Getting a hair transplant, surgery recovery & pregnancy updates

Summary

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The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Episode: Getting a hair transplant, surgery recovery & pregnancy updates
Release Date: September 24, 2025

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Brief Overview

In this lively and candid episode, Matt and Abby open up about Matt’s recent hair transplant journey to Turkey, his recovery process, and provide heartfelt updates on Abby’s pregnancy. True to their style, the couple blends vulnerability, humor, and practical life insights about marriage, parenting, self-image, medical tourism, and the daily realities of growing as a young family. Whether you're curious about hair transplants, life in Phoenix, or the inside scoop on a third pregnancy, this episode delivers it all with warmth and honesty.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Matt's Hair Transplant Journey (00:01 – 41:55)

• Why a Hair Transplant, and Why Turkey?

  • Matt shares his hairline insecurities, the decision to be proactive before significant hair loss, and how an offer from a Turkish clinic prompted action.
    • "What happened was a year and a half ago, when I shaved my head, I realized how much my hair really was thinning." (02:16)
  • Abby clarifies: Matt was not balding, but wanted to act early and had an opportunity for a hosted experience.

• Preparing for Surgery

  • Matt discusses using minoxidil and finasteride pre-transplant, and the surprising fertility risks associated with finasteride.
    • Abby: "Apparently if you're taking finasteride, it can affect fertility. So know that." (03:26)
  • Luckily, Matt’s ADHD meant he wasn't taking finasteride during conception of baby #3.

• Turkey: Arrival, Impressions, and Hospitality

  • Matt is impressed by Estonova’s all-inclusive package: five-star hotel, transfers, meals, and even a tour of Istanbul.
    • “...I'm talking five star hotel, really fancy transfers to and from the airport to the hotel, all inclusive buffet...I was very impressed.” (04:58)
  • He marvels at Istanbul’s size, history, and architecture, sharing fun facts about the city’s Roman and Islamic legacy.
    • “Istanbul? It's bigger than New York City. It's a massive city. I want to say 20 million people live there.” (08:08)

Notable Cultural Moments

• Matt visits mosques, is required to wear appropriate attire, and shares history lessons with Abby—even during post-procedure downtime.
  • “They just looked like works of art…over 3,000 mosques in the city of Istanbul.” (08:05)
  • "I got to check out the area where they had their version of the coliseum in Constantinople...they’d have gladiator fights." (14:04)

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2. The Procedure & Recovery (18:48 – 41:55)

• The Surgery Experience
  • Matt underwent DHI (Direct Hair Implantation) - a method that avoids scalp scarring by individually extracting follicles.
    • “Luckily I got a DHI hair transplant...rather than doing this old technique where they would...rip off like entire strips of your skin.” (21:03)
  • The only real pain was anesthesia via injections; the procedure itself was pain-free after numbing.

Memorable Quote:

• Matt: "If you don't like the way your hair looks enough, you have to accept that you're probably gonna have a little bit of pain to get what you want." (22:16)

• Post-Op Recovery Rules

  • Sleep at a 45-degree angle for 12 days, wear only button-down shirts, avoid caffeine, sun, sweating, and no sexual activity for two weeks.
    • "I had to sleep at a 45 degree angle for 12 days with a neck pillow." (28:40)
    • "No sexual activity for two weeks is what it said." (29:04)
  • Swelling created a "donut" on Matt’s forehead (from injected fluid) and eventually migrated down his face.
    • Abby: "It literally looked like he had a donut on his forehead and swelling." (29:35)
    • Matt: "I had squinty eyes for an entire day. I looked like a different human being." (29:46)

• The Emotional Side

  • Matt felt lonely but stayed focused on the short-term sacrifice for long-term confidence and his family.
  • "I definitely felt lonely while I was there, like, being away from you and the kids." (10:43)

• Cost & Medical Tourism

  • Turkey offers high-quality results at a fraction of U.S. prices ($4,500–5,000 vs. $15,000–20,000), making it a global hub for hair transplants, plastic surgery, and medical tourism.

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3. Family Updates & Everyday Life (41:55 – 61:41)

Pregnancy Updates

• Abby is in the early second trimester and feeling unusually good—active, sleeping well, with only a few headaches.

  • “I feel really good. I’m cooking, working…eating good, staying active.” (42:16)
  • Matt: “How many days a week are you working out?”
    Abby: “I work out, like, six days a week.” (42:30)

• Headache struggles—discussion of "canceled" Tylenol and pregnancy medication confusion.

  • Abby: “The only thing is, I get headaches a lot at this stage of pregnancy…” (43:41)

Parenting & Home Life

• Adjusting work schedules for more family time, reflecting on the privilege and choice in their lifestyle.
  • Abby: "It's a privilege to be able to be active like this... If I worked full time...no, I would not work out six days a week." (46:21)

Nesting & Preparations

• Abby experiences strong nesting urges: organizing toys, clothes, mud room, and the garage.
  • “It feels like everything is, like, piling up, and I have to take care of it.” (50:27)

Kids’ Milestones & Family Fun

• Hilarious kids’ responses about Matt being in Turkey for a hair transplant, confusion about "transplant," and Turkish delight.

  • “He said, hair transplant in Turkey. Like, he knew.” (34:46)

• Lots of talk about the boys' play, messes with Play-Doh, love of Magnetiles, and upcoming birthday party plans—Super Play indoor park, Lightning McQueen theme, and homemade cupcakes.

  • “He literally loves Super Play. It's like this indoor play park thing, which is great being in Arizona because it's so hot.” (54:54)

• Hosting big family events (pool parties, swim lessons) and the joys/challenges of being the “default” house for gatherings.

  • Matt: "If you're gonna host people at your house, ordering pizza is the move." (56:00)

Upcoming Home Additions

• Excitement over a new, elaborate backyard playset (“citadel”) for the kids, and navigating HOA limitations.

  • "This playset is so extra. So extra. It's a castle." (57:47)
  • "It's more than just a place...this is turning me on so much." (58:22)

• Reflecting on long-term family investments over short-term purchases (e.g., playset over screens).

  • Abby: “I would much rather spend money on something that's gonna get them to be outside, being active, using their imaginations…” (59:05)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Male Self-Image:

  • Matt: "This is the time where I don't have wrinkly skin...if I want to look good, let's look good now." (04:59)

• On Parenting Support:

  • Abby: “I feel very spoiled. And that's why I think I've been able to, like...be active.” (45:16)

• On Medical Procedures & Humor:

  • Abby (joking about Matt getting cosmetic surgery): "What if I said, babe, the whole time, it was never a hair transplant. It was actually boobs...?" (27:29)

• On Cultural Appreciation:

  • Matt: “It's just crazy when you're an American to go somewhere that has so much ancient history.” (15:53)

• On Family Investments:

  • Matt: "I kind of view it as an investment in our children. It's more than just a place." (58:15)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:01–08:35: Matt’s travel to Turkey and early impressions
• 14:04–16:14: Istanbul’s historical and cultural exploration
• 18:48–22:44: Hair transplant procedure details and pain management
• 28:40–31:19: Recovery process, care instructions, and “donut” forehead
• 34:03–36:17: How the kids reacted to Matt’s trip and the meaning of “transplant”
• 41:55–43:49: Abby’s pregnancy update and physical well-being
• 46:21–50:44: Nesting, family lifestyle, and managing stress
• 54:54–56:00: Planning a toddler’s birthday; family gatherings
• 57:47–59:05: Backyard playset excitement and justification

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Tone & Style

Casual, humorous, open-hearted, and supportive—Matt and Abby’s dynamic combines light teasing, honest sharing about vulnerability, and practical family banter. The episode is fast-paced and fun, rich with personal anecdotes and everyday relatability.

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In Summary

This episode provides an honest peek into Matt’s hair transplant journey—covering everything from medical realities to feelings of self-worth, cultural adventure, and the little (and big) domestic moments that define young family life. Abby’s positivity during pregnancy, their team dynamic as parents, and the importance of intentional investments (in health, home, and each other) underpin the episode’s major themes.

Whether you’re looking for insight into medical tourism, relatable couple dynamics, or just some good-natured married people banter, this episode is an engaging listen start to finish.

Transcript

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[B]

Couldn't work out.

[A]

Are you just so attracted to me right now?

[B]

Did it hurt?

[A]

It's one of those things, like, if you don't like the way your hair looks enough, you have to accept that you're probably gonna have a little bit of pain.

[B]

I thought the kids were gonna be more scared of you.

[A]

You were really scared of me. When I came home, it literally looked.

[B]

Like he had a donut on his forehead.

[A]

Hey, real quick. We were taking a look at our analytics and noticed that over half of y' all have haven't subscribed to the podcast.

[B]

O what does that mean? Like, half the people that are listening right now aren't actually subscribed.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

How do you know that?

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YouTube told us based off of the data. Isn't that crazy? I'm offended. I'm actually offended.

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[A]

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Yeah.

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To let the algorithms know that you're happy you're here.

[A]

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[B]

I'll have a conversation with literally anybody. Let's give some backstory here, because a lot of my friends and family, when I said that Matt was going to Target to get a hair transplant, the first thing they said was, is he balding? Like, is he losing hair? And it's like, no, Matt did not have profound hair loss. But that's kind of like the point in time that you want to do something like this so you still have follicles that you can use and move to, you know, where you are receding. That was part of it. And he had been talking about, like, wanting that down the line. And then also this was a Hosted experience. And so it was really like all the reason more to pull the trigger at this specific time.

[A]

Yeah, Well, I mean, what happened was a year and a half ago, when I shaved my head, I realized how much my hair really was thinning. I realized how much my hairline had receded on both sides, but especially on the side that I like, part my hair too. You can really see. Look at this.

[B]

Uneven.

[A]

Yeah. Like, look, there's more recession here on this side because it's where I part my hair. So it's been, you know, pulling back my hair follicles year after year. And so I didn't really realize how bad it had gotten until I shaved my head and I didn't look good. Like, let's just be honest, like the.

[B]

Before and after itself in our garage.

[A]

True. Yeah. I just bought some clippers and shaved my head. But it was. It was a wake up call. And so I immediately started taking finasteride and minoxidil, which, if you guys don't know what those are, Minoxidil is at least the type that I took was a topical serum that I put on top of my head to help regrow hair. It's effective, I want to say, for most people that do it, but it's not like 100% effective. So not everyone that tries it.

[B]

Do you think it helped you at all?

[A]

I really don't know. I don't think I did it long enough. But to be honest, I didn't really see many results. I didn't see any noticeable result from minoxidil. I was. I was also on finasteride. Finasteride. I was on that to help prevent hair loss.

[B]

Okay. I want to actually say something about that because I was telling someone that you had taken finasteride, and they were like, oh, my gosh, how did you get pregnant? Because apparently if you're taking finasteride, it can affect fertility. So know that.

[A]

No, definitely.

[B]

We didn't know that.

[A]

I didn't know that. But thank goodness I have ADHD and just didn't get fulfilled. I didn't refill my prescription for finasteride, and part of it was like, well, I'm about to get this hair transplant, so, like, I'll just make sure I get back on it once I get the transplant. Because you actually do have to continue taking that stuff after a hair transplant. I didn't know that either, but I learned that recently. And so I'm back on finasteride. But yeah, it's apparently makes it harder to get pregnant and apparently you're not even supposed to do finasteride while you're pregnant, because I think it can even. No, no. You're trying to conceive while you're trying to get conceived. Can it, like, harm things too?

[B]

Maybe? I don't know. I'm so glad that you we. You forgot to take it or chose not to take it for a little bit there. So he wasn't taking it when we conceived with baby number three. Yeah, but that, you know, because we.

[A]

Didn'T know that because I was making videos about my hair loss journey. And, you know, just, we kind of. We kind of like share a lot of our life with you guys. And so I was documenting that this company reached out from Turkey saying, hey, we want to give you a hair transplant. And I was, like, super honored that they thought of me. But at first I was like, okay, I'm still pretty young. Like, do I go all the way to freaking Turkey? Like, this is a really far journey.

[B]

Turkey is very far from here.

[A]

But I thought about it and I was like, well, you know, I've never been to Turkey, and I do want to get a hair transplant. You know, I'm sure if I get it now, I probably will need another one at some point in the future. Future. Maybe when I'm 40, maybe when I'm 50. But it would be nice to have like a. A clean hairline in my 20s. Like, this is. This is the time where I don't have. I don't have wrinkly skin, I don't have gray hair. I've only got a couple gray hairs. So it's like, if I want to look good, let's look good now. Okay. So I told them, yes, I'm. I'm down. And so shout out to Eston Nova. They are the people that I partnered with on the journey, and I was really impressed with them. Like, truthfully, I recently put out a YouTube video documenting the whole experience. And it was good. Like, I'm talking five star hotel, really fancy transfers to and from the airport to the hotel, all inclusive buffet, you know, breakfast buffet, really good food, really good coffee. And then I even got to, like, tour the city of Istanbul. So it was awesome.

[B]

That's awesome.

[A]

Yeah, the way you yawned right there.

[B]

Showed me that you were talking right when I was yawning.

[A]

Just showed me how interested you were in what I had to say.

[B]

Anyway, Matt was trying to convince me to go. And it's not like I didn't want to go to Turkey. I really wanted to see Turkey. But I Was like, I just don't want both of us to be gone from the kids. And also I was in the first trimester and like, the flight time alone was like 19 hours.

[A]

Well, yeah, it was. It was like a four and a.

[B]

Half layovers in between.

[A]

I think it was a five hour flight to Seattle, which, by the way, did you know that Seattle is like basically the distance from here back to Missouri? Like, Missouri is like over halfway across.

[B]

The country that day.

[A]

Yeah. No, we're so far south in Phoenix that Seattle is a freaking like it. I was over three. I want to say it was almost four hours. Yeah. Anyway.

[B]

But I was like, I haven't thrown up this first trimester, but I surely will if I'm on a plane for 19 hours plus layovers.

[A]

Yeah. So. So Abby did not come. Maybe next time I get a hair transplant, she'll go with me.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

But it. It was a long flight. It was.

[B]

We'll bring the grandkids. Oh, my God.

[A]

It was a long flight. But you know what? Like, I took some unisum, which, you guys, that stuff works wonders. Knocked me right out. Fell asleep on the plane. I was even in economy. I didn't even sit first class or extra leg room. Like, I was in. I was in the very back of the plane drooling or snoring, I don't know. I have no idea. I was asleep. And then I landed after a 19 hour journey in Turkey. First night, ordered some room service, started to see dudes with bandages all over their heads at the hotel. The city was beautiful. I. I was very impressed. Abby, I think I've mentioned this to you, baby, but, you know, we grew up in. In the Midwest. We grew up around the Bible Belt. And so it's like everywhere you go, there's a church. Like, there's just churches everywhere. Over in Turkey, it's like that, but for Islam. So there's like. There were so many mosques. They were all so beautiful. It was like everywhere I looked, there was a mosque and they just looked like works of art. I mean, these were so tall, so beautiful. There's over 3,000 mosques in the city of Istanbul.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Can you believe that?

[B]

How big is Istanbul?

[A]

Istanbul? It's bigger than New York City.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

It's a massive city. I want to say 20 million people live there.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

And there's an Asian side and a European side. So not only is it.

[B]

No way.

[A]

Yeah. So like the city itself, Turkey, obviously is also, you know, split up into Europe and Asia, but the city Itself is split up onto two continents. So I was staying in a five star hotel, which by the way is included in the package that Estanov, which hosted me.

[B]

That's like, that's awesome procedure and staying at a five star hotel.

[A]

Obviously I'm biased because Estonova took such good care of me, but that I want to say that's like a lot of the places that do it there, like, you don't have to go with the place that I went to, but a lot of the places there, they'll include the cost of all your transfers to and from the hotel and the hotel within the price, like in a package with the hair transplant. So it's. It's such a freaking good deal. The only thing you have to cover in addition to that would be like your food and then flight. The flight.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

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[A]

Transplant in the US, you're looking at probably 15,000, sometimes upwards of 20,000.

[B]

And that's not counting your Lodging, either.

[A]

It's crazy how you get a really good, high quality product. You're getting the same thing you get here in the States, but at a. Like, sometimes 10%, like, literally, like, 90% off is, like, what you're paying. So I thought that was cool. The sad part is, you guys, I. I definitely felt lonely while I was there, like, being away from you and the kids. Abby sent me this video of her leaving the airport with Griffin and Augie, and they were both crying after they dropped me off at the airport. So just. That really made me sad, especially Augie. But I just kept thinking about, like, hey, this is only temporary. I get to see a city that I've never seen before, and a year from now, I will have my full result and full, you know, beautiful, luscious hair, and my wife will think I'm, like, so much hotter after that. I did it for you, baby.

[B]

Very hot. No, it's funny. Every time Matt called me, like, at least three times a day, I would say, and. Which is good. I feel like we're like. That we just, like, always stay in close touch, which I like. But every call was like a history lesson on Turkey.

[A]

What did you learn?

[B]

Wait, and you said the word Constantinople.

[A]

Like, okay, what is Constantinople?

[B]

I don't. It's like a Roman Empire.

[A]

It's the capital of. It was the capital of the Roman Empire. Yeah. But that was when the Roman Empire split because it got so big and they couldn't really manage it that well. So they made, like, a western side and the eastern side of the Roman Empire.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And then about around 500 AD is when the Western Empire fell to Germanic tribes. And then the Eastern Empire, which Constantinople was the emperor of, they held out for another, like, thousand years after the western half of the Roman Empire fell. So, yeah, Constantinople was literally the capital of the Roman Empire for a very freaking long time. It's such a beautiful city. It's. It's crazy how many, like, ancient Roman artifacts they have there. I felt like I was in Rome. Like, when we went to Rome on. On vacation, that's kind of what it felt like being in Constantinople. But then you could definitely feel the Turkish influence because Turks took over, converted a lot of churches that used to exist into mosques, and it's just really cool because it's this. Just this hybrid blend.

[B]

Because they were Catholic before, huh?

[A]

No, they were Eastern Orthodox. Oh, yeah. Have you ever been to an Eastern. One of my friends growing up was Eastern Orthodox because he grew up in Egypt and his family was Christian, and so I'm sorry, It's very similar to Catholic because before I said Catholic, you're like, no, no, it's not. Well, it's similar to Catholic because before Protestants existed, there were two, like the church divided. Kind of like how Muslims divided into Sunni and Shia Muslims. Like there's two big groups of Muslims, but on the Christian side of things, you had. Yeah, Eastern Orthodox Christians and then Catholic and so wait, hold up. I. Somebody fact checked me on this. In the comments, I want to say the reason there was two sections of Christianity was because of the split of the Roman Empire. Because the Roman Empire was Christian. Can someone fact check me on that? Somebody do that, please. Anyway, I'm a history nerd, so I thought that was.

[B]

I got lost a few times, but it's just like when you say Constantinople, immediately my brain just starts thinking about that word.

[A]

Yeah, well, like, I can't.

[B]

I can't move on with your next sentence.

[A]

I got to check out what they call, like the. The area where they had their version of the coliseum in Constantinople. It was this, like, arena that could fit nearly a hundred thousand people there. Yeah, they'd have gladiator fights.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Anyway, I'm. I'm rambling. You probably don't really care about any of that, but needless to say, beautiful city, beautiful mosques. I stepped inside a mosque for the first time. I actually wasn't dressed appropriately, so they had me wear a robe. I. They gave. They had, like, stuff you could put on over your clothes.

[B]

You're wearing shorts.

[A]

I was wearing shorts. Yeah. You can't show your knees.

[B]

That's why I packed pants for you.

[A]

Shoot. I didn't think about that. You thought about that?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You knew that for me to go inside a mosque, I figured because that when you went inside me, you were.

[B]

Going to see mosques.

[A]

Yeah. So when you went inside cathedrals in Europe, you had to wear pants, right?

[B]

Yes. I don't think that they make kids, but my mom did.

[A]

Oh, okay. Yeah, it's the same way there. And this, I mean, I think they probably prefer universal. This is fascinating, babe. The Hagia Sophia mosque, super famous mosque in Constantinople, used to be a cathedral, used to be a church. And so, yeah, Christians worship there until the Turks took it over. And that was really interesting because at the time it was built, babe, which was built, oh, gosh, I want to say 1500 years ago, it was literally the biggest domed building in the entire world. And it held that record for nearly a thousand years. What topped it eventually, I think it was in the 17th century. I think it's St. Petersburg Cathedral, one of those new cathedrals a couple hundred years ago. Ended up beating it, but it was a big deal. So I got to, like, step inside this school, this mosque that's literally existed for over a thousand years. Just, I mean, it's just crazy when you're an American to go somewhere that has so much ancient history.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's really interesting because every. Everywhere here, especially in Phoenix, where we live, it's like, whoa, this building is 100 years old.

[B]

Yeah. That's like, crazy.

[A]

If things are. You go to Washington, D.C. and it's like, this is 200 years old and this is 300 years old. It's like, wow, that's crazy. And you go there and they're like, this area is actually 10,000 years old. Like, it's just insane.

[B]

That's crazy to think about.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So that's nice that you also got to do a little tour.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Get see around Turkey. But you were feeling lonely.

[A]

I was feeling lonely. I ended up buying some baklava to help cheer me up and. But then I didn't eat it because I wanted to keep it sealed for you and the boys to try it. Yeah. But unfortunately, the baklava didn't really save. I brought it home and it, I, I.

[B]

It still tasted good.

[A]

It wasn't. I mean, you got to eat it fresh. You got to eat some fresh. When you're in Turkey, you got to eat fresh baklava and fresh Turkish delight. The Turkish delight was fantastic.

[B]

That was nice of you to think of us.

[A]

But I did make the mistake of drinking Turkish coffee the wrong way because I, I like, try to drink it all, like, all together. And they have the grounds at the very bottom, so it got on my teeth.

[B]

Did they tell you not to?

[A]

Yeah, they were like, yeah, you. They, they looked at me and they were, like, laughing, like all of the people that were with me.

[B]

Was it so strong?

[A]

Very.

[B]

Coffee's, like, thick, right?

[A]

Yeah. They took really good care of me, though. This episode is brought to you by Square. Your favorite neighborhood spots Run on Square.

[B]

I was just thinking back to Christmas, and there's a really, really cool neighborhood in our town that goes all out for Christmas. I'm talking about every single house is decked to the nines. And since it's warm here in Arizona, we love just walking through it with our kiddos in their wagon, seeing all the lights and stuff. And a lot of the homes have hot cocoa stands or cookie stands, anything, you name it. They have cotton cand all these little shops from the kids in the neighborhood.

[A]

And if you know us, you know that we never have cash on us. So I was like, oh, we can't.

[B]

Say, you know, we never say no to a kid selling us something.

[A]

But we don't, we never will always be.

[B]

Yes, if you're under the age of.

[A]

16, yes, but we never have cash. And so this kid was like, do you guys want hot chocolate? And I'm like, oh kid, I'm so sorry, we don't have cash to buy the hot chocolate. And he goes, oh, that's okay. I take credit card. And we're like, what?

[B]

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[A]

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Because it's not just the neighborhood hot cocoa stands though, it's like the local sandwich shop, maybe your local restaurant.

[B]

Support your community. You can go to square.com go unplanned to learn more. But before you do, go support your favorite neighborhood spot. Be happy you did square. See you in the neighborhood. Okay, so the actual procedure, did it hurt?

[A]

Actually yeah, it did. The main part that hurt was the anesthesia section that lasted about five minutes. They put needles in my head to numb it. So that for the four hour long procedure where they were implanting two 800 grafts in my head, which is, if you, if you're watching on video you can see like they, they brought down my hairline on the corner. So I have recession on the left and the right. That's where they brought my hairline down. And they, they, yeah, they numb all that as well as the back of my head. They, they pulled hair and extracted them from like the, the sides of my head that have the thickest amount of hair and brought it on top.

[B]

So yeah, the numbing hurt. It's like shots in your head.

[A]

Yeah, the numbing hurt. But it was manageable. I think I was just naive. Like I didn't, I didn't really do much research going in. I really trusted Estanov though because my brother in law is a huge fan of some of the Barstool podcast that they have and a bunch of guys from Barstool got their hair transplants from Estonova. So I knew that they were reputable. I knew that they had done hair transplants for a lot of, like, well known, you know, Internet personalities. And so I. I just knew that they weren't going to mess up. I knew that they had a good reputation. Didn't even take a look at their website until afterward. And then looking at their website, I was like, oh, wow. Like, I. I went to a really good place because they have so many good reviews, so many cool before and after photos. And I could just tell from the. Just the way they treated me. Like, I was like, this is a top tier, high quality place.

[B]

Did they speak English?

[A]

They did. Everyone spoke English that I talked to. It was rare that there wasn't somebody that spoke English. But on top of that, I had a translator babe. So this lady, Yasmin, she was so nice. She spoke freaking. I think it was four or five different languages.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Because she spoke Turkish and English. I want to say French and then Spanish and then Arabic. Yeah. Five languages.

[B]

Gosh.

[A]

I was so impressed. And her English was incredible. So I was like. I was like, you're so much smarter than me, Matt Yasmin, because you're. You're like walking me through everything, telling me everything that, like, that's gonna happen.

[B]

Like, just casual everyday talk. Like, it's like.

[A]

No medical terms. No. Yeah. Using medical terms. Just. I'm always impressed by people that can speak not only two languages, but if you're like in the two plus club, Holy frick. Like you are, you are impressive how.

[B]

To keep it all straight.

[A]

But, yeah, I just. I was always told what was going to happen before it happened. And luckily I got a DHI hair transplant. Don't ask me what that stands for. But what that essentially meant is rather than doing this old technique where they would get graphs from the back of your head ripping off, like entire strips of your. Of your skin was.

[B]

One at a time.

[A]

Yeah. They would one at a time extract individual, like, you know, clumps of hair follicles and didn't have to rip off, like, a strip of skin. So people that do the old technique where they would take off strips of skin that leaves your. Your head with scars. With the DHI technique, they don't have. You don't get scars on your head. Yeah. Or at least like, it's. It's less invasive. It's. There's just a bunch of little dots where they went in and ripped out hair.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And when they implant them, they use this, like, special sort of pen and would just go and just like, shoot the Follicles? No, because they numbed me. So, yeah, it was, like, the numbing process that hurt. But the actual, you know, procedure itself.

[B]

During it.

[A]

No, during it. During it, I wasn't in pain. It just was a little weird because I was awake the entire time. But I brought AirPods so I could listen to a podcast.

[B]

I thought it hurt the whole time.

[A]

No, it didn't hurt until I got back to the hotel, and that's when my pain medicine started to wear off. And so I took some more, like, painkiller because I started to get, like, a really bad headache. But that's just. Apparently, that's pretty normal. It's one of those things, like, if you. If you don't like the way your hair looks enough, you have to accept that you're probably gonna have a little bit of pain to get what you want. But it's. It's. So. It's such a short amount of time. And then once I took the painkiller and put an ice pack on my forehead, like, it basically went away.

[B]

I just felt bad I wasn't there to take care of you.

[A]

Oh, you're good. You're good. You had to be with our children. You know, our kids need their mom.

[B]

Did you basically spend the whole next day in your room?

[A]

Yeah. And it was funny. Like, my head hurt so bad. Initially, I just closed my eyes and listened to, like, YouTube videos about the history of Constantinople.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

That checks out in the History of Turkey. It was fascinating stuff. I learned quite a bit.

[B]

See, that would give me a headache in itself, really, learning about history.

[A]

I thought it was so cool.

[B]

I'm interested, but I'm like, gosh, it's gonna take me some effort.

[A]

I was literally in a city that predates, I want to say, the New Testament. Like, it's been around so long. So ancient. Even got to check out. I didn't even mention this. Even got to check out this ancient cistern that supplied water to the. The palace for the emperor. So it was like this underground Roman water reservoir where they had. Is it called an aquifer, where they would, like, transport. Like, the Romans built these transport systems for water to come in and out of the city. They. It was one of those where they would transport water into it. I just thought that was so freaking cool. And I got to see those in Rome. Yeah. But then. And then they had this famous column where it was a statue of. It was Medusa's head. You know Medusa, the mythological creature with the snake hair? Yeah. Got to see that lady, she was pretty creepy.

[B]

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[A]

What questions have your friends asked you when they find out if it hurts? Oh yeah.

[B]

A lot of people are interested in cost because like with Turkey you hear a lot. Like you see those videos of like guys with bandages or bald heads on their way to Turkey.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so I think a lot of people can put two together, two and two together, that if you're flying all the way to Turkey, there must be a significant price difference in the procedure, 100%. People also get like veneers done and other cosmetic surgeries.

[A]

Yeah, I was talking to a kid at the hotel that asked me about the bandages on the back of my head and he was telling me that he's known people that have gotten all sorts of plastic surgery there. He was somebody from the uk so he had, like, a really cool accent.

[B]

See, it's interesting that you call him a kid, but he was clearly an adult.

[A]

Well, he. He. I call him a kid because he was probably like 18 or 19 years old.

[B]

We're getting older.

[A]

I feel like I could be this kid's father, but I'm obviously not that old. I'm not that much older than him.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But, yeah, there were quite a few people that were getting, you know, I was talking to different people. And, you know, there's just a lot of. A lot of medical tourism is what it's called. People going to tourism, going to Turkey to get their teeth done.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Boobs done. Nose done. Every. Everybody's getting things done.

[B]

Noted. Yep, noted. What else were people asking me?

[A]

How would you have reacted if I would have come on, come home with a pair of boobs?

[B]

You asked me that.

[A]

What did you say? Maybe you shouldn't say on the Internet what you said to me.

[B]

What did I say?

[A]

I'm not gonna say it.

[B]

Divorce.

[A]

That would have been a pretty. A pretty shocking way for me to come home.

[B]

It's like, sorry, I would have to be a pretty good wife. I would not know what to do with those things.

[A]

We're getting off topic. Okay.

[B]

Anyway, Matt literally asked me that question. Like, is this something you're considering? Do we need to have a conversation? What's. What's the deeper literary.

[A]

What if I said, babe the whole time, it was never a hair transplant. It was actually boobs, and I was just too afraid to tell you.

[B]

Okay, moving on. I mean, I guess, like, what was the recovery like? Is like what a lot of people say. Like, a lot of people afterwards were like, how's he doing?

[A]

The funny thing about the recovery, babe, is I didn't read the aftercare instructions that Estonova sent over before I even flew out. Like, they sent this out well in advance.

[B]

Yeah. You just never read it.

[A]

Yeah, we had. We had a consultation all over Zoom to where they could, like, look at my head. I sent pictures. We messaged over WhatsApp. So there was this whole process and system in place.

[B]

Matt Howard, fashion. He's like, I'm just gonna wing it.

[A]

Yeah. So I wong it. And the night before, I was like, you know, maybe I should, like, take a look at these aftercare instructions. First thing it said is, wear button down shirts, because you can't pull, like a regular shirt over your head to.

[B]

A button down shirt.

[A]

Are you sure? Did I actually have one? Maybe I did. You had one, but it looked like I was what was I gonna wear a freaking, like, polo with, you know, Nike gym shorts? It just looked. It was a weird look.

[B]

That's what you had to do.

[A]

Yeah. So anyway, button down shirts were a must.

[B]

Pull shirts over your head.

[A]

I had to sleep at a 45 degree angle for 12 days with a neck pillow. So, you know, completely different way of sleeping. I slept horrible the first night because I'm just not used to sleeping sitting up. And that's that, like, all the blood and crap can drain out of your head. And the other main thing was no sexual activity for two weeks is what it said.

[B]

Okay, wait, pause right there. Can we talk about the donut you had on your forehead?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Is that what had to drain out?

[A]

Yeah. Okay, so to be able to extract all the hairs around the sides of my head. Babe. They pumped like, water or some sort of liquid. I forget what they said, but they, like, pumped something into my head.

[B]

Like saline?

[A]

Yeah, like, to expand my skin. That way they could see the graphs and extract them. And so all that traveled to your forehead. Oh, yeah. So all that had to slowly drain out. And so that's why I had to.

[B]

Sleep at a 45. It literally looked like he had a donut on his forehead and swelling.

[A]

You guys. I actually have pictures of my forehead being Megamind and then it going down to, like, my eyes, to where I had squinty eyes.

[B]

Freaked me out.

[A]

I had squinty eyes for an entire day. I looked like a different human being. Like, I did not look like myself.

[B]

I thought the kids were going to be more scared of you. They were like, like, dad, like they didn't even care.

[A]

You were really scared of me when I came home. Like, I. I didn't. I looked very creepy. I also had, like, bloody, like, wounds on the back of my head.

[B]

I. I don't like, holes. So all those holes.

[A]

A bunch of mini, tiny little holes.

[B]

It didn't look as bad as I.

[A]

Thought it was gonna look, though. What's that, that fear called? I know when you're afraid.

[B]

There's a name for it.

[A]

When you're afraid of what is like, honeycomb or. Let me look this up, Let me look this up. Trypophobia.

[B]

Trypophobia.

[A]

Trypophobia. Trypophobia is an aversion to the sight of. Is repetitive patterns. Ooh, repetitive patterns or clusters of small holes or bumps. And then this is what it shows. Yeah. So a honeycomb would be, Would be an example of that.

[B]

Do you feel that way when you see that type of thing?

[A]

You know, I was trying to, like, empathize with you right there and, like, understand it. Some pictures can be a little creepy to me, but for the most part.

[B]

No, for me, it's, like, geographical, too. Like, if there's, like, Like a porous landscape.

[A]

Oh. Or someone's, like. If it's like, someone's foot or, like. Oh, just like a human. Human body.

[B]

I could never work in the medical field.

[A]

Yeah. With, like, a bunch of tiny holes on it, but, yeah, that's. That was what my head looked like. So. I think you were a little.

[B]

Wasn't that bad.

[A]

You're a little freaked out.

[B]

They weren't like, deep holes, but there's just, like, little dots. I can do dots better. Yeah. I was more so concerned about the swelling, and I was also just concerned that you were in pain, but I think you were doing a lot better at that point. Yeah. Wait, so you. Let's go back to. You couldn't have sex.

[A]

Yeah. So we couldn't have sex. And I don't think that one lasted flat log. They. I learned that today. I learned that the day after the surgery. We were talking. I talked to the doctor because I had, like, a checkup.

[B]

The day sex came up with this doctor.

[A]

Well, they were like, okay, so no sexual activity. No this, no that. I'm like. I was like, hold up a second. You're telling me no sexual activity for 22 weeks?

[B]

You, like, repeat that one?

[A]

Yeah, I was like, nobody told me about this. This is the. My favorite part of being married.

[B]

That's sad. Don't say that.

[A]

What it was. It's one of the benefits.

[B]

One of the.

[A]

One of the many benefits.

[B]

One of the many benefits.

[A]

So anyway, yeah, they. They. They hit me with that one at the end.

[B]

You probably thought that wasn't gonna be that big of a deal.

[A]

But there was quite a few things, though. Like, I said stuff you'd never think of. I'm not a smoker, but they said, like, no smoking for. I think it was two weeks after the surgery. No alcohol for two weeks after the surgery. You know, just like, any sort of caffeine, anything. None of that. No caffeine. I couldn't have caffeine the day of the surgery even, because that can affect things.

[B]

A lot of people ask me, like, is he just going to wear a hat? And I was like, he actually can't wear.

[A]

Couldn't wear a hat for an entire month. I'm actually back to wearing hats in the sun. No sunlight. No direct sunlight exposure. Yeah. No working out. No sweating yeah, no, like, physical activity. Really?

[B]

Wait, wait, wait. What are you gonna talk about when you said that? Well, you called me and you're like, abby, this. This isn't good. They said that I can't have sex for, what is it, 14 days?

[A]

14 days?

[B]

14 days. And I was like, now why is that? Like, I couldn't figure out, like, how there was a correlation between your hair trans transplant and, like, us having sex. And you're like, well, they said that it could cause me to sweat or bonk my head.

[A]

Yeah, bump your head. Sweat. And then it's the blood pressure, too. So your blood pressure quickly rises and falls, and that apparently is what. What doesn't. Weird, right?

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

Yeah. Who knew that the. The restrictions after hair transplants were that extreme? There's even more that we're not even mentioning. There's so many that, like. Like, I can't even put hair products or hairspray in my hair first or get a haircut. Yeah, I. I haven't.

[B]

That's why it's really long on that.

[A]

Yeah. So that's why my hairs. It looks so weird right now is because they just buzzed the sides. They didn't, you know, try to blend it or make it look good. They just, you know, it was all a medical procedure. Right. And they said that I couldn't get a haircut for a month. So today's the day that we're filming this. Right now is actually the first day that I can get a haircut. Probably should have gotten one today, but.

[B]

Maybe you could do that.

[A]

Maybe I'll get one here in the next day or so, because I feel good. I would love that, you know, that would be great.

[B]

It's funny because, like, me telling the kids, I'm like, they're in Turkey. And then girlfriend's like, I want to go to Turkey. Of course I want to go in Turkey. And then I was. He's like, dad. Like, why is dad there? I was like, oh, he's getting a hair transplant. He really locked on the word transplant, because obviously he probably hasn't really heard that before.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then there was a podcast I was playing, and they said something about, like, an organ transplant. And he's like, transplant? Like, he's like. Knows that word.

[A]

No way.

[B]

He's like. Like, a hair transplant in Turkey. Like, he's like, it's so. Like, they're so smart. They're just trying to put everything together. And I was like, you are so smart, buddy. I was like, it's kind of different.

[A]

Wait, what did Griffin tell his friends about where his dad was.

[B]

He said, hair transplant in Turkey. Like, he knew.

[A]

No, but I thought. I thought he. Like, I thought he said, my dad's in Turkey to feed the turkeys or, like, to eat Turkey.

[B]

At first, he thought he was. You were gonna eat turkey in Turkey? That is very confusing. There was a lot of, like, he's like, yeah, eating Turkey.

[A]

Why did I think Turkish Delight was actual, like, turkey coated in sugar?

[B]

Oh, my.

[A]

As a kid. As a kid watching the line.

[B]

What?

[A]

It was the line, the Witch in the Wardrobe, when she said Turkish Delight. Me, being a dumb little kid, didn't really think through the fact that it was Turkish. Like, it's from the country of Turkey. But in the same way as Griffin was thinking, like, literal Turkey, I was like, oh, that must be a sugary, like, you know, meat snack.

[B]

I played Lucy and Wardrobe, so I knew about Turkish Delight.

[A]

It's good.

[B]

It's really good.

[A]

I ate it a lot there for the show.

[B]

They got it at a TJ Maxx.

[A]

What?

[B]

They sold it at TJ Maxx?

[A]

They sell Turkish Delight at TJ Maxx.

[B]

With nuts in it.

[A]

It's probably less expensive than the Turkish Delight I bought in Turkey, surely.

[B]

Well, probably less authentic.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I literally bought it in the country of Turkey, so it was yummy.

[B]

And it's covered in, like, powdered sugar, right?

[A]

Oh, you've. You've been eating it.

[B]

I know. I had it when I was in the show.

[A]

Oh, you haven't opened up the Turkish Delight that I brought home for you.

[B]

I didn't realize you brought home Turkish Delight. Is it in the pantry?

[A]

It's in the pantry, yeah. This is my gift to you.

[B]

Open to that.

[A]

There's my gift that opens.

[B]

I like it.

[A]

Griffin and Augie would love it.

[B]

They would, yeah. Oh, they surely would. Does it have nuts in it?

[A]

Yes. Pistachios. Pistachios, yep.

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[A]

It's going to take a while. It kind of freaked me out in the days after the surgery because on the 12th day when I could shampoo my hair fully and like remove the scab because I had a bunch of scabs form where the hairs were coming in, I had a ton of hair fallout. Like a lot. There were so many long hairs. And like my hair has never been.

[B]

Not the new follicles, but like the actual hair that was already on his head fell out.

[A]

So it fell out. But apparently that's very normal.

[B]

Like you can see it's like thinned a lot.

[A]

Yeah, my hair has thinned quite a bit. It's harder to notice because right now like my hair is like slicked back. But if my hair was going to the side right now, you'd be like, oh, wow, its hair looks like it's thinning. But that's just part of the recovery process because your head's freaking shocked. Like they, they just, it went through a trauma. Yeah, they just injected my head with needles to numb it and Then extracted a bunch of hairs, 2, 800 grafts, and then implanted those graphs on top of my head. So, you know, I went through a lot. And it makes sense when you think about it that way, why I lost so much hair.

[B]

Happens when you are postpartum, like after birth.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Your hair. You lose a lot of hair because you're probably like, I just went through a thing.

[A]

Yeah. But anywho.

[B]

It was a really good experience. You weren't gone that long at all. Like, you literally left on a Sunday and we're back on a Friday.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it felt long for us because I'm pretty sure that's like, the longest we've been apart.

[A]

I. I tried six years. Abby and I tried sleeping with our bed at an angle so that I didn't have to use, like, 50 pillows to do a 90 degree angle or a 45 degree angle.

[B]

Is cranking my neck.

[A]

And Abby felt like, poor thing. Like, couldn't sleep that way. So we.

[B]

I slept one night like that, and then the other nights I was like, I'm gonna go the guest bedroom.

[A]

Another thing, I have been styling my hair by leaning backwards into our bath and just running water over the back of my head because I can't put product in it. I'm technically not supposed to comb it or use a brush for a couple of months.

[B]

Shampoo.

[A]

Oh, I can use shampoo, but I can't, like, style my. I'm not really able to style it.

[B]

You know, that's just a you thing, though.

[A]

I can't use a brush. I can't. I can't use a brush or a comb. I can't use the. You know, Happy. A lot of guys use American fiber or just, like, any sort of pomade to style their hair. Can't do that. So I've been just going into how.

[B]

Long until you can do that?

[A]

I have to review my. My sheet.

[B]

Well, that makes sense.

[A]

Explaining everything.

[B]

Get a haircut. They're going to use a brush on your hair.

[A]

Oh, wait, you're right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I didn't even think about that, but I thought, can't they wait? You're right. They do use a comb when I. I need to ask somebody about that. Yeah, maybe. Maybe, like, since they're only doing a haircut every so often, it's not a big deal. Maybe they're just saying, like, daily brushing is bad, but me getting one haircut isn't gonna, you know, drastically affect.

[B]

I feel like you don't even use a brush, really. Anyway, you just kind of run your Fingers through it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's not like you're getting tangled in your hair.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, super excited to see the results here in 12 months. That's how long it takes. And I. I couldn't be more thankful to estonove for, you know, making this all happen.

[B]

It was a great experience.

[A]

Yeah, it really was a great experience. And I'm hoping that Matt was, like.

[B]

Eating, like, halibut in his room. Like, he had nice fish dinners.

[A]

Yeah, just. They.

[B]

They. They had tiramisu.

[A]

I felt like I got the luxury experience because they. They just know how to do it right. In Turkey, I was really impressed with the country. Felt very safe. I. There was never a time there that I didn't feel safe. And it's, you know, there. It's. It's a big city, a lot of people. So just.

[B]

I'll have to go with you next time.

[A]

I know you will. It'd be fun.

[B]

Thirty years, actually, like, while I was.

[A]

There, I really wanted to bring the kids and just like.

[B]

Yeah, you do say that we should.

[A]

Get them used to the culture, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

People would love. I think all the people there love kids, so I think it'd be fun to bring little kids that would be good to Turkey. But let's. Enough about me, babe. Let's talk about you. How are you? How are you feeling today? Everybody knows you're pregnant. Everybody knows that. We've got baby number three on the way, so how. How are you feeling, really? Let's do that. How are you feeling, really?

[B]

I feel really good. Yeah.

[A]

Really?

[B]

I'm cooking. Working.

[A]

Let's go. What's making you feel really good? Anything specific? I'm eating good, eating good.

[B]

I'm staying active. That makes me feel really good.

[A]

You're working out quite a bit. How many days?

[B]

Sleeping good.

[A]

How many days a week are you working out?

[B]

I work out, like, six days a week.

[A]

That is insane.

[B]

Five, six. Something like that.

[A]

See, like, it's one thing to do that when you're not pregnant, but then to do it when you're pregnant. Very impressive.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Super impressive. Seriously, like, that's. That's so hard.

[B]

Well, you can't just start that when you're pregnant. You got it. I've been consistent for years before I. You know what I mean?

[A]

Today's my first day I can work out after not being able to work out for a month.

[B]

I was thinking about that. I was like, how did he not go to the gym this morning?

[A]

And, you know, I.

[B]

It's like my favorite Outlet.

[A]

It's weird. Like, I just kind of. Like, I think I have gotten a little complacent. I really need to go tomorrow, though, because I haven't gone today.

[B]

I really enjoy it, baby.

[A]

I'm getting a little chubby.

[B]

No, you're not.

[A]

I am, babe. Like, I. My belly has definitely moved. I would love you with a big belly moved a couple inches horizontally. I'm growing horizontally. So am I. I know, but you have a child in your belly. I'm just eating cookies.

[B]

It's fine. I'm eating cookies, too. It's not all baby, but I. I.

[A]

Probably eat five times as many cookies as you eat. Let's be honest.

[B]

Come on, just gain weight with me. Gain. Gain. 45.

[A]

All right, fine. All right, whatever. Yay.

[B]

No, I felt really good. The only thing is, I get headaches a lot at this stage of pregnancy. Both times, I've gotten a lot of headaches. Like, late first trimester, early second trimester, I get a lot of headaches.

[A]

And you can't take Excedrin because.

[B]

Excedrin now, apparently, they just canceled Tylenol.

[A]

Wait, okay. Why is Tylenol canceled?

[B]

Can you explain? I really looked into it because I. My doctor hasn't said anything.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So I'm just gonna.

[A]

You're just gonna listen to what your doctor says? Yeah. In case your doctor recommends to change. You're. You're cool with it?

[B]

Yeah. I mean, I'm in so much pain, like, when I have these headaches, so I'm like, don't take the one thing that we can take.

[A]

Oh, yeah, because Tylenol is the one thing you can take. Is ibuprofen allowed when you're pregnant?

[B]

I take acetaminophen. No, you can't take ibuprofen. I take acetaminophen.

[A]

Wow. Yeah, that. I forgot about that.

[B]

I mean, headache. These headaches will last days for me if I don't like it. And I took it with my other pregnancies. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure people read that and wanted, like, cut it out completely, and I totally get that. I didn't look into it too much.

[A]

And your bump has grown. It's so cute. You can. I think you can, like, noticeably tell you're pregnant now.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. Like, when you wear your workout sets to the gym, you got this cute little bump, and it's just. It's clear, like, oh, that's a pregnant mama. And I think it's really.

[B]

I'm, like, so unaware of, like, my bump at this. This time around.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Like, I'm just going with it. Like, I don't. I think the last time I was like checking the mirror every day to get to see both times, like, see what it looks like. Now she's like, ah, que sera sera, Whatever will be. It wasn't like I was worried about it, but I'm just like, it's just happening and it's just not my primary focus.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like it was, but so excited for this baby. Obviously we have a long ways to go.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But it hasn't gone really fast. Yeah, lots of headaches. I've been sleeping. That's the thing. I've been eating really good. I've been sleeping really good. I've been active. So I feel like those things really help. The reason I've been sleeping really good is because Matt wakes up at the kids every morning. Basically you put them to bed, like every night. Like, I'm just kind of spoiled. I think about moms that don't have that luxury or like their husband isn't able to or doesn't do anything for the kids. Like, I'm like, wow, this would be a whole different ball game if you were like working all the time or like out of the house or had to travel a lot. So I feel very spoiled. And that's why I think I've been able to, like, that's the reason why I'm able to be active. Like, let's be honest. If I worked full time and then you also had a crazy work schedule and we still had two toddlers take care of, like, no, I would not work out six days a week. Yeah, like, absolutely not. So, like, if you're pregnant and have little kids at home and also work or don't have the same situation with your spouse, like, don't be sitting here judging yourself because this is literally just the, like, this works for our lifestyle. But if I had that lifestyle, I certainly would not work out six days a week.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's a privilege to be able to be active like this. It's not like I'm like, tougher than other pregnant women.

[A]

And we've definitely both transitioned from working, you know, a full time job to like working less than that in the week so that we can have more time with our kids.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just because, like, we love them and we want to spend as much time.

[B]

With them as we do what we do.

[A]

Yeah, it's like the reason. Yeah, exactly. I think, I mean, you literally said it perfectly. So there's nothing else for me to add.

[B]

Prioritize that so, yeah, it's been really good. Good. It's been really good. We're looking forward to the anatomy scan.

[A]

Yeah. Excited to find out what the gender is. That's. That's coming up. We're gonna, you know, be waiting for the anatomy scan to find out the gender. But the, the recent hold up we've been dealing with, you guys, is trying to decide when we're going to pull the trigger on Abby's new mom car. Because we just got done looking at so many different vehicles. So many different three row vehicles.

[B]

I'm so sick of looking at cars, honestly.

[A]

Yeah. But it was, it was fun. Like we got to really. We test drove a ton of vehicles. We, we did minivans, we did freaking Escalades. Then we did like electric vehicles that have three rows. And it was shocking to like see the comparison between all these cars because they're so different. But at the end of the day, they're just getting you from point A to point B. However, you know, if you don't have enough space for your growing family, it can be, be. It can be inconvenient, you know, So I think, you know, Abby's in that nesting phase right now where she is so eager to pull the trigger on a car like right now. But something I think we're still figuring out is if we're gonna wait closer to when the baby's born, just because then we have more. More options. We can really think through what we want to do. But I'm also getting side eye right.

[B]

Now and I think, well, more options like what. What's like something else is going to hit the market between now and j. I don't know.

[A]

I don't know. How, how do you feel on like buying a used car versus a new car? Like what. What's your. What. What do you think about that?

[B]

I really don't. I think that all depends on your financial situation.

[A]

Yeah, that's. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because part of me, we, you know, we.

[B]

The last time raised to never ever buy a new car.

[A]

That's same. Yeah, same. And it just so happened that when we bought our cars three years ago, the cars that we.

[B]

It was when there was a shortage.

[A]

Of chips and so the only cars available were really new ones because, I mean, or the new cars were the exact same price as the used car. So it just did not make sense to buy a used car at that time.

[B]

I would say I want the next vehicle. We get to be like a long term vehicle because both the cars that we have, we haven't really had that long, like, the. They still feel new to me, basically.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But we've just unfortunately grown out of them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Too quickly. Well, when we bought, like I want. It's appealing to get a new one. To get exactly what you want.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you can just like, really get the most out of it.

[A]

Well, Abby, our family has over doubled since we bought the two vehicles that we have now.

[B]

And then I start to think, I'm like, I want to be able to take, like, their cousins with them someplace. I want to be able to take their cousins out and, like, all of us go together. But then I'm just like, oh, my gosh. There's too many factors to consider. But it's not like I want one now. But I did tell you. I was like. There is just, like, a certain sense of, like, urgency, of, like, wanting to get all. It's just all related to nesting. But I feel it now really strongly. Like, I tell Matt every single day, I feel like my stress levels. This pregnancy have been really high.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Which is, like, not necessarily related. Well, I was related to the pregnancy at the beginning. Now, where I. At the stage where it's, like, related to, like, our surroundings, which is so dumb because we have all of our needs met. I understand that. But, like, sometimes it's just, like, stress is just a thing that you feel that you can't, like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You can't rationalize your way out of. And so I'm like, oh, my gosh. Like, they're toys. I need to go through all their toys and, like, get. Get them in a good system so we can keep our house really, really organized. I'm like, I need to go through all their shoes and the mud room. The mud room needs to be sorted. And I'm like, the garage. Gotta do the garage.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, they're closed. I gotta get rid of, like, the clothes and get, like. It feels like everything is, like, piling up, and I have to take care of it. When logically, the logical side of my head is like, okay, you have plenty of time. Not everything has to be perfect when this baby comes. But there is just some instinct that kicks in. It's weird.

[A]

Yeah, it's. It's funny how you. You have that, like, nesting instinct. Because I get that. I understand, like, the desire to make our house functional and nice, and we, you know, we're. We have a good system down, but it almost feels like no matter what you do, there's always going to be the next thing.

[B]

Oh, totally.

[A]

To make your life even better. But you know, what I've. What I found to be really funny is I've just, you know, set the kids loose with a little. A little bucket of water in the backyard. We got it. We got it fenced off to where they're enclosed in a safe space where they just, you know, we're. We'll be in the kitchen, like, doing dishes, and they're, you know. Right. You know, literally 10ft away. But to them, it feels like they just have the freedom to, you know, throw. Throw the rocks in the. Around the. Our ficus hedge if they want to, or roll around in our. In the grass. Like, they can do whatever they want.

[B]

Same thing. Yeah, I'm talking about, like, organizing cabinets.

[A]

Oh, yeah. But I'm just. I'm saying, like, I love that our kids don't need a lot to create fun.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Like, I think sometimes parents think they need to do all this stuff and buy all these things for their kids when their kids just want. Get to, like, throw rocks and splash in some water. And, yeah, you might want some toys for your kid, but they create toys, right? Like, they. Half the time we buy something, they end up playing with the box more than the actual thing.

[B]

That's not what I'm talking about, though, Matt.

[A]

Really.

[B]

I'm talking about just making our house organized.

[A]

Okay. Maybe I got. I got a little sidetracked.

[B]

I'm not talking about buying toys, but I'm sorry, because I totally am aligned there, and I see what you mean, but that's. I'm just wanting to know. That's not what I'm talking about.

[A]

No, I guess what I'm saying is, is I've noticed that our kids playing outside, especially when they do, like, a water activity, like, with water guns and stuff, they end up not messing up the house as much.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I feel like they have more fun because, you know, Griffin and Augie are attached at the hip, and they do everything together, and it's the cutest thing in the world when I'm, like, doing dishes and they're just cracking up at each other.

[B]

Well, a lot of my friends that have girls, though, they're like, we spend six hours a day culling coloring, and I'm like, oh, coloring is an activity that happens on our walls for, like, five seconds. And then, yeah, the crayons get bitten or broken, and then no actual coloring happens.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's kind of shocking to me when people tell me that. I'm like, oh, you guys just, like, do crafts.

[A]

The other One is Play D'oh. Like, our kids never works. Our kids somehow get Play DOH all over the carpet. All over.

[B]

Mix it all together.

[A]

The nice tile in our backyard.

[B]

Shove it in their trucks.

[A]

I'm not a fan of the Play doh.

[B]

They shove Play DOH in their truck tucks, and it gets stuck there and it dries all up.

[A]

But you know the toy that I actually love that our boys have been obsessed with recently? Magnetiles.

[B]

Oh, I want to get more magnetized.

[A]

They're so good.

[B]

They've been playing with us for like an hour.

[A]

In other news, we are currently planning our two year old's birthday party and you're probably like, wait a second, wasn't his birthday last month?

[B]

We've already celebrated his birthday twice. We celebrated with your family in the Midwest.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And then we celebrated it on his birthday with, like, our family here.

[A]

And this will be his third birthday.

[B]

His third birthday party for his second birthday. And it's gonna be with all his friends.

[A]

Yeah, it was. It was a busy time. So we're like, we're gonna push it.

[B]

Further back, though, because we're having two babies born in our family and we kind of wanted to hit it dead center.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So hopefully. Well, hopefully, but not hopefully, the second niece or nephew doesn't get born before or during Augie's birthday party.

[A]

Yeah, we don't. We don't want that to overlap, you know?

[B]

Yes. But he's really excited to celebrate it. I've been asking him every single day. I'm like, do you want it to be at Super Play or do you want it to be at home? And he'll be like, home? And I'll be like, do you want it to be at home or at Super Play? Super Play. Like, great, okay. And then I'm like, okay, do you want it to be Lightning McQueen themed or Buzz? He's like, buzz. Like, would you want to be Buzz or Lightning McQueen? Lightning McQueen. He always just says what I say second, so.

[A]

But Buzz and Lightning McQueen are the two action figures that he always carries with him.

[B]

So we're going with Lightning McQueen at Super Play.

[A]

Okay, that's cool.

[B]

That was the answer. I got the most from him.

[A]

I didn't realize that it was Lightning McQueen themed. And now I'm stoked because I love that.

[B]

Too fast, too fast, too fast.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Love it.

[B]

Lighting McQueen themed.

[A]

Love it.

[B]

Super Play. He literally loves Super Play. It's like this indoor play park thing, which is great being in Arizona because it's so hot.

[A]

Should we try to make the cake? Because I know You've been. You've been really into baking recently.

[B]

I thought about making cupcakes.

[A]

Okay. Do we. Do we get a professionally made cake as well?

[B]

Maybe he would like a professional one so it, like, actually looks like Lightning McQueen.

[A]

That's true. That would be kind of cool.

[B]

I'm no professional cake artist.

[A]

Yeah, maybe we hire someone to do that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know you. And you make. Still make the cupcakes, though, because you make really good cupcakes.

[B]

He loves super play. It's like this indoor play park. They literally get in there and they are both beat red and sweating the entire time. They, like, go so hard. They love this place. There's balls. There's places, like, really cool slides. Just place for them to run around and climb and just be wild. And though there's a basketball court that Auggie loves, it's like a bouncy floor. So fun. Anyway. And they also love that they serve soft pretzel nuggets there. They both can eat so many soft pretzel nuggets, they just go crazy. So it's gonna have all of his favorite things, and we're gonna have, like, 15 or 20 toddlers, so it's be gonna be amazing.

[A]

That's so funny.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Speaking of 15 to 20 toddlers, you guys, we have people over at our house all the time. It's. It's like, oftentimes, Abby's family, my family, we've been hosting swim lessons. There's been families coming in and out of our house literally, like, every day. And then recently we hosted a pool party.

[B]

It was just a spur of the moment Saturday night.

[A]

Yeah, spur of the moment. And being 25 people in total. Including. Including kids. And I thought I bought enough pizza. Like, I got six pizzas. Win.

[B]

Did that include kids?

[A]

I think so.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And breadsticks. And, bro, we cleared it out. Like, we cleared all of it out.

[B]

That's the worst thing that could happen at a party. And I feel run out of pizza.

[A]

But we didn't run out of food until, like, literally the last five minutes.

[B]

No, you did a pretty good job.

[A]

I think everyone got enough.

[B]

You nailed it. You hit it, honestly, spot on.

[A]

But, yeah, it was just, like. It was fun. It also made me realize, like, dude, if you're gonna hope most people at your house, ordering pizza is the move, because it's so, like, it's so comparable to buy to buying food at the grocery store. Like, I spent less than 100 bucks to feed 25 people. That's not that bad, right? And it was delivered. It was delivered too. That included tip.

[B]

And the delivery driver was so nice.

[A]

Yes. So I'm. I'm team order pizza whenever we host things at our house because it tastes great. And. And then we. Then we both get to just like enjoy the party and not like, like spend our entire time trying to make sure everybody else is enjoying too.

[B]

Everyone kind of brought.

[A]

Oh, yeah, no, yeah, people brought stuff too.

[B]

But also, it's gonna be really fun to host once our new playset is in.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You guys, we. This is the things you get excited for when you have little kids. But I have been. It's literally gonna be Christmas morning when this new playset arrives. Matt is the one. You were the ringleader for this decision.

[A]

I was.

[B]

This playset is so extra. So extra.

[A]

It is. It's a castle.

[B]

Like, Matt, you decide. And I was like. He's like, I don't know. He's like, well, their friends are gonna want to play on it. Their cousins are gonna want to play on it. We're gonna have more kids. Like, let's just send it. If we're gonna do it, we're gonna do it at this point in our life. And I was like, I love the way you that. Honestly, that was like such a turn on.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, I was just thinking about the fact that the place that I had as a kid, I grew up using that thing from when I was 4 to when I was like, like almost 14.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So it was just such a part of my childhood. And I kind of view it as an investment in our children.

[B]

Matt.

[A]

It's more than just a place.

[B]

The way that this is. This is turning me on so much.

[A]

And luckily, you know, luckily I was able to pull some. Pull some triggers. I talked to this local company and I was like, are you guys looking for any Rough House?

[B]

Let's give a shout out.

[A]

Rough House, They're a local company in Arizona. I was like, hey, are you guys looking to do any advertising? And they happen to be doing that because they work with a lot of creators who help them get the word out about Roughhouse. So they're able to cut me a deal. But we still had to dish out quite a bit of money. I mean, it's. It is very, you know, it's expensive.

[B]

Top tier playset, but it's an investment.

[A]

In our kids childhood. So I think it's worth it, you know, and I would have paid more. I would have paid top dollar for it, but I am frugal. And so I was like, hey, Maybe if they need some advertising, I can get a discount. And it worked out.

[B]

It's gonna be so fun with all their little friends, like, and our kids are just going to be over the moon. I would much rather spend money on something that's gonna get them to be outside, being active, using their imaginations, and not investing in something that's gonna keep them inside on a screen.

[A]

Well, this. Okay, so this swing set, you guys.

[B]

It'S not a swing set. It's really called, like, a citadel or something.

[A]

Yeah, it. It has a bridge from one section of the swing set to the other side. It has two towers. Two. Yeah. So two towers, three slides. Yeah, I think one of the slides that you're mentioning is technically a ramp, but it has, like, a swirly one, and then a big, really long one, has a rock, swings, three swings.

[B]

It has misters to keep them cool. LED lights at night.

[A]

Yeah, it's gonna look sick at night. And I love. I think eventually we'll get a shade for the top, because think about, like, July in Arizona. It's like, 110 degrees out.

[B]

I don't know if our HOA is going to be like. Like, chill with that.

[A]

Oh, crap. I didn't even consult HOA yet.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I swear, if we get a notice from the HOA saying that we can't have this, if they, like, flag us or something, you should report this. Maybe we'll just, like, plant more trees around it or something. I don't know.

[B]

You're not gonna be able to hide the Citadel, dude.

[A]

I think if we put more. Because we have a ficus hedge in our backyard. If they give me a notice, I. I might just, like, freaking plant more ficus hedge everywhere, and then you won't even see it. And they can kick rocks because it's like. Okay, if you're gonna. If you're gonna get mad at me for putting a. A. An investment in my child. Child's future in my backyard, like, that's not cool. Okay.

[B]

Okay. Yeah, I think it should be fine.

[A]

One of our neighbors got a citation from the HOA because he had this, like, teeny little shed that was too close to the fence that is next to the road on the side of the house, but there's a tree in front of it. Like, you can't even see it. And he pointed out to me and he told me that he just ignored the HOA violations, and he's never been fined.

[B]

Arizona and their HOAs, they never actually.

[A]

Like, went after him.

[B]

That's surprising.

[A]

That's what? He told me. He also told me that none of the neighbors who have also gotten violations from the hoa, They've, like, they haven't gone after them either.

[B]

Okay, good to know.

[A]

So I'm just. I'm learning stuff from people in the neighborhood.

[B]

Well, anyway, this thing is gonna be so awesome. I feel like the kids are going to have a total blast. It's gonna get. Get so much use in our house. We have always have so many kids over. I'm just really grateful. I'm. It's literally gonna be like Christmas morning. Like, this is better. Like, I'm so excited for this to be here. I want to play on it. I want to go on that. Down the slide. Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. I feel like this has been, like, a long time in the making because we first started planning this in July. Like the beginning of July.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So this is gonna be totally awesome.

[A]

Yeah, we're. We're so stoked. I'm excited for, you know, a year from now when we've gotten a ton of use out of the swing set. My hair is going to be all grown in on the corner. So if. Hey, like, take a look, you guys.

[B]

If you haven't seen a six month.

[A]

Old, oh, my gosh, we have a six month old a year from now. That's crazy.

[B]

You're, like, through it.

[A]

Wow. It's gonna be cool. So thank you, everybody for being here. Thank you for following along with our podcast and with guests. You know, if you have any suggestions for people that you'd like us to interview on the show, please drop them down below in the comments. Definitely consider subscribing because we have new episodes every single week.

[B]

Invite your friends over for pizza this weekend. Yeah, make it happen. You can get a lot of pizza and breadsticks and wings.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

From pizza.

[A]

Yes. Thank you for listening and we will see you in the next episode.

[B]

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