're also pregnant at the same time, to comment down below, comment down below. Join like, a little community. Because pregnancy can be a really lonely, like, isolating time. You're like, I'm the one person going through this. And, like, it's really nice to have other people around you that also can relate into just, I don't know, make you feel not crazy even just makes me feel better when I see, like, these. I show Matt, like, these Funny videos. I've been getting all the first trimester reels recommended to me.
A
Yeah.
B
And it's like that video that was like, when my husband brings my food and you're like, no longer craving it, and it's like, where's my drink? My diet Dr. Kelp? Like that, like, I don't know, all these, like, funny videos about first trimester cravings and, like, being so tired. But then also shout out to Matt. I. I tell you often, but I just think, like, like, obviously you're the parent to our kids. You're their father. Like, you do stuff for them always. But you've done so much, like, more than your share recently. Because I've just been, like, checked out every night time. Like, you've done the nighttime routine every single night. You do the morning shift. You just, you. You just like, doing double time for me, which I really appreciate.
A
Well, no, I, like you said I'm their dad, so, like, that is literally my job, but thank you. And then also, it's just so much fun. Like.
B
No, I know you enjoy it, but still, I know, like, at times you're probably like, man, I feel like a single dad right now.
A
Well, I, you know, I kind of see the appeal of people that are stay at home dads because, for instance, today, going to the gym, we went to the gym as a family. The boys specifically wanted me to carry both of them inside. And like, that's never happened before. You know, like, usually at least one of our boys is wanting mama.
B
That's true.
A
Usually one of them wants to prefer you.
B
They're like, mom's checked out right now.
A
I've spent so much time with them that they just, like, they were fighting over who. Who dad was gonna hold. So I held both. Both of them?
B
Yeah.
A
And it just kind of was cool because that's true, you know, like, they've always been such a fan of their mom because they have the best mom and you're so good to them.
B
But she's sleepy now.
A
The extra quality time with them has been amazing. So it's been a blessing for me too. And I feel, it's. I feel like it's made my life more fulfilling and.
B
Well, you're always, like, super active with them, but, like, obviously now it's like you've been doing. Spending way more time with the kids than I have, so.
A
Well, truly, I mean, I was asleep.
B
Before they were asleep last night, if that tells you anything.
A
I mean, it's been so freaking hot in Arizona, but the pool man, like, I go I swim with them in.
B
The pool every day in the pool square.
A
Griffin's going to be the next Michael Phelps. Cuz that kid is doing laps all. I'm like, you're. Dude, you're three. Like you're not, you're not supposed to be able to swim that good at three. But he's so good at swimming. But yeah, I'm a proud papa.
B
Proud papa.
A
Yeah.
B
We've been brainstorming baby names and I feel like we have a more. We have a more established boy name than a girl name, I would say.
A
Really? Okay. Because the girl name that you told me when we were dating is the one that I was thinking that we could potentially use.
B
I still think I, I'm like, I still like that one, but I just feel like I. And more firm on the boy name. Which is weird because we've already used two boy names.
A
We're just gonna throw away all the names that we decided on in high school while we were naming our children.
B
It's kind of how it goes usually. Wow.
A
Can't believe that.
B
No. We might use our girl name from when we were in high school. You never know.
A
We could.
B
That would be kind of sweet. It's like we literally have thought of your name since you were in high school or since we were in high school.
A
We were 17 and 18.
B
But you know my hang up with that name.
A
I do know you're hanging up with that name.
B
But yeah, we'll figure it out.
A
Well, yeah, we will.
B
There's no reason to get serious about it at 10 weeks pregnant party.
A
Like with our close friends and family have been telling people the names that we're thinking of, which I think is, which is risky, you know, because if you tell people the name then they.
B
Can tell you they don't like it.
A
Get prepared to get your feelings hurt because someone could say something hurtful.
B
I think it's also different than the way that you say it. Like I'll start family is very good about that. You also have to know who you're saying it to. I don't think our family's gonna say something that that is like rude or like don't do use that name. But we're like, if it's a boy, we are liking this name. If it's a girl, we're liking this name. Rather than like, what do you think about this name? Cuz we like it. Like that's kind of just like opening the door for feedback if you don't want it. But maybe you do want feedback. I don't know, I also do think that, like, there's a certain element of, like, telling other people. By the time it's your third, it's like, a little bit more casual.
A
Right.
B
I can't believe we're here. At this point now, it just feels like, oh, my gosh, we had to wait so long. But hopefully this flies by.
A
Yep. Well, you guys, thank you for being here. This was a fun little chat. And we will see you in the next episode. This is. This has been fun.
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Release Date: August 20, 2025
In this heartfelt and candid episode, Matt and Abby share the story of finding out they’re expecting baby number three. The episode navigates their emotional journey—from the very first conversations, through the decision to try, early pregnancy symptoms, taking the test together, and the joy (and anxiety) of telling their family and friends. Sprinkled with humor, vulnerability, and relatable real-life details, the conversation provides insight into planning for another child after both unplanned and planned pregnancies—and the unique experience of sharing that news with loved ones.
Contrast with Previous Pregnancies & Planning
Deciding on Timing
The Waiting and Anxiety
Emotional Impact
Telling Friends and Family
Community of Expectant Friends and Family
Abby reports markedly different symptoms than her previous pregnancies—less nausea, more fatigue, leading to some anxiety about whether “everything was okay.”
Matt has been picking up more of the parenting load, especially at night, due to Abby’s exhaustion—an experience with both silver linings (closer bonding with sons) and challenges. (47:09–51:50)
| Timestamp | Segment / Topic | |---------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:33 | Matt & Abby announce Baby #3 | | 01:42 | Holidays spark the conversation to try for a third | | 05:39 | Abby on timing the pregnancy to avoid AZ summer | | 07:38 | Matt, joking: “That was probably the best week of my entire life” | | 10:20–10:30 | Taking the pregnancy test together for the first time | | 14:04 | Abby on testing together and emotional impact | | 16:06–17:37 | Telling close friends and experiencing their excitement | | 18:14–19:03 | The “Middle Child Energy” shirt family reveal | | 19:52–20:23 | Group announcement with friends (two family pregnancy reveals!) | | 21:49 | Abby on the importance of pregnant community/friends | | 23:12–28:23 | Abby’s symptom anxiety & HCG “hook effect” explained | | 31:16 | Unisom & B6 use for nausea, fatigue’s impact | | 38:36–39:00 | On gender preference: “I literally feel completely neutral…” | | 43:01 | Telling Matt’s unsuspecting parents in St. Louis | | 47:09–51:50 | Matt supporting parenting routines, Abby’s fatigue | | 52:13–53:52 | Baby name brainstorming & family dynamics |
The tone remains characteristically warm, humorous, and intimate—Matt and Abby’s vulnerability shines as they share their fears, excitement, and gratitude. The interplay between their personalities—Matt’s easy optimism, Abby’s thoughtful reflection, and both their playful humor—makes for an engaging listen:
Matt and Abby celebrate this new chapter with honesty and relatability, providing both practical insight and emotional support for listeners who may be navigating similar stages. Community, intentionality, and mutual support are dominant themes, making this episode both informative and encouraging for fans and new parents alike.
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