Our due date, baby names & the first trimester

Summary

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Episode: Our due date, baby names & the first trimester
Release Date: September 10, 2025

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Overview

In this candid episode, Matt and Abby—high school sweethearts and parents in Phoenix—open up about their third pregnancy. They answer a variety of listener questions about the first trimester, baby names, due dates, birth plans, pregnancy cravings, body changes, and family life while keeping the conversation warm, humorous, and very real. This episode offers insight into both the physical and emotional journeys of expecting, making it essential listening for expectant parents or anyone curious about the modern pregnancy experience.

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Main Themes & Discussion Points

1. First Trimester Recap & “We’re Pregnant” Discourse

• Abby is officially through the first trimester and feeling supported by Matt.
  • “She officially did it. High five.” (01:48, Matt)
• Discussion of whether it’s weird for couples to say “we’re pregnant.”
  • Abby appreciates the sentiment of togetherness:
    • “I like it when people say... ‘we’re having a baby.’ I don’t want to do this alone.” (01:56, Abby)

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2. Q&A: Pregnancy, Birth Plans, and Gender Reveal

Would you do a home birth?

• “No. Unless they can do cesareans at home.” (03:18, Abby)
• Historical discussion on cesareans led to a tangent on birth scenes in "House of the Dragon" (03:37-04:25).

Will you find out the gender?

• Matt is eager, Abby prefers waiting for the anatomy scan (approx. 20 weeks).
• They’ve never used genetic testing and are cautious after hearing of inaccurate blood tests.
  • “Absolutely not. I gotta know. I have to know if this is a boy or a girl.” (06:36, Matt)
  • On gender surprise: “Could you wait till birth? ... I know my mental state right after birth is really rollercoaster-y.” (06:36, Abby)

Is this your last baby?

• Both are open to more children and not rushing the decision.
  • “I think we got another one. Who knows? ... I just am not ready to, like, process formally closing that chapter.” (10:28-10:48, Abby)
• Brief discussion of the idea of twins.

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3. Pregnancy Symptoms, Body Positivity & Cravings

Cravings

• Abby craves “anything and everything,” no specific recurring craving. (12:04)
• Very vivid cravings, e.g., needing a Krispy Kreme donut after dreaming about it. (12:24-13:04)

Weight Gain & Body Image

• Abby embraces “eating whatever the frick” she wants and faces body changes with Matt’s enthusiastic support.
  • “I want to work out still, but I want to just eat. … You guys, don’t worry. By your third, you’re just like, it is what it is.” (13:36-13:43, Abby)
  • Matt compliments Abby’s pregnant body often:
    • “I like curvy Abby. I’m a fan of curvy Abby.” (33:14, Matt)

Morning Sickness & Gassiness

• This pregnancy has had less morning sickness. Abby also discusses being extremely gassy (including humorous anecdotes about farting on Matt’s lap in public). (15:31-16:40)

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4. Family Logistics & Lifestyle

Vehicle Shopping

• Debating between a minivan and an electric SUV as their family grows.
  • “We are getting a new vehicle…We have to get a third row before we have this baby.” (30:04, Abby)
• Abby leans toward a minivan; Matt is interested in an electric vehicle (Rivian).

Preparing for Baby #3

• Planning a “baby moon” (likely a cozy cabin or local trip).
• Abby prioritizes passing on maternity clothes and creating functional spaces in the home for kids’ toys (44:11-45:47).

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5. Health, Fitness, and Mental Wellbeing

Fitness During Pregnancy

• Abby has kept up a regular exercise routine (five to six times per week), focusing on safe modifications and listening to her body.
  • “I do lift weights. I’m only doing stuff with dumbbells, too. … My gym is very good at having pregnancy modifications.” (22:32-23:07, Abby)

Managing Mental Health

• Both emphasize the importance of community and support.
  • “If you want your pregnancy to go well, try to find community to do life with.” (34:20, Matt)
• Abby is proactive about watching for postpartum depression:
  • “If I feel like something is off, I’m totally down to having interventions to fix that. Because your mental health is so important after having a baby.” (48:44, Abby)
• The stigma of mental health treatment is challenged openly.

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6. Product Recommendations & Parenting Wisdom

• Products they’ve used or plan to use:
  • Mamaroo bassinet, considering the Snoo, Ollie swaddle, Soli wrap, Dreamland weighted sleep sacks, and nipple shields.
  • Less anxiety over bottle use, contact naps, and using nipple shields in this third round.
• Lessons learned:
  • “Here’s things I’m not gonna stress about with baby number three…” (28:02, Abby)
  • Avoid over-purchasing products like hiking carriers and focus on essentials.

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7. Notable Listener Questions & Answers

• How do you avoid taking out moods on your kids?

  • Abby responds that she’s more likely to vent to Matt than the kids and credits having a supportive spouse and community.
    • “Your spouse shouldn’t be the only person solving your every need… you need community in your life.” (34:45, Matt)

• Caffeine & Nausea Remedies

  • Abby stays under 200 mg of caffeine per day and uses a combination of Unisom and vitamin B6 to manage nausea. (39:32, Abby)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “The reason I kind of was, like, hoping for twins…they’re gonna have to slice me open anyway. Might as well just get two for one.” (11:25, Abby)
• “You look so good. Your little bump is so bumping.” (33:11, Matt)
• “If you want your pregnancy to go well, try to find community to do life with.” (34:20, Matt)
• “If I feel like something is off, I’m totally down to having interventions to fix that. Because your mental health is so important after having a baby.” (48:44, Abby)

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• 01:42 — Episode starts, first trimester celebration
• 03:18–04:52 — Home birth, C-section, and “House of the Dragon” discussion
• 06:10 — Gender reveal plans and why they wait for the anatomy scan
• 10:26 — Will this be the last baby?
• 12:04 — Pregnancy cravings and donut dreams
• 13:29 — Weight gain and embracing changes
• 22:00 — Abby’s fitness routine during pregnancy
• 28:02 — Lessons learned and stressing less with baby #3
• 30:04 — Discussing the new family car
• 34:20 — Importance of support systems while pregnant
• 39:32 — Nausea remedies (Unisom & B6)
• 48:14–50:53 — Postpartum depression conversation
• 57:20 — The due date: February 28th

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Baby Talk & The Due Date

• The baby's due date is February 28th, 2026 (“Technically, the due date is February 28th. Yeah, we’re holding that loosely.” (58:20, Abby))
• Naming remains undecided: More certainty on the boy name, less agreement on the girl name.

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Final Thoughts

Matt and Abby deliver an honest, warm-hearted look at pregnancy and family life, balancing humor (lots of gas jokes), relatable challenges, and genuine advice. They emphasize flexibility, support, and enjoying the process. The hosts are transparent about what they’ve learned, what they’re still figuring out, and their excitement for the future.

Listeners are encouraged to:

• Comment if they share a due date (“due date buddies”)
• Suggest baby names
• Join in the supportive community the Howards are passionate about building

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For Future Episodes

Listeners can submit questions, guest requests, and baby name ideas as Matt and Abby continue sharing their growing family's journey.

Transcript

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I think the date should probably be the 29th. What do you mean the 29th? Because I remember I kind of read my period app wrong.

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Is this your last baby?

[B]

I think we got another one in there.

[A]

We're not going to rush into any decisions right now.

[B]

I just am not ready to, like, process formally closing that chapter.

[A]

Do you have a name picked out?

[B]

We were really solid on our boy name, I thought.

[A]

We don't know either name.

[B]

Okay, so nevermind. We don't have the name. We don't have the name.

[A]

How do you control not gaining excessive weight? Are you worried about postpartum depression? Would you do a home birth? Tweet wins. Question mark? Question mark.

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Question mark.

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Hey, real quick, before we get into this episode, did you know that most of our viewers aren't even subscribed over 50%?

[B]

Big bummer.

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You don't even seem like you're disappointed.

[B]

You seem like you don't even bummed out.

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You actually are disappointed personal.

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I take that personally.

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We are taking this extremely personally. Abby's been having nightmares.

[B]

Why do you always say nightmare? Anyway?

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Okay, they probably just everybody that says.

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Wouldn'T take you very long to just quickly do that. Then we can resolve this issue rather quickly. And then you'll just be subscribed from here on out. And we would greatly appreciate it. And also, you're gonna find our episodes more accessible to you.

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And now we will get into the episode.

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Let's go.

[A]

Welcome back, everybody, to the unplanned podcast, guys. Abby is now through the first trimester, officially.

[B]

Woo.

[A]

She officially did it. High five.

[B]

That wasn't so bad.

[A]

I was about to say something about, like, us being pregnant, but I realized, like, does that bug you?

[B]

I like it when people say, like when you say we're pregnant or like we're having a baby or like, I like that because I'm like, I don't want to do this alone.

[A]

Because I saw TikTok the other day about how. How stupid that is because, like, people will say we're pregnant, but then, like, the wife is the one doing all the work. And then I started to feel guilty. I'm like, man, I Need to stop saying we're pregnant.

[B]

It probably depends on the woman.

[A]

What matters more is what you think and less what other people think. Right.

[B]

I feel like I can see what they're. Where they're coming from, but also, like, maybe that's someone that, like, doesn't have a lot of support from their partner. This is definitely an us thing. Like, you're having to make adjustments because this pregnancy, obviously, I'm not gonna downplay. I'm.

[A]

You're doing.

[B]

I'm doing the most.

[A]

You are doing the most.

[B]

I'm doing the brunt of the work here.

[A]

But you feel supported is what it sounds like.

[B]

Yeah, I feel very supported. And I feel like if I said I was pregnant, I'd feel like, oh, my gosh, this is such a big, heavy thing. I can't imagine doing this all alone. Like, I feel really glad that we're. We're pregnant. You're both like, you're filling in for me in so many ways.

[A]

And you heard their folks. Everybody has a different opinion on that. And that is okay.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, that's what makes the world go round.

[A]

Right?

[B]

One thing that bothers somebody might make somebody else happy. I feel good about it.

[A]

Abby put up a question box on her Instagram story. Ask some questions about baby number three, first trimester, how she's feeling, all that stuff. And we're going to be answering all of those questions right here, right now, ladies and gentlemen. First question is, would you do a home birth?

[B]

No. Unless they can do cesareans at home.

[A]

That would. That would be crazy. That would be insane. I bet you the first cesarean was probably performed.

[B]

Trust me, I wish I could be.

[A]

Well, actually, you know, I bet you they used to have to do cesareans at home because they. It was like, to save the baby.

[B]

Those haven't been, like, around for. When was the first cesarean?

[A]

This is making me think about House of the Dragon, that show. If you were pregnant.

[B]

That was terrible to watch.

[A]

Do not watch House of the Dragon.

[B]

Or if you're gonna be pregnant at any time, or if you've been pregnant anytime. Don't watch that show.

[A]

So many traumatic birth stuff in that show. Not good. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

First successful C section. Okay, let's see here. It says, what, 1500 in the year 1500.

[A]

They did a C section.

[B]

Apparently in Switzerland. Some dude in 1500 did it.

[A]

Holy crap. What was her husband's name?

[B]

Her husband did it.

[A]

Her husband did. That's beautiful.

[B]

Jacob Neufer. I would have thought his name would have been Jacob Cesarean. What does cesarean mean?

[A]

I don't have so much Caesar, I swear. I read this at one point. It was named after Julius.

[B]

Not 1500.

[A]

No, no. But like, they used to do them unsuccessfully back in the day, like they did them.

[B]

You're right. The name Caesarion is believed to have originated from ancient Rome. According to legend, Julius Caesar's mother was born through. Oh, his mother was born through a surgical incision, and the procedure was subsequently named after him.

[A]

His mother was born that way. Well, here's what I'm. Babe, when they used to do that back in the day, one person wouldn't make it.

[B]

Yeah, it was the mom.

[A]

Yeah, well, because it was like they either both don't make it or one person could make it. So that's why they would do that.

[B]

Hypothetically. You know what I mean? How do they know? I hate that. I hate that.

[A]

Isn't that so? I hate that so much. I'm so glad that we are alive in this modern era.

[B]

You know what's really terrible is that the mom probably wasn't the one making the decision.

[A]

That makes me think about House of the Dragon.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

That's why you shouldn't watch that show about this if you guys. Okay.

[B]

Anyway, was I not supposed to reveal our birth plan in this episode?

[A]

It's all good.

[B]

We.

[A]

We're doing caesarean section. I. We guess we. I guess we revealed the birth plan.

[B]

We can talk more about it later.

[A]

Everybody already knows that too.

[B]

Like.

[A]

Yeah, we'll. We'll go more into details on that later.

[B]

I mean, I don't really have. I'm not withholding anything.

[A]

The next question we have. What is falling down? You guys can't hear that light now.

[B]

On my screen, it looks beautiful.

[A]

It looks like there's like LEDs back there. That's the sun. Okay, next question. Will you find out the gender? I was so eager to find out the gender, you guys. I was wanting Abby to do the blood test.

[B]

Actually, at my last appointment, Matt was.

[A]

Like, I just wanted to ask me.

[B]

To sign up for the blood test.

[A]

I want to know.

[B]

And didn't do the blood test.

[A]

Well, okay. You know how I'm frugal and our sister in law was saying how it's like $800 or something for them to do the blood test at the doctor, but they spent like $100. A very, you know, safe high end.

[B]

It was just a. It was just a basic lab where they're literally just searching for the Y chromosome.

[A]

Yeah. And then they can tell you. So I was like, you know what, we'll just do it there because we'll save a couple hundred bucks. Like might as well, you know, like why spend an extra couple hundred dollars?

[B]

Well, we've also never opted to do genetic testing. We've never been like recommended to necessarily. Like it's always been our choice. But we've never opted into doing genetic testing. So we've always waited for the anatomy scan at 20 weeks to find out. And I say always. That's the first two.

[A]

But last minute I was like, you know what babe, let's just get the like the better deal here. And at this point we're so close to 20 weeks, I think I'm just like, screw it, we'll just wait.

[B]

I knew that's what was gonna happen. But here's the other thing. Could you wait till birth?

[A]

Absolutely not. I gotta know. I have to know if this is a boy or a girl. I wanna know so bad.

[B]

I think it'd be kind of fun. But also I know my mental state like right after birth is like really rollercoaster y. I'm like, I feel like I need to set myself up to like process as much as I can before I go into that. So. And I also think it's really good, like I said, for preparing the kids. Because with our niece Brielle, like we talked about her like them having a baby girl and her and she. And like Brielle, it's like felt like they knew her before they had seen her outside the womb. You know what I mean?

[A]

So telling the kids the baby's name, sister or brother. Yeah, it's going to be good. Like they're going to, they're going to get hyped and then we'll also get to prepare. I'm worried about our sister in law that isn't finding out till the birth. Because I know she wants a baby girl so bad.

[B]

She's going to love that baby no matter what.

[A]

Yeah, that's true. I don't know. Yeah, that's a risky game. I think if you're doing that, that's risky.

[B]

I have a preference and I don't feel like they have like a strong preference. Yeah, actually I just talked to someone literally just yesterday. They had two girls and they really wanted a boy or something like that. Two of the same gender and they really wanted to have the opposite gender. They did the sneak peek test and the sneak peek said that they were getting like the opposite gender. Then they went to their anatomy scan and found out that it was wrong.

[A]

That's like when you were born, that happened to your parents with you. They thought you were a boy.

[B]

That was different. They actually thought saw a penis on me, which is. I still have a complex about it today. I'm gonna be honest.

[A]

That's what that thing is.

[B]

Shut up. At my first scan, they told my parents I was a boy because they didn't do that testing when we were babies. Or at least they didn't on my mom. And then later on, they found out that I was a girl. Anyway, what I was saying is then when this person was sharing the story, like, how. Then they were, like, so disappointed because they had already thought that they got what they wanted and they were so excited. Then someone else that was at this playdate was like, that happened to me. I was like, the point whatever of people that the sneak peek test was wrong on. And I'm like, I can't let that be me. I know someone else that had the sneak peek test wrong. And it's not even that I have a strong preference, but if I start to, like, imagine this and, like, think of the name and, like, picture our kids with a brother or a sister, like, that would do more good than or bad than good. And, like, just not knowing, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

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[A]

Abbey was so excited when she put her Revolve order in. She came right to me and was raving about how excited she was because there were so many things on Revolve that she had been wanting to buy.

[B]

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[A]

Next question is, is this your last baby?

[B]

I think we got another one. Who knows? I don't know. I feel like there's always this pressure of, like, are you guys gonna be done? I'm like, I don't want to think about closing that chapter just yet while I'm still pregnant.

[A]

We're still so young.

[B]

We're so young.

[A]

We have time to think this over. We're not gonna rush into any decisions right now.

[B]

I love every bit of the process too. I really do. So I'm like, I can. I just am not ready to, like, process formally closing that chapter. I could work on that in hindsight, or we could just like, I just can't do that right now. Like, I'm not. I'm not there yet. I love it so much.

[A]

Twins. Question mark? Question mark?

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Question mark. No.

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At first we did think it was twins, you guys, because Abby's belly popped out. Well, your belly popped out really quickly.

[B]

It did.

[A]

So we were thinking, like, this has to be, like, we both were kind of convinced for a little bit.

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I was just so bloated.

[A]

Yeah. And that'd be kind of fun. I mean, I say that not ever being someone that's, you know, taking care of twins, I'm sure that's a lot.

[B]

The reason I kind of was, like, hoping for twins. I know that's very naive. And to all the twin parents out there, you're probably like, shut up. This girl has no idea how difficult that is. And, like, that's true. I don't know. This is just me just talking because I'm like, it kind of sounds nice in a way because I have C sections. I'm like, they're gonna have to slice me open anyway. Might as well just get two for one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In the process. But alas, just one baby. And that's for the best, honestly, because I feel like totally carrying twins and having twin newborns and all of that is like something that only fewer cut out for.

[A]

Babe, what are your pregnancy cravings right now?

[B]

Anything and everything. I'm just so hungry. I think about food like 200 times a day.

[A]

See, that's just me always.

[B]

I always think about food too. I feel like. But now it's just been like, you can't trust me on social media. Like, I'll see something, I'm like, I gotta eat that now. Like, I see something, I'm like, oh, I need that now. But it's not like a specific recurring craving. It's just like, when I see it, I want it.

[A]

The other day, guys, Abby went to Krispy Kreme and got some donuts when I was putting the kids down for bed. And oh, my gosh, best decision ever. I want to get Krispy Kreme every day now. You picked out a cookie butter donut. It was filled with cookie butter. That one was insane. What was the other one that you got? That was really good.

[B]

I mean, I like the raspberry one, the butter toffee one.

[A]

Butter toffee. That one.

[B]

They have like a Harry Potter potty. Harry Potter collab right now. But I literally. The reason I had to get those is because the food noise was so bad because I had a dream about biting into a donut the night before and I literally couldn't continue with my day until that was satisfied. Like, all day I was thinking about it. You know it's bad when you're having dreams about food.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. Are you squeezing my big toe between your toes? Why are your toes warm?

[B]

Because it's so hot in here. I'm drippy sweat.

[A]

I think I'm cold blooded because no matter, like, what the temperature is, I'm the opposite of you.

[B]

But then why are you cold right now?

[A]

Because I need to. I need to be in the sun like a lizard.

[B]

What? Oh, that's right.

[A]

Next question is, how do you control not gaining excessive weight? That's, like, really personal. But if. Yeah, that's.

[B]

I feel like I gained excessive weight a little bit.

[A]

Here's the thing that I tell you all the time, babe, is you should eat whatever the frick you want to eat.

[B]

Yeah, I kind of feel like that's my motto for this pregnancy. Like, I want to work out still, but I want to just eat. I want to eat.

[A]

Eat good.

[B]

Eat good.

[A]

Eat donuts.

[B]

I mean, good. You guys, don't worry. I feel like by your third too, you're kind of just like, it is what it is. And I'm Just gonna eat. And here's the other thing. I can't prevent my face from blowing up and getting so puffy. That pregnancy face hits me so bad. I feel like us shorter girls have a disadvantage here, specifically because it's just. It just goes to our face so bad. And so now I'm just like, I can't. I can't prevent that. So I'm just gonna lean into it. Just let it happen. I did think about getting a gua Shaw this time. You know that it's like a little tool that you can like, get things to just, like, drain in your face.

[A]

I didn't even know.

[B]

I don't think it's gonna fix it.

[A]

I feel like you just made that word up.

[B]

I didn't.

[A]

Is that French? What is that?

[B]

I think it's, like, Japanese.

[A]

You say it like that, it kind of sounds like croissant.

[B]

Okay, don't do that.

[A]

Okay. How bad is the morning sickness, really?

[B]

I didn't have it super bad this time.

[A]

Really? I feel like there.

[B]

I didn't throw up one time. I throw up every time before.

[A]

There was a time in our life where we were hitting up Taco Bell every day, but that's not morning. It was a day. It was a brief. It was a brief situation. I guess it's more pregnancy cravings.

[B]

It's really, like, an aversion to everything else.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Because I still didn't want to eat it. Remember, I was, like, trying to choke down a quesadilla from Taco Bell, and I was like, yeah, I hate it.

[A]

It was crazy, though, because, like, if you didn't get the food that you needed in the moment that you felt like it was terrible and it was game over. Like, you couldn't eats. You couldn't eat it.

[B]

I probably cried about it.

[A]

Like, I ended up eating your snack wraps from McDonald's because.

[B]

Yeah, in the moment. And then it wasn't good anymore.

[A]

Yeah, you got them.

[B]

And I'm not making this stuff up.

[A]

I know it's crazy.

[B]

I know it's crazy.

[A]

I feel like only pregnant ladies would understand that.

[B]

Seriously.

[A]

How many weeks are you? Already answered that. 14. I'm 15 tomorrow.

[B]

I have trapped gas in my belly right now. No, I can't get it out. Trust me, I would if I could.

[A]

You have been gassy.

[B]

I'm just so gassy.

[A]

It's crazy, too.

[B]

Probably my diet.

[A]

Sometimes it just, like, I get in the car and I'm like, oh, my goodness.

[B]

You're kidding. In the car.

[A]

You know, especially enclosed spaces. Like that?

[B]

Yeah. I get embarrassed when we're, like, cuddling, and I.

[A]

It's okay, though. You were sitting on my lap and you farted on me the other day.

[B]

That was so messed up of you to tell our friends that. It was true. I was sitting on Matt's lap. Would you force me to sit on your.

[A]

It smelled so bad.

[B]

It smelled. Smelled?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You're kidding. It actually stunk.

[A]

They. I feel like they've been smelling more.

[B]

Yeah, but that one did.

[A]

Maybe that one wasn't as bad as other ones.

[B]

No. You guys, Matt forced me to sit on his lap at our friend's house, and then I was just talking, and I accidentally let one. It was quiet. And then you announced to our friends before we left, like, I. We go in hours of just, like, playing games. You didn't say anything. You sat on that, and then before we left, you just told them. I was, like, so embarrassed.

[A]

That was funny.

[B]

But it was also hilarious.

[A]

We were like, hey, you were laughing.

[B]

I was cracking up. I didn't know that you felt that.

[A]

I'm not even a funny person. But my delivery in that moment, everyone was laughing.

[B]

They were laughing because they felt embarrassed for me.

[A]

Ouch.

[B]

I can't help it. And actually, I still have a trapped air pocket right now. It's tmi. It's tmi. But I've just been so gassy.

[A]

Wait, aren't you supposed to take, like, Gas X or something like that can help with that? I've never taken that, but I should. Gosh, you're right. I'm, like, starting to sweat now that the AC is off in here. We got to figure out a solution to this. Okay. Where do you want to go on your baby moon?

[B]

Oh, my gosh. Are we gonna do that? Because it's gonna be, like, close to Christmas time at that point.

[A]

I got you maybe a road trip somewhere and do a baby moon, like, whenever you want. I don't think it doesn't have. We could do flags.

[B]

Cozy cabin.

[A]

Yeah, we could go up north.

[B]

That'd be fun.

[A]

Kind of romantic.

[B]

Yeah, I kind of want to do this low key. Just because the time of the year that falls, I just want a massage.

[A]

How about we just go back to Mexico?

[B]

Mexico would be really fun, too.

[A]

Or Vegas. Hey, we've never done a Vegas baby moon.

[B]

Okay, maybe.

[A]

Or you know who I saw? Our friends Low and Tanner went to Dubai. Maybe they went to Abu Dhabi.

[B]

That's awesome for them.

[A]

That looked so sick. I'm just gonna plan your babymoon. It'll Be a surprise. I'll be like, surprise, we're going to Abu Dhabi.

[B]

I would not enjoy that.

[A]

You wouldn't?

[B]

I can't be gone that long.

[A]

That is. Yeah. It is sad when you're gone from your kids for more than like three days.

[B]

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[A]

Did you follow the shuttles method when trying to conceive? We did not actually. We learned about this method and didn't want to follow it. I don't know why we didn't.

[B]

We probably don't know because I think it's because we didn't have a strong preference.

[A]

True, true. That actually. Yeah, that's actually why.

[B]

That's why I was like, let's just leave this up to the fates.

[A]

Yeah, we left it up to the fates.

[B]

And the fates have chosen boy both times. So yeah, the fates are probably going to choose boy again.

[A]

That's what we're thinking, you guys. We really think it's a Boy. Just because of our past history, you know, our track record, we've been two for two. Boy.

[B]

At this point there is actually some type of like statistical. I don't even know how this is, but it's like proven if you have two of the same gender, you have a higher chance of being able to predict the gender of the third.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But then I've like met what it is. I've met so many families recently that have like two boys and then a girl or two girls and then a boy.

[B]

Really? So maybe that's. What's that prophecy? Like we're going to have a girl?

[A]

Yeah. I don't know. Like, the more that I hear about that, I'm like my whole idea of what this.

[B]

See here's the problem is that we don't fully agree on the girl name, so. But we better have a boy because we agree on the boy name pretty good.

[A]

Next question is from Alexis is cool 101. Do you use anything to prevent stretch marks?

[B]

Nur.

[A]

I thought you did. I thought you rubbed like an oil on your belly.

[B]

Something else. I gave up on you. Maybe once I get bigger, I will.

[A]

Yeah, you did that.

[B]

Like I used bio oil.

[A]

That's what it's called.

[B]

Yeah. But I don't really think that it helps.

[A]

You don't think it help? Like when did you give up on. On that stuff?

[B]

Probably pregnancy number two. Yeah, that might bring it back. You know, just give it a good old shot. It probably is. Can't. It's good for your skin to hydrate.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I think you're gonna get stretch marks. You're get stretch marks. I think it's a completely like a horse. Your skin hormone.

[A]

Yeah. And just genetics too. Because some women, you know, get a lot of stretch marks and some get literally none.

[B]

I'll be honest with you. Also depends on how big you get. Depends on how the baby is, you know, all these things. And I feel like already my belly is not like imperfection free. So now I'm just like, what's another few stretch marks?

[A]

Okay. What's crazy about your belly in particular is you legitimately abs before this baby. Like I did not. I saw them. You would flex and I'd be like, oh my gosh. But then you'd pull your skin and you could pull it out super far.

[B]

So much loose skin because.

[A]

Because of the two babies that you've had. So it's like, it's pretty cool that what your body's been able to do. But yeah, girl like you.

[B]

Yeah, girl, I Got lots of skin, you're fit.

[A]

Speaking of fitness, do you lift weight during pregnancy and postpartum? If yes, how much and when I do lift weights. Pregnancy and postpartum.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

You're good.

[B]

I've been working out. I don't lift super heavy.

[A]

Abby works out. Are you doing five times a week now? Six times.

[B]

I do, like five or six.

[A]

Six is ridiculous. Weeks that you do six are crazy.

[B]

I mostly do six.

[A]

This is the first pregnancy that you've worked out the entire time, right?

[B]

No, I've worked out the entire time. Both other times.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. This is the first time I've done burn the whole time.

[A]

Ah, okay. Yeah, because you've been going to burn for three years. So impressive. I don't know how you do it, to be honest.

[B]

I do lift weights. I don't do anything. Like, I'm not maxing out on really, I'll max out, but, like, on a high rep count, I'm not doing, like, my one rep max. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I don't lift anything super heavy. I'm only doing stuff with dumbbells, too. Like, I'm not doing any stuff with, like, a big heavy barbell. Nothing crazy. And also, my body's very used to this style of workouts. Like I've said. I've done this exact same workout style for three years now. Also, my gym very good at having pregnancy modifications. So once I start to need those more, I don't really need a ton of them right now just because of how early I am, but as I start to need them more, like, I'll really follow those pregnancy mods and, like, just do different movements just to keep my body safe and the baby safe.

[A]

It's crazy, baby, because we worked out together a couple weeks ago and you smoked me like you did. You did more reps. I think it was like, burpees or something. We were doing it for time, and after that I thought, holy crap, my pregnant wife just did more burpees.

[B]

For sure.

[A]

You are fit. You are so fit.

[B]

I will say my heart rate is much higher when I'm pregnant, so that's something else I'm cognizant of. Even though I can physically do it, I can feel my heart working really hard. So I have to be aware of that and, like, scale back sometimes. Even though I'm like, I could totally do another rep right now. I could do another lap or whatever. Like, I have to be aware of, like, managing that. I have a naturally high heart rate and I'm used to getting really high. But I just want to be more careful of that when I'm pregnant, especially.

[A]

Next question is, what's the age gap between the boys and this baby? If I'm doing my math right, we're talking perfect. Two and a half years.

[B]

Exactly. Two and a half years between our second baby and this new baby.

[A]

Yeah. Which is awesome.

[B]

Perfect.

[A]

So good.

[B]

Ideal.

[A]

Yeah. Because first age gap is only 13 months, and then this one is. What does that make it? 30 months? 30.

[B]

30 months.

[A]

3 1/2 years.

[B]

Exactly. It's perfect.

[A]

I think they're all going to be so close.

[B]

I know they're born excited, too. It's going to be awesome.

[A]

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[B]

That's a big question, honestly.

[A]

Yeah. Really big question. I think this time we might try out the Snoo.

[B]

What are we.

[A]

I think. Right. Like, we've. We've heard really good things about the Snoo, but we've never actually used it. Something that we bought a couple years ago was the. The little sock thing. What's that thing called?

[B]

The outlet. We never used it.

[A]

We bought it, but we never used it. So I think we just gave it away to a friend. Right. Because we thought we would just get paranoid and like. Like, for, like, I don't know, it almost seemed as if it would make our anxiety worse.

[B]

It felt like overkill.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

For us personally, but I feel like if our kid had any type of, like, heart condition or something or like, was maybe really sick, then I'd want to use it. But we have been really blessed. Like, we haven't had any, like, reason to need to do extra monitoring.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

On our kids. And I just felt like it would just add anxiety at that point. We're using the Snoo. We've always used the Mamaroo bassinet. My fear about the Snoo is that they're gonna get addicted to it, and then we're not gonna.

[A]

Maybe we'll have to think on that one a little bit more. Maybe we shouldn't switch it up. Like, maybe we should.

[B]

I'm so impressed that you even know what the SNU is.

[A]

Of course I know what the SNOO is. We've been through this twice.

[B]

We've never used it, though. I'm thinking my best product. That is a hot one.

[A]

What is it?

[B]

Nipple shields.

[A]

I love nipple shields. Yes.

[B]

I mean, okay, I am no expert at all, and, in fact, the experts would disagree with me, But I'm just saying that if you ever feel Inclined to use a nipple shield because you're struggling with a latch or you just want to protect your nips. It's always worked out great for me, and it's never affected my supply or anything like that. I love them. I think they're amazing. I think they're wonderful.

[A]

Well, you haven't lost.

[B]

I'm gonna use them again.

[A]

You haven't lost sensation in your nipples. So I think a lot of women lose that, which is totally, totally chill. Oh, sorry. Should we cut that out?

[B]

No, it's fine.

[A]

Okay. But, yeah, like, the nipple shields have been awesome. Abby's exclusively used those.

[B]

Yeah, exclusively. I mean, I feel like at the beginning, we latched Augie a few times without it, and I was like, nah, never mind.

[A]

Yeah. And, you know, I have heard that it can have issues with supply, but Abby has so much oversupply that we've never had an issue.

[B]

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[A]

I almost.

[B]

Calm down.

[A]

Yeah. I almost forgot about those. I would. I would wrap the kids to me while I was working and on my computer, and they would just sleep. They would just sleep on my chest, and they feel so safe.

[B]

They just fall asleep listening to your heart beating.

[A]

A recommendation I would say for new parents is, don't get, like, a hiking baby carrier, because we bought it and we used it once and then never used it ever again. Maybe we've used it three times.

[B]

Maybe if our kids weren't so big.

[A]

But another thing. Sorry. You said this the other day, and I thought it was good, like, a swaddle with Velcro.

[B]

That's Ollie swaddle.

[A]

Yeah, the Ollie swaddle. We use the Dreamland weighted sleep sacks.

[B]

Once they were a little bigger.

[A]

Once our kids were, you know, probably.

[B]

Like, at least 10 pounds.

[A]

Yeah. And those have been wonderful for us. Just anything to make your kid feel like they're back in the womb, you know, or that they're with you. But, yeah, the swaddles. If you use a swaddle without Velcro or without some way to, like, secure it around your kid, then they just. They get out of it. And then when they have those, like little tremors in the night, they wake themselves up.

[B]

Here's things I'm not gonna stress about with baby number three that I stressed about in the past best.

[A]

What are they?

[B]

Mark my words, Using bottles at times, not going to stress about that. Using nipple shield, not going to stress about that. In fact, that's going to just be what I go to. I'm not going to stress about contact naps. Like I feel like I always was. Like I have to try to lay them down at least one. Not going to stress about contact naps. They're going to learn to nap. It's going to be just fine. Those are like the main things I'm like that have stressed me out in the past that I'm like, I'm not going to stress about this time.

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[A]

Next question. What vehicle are you in now, and what will you change to? So this person's assuming that we're getting a new vehicle.

[B]

We are getting a new vehicle.

[A]

What? I didn't know about this.

[B]

Shut up. We do need a third row.

[A]

On the way over here, Abby threatened to buy a 1990s white minivan that she saw on the side of the road.

[B]

I will be getting.

[A]

What was that thing was so ugly. I think it was a Chrysler. I think it was a Chrysler.

[B]

It was a Dodge. No.

[A]

Dodge Grand Caravan, maybe. That's what I had. We had a red Dodge Grand Caravan.

[B]

I'll get one. I'll get a little red bullet.

[A]

So ugly, though. They look so ugly.

[B]

I don't. I'm not saying it's my first choice.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But if it's between cramming three kids. We have currently have a Tesla model.

[A]

Model Y.

[B]

Model Y. So it doesn't have a third row. It's time that we get a third row before we have this baby. We'll probably get the new vehicle in, like, January. We're kind of up in the air about what we're gonna get. In fact, we're not quite seeing eye to eye. I'm seeing a minivan, multipurpose vehicle.

[A]

I'm thinking Rivian. I'm thinking Rivian because the Rivian has three rows and it's.

[B]

But it doesn't have the captain's seats.

[A]

It's electric. And electric cars are what Abby has been driving for the past almost three years. And here's the other thing that I wanted to mention. You don't want to get gas. You know, and there's gonna be a time I'm. I would definitely gonna get.

[B]

I'm gonna have to get gas.

[A]

I would definitely get Carnival. Oh, my gosh. I would definitely get your gas for you as much as I could. But there will be a time where you. You will have to go pump your own gas.

[B]

Here's how I'll make this. I'll do what I do with anything I don't like doing.

[A]

EVs are good for the environment.

[B]

I'll romanticize getting gas. A lot of people get gas, by the way, and it's no big deal.

[A]

They don't even think everyone watching this is like, are they Seriously?

[B]

It's you. It's you. I'm saying it's no big deal. You're, like, complaining about getting gas. I'm like, everyone that's listening to this basically gets gas. So I'll get gas. And then I'll also romanticize it. I'll get myself a little drink at the gas station. It'll be really fun. I'll get the kids a good to grow juice. They're gonna love the gas station.

[A]

You're just gonna make me so frustrated.

[B]

I ate gas station breakfast like every day as a kid.

[A]

Here's what's gonna bother me is I know as soon as we buy this vehicle, they're gonna come out with some like EV. Like 700 miles of range. Better than a minivan. But it looks so cool.

[B]

And it will be $1 million.

[A]

I know that it's going to come out and I'm just gonna be like, oh, we should have gotten that. So then, like, part of me is like, okay, if we do the minivan, then maybe we should just get like a used, you know, minivan that's like on the more. Less expensive side so that we can like save up for this fancy.

[B]

I want to pimp out my Kia Carnival mom car. I want a pimped out Kia Carnival.

[A]

But then, but guess what?

[B]

Guess what makes the hot mom car.

[A]

Maybe they make an electric Kia Carnival. You know what I'm saying? Like, that would be sick. You don't care.

[B]

Guess what makes the hot mom car hot.

[A]

What?

[B]

The mom.

[A]

Oh, shoot.

[B]

I'm totally getting it.

[A]

You are super hot.

[B]

It's not about the car. It's about the mom.

[A]

Something. Speaking of. Speaking of hot moms, you are so hot.

[B]

You've been really into me.

[A]

I've been really into you. Like, I don't know what it is about this pregnancy, but, like, good Lord, Abby. You look so good. You look so good. Your little bump is so bumping. Like, you look absolutely stunning.

[B]

Matt likes the extra poundage on me. I like.

[A]

I like curvy Abby. I'm a fan of curvy Abby.

[B]

She tells me this literally 80,000 times a day. I love it. I feel very loved by you. I feel very. I feel like I can easily embrace these body changes because you're into it.

[A]

You look great. You look amazing.

[B]

It's going well.

[A]

I like this version of you.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Okay, next question. How do you stop yourself from taking out your moods on your kids?

[B]

I'm not really tempted to take moods out on my kids. I'm tempted to take my moods out on you. I told you. I said hating. I said getting mad at your husband is a pregnancy symptom.

[A]

You said that to your mother. And then your mother goes, good thing you've been pregnant for like two out of the last three years.

[B]

Good thing you're tough.

[A]

I love you.

[B]

No, I love you. You know, at the end of the day, I love you, and I love you all throughout the day. But just sometimes, like, you know, when you're pregnant, it's just. You're the easiest. You're the easiest person to take my moods out on because you're the safest person.

[A]

I feel like this has been the best pregnancies so far, at least just for me, like, seeing everything play out, because first one, you weren't around family. Second one, it was a surprise. And then this one, it was planned. And we're around family and friends, and you have a lot of Mom, I.

[B]

Have a really good community.

[A]

Yeah, you have a good community. So I think, like, if you want your pregnancy to go well, try to find community to do life with. Especially if there's someone that you can find that is, like, a moment in the same sort of deal as you, it will just make you feel so seen.

[B]

Also, your spouse doesn't have to become the punching bag for everything, if that makes sense, because you have other people to not, like, be a punching bag, but to, like, talk things out with.

[A]

And, like, obviously you want to. Your spouse should be supportive of you and love you, but your spouse shouldn't be the only person that is solving your every need. And that goes for men and women. Yes. So I think just. Just coming back to community for husbands and wives, you need community in your life, and it's been a lot of fun.

[B]

It's been a world of a difference.

[A]

It's been a lot of fun. Like, I have a lot of dads that I'm friends with that they're expecting babies, and they're so excited, and so getting to do life with them has been a blast.

[B]

Yeah, I know. I actually joked because I was like, me and one of my other friends, she's, like, literally due a week after me. We're like, we're just gonna rent an Airbnb together and just, like, coop up together in the newborn stage because she also has two other kids. We're like, we'll leave the dads in charge of the toddlers, and we'll just. Just give us two weeks to kind of, like, let the hormones settle, and then we'll rejoin society. We're not actually gonna do that, but I'm like, that does actually sound like kind of a good plan.

[A]

That sounds like fun. Okay, this question is, did you drink coffee with all your pregnancies and how many cups per day?

[B]

I Did drink coffee with all my pregnancies. I mean, the standard rule that my doctor says, and that is, like, widely accepted nowadays, is staying at 200 milligrams of caffeine a day or below. I follow that even when I'm not pregnant, Unless I'm literally, like, dying for whatever reason when I'm not pregnant. Now that I'm pregnant, I definitely always stay below 200. But, yeah, I surely get close to it every single day.

[A]

Which 200 milligrams is actually a lot.

[B]

Not really, when you think about it.

[A]

That's one Alani energy drink.

[B]

Oh, I don't drink those.

[A]

I know, but even look at a monster energy drink.

[B]

I don't drink energy drinks, period.

[A]

Like, okay, I do.

[B]

The most I had was the clean, simple E eats. Like, they have, like, a 100 milligram drink that I will drink if it's, like, a really tired day.

[A]

But, yeah, because it's 200. Like, you can have more than one coffee in a day, which is nice.

[B]

And, in fact, I kind of need to, or else I get headaches. Yeah, that has been my worst.

[A]

You're addicted to caffeine, that's what that is.

[B]

Yeah, I am. And I don't really care to get off of it. Honestly. I feel no guilt about it. I feel no problems with it.

[A]

Oh, man. Okay.

[B]

My worst symptom at late first trimester, early second trimester every time, and this time included has been headaches. And usually magnesium helps me, but I still have been getting so many bad headaches, and it just sucks. It drains you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Last night, my school was cracking.

[A]

You had a really bad headache last night.

[B]

I was freaking out a little because it felt like I literally, like, had a cracking school.

[A]

Okay, next question is, do you have a named picked out?

[B]

We really saw it on our boy name, but we kind of don't see eye to eye on the girl name.

[A]

Well, I thought we heard. We don't know either name.

[B]

Okay, so never mind. We don't have the name. We don't have the name. And it's fine because we have a long time.

[A]

Abby's throwing me for a loop right now on the name, because all the names that we had decided on in high school to name our children have been thrown out. They're no longer cool.

[B]

No. One of them I do still like, but we just have a unique issue with it.

[A]

I think that's a cute one. I think the name from high school is really cute.

[B]

But then we can tell her that we've named her since when we were 16.

[A]

This is really unique though, because the past two times Abby said a name, I immediately liked it and I was like, boom, we're done. But it was after. This is what happened after we found out the gender. It was after we found. Yeah, we think we're messing up the order. We gotta just pause conversation. Pause conversation until we find out the gender.

[B]

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To a podcast, I've actually used that feature before. The podcast feature is so convenient when you can just take all of your notes, take ideas that you want to resonate on, and really think about. Google Gemini can literally make that into a podcast that you listen to. You can tell it that you want to have a speaker and an interviewer, or if you want it to be a group of people talking about a complex topic, you could have Gemini literally create all these different personalities that interact with each other. Isn't that crazy?

[B]

That's actually insane. When we were in college, if I would have had a resource like this, that would have been so helpful because I remember a lot of our assigned readings were just like long, long pages of textbooks. And realistically, I was never going to get around to reading all that. So it would have been nice to have something that could just give me the Cliff Notes in a very compact, easy to comprehend way.

[A]

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[B]

I didn't do this the last two times, but I took Unisum and B6 this time, which Unisum is just an over the counter sleep aid and B6 is just a vitamin that you can get over the counter as well. For some reason, that combo really, really helped me. This time. I got sick. Like I threw up a few times with both my previous pregnancies, but was just really, really nauseous mostly the whole time. This time I didn't throw up at all. I was definitely nauseous, but not nearly to the extent that I was the other two times. And, yeah, that really saved me. And in fact, I still kind of take it because now I feel have, like, a little dependency on it.

[A]

Unisom is freaking awesome. That's actually what I took when I was struggling to sleep at night.

[B]

It helped you a lot.

[A]

Will just knock you out. And it's not. It's not like some crazy strong drug.

[B]

I only take half of it, too.

[A]

What is it that people will get prescribed if they have insomnia? Because there's, like, a really strong ambience. Sleep ambient. Yeah. Like, I. I didn't officially get diagnosed with insomnia, but I, like, 100 had it, and the Unison is what helped me get back on track with sleep, so. And I literally took. I actually took half a unisum last night to go to bed. Yeah, I love Unison. I love Unisum. Have you ever seen your placenta? Didn't they show us the placenta when you gave birth?

[B]

Not with Augie, I don't think. But with Griffin they did, maybe.

[A]

Yeah. Maybe with Auggie, didn't.

[B]

Our bird photographer took a picture of it, and I felt embarrassed when our family was swiping through pictures and they saw my placenta.

[A]

Ye. The placenta looks. It looks like. I mean, it's an organ. It's just. It's bloody and big.

[B]

My gosh. Get this.

[A]

Met what?

[B]

My friend is a labor and delivery nurse, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She delivered a baby yesterday.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

That. At 34 weeks, that was not in the uterus. It got implanted somewhere else and was just, like, basically just floating in her upper abdomen.

[A]

What?

[B]

The baby survived? The baby's in the nicu, but the baby's, like, going to be okay. And she said the placenta was so weird.

[A]

How does that happen?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

How did. Is that why she delivered at 34 weeks, to get the baby out?

[B]

Because I'm sure.

[A]

Did the baby, like, come out of the. Of the little.

[B]

The baby was not in any kind of. Like, it wasn't attached to anything. It's just floating.

[A]

It came out of the womb like, it. Like, it.

[B]

It wasn't in her womb. That's the thing.

[A]

Holy crap. Yes, Abby, that's insane.

[B]

It is insane. She said it was the craziest thing. They had to do C section, but, like, this, bro. They couldn't pull the baby from down here, bro. Yeah, the baby, like, her uterus. They didn't have to do any funnel checks. Which is when they check your uterus afterwards, because she was never. The baby was never in the uterus.

[A]

That's insane.

[B]

Isn't that crazy?

[A]

I don't understand that. I did hear about a baby that was born and the sack, like, they were born. They were born in the sack.

[B]

It's very rare, but it can happen.

[A]

And then I think I saw a vid. Wasn't this a video that you showed me? I want to say you showed me the video and they, like, popped the sack, and then the baby started crying. Crying. It's crazy because it was like, oh, I'm out of the womb now. It was just so quick. It was wild.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

Yeah. Thank goodness for our doctors, hospitals, and washing hands. Because, like, back in the day, they didn't know to wash their hands when they were dealing with cadavers and they would go deliver a baby and they had, like, germs on their hands, dude. They had, like. No, seriously. The hospitals at one point, this was in the 1800s, had higher rates of. Of, like, infant death or, like. Or the death of the mothers giving birth than at home births. Because in the hospitals, they were dealing with cadavers and all this infection. Yeah. They weren't washing their freaking hands. That's a reminder to wash your hands.

[B]

I kind of have to pee. I actually was just thinking about this. I love how many things you can do for me when I'm pregnant. Like, I mean, obviously you can only do so much, but you can do a lot of things. You can fill up my water. You can get me snacks. You can rub my feet. You can grab my back. You can get me, like, acetaminophen. You can give me a blanket. You can wake up with the kids.

[A]

I'm your personal assistant.

[B]

You can do all those things. What? You can't do that. I wish you could do get up and pee for me.

[A]

Go pee for you. Maybe you should just wear a catheter. You have a catheter in at all times. Have a little bag that you walk.

[B]

Around that seems like, why wouldn't I just wear a diaper?

[A]

You'll never have to go to the bathroom ever again. They'll just happen for you naturally.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

That's what's crazy. The people. The people that, like, poop in a bag, you know, like, where they. They had the surgery to. Where their poop just goes into a bag. That's wild to me. I can't under. I can't believe that we have the technology to. Where people just. They. They don't they don't go poop. It just goes into a little bag.

[B]

It's crazy.

[A]

Didn't you just get rid of all your maternity clothes?

[B]

Oh yeah, I did.

[A]

Why did you ever do that? Why? Yeah, why?

[B]

Oh, because that's kind of. That's how you should do it. That's. You should have this open handed spirit towards maternity and baby stuff. It just gets passed along you. So the clothes that I gave got passed to. Well, some of them.

[A]

Abigail or Addie.

[B]

Well, half of them I gave to like an aid to women's donation center.

[A]

I remember that now.

[B]

And then the other half that I held on to I actually ended up giving away still to a friend that was pregnant who then passed it on to my sister in law who's pregnant who I'm sure will pass it on to somebody else that's pregnant. Or maybe it'll come back to me as a woman.

[A]

That's what's been funny is like the entire time Addie was pregnant, I would do a double take. Like I feel like I've seen that outfit before and it was always your clothes.

[B]

Yeah, I mean that's how you should, you should pass maternity clothes on because you only need them for a short season but you kind of really need them for that season. For me, I never understood when people were like, I just size up. I'm like, how you, how'd you do that? Like I would need to. That wouldn't work for me.

[A]

The thing about Abby is you are so quick to get rid of things which I love.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

Our house doesn't have clutter.

[B]

I don't really have attachment to items. I'm just kind of like get it the freak out of here.

[A]

The only area that we have clutter right now is our garage which I'm going to handle stresses that stress me. When I build our shed, the kids.

[B]

Toy space underneath the stairs is also.

[A]

Extremely that we just shove them all in there. That's just because I get so sick of toys in our living room. So I just go pew. Put them in the little area.

[B]

You need to organize that. Honestly, we should make that like a fun little. I want to make it camp powered like a little clubhouse.

[A]

Camp powered Clubhouse? Yeah. They're going to wreck that camp so quickly.

[B]

Well that's fine. That's what it's for. But as long as it has a.

[A]

System, that's my thing is like you got to have a designated space where like toys can be out all the time and it can just be messy because you pick up all the toys for. Then the kids, just to pull them all out again. So I think having, like, maybe. Maybe we'll eventually have, like, a designated toy area in our home.

[B]

We do have that currently.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

The toy room.

[A]

Well, the toy room. It's not a room. Like, you can't shut the door.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

You know, it's just. It's. It's connected to the whole house.

[B]

You can shut the door.

[A]

I know. Could be.

[B]

There's so many toys in there, they can't even stand in there.

[A]

Okay, next question. Do your stretch marks hurt? And how hard is it to lose weight? Weight afterward? Your stretch marks don't hurt, right, babe?

[B]

Not right now.

[A]

But, like, they do when you're pregnant. Like, you can feel. You feel, like, them stretching and it actually hurts. Your skin?

[B]

Yes, my skin. When your skin is so tight it hurts.

[A]

Wait, that gives me, like, the heebie jeebies.

[B]

Yeah, that's why I had belly button pain.

[A]

That's awful for you. I hate that.

[B]

Yeah, my belly button hurt really bad both times.

[A]

Gosh. And you had a freaking hernia repeat.

[B]

Yeah, that's what hurts. Now is the. The mesh in my abdomen. It doesn't hurt. And sometimes it bothers me.

[A]

You feel the baby, like, pushing on the mesh sometimes. Okay, second question was, how did you lose the baby weight? Because you, like, it was insane how you went from. You dropped, what, like, £40 in a matter of a month or something? Like, how did you do that?

[B]

I mean, I didn't work out in that time because you can't work out for six weeks.

[A]

Isn't there. Don't people say breastfeeding can help? Do you think that was part of it there.

[B]

There's mixed reviews on that. Like, some people say breastfeeding can make you drop the weight really fast, and some people say that doesn't really. Like, breastfeeding can actually do the opposite and make you hang on to weight because your body needs fat for the milk.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I don't really know the actual science behind that or if there's any. Or if it can have both effects. You know, I think being young helps and staying active during your pregnancy helps.

[A]

The fact that you're under the age of 30, I think helps. I think you've told me that you've had friends over the age of 30 talk about how their pregnancies before 30 were so much easier than their pregnancies after 30. So is that, like, something that you. You basically want to only have kids before you're 30, right? Well, that's what you've. I think you said, I would love.

[B]

To have all my kids under 30. Yeah, it looks like we're on track for that probably. But then I don't. I think that being active during your pregnancy does also help you a lot. I would say. Yeah, if you're able to be. I know some people aren't, and that makes me sad. And I honestly am scared that I won't be able to because I think I've had the beginnings of sciatica pain, and I'm like, if this got severe, I. There's no way I could work out. And that scares me. Not because I'm like, it'll be hard to lose weight afterwards, but because working out is such a key part of my mental health. And mental health is extremely important to me, especially when pregnant. So hopefully that doesn't get worse.

[A]

This is really a really good question. Are you worried about postpartum depression?

[B]

Worried? I don't know about worried, but it is something that I would, like, definitely want to keep a close eye on, like, looking for. They do a lot of checks at, like, your newborn appointments. They do a lot of checkups on mom to make sure that her mental health is okay. But I'm totally. I told Matt literally on the drive here, like, if I feel like something is off, I'm totally down to, like, having interventions to fix that. Because your mental health is so important after having a baby.

[A]

Well, I really appreciate you saying that. I think there's so much maturity in saying you're opening, you're open to taking a pill or medicine for your mental health, because there's definitely a stigma behind that. And I've definitely. I've definitely felt that even on the ADHD side of, like, you know, for a while. I mean, really, the entire time that I've had Adderall, like, I've always tried to take that medicine very sparingly. But I kept seeing these clips pop up of Dr. Amen, who we had on our show, who would say, like, taking Adderall is, like a person that has vision trouble putting on their glasses. It just makes your life easier so that you can function better in this world. And so, like, really, this is super recent for me, but the past two days I took my Adderall, but not just one pill. I took two pills like I was told to by my doctor. They were like, take one in the morning and then take one in the afternoon, but before 2 o', clock, so it doesn't affect your sleep. And I've been so. I Feel like I've been very productive. And I feel really, like I feel so much better about myself. And it just kind of confirmed to me that that whole stigma of medicine and being afraid to take it. It when. When you need it is pretty stupid, you know? So I thought that was cool that you said you'd be willing to take something.

[B]

And here's the other thing, too, is that, like, that's when you get to a point where you have, like, a diagnosed thing that you need to prescribe medication. I want to do every step possible before we get to that point too. Just so I know, like, okay, like, this is actually something that.

[A]

But even why, though, like, if you. I hear what you're saying with. I hear. I hear what you're saying.

[B]

So, like, I'm saying, like, what. What we want to do, we've. We've laid all these things in place that we want to do differently in order to support the best healthy mental health that I can possibly have. Postpartum. And, yeah, I want to set myself up for success because I know that there's things that are within my control that should lead to, like, better results in my mental state. But if I do all those things and I'm still struggling, I'm super open to doing something about it.

[A]

Gotcha. Gotcha. That's cool.

[B]

Yeah. I've never had anything diagnosed postpartum, and I've always been honest on those tests, so I'll continue to be honest on those. And. And if something gets flagged, I'm really open to treatment.

[A]

That's good. I think that's really.

[B]

And I think the reason I have been open to treatment is because I have a lot of friends now that are very open about, like, oh, yeah, I ended up taking something postpartum, or I ended up doing, like, this postpartum because I was struggling. And I think that that conversation around it really just. It was such a gift to me because it's such a freedom. Like, if it comes to that, like, it just felt like it was like, okay, this is a freedom to me, like, that I can. I can also do something about it.

[A]

Where do you get maternity clothes? I think you've gotten a lot of clothes sent to you. I love Pink Blush. You're an influencer.

[B]

I love Pink Blush Maternity.

[A]

I thought their dresses that they sent you were really cute.

[B]

They have everything. They have really good stuff.

[A]

Gosh, they should sponsor this show. I wish this was a Pink Blush maternity ad.

[B]

They have great, great, like, cute, trendy things.

[A]

If you're watching this Pink blush. We like your dress. They're pretty cute.

[B]

I also got some maternity leggings this time from Vitality.

[A]

That's cute.

[B]

I'm excited to try those out.

[A]

Those haven't arrived yet, though, right?

[B]

Yeah, they have.

[A]

They're on the. Oh, they did arrive.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Have I seen you in those yet?

[B]

I haven't worn yet because my belly is not, like, quite big enough yet.

[A]

Oh, okay. So they're like. They're made to accommodate a bigger belly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Got it. Got it.

[B]

I feel like I've even gotten stuff just, like, from Target.

[A]

This one's kind of funny. It says, do the boys understand? I would say yes and no.

[B]

Oggy doesn't. Oggy thinks the baby's in my boobs.

[A]

He keeps. He goes, baby, and then he'll, like, point your boobs, which I don't know why he thought they. Why the baby's there. I don't get it. The other day, though, Griffin referred to your boobs as peacocks, which then at the same time, I'm like, where are kids getting these terms from?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I don't know what it is. We're gonna have to really explain things to them.

[B]

And then we told our friends that story, and he, like, acted like we had no idea what we were talking about. I was like, dude, don't make us look like a fool like that.

[A]

Are you sure he was calling your boobs? You were there, but no, you told me right after the fact. You're like, griffin just said, nice peacocks.

[B]

Mom, I thought you were there. No, he certainly. He said it twice.

[A]

And he pointed right to your face.

[B]

He said, those are your peacocks. What?

[A]

Kids. Kids are so funny. Yeah. Oh, no. What happened? Do you spill. Spill some soda on yourself. How has it been? Pregnant in the Arizona summer heat?

[B]

This isn't bad, because I'm not big, but I've been big pregnant in the Arizona summer heat twice. And I told Matt, I will not do that again. So this baby is coming in February.

[A]

That's actually why we had the baby in June.

[B]

No, that's why we made the baby.

[A]

That's why we made the baby in June, because the baby's gonna come during peak weather season in Arizona, and we'll get to be out doing walks. We'll get to go. We can go to the park with.

[B]

The baby, take the baby outside so they won't be jaundiced like our other two.

[A]

And while you guys are all freaking getting snowed on in the Midwest, we will be outside chilling Outside, we'll be chilling.

[B]

They might have a glass of wine.

[A]

It might be sweater weather, too. So we could probably not cozy in our sweaters and just, like, chilling and hanging out.

[B]

Then it won't be, like, excruciating to baby wear. Also, I feel like we've learned from our past mistakes, that is not mistakes, but we could definitely do yourself favors in the timing of your pregnancy in Arizona.

[A]

Oh, yeah. I think this is a good one. I feel guilty taking a nap or being lazy. How do you overcome this?

[B]

I feel guilty for taking a nap and being lazy.

[A]

I don't understand why you feel that way. Because in my book, anytime you want to take a nap when you're pregnant, you should take a nap. You should. You should relax. You should take the day off. You could just wear PJs all the time and wear no makeup and just chill out.

[B]

A lot of moms can't do that. Like, a lot of, like, their husbands work out of the house. And so then I'm like, man, if they're still grinding, I gotta still grind.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know. I feel like anytime when it comes to naps, though, you're so nice about it. I want you to take naps. Like, I want you to rest, because if I'm tired, I hate being tired. But I guess with you, though, you kind of had the choice of, like, nausea or being tired, and you chose being tired because you were taking the unison. Right. And being tired felt better than being nauseous.

[B]

Yeah. No, I don't think that. I think I also, like, I don't want my kids to, like, lose their mom for a month or two because we're getting another sibling. I don't know. I also didn't feel that bad. If I felt, like, really, really, really sick, then I would take a nap, but I didn't feel that bad, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do you have a preference on gender?

[A]

Do I have a preference? I really don't. Every. I would be so excited either way.

[B]

I'm glad that we don't get to choose.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I wouldn't want the burden of that choice.

[A]

Are we gonna do a similar gender reveal to what we did in the past? Because I think we're gonna have the.

[B]

I want to find out with our family and friends.

[A]

You do?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Why do I want to find out before everybody else?

[B]

Oh, you want to find out before?

[A]

Yes. Maybe I could just know and then you find out at the gender reveal.

[B]

Yeah, you tell me. That'd be fun. At the gender reveal, we have two like, pink flowers and blue flowers. And then you, like, everyone can watch me turn around and you're handing me the blue or the pink flowers.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that could be cool. Or. Yeah, or I could. Yeah, something like that. I don't know.

[B]

How do you want to do it?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

You could make everyone take one bite of a cupcake and it's filled with pink or blue.

[A]

That could be fun. What if we do something that's completely unique? We've already done. We've already done this twice. Should we, like, make it. It make it more fun?

[B]

I think that's where people find themselves in some crazy. Some weird situations.

[A]

Oh, gosh. Yeah.

[B]

What do you want to do?

[A]

Do I have to decide right now?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

We gotta have a party. Let's throw a party. Let's have fun. It's an. It's a. It's an excuse to celebrate.

[B]

Okay, okay, let's throw a party. But you want to find out before the party.

[A]

What if we dye our pool?

[B]

Your parents are coming. We're finding out the gender. On a Monday.

[A]

Wait, should we dye the pool the color of the baby? If it's pink, we could have a pink pool.

[B]

I don't think it's going to die.

[A]

We probably all get, like. Like sick or something. I don't know.

[B]

Matt, don't. Don't think outside the box. Think what box?

[A]

What if I put. What if I get shot with a paintball gun and I'm sure I'm shirtless and then. And then I'm like, I've got the color of the baby on my chest? That would totally be a video that people would parody on the Internet. Like, you know, the people that make parody videos. That's so weird. But I think that'd be kind of funny. I don't know.

[B]

We'll think this over more inside the box.

[A]

Maybe just a cake. Should we just do a cake? That's so basic.

[B]

Just do the basic thing. Not. We're not.

[A]

Yeah. The people. YouTube couple that did drones. They did freaking drones in the sky.

[B]

That spelled out incredible for them.

[A]

I was like, that is insane.

[B]

Like, how much did they know where you get drones? So I don't think we're gonna be able to.

[A]

They have the same technology that they used at the super bowl to put an LED screen in the sky made out of drones. I don't understand.

[B]

I love that.

[A]

Okay, but here's the question everyone's been asking, which we're going to end on. What is the due date?

[B]

The due date is February 28th. Technically, I think the date should probably be the 29th.

[A]

Yes. Wait, what? The 29th? What do you mean, the 29th?

[B]

Because I remember I kind of read my period app wrong.

[A]

I'm so confused. I thought. I thought the doctor went off of the size of the baby, right? So then they gave us the due date of every. Like, they looked at the ultrasound?

[B]

No, they said that they pretty much aligned. Then they were like, we'll just make that the due date.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah, it's very uninformed, normal.

[A]

Are you sure? Do you know that there is no February 29th? Right? Like, that's not a date.

[B]

You're kidding.

[A]

Yes. It's the last day of February is the 28th.

[B]

So then maybe the due date should be. I said, that's the doc.

[A]

Unless it's a leap year. So on a leap year, then it goes longer.

[B]

So is next year a leap year? It's not a leap year.

[A]

Okay, but the 29th is. People that are born on a leap year, they're born on the 29th because then they add an extra day because technically there's 365 0.25 days in a year. Ish.

[B]

Okay, so technically, the due date is the. February is February 28th. Yeah, we're holding that loosely.

[A]

Wouldn't that mean that the baby's gonna come the 21st?

[B]

Some around there. I don't think they do it like, exactly on the date that you're 39 weeks, but somewhere around there.

[A]

Okay, yeah.

[B]

The week before is when the baby will actually come, but the due date is the 28th.

[A]

Yep. Very exciting.

[B]

Some people keep that a secret. I don't really know.

[A]

Yeah. Why do you. I don't know why people keep that a secret.

[B]

They probably have good reasons.

[A]

And, yeah, I don't know.

[B]

Mine is not a secret.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

So anyone that is due day buddies with me, comment down below.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And we can go through this thing together.

[A]

That's so much fun.

[B]

The last thing I want is to be pregnant alone. It's not fun to be pregnant alone. It's way more fun to be pregnant with other people.

[A]

Yeah. Well, you guys, thank you so much for being here. If you haven't already subscribed or liked this podcast or left us a review, we would really appreciate that. But if you don't want to do that, we're not going to make you, because that would be really toxic of us to do that. Toxic is overused. That would be.

[B]

We know you're busy, so only if you have the time or the opportunity.

[A]

Only if you have about 30 seconds extra in your schedule today, which sometimes.

[B]

It'S hard to come by. I'll be honest.

[A]

Yeah, you're probably really busy.

[B]

You probably like to do a lot of other things. You probably spent time. So if you choose to spend it doing it that thing. Yes, then we are grateful.

[A]

We'll see you in the next episode. Please comment down below. Any ideas, any guests that you guys want us to have on to interview.

[B]

Baby name ideas.

[A]

Baby name ideas. Let us know we have some time to. This was fun. We'll see you guys in the next episode.

[B]

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And young Mason Moore got more done quickly uploading HD product demos and video conferencing without FreeSync. The numbers look good. Brad, you're on mute. Switch from cable Internet to ziply Fiber and get more of what you love for $65 less per month than [e-mail].