It's baby time!

Summary

Podcast Summary: "It's Baby Time!" — The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Release Date: August 5, 2026
Hosts: Matt & Abby Howard

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Episode Overview

In this lively and honest episode of The Unplanned Podcast, Matt and Abby share their experiences as they await the arrival of their third child. With Abby at 37 weeks, they candidly discuss the physical and emotional strains of late pregnancy, preparations for the new baby, managing toddlers, marital dynamics, labor plans, and the anticipation of major family transitions.

Their trademark humor and warmth shine throughout, offering relatable perspectives on the realities of family life, pregnancy, and partnership.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Full-Term Pregnancy & “Baby Watch”

• Abby is 37 weeks pregnant and experiencing frequent contractions, many of which are "prodromal labor" or strong Braxton Hicks.
• The mental game of waiting: Abby expresses, “I just feel like the baby's not going to come until... 39, 40” (01:18).
• Matt’s curiosity about how Abby is handling everything — including hosting pool parties and her many professional roles (02:23). Abby attributes her coping to teamwork: “It’s not like I’m doing it alone. We’re doing it together.” (02:45)

2. Coping with Grouchiness and Discomfort

• Abby openly discusses feeling grouchy due to pregnancy hormones and insomnia:

  Abby: “I don’t have the energy to… be chipper and smiley.” (04:21)

• Matt asks what improves Abby's mood and how she manages to still work out, to which Abby notes she sometimes prefers solitude but also craves Matt’s comforting presence (11:38).

3. Preparation & Nesting

• Matt installed the car seat—described as a “sweaty” Arizona ordeal (05:23).
• They’ve cleaned baby clothes, set up the bassinet and bottle station, and noted the absence of a dedicated nursery, instead keeping the baby in their room as with previous kids (08:48–09:00).
• Reflections on nursery culture: Matt shares,

  "If you're sending it on the nursery, then you have to redo all of that in like a year." (09:00)

4. Toddlers & Sibling Transition

• Their boys, Griffin and Augie, pick out toys for their baby brother but inevitably want to play with these toys themselves (11:00).
• The boys are showing emerging protectiveness and possessiveness over the baby's things, indicating excitement and some sibling adjustment (10:37).

5. Honest Relationship Dynamics

• Abby and Matt reflect on communication pitfalls, irritability, and the need for grace and teamwork as partners:

  Abby: "I'm gonna be grouchy, but I need you right next to me." (11:41)

6. Physical Symptoms & Medical Updates

• Abby details prodromal labor:

  "It’s like where you’re having contractions… not real… but intense enough it’s hard to get comfortable and sleep." (12:34)

• She is already 3.5 cm dilated. The doctor could feel the baby during the cervical check (14:34, 14:53).
• The baby's measurements are normal: approx. 6 lbs 15 oz (25:07), with an expectation of a 7–7.5 lb birthweight.
• A moment of medical anxiety: Abby’s blood pressure spiked at an appointment, leading to follow-ups at home (27:19).

7. Birth Plan & Hospital Logistics

• Their preferred OB will be out of town 38 weeks; Abby is "trauma bonded" to her doctor and hopes for a "redemptive birth" (25:23–25:43).
• Discussion of labor interventions like membrane sweeps—Abby notes she's not especially sensitive to them and debates whether pain or lack thereof predicts effectiveness (29:01–29:43).
• Abby is hoping for a VBAC (Vaginal Birth After Cesarean), and both discuss the nervous/excited feelings about it (45:47–46:07).
• Debates around the epidural: Abby leans towards getting it at 6–7 cm if possible (46:22).

8. Breastfeeding Tips & Preferences

• Abby shares her experience with pumping colostrum for the first time to potentially avoid formula supplementation in the hospital (17:44–18:41).
• Strong preferences on postpartum boundaries:

  “If you try to touch me when I’m breastfeeding, I swear to goodness…” (76:28) "Don't even look at me when I'm breastfeeding." (76:43)

9. Dividing Parental Duties & Emotional Preparation

• Both rehearse what words and personal support Abby will want during labor:
  • Encouragements like "You're doing such a good job", "You're so strong", and “With every contraction, you're one step closer to meeting our baby” (49:00–50:55).
  • Physical comfort: Matt should stick to touching her hips, hair, or back, and never belly, boobs, or butt unless explicitly invited (58:03).
  • NO phone, food, naps, or unnecessary jokes in the delivery room (60:00–60:06).

10. Family Dynamic Changes & Emotions

• Both express bittersweet feelings about the upcoming change:

  “There’s just like a certain sadness for like our family unit as it was.” – Abby (20:29) “That season of life is… basically over.” – Matt (21:07)

• Discussing memory, time, and the fleeting nature of stages with kids (21:30–22:43).

11. Life with Toddlers During Pregnancy

• Screen time is an occasional necessity to get things done (23:45; Q&A, 67:53).
• Other helpful habits: getting kids out of the house, play gyms, playdates, and accepting help to avoid parental burnout (68:59).

12. Humor & Light Moments

• Debate over coffee breath, hygiene, and “why are so many boys gross?” (05:42–06:10).
• Joking about Star Wars nurseries and outlandish DIY ideas (09:44–09:56).
• Reminder moments:

  "Our kids are going around saying poop and toot…" – Abby (72:20)

• “She’s anything but a dog. She’s a goat. She’s an otter. She’s a hound.” (56:02–56:09)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On labor:

  Abby: “The blessing of the end of pregnancy — you’re so uncomfortable that, like, labor sounds delightful.” (45:58)

• On teamwork:

  Abby: "No, it's not like I'm doing it alone. We're doing it together." (02:45)

• On parenting:

  Abby: “Your time is not your own anymore... but there’s so much deep purpose in having kids.” (70:32, 71:16)

• On hospital boundaries:

  Abby: “No touching the belly. No touching the boobs. Definitely not the butt. Only the hips and hair...” (58:01)

• On emotional shifts:

  Abby: “Our family as we’ve known it will be totally different forever after this point.” (20:29)

• On encouragement during labor:

  Matt: “With each contraction, you're one step closer to meeting our baby.” (49:00)

• On humor:

  Matt: “Why are so many boys gross?”
  Abby: “Poor hygiene.” (05:56–05:57)

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Q&A Segment Highlights

• Will Abby take time off from the podcast?
  Yes, 2 weeks of planned leave, with guest episodes airing (67:01).
• Advice for being pregnant with toddlers:
  Turn on Disney+, get out of the house for playdates, and accept help (67:53–69:56).
• Hardest part about having kids:
  Time management and putting children's needs first, but it brings deep purpose (70:22–71:20).

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Practical Labor Room Instructions (from Abby to Matt)

• Only offer specific, verbal encouragement (49:00–50:55; 58:42; 59:01).
• Physically: Touch only hips, hair, and (light) back scratches. “Don’t touch my belly, boobs, or butt!” (58:03)
• No eating, sleeping, phone use, or texting in the delivery room unless given explicit permission (60:01).
• Bring the baby for skin-to-skin after delivery; do not force formula feeding; mention prepared colostrum (62:47–63:44).
• If Abby gives certain looks during labor, Matt must instantly change his behavior (59:10).
• “Don’t touch or look at me while I’m breastfeeding.” (76:28–76:58)

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Lighthearted & Sweet Moments

• Complimenting each other's looks and expressing excitement about newborn skin-to-skin — “I’m excited to see you hold a baby shirtless again.” (75:59, 76:04)
• Comparing family life to Animal Planet (76:20–76:27)

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Episode Timestamps by Major Segment

• 00:30 – 03:59: Early labor symptoms, hosting friends
• 04:00 – 10:00: Grouchiness, preparations, car seat installation
• 10:00 – 14:00: Sibling excitement, nesting, hospital registration
• 14:00 – 18:59: Anatomy of prodromal labor, contractions, insomnia
• 19:00 – 26:00: Last OB appointments, birth weight, blood pressure
• 26:00 – 34:00: Membrane sweep, labor induction, date night, spicy food
• 34:01 – 41:32: Arizona heat, pool dog antics, sibling room logistics
• 41:33 – 49:00: Setting labor/delivery expectations and encouragement phrases
• 49:01 – 62:13: Physical support, postpartum boundaries, birth/feeding plans
• 62:14 – 65:15: Historical birth practices, perineal tearing, postpartum plans
• 65:15 – 77:08: Listener Q&A, parenting advice, screen time, family humor

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Tone & Language

Warm, self-deprecating, playful, and transparent. Matt and Abby bounce between practical advice, honest vulnerability, sharp wit, and affectionate teasing. The episode is filled with laughter, real talk about marriage and parenting, and thoughtful insights into anticipating big life transitions.

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For New Listeners: Why This Episode is Worth Your Time

If you’re seeking real-life pregnancy stories, couple dynamics under stress, and practical (sometimes funny) strategies for both parenting and labor, this episode is a candid, engaging listen. Matt and Abby remind listeners that parenthood is about teamwork, flexibility, and lots of laughter—even when things (and hormones) get a little messy.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Did you just get hit with a contraction feeling? How do you feel?

[A]

As hard as a bra. That's why I'm like, my uterus needs to take a break. She's susceptible to a rupture. Take it easy, girl. There's no touching the belly.

[B]

No touching the boobs. I'm writing that down. No touching your butt. But if I'm touching your hips, though,

[A]

that's the problem, is sometimes you're doing that to relieve pressure. Your hands drift. It's not. It's about even a little bit. So excited to see you hold a baby shirtless.

[B]

I'm also looking forward to seeing you shirtless with a baby as well.

[A]

That's animal. Plan it.

[B]

What's up, dudes? Welcome back to Unplanned. You guys, we are officially on baby watch. Abby's full term, 37 weeks. Contractions are happening.

[A]

See, I just feel like the baby's not going to come until.

[B]

Until what, 39, 40?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Really? this point, why do you feel that way?

[A]

I don't know. I think I have to feel that way or else you're like. You lose the mental game, you know?

[B]

Oh, yeah. How are you. How are you handling all of this so well? Like, you.

[A]

I'm.

[B]

You just threw a pool party. I come home from the gym, and there's, like, a herd of toddlers at our pool, and you're just hanging out. Like, how are you handling that? It's impressive.

[A]

I've been really grouchy recently. I don't think I'm handling it, like, the best.

[B]

You feel grouchy.

[A]

I feel grouchy.

[B]

Then. Wait, why. Why invite people over to our house? Was that just, like, a spur of

[A]

the moment kind of happened?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That. That doesn't make me more gr. I don't think.

[B]

Oh, okay. Did that make you happy to have people over?

[A]

It's. Yeah. I hang out with them every day, so it's like, I can hang out with you at my house.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I could hang out with you at a trampoline park. Hang out with you. Like, I was. I was Already planning on hanging out with them.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, I mean, our house was certainly a mess when they came over, but that's. That's kind of like my motto with hosting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just, it's better to have people over than to feel like you can't have people over unless it's perfect.

[B]

Yeah. I honestly don't know how you do it, though, because you're pregnant, growing a baby. You're running a mascara brand that just launched and sold out. You run. You're on two different podcasts, you have Instagram, TikTok, and a YouTube channel. And is there something that I miss full time? Mom. I don't know how you do it all, girl.

[A]

Got a lot of help.

[B]

You're impressive.

[A]

No, it's not like I'm doing it alone. We're doing it together.

[B]

We're doing it together. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. You're right. But I'm not growing a baby.

[A]

You're. Yeah. No, you're not doing that.

[B]

Yeah, so I'm. You're awesome. You're awesome. So when did the grouchiness start? When did you start feeling the grouchy. The grouch come out?

[A]

Maybe like, 37 weeks.

[B]

What was it? Was there, like a certain thing that was just like.

[A]

It's hormones.

[B]

Ah, okay. Okay.

[A]

I don't know. See, like, right now I feel grouchy.

[B]

You do? You do?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Did I say something that pissed you off?

[A]

I don't know. It's like, it's not you. I know it's me, but it is you.

[B]

I made the mistake. What did I say? I said something about like, yeah, well, you know, the baby could come anywhere from now or in the next three weeks.

[A]

No, in my head it was like.

[B]

How did I say it in your head?

[A]

Like, you were, like, diminishing the way that I felt currently.

[B]

Oh, gosh.

[A]

Because it's like, you still have three weeks. And I was like, shut the F up. Like, I don't know. What. How did it come out?

[B]

That's the thing. Wording words sometimes are hard for me. And I feel like if I'm not ultra clear in the communication and, like, the way that I'm saying it, then I'm like, oh, gosh. I don't.

[A]

Like, it's one thing for me to be like, it could be three weeks from now, and then it's another thing for you to be like, buckle up, girl, it could be three.

[B]

I did not say that.

[A]

No, no, no, you didn't say it that way.

[B]

I did not say it that way. Maybe that's how you interpreted it. Maybe that's, like. Maybe that was a story that you're choosing to tell yourself.

[A]

Maybe.

[B]

Yeah, maybe that's good. I like that line. I like the story that I'm choosing is now.

[A]

It's just, like, so much of my energy has gone towards having these contractions that aren't, like, real, that I'm like. I don't have the energy to, like. I don't feel like I have the energy reserves to just be chipper and smiley.

[B]

Do you feel bubbly? Do you feel at peace now that I have installed the baby's car seat in my car.

[A]

I'm so glad you did that. That was bothering me.

[B]

It's there. It's all set up, fully installed.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

Is there anything else that's, like, lingering on your mind?

[A]

Well, I did realize yesterday we never registered at the hospital.

[B]

I guess that's when we have to do. We. We.

[A]

You do have to do that.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So let's do that then.

[A]

I guess I did.

[B]

Oh, you did.

[A]

I think it should be done now.

[B]

Oh, thanks for doing that.

[A]

I think I need to follow up and make sure that that's done.

[B]

Would they deny us if you're in

[A]

labor, and I can't imagine they would deny you, but I think that you could probably. It would take you longer to maybe get in a room and stuff.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I don't think that's something we really want to do is just, like, hang out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Not in a room there.

[B]

Let me just say I chose the wrong day to install our child's car seat.

[A]

Is not a right day in Arizona.

[B]

Goodness, Abby. Like, I. So you asked me to do it yesterday, and I was like, then. Then work got in the way, and so I ended up, like, having to push it off till today. But to be honest, part of the thing that was just, like, I was dreading. I was like, oh, my gosh, I'm going. I'm going to sweat so much installing this thing. And I did. It was 107.

[A]

Yeah. And you're not really a sweaty guy.

[B]

I'm not? Yeah.

[A]

You know, I gotta give you props. You're not gross.

[B]

I'm not gross.

[A]

I think a lot of boys are kind of gross.

[B]

Really?

[A]

I don't think you're gross.

[B]

Why are so many boys gross?

[A]

Poor hygiene.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Smelly and, like, dirty.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Like, with their space and living stuff.

[B]

Ah, yeah.

[A]

You're not dirty and you're not gross. You have good hygiene.

[B]

I feel like I keep Keep.

[A]

Maybe I like your pheromones.

[B]

Oh, yeah, you do like the smell of me. You'll, like, wear my shirts and stuff. There's, like, science to that, isn't there?

[A]

I don't know. It's like, I. I don't know. I think I learned that from, like. Oh, and a baby is, like, sad, missing their mom.

[B]

Yeah, that's weird. You like my scent? Like, is there something in particular that I do that is, like, so tidy and not. Not, like, messy or nasty.

[A]

You just. You don't stink.

[B]

But I feel like sometimes the one thing that I get comments on those is you'll be like, your breath is rank.

[A]

Yeah, because you think that if you drink coffee, you don't have to brush your teeth, which.

[B]

That is not what I think. That is not what I think, Matt.

[A]

Say it right now.

[B]

Say what right now?

[A]

I'm not pulling this out of nowhere.

[B]

What?

[A]

You are wrong. You say that if you don't. If you drink coffee, then you don't need to brush your teeth in the morning.

[B]

Okay, Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[A]

You do say that.

[B]

First of all, I am 110% team. Brush your freaking teeth. That is like, I brush my teeth every day. Okay, once a day, but sometimes I don't do it in the mornings because I got in a really bad habit after going through the newborn stage where

[A]

it was like, this is not our baby's fault.

[B]

I didn't even know. Well, it's something that I could fix now. But then we're also about to have another newborn, so it's probably. I'm gonna fall right back into that habit.

[A]

But you still brush your teeth twice

[B]

a day when you were so tired, and then you're, like, waking up with your kid, and then there's all this stuff to do. Then it's like, oh, my gosh, it's noon. I haven't even brushed my teeth. And so usually what I do is I would wait until, like, I've, you know, gone to the gym, hopefully, and worked out, and then I'll brush my teeth at, like, noon, because then it's like, I get it all done when I'm, like, showering, because I don't shower before the gym. That'd be weird to shower, like, before and after, if that makes sense.

[A]

Basically, you're making a lot of excuses, but you tell me that if you drink coffee, then your breath doesn't stink.

[B]

I think I.

[A]

But you're also putting milk in your coffee.

[B]

I think you get coffee breath if you drink coffee.

[A]

But there's milk in it. It's a latte, so that makes it really stinky.

[B]

Okay, well, I'm sorry. That's something that I. That's. That's an area of improvement I could focus on.

[A]

That's the one thing that you're kind of gross about.

[B]

Okay. Anyway. Nesting. We have a bassinet all set up. We've got the baby monitor set up, We've got a bottle wash station set up. We've got all these things and oh, I went into our shed, pulled out all the baby clothes, threw those in the wash, used the non scented laundry detergent because apparently babies don't like scented stuff.

[A]

And well, it's just, it can irritate their skin.

[B]

That's right. And you know, so we're doing all the things and everything's, everything's good to go.

[A]

It's pretty. It's as good as it's gonna be. We don't have a nursery.

[B]

Yeah, I get, you know, that's the thing. I think we did a nursery for Griffin, our firstborn.

[A]

We haven't done one since and since

[B]

then, you know, because our babies stay

[A]

in our room for really long time.

[B]

Yeah. And also if you make a really cute nursery, I. My opinion is if you're gonna go all out on your kids room, I feel like the age to do it would be like maybe when they're five or six. Because then that's actually a good point. I think like five or six you do it and then maybe when they go into middle school you redo their room again and then high school you do it again because like then that's like three different stages. But if you're going, if you're sending it on the nursery, then you have to redo all of that in like a year. Because it's really not going to be the right theme for a toddler. You know, you're not going to want all the rainbow. Like your toddler is going to want to have like Darth Vader and sports and stuff. Like if Auggie had like rainbows in

[A]

his room, he'd be like, just start now with a Darth Vader nursery.

[B]

That's true. How funny would that be?

[A]

They would love that.

[B]

If it's like a Darth Vader shaped crib, it's like the baby sleep leaves.

[A]

It's like the Millennium Falcon.

[B]

Yes. How sick would that be?

[A]

No, the Death Star.

[B]

I will tell if I, I've thought about this. Like I see some of these dad diyers and I'm not a handyman by any Means. But I think it'd be fun to like, make to do something epic in one of our kids rooms. You know, kind of like how I build a half pipe in our backyard. It would be cool to just like send it on our kids room.

[A]

Well, Griffin and Augie think that this baby's moving into their room once he's done staying in our room.

[B]

I mean, he really could.

[A]

He could.

[B]

I don't know if they'd all sleep well together, though.

[A]

That feels crazy. That feels absolutely crazy. But they're already getting. I feel like I. I feel like they're gonna adjust really well because they already talk all the time. Like, they got a couple toys for the baby.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they were like, yelling at their friends, which isn't nice, but they're like, don't touch that. That's for baby. Like, they, like, are already getting, like, protective of his stuff. They're already, like, talking about, like, what's his and how it's going to work.

[B]

It was really sweet how you had the boys pick out toys for their baby brother, but they kind of just ended up picking out toys that they wanted.

[A]

We made them pick out baby toys, though.

[B]

Yeah. But they. They ended up like, we got home and they started playing with the baby toys they picked out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. And fight. And fighting over the baby toy they picked out.

[A]

Yeah, that's true.

[B]

For their brother. So that's just. That's just called having kids.

[A]

Almost three and a four year old.

[B]

Exactly. Okay, so what are you noticing? Like, now that you're feeling you're in this stage of pregnancy, you're ready for this baby to get out? What. What are you noticing is helping with the grouchiness? Like, what helps you feel better in your day? Nothing. Here's my question. How the heck are you still working out?

[A]

Actually, I think I like being alone a little bit more now.

[B]

You like being alone?

[A]

But I actually feel like I feel that way. But then I also, like, feel really attached to you, and I think that's actually maybe normal. Like, towards the end, I'm like, I just am really scared of, like, you not being around me. Like, I want you to. You're like my comfort person. Even though I'm not, like, pleasant, like, I'm like, you still gotta be here. So that's a tough place for you to be in because I'm like, I'm gonna be grouchy, but I need you right next to me.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

You gotta suffer through me. I mean, I feel like I haven't been that bad, though. Do you think?

[B]

No, I was telling you this, like, you've been so nice to me this pregnancy. I feel like you're just. Honestly, you're. I think you're. You've been the best version of yourself that I've ever gotten to know.

[A]

I gotta get back to that. I think for the past three days, since I've been 37 weeks, I just got grouchy and I just gotta suck it up.

[B]

Well, it's probably really hard to feel all that movement in your. In your stomach. And also it's the exhaustion.

[A]

So, like, I've been having probably what you would call prodromal labor, which is like, where.

[B]

I've never even heard of that. What is that?

[A]

Yeah, it's like, where you're having contractions. They're like, not real.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But they're intense enough that I, like, it's hard to get comfortable and it's hard to sleep.

[B]

What does pedromal mean?

[A]

I don't know. What does prodromal mean? Fake.

[B]

Where did you learn that?

[A]

It means fake.

[B]

I know what a Braxton hick is, but I've never heard of it. Oh, okay. It's another way of saying it's the same thing.

[A]

It's just consistent, like long, drawn out Braxton Hicks.

[B]

Okay. Okay.

[A]

That, like, make it so I couldn't sleep. So I've been up a lot of nights just like, with like, that tightening. I wouldn't say it hurts. I would honestly have been, like, glad if they hurt because then I was like, oh, then that means that it's progressing somewhere. Yeah, but it was just intense. Yeah, but it wasn't hurting. So then I was just like, well, this is just a really weird place to be in because I'm just. Can't sleep. But it's not like, go time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So then I was, like, up. I was up for the day at essentially 1:30am yeah.

[B]

You got hit with pregnancy insomnia, which is. Insomnia is horrible. Like, people that deal with insomnia. I dealt with that for a brief moment, like a year ago. Oh, gosh. Like, that sucks. I suck. So what did you.

[A]

What did you do when you're already so tired from being pregnant, but then you're also extra tired? Because I've been having, like, these contractions. And then you can't sleep, so it's just a little bit crazy. And I feel like your risk of. I mean, I feel like probably your chance of experiencing prodromal labor has to go up with each pregnancy because I just feel like my body's like, oh, we know what to do, but it's like, but wait, it's not the time, so don't start sounding the alarms yet. It's not the worst thing ever, but it certainly is not. Not fun.

[B]

Yeah. I just can't believe to wear you out. I can't believe you're dilated to three and a half centimeters right now.

[A]

I mean, what it's. It is like, what's the point?

[B]

At the last pregnancy appointment, the doctor literally could feel the baby when. When she, you know, did. Did the check the cervical check or whatever.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know. Feels like we could just hang out here for a while, though, you know?

[B]

Yeah. I didn't realize. Well, in the past last two pregnancies, you, we. You never really got to that. That far.

[A]

We just didn't. Never checked with a scheduled C section, but I was having, like, those Braxton Hicks.

[B]

You were.

[A]

Okay, so I don't know really what that case was, you know, it's hard to know. Yeah. But, yeah. So, I mean, really, what they say is baby could come now, baby come on his due date. And we know that, like, the baby's not going to go past his due date. We'll all be induced on that day if he's not here before then. But, yeah, we'll see. I'm so curious. But also, I'm like, I do know that he's going to come at the right time and that'll be that. But right now we're just in a weird limbo where it's just like we're making plans, we're still doing stuff all the time, but it's like, okay, Are we going to actually do that, though? Like, is our life going to be completely different at that point? Yeah, because I know that, like, once. Once you go into the hospital and, like, you have that baby, like, it feels like the. That version of yourself that made those plans is a totally different person. And so it's like, I'm so. I'm so anticipating, like, that big shift happening, but it's like. But when is it going to happen? Yeah, it's exciting, and I feel like we're in a good place because it's like, we did nest. We have, like, everything, like, pretty much ready, which is great because I feel like for the longest time, we had nothing really done. I mean, we don't have a nursery, which will be fine.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

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[A]

I mean, I did pump yesterday for the first time.

[B]

Okay, have you, did you pump today? Have you done it twice or literally only one time?

[A]

No, I actually was reminded of how much I really don't like pumping.

[B]

Is it, is it the contractions that start to happen?

[A]

It's just like you're experiencing it but you don't have your baby.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

The contractions aren't fun either, but yeah, I'm like me. Well, hopefully I don't have to pump a ton this pregnancy or what. Hopefully I have to pump a ton with this baby.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But yeah, I was pumping. Got some colostrum. So this is the first time we're saving it, I guess. I guess we'll save it. Because I feel like with little babies, sometimes there takes a minute for your milk to come in and sometimes their blood sugar can drop. And I feel like they've always been really pushy in the hospital with both times, like with wanting to give them formula and I'm like, I'd rather you just gave them this colostrum like instead. So maybe we'll have to find a way to bring that to the hospital or.

[B]

Yeah, how would we bring that?

[A]

And then I guess we'll just have to put it in the little syringes that Addie brought and Then freeze it and then as soon as we get there, put it in their freezer.

[B]

Okay. So.

[A]

Okay, that's an extra step. So we can make that happen.

[B]

We can bring it frozen and then let it like thaw out.

[A]

I mean it'll be in tiny syringes so I feel like you'd barely have to leave it out and it would thaw and then they can just put it in like you just put. Squeeze a little syringe in their mouth.

[B]

Syringes. Like we like feed our baby with a syringe.

[A]

I mean it's one of those things you only do like literally the first like three days of their life.

[B]

Ah, okay.

[A]

And then they start eating. Gosh, you forget. Isn't it so weird? Like you forget. Yeah, like all the, like he's gonna have like a little umbilical cord sticking out of his belly.

[B]

It's gonna be weird. Like the. All the onesies are so tiny that we went through getting all the clothes folded and put in, put into.

[A]

Do you think it's just gonna snap back into place?

[B]

I think we'll quickly get there. I. I think we will.

[A]

Okay. Like, did you think that we would have. I would have more confidence at this point? Yeah, yeah, I kind of thought I would have more confidence, but I. I don't know.

[B]

I think, I think we'll get it like I think we'll figure it out. We have. We don't really have an option unfortunately.

[A]

I think our most confidence we had was before we had babies and then now that we have babies, I feel

[B]

like we just keep losing confidence youe have no idea.

[A]

Yeah. Cuz you're just like, man, so much of this is like actually out of my hands and I think that's a better place to be because it's like you, then you just take the, you roll with the punches more because you're like, this was, you know, this was gonna happen either way. I don't have control over this 100%. But then it is just like now we're at this place, we're like, wow, we're at crossroads. We're about to cross into a whole different life.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because like our family that we've like known it will be totally different forever after this point. And it's just kind of like, wow, that's. And that's a big thing. And that's why I was starting to get more emotional too about like our kids, like our two boys. Like it's going to be sad like in a way, like we're. We want this Baby so bad. And we have for so long and we're so excited. But then also there's just like a certain sadness for like our family unit as it was.

[B]

Yeah, you're right. You're right. I mean that season of life is. Is basically over. I mean.

[A]

Yeah, cuz I know that. I know what, how it's going to be like once we have this baby, then it'll be like we kind of even almost like forgot about that version of our family.

[B]

You know, I. It's hard to remember a version of our two boys before they could talk. Like, it's like I forgot. Forgotten that they were ever newborns. Maybe. Maybe my brain just like made me forget about that stage because it was.

[A]

You just forget it so quick.

[B]

Yeah, I guess like your brain only has so much capacity for memory, right?

[A]

My brain has no capacity.

[B]

I mean, we've both lived so much life already. I was actually. This is so. This is so morbid. I was like laying in bed last night and I was like, okay, if I quadrupled my age, that would. That would mean that I would be 112. Like if, like, if I've definitely lived,

[A]

I've quit doing this is what I'm talking about. Like, why do you have to keep doing. Giving me a crisis like at random times? This is the worst time for a crisis.

[B]

It's weird though, to think about like how much of the percentage of our life we've lived.

[A]

See, that's not the time.

[B]

Not the time.

[A]

Not the time.

[B]

Okay, but we have. I think we have. I mean, we have a lot of life left to live. I'm just saying we've lived a lot of life already. There's a lot more, hopefully. I mean, you know, but. But you know, we just. I guess our brains only have so much memory capacity before you have to kind of throw some memories away.

[A]

I was just talking about with Abby.

[B]

It's inside out. You know the scene in Inside out where like get rid of it. They take the memory and they go and they like get rid of all those memories when joy and sadness are walking through the. The stream of memories.

[A]

The library movie ever.

[B]

Speaking of. Speaking of movies, I feel like we've entered that stage with you being so pregnant and having so much going on. We're kind of like in that spot where it's just like sometimes we gotta just turn on a movie for the kids so we can go set things up. Go get a bassinet set up. Go go get different things prepped for our house. You know, it's it's kind of like, I think when you first become a parent, you think, like, I'm not doing screen time. Like, we're not. We're not ever doing that. And then you kind of hit a point where you're like, I think I need a little bit of screen time here and there to help me actually get life done. I wonder what people like. People 100 years ago, I guess they just kind of, like, let their kids get hurt a lot more. Like, I feel like if. If. If your kid is just, like, playing in the backyard while you're trying to, you know, nest and set up baby stuff. Right. Like, if you're.

[A]

Well, they probably didn't do as nearly as much prep as we do nowadays.

[B]

That's true. And people. But people used to have, like, seven kids.

[A]

Do you think kids just, like, started to tag along with the. More like. But that is one of those things where it's like, it just takes a lot longer if they're, like, in our space and we're trying to do those things.

[B]

Okay, let's jump to talking about the recent pregnancy appointment we had. This is the final ultrasound.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Of this pregnancy. What big news did we learn?

[A]

Well, I feel like the last scan you have for a lot of big reasons. A lot of them is, like, to estimate the baby's size, which was going to be a big factor in finalizing our birth plan.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You want to make sure the baby's in a good position for. For birth. Your placenta is in a good position, like, all those things, and everything really looks good. He's head down. His. He's like, pretty much fully posterior. We had that problem with our first, like, going sunny side up is what they call it, and it's just not a favorable position to, like, deliver a baby in. Obviously, he can still flip. I don't think he'll flip. Not head down, but he could flip face up again. Still. They kind of tell you also, like, if you're dilated, you're effacement, which is like your thick thickness of your cervix and your station that the baby's in, like, in your pelvis. And we also found out that our doctor is going to be out of town. We knew she was going to be out of town for a period of time.

[B]

Yeah. Just from when you're. Just the. The week. The 38. She's only out of town when you're 38 weeks.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So the baby comes before. Then we're good. After. Then we're good. But in that time zone in that timeline when she's gone. What. What are you thinking about?

[A]

That it would be okay. I. I'm kind. I keep saying I'm like trauma bonded to this doctor because she delivered our daughter. And I just like had this like, vision of just like this redemptive birth with her because she was amazing. And I feel like a lot of people that have gone through situations like this, like, where you've gone through a loss with a doctor have like polarizing experiences where it's like, I never want to see you again. I'm associating you with this horrible time. Or it's like, I really just want, like, I feel like you were like pivotal in such a dark time. Like, I want to now have like a redemptive experience with her. Like, I trust her so much through going through that experience. So it's like, I really would love for her to be the one delivering our baby, but I'm also like, it's just out of our hands. Like, if the baby decides to come then, which it's like he very likely could come when she's back or even even potentially before she leaves. It's not a huge deal, but the rest of our, our like, OB team is fully on board with like RV back, given every other detail that we've given them. The baby's still measuring like right at 56 percentile, so that's great. So yesterday he was six pounds and 15 ounces, which is very normal. So he'll probably be. Our doctor was like, we're expecting like seven, seven and a half pounds. She said eight at the most. I was like, no, let's say seven and seven.

[B]

Yeah. I wasn't expecting for her to say that her baby was just shy of seven pounds.

[A]

Really.

[B]

That was pretty shocking to me. I thought the baby was gonna weigh like five pounds and something ounces.

[A]

You thought we were gonna have a five pound baby?

[B]

I don't know. Like, I thought since we still have potentially like two, you know, two, three weeks, like I thought, oh, we're. Yeah, we're at like five. Because I thought they grow by like again, it's been so long. But I thought it was going to be like a, you know, two pound growth in the last, like two weeks.

[A]

I'm gaining like two pounds every week.

[B]

No, you're not.

[A]

No, but no, I don't think she's like, I'm not expecting, like, I don't know. I think he's just going to be perfectly average and that will be great. And he feels a Lot smaller than our other babies, like in my belly, like he does. And the fluid looks good. The thing that was a little weird is that my blood pressure was high and that's never been the case. And I know that's something they take really, really seriously at the end of pregnancy. Like your blood pressure is like something that is like, they will take a baby out really quick if they think your blood pressure is high because it's related to preeclampsia, which is pretty serious, which I've never had before, but it was high when she took it. And then they're like, okay, well we need to check again before you leave. And then we left. We didn't even check again. Like no one remembered. And so then I called back to the clinic and I like talked to my doctor and she was like, well, if you have a cuff at home, just take your blood pressure and if it's normal, it's. Then we're fine. We'll see you at your next appointment. If it's high, then you need to come back in and also do some blood work. And we just did it with our at home cuff and it was normal. And I don't have any other like major symptoms of like, I think the symptoms are like a really bad headache. Vision changes, things like that. And I didn't have those. So hopefully everything's fine with that. That's the thing that really could change our birth plan, I guess, is if it for some reason ends up getting high. But that was weird. Maybe she just took it really. She did take it really fast, but it's never been high before, so that was weird. And it wasn't like a little bit high. It was like really high.

[B]

How did it feel to have the membrane sweep yesterday?

[A]

You know, they've never like. I feel like if they're gonna work, they're probably more painful.

[B]

Yeah. Cause you didn't really react to it. I thought you were gonna be in a lot of pain. So I came up next to you to hold your hand and you didn't even like really flinch.

[A]

I mean, I've done it before and I just knew what to expect.

[B]

Cause I've heard a lot of women have severe pain when that happens.

[A]

I think it probably just depends all on like your baby's pain position. Yeah, like he's still kind of high. He's at a. He was at a negative 2 station, so maybe that made it less painful. I mean, I don't know. Also, I feel like I'm having contraction

[B]

right now, like literally right now.

[A]

You're not real.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But, yeah, I feel like they can. It's like they're gonna hurt really bad if it's gonna send you into labor. Or they, like, don't hurt that bad if it's not the real thing. Or maybe it's because it was already dilated to, like, a three and a half that it didn't hur. I don't know. Yeah, she didn't have to really do much. It's already open.

[B]

Yeah. I'm still shocked. I'm just amazed at the human body and the fact that. The fact that she could actually feel our baby and just how casually she was like, all right, membrane sweep's done. I can feel your baby. You're at three and a half centimeters dilated. Okay, first of all, how do they know three and a half centimeters?

[A]

Still amazing.

[B]

They're just like. They just know off of feel.

[A]

I know. That does. Amazing.

[B]

How do you. How do you know a measurement just based off of. With your. Your hand?

[A]

They're amazing. I don't know.

[B]

There's no divide.

[A]

My friends is a labor and delivery nurse, and I'm like, how do you know? She's like, you just do it a lot.

[B]

You just do it a lot. But then, like, what's your baseline? Do they have. Do they have, like. Do they practice membrane sweep?

[A]

They stretch like that.

[B]

But, like, how. See, if, like, I'm going in dark and I'm, like, feeling around my feet. Like, I would have. No idea. Like, I know my. At 5 centimeters. Am I at 2 centimeters? Like, I guess they just practice a lot on a doll. I don't know.

[A]

They probably have, like.

[B]

Is there a membrane sweep doll in their training program?

[A]

Not sweet, but, like, to check dilation, I'm sure they have some type of

[B]

model, like a mannequin. Yeah, it's all right. All right, class, take out your notebooks. We're going to be doing membrane sweeps. Who's up first? Like, is it like that?

[A]

Yeah, because it is only a centimeter. Like, that is so impressive.

[B]

I'm still.

[A]

I've seen those mannequins where they're, like, delivering babies.

[B]

I would have thought there would be some sort of, like, AI measurement tool that then you have to, like, put on your fingers and then. And then it has, like, a magnet, so then it can, like, tell the distance between your fingers or something. Like the fact that they just.

[A]

Matt, babies have been born since the beginning of time, obviously.

[B]

Yeah, of course.

[A]

AI, but, like, we.

[B]

We live in a world where there's driverless vehicles now. So I thought that there might be some more advanced technology for the measurements. There's not. Apparently there's not. Maybe there is. And. And everyone's just still using their fingers and saying, oh, three and a half. All right, we're good. You know?

[A]

Yeah. Also, none of that stuff. I don't know what this says about me or my body. None of that stuff has ever bothered me that much. Like, people are like, I don't want to get a cervical check because it hurts. Like, that has never bothered me. I don't know if it's a. The location of my cervix. I don't know if it's. I literally don't. I can't tell you what it is. It's just never really bothered me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And getting a membrane spoon has never really bothered me either. So I don't know. Like, it doesn't feel good.

[B]

I do think you have a higher pain tolerance than other people, though.

[A]

Say that. But I'm like, based off of what

[B]

I think you do. I've seen you. I've seen you do some crazy stuff.

[A]

Anyway, so, yeah, I got the membrane sweep and then just felt like, you know, the typical crampy. The typical. And then my. My contractions are basically only at night.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So that's great.

[B]

Yeah. And also, you know, we had what could have been our last date night since before we have this baby, and we went to Dentai Fung, which was really good, actually. I thought I was not gonna like it, but I. I didn't like it.

[A]

Yeah. You were saying it wasn't me. Good. I was like. It was so good. Matt didn't like that. You have at Den Tai, you, like, order on a card.

[B]

I don't like that.

[A]

Why?

[B]

I like to just tell the person what I want. I.

[A]

Well, I think the reason it is that way is because it's family style.

[B]

Yeah. It confuses me, though. I'm like. I feel like I'm doing homework, like, marking down answers on the.

[A]

You don't like family style?

[B]

Yeah. Has anybody been to a restaurant like that where you order on a piece of paper? You know, it's. I think a lot of certain Asian restaurants have that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like sushi rolls. Like, we've been to, like, a sushi place where the sushi.

[A]

That's kind of what Din Tai Fung is. It's elevated Asian takeout.

[B]

Are you serious? That's what it is.

[A]

I'm just saying that.

[B]

I don't know because we went to that place. Is it called, like, A subway thing where they like.

[A]

That was horrible.

[B]

What's it called where they bring the rolls out?

[A]

Conveyor belts.

[B]

Yeah, the conveyor belt.

[A]

Awful.

[B]

No, but I thought it was fun. I like that.

[A]

It was a really fun concept, and it would have been amazing if it was actually good sushi. It was disgusting sushi.

[B]

Well, dentai fung was really.

[A]

That was called listeria sushi.

[B]

I. I thought the food was going to be bad because I ate your leftovers. When you went to dentai, you ate

[A]

it cold the next day. That's not.

[B]

I didn't use any of the.

[A]

Any of the chili oil, the ginger, the soy sauce, the vinegar.

[B]

I didn't use any of that.

[A]

Messed up. You need all the fixings.

[B]

So this time I really covered everything in the good stuff, and, boy, was, was I impressed.

[A]

So good. I want it back now.

[B]

Especially the mango shave ice. That was good.

[A]

Yeah, it's so good.

[B]

Yeah. Really good dessert.

[A]

I ate those spicy noodles. You know, they say spicy stuff can put you into labor. Didn't do it.

[B]

Didn't do it.

[A]

Didn't do it.

[B]

But maybe you're. Maybe your body's just not ready.

[A]

It's just not ready yet. It's just not ready. Yeah, it's just practicing a lot, which is really great for me.

[B]

Just practicing.

[A]

I know. I actually don't like that it's doing that because, you know, the risk of a vbac is uterine rupture. And I'm like, my uterus. I'm like, I need my uterus to rest. Yeah, rest. So you can handle this. It's gonna be a lot for you. Okay, you have an incision in there. Thank you to Cash App for sponsoring this portion of today's episode.

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[A]

It's been making me so grouchy.

[B]

Awful. It's. It's. It's like looking at my phone today while I was outside, I was like, why am I so hot? I'm like, oh, it's 107. That's why I'm hot. That's why I'm sweating through my shirt.

[A]

It's cruel. Yeah, it's unusual.

[B]

What. What are you doing to. To get over that?

[A]

Just. I get really grouchy it's so hot.

[B]

Especially with kids, too. Because, you know, you don't want to put your kid into a hot car.

[A]

I know. It is really scary.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So the cars get so hot are like, our car will say what the internal temperature is. I don't know how accurate it is, but usually it's like 163.

[B]

I keep telling myself, you could literally.

[A]

This is an oven.

[B]

I've really wanted to, like, either fry eggs or bake cookies inside our car because I've heard that people have done that, and I know that we could,

[A]

like, let's see, think about it. What, inside our car? Not inside. That would.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Like, on the dash, like, if I look at our Tesla, it says 160.

[A]

You know, cookies are baked at.

[B]

If I don't have temperature control on inside Tesla, it'll get, like, to 160 degrees.

[A]

I just said that, like.

[B]

Yeah, I know, but that's like. That's still really hot.

[A]

Not enough to bake a cookie.

[B]

I think it. I think it could technically bake it. Not like. Well, it's not going to be perfectly done.

[A]

Do you know what temperature ovens are when you bake a cookie?

[B]

Like 350.

[A]

Okay, that's.

[B]

Yeah. I'm not. I'm not an idiot.

[A]

I need a cookie right now.

[B]

Okay, babe, we've got a dog now. How do you think we're going to introduce this dog to our baby?

[A]

I mean, I already told certain friends that are like, dog people. I'm like, when you come over postpartum, just, like, make sure you show Pretzel extra love and, like, play with her.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because obviously she's probably gonna feel, like, a little less attention. But I'm also really glad that we have her for our toddlers. Like, they're gonna have a lot of fun still with her. They play with her all the time.

[B]

I like how they've incorporated her into their play.

[A]

Literally, today they're playing a game with her and they're like, no, Pretzel. That's not how we play it. Like, I think that she knows English.

[B]

What was the game?

[A]

It was with. He was stacking water bottles and she kept knocking them down. It was just dumb.

[B]

I think it's funny that oftentimes I'll be a monster and chase them, and then sometimes Pretzel will get to be the monster. Yeah. But I don't know. I don't think Pretzel really knows that she's the monster. But she is. She's so. That. That's hilarious.

[A]

I Think we'll probably just, like, when. I mean, a lot of our. We have nieces and nephews and then also a lot of friends with babies that come over to our house.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, we sometimes just, like, let her get a sniff in, and then we have to really pull her back because she's a puppy still. She's very eager and excited.

[B]

The tricky thing is teaching her how to appropriately swim in a pool because she's such a great swimmer. She loves the water, but when our kids are in the water, she's. She's like, scratch. She scratched me before.

[A]

When she's swimming, she's doggy paddling.

[B]

And so, like, I've told them to, like, you know, keep, keep, keep your distance from pretzel. Don't, don't, like, don't. Don't get in her line of spot. She's a solo swimmer, but, yeah, it's tricky to. To navigate the whole swimming with a dog thing because she just kind of scratches you, you know?

[A]

Good thing we're not putting our baby in the pool for a while.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Baby's not going in the pool.

[A]

Actually, you know what?

[B]

What?

[A]

He probably could because it's so warm.

[B]

Like, you're right.

[A]

But there's a lot of chemicals for their little skin for a little bit. We'll have to just look what's recommended. But it's a great temperature for.

[B]

Yeah, right away. But, yeah, I mean, that water is

[A]

probably about the same temperature as my womb.

[B]

Yeah, it's warm. It's. It's warm water for sure.

[A]

Did you hear, actually, at our appointment, the lady, when she was measuring our amniotic fluid, she was like, they only need, like, 2 centimeters to breathe. To breathe through that. I mean, obviously they're getting oxygen also from the umbilical cord, but I was like, that is crazy. There doesn't need to be that much fluid in there. I feel like I don't have that much fluid. Like, I got a lot fluffier. Not fluffier, but, like, more swollen.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

With my first pregnancy, then my second, and then this one, I feel like I'm, like, less. I'm definitely still swollen, but not like I was the previous one. So I feel like your body just adjusts, like, gets used to pregnancy more.

[B]

I was watching a video from our first, you know, first time around. You were pregnant with Griffin. You looked completely different.

[A]

I mean, I'm definitely feeling like in these last few weeks, like, definitely more so. Which I don't care.

[B]

But it is crazy, though, how every single pregnancy is different.

[A]

Every single pregnancy is different. Yeah. Every single baby's different. Yeah. It's gonna be so interesting to see how, like, his little personality type, like, in my head, I feel like I already know him, obviously. I'm like, he's really chill and he's really funny.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Those are, like, the two things that I'm, like, locked in on.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

He's a chill and funny dude, but that was actually funny. His. All of his measurements are very consistent with, like, 56 percentile. I think his head was a little smaller. But they also said it's kind of hard for them to measure the head when he's already, like, kind of engaged on there. But they did say he has a big belly. And I was like, his belly is, like, 90th percentile. I was like, that's amazing.

[B]

He's getting a lot of nutrients in there.

[A]

That's the other thing. I can't be bothered to cook anymore. I don't want to do it.

[B]

I know. We've been getting some good takeout. Been getting salad and go. That's a local spot in Arizona.

[A]

I salad and go once. You've just been getting.

[B]

I go to salad and go a lot. Where have you been getting your food?

[A]

I've been eating a lot of leftovers, but I've been making you grill, like, every night.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I mean, grilling is easy, though.

[A]

We got Shake Shack one night.

[B]

Shake Shack is so good.

[A]

We're mooching off of our friends because, like, we have a birthday party, like, every evening. So I'm like, we'll eat whatever they have at the birthday party.

[B]

That'll be fun.

[A]

We're scavengers. Our fridge is empty.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

No milk.

[B]

Abby.

[A]

Nothing.

[B]

I. Like, I just had a realization moment today. I. I seriously feel like a month ago I was saying out loud to our family, would it be so cool when our. Our kids, C.J. and August, are, like, grown up and can play together? Like, this is before they're even alive. This is while they're in the womb. Like, I just remember verbally saying that this and saying to my parents, wow, this can be crazy that Caleb's going to have a kid and I'm going to have a kid that are just, like, basically the same age.

[A]

And now they're best buddies, and now

[B]

here we are where they're best buddies and. And they're both turning three. Like, it just the. All the cliches, all the, wow. They grow up so fast. Like, that's so true. And I'm finding myself saying all the Same stuff my parents said when I was a kid, you know? Okay, when you're a kid and you go to a party like some. With. With family or even. Even friends, and you haven't seen people in a year, every single time. What did people say to you as a kid? Did you get hit with a contraction?

[A]

It's actually really strong.

[B]

Wait, was it a kick?

[A]

No, it's a contract.

[B]

A contraction. What? How. And it's just. It's just your uterus cry.

[A]

I'm so over this.

[B]

How would you describe it? Feel it let me Feel as hard as her. Holy cow.

[A]

He's just getting.

[B]

Abby, do you.

[A]

Please tell me you actually feel that.

[B]

I can feel it.

[A]

This is why I'm so tired.

[B]

I'm so. And this is what's hitting you at 1am when you're trying to sleep. No wonder you have to take unisum to knock yourself out. I'm just glad that's pregnancy safe. The unisum. There'd be no way for you to sleep with this.

[A]

It still wakes me up.

[B]

Is it still going on?

[A]

This has been a longer one.

[B]

How long does it last? How many seconds is that going on?

[A]

Still going on. I feel like this is a long one. Normally they're really short. Hurt.

[B]

Goodness. And are you just feeling it? Is it just pushing? Is it just pushing baby down? Like, do you just feel the baby going?

[A]

I don't. I don't. Sometimes it feels downward, but more than anything, it just feels like it's just like closing in on itself. That's why I'm like, my uterus needs to take a break because she's susceptible to a rupture. So I'm like, take it easy, girl. This isn't real. It's like, literally, it keeps sounding these alarms. Like, it's like, it's time to go. And then people keep saying, now you're not gonna know when it's time. It's like, no, I'll know because then they'll be consistent and they'll hurt and they'll be like, a steady amount apart, you know?

[B]

Are you nervous for the V back?

[A]

I think I'll be nervous once we, like, go to the, like, it's actually go time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think right now I'm just kind of like. I always say that's the blessing of the end of pregnancy. You're so uncomfortable that, like, labor sounds delightful.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That. It sounds like a better option than continuing as you are, you know?

[B]

Have you changed your mind on the epidural at all? What was my Mind, I feel like you were team. Get the epidural.

[A]

Yeah, I'm still team.

[B]

And for a little bit, you were like, maybe I don't want to.

[A]

I think I'll probably still wait until the goal is to get it. When I'm, like, 6 or 7 centimeters dilated.

[B]

I did find it hilarious. Our doula was like, which, you know, I respect this. This thought process of, like, it's natural to not have the epidural and just go in. Natural. Like, I respect that. But I did find it funny when our. When our own doula was like, I will say, though, I got the epidural. It was pretty freaking awesome.

[A]

I know.

[B]

And I'm like, all right.

[A]

Like, I saw someone today. They're like, I. This is like. When people ask about my birth plan, this is what. This is what I tell them. And it's like, you know that game the Sims? I never played that, but it's like, this was my plan is like. She's like. It's like this video game character. We have to put this on the screen because I'm not gonna describe it. Well, she's, like, pregnant, and then she, like, turns around, and then she's, like, skinny and holding a baby. And it was like. I was like, yeah, that's my plan. I just want to. She's like, this was what it sounds like your birth plan is. I'm like, yeah, I just want to have fun. I want the baby to come.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I want it to be redemptive, and I want to have fun. Fun. So let's just. Let's just let it be that way. I don't know. I think I'm just like, whatever will be, will be. Quesaras raw, right?

[B]

What does that mean? Quesaras?

[A]

It means whatever will be, will be. The future is not ours to see that.

[B]

That's the definition of that.

[A]

Please tell me you know the song.

[B]

How do you sing this?

[A]

Whatever Will be.

[B]

Is this for musical?

[A]

You're kidding me. You don't know this song? Addie, do you know the song from you. I've been singing this before.

[B]

I've heard you sing it. I've heard you sing it, or I've heard you say it? I don't know if I've heard you sing it, but I don't know it's what it's from.

[A]

It's just a famous song.

[B]

The man who Knew. The man who Knew Too Much. Have you seen the movie?

[A]

No. It's just a famous song.

[B]

Did your grandpa teach you this? Your grandma heard you how did you learn this?

[A]

I think my mom did. You want to bring her in here? This episode's gone off the rails. I don't want to do this. I don't work.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Let me out of here.

[B]

If you guys didn't know, Abby will be taking a maternity leave. She'll be taking some time off from the podcast. Her friends will be joining her podcast.

[A]

We've already filmed enough Unplanned.

[B]

So then, yeah, we've had some super cool guests on the show. So very excited for you guys to get to see who those special guests are. But in case someone's like, oh, my gosh, how am I gonna get through Wednesday without you guys? You still can. We'll just have some cool guest episodes.

[A]

We need to practice right here on the podcast. What are you gonna say when I'm in labor but I don't. Epidural. Or if the epidural doesn't work like it should, like it did the first time?

[B]

I'm gonna say your body knows exactly what it needs to do.

[A]

Yes. That's a good one.

[B]

I'm gonna say that you're. With each contraction, you're one step closer to meeting our baby.

[A]

That's a good one.

[B]

And I'm gonna say you're a badass. I'm gonna say you're.

[A]

That's. That's great. I want to hear that.

[B]

I'm gonna say, go, go, go, go. And then I'll play like that.

[A]

That would piss me off.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Rap music would piss me off. I like to listen to, like. I like to listen to throwback worship music. Yeah, that, like, is, like, chanty. Yeah, like, give me an example. No, that's too slow. That's too slow. No, I need. I need one that's like, my God's not dead. Yeah, that one from heaven. Yeah, that's the kind of thing I need. So start playing that. That helped me a lot, actually. That's what I was listening. Just put it in my headphones and just let me be like, throw back Christian.

[B]

Yeah, that's what you like.

[A]

Not just throw back Christian. Throwback worship. And then also, I just want you to say, good job. Yeah, I really feel like that's something that really resonates with me. Like, say it right now.

[B]

Good job.

[A]

No, say, no. No, say like, you're doing a good job.

[B]

You're doing a good job. Job.

[A]

No, but say, like you mean it.

[B]

You know what? I.

[A]

This is good that we're practicing this, because I don't want to do this when I'm in.

[B]

Yes. Okay, so let's. Let's review. I'm going to be saying you're. I'm say, hey, babe, with every contraction, you're one step closer to meeting our baby. Not you're.

[A]

No, it's got to have more of, like, a breath. Like, you practice, you pretend that you're me right now.

[B]

Oh, my uterus.

[A]

Ah. See, I'm not gonna be talking.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And then I'm gonna be like, okay, hey, you're doing. You're doing a really good job. Good job. You're so strong. I'm proud of you. That's what I want to hear. I want you to be like, good job, like a coach.

[B]

Okay, I'm writing this down right now. So we've got, like, when I'm done

[A]

with a contraction, I want to hear good job. Like a football coach.

[B]

Things to say to Abby while she's giving birth.

[A]

You can even throw in there, like a good job. Good job. I was gonna say buddy, but that just doesn't feel right.

[B]

Okay. Okay, wait.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Why, buddy? Why would you want that?

[A]

I feel like if you were to say breathe, that would really piss me off for some reason.

[B]

Why would me saying breathe piss you off?

[A]

Because I'm like, well, duh, I have to breathe.

[B]

Okay? So don't say anything stupid.

[A]

Don't say anything.

[B]

Like, don't say anything. That's just, like, obvious. Yeah, but then, like, why is saying good job. Like, why is that so obvious, though?

[A]

Like, you're doing such a good job. Saying you're doing such a good job, that would make you feel really good.

[B]

Such a good job.

[A]

Yeah. And also, just so you know, all this is susceptible to change. Change.

[B]

You could completely decide in the moment, like, shut up.

[A]

Maybe I want silence.

[B]

I don't want to hear any of that. I actually did.

[A]

That's how I feel about touching. Like, touching is sometimes good, and touching is sometimes really bad when you're in pain.

[B]

I honestly just think I was, like, nervous because there was so much blood, and I had never seen you in so much pain before that. I was going, abby, you're so strong. You're so brave. You're so strong.

[A]

You're so.

[B]

I like that. And I sounded. I thought I sounded annoying. And everybody in the comments on our first vlog, you know what?

[A]

Those people have not experienced super pubic pressure.

[B]

They haven't. But they were all like, wow, my husband was saying that and pissed me off.

[A]

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[A]

I know a lot of women like rap music and like, during. When they're in labor. I didn't want that. I wanted our God is an awesome guy.

[B]

Like, what about. What about like, like Justin Bieber fever.

[A]

I don't think that's me. Yeah, not me. Also, this was when it was like getting intense or.

[B]

Or I could pretend.

[A]

And then I wanted hypnobirthing in my ears.

[B]

Yeah, because then you listen to the hypnobirth and she's like, with every breath, you're one.

[A]

See, it's crazy that you're saying that because in my head, she wasn't talking what she was like, I was legitimately hypnotized. Mama.

[B]

Just breathe. Breathe and know that with every contraction, you're one step closer to meeting your baby.

[A]

See, like that right there is doing something right now.

[B]

My body. Speak these words. Let them overwhelm your body.

[A]

See, right now you're actually transporting me.

[B]

Your body knows exactly what.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. I think that's good.

[B]

It's Such a calming voice.

[A]

Put that on, too.

[B]

Would that piss you off if I try to do that?

[A]

I don't mean you doing that.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That's for her.

[B]

We'll put on the hypnobirth.

[A]

So we have three skills right now that you know.

[B]

Okay. Okay.

[A]

And then here's what I want you to do as far as physical touch. I want you to do that magical thing that the doula taught you.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

With my hips.

[B]

Yes. Yes. The squeeze.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Relie the pressure on the hip.

[A]

Also, when it's, like, not that intense, but it's like early labor. I just want you to play with my hair. It feels so good.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And then. Yeah, that's probably it. Maybe in between contractions. Give me a drink of water, some ice. We already lost the freaking birth combination that the lady gave us, so she said she was gonna bring some to the hospital with us.

[B]

Dang it. How did we lose those? Honestly, I blame our kids. I don't think we lost them. I think they played with them and put them somewhere that we can't find.

[A]

They do look fun.

[B]

Or it was Pretzel. Maybe Pretzel ate the birth combs. Probably Pretzel ate your shoe today.

[A]

Yeah. Our kids can do no wrong that dog can do.

[B]

So that dog has ruined. You know what I saw? I didn't tell you this. I caught our dog chewing up our rug again last night.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

After I. After I took a shower.

[A]

I caught her on the freaking dining table like a billy goat. Did you know that? Twice.

[B]

Two times.

[A]

She was on her table, standing there, just like.

[B]

Was she eating food off the table?

[A]

There was no food on the table.

[B]

She was on the dining table.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Why?

[A]

She's the billy goat.

[B]

Was there a toy up there? Was there something that she wouldn't.

[A]

She's anything but a dog. She's a goat. She's an otter.

[B]

She's a billy goat. She's an otter.

[A]

She's a hound.

[B]

She's a hound. Yeah. That is hilarious.

[A]

Did you feel like.

[B]

Wait.

[A]

So do you feel prepared now for labor? Like, do you feel like, you know what I need? Do you know what I want?

[B]

I think I do. All I have ever.

[A]

Touch my belly.

[B]

Don't touch your belly. Okay, wait. Why not?

[A]

Because I don't even like it when you just, like, felt that contraction. Your hand lingered for too long. Because my skin is stretched so tight that it's just, like, you might actually rupture it.

[B]

Goodness. Okay, I've got that written down.

[A]

You're not actually gonna do that, but

[B]

I. I'll do whatever you want.

[A]

Don't ever touch my belly.

[B]

I'll do whatever you want me to do.

[A]

Here's the thing. I actually feel like I do need to say this. This.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And this might need to get cut. But I just need you to know this while it's on my mind, okay? I know that when I'm in that gown, I'm not going to have a bra on or underwear on. And I know that you're going to know that, and I know that you can. Absolutely.

[B]

Abby. You really think I'm beginning.

[A]

I think you might.

[B]

I think you might be handy while you're giving birth.

[A]

I don't trust you with my boots.

[B]

You think I am?

[A]

I don't trust you with my boots.

[B]

With your.

[A]

And here's the thing that actually made me so mad that I think about a lot. At the hospital, they didn't let me wear a sports bra. And I wanted to because I knew that they were gonna leak.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Because whenever my boobs were. Are free, they just decide to just, like, I don't know, release something, especially in labor.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And they're like, no, you can't. They told me that I couldn't wear a bra.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

And I was like, please. And so then when Griffin's born and all those pictures, my boobs are just, like, wet circles. And I just felt. I don't like that stimulation. I don't like that touch of my nipple on the gown. And I had it. And so I just need you to know that.

[B]

Yeah, I. Yeah, of course.

[A]

There's no touching the belly.

[B]

No touchy.

[A]

The boobs only. Certainly you're not gonna want to touch down there.

[B]

Only the hips.

[A]

Only the hips. Yes, that's right.

[B]

And only touching her baby to the lip or the baby.

[A]

My hair. Remember, you're doing that.

[B]

And play with you. I'm writing that down. I've got to. Do not.

[A]

Don't touch anything else.

[B]

Do not touch Abby's belly boobs. Or. What was the other thing?

[A]

Butt.

[B]

Butt. No touching your butt. But if I'm touching your hips, though, that's basically your butt. No, I'm literally touching your butt when I'm doing the hips.

[A]

Yeah. And when you. Yeah, and that's the problem is sometimes at night, when you're doing that to relieve pressure, your hands drift, and that's not what it's about. It's not what it's about even a little bit.

[B]

Okay? So I have. Do not touch belly boobs. Butt. Do touch hips and hair.

[A]

Hips, hair. You can actually even scratch my back. That sounds fine, too.

[B]

Back scratches are welcome. Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What else?

[A]

And just remember what to say to

[B]

me and what to play such a good job. With every contraction, you're one step closer to meeting her baby.

[A]

Yes. You're doing such a good job. I like that. I like that. Say you're so tough. You can say that. I liked earlier when you said you're a badass ass.

[B]

I think that would be a badass. I'm putting that in all caps.

[A]

And then here's a good way to

[B]

tell Matt a badass.

[A]

If I. If I look at you, like, touching

[B]

your ass, just saying that you're bad. What?

[A]

Don't confuse that. Yeah, no, like, if I look at you like this, like, then that's like, knock it off.

[B]

Knock it off.

[A]

And it's not even, like, not. And don't even make a joke about knocking it off. Just, like, instantly change your behavior.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And then if it's. If. If I look at you and I, like, kind of just give you one of these, like, a little bit, that means that was okay. But doesn't mean do it again. Yeah, because sometimes if I smile at you, you get really excited. Just do it over and over and over. But you could bring it up again later.

[B]

Wait, what am I allowed to bring up again later?

[A]

If I smile at you and you, like, crack a joke, but if it's a joke, that's. I'm like, I don't want to hear that right now. Then I'm just gonna.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

Or I'm not gonna look at you at all.

[B]

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

[A]

This is good. I feel like I'm glad we hashed this out because I just don't want to harbor resentment in those times.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

Oh, and don't get on your phone.

[B]

No being on the phone.

[A]

And if you get food, don't bring it around me.

[B]

Don't bring the food. No food around you.

[A]

And don't take a nap. Don't unless given permission.

[B]

This is really good. Like, no, I'm. I'm glad I have.

[A]

I feel like this is, like, the explicit, explicit instructions.

[B]

It's so helpful.

[A]

So this is good.

[B]

We're setting expectations for the bird Earth.

[A]

I'm glad we're doing this. And I think that, oh, I do really want you to hold the baby. Like, I want you to do skin to skin while I get stitches. I don't want to hold the baby while I get stitches. I want you to hold the baby.

[B]

Okay. I've got all this. Do they were trying to have me

[A]

hold the baby while I was getting stitches. And I was like, excuse me.

[B]

I'm hopeful this time that you won't tear and that you won't need to get stitches. You think you're gonna tear?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Why do you think you'll tear? Tear?

[A]

Because have you seen what the size of a baby's head is?

[B]

Yeah, that's true.

[A]

Have you seen the nature of maybe

[B]

if we just put where that's coming out of? Maybe it. You know, I don't know.

[A]

No, you know what people do is they do those massages to help. Yeah.

[B]

They like try to stretch. Stretch the area.

[A]

Yeah. And I'm like, I actually, I'm opting out of that. Up to 85 to 90 of women tear. 85 to 90.

[B]

Here's just blowing my mind. Okay. Like 80, okay, 85, 90, whatever, tear.

[A]

And guess what? That's not the worst part.

[B]

Well, what did ladies do hundreds of years ago?

[A]

Like, they got stitches, but, like, you're

[B]

telling me that people knew how to stitch people up.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

500 years ago.

[A]

Think about war.

[B]

I guess you're right. But I guess people just died. Like, think about all the infection that could have happened.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Especially if you, like, tear to your butt and then that it's all mixed up in there.

[A]

Seriously.

[B]

That's awful.

[A]

That's why I know that women are tougher.

[B]

I do think you pro. Yeah, I would say you have a. Harder than me. Like, giving birth is pretty. Pretty, pretty.

[A]

No, but it's like, I'm excited to do it. Like, I'm pumped, I'm amped.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I. I want to do it. Yeah, I want to do it. Like, I'm like, stoked. For me, like, when we were talking with our doula about like, what is like birth to you, Matt said trauma, I said game day. And I'm the. And so I'm like, it's like, put me in. Because I feel like I. It's true. Like, our bodies are uniquely created to do this. It's not like it's not supposed to happen. And. Yeah. I mean, I just hope that it would be really cool if it was just a first degree tear this time. That'd be great.

[B]

Yeah. And it sucked that when you got your stitches, they had to do it again.

[A]

They had to do it twice.

[B]

You had to get them done twice. So that's not happening. Let's manifest that. Not happening this time.

[A]

No, one time is enough.

[B]

Yeah. We don't need that.

[A]

Yeah. But you know what? I didn't Have a ton. My recovery from that really wasn't bad either. So I feel like this is better that you know what to do. The other expectation is that whenever the baby cries, you're bringing the baby to me, and I'm not getting out of bed to get the baby. And I feel like, you know that one anyway. You already knew that. Oh, don't let them give the baby formula.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Do not give baby formula. We're not doing that.

[A]

We're not doing that. Only if it's like, we end up, like, I feel like I could just pump it out, and I actually already have stuff.

[B]

If a nurse tries to give our baby formula, I'm like, walk up to. I'm to smack it out of their hand. Get that out of here. I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna yell that too.

[A]

I think that would be good just

[B]

to intimidate them, you know?

[A]

Yeah, I think that would be good. Yeah, we'll just. I'll just ask questions.

[B]

She's gonna be like, we're just supplementing the breastfeeding.

[A]

If she's like, hey, their blood sugars are dropping. It's like, hey, you know what? My wife has prepared something for this exact occasion with her own breasts. She has made colostrum for this exact occasion. So that's good. The things that I.

[B]

You really think I'm gonna say that to a nurse? My wife, it's your baby, with her own breasts, has prepared colostrum for this very moment. So you don't need to be bringing any formula up in here. You want me to say.

[A]

I could just say we actually have prepared colostrum. That we can do in this case.

[B]

Okay. Sounds good. I can say that.

[A]

Okay. Yeah. And if a lactation consultant tries to grope me, what do you say?

[B]

Oh, God. Well, that. Well, because when the last time we worked with the lactation consultant, our. Our baby kicked you in the C section incision. Yep.

[A]

That wasn't good. I almost yeeted our baby off of the hospital bed because of such things. It felt like a hot knife entering my abdomen.

[B]

Are you gonna let. If we ever have a lactation consultant come in, are you gonna let them see that you're using a nipple shield or.

[A]

No, I think this time I'm gonna to be my own lactation consultant.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's the third journey. I feel like, if anything, I would let them tell me what flange size is. Like, my perfect size.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Because that little template that we used the other day didn't feel the most accurate. That was dehumanizing. I didn't like that you saw that. I actually felt embarrassed.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Putting your nipple up to the different

[A]

flanges, it was gross.

[B]

I was gross. Just finding something that fits your body.

[A]

I almost can't make eye contact with you right now. I'm a little embarrassed.

[B]

Why?

[A]

Cuz it's gross.

[B]

I don't think it's gross. I think it's cool.

[A]

I'm like, those girls are like 15 mm. I'm like, you're so cute. I need the biggest size. Anyway, thank you to Chili Pad for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. Boy, is it hot in Arizona.

[B]

So hot.

[A]

My gosh, so hot. I don't know how anyone's doing it without a chili pad. If I'm totally honest.

[B]

Now that we've switched to the chili pad, it's. There's no way we can go back. It's so nice getting into a cooled bed and it's just. And you wake up in the morning, you got the warm blankets on you and then the bed is cold.

[A]

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[A]

Two weeks.

[B]

Weeks off, which Abby's taking two weeks off. And we'll be having guest episodes on Unplanned and then on Always Here.

[A]

We'll have guest episodes that I'm in that I've just already filmed.

[B]

They're pre filmed. And then on Always Here. Are there any pre filmed episodes?

[A]

Yeah, there's pre filmed and then there's one week that my friends are gonna. Nice step in.

[B]

Okay, so there you go.

[A]

Let's also say we've offered her more than two weeks. They've offered me more than two weeks.

[B]

Yes. Abby's just, she's a workhorse. She, she's amazing.

[A]

Well, it just messes everything up. Up.

[B]

Yeah. And you're, you're popular lady. You're very, you know, people like being around you.

[A]

So I don't wanna, I don't want to create more work for myself now and I also don't want to create more work for other people.

[B]

Yeah, I hear what you're saying.

[A]

So there's that.

[B]

This is from Kylie. She said, for Abby, any advice or hacks for being pregnant with other toddlers running around? What are you doing to help shows turn on, Turn on Disney Pl?

[A]

I mean, that's. I, I gotta be so for real because I feel, I feel like that is something that I actively feel, feel guilty about at this stage. But I'm also like, I think, you

[B]

know, we've kind of hit that point where our kids have grown up a lot. They, you know, they get a ton of play time in the day.

[A]

They do play a lot, but there's

[B]

periods of time where, like, you just have to get stuff done around the house. You have work that needs to be done. You're a working mom.

[A]

It's also for safety because they will, they're the type of kids that will get into something.

[B]

Like, we like to have some time where they're, you know, if we're in the kitchen cooking dinner and they're playing in the backyard, okay. If somebody gets hurt, we're gonna hear them go, ah. And then we'll run back and go check on them to make sure they're okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But it's like, we can't just leave our kids unattended while we're filming a podcast or like doing some long, extended period of work together. So, you know, having a movie on is.

[A]

Well, they do a lot of activities too, but so much they've had more show. They've had more screen time than usual, for sure.

[B]

Oh, yeah. But I think that's. But we're. We're kind of. We're entering this transition where they're gonna be in school. School. So we're weeks away from them literally being in school multiple days in the

[A]

week for three hours.

[B]

Okay. Yeah.

[A]

I. My other. My real advice, too, which has been my advice before I was pregnant, but this is especially helpful when I am pregnant, is taking them out of the house. It's way better to get out of the house, even though it feels daunting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And to let them play with other kids. So then you're not the one that's, like, constantly, like, feeling like you have to be their play buddy. Like, we go to a lot of. Since it's so hot in Arizona right now. Now we go to a lot of play gyms, and they, like, play with a ton of other kids. They run around. They get so sweaty and have so much fun. And so then it's. But it's not me. Like, I'm literally. I'm surely plopped my booty in a chair.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, while they're playing. And that's, like, that's honestly my best advice. And also to just accept help if you need it, if you can. Like, if there's people offering, like, to hang out with your kids or to even just scheduling a play date. It offloads you once again, being the play buddy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I do feel guilty about that because I'm like, man, I feel like I have not been as good about playing with my kids, but I do know that this is a short season.

[B]

Totally. And you have so much time. Like, you spend so much time with them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I don't know them. Playing with other kids is also great for their development, too.

[A]

Oh. Also reading books with them, that's something that they really like. And I can do seated, surely. And I love reading books to them.

[B]

This is from Caitlin. She said, what is the hardest part about having kids?

[A]

Kids?

[B]

Probably just a transition, I would say, into. Into it. I think your time isn't your own anymore. That's probably. I would say that's the hardest part is, like, your.

[A]

Your time is not your own anymore.

[B]

Yeah. Bingo. You just have to adapt to thinking about feeding them, like, their schedule, you know? Yeah. Everything is kind of around.

[A]

Their needs come first before your. And, like, it's crazy how that goes into every area of your life. Like, even, like, where, like, what we eat is also kind of determined by them. Like, Things like that. But also I think it's probably the. One of the greatest things that you can like as a human experience and in this act of, like, selflessness.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I think.

[A]

And I just. There's so much deep purpose in having kids.

[B]

This is from Stacy. She said, do your kids favor one parent and want them for everything? How do you handle it? Feel like for us, not. Not the most.

[A]

I feel like it's because we're so 50. 50. Like, it's not like you're gone for the work day and I'm home with them all day. Like, we both handle work in home. 50, 50. So I feel like they really don't have a preference. I mean, they're. They definitely prefer me for more. Like if they're hurt or sick or sad and they go to you more for, like, play and just anything exciting.

[B]

They go for me whenever fun. Whenever they need a bad guy to chase him around or a lightsaber duel buddy. That's me. I'm always. I'm always the bedtime guy.

[A]

So you're so good at it.

[B]

Anytime I'm traveling or.

[A]

Yeah, your bedtime stories could use a little.

[B]

What's wrong with my bedtime stories?

[A]

They're not PC.

[B]

Oh, gosh. There's a lot of fart. Yeah. A lot of poop jokes in my bedtime stories. But that makes them laugh.

[A]

Yeah, but do you understand, like, our kids are going around saying poop and toot and all this stuff. And like, other kids. Parents are like, we don't say that.

[B]

Like, how often does that happen?

[A]

Not to our kids. But they're correcting their own kids for that. Those things that you're telling them in their bedtime story.

[B]

What's wrong with that?

[A]

That I don't have a problem with it either, honestly. But why do we.

[B]

Sometimes they think it's hilarious.

[A]

Sometimes I'm like, maybe they don't need to just go up to another random kid and say, poopy tooty butt. See, you think it's too funny. And that's crazy because I can just

[B]

see the other kid's parent being like, that's an appropriate.

[A]

Know. This is what I hear a lot. They're like, hey, we don't do potty talk. And I'm like, fair. That's fair. Why are we okay with potty talk?

[B]

I think that's so annoying them.

[A]

I guess that's just not a battle that we wanted to pick.

[B]

Yeah, I think I like to have.

[A]

And you kind of encourage.

[B]

I don't know. I think it's fun to see your kids laugh and crack jokes with them. So I don't think it's a hill I'm going to die on is our kids sing.

[A]

No, you're, like, actually encouraging it, though, which is another step further when you really think about it.

[B]

What would your thoughts be on having. This is from DRO Dog. They said, what would your thoughts be on having twins? I'm curious as I'm a twin myself, you know, that would be crazy. But I'm sure we would figure it out, you know?

[A]

Yeah, I feel like twins sound really fun when you're pregnant for the first time and then any pregnancy after that, you're like, what a blessing. And you're, like, so scared. I. I feel like. Like, I feel like twin parents probably hear the most, like, naive comments.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Like, they're like, well, we had them close in age, so it's like, we had twins. And they're like, like. But you never had two newborns at the exact same. You never had to nurse two babies, like, at the exact, like. Or it's like, well, that's so nice that you. Not two. Killed two birds with one stone. Got them out at one. It's like, no. They literally were pregnant with two full babies at one time. Like, that just. I just have so much respect for them. That's all I have to say.

[B]

What's a parenting. This is from Authentically Angel. She said, what's a parenting hack that used to work for you that doesn't work anymore?

[A]

Everything. The. The red light, green light, their hatch.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah. No, we. Yeah, we used to.

[A]

So, like, we still try so hard.

[B]

We have their night light be red when they have to stay in the room and green when they can come out. But they just kind of don't really abide by that rule. They kind of just do their. Their thing.

[A]

It's because they don't go in their polo Ups anymore.

[B]

Oh, yeah. They like to go. They like to go in the potty.

[A]

Yeah. What are we gonna say? Like, don't go to the bathroom.

[B]

That is a tricky thing because our kids, they found a loophole in our whole system because it's like, stay in your room to the light screen, and we have a program to, like, you know, go off at a certain time.

[A]

But then 6:45, it's not that much to ask for.

[B]

I know. But then here's.

[A]

Every time, it's just out.

[B]

They. We always catch them outside of the room, but they're like, oh, I'm going potty. And they actually do go potty.

[A]

They do every time. They can always make some come out.

[B]

Yeah, they just so. I don't know. Half the time I feel like they actually do need to go potty. The other half, I think they're just effing with us. And so at this point, we just kind of are like, effing with us.

[A]

We're like, fine. I guess the light.

[B]

Okay, whatever. Like, it's good that you're learning to not pee in your pull up and you're peeing in the potty. So, yeah, rip that parenting hack. Yeah. So that's. That's where we're at, people. So many exciting things coming up for us. Seriously. Like, can't. Can't believe that we're coming up on 200 episodes of this podcast.

[A]

I'm excited to see you hold a baby shirtless again. Really sweet.

[B]

You're real. You're into that. You think I'm. Yeah, I look good with my shirt

[A]

off with a baby. It's a perfect combination, really.

[B]

Just baby with holding.

[A]

It's like. Yeah, I was about to say.

[B]

Yeah, okay.

[A]

It's really. I like it.

[B]

I'm also looking forward to seeing you shirtless with a baby as well.

[A]

That's Animal Planet. That's not. Oh, that is another rule.

[B]

Wait, wait. We gotta talk about this.

[A]

You cannot touch me when I'm breastfeeding. And I swear to goodness, if you try.

[B]

Why? What's happened before?

[A]

I hate it. I hate being touched when I'm breastfeeding.

[B]

What did I do?

[A]

So many inappropriate things.

[B]

Like what? Tell me, what did I do?

[A]

I just comment on. Just don't even look at me when I'm breastfeeding.

[B]

Don't even look at you?

[A]

Maybe don't.

[B]

Why not?

[A]

Especially if I have a hawk on.

[B]

Where am I supposed to look away? At what?

[A]

Anything else.

[B]

Okay, don't touch me and don't look

[A]

at me when I'm breastfeeding. All right, that's another thing. We need to really lay refrain from

[B]

ever touching or looking at you ever again.

[A]

When I'm breastfeeding.

[B]

When you're breastfeeding.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

You're welcome. Welcome, everybody. Thank you again for tuning in for another episode of Unplanned. If you haven't left us a review or, like, subscribe to the podcast, we'd really appreciate that. Actually, a lot of people listen to the show but aren't subscribed. And it's free to subscribe, so you can do that really easily. And it's also free to leave a review. It takes like five seconds. So let us know what you think, you guys, and we'll see you next time. Bye. Bubba Wallace here from 2311 Racing on the track. My car's look is every everything. But today I'm talking about more than just paint schemes. I'm talking about my favorite games at Chumba Casino. Check out exclusives like Stampede Fury and my own King Croc Fury. It's just as wild as my car looked in Texas. With over 200 games and new ones weekly play for free at Chumbacasino.com let's Chumba sponsored by Chumba Casino. No purchase necessary. VGW Group Void where prohibited by law 21 terms and conditions apply. Drew McIntyre here from WWE. Wielding the Claymore can be a life of chaos when I'm not dominating in the ring. Chumba Casino is how this warrior takes a wee break. With hundreds of online social games and new weekly releases, there's always something fresh to try and those daily boosts next level. Even my free time feels like Valhalla. So when life feels like a battle, kick up your feet, have some fun and let's Chumba. No purchase necessary. VGW Group Void where prohibited by law. CTS and CS21 sponsored by Chumba Casino.